@Jack Russelle Lewis it doesn't. the main problem with ethanol is rioting the fuel lines. as long as these parts can be modified or replaced to with stand ethanol it would be fine. I have a e85 converted s3 and it has been running fine. just need the right mods.
I think this quote fits perfectly here “ normal people believe that if it an’t broke don’t fix it. Engineers believe that if it an’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet”
I am an engineer and I confirm that. I basically spend my day splashing WD40 on bunch of duct tapes to make them move and adding more duct tapes when they move to stop them from moving.
@@justin60222 they possibly will be in the future but stopping development on ICEs now could hurt manufacturers' short to mid term future as EVs are not mature enough to completely take over the market.
we'd be out of a job if we did thats why. Engineers do for a pound, what any idiot can do for ten. Sooner or later every idiot catches up just by persistence... so we do it for ten pence, and the cycle continues :D
@@darkonnis Anyone can make something but can you optimize something and back everything up with science and know exactly what's going on? when it fail, etc
@@ootmaster1 just go to his channel. I can't recall the exact one, but I'm sure that he talks about it in the middle of the the video. Edit: ruclips.net/video/bwFspzVGUF4/видео.html There's the video of him explaining how it works and how people can reach this specific company to print their parts. It's from 2017, in more recent videos I can recall him saying that specific part X was done 3D printing.
Best part is 3d printers can print different things, not like casts that with one mold you have one piston. One day you can be printing camshaft other day - header. It brings possibilities of crazy prorotypes (some open source) and printing parts not obtainable now
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 the other issue with printing is it takes alot of time (especially for mass production) compared to traditional manufacturing methods.
Theyre taking a page out of sleepy Joe's book, say there's another 100 days to stop covid but open everything in may. Or someone selling a cup of coffee for $20 but marking it down to $5 to make the consumer think they're saving $15, when the cup is only worth $1
So youre most likely right. They will say 10 years, have it available in 2 years but with a price hike, "look how awesome we are that we got it out sooner" durrrr lol
@@Rambovits well but it's really hard to compete against electric, the efficiency is just so much bigger and likely getting even better. Biggest issue currently is mainly the battery and its production.
@@GingerNingerGames exactly. And make it where you have to have specific tools to work on everything. That's how you create a mechanics monopoly and screw the little man
@@Bassplayermane they’re not reliable, don’t lie and play like they’re gods gift to car enthusiasts. Make your life easier and swap the dorito with a real engine.
I’m studying mechanical engineering, and my college has one of the direct metal laser sintering machines. They actually gave us mini pistons made from it at the end of one of my classes lol
What will it take for me to get one of those pistons? Also, hi, I'm in mechanical engineering too. What sort of industry do you want to go into after college? I'm thinking of going into the space industry myself.
I mean... one is a rapidly expanding market with tons of advertising potential and the other is potentially problematic piston tech for 20% of your users, which would you focus on?
@@A0SAirsoft it’s not about what I’d focus on, it’s about what VW Group is focusing on, and they’ve made electrification a matter of existential importance to them.
@@18pluskiddo it’s true that they’re pretty autonomous, but not completely. The final word comes from Wolfsburg, not Stuttgart. Watch VW make Porsche accelerate their embrace of electrification.
Think that was when the first patent was filed. Pistons have been around since at least 300 BC the Greeks were using them and a couple of Archimedes designs used Pistons also.
Yes his research and knowledge on the subject make me smarter because I am learning and the way he explains it. It’s like perfect because it’s all facts. He better be getting his cut no cap
@@ameunier41 a lot of old school cars had forged pistons from the factory, even in pretty mild applications. The primary advantage of casting is cost savings
Imagine if they also could print the engine block as well. Especially if they were able to create ducts for cooling around the rest of the engine and make it even lighter.
I don't want to sound creepy, but the first time i 3D printed my first female anime figurine, i felt some thing that i cannot describe. It was way more detailed than i expected it would be. maybe that's what people feel when they ride the first train ever invented. Still hoping for household/person to be able to manufacture machines/robots by themselves a'la Ghost in the Shell. Imagine cybernetic salon would be just like hair salon in the future, everybody can open one. Oh i wanna add, i can now say "the future is here old man" to my pops lol
@@snarkylive forged pistons are not made with a hammer, they are made with molds. nobody on the planet can made pistons consistently enough with a hammer. read a book.
