I don't know if I would say really well... It would be a lot better if it was focusing more about how the software has changed and how cracking it has changed, and not 20 minutes of "X game was cracked on Y date. Z game was cracked on B date.". Maybe just talk about the first few cracks, and the record fast cracks
Valve is smartest of all publishers here. They simply said piracy is a problem of distribution and that they don't have a problem with it. And they are right. Give people a chance to own their own game and be able to purchase it at a reasonable prices and they will buy it.
This, I used to get games from 'alternative' sources till I created my steam account to get team fortress 2 for free, then I saw how fair the prices were on Valve's platform.This was 10 years ago. Now I own so many games I guess I'll never even get the chance to play.
I agree; and this is why i find gog vs steam so anoying. I cant pay too much for games and i believe that the real ppl responsible for the creation of games do rather well with games at friendly prices. There is 0 extra cost per unit sold.
@@augustasas8966 halflife, portal, tf2, dota, left for dead... Need i go on? All very well acclaimed and loved titles Look at how movie piracy plummeted with streaming services like netflix's rise. movie piracy is starting to rise again now because instead of one unified platform every production company wants to cut out the middle man so now there's loads of different streaming services. Steam and Netflix success can both be attributed to the fact consumers want one location with a low cost where they can get all the content they want conveniently. people will pay for convenience. that's been evidenced time and time again. now that everyone and their dog is trying to create their own platforms convenience is being lost and more people are turning back to piracy. DRM like denuvo which effect performance and makes playing the game a worse experience, always online issues as well. its pushing people to piracy to avoid that degradation in their game experience. If you dont want piracy you have to go the opposite route and avoid DRM and make you game convenient for people to buy, put it on platforms they already have on their computers like steam, dont try make your own thing as thats not convenient to the consumer.
Justin Hannay EA been here for longer. They come from times when game development was a goldmine. No wonder they are more successful. Yet, GOG is keepin up the pace.
It is also worth mentioning sometimes groups weren't even trying to crack the game on release because they were waiting for game to get updated first, so it is actually playable and gets the features it was missing on launch since cracking it over and over again after each update would be waste of time.
I had a serious talk about that the other day. What if games as a service e is a thing specifically to mitigate hackers cracking their stuff. If you force a game to be online, PLUS you update the game file once a month, then the code breaker will be forced to keep up with the game updates.
Piracy doesn't even significantly affect sales yet they put so much time effort and money into trying to stop it. Even though it can never be stopped, only delayed.
www.greenheartgames.com/2013/04/29/what-happens-when-pirates-play-a-game-development-simulator-and-then-go-bankrupt-because-of-piracy/ 93.6% Of day 1 players where pirates, I would call that *slightly* significant. While DRM is a problem, and it isn't a good way of dealing with piracy, piracy is still a problem.
Not into digital piracy however, the fact that 93.6% of day one players pirated the game doesn't mean the game would have sold more than the 6.4% of players that bought it irregardless, that's not to say that some or even many of those pirates wouldn't have bought the game legitimately if a cost free version weren't accessible to them, simply that we don't know either way.
@@MarikHavair that's true, but its highly unlikely that NONE of the pirates would've caved in and bought the game if it weren't free. I'm willing to bet that at least 30% would have
I'm guessing the publishers that don't remove Denuvo from their games after they get cracked are either forced to keep Denuvo by their contracts or they just don't care after the initial sales window.
Took id/Bethesda a year to remove Denuvo from DOOM, but that's still better than nothing. Most publishers just let this turd of a DRM fester in their games freely, even if it has long since failed to protect the game from pirates.
You get the game on steam which, ridiculously, also comes with uplay and a DRMs that protect the DRM that protects the game. And the shit gets cracked anyway. Can't feel my sides
4 hard walls for people who pirate the game, somehow it was breakable. And yet SOMEHOW, games was running better without the DRM. What a world we live in!
Like a hacker said in a video I watched yesterday.... These companies build complex multimillion-dollar puzzles for me to solve, of course I'm going to have fun.
