me too, but there is a benefit if your constructors are crap. well built beds get a high score on their own, but bad ones need end tables to reach the same scores. is useful if you overflow hospital beds and pawns are resting in their own beds because comfort then applies.
@Nike 5 Mega I never use stone on beds cause it gives less rest effectiveness at most it would be jade(very late game like 22mil wealth) since that doesnt reduce rest effectiveness also circadian half cycler are amazing on crafters and researchers even if its a -15% conscience they are not only giving up a free bedroom but over all a lvl 20 crafter w/0 circadian half cycler cant craft as fast as a lvl15 crafter w/ circadian half cycler since they have to sleep with is basically 8 hours of work missed (I tested this by cloning a colonist and seeing who can craft faster on a day) also if ur really willing give that crafter luciferium and it would only be a -5% conscience with the benefit of that very neat manipulation bonus
I end up doing a lot of rock smoothing even though it's not worth the effort. I like to think my pawns have a taste for mountainside fortresses, and they are committed enough to the theme to put in the extra effort. Also, don't for get to build a layer of granite walls around your marble walls for double walled temperature insulation and maximum battle readiness.
A info nugget to endtable and dressers: in your hospital their usefullness exells. The reason is because your injured pawns lay awake in bed when they recover from their wounds! Thus a higher comfort might be the nicer thing to cancel out negative moodlets like intens pain, etc.
sure but that sounds like it would mess with my tiny sized 8 beds around a single monitor. Maybe I could have a treatment place and a recovery place but I have never done that.
@@basildaoust2821 i know old ass post, but when i do the 8 beds to a monitor, i put end tables in the inner corners, so some beds get the bonus. If i remeber it right.
@@jerryandersson4873 Interesting, it funny I watch other videos that suggested you never build an end table to dresser because they consume too much bedroom space, which I suppose isn't relevant in a hospital. Having said all that I just love the medipod, though you do have to stay alive until you have the researched and resources to build it and maybe a few beds just in case several people all need the hospital now but it is amazing last time I played.
@@basildaoust2821 For the beds around a monitor method, I've seen people who arrange the beds in such a way that there are 2 beds facing each direction around the monitor, and then add end tables in the corner spaces between the beds (to make the entire bed/monitor/end table setup a square) and then all of the beds get a boost from the end tables
Ah, the three stages of any game: Stage 1: Clueless Stage 2: Focus on numbers Stage 3: Stop caring about your stupid characters and design something that looks cool to you
@@ShepardCommander Decorative plants typicaly only need 30% so a torch small lamp or camp fire is enough - which is good to have anyway for heat or light
@@RFC-3514 But it's also training for plants skill, and a dedicated 18+ plants master with specialized arms and bionic legs can basically plant flowers over your entire base in a day or so.
@@danielfarfudinov3193 - The issue isn't the time it takes to _plant_ them, it's the time it takes to _walk_ between locations (especially if they interrupt the job to go eat or do something else, and have to walk back two or three times to finish each location - and with flowers it's never really "finished"). That's always the main problem as bases grow in Rimworld: time wasted walking between jobs.
End tables and dresser are effective in a hospital. Being Luxuriously Comfortable is a great way to counter the various pain debuffs for pawns on bed rest.
Excellent quality wooden bed gets you over the 0.9 comfort therehold so you don't need the end table nor the dresser as long as you have a decent builder you can just build and deconstruct until you get the right quality for all your needs. Wood is easily accessible in most biomes so wasted resources don't matter. The dresser bonus is good for roleplay if your bedroom design can afford losing couple tiles of space or if you really want that comfort early on, but as long as it's over the 0.9 it will give you the +10 max bonus for the whole time a pawn lays in it. At the end of the day it's just a +1/-1 mood difference which isn't nearly as much as other things so feel free to build them the way you want.
Early game when you have a single room, a good trick I like to use is to cover the floor in daylilies (plant zone, not in pots). This does a few things, first it adds a lot of beauty without taking up space which means with the large room and the high beauty it's often an impressive or very impressive barracks. The next is, since the floor is dirt, pawns don't track dirt on to it, so you don't have to clean. Next is it trains up growing for new pawns, so they don't fail so much in early harvests. Next, if you also put dining furniture in it, pawns will eat there and you'll have a very impressive dining room moodlet. There's obvious downsides, interrupted sleep, wasted time replanting, etc. So they do eventually transition into rooms, but you can go for quite a while on a multipurpose room with a floor filled with daylilies.
I love these little tutorial nuggets. Ive got just over 3500 hours in rimworld since I started playing in the A14 days, and even then I still find myself learning new little mechanics watching these videos.
Getting them maxed on comfort while sleeping dose help, if you max comfort they have bigger pool of comfort to drop down from, and at the very least it helps to prevent them from geting debufs from to low comfort. Not to mention they are quite cheap and add a tiny beat of beauty themself, enough to mostly offsett lose of space, at least in earlygame rooms.
By 13:00 to 14:00 the comfort buff is gone, the extra comfort you gain from end tables buys you about 1.5 hours more buff. Which is not nothing, it's just not enough to motivate me to install them.
it could help to go from awful to dull, but at this point you can just floor the bedroom, confort, like beauty e space need, go up really fast and go down very slow, so you don't need that extra confort, is better if you spend that wood to try to make a better chair for when they eat. P.S. don't use the confy chair, excellent wooden chair are way better, they ave the same amount of confort, but better beuty e less value (most of the case)
@@raismin739 Pawns normaly dont spend that much time eating, you can even see here ruclips.net/video/ybHLtGwWEF8/видео.html comfor from eating that meal went up only like 10 %
@@SaneTrinity it was just a normal chair, if you put an excellent one, you get a much hight boost that will keep your morale for 1-2 hour more, enought if they go to meditate to the tree
@@raismin739 plz get your facts straight before spouting nonsense, how fast you gain comfort is not based on furniture comfort stat, it only affects max amount of comfort you can get when using it. and you dont use dining chairs long enough to matter much. shure its still usefull, but way less cost efective than bed.
I'd say adding lights is a very good idea early game, and leaving them in(and off) is still good late game. Early game players generally don't have a dedicated hospital, and if you do have one bed, what happens when several pawns get sick/injured? The penalty from treating in darkness could be the make/break point for saving someone. It also makes it just a bit easier to convert bedrooms into prison cells in an emergency. As a side note you have had enemies drop pod directly onto your hospital, who can say when that will happen to everyone else right when it's most inconvenient. Standard lights are only 10 steel, if you put in one unconnected conduit so you don't have to have pawns turn them on and off that still only 11 steel. Not a huge investment for a measurable increase in tend quality. Now late game this is much less important, as you likely have a couple of high grade medics, and a dedicated hospital. But it will still hurt you if you're ever unprepared, because it's Rimworld.
I agree, put in the light. I usually stick in a table, chair and light when it's for prisoners. I also spread out the cells so that their are no mass prison breaks.
Personally think that first room is a bit misleading. Having good art and +1 walls makes a big difference at that level. Plus at that level having good marble statues laying around isn't exactly common. Prioritizing art skills usually comes after other essentials on most difficulties. Again, referencing early game, when you would just have dirt and or wood floors.