@@snarkylive Lets not forget Cold Metal Forging . Cold forging is a metal shaping & manufacturing process in which bar stock is inserted into a die and squeezed into a second closed die. The process, completed is at room temperature or below the metal’s recrystallization temperature to form a metal into a desired shape or configuration
@@Kevin-dt9xm You don't even know the definition of forging. Yes, forged pistons are made with a hammer, a very big one that is called a hydraulic press. A few videos you should look to educate yourself since you didn't mention wich books you had read.... ruclips.net/video/Jr6qk5wCPEQ/видео.html Here forging connecting rods ruclips.net/video/vlLb17MEmUY/видео.html
135÷24=5.625days 9:00 Timestamp Imagine driving to work on Monday and driving full Throttle nonstop until Saturday afternoon then finally letting off the gas..... I feel like that's an insane achievement for a machine.
All I was thinking about at that point is how much fuel that took, and how many tonnes of CO2 were added to the balance sheet... Then again, it's probably standard procedure for engine manufacturers.
@@zJoriz If you compare it to the lifetime of a single car it's nothing. Better optimized parts will make cars more economical in the future wich will very rapidly rebalanced some tests.
Now, with 3D printed Con-Rods, 3D printer Crankshaft, 3D printed cylinder block and heads, 3D printer camshafts and 3D printed valves, or even 3D printed flywheel and Dampers, that's LA PERFECTION !
Metal sintering rapid prototyping doesn't give the forging hardening but it allows an all-new family of metal-ceramic alloys that would be too hard to machine, too viscous to cast, and not deformable enough to be forged. in the near future, I can see turbos casing with integrated cooling channel coupled with a liquid intercooler.
old f1 engines used to do about 20,000rpm. they rev lower these days because they can make power at lower revs thanks to the turbo. also, they only have a set number of engines to last a full season, so dont stress them like they used to. i think the regulations cap the rpm to 15,000, but this is rarely if ever reached
"normal boys and girls like you and I." This might be the first time I've seen this channel even acknowledge women who are into and work on cars even exist. LOL. So much so that this little statement stood out.
@@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Fortunately, the surplus can be reused. BMW, for example, uses additive manufacturing (3D printing) for various parts already, like cylinder head for the S58 engine. I'm sure there's increased costs involved with investment, research and development but the parts are available in consumer-ish products so it't can't be that expensive. I think it's the time consuming process that is the biggest hurdle for reaching cost effectiveness. Just, speculating.
@@willstairs942 that's the cool thing about the internet: hearing people from all over the world speak their or your own language with their own lilt. Dawn heah in Tennessee, we says thangs awful funny sawmtimes.
It also means less waist. And recycling would be more efficient. Not to mention you wont get some of the issues with forging such as layering, air pockets, or even durability issues due to uneven cooling.
@@themadmachinist8637 I know, I tried it but Autodesk's business model is prohibitive for the average amateur maker. In Europe the smallest license is like $600 / year. Switched to Freecad and not looking back. It took me like 2 months (evenings) to redesign my stuff from F360 to FC (There is a rather good topology optimization for FC as well).
Actually a greek tuning "garage" has been using different types of materials to 3d print various engine parts , if u look up "fastest evo in the world" u can check out some of their work
@Vincent James Voice Most engines already don't last 100k miles, so basically the same durability for substancial improvements in weight and performance? I'll take it.
Health-care student here, its a common misconception that appendix is useless, it actually stores good bacteria of digestive tract, thus more and more doctors choose to keep the appendix and treat it with antibiotics instead
5 years ago I have been to a plant where they were 3d-printing motorblocks for formula 1 cars. This is the future. Even if some hacks want to abandon combustion engines.
It's sad that these advancements are being made right at the end of the internal combustion engines life. I feel like we're killing it off before it hit its peak
It isnt going anywhere soon. Its going to be around for many more years. Electric vehicles are not the clean, renewable, or as green as people want you to believe. There are serious issues with the safety and toxicity of the materials used to make them.. also untill everyone switches to truly clean power generation then its just trading one polluter for another potentially worse poluter.
@@poncoolride You evidently do not know what you are talking about and just repeat the FUD of the mainstream media. By the way Porsche is offering quite an attractive EV with the Porsche Taycan.
The idea that we could start 3D printing parts for out of production cars on demand AND drastically reduce the cost of that production AND potentially improve the performance of those parts is the glimpse at paradise we've needed this past year
@Vincent James VoiceI mean you could argue the 0-60 point regarding any fast car, if your spending the majority of time in traffic why not drive anything else but a prius to save money on gas. But if your just doing highway pulls I honestly can see why and EV is unappealing considering your just driving in a straight line. In that case yeah the sound is half the experience as otherwise it's a pretty mindless way of driving "fast". (I'm not saying that's what you may do, but it's a majority of people's idea of going "fast")
@Vincent James Voice lol I live near semi-rural parts of Southeast Pa so I get exactly what your saying too. Honestly never would have gotten into cars as much as I did if it weren't for the covid lockdowns.