Sonia Blanche I have no idea where you get that thought from. Yeah you might say that because every company in China has to follow government code in addition to laws, every company in China is controlled by the government. But that would sound like you are controlled by food because you need to eat food every day. As for why it might die, well, currently 3DM is just a company that distributes a few legit games in China, and runs some self media on other platforms. In the last decade 3DM was mainly a place to hold pirated games, cheating tools and fan translations, but the pirated software hosting got them sued by Koei. And the head of 3DM was kinda not having a good reputation among gamers because she said shit before. Hopefully that's clear enough. And by the way, in China if your hoax got reposted for more than 500 times you will go to jail. Well I guess most country does something similar but China makes it clear that it's against law to make hoaxes.
"Piracy will die" assumes that every single game that will come out today will be using denuvo (which has been cracked multiple time anyways). Very few games actually use it. Shitty AAA games aren't the only games on the market, you know.
Well not if you work for 180 euros and the game is 60... Its easy if you live in the developed country or your parents give you money to get you of their back...
Icreaka You realize that the only people who have to deal with DRM are the people who purchase it, right? The idea behind pirating is that, get this, the DRM is removed.
Pricing is unfair in my country and yet i support them because they are good to their consumers and make really good games! They also have humble beginnings and a really interesting story! Good companies should be supported and bad ones should get their shit stolen until they make changes to suit people who buy their products ;)
Rex Rip Pricing is unfair with most of games in Russia after ruined rouble course (but it's started even before), main source why people pirate stuff here. But Witcher 3 on the release was 30-40% cheaper than default 60$ product. Almost all my friends, who usually pirate singleplayer games, bought it on steam because of that.
$60 is like my whole month's meals haha. I'll never be able to pay the developers, pirated or not. But Witcher 3 was such a good game that i will buy Cyberpunk 2077 simply out of respect
There are developers that i support and i buy originals of the games that i think are worth having (witcher ,stalker ,metro. I wait for them to go to sail so i can get them for dirth cheap! Greetings from Serbia!
the only criminals are me, you and whoever used his crack to pirate a game. Using your mindset I guess every weapon manufacture is a criminal too, fuck me even butter makers are criminals since obesity is leading cause of death lol
All of this cat & mouse shenanigans just to get a small percentage of sale numbers. It's a waste of time & money. Not only that, it's a clear disadvantages to the paying customers, the very people that this publishers supposed to give a good services. DENUVO & other hard DRMs is anti consumer in the essence through & through.
At this point, companies only use it so they can say to shareholders they did the best they could and bought the best and latest software to protect their property. I think that's really the only thing that makes sense.
The thing is, it obviously works. Said "small percentage of sale numbers" seems enough to outweigh the cost of implementing these antipiracy systems, a profit margin they are willing to pursue. Reality is that the majority of consumers aren't redpilled redditors you wish them to be and they'll continue being content consuming the mediocre and substandart products of our industry.
The problem with Denuvo is that it needs a secondary token and can lose authentication while your primary DRM is still functioning as intended. I own fourteen games with Denuvo in them, thirteen of those have locked me out at least once, and every single Denuvo "protected" game has been cracked long ago but despite reports of issues with offline authentication errors they refuse to patch Denuvo out even after it has failed.
do you have any cracked software on your computer, such as a pirated copy of windows or other factors? your denuvo issues could be coming from that, but i find it funny that you defend the theives but not the hard working individuals who make the game and those trying to protect the game.
What lesson you learn today kids? "No matter how you try to avoid getting your game pirated, people who want to play for free will find their ways. So what should you do? Give better treatment to those who actually buys game from you rather planting cpu eating malwares in your fellow customer's pc."
did you every think you grow up to respect evil and insult good? just asking since you feel that it's okay to steal and free thieves and criminals. who knows, one day someone will steal from you and the criminal will go free
do you think u would grow up and understand that the idea of good and evil is childish ? but if we are gonna call it good and evil every one in the equations is evil. A lot of companies are bad for the industry ind screw over consumers cu all they care about is maximizing profit. for example i pirate games from good and bad companies but the difference is after i play a game with a good model from a good company i buy that game ( hell i dont even know how many times i have bought portal 2 for me and like 4 of my friends cuz its a great game from a company with a good business model who has a positive impact on the industry ). Mean while i have played AC origin like 2 times now and i would rather cut my dick off that give EA a dime of my money.
I am all for developers protecting their products, but DRM for your DRM's DRM might be a bit much. Steam's DRM is a good example of it done right; no noticeable performance hit, doesn't provent modding, and will never inconvenience 99% of normal uses. Also, arresting somebody for cracking DRM doesn't make sense to me. It is like arresting somebody for finding a defect in a lock. The fault lies on the one selling the defective lock and the crime is committed by the person pirating the software.