I always enjoy these tutorial videos. How i found this channel actually. A few notes though: The buff from the dresser and endtable coupled with a royal bed (which also improves rest effectiveness) means you start with a +10 to mood for a couple of hours, at which point you then progress through your normal comfort bonuses. Its basically equivalent to half a beer every day that 1) stacks with actual beer 2) has no side effects 3) is really cheap to implement and 4) costs nothing to maintain. They also improve room impressiveness early game again for basically nothing The requirements for titles should also be mentioned. You need 30 tiles for the highest titles, merging 2 of the fullsized bedrooms gives you 42, which is enough, but as the highest requires ALL fine flooring not just 30 tiles of it, that's an extra 240 stone blocks. On the ones with the middle dining room, you only have 35 tiles which is a lot more managable.
Well done. I didn't know that dressers and end tables are useless. Will probably still use them for RPing, but should I want a no nonsense playthrough, I will follow your advice.
You forgot to mention the barracks though it's there... Another thing to add maybe the bedroom requirement of entitled pawn that need minimum 30 spaces, all fine floored, min 80 impressiveness, a drapes, royal bed, dresser and end table for max title. Mostly for entitled guest from empire's quest and your own entitled pawn. That's why i usually set my room by 7 X 5 to fulfill those requirements. Eat more spaces, but anything for my pawns
I have been avoiding dealing with the royals, Ireland has a bad history with them. I prefer to shoot them first and then a couple more times to make sure they got the point.
@@basildaoust2821 As long as you don't bump them up past yeoman, royals are pretty nice with no drawbacks. The temptation to promote them can bankrupt a colony pretty quick though.
@@FrancisJohnYT exactly how I thought an Irishman would respond to that, very based lmao. I've only had one acolyte but because of the throne room requirement and having braziers fueled 24/7 their usefulness declines rather quickly as the amount of wasted resources goes up
If you're looking for a good tribal seed, I like to use torment, it has 3 joggers, generally manageable pawns (a couple greedy and an abrasive) and is really only missing medical skills. It also has a nice empire pawn, double flame in social, single flame in shooting, jogger, psychically hypersensitve.
Hey Francis, thanks for the guide. You may be pleased to know, in my latest playthrough, I just finished purging all Savages, Pirates, and the Empire from my planet. Long live The Anima Tree 😀
@@FrancisJohnYT just under 3 years, I think. I had a squad of 7, 3 melee with cat armor, 4 range with recon. Neuroquake is broken lol. You get a faction hit on everyone when you use it, but if you use it to clear a enemy base, your gain all the faction back, so . . .
Additionally, my jedi that cast neuroquake had a persona weapon that gives him psyfocus on kill, so we could roll into a savage base, kill everyone with weapons, and then roll into the next pirate or empire base, and unleash all that kill energy in a Neuroquake. Worked out beautifully.
to get wondrously impressive you either need a very large room (as big as your usual late game base stockpile) made of gold walls and floors with 2-4 gold large legendary sculpture as for a wondrously impressive bedroom you'll need to make it bigger 6x8 or somethin similar and have all the furniture's on legendary quality alongside three legendary golden grand sculptures and space matters on it cause a anything that doesn't add any beauty reduces the impressiveness by 5-10 points the catch is that you barely get 240+ cause you start to trade beauty with space.
13x13 are my go to. Those make 5x5 (with walls) bedrooms and workshops and fit orbitals just fine. And 13x13 doesn't need pillars if you don't subdivide them
In fact I love 23x23 layout especially because it doesn't make roofs, it works through initial mess and later in the game I can make more sensible layouts.
very good video as usual, that remind me a very good video of Yeti on the V1, i appreciate the care you have about wealth problem I have just few remarks to do: 1 - marble statue are long to produce and marble is not on all maps or need additionnal work to produce while wood statue are quick and cheap to produce 2 - chair improve impressiveness without reducing walkable place 3 - smaller rooms are possible by flooring one tile of valuable material (ie: gold or jade) depending of how much space you want to save
Nice points, I have tended to choose my starts but maybe wood statues would make more sense, just not WOOD FLOORS OR WALLS EVER, EVER. I built a base with wood and then watched 80% of it and almost everything in the warehouse gets destroyed by fire... it was bad but I did fix the base with stone and did manage to recover and get the win but man talk about getting depressed.
Didn't know about tightness being that important, having passive coolers in each bedroom was making the difference between slightly and somewhat impressive
I kinda go for the organic look because of the map. I choose small or large hills. It looks like this method is better suited to flat maps. But, but but but but (I like butts), this method has so many advantages and the detail about making rooms impressive is very much appreciated. So maybe I will be implementing this method in an organic style. :)
7:51 I suppose a use for them might be if your artist has an inspiration? Would make some sense for them to make a grand sculpture, then, as you'll potentially get the rough equivalent of 4 legendary large sculptures for the price of one inspiration, instead of the 4 inspirations you would otherwise need.
glad I saw this, because until very recently the wiki showed barracks providing the same bonus as bedrooms at the top most tiers and when I first adopted barracks this was true and never considered barracks squad being nerfed. This meant that if you could get the head of the bed far enough from where other people traveled you could effectively save a ton of wealth by just making deep cubbies for your colonists to sleep in in a very large and thus easy to improve room. I personally was using a room with wall length 19 on the vertical to achieve this. bonus points if you extended the room horizontally to add your dining and rec room to the side. It all being one room meant that you saved on heating and cooling, total amount of wealth spent on art, etc. trade off was that no matter how far away from the main hall your colonist was they still receive the sleep disturbed debuff from other colonoists going to their beds. now that I checked because I wanted to be all smarmy and say "but with barracks you can get wondrously... easier" I find that it changed. barracks squad has been nerfed and I need to reconsider how I strategize around bedrooms. one tidbit you should mention is bed materials, stone for prisons, wood/steel/plasteel for everything else. a marble bed may look pretty but it slows your rest down. I personally use wood.
I like to use a fort-like design for my bases, though the bedrooms are essentially the same size: 24/48 6x3 bedrooms, "circled" around the central storage zone. Though turning the hallway connecting all those bedrooms to one another into a giant, extremely impressive dining room never occured to me. I'm too used to build them next to my future killbox and hospital. ^_^
I like to go with multiple dining rooms, dedicate half a block in different corners of the base and it cuts down on the amount of eating without table incidents. Though in all fairness that is usually fairly late game.
That many rooms is necessary if playing on adventure mode/med difficulty because you can make 1 large stone walled room with 1 large marble sculpture and 3-4 beds in the room. The small negative effect from being woken up by others is offset by the room being spacious, clean, and the beds being good.
Impressive bedrooms, masterwork statues, a spreadsheet to micromanage the happiness quotient of your population... the only thing this game is missing is alcoholic dwarves.
I've only just got into Rimworld and I've been looking online for useful ideas/hints I might not have thought of yet. The 17x18 modular room size is an AMAZING idea! I've always favoured good design over asthetics, so seeing how this works is an eye opening. Going to have to design my bases like that from now on! Also, I never new you can have solar panels inside of the Wind Turbine areas; I thought those had to be completely clear, that really helps with keeping things compact. Fantastic video, have a new sub :)
Grand Sculptures are really good when Colonists do recreational act "Viewing art". This will increase their recreation stat, based on how high the beauty of the art is. The higher the Beauty, the faster the Recreation increases. This is the best possible way to increase recreation, as it's possible to max out the bar in like three seconds or faster.
