Why I Sold My Canon C300III - What Did I Buy Instead?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024

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  • @damiencooper
    @damiencooper  Год назад +6

    What would you miss making the switch?

    • @tbcmediaca
      @tbcmediaca Год назад

      Absolutely!

    • @jayforcinema
      @jayforcinema Год назад +1

      I was actually looking at the R5C but the C70 makes a lot of sense. I don't have a C300 III but I would prefer to own the less expensive camera, and rent the C300 for the projects where I need the bonus features of the C300 over the C70. In fairness though, I do have the Lumix S1 and now getting the Lumix S5 IIX, which works better for my style of shooting than the Canon C70 (although I really wish I could get internal RAW) :)

    • @lb7144
      @lb7144 Год назад +2

      I currently have a Canon C100 MKII and if I was going to upgraded, it would be the C-70. I don’t have that “long money 😂” so my broke self will stick to what I have for now.
      Thanks for the awesome content! We learn so much from your channel. I know I do!

    • @jayforcinema
      @jayforcinema Год назад +1

      ​@@lb7144 Maybe look at the original Lumix S line (S1, S5) if continuous autofocus isn't too important. It will give you a crispy 4K 10 Bit upgrade without breaking the bank

    • @jmasked5082
      @jmasked5082 Год назад +1

      SDI

  • @alexschwindt2124
    @alexschwindt2124 Год назад +28

    True story. I've used everything out there and the C70 is my favorite workhorse camera I've ever owned. I told a rep from Canon that if the C70 had an SDI output they'd never sell another C300III ever again, and he actually agreed completely.

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +5

      Now we just need a full frame version with anamorphic support :D THEN that would be the dream camera :D

    • @JasKenMoore
      @JasKenMoore Год назад +1

      ​@@damiencooper Hi Damien, Did you use Sigma Cinema lenses or Sigma art/photo lens

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +1

      @@JasKenMoore both

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot Год назад +3

      @@damiencooper if they put the R5C - in a C70…wow

    • @frankfeng2701
      @frankfeng2701 Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot R6ii in a C70. Call it R6c or C60.

  • @my2cents198
    @my2cents198 10 месяцев назад +4

    I think the most important feature camera manufacturers are over looking is an EFV ...This is soooo under rated these days , and very limited 3rd party options... an EFV is such a needed thing , changes the way you shoot...too many people really just on the monitor. Rodger Deakins said in an interview, forgot the monitor, go to the EVF

  • @kevinevans651
    @kevinevans651 Год назад +3

    Yes... have to agree with you - I was a C300 mkii shooter and hired the mkiii. Great cameras for my work but the last few years it more run and gun and I needed a more lightweight kit - the EF mount also is on its way out and the RF is the new tech. I have 2 x C70's and an R5c. The C70 is now my workhorse

  • @camcamwatt
    @camcamwatt Год назад +7

    Love your videos - great points. I own a C300 mkiii and often match it up to a friends Arri Alexa Mini LF with minor grading they match up beautifully.
    Like someone else mentions when you’re landing larger budget projects like we do - $50,000 + the clients really so appreciate seeing the larger camera and they feel like they are getting value.
    When you rip out a smaller camera the question marks start flying why they just paid so much money. Perception equals reality
    Content creators the C70 is an amazing option. But for higher end corporate work and more advanced Filmmaking - I feel the C300 mkiii is the better camera. And the non crop super 35 4k 120 with the new firmware update is a great feature that makes the C300 mkiii an excellent value camera in my opinion. :) greeting from Sydney Australia

    • @DanielHewson
      @DanielHewson Год назад

      what do you mean "non crop super 35"---do you mean there is no crop factor on the c300 mk iii?

  • @ProbstfeldCreative
    @ProbstfeldCreative Год назад +3

    I love my C300mkiii. I have 2 of them. About to head to Bangladesh to film a doc. :)

  • @ProSmithMedia
    @ProSmithMedia Год назад +4

    But Canon did give a firmware update for the C300 mkiii to add face detection and tracking for S&F shooting up to 120 FPS. That was added back in Late October.