Shhhh, they will hear you. That's the point with arresting the Bulgarian guy, since he was kind of alone and not part of a big crack group. The Denuvo shits don't want to lose business so they silence anyone who points faults in their systems. Kind of communist attitude.
"protecting their products" is corporate propaganda. There is no protection to the product, there is no damage to the product. The supposed protection is for their money. Pirates don't damage the product, quite the contrary, they make it more consumer friendly often.
I really want to hear the history of hacking groups and their contribution to the cracking scene. Your harmony is simply amazing and really fits to documentary video like this. I must say I enjoyed deeply.
That's more history of games piracy (or cracks) than history of Denuvo, so the title is a bit misleading. But nevertheless a great video but somehow repetitive.
Nassim Dr. Evil I used to do that, but I eventually stopped because speeding-up started becoming bothersome, due to the audio being weird or me not being able to properly follow the video. Plus in videos with jokes, it screws with the timing of the jokes.
Its strange how they are still trying at this point. When the newest version of their DRM gets bypassed in not even a day then they are doing some pretty bad jobs i think. We need to go back to good old code tables and number disks i guess.
Code tablets mean that 10 years later you will have to recreate something online just to resell the game. I'd say bottom line is Steamworks standard mode.
During the time that 3DM announced that piracy is dead and left the scene for a bit, things looked quite bad. The solutions that some people tried were pretty damn pathetic and there were even shoddy bypasses going around that you had to pay for.
In order to get rid of piracy, you'd probably have to ban the internet lol. People will always find a way, because nothing really stops them from sharing files. With their friends or anyone online for that matter. It's only when people make a name for their self, that companies claim they are 'forced' to jump in and take action. Even then, they say that the first weeks all that matters and thats why they take these measures. So... who cares after that one week?
Used to download pirates in my teens (late 90s/early 2000s), though fortunately growing older made me realize three things: 1) it's cheaper to wait for those 2-3+ years and get a GotY edition for 10-12$ - free of any bugs and not paying the extra for DLCs that should be in the game in the first place, thus allowing for "getting through it in one go" without loosing on any content. 2) Having a few years of backlog in games allows me to run them in max settings even on such an old rig as i5 2500k and a GTX 970 in steady 30-45 fps (usually at 60 - v-synced to the viewscreen), and honestly - if a game's fun I don't really need any more shinies to enjoy it (the wow effect wears usually after first one or two evenings anyway - provided the game even lasts that long...) 3) Waiting this long results in a ton of differnet opinions from a large test group, so I can more easily skip games that I know I won't like anyway - in the past there were demos, now it's sufficient to just check the reviews around the net after that time mentioned in #1. On the other hand - I think giving that few dollars in appreciation, even after such a long time, to the creators for ther work is the least we can do. Still, a request to the "whales", fanboys and other addicts - please keep buying the games at release so the rest of us can get those worthy pieces later on anyway. Thx!
Constructive criticism, you don't have to focus on every single game that had Denuvo and was cracked, just focus on the main/interesting ones, and tell us, in story format, what happened. I was hoping to get information into who and what Denuvo is, not just as a company, but what they do and how they do it and their own impact on the communities, and then the impact that pirates have on them and vise versa, not just "oh, this happened once" and "this person said this" but something more substantial than that. Watching the video, it feels like you drone on and on saying "on , " which is boring as heck if that's all you do for 15 minutes.
One of the really scary part of DRM is developers keeping critical game fix patches on hold specifically to release them with new anti-piracy technology.
Not sure about CPY, but at least 3DM and SKIDROW are super famous. In fact 3DM have been so famous that it got sued by Koei. (3DM's website hosts cracks and sells genuine copies of several games at the same time.)
I was on an Nvidia RTX 2080 video, and your "Founders Farce: How Nvidia is delegitimizing their MSRP" video was in the recommanded tab. I guess a lot of people are browsing for Nvidia news and your videos show up on their recommanded tab as well :).
I was hoping to hear some details about how Denuvo actually works or what it actually does. Why should it impact performance? How reliant is it on the network? They say that it protects integrity, does that mean that it does lots of checksumming or similar?