@@FrancisJohnYT Pog That's a good strategy. If you have too many recreational activities, it becomes less likely the colonist will view the art. Alternatively, you could sell it for the big bucks.
I always go with a 17x19 design. Makes for 6 5x5s and a 3 tile hallway. The bedrooms come out to 30, "average size" with a bedside table, dresser, and lamp. Throw in carpets and you've got slightly impressive, which is a +3. I was unaware of how unimportant dressers and bedside tables are until this video. I always went with it because you can just make three bedrooms and have the other side be used for temporary storage lol
Use Steel Floors! They give the same beauty as marble tiles and slightly more wealth, but also have a cleanliness bonus of 0.20. Not much but helps a lot in between the janitor coming though
The comfort is worth it. It's about an extra hour of +2 mood buff, and I've had colonists literally break when they didn't have a break risk because they were right at that line of minor break risk for ages. An extra hour away from that barrier decreases the chance of a break, which is definitely worth it.
I tend to not bother early game and by late game everyone has an excellent bed so I don't bother. Still an extra hour or two of comfort is not the worst thing in the world.
With ideology, bedrooms are now the ideal place to grow nutrifungus. While most ideologies won't appreciate eating it, it makes for a fine hay subtitude for all your animal ranching needs and will improve the beauty of every tiles from -1 to +1. Another option would be and a Standing lamp and to grow Dandelions (which only require 30% light) and to zone/pen grazing animals in it. Make sure your colonists sleep schedule is synchronise with animals to avoid interupted sleep. A good option are Guinea Pigs because they nuzzle, give minimal filth and that their leather is the most heat insulating textile in the game, which is great for tribalwear.
I cannot believe you murdered Sora's parents just to prove a point. Smh I remember watching a video with modular octagon shaped rooms. Think it saved resources or something by using less blocks to encapsulate the same space.
People already mentioned hospitals but there's one other situation end tables and dressers work I think: couples. It's nice to have a comfortable room when you get some lovin. And since I'm pretty sure they're awake they get that bones.
The grand sculptures are better for recreation purposes and to fill the "beauty" bar. Its overall beauty is faaaar higher than regular statues. Recreational rooms, workshops, kitchen place one where your pawns spend most of their day.
The way you describe it they are beauty bombs. Interesting. I would be interesting in testing our putting them on heavily trafficked areas. Could you get a statue so awesome that a dupe could max out their beauty meter simple by walking past it? Adding to the list of tests that need doing.
1) Use wooden floors to start because of limited resources but upgrade to stone asap to prevent fires; the same goes for wooden furniture. Fighting a fire in a small enclosed space is time consuming and deadly. 2) Grand Sculptures can be placed in large rooms and used for defensive cover and decor, I like plasteel grans sculptures since they are not flammable and have a large amount of hp. 3) End tables and dressers are quick ways to skill up construction and can be sold off later if you do not want them. 4) Build your bedrooms as close to the projected location of your kill box or main defensive line as possible to reduce travel time and as a better lure for raiders to your defensive positions. 5) Plan your settlement around your geothermal vents and use the geothermal power plants exhaust to heat your base. Build either a small outside patio garden, animal area or some other unroofed structure either adjacent or near the geothermal plant and use vents to shunt the heat either into the base hallways or venting it out into the open.
Have to be honest. I love organic messy settlements and hated your regular squares in your 25 base. However you made some good points and I'm feeling tempted to try your layout on a new play through. Maybe I can try fighting all my battles in the corridors and leave out the outer wall and kill box.
Higher rest effectiveness is not always better. I have a pawn in my current colony who is a quick sleeper, so I decided to give them a masterwork double bed. They sleep amazingly fast, which has 2 drawbacks. 1. Since they only need like 2 hours of sleep, they end uo spending almost 22 hours awake each day. By the end of the day, they are exhausted and in a bad mood, leading to mental breaks. 2. They sleep so fast, that despite being married for most of the time I have had my colony, he and his wife almost never "get some lovin"
Something that i started doing recently in my games is i build the bedrooms larger, but i moved the main job they will do to their rooms IE Stone Cutter bench in with the main stone cutter. This helped in multiple days, now the rooms are much larger and give larger room bonus, they seem to stay happier at way higher levels and the most impressive stat that this changed is they NO LONGER socialize as much together, so there is rarely anymore social fights due to negative socializing. I am currently playing a game which i am testing restriction zoning, so they are rarely ever see one another and placed 1x1 frigerators in the corner of joining rooms that also touches the outside hallway. They will access the frig from within their room.
Won't the room become ugly due to the stone cutter bench and stone chunks? Or does the increased room size compensate for that? This is something I've thought a lot about trying, especially for cooks and researchers.
couple note from my previously research. don't use the confy chair, excellent wooden chair have the same confort (max 1.00), but better beauty. large statue have only one use, to boost with less resource your skill, but if you craft large, you get some statue to place around at least. jade statue give a lote of beauty and weath, and are very usefull to make a very impressive bedroom with a double bed; not always a couple can make some love, if one have a night schedule and the other not, they will almost never do it, the same if one of the couple is your primary caravanier, when is out, they will be less happy than normal. floor don't make big dofference in therms of beauty, just stick with wooden or better any stony (marble will give a 30% extra, but is not really a big difference). For the wall marble for your bedroom, granite for everything else. I like the brick modular base, i use the same of you, just 17x17, cause i want to get simetrical with the killbox, but for the next run i will try your method, the 3 solar lamp are very interesting. great video as always :)
If a couple has a day and night schedule why not just FIX it. Do pawns have an "I like to work in the day"? I disagree I think the three solar lamps look stupid, can't think of a better way to describe how bad it feels, I love how you say no waste but like maybe a 1/3 of that room is wasted space in your 3 light pattern, can't think of much worse. Sure the light isn't wasted but it is the growing area that I would have been growing in that you are completely ignoring. However, if you care more about having a square grid that can be moved and shifted around maybe that isn't something you care about and if everything in the no grow areas doesn't matter like maybe you had hay planted in them and can just feast on your animals during the event if needed.
huh, i was always building my rooms based around the radius of the orbital trade beacon to get around that analysis paralysis, but now that im using Ogre stack i don't need as much storage space, so im trying this!
Ai chip (EPOE mod), circadian half cycler, joy wire and pain stopper and you have a godmode pawn that never sleeps and has permanent 100% consciousness
One thing is that you can get +3 on a really good barracks. Since u save so much space and can cram loads of wealth in its quite easy. In fact the only issue is disturbed sleep Edit: in fact I think if u just remove the inner corridor doors and move the beds to the back or the room u would hit +3 with a fraction of the wealth and aboid disturbed sleep for the most part! Could probably slim it down to 2x6 blocks for 33% more beds. May need to thin the inner corridor to 1 wide to ensure u don't cramp the beds and keep enough distance.