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +1

      Oh word? That’s when I had already sold mine. Did they add the whole are option too?

    • @ProSmithMedia
      @ProSmithMedia Год назад +1

      @@damiencooper I’m not sure on that. There is nothing that specifically says “whole area” but it does have the Dual Pixel AF capability for frame rates up to 120 as well as face detection. I currently have the C70 and will be adding the C300 mk iii. For what I do the C300 adds a few more values that I am looking forward to. I have recently stumbled upon your channel and appreciate your feedback on everything.

  • @otayuki2369
    @otayuki2369 Год назад +7

    I use C300 mark3 and c70. Certainly the C70 has eye AF and is better than the c300. But the reason I use the C300 is because it can shoot 120P in RAW. I am a fan of Japan. I always look forward to your great videos. Thank you.

    • @ProSmithMedia
      @ProSmithMedia Год назад +1

      Get the new firmware update for the c300. It adds face detection.

    • @otayuki2369
      @otayuki2369 Год назад

      @@ProSmithMedia Face detection has been added, but not eye AF. I am hoping that eye AF will be added as well.

  • @withoutanoffice4914
    @withoutanoffice4914 Год назад +4

    I love watching your videos, and your honesty about your short pause in making videos. Now, as far as my production shooting goes, I spent the last two and a half decades of my career shooting for CNN. I retired and enjoyed doing production shoots, but also traveled more than I cared for. Anyways, now I only want to shoot productions, mainly nicely lit sitdown interviews. I also do Liveshots occasionally from Capital Hill as well as large events. CNN used to use the C300mkii a while back for most of their docs and high profile interviews. They later had made a deal with sony so we ended up switching from the C300mkii to the Sony FS7, the FX9 for interiviews. I personally liked the look of the Canon cameras WAY better, so at first was going to buy a C300mkii. After seeing the improvements to the C300mkiii, I changed my mind and spent the extra money on it. I love it and its been worth every penny. I've used other cameras as a bcam to roll along side it for Wide shots, and gimbal/slider work such as the ZCam E2-M4, the Canon R5, even the Canon XF605. But recently, I decided to sell the zcam and the R5 and buy the Canon C70 which is due the end of this week. I already bought adapters from the mini xlr to xlr for my audio. I also have some HDMI to SDI converters that I used for my R5 if I ever wanted it to roll as a live wide shot at an event. I will see if the C70 works well this way, and if it does... it's very possible that I will follow the same path as you. I have the Canon CN-E 18-80mm Cine lense with the variable zoom attachment on my C300 most of the time. Ive used it for news pressers and shooting, live events as well as interviews. If this lens would work with the Canon EF adapter/speed booster on the C70, it would really be awesome because it would give me an extra stop on the 18-80's T4.4 lens and a wider view. The along with the C70 I bought a new RF 70-200 f/2.8 lens to give me the longer throw when needed and thought it would be a beneficial lens to have for my first RF lens. Anyway, IF I keep the C300mkii, it would mostly be to keep the 3 SDI ports and I do like having full size XLR's, though I understand they take up too much room on the smaller body of a C70. For my use, I wish they could allow you to switch between Timecode and SDI on the C70 the same as they switch from Timecode in to timecode out. That way if you want to use it to jam sync 2 cameras timecodes you can do that and then switch the port to SDI to go live while recording if needed. I'm not an engineer, so I'm not even sure if that is possible. If I personally had a choice, for me, I would rather they make the Timecode BNC port an SDI port. Todays editing software make it so easy to sync, I've only needed to sync timecodes at one event. Keep the videos coming! I know its time consuming to make them, but you do a great job and I really enjoy watching them.

    • @viperstudio
      @viperstudio Год назад

      Hi, did you get your hands on C70? I'm curious if the Canon CN-E 18-80mm Cine works fine with the adapter/speed booster on the C70. How the AF works? I have C200 and this lens and I'm thinking of switching to C70. Thanx!

    • @withoutanoffice4914
      @withoutanoffice4914 Год назад

      After 3+ weeks with the C70, I decided to KEEP my C300mkiii for the reasons you stated. Both cameras are excellent but have their own benefits. Keeping one of each gives me the ability to have both for when I need them.