Its not a case of "if its not broken, dont fix it" its a case of technology allowing for improvement dude. The first thing i got from the thumbnail is making the piston lighter in weight and probably bringing down the cost while using less material. The lighter piston will probably have a similar result as upgrading to lighter flywheel.
I love how computers bring us closer to nature in more and more ways. it's a creepy dichotomy that may prove the theory that our next big step in evolution is an android similar species of humanity.
its not only porsche in the game of 3d printing vital car parts. you should check Spyros Panopoylos Automotive ,which currently developes 2 hyper cars ( CHAOS and APEIRON) and have already used 3d printed pistons fron either titanium or ceramic components or carbon fiber in the engine of the world record's EVO with 3000HP
Americans from TESLA says EV. Maybe some money from this. Oh taxpayers in many EU countries paid for someone else new EV cars. And them ride old shit gasoline engine
When you say casting has less strength then forging, this has to do with how the metal is cooled down into a solid. The more slowly it cools, the more it has time to arrange into its optimal crystal structure (i.e. it develops its grain).
Everyone else is moving towards electric, but Porsche is still pushing the internal combustion engine further. This makes me happy
Mazda started to invest in synthetic fuels as well
Most likely still see ice produce by mazda
hope we can all move to ethanol fuel, less pollution and more powerful
@Jack Russelle Lewis Why? Just because of more power?
@Jack Russelle Lewis it doesn't. the main problem with ethanol is rioting the fuel lines. as long as these parts can be modified or replaced to with stand ethanol it would be fine. I have a e85 converted s3 and it has been running fine. just need the right mods.
I think this quote fits perfectly here “ normal people believe that if it an’t broke don’t fix it. Engineers believe that if it an’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet”
Engineers: If it isn’t broken, we have over built it and have used up to much material to do so.
Well somebody has to be paid to do new stuff
@@paolobramucci3609 so sad but reality as it is now. how can we give the consumer less and charge them more.
german tank manufacturers be like "if it ain't broke don't fix it. unless it is the transmission"
@@SuperchargedHornet I mean if only 3rd is gone that isn't the end of the world!
Mechanic: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Engineer: "If it ain't broke, your not trying hard enough."
You mixed up an engineer with Red Green. An engineer is asking how long and how much to get this to break.
@@TheUserid82 ok
I am an engineer and I confirm that. I basically spend my day splashing WD40 on bunch of duct tapes to make them move and adding more duct tapes when they move to stop them from moving.
"If it ain't broke......
Break it."
Also engineer.... (at ford)
"Let's make 16 different toe links for this explorer cause fuck mechanics!"
The piston slap animation made me wince, I won't be starting my engine anymore
Just don't rev above 2k until it's warm :)
@@dtemp132 what if my cold idle rpm is 1800rpm 😳
@@TheCarpenterUnion it's safev
I felt hurt seeing the animation
I felt the slaps and grinds
from what I understand, piston slap occurs only with forged pistons, which probably your car doesnt have
One step closer to 3D printing an entire car.
*YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR*
@@sgal5845 *YOU ALREADY CAN*
Download a rc car
Funny seeing you here...
Wait you can’t 3d print cars yet? I heard you can 3d print houses lol
If "If it ain't broke don't fix it" existed in engineer's minds we would still be using horses and hand made tools. This is frickin awesome!
Gasoline cars are the new horse when compared to electric cars
@@justin60222 they possibly will be in the future but stopping development on ICEs now could hurt manufacturers' short to mid term future as EVs are not mature enough to completely take over the market.
we'd be out of a job if we did thats why. Engineers do for a pound, what any idiot can do for ten. Sooner or later every idiot catches up just by persistence... so we do it for ten pence, and the cycle continues :D
@@darkonnis Anyone can make something but can you optimize something and back everything up with science and know exactly what's going on? when it fail, etc
@@TheoryBreakthrough whose that then?
Is James and Nolan still gonna do a high low with Toyota Tacoma’s
I think so, they hinted at it awhile ago.
And Aaron said he is still working with donut a couple of days ago
That would be awesome! I have an 03 prerunner and would love to see parts compared.
You guys should definitely do another car and do the High low parts
Are James and Nolan...