17:33 - Your kitchen would consume that whole (17x18 tile) room? How much do your pawns eat? I have yet to need a kitchen larger than 5x7, and by then I have so many pawns that the game is noticeably slowing down. Or are you including the kitchen and freezer in that? Because, in that case, 17x18 actually seems a bit small to deal with the amount of toxic fallouts and physically impossible "cold snaps" this game throws at you before you've even been able to research hydroponics. My "macro rooms" are generally 11x11 plus the walls, which is very factorisable (you can divide each side into 5+5, 3+7, or 3+3+3 - or 13+9, 15+7, etc. if you put two side by side) and makes is easy to align rooms and hallways (in addition to not needing support pillars). Doesn't make the most of the grow lamps, but doesn't leave useless unlit corners in greenhouses, either.
A kitchen would only take up a fraction of 17*18 room. Though later on the rest of the room would most likely be refrigerated for food storage. Outside of farming and solar I rarely dedicated a full room to one purpose. They are usually sub divided into smaller rooms.
Jade statues are both more beautiful and cheaper than the silver ones. I have no problem using it mid game, especially for the barracks which are beautiful enough to negate the -3 debuff for interrupted sleep and are very compact.
I used ur grid pattern on my last modded playthrough and its work like a charm.. Its look nice and easy to defend.. For my royalty bedroom (knight/dame+) i just used 2 bedroom space so they dont mess up with the grid (6x7).. And going for more than +4 is not worthed imo.. Its better to just spread the statue to get the beauty mood
I really like that it removes a whole bunch of planning, I would spend way to long trying to fit things in otherwise. Nice idea for the royal beds, going to steal that idea when I get around to hosting them.
@@FrancisJohnYT u should try to get one pawn to knight/dame asap in your next playthrough.. Trading with the empire is really good as long u have silver.. They sell u a lot of endgame gear..
I use Jade Small Sculptures. It helps me a lot, a small jade statue is only 50 jade and depending on the quality, can be worth a good 120-300 beauty. Helps me out alot with the jealous/greedy type and Royal Rooms that are no longer dignified because it's dirty.
@@Forfeitdemeanor they are pricey but unless they're masterworks or legendary, i think the values remain under 3 digits. For example : a good jade small sculpture is worth 425$ with a beauty of 270 for only 50 jade. I think its a great booster for the early game.
I feel like an idiot for putting coolers and heaters in every single bedroom when I could have just used vents and then temp controlled the central hallway... Oh well!
I've found grand sculptures can be good if you have a decent artist with a creative inspiration, while in the super long run not as good can be good mid-game cause you are getting more out of that good (or terrible) mood of your artist.
You can make couple of statues and drop them in their rooms and hallways (or dinning ec room) to get mood buff and later you can just sell them. Small wooden art sells for about $120 I think, assuming it's of normal or good quality, and most traders will buy them, so it's not like you wasted time and resources. I play with slave\prisoners mod, so I keep prisoners that have art skill and let them make statues, and others to do some mundane task like hauling and mining.
I find it hilarious when I watch an entire tutorial based on "Don't use end tables and dressers, you'll do so much better", bro, it's seconds to build, good training, super cheap unexpensive WOOD, except if you're on a tundra map or desert, there's no point not building them lol
Awesome protips! So if i cover all thin-roofed spaces In my base with sandbags the raiders wouldn't land in bedroom/kitchen/storageroom. Also i will redesign my bedrooms now. Thanks 🙂
If you like base building games at all, heartily recommend. I don't even usually like games that have detailed battle in them but Rimworld is the exception to the rule.
@@basildaoust2821 I think the base game had a modest discount earlier this year, but I could be wrong. No discounts on the DLC yet. That I would have known.
In the event you're worried about your wealth growing out of control, you could make the art out of wood instead of marble, they value less. Not sure if the sacrifice to beauty makes them more efficient or not though in terms of morale. It's good to know grand sculptures aren't worth it anymore, outside of maybe selling them I suppose(?). Good information anyway~
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I use end tables and dressers because I like them.
That's it.
This.
me too, but there is a benefit if your constructors are crap. well built beds get a high score on their own, but bad ones need end tables to reach the same scores. is useful if you overflow hospital beds and pawns are resting in their own beds because comfort then applies.
@Nike 5 Mega I never use stone on beds cause it gives less rest effectiveness at most it would be jade(very late game like 22mil wealth) since that doesnt reduce rest effectiveness
also circadian half cycler are amazing on crafters and researchers even if its a -15% conscience they are not only giving up a free bedroom but over all a lvl 20 crafter w/0 circadian half cycler cant craft as fast as a lvl15 crafter w/ circadian half cycler since they have to sleep with is basically 8 hours of work missed (I tested this by cloning a colonist and seeing who can craft faster on a day) also if ur really willing give that crafter luciferium and it would only be a -5% conscience with the benefit of that very neat manipulation bonus
I end up doing a lot of rock smoothing even though it's not worth the effort. I like to think my pawns have a taste for mountainside fortresses, and they are committed enough to the theme to put in the extra effort.
Also, don't for get to build a layer of granite walls around your marble walls for double walled temperature insulation and maximum battle readiness.
@@geoffbeidler Or jut don't do marble at all, it's structural weakness isn't justified by the +1 beauty when you can get +100 from a normal statue.
A info nugget to endtable and dressers: in your hospital their usefullness exells. The reason is because your injured pawns lay awake in bed when they recover from their wounds! Thus a higher comfort might be the nicer thing to cancel out negative moodlets like intens pain, etc.
sure but that sounds like it would mess with my tiny sized 8 beds around a single monitor. Maybe I could have a treatment place and a recovery place but I have never done that.
@@basildaoust2821 I honestly always have hospital baracks, i never bother with individual ones.
@@basildaoust2821 i know old ass post, but when i do the 8 beds to a monitor, i put end tables in the inner corners, so some beds get the bonus. If i remeber it right.
@@jerryandersson4873 Interesting, it funny I watch other videos that suggested you never build an end table to dresser because they consume too much bedroom space, which I suppose isn't relevant in a hospital. Having said all that I just love the medipod, though you do have to stay alive until you have the researched and resources to build it and maybe a few beds just in case several people all need the hospital now but it is amazing last time I played.
@@basildaoust2821 For the beds around a monitor method, I've seen people who arrange the beds in such a way that there are 2 beds facing each direction around the monitor, and then add end tables in the corner spaces between the beds (to make the entire bed/monitor/end table setup a square) and then all of the beds get a boost from the end tables
Ah, the three stages of any game:
Stage 1: Clueless
Stage 2: Focus on numbers
Stage 3: Stop caring about your stupid characters and design something that looks cool to you
I skipped stage 2
the 3 stages of my game are
Stage 1: basic stuff
Stage 2: focus on defense
Stage 3: go onto a new save and repeat from stage 1
@@RedLeicesterCheese mine is
1
Stage 1: make a plan
Stage 2: design and research the numbers
Stage 3: build everything not referencing once to my plan
I swear I’m going to dig up my dead dog and put him on the dining room table if I don’t get a new statue for my room this year.
LOLOLOLOL!
well done, Sir
Reasonable
I feel you. I dug up my dead wife because I saw too many dead bodies. I should have stayed at my art station making large statues.