@@TheDabEnthusiastGaming pirating a game isn't stealing money, it's unlicensed usage of intellectual property for personal needs, those are two VERY different things. not to mention that 99% of the time a person that pirates a game wouldn't even buy it in the first place since he can't afford the game price on his average 300$ monthly salary because he doesn't live in a rich country or is pissed off at the publisher for it's anti consumer practices.
And the employees agreed to their contracts, it's all voluntary. The CEOs work hard to earn all that money, they have to manage everything the company does, the survival of their business is down to them. Instead of demonizing successful people, we should look up to them and learn. Remember, all economical crashes have been caused by government intervention, the same institution that makes economic recovery harder and slower.
I think 3DM has been known for not being very capable of cracking games, as most of their "cracked" games were really just games with Steamworks running on normal mode (and the probably just put some effort to patch it into compatible mode and that's it). They mostly just release other team's crack on their website. The reason they stop cracking, at least for a while, might be due to their lawsuit from Koei. Another well known Chinese crack team, Ali213, seems to be able to product higher quality crack (but lower quality translation), but they've stopped cracking long ago and thus not in the Denuvo scene at all. As for the case of RiME, the dev said that they chose to put Denuvo as it's the only way to protect their game for around a month (in reality they survived 3 weeks), and most copies are sold during the first month. They promised the removal "as soon as the game has been cracked" before the game has launched. And personally, even though I no longer pirate games (besides games that are just too hard for me to track down a genuine copy and just want to check out a bit, especially GBA games and retro PC games that didn't made it to GOG), I still hate Denuvo. It made the game not playable until you can launch the game with internet connection on, aka if the internet is down after I installed the game I would have to wait until I got any internet to do the initial launch. Sometimes when misconfiguration happens it might be that I need internet to launch the game every single time. Also Denuvo is kinda a bit harsh on my 5400RPM laptop hard drive. It's a bit better than Tencent's TP plugin (used for anti-cheat) but stutter can happen more often.
remember what Capt. Price said on COD MW3 loading screen? "Overconfidence makes you careless" that news about no piracy in 2 years, but over 2 years, that claim not proven enough... Denuvo may beat 3DM from their job (from some sources), but other groups raise to against it
Once denuvo finally goes out of business many games will be unplayable and for the developers who do remove the DRM software those will be the games that would be saved. I will never buy a game using any 3rd party DRM unless the game developers remove it.
No views? No comments? Your content lately has been wonderfully crafted and I'm surprised more people aren't flooding this video after the upload notification pinged.
Steve Black I know its etymology and history quite well. Another example of the same type of unintended folly might look like, "The hysteria heard from the female activists could be heard from across the campus." I didn't mean to characterize the editor's opinion as defamatory or politicize an excerpt as anything more than a potential snafu. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
Simple, the youtube algorithms suck they will show more stupid stuff with no real information on them, like a guy being a jerk in Japan and showing dead people
Don't understand why they even used it in the first place. Denuvo doesn't even work on the Unity engine, so it's just thrown in the files as an external DLL file that you can simply replace with a non-functioning DLL.
@@Atlas_Redux ehhhm no it does work on unity. The reason they could replace the file is because it was unprotected for Linux. You cannot use denuvo there and that made this game get cracked before release
No, again, Denuvo does not work on Unity. All Unity games that "has" Denuvo needs to have it implemented as an external file. All Unity games has been easily "cracked" due to needing external executables. The engine simply does not allow for Denuvo's code to be run natively, so it calls to external executable. In Windows' case, using DLL's. And it was the DLL that was cracked, not the Linux build. Because, as you should very well know, Linux does not use DLL's and can not even run Windows executables and vice versa.
Ailith Twinning lol I already knew the crack scene was competitive without specifically knowing every single denuvo game that was ever cracked and when. It's completely unnecessary to the "historical narrative." "Interesting case study" lol poser.
Excellent rundown of Denuvo's history and the history of scene groups breaking it's protection. I can tell that a lot of time, research, and time spent on various forms went into understanding the subject matter necessary to make this video. Great job and excellent watch!
It feels so good to see people fighting to say piracy is illegal or "just get a job and buy a game" where the average wage of some countries are less than average cost of AAA games. I really wish that someday these companies will use some of their DRM money to address the this issue than just stacking DRMs over DRMs. I mean that must cost more than some country specific discounts.