That would be great
Imagine being able to 3d print broken flanges, mounts, housings, or even whole parts for cars not manufactured for decades
Jay Leno already uses this process on some of his cars. That's the only way to keep them on the road.
@@octopuswithatrident I mean not that i doubt it, but you got a link or something i can google?
@@ootmaster1 just go to his channel. I can't recall the exact one, but I'm sure that he talks about it in the middle of the the video.
Edit: ruclips.net/video/bwFspzVGUF4/видео.html
There's the video of him explaining how it works and how people can reach this specific company to print their parts. It's from 2017, in more recent videos I can recall him saying that specific part X was done 3D printing.
@@octopuswithatrident awesome thanks
Many parts are possible now. There are several shops that offer these services though they're not cheap.
“If it’s not optimal, it’s broken!” All Germans.
in der Tat!
*everyone else other than Americans*
"If it's optimal(german), it's broken, with a huge repair bill." The Rest of the World.
@@austinwolfe7295 that’s pretty racist
@@lilhotdog7011 that's pretty racist of you to assume he's racist
Car manufacturer: "guys, our budget's been cut and I don't think we can make a new engine"
3d printing guy: "bonjour"
Best part is 3d printers can print different things, not like casts that with one mold you have one piston. One day you can be printing camshaft other day - header. It brings possibilities of crazy prorotypes (some open source) and printing parts not obtainable now
@@Ishmael95 still, I think the durability is a day and night difference
More like: "willkommen" xD
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 the other issue with printing is it takes alot of time (especially for mass production) compared to traditional manufacturing methods.
you do realize that a metal 3d printer costs millions right? not to mention that it is not very fast at making parts
The "more power babey" got me nostalgic man
You stole my words, but i'm proud of it 😁
Oh man , it's a super nostalgic
I miss him man. And i miss up to speed
@@felixnorlin2816 what happened to James?
It not "more power babey" its "mo pawa babeh"
Im sure this will be ready sooner than 10 years!
Theyre taking a page out of sleepy Joe's book, say there's another 100 days to stop covid but open everything in may.
Or someone selling a cup of coffee for $20 but marking it down to $5 to make the consumer think they're saving $15, when the cup is only worth $1
So youre most likely right. They will say 10 years, have it available in 2 years but with a price hike, "look how awesome we are that we got it out sooner" durrrr lol
In 10 years you can't even drive ICE anymore xD atleast to some government plans :P
@@Koichifirst Same thoughts, lot of car manufacturers wan't to produce only electric cars from 2035. It's so sad we have these innovations so late.
@@Rambovits well but it's really hard to compete against electric, the efficiency is just so much bigger and likely getting even better. Biggest issue currently is mainly the battery and its production.
European engineers are like: “If it ain’t broke, 3D print it”
On bro
If it ain't broke, figure out why that is, and make it so it's more likely to break but will give good results up to that point
Extremist if it aint broke summon it....nah ill take my 3rd grade paper model and use that
Please make a video on 5star global safety sandards of sport cars are they real safe
@@GingerNingerGames exactly. And make it where you have to have specific tools to work on everything. That's how you create a mechanics monopoly and screw the little man
"what's different about them than the pistons in your car?"
Me: *laughs in rotary*
wait if they apply the 3d printing to the rotary they might become usable
Sorry about your car’s disability :’((((
@@Gunship888 disability? You obviously don't know enough about rotaries
@@Bassplayermane they’re not reliable, don’t lie and play like they’re gods gift to car enthusiasts. Make your life easier and swap the dorito with a real engine.
@@Gunship888 mine has 186k miles on the original motor. Don't give in to the bs
as an engineering student I love when I hear projects involving biomimicry, it was one of my first engineering projects
I think that the best designer is nature; unlike humans, nature has designing things since, well, 4 billion years lol
I’m studying mechanical engineering, and my college has one of the direct metal laser sintering machines. They actually gave us mini pistons made from it at the end of one of my classes lol
The college I went to had one of those machines, my work study was in the lab where it operated.
What will it take for me to get one of those pistons? Also, hi, I'm in mechanical engineering too. What sort of industry do you want to go into after college? I'm thinking of going into the space industry myself.
Lucky. Studying mech. engineering as well and I have yet to find a sintering machine on our campus
“Less than a decade away...”all the while Porsche is moving heaven and earth to make the Taycan a thing.
Porsche is investing a lot in synthetic/carbon neutral fuels
I mean... one is a rapidly expanding market with tons of advertising potential and the other is potentially problematic piston tech for 20% of your users, which would you focus on?