Hey, if it tracks with likely voters
You forgot the amazing strategy of just planting flowers on the dirt floor.
Will they grow without sunlight?
@@ShepardCommander Decorative plants typicaly only need 30% so a torch small lamp or camp fire is enough - which is good to have anyway for heat or light
The time spent replanting them probably costs you more than a fancy floor, after a few cycles.
@@RFC-3514 But it's also training for plants skill, and a dedicated 18+ plants master with specialized arms and bionic legs can basically plant flowers over your entire base in a day or so.
@@danielfarfudinov3193 - The issue isn't the time it takes to _plant_ them, it's the time it takes to _walk_ between locations (especially if they interrupt the job to go eat or do something else, and have to walk back two or three times to finish each location - and with flowers it's never really "finished").
That's always the main problem as bases grow in Rimworld: time wasted walking between jobs.
End tables and dresser are effective in a hospital. Being Luxuriously Comfortable is a great way to counter the various pain debuffs for pawns on bed rest.
"ahhh! ahhh! my leg is boiling with pus and cancer but hey! There's a quite impressive wardrobe here so it's fine!"
...rimworld logic.
Excellent quality wooden bed gets you over the 0.9 comfort therehold so you don't need the end table nor the dresser as long as you have a decent builder you can just build and deconstruct until you get the right quality for all your needs. Wood is easily accessible in most biomes so wasted resources don't matter.
The dresser bonus is good for roleplay if your bedroom design can afford losing couple tiles of space or if you really want that comfort early on, but as long as it's over the 0.9 it will give you the +10 max bonus for the whole time a pawn lays in it. At the end of the day it's just a +1/-1 mood difference which isn't nearly as much as other things so feel free to build them the way you want.
Early game when you have a single room, a good trick I like to use is to cover the floor in daylilies (plant zone, not in pots). This does a few things, first it adds a lot of beauty without taking up space which means with the large room and the high beauty it's often an impressive or very impressive barracks. The next is, since the floor is dirt, pawns don't track dirt on to it, so you don't have to clean. Next is it trains up growing for new pawns, so they don't fail so much in early harvests. Next, if you also put dining furniture in it, pawns will eat there and you'll have a very impressive dining room moodlet. There's obvious downsides, interrupted sleep, wasted time replanting, etc. So they do eventually transition into rooms, but you can go for quite a while on a multipurpose room with a floor filled with daylilies.
Finally a Francis John bedroom tutorial
When you say it that way you make me a little nervous :)
@@FrancisJohnYT Next up: Lovin Tutorial!
I love Francis John so much.
@@FrancisJohnYT don't worry I'll bring chocolates and whisky :)
Exactly, now we can be confident in the bedroom.
I love these little tutorial nuggets. Ive got just over 3500 hours in rimworld since I started playing in the A14 days, and even then I still find myself learning new little mechanics watching these videos.
Getting them maxed on comfort while sleeping dose help, if you max comfort they have bigger pool of comfort to drop down from, and at the very least it helps to prevent them from geting debufs from to low comfort. Not to mention they are quite cheap and add a tiny beat of beauty themself, enough to mostly offsett lose of space, at least in earlygame rooms.
By 13:00 to 14:00 the comfort buff is gone, the extra comfort you gain from end tables buys you about 1.5 hours more buff. Which is not nothing, it's just not enough to motivate me to install them.
it could help to go from awful to dull, but at this point you can just floor the bedroom, confort, like beauty e space need, go up really fast and go down very slow, so you don't need that extra confort, is better if you spend that wood to try to make a better chair for when they eat.
P.S. don't use the confy chair, excellent wooden chair are way better, they ave the same amount of confort, but better beuty e less value (most of the case)
@@raismin739 Pawns normaly dont spend that much time eating, you can even see here ruclips.net/video/ybHLtGwWEF8/видео.html
comfor from eating that meal went up only like 10 %
@@SaneTrinity it was just a normal chair, if you put an excellent one, you get a much hight boost that will keep your morale for 1-2 hour more, enought if they go to meditate to the tree
@@raismin739 plz get your facts straight before spouting nonsense, how fast you gain comfort is not based on furniture comfort stat, it only affects max amount of comfort you can get when using it. and you dont use dining chairs long enough to matter much. shure its still usefull, but way less cost efective than bed.
The tidbit about the barricades preventing drop pods was a big highlight of this video for me
I like that he's using ONI terms (dupes, morale) instead of rimworld terms (pawn, mood) for this video.
I gave my sims an epic bed and it almost doubled their willpower.
If you make your walls out of smoothed rock it also gives a beauty buff. More work, but great training early game for your constructors.
I'd say adding lights is a very good idea early game, and leaving them in(and off) is still good late game. Early game players generally don't have a dedicated hospital, and if you do have one bed, what happens when several pawns get sick/injured? The penalty from treating in darkness could be the make/break point for saving someone. It also makes it just a bit easier to convert bedrooms into prison cells in an emergency. As a side note you have had enemies drop pod directly onto your hospital, who can say when that will happen to everyone else right when it's most inconvenient.
Standard lights are only 10 steel, if you put in one unconnected conduit so you don't have to have pawns turn them on and off that still only 11 steel. Not a huge investment for a measurable increase in tend quality. Now late game this is much less important, as you likely have a couple of high grade medics, and a dedicated hospital. But it will still hurt you if you're ever unprepared, because it's Rimworld.
I agree, put in the light. I usually stick in a table, chair and light when it's for prisoners. I also spread out the cells so that their are no mass prison breaks.
Personally think that first room is a bit misleading. Having good art and +1 walls makes a big difference at that level. Plus at that level having good marble statues laying around isn't exactly common. Prioritizing art skills usually comes after other essentials on most difficulties. Again, referencing early game, when you would just have dirt and or wood floors.
My bases always fall apart mid game. This should help out a lot. They usually end up disorganized and inefficient because I just slap stuff on
I really like the no nonsense, straight to the point style of this video. (And then also yea, it's super informative!). Thanks!
I always enjoy these tutorial videos. How i found this channel actually.
A few notes though:
The buff from the dresser and endtable coupled with a royal bed (which also improves rest effectiveness) means you start with a +10 to mood for a couple of hours, at which point you then progress through your normal comfort bonuses. Its basically equivalent to half a beer every day that 1) stacks with actual beer 2) has no side effects 3) is really cheap to implement and 4) costs nothing to maintain.
They also improve room impressiveness early game again for basically nothing
The requirements for titles should also be mentioned. You need 30 tiles for the highest titles, merging 2 of the fullsized bedrooms gives you 42, which is enough, but as the highest requires ALL fine flooring not just 30 tiles of it, that's an extra 240 stone blocks. On the ones with the middle dining room, you only have 35 tiles which is a lot more managable.
Fantastically useful, the modular approach is great. I am a new fan to three wide corridors as chokepoints are so useful!
Learn a lot. Took bedroom quality for granted. No wonder my pawns have breakdowns often
Your 17*18 tile design is definitely awesome.
Well done. I didn't know that dressers and end tables are useless. Will probably still use them for RPing, but should I want a no nonsense playthrough, I will follow your advice.