I'm amazed at everybody hating on the existence of Denuvo and shouting ''Anti consumer''. You're corrupt, the anti-matter of Fifa lootboxes. The system should not tilt to benefit any one side at the detriment of others. Consumers, developers, publishers and the actual game are all important. Without such psychotic devotion to cracking games there would be no need for freaking triple layered DRM; Battering the balance like this just ruins it for everybody but the pirates. '''How dare SEGA hurt consumers when trying to stop their work being taken for free'' says the pirate. Mind blown.
just reading out numbers on end is in my eyes so bad for a video. you should have made a graph that displayed a bar for each game that showed how long denuvo lasted before it was cracked
Piracy exists due to these anti-consumer practices and/or making obtain something legitimately and "legally" extremely difficult or expensive. Pre-3DS Pokémon games are a perfect example of this. Also, Nintendo not allowing stores to sell their games for a discount price to get rid of inventory despite said games being around a decade out from initial release. Edit: The people doing some of these cracks are scummy people.
The problem isnt being able to crack, but having issues with it in windows (the aim plataform) and not being able to run these games on linux through wine, etc..
I watched before noticing the release date for this video. Where is part 2? This video is completely obsolete, a lot has changed in the cracking scene with EMPRESS being the only one left to still have a go at denuvo (sometimes.. eventually).
a history of how long it took games to get cracked is not what i was expecting. i kind of figured this was going to be about things like the claims that denuvo stole the software from another drm company, and maybe how it is impossible to quantify if having denuvo actually increases revenue for a game.
Deuvo is the reason I hate DRM in general these days (that and Steam but especially Denuvo). I simply refuse to buy any game that includes it and have simply chosen to wait for cracks and pirate the games out of spite (many of which I have yet to play to this day but I could if I wanted to with no restrictions thanks to the cracks...well other then my outdated computer hardware that is). What is the point of DRM if it's driving people to NOT buy your game as a result of it? I know I'm not the only one that feels this way about DRM in general let alone Denuvo. Long live GOG.com...and the small handful of DRM Free games on the Humble Bundle Store and other places like GameJolt (which is currently the only place you can get Underhero DRM free by the way). If not for them my computer gaming would be nothing but pirated games but it feels good to actually buy them and not have some DRM tell me I can't play it for one BS reason or another. Screw you publishers for thinking you need DRM, just make good games and sell them...you know like you used to do back when we actually cared about you. You keep complaining about how games are costing you more money to make well you could save some money by not cramming expensive DRM solutions down out throats. You want to know how many games I've pirated that are being sold on GOG.com...zero (not counting if they were released before they were on GOG.com as there were a handful I had pirated but now own thanks to GOG). Also there are games mentioned in this video I didn't even know existed as I have long since stopped paying attention to "AAA" game releases simply because I know either they are going to include draconian DRM or be butchered by the publishers adding additional monetary method in the games that will just ruin it for me and such games I don't even feel like pirating let alone buying so if they were hoping to sell to someone like me they sort of shot themselves in both feet there (DRM and micro transactions/loot boxes). Give me a game free from micro transaction (seriously crap like that is called a "free to play" model for a reason I have zero interest in that stuff if I paid up front for the game) and make it DRM free and I might open my wallet to you otherwise that thing is being welded shut and you won't see a cent from my bank account. I so need to just make a new rant video if I'm going to leave large comments like this on random videos.
Just a little thing for people that purchase these games legitimatly to think about, we are the ones that are paying for this war. Just have a little thought about that.
• All the talk of Denuvo killing game piracy reminds me of similar talk about Cinavia killing movie piracy. That sure worked /s 🙄 • Seeing all of those NFOs, what strikes me as the worst thing about all this is that game developers have become incredibly lazy and spoiled; how the hell are game so mofo huge these days? 😒 (Also, what the heck even are many of these games? 😕) • 14:20 - VMProtect 🤦 Protect your protection's protection to protect the protection that protects it. Performance ⇡↑↟⇑⇧⇫! 🙄 • 18:08 - 120MB of DRMcode? Wow, the DRM developers are even more sloppy, terrible coders than game developers.¬_¬ • 18:50 - _Sonic Mania_ was notorious for the garbage performance. Denuvo, is grrrrrrrreat, it reeeally helped the game. 👍😒 • 19:20 - Why does it feel like they sent the cops after him more for their hurt ego than for committing "cyber-crime". 🤔 • 19:24 - They confiscated "computers and other items suspected to be used" to crack the games, so… a microwave used to heat pizza while coding, the coffee-maker, the bed, the toilet, a pencil, his mouse… pretty much anything they want to steal. ¬_¬ • 19:26 - "We are focused on ensuring hackers cannot distort the gaming environment for personal gain at the expense of other players" said VP of Cybersecurity Service, Irdeto. Nothing about his statement makes sense. 🤦
I can tell that a lot of work was done researching the timeline of Denuvo, but I feel that it was presented in a very boring way. The majority of the video felt like "and then, and then, and then, etc." Maybe more could have been done to spice up the delivery and timeline a bit? Overall this wasn't a bad video, I hope you keep up the good work and continue evolving your style!