@@A0SAirsoft it’s not about what I’d focus on, it’s about what VW Group is focusing on, and they’ve made electrification a matter of existential importance to them.
@@concernedcitizen2766 Porsche is quite autonomous from VAG, and they're not necessarily committing to all-electric, at least not yet.
@@18pluskiddo it’s true that they’re pretty autonomous, but not completely. The final word comes from Wolfsburg, not Stuttgart. Watch VW make Porsche accelerate their embrace of electrification.
Jeremiah: "a design that's over 300 years old"
Donut Media: *shows a caption that says "first recorded use: 1838"*
What about the communal sponge?
@@gphilipc2031 I still use my communal sponge
@@gphilipc2031 chillin next to the poop knife
they should probably be improving electrical engines or even batteries. this today Its like improving horse carriages in 1910
Think that was when the first patent was filed. Pistons have been around since at least 300 BC the Greeks were using them and a couple of Archimedes designs used Pistons also.
That piston slap animation was terrifying
I TOTALLY AGREE! I was cringing hard...
I had a Yamaha VStar with factory forged pistons. It sounded like rod knock when it was cold idling for about 30 seconds.
2,000 miles on it.
Yeah...
B2B with Jeremiah is seriously my favorite thing on RUclips.
agreed
Yes his research and knowledge on the subject make me smarter because I am learning and the way he explains it. It’s like perfect because it’s all facts. He better be getting his cut no cap
Jeremiah : read Zeiss
German : it reads Tseiz
me: “i’m gonna pro charge my hemi and throw forged pistons in for more BOOOOOOST” *watches piston slap animation* “i think im fine being slow”
And that's why cast piston are better for daily.
Two words: low boost
@@ameunier41 a lot of old school cars had forged pistons from the factory, even in pretty mild applications. The primary advantage of casting is cost savings
That's why they recommend leaving high performance cars to idle before driving them
piston slap isnt bad you just really need to let it warm up and expand before going past like 2k rpm
Day 4 of asking James to do an Up To Speed on Donut Media.
I think they should do a tour of the Donut HQ (possibly as a B2B?)
@@nathanjoseph4284 but an up to speed is need for all new fans.
Yesss keep this going
He needs to do one in general
Up to speed on his dad, I miss the old UUUP TOO SPEEEED ON THE ....,........!¡!¡
Imagine if they also could print the engine block as well. Especially if they were able to create ducts for cooling around the rest of the engine and make it even lighter.
Don’t give them any ideas; patent it.
Its already done. Expensive machine and very expensive parts. Greatest gain is uniformity in the material.
Rodin cars. They print everything. Motor, wheels, custom seat etc
3D printed girlfriends are also changing the game
Parents said I would never get a girlfriend but here we are
I had one of those but she broke up with me
@@uselesslyopinionated8447 😂😂😂
I don't want to sound creepy, but the first time i 3D printed my first female anime figurine, i felt some thing that i cannot describe. It was way more detailed than i expected it would be. maybe that's what people feel when they ride the first train ever invented.
Still hoping for household/person to be able to manufacture machines/robots by themselves a'la Ghost in the Shell.
Imagine cybernetic salon would be just like hair salon in the future, everybody can open one.
Oh i wanna add, i can now say "the future is here old man" to my pops lol
They called me a madman......
"Forged piston are made from a billet of aluminum" video of a dude hand forging a knife lol
@@snarkylive forged pistons are not made with a hammer, they are made with molds. nobody on the planet can made pistons consistently enough with a hammer. read a book.
@@snarkylive Lets not forget Cold Metal Forging . Cold forging is a metal shaping & manufacturing process in which bar stock is inserted into a die and squeezed into a second closed die. The process, completed is at room temperature or below the metal’s recrystallization temperature to form a metal into a desired shape or configuration
A steel knife lol
@@Kevin-dt9xm ehm it showed someone using a forge. That's why.
@@Kevin-dt9xm You don't even know the definition of forging. Yes, forged pistons are made with a hammer, a very big one that is called a hydraulic press.
A few videos you should look to educate yourself since you didn't mention wich books you had read....
ruclips.net/video/Jr6qk5wCPEQ/видео.html
Here forging connecting rods
ruclips.net/video/vlLb17MEmUY/видео.html
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" - A future left out
Try harder
If it aint broke it broke later
That was a great episode. Pretty technical for most viewers so I really appreciate that you guys made this
I love donutmedia❤
same
Who doesnt?