Francis you are by far my favorite RUclips content creator. I seriously hope you keep it up. 👍
You forgot to mention the barracks though it's there...
Another thing to add maybe the bedroom requirement of entitled pawn that need minimum 30 spaces, all fine floored, min 80 impressiveness, a drapes, royal bed, dresser and end table for max title. Mostly for entitled guest from empire's quest and your own entitled pawn.
That's why i usually set my room by 7 X 5 to fulfill those requirements. Eat more spaces, but anything for my pawns
I have been avoiding dealing with the royals, Ireland has a bad history with them. I prefer to shoot them first and then a couple more times to make sure they got the point.
@@FrancisJohnYT Really every time I see them they seem like they could wipe out most colonies in the beginning.
@@basildaoust2821 As long as you don't bump them up past yeoman, royals are pretty nice with no drawbacks. The temptation to promote them can bankrupt a colony pretty quick though.
@@FrancisJohnYT exactly how I thought an Irishman would respond to that, very based lmao. I've only had one acolyte but because of the throne room requirement and having braziers fueled 24/7 their usefulness declines rather quickly as the amount of wasted resources goes up
If you're looking for a good tribal seed, I like to use torment, it has 3 joggers, generally manageable pawns (a couple greedy and an abrasive) and is really only missing medical skills. It also has a nice empire pawn, double flame in social, single flame in shooting, jogger, psychically hypersensitve.
Seed? Pretty sure that only affects the planet biome generation.
@@Fr33zeBurn When choosing a starting scenario you can type in a seed into the custom scenario menu
"the dups...".
The reference tho
I also appreciate the insurmountably provided by the simple CHEST HIGH WALL!!!~
Hey Francis, thanks for the guide.
You may be pleased to know, in my latest playthrough, I just finished purging all Savages, Pirates, and the Empire from my planet. Long live The Anima Tree 😀
Respect! how many years did that take? The planet is a big place.
@@FrancisJohnYT just under 3 years, I think. I had a squad of 7, 3 melee with cat armor, 4 range with recon. Neuroquake is broken lol. You get a faction hit on everyone when you use it, but if you use it to clear a enemy base, your gain all the faction back, so . . .
Additionally, my jedi that cast neuroquake had a persona weapon that gives him psyfocus on kill, so we could roll into a savage base, kill everyone with weapons, and then roll into the next pirate or empire base, and unleash all that kill energy in a Neuroquake. Worked out beautifully.
to get wondrously impressive you either need a very large room (as big as your usual late game base stockpile) made of gold walls and floors with 2-4 gold large legendary sculpture as for a wondrously impressive bedroom you'll need to make it bigger 6x8 or somethin similar and have all the furniture's on legendary quality alongside three legendary golden grand sculptures and space matters on it cause a anything that doesn't add any beauty reduces the impressiveness by 5-10 points the catch is that you barely get 240+ cause you start to trade beauty with space.
13x13 are my go to. Those make 5x5 (with walls) bedrooms and workshops and fit orbitals just fine. And 13x13 doesn't need pillars if you don't subdivide them
In fact I love 23x23 layout especially because it doesn't make roofs, it works through initial mess and later in the game I can make more sensible layouts.
3 years latter, and I'm still coming back to this video for occasional reference. Well done sir. This info has also aged pretty well.
no endtables and dressers? barbaric!
very good video as usual, that remind me a very good video of Yeti on the V1, i appreciate the care you have about wealth problem
I have just few remarks to do:
1 - marble statue are long to produce and marble is not on all maps or need additionnal work to produce while wood statue are quick and cheap to produce
2 - chair improve impressiveness without reducing walkable place
3 - smaller rooms are possible by flooring one tile of valuable material (ie: gold or jade) depending of how much space you want to save
Nice points, I have tended to choose my starts but maybe wood statues would make more sense, just not WOOD FLOORS OR WALLS EVER, EVER. I built a base with wood and then watched 80% of it and almost everything in the warehouse gets destroyed by fire... it was bad but I did fix the base with stone and did manage to recover and get the win but man talk about getting depressed.
This has introduced me to the tryhard side of the Rimworld community.
Didn't know about tightness being that important, having passive coolers in each bedroom was making the difference between slightly and somewhat impressive
Had to play this on 75% Speed. This man talks fast but has really good information
I kinda go for the organic look because of the map. I choose small or large hills. It looks like this method is better suited to flat maps. But, but but but but (I like butts), this method has so many advantages and the detail about making rooms impressive is very much appreciated. So maybe I will be implementing this method in an organic style. :)
Another in depth tutorial, let me grab some tea and the cat and settle in.
Thank you for these great, insightful videos, FJ.
I like your planning, no cat myself but have to have a tea before I think of starting.
@@FrancisJohnYT I got distracted and forgot the tea, but the cat and some chocolate are here! Thank you.
7:51 I suppose a use for them might be if your artist has an inspiration? Would make some sense for them to make a grand sculpture, then, as you'll potentially get the rough equivalent of 4 legendary large sculptures for the price of one inspiration, instead of the 4 inspirations you would otherwise need.
Good point, would be useful in a dining hall as it unlike a bedroom would have enough space to support it.
Not even notified yet, it was in recommendations lol
me too
same XD
I like how scientific all your videos are. Thank you for sharing your experience
glad I saw this, because until very recently the wiki showed barracks providing the same bonus as bedrooms at the top most tiers and when I first adopted barracks this was true and never considered barracks squad being nerfed. This meant that if you could get the head of the bed far enough from where other people traveled you could effectively save a ton of wealth by just making deep cubbies for your colonists to sleep in in a very large and thus easy to improve room. I personally was using a room with wall length 19 on the vertical to achieve this. bonus points if you extended the room horizontally to add your dining and rec room to the side. It all being one room meant that you saved on heating and cooling, total amount of wealth spent on art, etc. trade off was that no matter how far away from the main hall your colonist was they still receive the sleep disturbed debuff from other colonoists going to their beds. now that I checked because I wanted to be all smarmy and say "but with barracks you can get wondrously... easier" I find that it changed. barracks squad has been nerfed and I need to reconsider how I strategize around bedrooms. one tidbit you should mention is bed materials, stone for prisons, wood/steel/plasteel for everything else. a marble bed may look pretty but it slows your rest down. I personally use wood.
Thanks! That was extremely informative and helped me keep my pawns happy even in the worst of times.
I like to use a fort-like design for my bases, though the bedrooms are essentially the same size: 24/48 6x3 bedrooms, "circled" around the central storage zone. Though turning the hallway connecting all those bedrooms to one another into a giant, extremely impressive dining room never occured to me. I'm too used to build them next to my future killbox and hospital. ^_^
I like to go with multiple dining rooms, dedicate half a block in different corners of the base and it cuts down on the amount of eating without table incidents. Though in all fairness that is usually fairly late game.
A guide I didn't realize I needed. This, this is why I subbed in two ONI vids but didn't even own it. Tah mate, much appreciated.
That many rooms is necessary if playing on adventure mode/med difficulty because you can make 1 large stone walled room with 1 large marble sculpture and 3-4 beds in the room. The small negative effect from being woken up by others is offset by the room being spacious, clean, and the beds being good.
This is it. The one video that got me into Rimworld. Thanks.