Only if they would still make demos for new games as they used to... But today they release the games in a shitty state, that no one would buy if they would have the opportunity to try it out. They even make sure you waste the first 2 hours on cinematics and character creation, so the refund policy expires.
Not sure if anyone has said this already but while I do feel that the video is very interesting I think it could feel significantly more repetitive if you didn't cover so many of the cracked games, instead the major ones which exemplify an impact could be shown to reduce the cases of 'this happened, then this happened, then this happened.' Very well researched video regardless, just wanted to point this out since I have a friend who did a similar thing in one of his videos, making it feel like it dragged on.
The only time I've ever used cracked copies of anything was when I downloaded no-cd executables for the Knights of the Old Republic games...because my DVD drive was broken.
Minimally invasive non-game breaking anti-piracy measures that don't involve DRM such as an encrypted distribution platform is the best way to counter-piracy. Steam has thwarted piracy of HL2 in its initial release in 2004. Steams Encryption algorithm is so much better than Denuvo DRM.
The way companies are combating piracy now is by going cloud based, such as Office 365 and Adobe CC. By having the software tied to an online account effectively eliminates piracy since they can verify that you actually purchased it or not. In order to pirate the software you would have to hack into the companies servers. I sure hope video game companies don't start charging a monthly fee to play their games, if so, that would be the end of gaming as we know it.
I think Denuvo had a good run for a few years at the anti-piracy game. But their monumental downfall came when their ridiculous countermeasures involved heavy amounts of bloatware which invariably slowed game performance. When word got out about that it was, quite frankly, GAME OVER for their anti-piracy algorithm. FYI: Great, informative video on this subject matter.
I bought the game, i need to "Authenticated" it on 1st run as any other game bought from Steam, to assure that i am me and that i indeed bought the game, sure man no problem. But this Cr@p wants to keep doing it FOREVER. It's been confirmed to cause issues by known game developers, not some youtuber, or random forum/reddit poster. It's needs to be re-apply with every new update (that's on the developers part) which can make a working "Denuvo" game have issues with newer updates Eg: Tekken 7. Dev's need to work "around it", remove it (see The Witcher 3) to avoid extra unnecessary work or be held hostage to it. The irony is most of the "Denuvo" protected games are mediocre at best if you think about it. It feels like a "Con" to the buyer more than anything.
I am surprised you dont have more subs, you covered this really well.
Thanks! It's been hard getting the word out, it would help a lot if you shared this with anyone who might be interested!
I don't know if I would say really well... It would be a lot better if it was focusing more about how the software has changed and how cracking it has changed, and not 20 minutes of "X game was cracked on Y date. Z game was cracked on B date.". Maybe just talk about the first few cracks, and the record fast cracks
@@OverlordGaming yeah this guy is good, just spread this video man
Reee Flex My thoughts exactly. Wasted 20 minutes and no pay off. Just an endless timeline.
really surprised high quality content my guy.
The fact they had to arrest Voksi shows how shook they were lmao.
Valve is smartest of all publishers here. They simply said piracy is a problem of distribution and that they don't have a problem with it. And they are right. Give people a chance to own their own game and be able to purchase it at a reasonable prices and they will buy it.
This, I used to get games from 'alternative' sources till I created my steam account to get team fortress 2 for free, then I saw how fair the prices were on Valve's platform.This was 10 years ago. Now I own so many games I guess I'll never even get the chance to play.
I agree; and this is why i find gog vs steam so anoying. I cant pay too much for games and i believe that the real ppl responsible for the creation of games do rather well with games at friendly prices. There is 0 extra cost per unit sold.