    • @TezaurFolcloric
      @TezaurFolcloric Год назад

      @@withoutanoffice4914 Thanx, but does Canon CN-E 18-80mm autofocus works with C70?

    • @withoutanoffice4914
      @withoutanoffice4914 Год назад

      @@viperstudio I don't have a speed adapter but I have a Meike metal mount adapter and it works perfectly. No issues what so ever. It was the very first thing I tested out. LOL

    • @withoutanoffice4914
      @withoutanoffice4914 Год назад

      @@TezaurFolcloric Yes. It works perfect.

  • @Mantafilm
    @Mantafilm Год назад +3

    Since you asked, No I wouldn't sell my C300 Mark lll for a C70. I don't live in a big city. Out of town companies call us and always ask "what camera do you have?" If I did strictly local work I might consider it, also I use both the monitor and SDI out. I might add a C70 though for a 2nd camera. I do like your videos though.

  • @flokke1984
    @flokke1984 Год назад +1

    C3000iii also has „whole area“-AF with tracking. Only reachable through function button. 😛

  • @alvinburrell
    @alvinburrell Год назад +3

    I agree but what about timecode - I think the C300II has a full implementation which would be great for multi-cam shooting. It seems to me that Canon are holding off upgrades to the C300II, maybe because the EF mount is almost a legacy interface to them.

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +4

      The C70 has full timecode support. I use it all the time for multi camera shoots. Even the R5C has timecode.
      And you might be right about the EF mount

  • @movit4000
    @movit4000 Год назад +2

    I have the C200 and love it, I am tempted to upgrade it for the C70, just wonder if the clients would be turned down by the more DLSR-like form factor. Any rumors about the C300IV?

  • @mikewinburn
    @mikewinburn Год назад +1

    1. Your Canon C70 vid cards didn’t show at the end, even though you pointed to them…and something was moving around over there, just looked like it was blocked from view.
    2. With you having been a user of both and opting for your work, helps me solidify my choice. I’ve been pondering a C70 for awhile, but felt i might be misusing the money, when i could save and get a C300. Your rundown was super helpful.
    3. Not sure why RUclips wasn’t flagging me for your new vids, but this is like the first one I’ve seen in a couple months….

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +1

      Oh damn. Forgot to put them. Will fix this.
      Well, I haven’t uploaded in a long time 🫣
      But this is about to change a lot!

  • @hoondog100
    @hoondog100 Год назад +8

    C300 shooter here- Love the vid, agree with everything. Minor feature things aside, There's only one unfortunate reason I can personally justify staying off the C70. There's a certain tier of client that is more likely to book you with a more expensive camera package. Corporate clients don't necessarily understand the intricacies of visual quality, but when they see a $ XX,XXX camera package they will bite. And certain doc companies always make you rent out FS7s or canon C series no matter what. I realize this affects probably a tiny fraction of people that watch this channel. But to land the big fish sometimes it helps to have a big package 😉- But you will know when you're at this level. If you have to ask, listen to Damien and buy the C70. I would say in general, folks purchase cameras beyond their needs and abilities.

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +7

      I actually agree. I had directors request a C300III+. I showed up with a rigged out C70 anyway :D And corporate clients can't tell a rigged up C70 from a C300III. to be fair, my V-mount C70 rig is hardly smaller than my C300III was anyway.

    • @hoondog100
      @hoondog100 Год назад

      @@damiencooperohhh that's smart🙌

  • @digitale1354
    @digitale1354 Год назад +3

    The best caméra was the Canon C200 but Canon don't release a new firmware. They don't respect us, Sony and Panasonic are more serious with their customer

  • @tbcmediaca
    @tbcmediaca Год назад +1

    Would definitely make that switch. Still using my C100 MKII and R6 as a pair. This year will definitely moving to at least one c70. Mobility and compact are big these days when everything needs to be done yesterday.

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +1

      oh yeah. The C70 is perfect for that

    • @christhompsonphotography6783
      @christhompsonphotography6783 Год назад

      I miss the ergonomics and handle record button of the c100 for hand held. But the c70 codec options and detail are nice.