This is freaking amazing. Huge power to weight gains. Just amazing. Good job Porsche.
Day 311 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
Found you early legend continue the fight 💯
Early commenter
YES
You’re not the subscriber we deserve but the subscriber we need
Never gonna give you up
He did the “ freaking lasers” perfectly lol
135÷24=5.625days
9:00 Timestamp
Imagine driving to work on Monday and driving full Throttle nonstop until Saturday afternoon then finally letting off the gas..... I feel like that's an insane achievement for a machine.
All I was thinking about at that point is how much fuel that took, and how many tonnes of CO2 were added to the balance sheet... Then again, it's probably standard procedure for engine manufacturers.
@@zJoriz If you compare it to the lifetime of a single car it's nothing. Better optimized parts will make cars more economical in the future wich will very rapidly rebalanced some tests.
I read this title in my notifications as “Donut Operator: 3D printed pistols are changing the game” 😂
I mean, that's true too. Honestly though, I prefer Flannel Daddy and Papa Kalash for my guntube entertainment.
Not wrong tho
They are it's called deterrence Dispensed
@@jaluek yea Ik that’s probably why I read it that way cause I’ve been watching stuff about 3D printed guns recently m
@@shred1894 whatchu know about the lord gun jesus
So dope. Imagine the gains for a motorcycle with one of these Pistons.
The acceleration on a crotch rocket will be even more insane
@@RobGcraft sport bike or super sport, not crotch rocket
Thank you for this fantastically produced and informative piece! More vids like this please 🙌 made my day
The fact that he made a switch reference gave me country childhood flash backs
10:05 Holy shit haven't heard him in while!
Gotta love classic Pumphrey
I needed that one today
Now, with 3D printed Con-Rods, 3D printer Crankshaft, 3D printed cylinder block and heads, 3D printer camshafts and 3D printed valves, or even 3D printed flywheel and Dampers, that's LA PERFECTION !
Germans are more like: if it ain’t broke design it to break soon so they have to pay you to fix it
This comment's gonna blow up
Haha perfect. Innovation sacrifices reliability and low price
Lol
only after 2000
W124 are fcking indestructible bassicly
That's the American way of designing things
This title looks like one of Scotty Kilmer
finally i found someone else pointing out that the title seems like a take on that lol
I would watch a whole video of Nolan trying to skateboard
10:07 everyone when they hear the golden catchphrase 😂
I love this, and the fact they're investing into synthetic fuels makes it even better
Same mazda also started to invest in it as well
@@christopherayala4619 pog
Koenigsegg made two cars compatible with that technology already
@@falcongamer58 that's cool
That software is for real. I've used it on drones.
All that technology and they're making pistons when they could be making a mkii ironman armor.
Yeah, like , you can 3D print you ARK reactor 😂😁🖒
@@matiasfpm just slap that taycan-battery pack on your back and you are fine ;D
We want an up to speed of James’s dad
No, we don't.
@@OneEyeDollar6 yes we do
@@nolanlembke9687 no we dont
@@DCAKAJ yes we do you heartless knife
Metal sintering rapid prototyping doesn't give the forging hardening but it allows an all-new family of metal-ceramic alloys that would be too hard to machine, too viscous to cast, and not deformable enough to be forged. in the near future, I can see turbos casing with integrated cooling channel coupled with a liquid intercooler.
They were called "Creepy Crawlers" I still remember the jingle! LOL
I hope one day they will figure out the doritos version of it.
I'd call it 3D Doritos!
I think it is pretty possible!
3-D printed rotaries could save them from extinction, just need someone crazy enough to research it.
@@ghoulbuster1 maybe! Probably we could reach even higher engine speeds than now. Possibly even 15k RPM
They should apply this technology too making an engine block and other parts like heads, intakes and transmission's.
Ten years, and piston engines will be a antique oddity
Doritos man wet dream
@@lakostem Means?
@@neeljavia2965 I think he’s talking about rotaries?
3:39 jerry used to have to pick his own switch that he would be getting ass whipped with confirmed 😂
Glad to know I wasn’t the only one
Pick the dry one so it breaks.
@@EnlightenedSavage Nah cus then they go pick one on they own 😂😂
Saw this technology applied to turbo compressors also. Made for a much lighter component with faster spool up. Therefore you guessed it more power.