Impressive bedrooms, masterwork statues, a spreadsheet to micromanage the happiness quotient of your population... the only thing this game is missing is alcoholic dwarves.
I've only just got into Rimworld and I've been looking online for useful ideas/hints I might not have thought of yet. The 17x18 modular room size is an AMAZING idea! I've always favoured good design over asthetics, so seeing how this works is an eye opening. Going to have to design my bases like that from now on!
Also, I never new you can have solar panels inside of the Wind Turbine areas; I thought those had to be completely clear, that really helps with keeping things compact. Fantastic video, have a new sub :)
What I learnt this video
One night stand gives you 5 comfort
Exactly my kind of humor
Barracks are working just fine when realistic room size mod is on!
Grand Sculptures are really good when Colonists do recreational act "Viewing art".
This will increase their recreation stat, based on how high the beauty of the art is.
The higher the Beauty, the faster the Recreation increases.
This is the best possible way to increase recreation, as it's possible to max out the bar in like three seconds or faster.
Now that we have an artist we are going to be making some statues, if I get an inspiration we can burn it on a grand statue.
@@FrancisJohnYT Pog
That's a good strategy.
If you have too many recreational activities, it becomes less likely the colonist will view the art.
Alternatively, you could sell it for the big bucks.
I always go with a 17x19 design. Makes for 6 5x5s and a 3 tile hallway. The bedrooms come out to 30, "average size" with a bedside table, dresser, and lamp. Throw in carpets and you've got slightly impressive, which is a +3. I was unaware of how unimportant dressers and bedside tables are until this video. I always went with it because you can just make three bedrooms and have the other side be used for temporary storage lol
Use Steel Floors! They give the same beauty as marble tiles and slightly more wealth, but also have a cleanliness bonus of 0.20. Not much but helps a lot in between the janitor coming though
Don't they burn?
The comfort is worth it. It's about an extra hour of +2 mood buff, and I've had colonists literally break when they didn't have a break risk because they were right at that line of minor break risk for ages. An extra hour away from that barrier decreases the chance of a break, which is definitely worth it.
I tend to not bother early game and by late game everyone has an excellent bed so I don't bother. Still an extra hour or two of comfort is not the worst thing in the world.
With ideology, bedrooms are now the ideal place to grow nutrifungus. While most ideologies won't appreciate eating it, it makes for a fine hay subtitude for all your animal ranching needs and will improve the beauty of every tiles from -1 to +1.
Another option would be and a Standing lamp and to grow Dandelions (which only require 30% light) and to zone/pen grazing animals in it. Make sure your colonists sleep schedule is synchronise with animals to avoid interupted sleep. A good option are Guinea Pigs because they nuzzle, give minimal filth and that their leather is the most heat insulating textile in the game, which is great for tribalwear.
He: Having double bed is worth it, colonists are going to ged the lovin' buff
My colonists: mood -10: Had terrible lovin'
I cannot believe you murdered Sora's parents just to prove a point. Smh
I remember watching a video with modular octagon shaped rooms. Think it saved resources or something by using less blocks to encapsulate the same space.
Mother and Uncle, not parents. Just saying. I don't think this is Arkansas or West Virginia (the butt of most in-family relationship jokes in the USA)
Yeah but what do the hallways look like
nice modular base build idea, i've approached it similarily before but not near this well refined of as an idea!
I have made some modification since, just changed the dimensions a little. Makes building a base really scalable.
People already mentioned hospitals but there's one other situation end tables and dressers work I think: couples.
It's nice to have a comfortable room when you get some lovin. And since I'm pretty sure they're awake they get that bones.
The grand sculptures are better for recreation purposes and to fill the "beauty" bar. Its overall beauty is faaaar higher than regular statues. Recreational rooms, workshops, kitchen place one where your pawns spend most of their day.
The way you describe it they are beauty bombs. Interesting. I would be interesting in testing our putting them on heavily trafficked areas. Could you get a statue so awesome that a dupe could max out their beauty meter simple by walking past it? Adding to the list of tests that need doing.
@@FrancisJohnYT Just how much wealth will a legendary grand golden statue add?
Huh. I'll start using that modular system, definitely sounds very useful.
1) Use wooden floors to start because of limited resources but upgrade to stone asap to prevent fires; the same goes for wooden furniture. Fighting a fire in a small enclosed space is time consuming and deadly. 2) Grand Sculptures can be placed in large rooms and used for defensive cover and decor, I like plasteel grans sculptures since they are not flammable and have a large amount of hp. 3) End tables and dressers are quick ways to skill up construction and can be sold off later if you do not want them. 4) Build your bedrooms as close to the projected location of your kill box or main defensive line as possible to reduce travel time and as a better lure for raiders to your defensive positions. 5) Plan your settlement around your geothermal vents and use the geothermal power plants exhaust to heat your base. Build either a small outside patio garden, animal area or some other unroofed structure either adjacent or near the geothermal plant and use vents to shunt the heat either into the base hallways or venting it out into the open.
Have to be honest. I love organic messy settlements and hated your regular squares in your 25 base. However you made some good points and I'm feeling tempted to try your layout on a new play through. Maybe I can try fighting all my battles in the corridors and leave out the outer wall and kill box.
I feel the same way, it pained me greatly to discover end tables and dressers really aren't worth it :(
Higher rest effectiveness is not always better. I have a pawn in my current colony who is a quick sleeper, so I decided to give them a masterwork double bed. They sleep amazingly fast, which has 2 drawbacks.
1. Since they only need like 2 hours of sleep, they end uo spending almost 22 hours awake each day. By the end of the day, they are exhausted and in a bad mood, leading to mental breaks.
2. They sleep so fast, that despite being married for most of the time I have had my colony, he and his wife almost never "get some lovin"
Something that i started doing recently in my games is i build the bedrooms larger, but i moved the main job they will do to their rooms IE Stone Cutter bench in with the main stone cutter. This helped in multiple days, now the rooms are much larger and give larger room bonus, they seem to stay happier at way higher levels and the most impressive stat that this changed is they NO LONGER socialize as much together, so there is rarely anymore social fights due to negative socializing. I am currently playing a game which i am testing restriction zoning, so they are rarely ever see one another and placed 1x1 frigerators in the corner of joining rooms that also touches the outside hallway. They will access the frig from within their room.
Won't the room become ugly due to the stone cutter bench and stone chunks? Or does the increased room size compensate for that? This is something I've thought a lot about trying, especially for cooks and researchers.
Thank goodness I found this again XD. Saving this time sobi can go back
couple note from my previously research. don't use the confy chair, excellent wooden chair have the same confort (max 1.00), but better beauty. large statue have only one use, to boost with less resource your skill, but if you craft large, you get some statue to place around at least. jade statue give a lote of beauty and weath, and are very usefull to make a very impressive bedroom with a double bed; not always a couple can make some love, if one have a night schedule and the other not, they will almost never do it, the same if one of the couple is your primary caravanier, when is out, they will be less happy than normal.
floor don't make big dofference in therms of beauty, just stick with wooden or better any stony (marble will give a 30% extra, but is not really a big difference). For the wall marble for your bedroom, granite for everything else.