  • @TylerEdwards
    @TylerEdwards Год назад +5

    The C70 is such an amazing camera! Great video dude!

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад

      Thanks Tyler, appreciate the comment!

  • @Chandler_Goodrich
    @Chandler_Goodrich Год назад +1

    I am considering the c70 for a first cinema camera for my directing work. Do you find it to be pretty versatile?

  • @CringePanda
    @CringePanda 3 месяца назад

    This video threw a bucket of ice cold water on my plans to buy a C300 Mark III. I'm not sold on the C70 tho. Now I'm between the FX6 or waiting for the C400.

    • @HGQjazz
      @HGQjazz 2 месяца назад +1

      C80

    • @CringePanda
      @CringePanda 2 месяца назад

      @@HGQjazz Yep, that's what I decided. I'll just wait for December.

  • @quiztasiarocks
    @quiztasiarocks Год назад

    I wonder how the C200 mk ii will compare?

  • @bikergeekgd
    @bikergeekgd Год назад +1

    In addition to the C70, did you also consider the Red Komodo?

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +1

      Not really. Every time I think about it I come to the conclusion that the C70 is a far superior camera in everything but the raw codec.

    • @BenEricson
      @BenEricson Год назад +2

      @@damiencooper I own both and IMO even in ProRes, the pure image quality / skin tone from the Komodo is definitely better. It just creates a look that is a few notches up. More color separation and just a warmer nice pallet. The image feels thicker. The Global Shutter is also killer for handheld.
      That being said, the NDs, Battery Life, Long GOP, XLR, 120fps, Dual Record, and Auto Focus make the C70 such a great little camera.

  • @CedrianX
    @CedrianX Год назад

    Man the colors these cameras push out are just 🤌🏾

  • @riotrob
    @riotrob Год назад

    so are you going to rebuy the rf70-200? will Belle still use the ef for sports?

  • @bill29456
    @bill29456 Год назад

    Do you find that you need to do post sharping with the footage of the C70?

  • @SteadyRolling
    @SteadyRolling Год назад

    I have a C70 with the Canon speed booster. I use the Schneider Xenon prime lenses, but I was thinking of getting a 24-105mm f/4 zoom to use once in a while. The EF version would be plug-and-play, so to speak, but the RF version is reported to have better image quality. Unfortunately, to use it, I would have to remove the speed booster, which is a little bit of a hassle, and there is also the crop factor of using a full frame lens with a Super 35 sensor.
    Do you have any suggestions about this dilemma?

    • @Samiam-mu5ln
      @Samiam-mu5ln 10 месяцев назад

      Get Canons RF to EF adapter, just the straight adapter and that would now allow you to mount the canon rf focal reducer as well. Keep in mind that your lens will have to travel through 2 adapters now and may have issues with auto focus BUT if they are both Canon branded adapters, this may be less of a problem (theoretically)

  • @simontaylor8990
    @simontaylor8990 6 месяцев назад

    Hi - do they both correct anamorphic ?

  • @caseybachmeyer
    @caseybachmeyer Год назад

    Great Video, thanks a lot! if you compare nowadays the c70 af with the r5c autofocus..would you still say the r5c has still a better af?

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +5

      interestingly enough, I did the other day and the C70 was the clear winner. The R5C was way slower and sometimes borderline unusable. I might put out an entire video about that because I was really surprised by my findings

    • @caseybachmeyer
      @caseybachmeyer Год назад +1

      @@damiencooper shi...i cant believe this...i decided now to go for the r5c because of weight and size and af...the nd filter and xlrs-audio-story i dont need...what i need is dr...picture quality..but no heavy bricks

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад +1

      @@caseybachmeyer I was really thinking of going R5C just for the full frame RF mount. But no matter how many times I tried I went back to the C70. The AF situation was the nail in the coffin. I borrowed the R5C to my ex for a project in switzerland and the AF just didn't work for what she was doing...