10:05 IS THE FREAKIN BEST PART OF THIS VID 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Absloutley love it 😍
Imagine how much more a f1 car can rev and what all they can do with this tech
300 rpm. He said it in the video
@@kellypg F1 engines can't be compared to daily driven Porsches with reliability in mind.
old f1 engines used to do about 20,000rpm. they rev lower these days because they can make power at lower revs thanks to the turbo. also, they only have a set number of engines to last a full season, so dont stress them like they used to. i think the regulations cap the rpm to 15,000, but this is rarely if ever reached
I hope we are far from banning internal combustion vehicles, this shit is getting better and better!
"Switch off a tree...hurts like a mofo" *Vietnam flashback insues* 😭
panopoulos did it first the one with the fastest evo in the 1/4 mile
Carbon pistons from Panopoulos Racing
U are literally the best member of donut media, pls do all the videos
Yooo I almost chocked on Cheetos puffs when I saw this was uploaded.
I want to se Porsche's 3D printed pistons and koenigsegg's freevalve technology in the same engine. Someone make it happen :)
You mean Ferrari's 3D printed pistons
Look up Wesley Kagan on youtube, he's working on a DIY freevalve type valve train setup, using a Miata engine as his test platform.
@@dchamp1337 Imma check it out
"normal boys and girls like you and I."
This might be the first time I've seen this channel even acknowledge women who are into and work on cars even exist. LOL. So much so that this little statement stood out.
Nobody: that looks like my ear.
Porsche: FUCK THEY’RE ON TO US!
Waiting for D List of donut employees cars
That would be sick
I want a up to speed on Doug the demons life
That's cool that 3d printing and topographical optimization can be used to restore old cars and even make them competitive again.
"You wouldn't download a car..."
Soon...
Tons of aluminum powder must cost like a supercar. And we are on making engine piston what else.
@@StopTeoriomSpiskowym Fortunately, the surplus can be reused. BMW, for example, uses additive manufacturing (3D printing) for various parts already, like cylinder head for the S58 engine. I'm sure there's increased costs involved with investment, research and development but the parts are available in consumer-ish products so it't can't be that expensive. I think it's the time consuming process that is the biggest hurdle for reaching cost effectiveness. Just, speculating.
I think every kid who grew up getting their ass whooped as a kid laughed sadly as they remember getting the switch from the tree
I'm amazed that I never heard about this until now. It seems like a perfect use case for SLM 3D printing.
so how many pistons do you have?
**laughs in dorito**
how many doritos do ya have?
“Topological” sounds like “top” not “tope”.
Potayto, potahto. AlOOminum, Al-you-MIN-ee-um. Ha ha: Porsch, Por-SHA
THANK YOU! I was thinking the same thing EVERY time he said it!
@@smportis yeah and this is not one of those cases lmao
@@willstairs942 that's the cool thing about the internet: hearing people from all over the world speak their or your own language with their own lilt. Dawn heah in Tennessee, we says thangs awful funny sawmtimes.
@@smportis Yeah, that's great and all, but that's still not how you pronounce "topological".
It also means less waist. And recycling would be more efficient. Not to mention you wont get some of the issues with forging such as layering, air pockets, or even durability issues due to uneven cooling.
“Topological optimization” sounds like a sexual innuendo.
Every time he mispronounces "topological" take a shot
Fusion 360 had this feature available in the free version for a few months
@@asicdathens I used it during my addative manufacturing class from MIT. It's actually pretty user friendly.
@@themadmachinist8637 I know, I tried it but Autodesk's business model is prohibitive for the average amateur maker. In Europe the smallest license is like $600 / year. Switched to Freecad and not looking back. It took me like 2 months (evenings) to redesign my stuff from F360 to FC (There is a rather good topology optimization for FC as well).
The Austin powers “lasers” reference got me lifeless over hear 💀
Cool... "will it fit in my Honda?"🤪
Nolan skating is the best thing i have ever seen, thanks a lot
They are totally going to call the pistons the “PP”
Lol this is honestly underrated
No it Porsche. it will be PDPP Porsche dynamic PP
@@waldo3273 no don’t give them ideas lmao
Dynamisch Topologisch Gefertigter Kolben
DTGK
Sounds pretty good to me
@@ghoulbuster1 basedw
Porsche is already the best in the game, now getting even better. They truly make the best cars for people passionate about cars and driving.
other factory: EV
Porsche: Printed Piston
When is the new UP TO SPEED is gonna come????
Plz bring UP TO SPEED or I will put mayo in your exhausts....