I like the brick modular base, i use the same of you, just 17x17, cause i want to get simetrical with the killbox, but for the next run i will try your method, the 3 solar lamp are very interesting.
great video as always :)
If a couple has a day and night schedule why not just FIX it. Do pawns have an "I like to work in the day"?
I disagree I think the three solar lamps look stupid, can't think of a better way to describe how bad it feels, I love how you say no waste but like maybe a 1/3 of that room is wasted space in your 3 light pattern, can't think of much worse. Sure the light isn't wasted but it is the growing area that I would have been growing in that you are completely ignoring. However, if you care more about having a square grid that can be moved and shifted around maybe that isn't something you care about and if everything in the no grow areas doesn't matter like maybe you had hay planted in them and can just feast on your animals during the event if needed.
This has made my playthrough so much better. I fluked out and crafted a masterwork art piece worth 2000 beauty too lol
huh, i was always building my rooms based around the radius of the orbital trade beacon to get around that analysis paralysis, but now that im using Ogre stack i don't need as much storage space, so im trying this!
my pawns on wakeup schedule: what's a bed?
Ai chip (EPOE mod), circadian half cycler, joy wire and pain stopper and you have a godmode pawn that never sleeps and has permanent 100% consciousness
I Loved this video and will be implementing these design principles into my new base tonight
That hospital arrangement is gigabrained. I’m stealing it.
One thing is that you can get +3 on a really good barracks. Since u save so much space and can cram loads of wealth in its quite easy.
In fact the only issue is disturbed sleep
Edit: in fact I think if u just remove the inner corridor doors and move the beds to the back or the room u would hit +3 with a fraction of the wealth and aboid disturbed sleep for the most part! Could probably slim it down to 2x6 blocks for 33% more beds. May need to thin the inner corridor to 1 wide to ensure u don't cramp the beds and keep enough distance.
Smoothing floors takes longer but you don’t have to carve the blocks or even haul them
17:33 - Your kitchen would consume that whole (17x18 tile) room? How much do your pawns eat? I have yet to need a kitchen larger than 5x7, and by then I have so many pawns that the game is noticeably slowing down. Or are you including the kitchen and freezer in that? Because, in that case, 17x18 actually seems a bit small to deal with the amount of toxic fallouts and physically impossible "cold snaps" this game throws at you before you've even been able to research hydroponics.
My "macro rooms" are generally 11x11 plus the walls, which is very factorisable (you can divide each side into 5+5, 3+7, or 3+3+3 - or 13+9, 15+7, etc. if you put two side by side) and makes is easy to align rooms and hallways (in addition to not needing support pillars). Doesn't make the most of the grow lamps, but doesn't leave useless unlit corners in greenhouses, either.
A kitchen would only take up a fraction of 17*18 room. Though later on the rest of the room would most likely be refrigerated for food storage. Outside of farming and solar I rarely dedicated a full room to one purpose. They are usually sub divided into smaller rooms.
comfort in bed is useful while in lovin plus medical beds cause I think they awake on those
the free sleep spots would do to prevent pots from landing ;)
Jade statues are both more beautiful and cheaper than the silver ones. I have no problem using it mid game, especially for the barracks which are beautiful enough to negate the -3 debuff for interrupted sleep and are very compact.
Thank you for this helpful and informative video.
thx for all the numbers und good explanation. It helped me a lot.
Put a bunch of wooden chairs it works
I used ur grid pattern on my last modded playthrough and its work like a charm.. Its look nice and easy to defend.. For my royalty bedroom (knight/dame+) i just used 2 bedroom space so they dont mess up with the grid (6x7).. And going for more than +4 is not worthed imo.. Its better to just spread the statue to get the beauty mood
I really like that it removes a whole bunch of planning, I would spend way to long trying to fit things in otherwise. Nice idea for the royal beds, going to steal that idea when I get around to hosting them.
@@FrancisJohnYT u should try to get one pawn to knight/dame asap in your next playthrough.. Trading with the empire is really good as long u have silver.. They sell u a lot of endgame gear..
More information i never knew i didnt know. Thwnk ya
A thousand hours in this game and I had no idea about the room stat balance.
The thresholds are all in the wiki, beyond that you just need to experiment a bit (unless you want to add everything up manually).
The rooms ive been using that i like are 4x7, 1 statue, one dresser, one end table and a double bed.
You're really good at teaching 😁👍
I use Jade Small Sculptures. It helps me a lot, a small jade statue is only 50 jade and depending on the quality, can be worth a good 120-300 beauty. Helps me out alot with the jealous/greedy type and Royal Rooms that are no longer dignified because it's dirty.
Arent they too expensive? Im afraid of building with jade because that makes raids harder.
@@Forfeitdemeanor they are pricey but unless they're masterworks or legendary, i think the values remain under 3 digits.
For example : a good jade small sculpture is worth 425$ with a beauty of 270 for only 50 jade. I think its a great booster for the early game.
I feel like an idiot for putting coolers and heaters in every single bedroom when I could have just used vents and then temp controlled the central hallway... Oh well!
Thanks Francis, very very useful
I subscribed just because you explained it so well
Helpful and entertaining, good video.
This is why I put comfy chairs in the forest so that my hunters can hunt in comfort.
I've found grand sculptures can be good if you have a decent artist with a creative inspiration, while in the super long run not as good can be good mid-game cause you are getting more out of that good (or terrible) mood of your artist.
You can make couple of statues and drop them in their rooms and hallways (or dinning
ec room) to get mood buff and later you can just sell them. Small wooden art sells for about $120 I think, assuming it's of normal or good quality, and most traders will buy them, so it's not like you wasted time and resources.
I play with slave\prisoners mod, so I keep prisoners that have art skill and let them make statues, and others to do some mundane task like hauling and mining.
Excellent advise thank you
Smoothing walls rather than removing rock then building them is way better because they have super high durability yet are still repairable
I find it hilarious when I watch an entire tutorial based on "Don't use end tables and dressers, you'll do so much better", bro, it's seconds to build, good training, super cheap unexpensive WOOD, except if you're on a tundra map or desert, there's no point not building them lol
Awesome protips! So if i cover all thin-roofed spaces In my base with sandbags the raiders wouldn't land in bedroom/kitchen/storageroom. Also i will redesign my bedrooms now. Thanks 🙂
Me, who doesnt play rimworld:
*Hmm yes this is interesting*
If you like base building games at all, heartily recommend.
I don't even usually like games that have detailed battle in them but Rimworld is the exception to the rule.
@@mirjanbouma Ive been planning to get it for a while, but i think im going to finish hollow knight first
@@apotatoewithanaginata8482 a good plan! Im hoping for a discount on the Royalty in the Halloween or December sake.
@@mirjanbouma Maybe this expansion will be different but I believe you will never see Rimworld on sale.
@@basildaoust2821 I think the base game had a modest discount earlier this year, but I could be wrong.
No discounts on the DLC yet. That I would have known.
In the event you're worried about your wealth growing out of control, you could make the art out of wood instead of marble, they value less. Not sure if the sacrifice to beauty makes them more efficient or not though in terms of morale. It's good to know grand sculptures aren't worth it anymore, outside of maybe selling them I suppose(?). Good information anyway~