    • @caseybachmeyer
      @caseybachmeyer Год назад +1

      @@damiencooper at the end you need all...r5, r5c, c70...they know what they do

    • @caseybachmeyer
      @caseybachmeyer Год назад

      @@damiencooper maybe i will buy a sony a7iv with a lens instead...lightweight, good af, good dr...

  • @BrianMakesFilms
    @BrianMakesFilms Год назад +2

    While I'm a Sony guy, I literally made a similar move from the FX9 to the FX3. Not quite apples to apples, but the FX3 just works a lot better and is easier to work with than the FX9, so to answer your question, if I'd had the C300 M3, I'd definitely have traded it out for the C70.

    • @sa.t.2507
      @sa.t.2507 5 месяцев назад

      Dude that’s one brave move you made there!😂 I’m a FX9 owner who’s thinking on going to the C400 instead. The lack of slow mo in FF really annoys me, and the size and weight isn’t fun at all.

  • @ganapati6672
    @ganapati6672 Год назад

    Did you already break the flip out monitor at c70?

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад

      No, works perfectly but I mainly use an external monitor. If I were to use the internal one only I would‘ve probably broken it already

    • @ericgichangamwatha2065
      @ericgichangamwatha2065 Год назад

      😂

  • @markjob6354
    @markjob6354 9 месяцев назад +1

    In all honesty, I think you made a poor decision. The C70 is also a good camera, but it is no where near the level of the C300 MK III. You could justify getting rid of it by pointing out it's overkill for what you do on a weekly basis, but this is now, and what may come later on ? The C300 MK III can handle all levels of production thrown at it, while the C70 clearly is not a digital Cinema level camera, and it's really a task specific camera, while the C300 MK III is the next step up from a C70 for sure.

    • @CringePanda
      @CringePanda 3 месяца назад

      I'm buying the C300 Mark 3 because I don't want to buy another camera for the next 10 years. It would be insane not to take advantage of the huge price drop.

  • @DuffTV
    @DuffTV Год назад

    Thanks for the great video. Nice work

  • @cristianmihai4818
    @cristianmihai4818 Год назад

    Is that Bucharest footage?

  • @EmeraldAudiovisual
    @EmeraldAudiovisual Год назад

    You did forget the cards at the end :)

  • @elgandahc
    @elgandahc Год назад

    Thanks for the great video. I’m only semi-pro, but I’m amazed that the C70 allows shooting RAW internally when it only has an SD card slot. Doesn’t that take up huge storage space and cause overheating? I only have an R5 and have to use an external recorder to record RAW, at least as far as I’m aware. Even using a CFexpress card I can’t record RAW internally.

  • @ItzSi
    @ItzSi Год назад

    and I just got a c100 mk ii lol☺

  • @Faaabiaaan2punkt0
    @Faaabiaaan2punkt0 Год назад

    Viewfinder ist ja für mich ein Totschlagargument.

    • @damiencooper
      @damiencooper  Год назад

      Eins der ersten Argumente das wirklich Sinn macht! Ich persönlich hasse Viewfinder. Für mich also egal ;)

    • @Faaabiaaan2punkt0
      @Faaabiaaan2punkt0 Год назад

      @@damiencooper Mach EB, da muss man vorbereitet sei.

  • @LonzosStudios
    @LonzosStudios Год назад +2

    I'm a C500 Mark II owner but I would have kept the C300 and bought 1 C70 for my B cam....you named a whole bunch of advantages of the C300 then went and bought not one but 2 of the inferior camera LOL

    • @RockyMaiviaMiami
      @RockyMaiviaMiami Год назад +5

      He only needed one reason… the thousands and thousands dollars of savings especially if the sensor is the same and especially getting access to the RF mount .

    • @DESIGNS-vo1mt
      @DESIGNS-vo1mt Год назад +2

      I wish I mattered enough to tell someone what to do their money!

  • @Yupthereitism
    @Yupthereitism Год назад +1

    Sony is just much superior at this point.

  • @monobomodular6413
    @monobomodular6413 Год назад

    noooo fx6 is better

  • @hereweare9011
    @hereweare9011 Год назад +6

    Canon is a dumpster fire.