Actually a greek tuning "garage" has been using different types of materials to 3d print various engine parts , if u look up "fastest evo in the world" u can check out some of their work
Ah yes let's make car parts more expensive 😂
Ahh yes, i love how i can have an engine that's expensive to fix
As a black guy when he brought up the switch off a tree. Childhood memories 🥲. This now this is why i subscribe
@@dickie8918 you ever been whipped from your granny by a switch?
Imagine porsche eventually makes entire engine that way.
It makes me so excited. Imagine how light it would be!
@Vincent James Voice Most engines already don't last 100k miles, so basically the same durability for substancial improvements in weight and performance?
I'll take it.
"Nature doesn't waste any resources"
Uh huh. Ask anyone with an appendix.
Just because scientists don't know why it exists doesn't mean it doesn't have a purpose.
Give it a few million more years and it will be gone. Noone said nature was fast when it comes to changing a design lol
Health-care student here, its a common misconception that appendix is useless, it actually stores good bacteria of digestive tract, thus more and more doctors choose to keep the appendix and treat it with antibiotics instead
@@casualcar2726 Exactly.
Y'all should be the secretary of transportation. Love you.
5 years ago I have been to a plant where they were 3d-printing motorblocks for formula 1 cars. This is the future. Even if some hacks want to abandon combustion engines.
It's sad that these advancements are being made right at the end of the internal combustion engines life. I feel like we're killing it off before it hit its peak
It isnt going anywhere soon. Its going to be around for many more years. Electric vehicles are not the clean, renewable, or as green as people want you to believe. There are serious issues with the safety and toxicity of the materials used to make them.. also untill everyone switches to truly clean power generation then its just trading one polluter for another potentially worse poluter.
@@poncoolride You evidently do not know what you are talking about and just repeat the FUD of the mainstream media. By the way Porsche is offering quite an attractive EV with the Porsche Taycan.
The idea that we could start 3D printing parts for out of production cars on demand AND drastically reduce the cost of that production AND potentially improve the performance of those parts is the glimpse at paradise we've needed this past year
Maybe someone will make a new EVO 😜
Let’s count how many times he says “Topological optimization”
And pronounced incorrectly every time!
By the time they even finish it in 10 years EVs are probably going to be twice as fast.
Still won’t have the charm or excitement of internal combustion :/
@Vincent James VoiceI mean you could argue the 0-60 point regarding any fast car, if your spending the majority of time in traffic why not drive anything else but a prius to save money on gas. But if your just doing highway pulls I honestly can see why and EV is unappealing considering your just driving in a straight line. In that case yeah the sound is half the experience as otherwise it's a pretty mindless way of driving "fast". (I'm not saying that's what you may do, but it's a majority of people's idea of going "fast")
@Vincent James Voice lol I live near semi-rural parts of Southeast Pa so I get exactly what your saying too. Honestly never would have gotten into cars as much as I did if it weren't for the covid lockdowns.
Its not a case of "if its not broken, dont fix it" its a case of technology allowing for improvement dude. The first thing i got from the thumbnail is making the piston lighter in weight and probably bringing down the cost while using less material. The lighter piston will probably have a similar result as upgrading to lighter flywheel.
I love how computers bring us closer to nature in more and more ways. it's a creepy dichotomy that may prove the theory that our next big step in evolution is an android similar species of humanity.
pls make a "up to speed : everything you need to know about Peugeot"
like if you agree 👍
aRe YoU bRiTiSh MaTe?
@@ItzDrxpshot nope m8t. if I was bri'ish I would ask for "hillman"
its not only porsche in the game of 3d printing vital car parts.
you should check Spyros Panopoylos Automotive ,which currently developes 2 hyper cars ( CHAOS and APEIRON)
and have already used 3d printed pistons fron either titanium or ceramic components or carbon fiber in the engine of the world record's EVO with 3000HP
6:21 imagine living in a world where people at around 150 pounds are moved by vehicles that weight around 3-4k pounds
And yet everyone says EV is the future...
porsche “hold our german beer”
That Porsche Taycan though. I think they just tinker and go racing.
they should probably be improving electrical engines or even batteries. this today Its like improving horse carriages in 1910
Americans from TESLA says EV. Maybe some money from this. Oh taxpayers in many EU countries paid for someone else new EV cars. And them ride old shit gasoline engine
When you say casting has less strength then forging, this has to do with how the metal is cooled down into a solid. The more slowly it cools, the more it has time to arrange into its optimal crystal structure (i.e. it develops its grain).
6:46 ohhh imagine using an electrical motor that is just spinning and does not have this problem
in 10 years there wont be any gas burning engines
@@altruismfirst6489 Porsche is also working on synthetic oil to keep combustion alive lol