Ofc they dont have problems because they dont realese any games
@@augustasas8966 halflife, portal, tf2, dota, left for dead... Need i go on? All very well acclaimed and loved titles
Look at how movie piracy plummeted with streaming services like netflix's rise. movie piracy is starting to rise again now because instead of one unified platform every production company wants to cut out the middle man so now there's loads of different streaming services.
Steam and Netflix success can both be attributed to the fact consumers want one location with a low cost where they can get all the content they want conveniently. people will pay for convenience. that's been evidenced time and time again. now that everyone and their dog is trying to create their own platforms convenience is being lost and more people are turning back to piracy. DRM like denuvo which effect performance and makes playing the game a worse experience, always online issues as well. its pushing people to piracy to avoid that degradation in their game experience.
If you dont want piracy you have to go the opposite route and avoid DRM and make you game convenient for people to buy, put it on platforms they already have on their computers like steam, dont try make your own thing as thats not convenient to the consumer.
Valve has not published anything of major significance in decades.
Origin: let's double DRM everything and get players hate
GOG: let's not DRM anything and still get tons of money
And EA is still far more successful.
Justin Hannay Because players keep feeding them for doing anything, even bad.
@Justin Hannay
That is a horrible comparison!
EA was founded in 1982 while GOG was founded in 2008.
Are you a EA supporter or something?
Justin Hannay EA been here for longer. They come from times when game development was a goldmine. No wonder they are more successful. Yet, GOG is keepin up the pace.
Gog ain't even THAT successful
It is also worth mentioning sometimes groups weren't even trying to crack the game on release because they were waiting for game to get updated first, so it is actually playable and gets the features it was missing on launch since cracking it over and over again after each update would be waste of time.
I had a serious talk about that the other day. What if games as a service e is a thing specifically to mitigate hackers cracking their stuff. If you force a game to be online, PLUS you update the game file once a month, then the code breaker will be forced to keep up with the game updates.
+Zfast4y0u
Naïve.
Have you looked at Sim City ?
The Atomic Cherry sim city rings any bells?
You mean that game I played that was fun that everyone seemed to hate?
Yeah.
First austria gave us hitler, now they gave us denuvo
Mega oof
well they had to screw up sometime, denuvo ruining the perfect track record
LOL
@@theviniso me too (and I'm Jewish)
Austria also banned auto racing for long time, no wonder why Hitler moved to germany
Piracy doesn't even significantly affect sales yet they put so much time effort and money into trying to stop it. Even though it can never be stopped, only delayed.
www.greenheartgames.com/2013/04/29/what-happens-when-pirates-play-a-game-development-simulator-and-then-go-bankrupt-because-of-piracy/
93.6% Of day 1 players where pirates, I would call that *slightly* significant. While DRM is a problem, and it isn't a good way of dealing with piracy, piracy is still a problem.
Not into digital piracy however, the fact that 93.6% of day one players pirated the game doesn't mean the game would have sold more than the 6.4% of players that bought it irregardless, that's not to say that some or even many of those pirates wouldn't have bought the game legitimately if a cost free version weren't accessible to them, simply that we don't know either way.
@@MarikHavair that's true, but its highly unlikely that NONE of the pirates would've caved in and bought the game if it weren't free. I'm willing to bet that at least 30% would have
@@MarikHavair also it's 6.4%, not 7.4%
Indeed it is, believe it or not I once subtracted 200 from 400 and left myself with 100...
How to use Denuvo without pissing off people who payed for the game:
1. Remove Denuvo the day after it gets pirated
I'm guessing the publishers that don't remove Denuvo from their games after they get cracked are either forced to keep Denuvo by their contracts or they just don't care after the initial sales window.
Took id/Bethesda a year to remove Denuvo from DOOM, but that's still better than nothing. Most publishers just let this turd of a DRM fester in their games freely, even if it has long since failed to protect the game from pirates.
You get the game on steam which, ridiculously, also comes with uplay and a DRMs that protect the DRM that protects the game. And the shit gets cracked anyway. Can't feel my sides
4 hard walls for people who pirate the game, somehow it was breakable. And yet SOMEHOW, games was running better without the DRM. What a world we live in!
Any sort of DRM will be cracked FAST. People are relentless and see them as challenges.
Like a hacker said in a video I watched yesterday.... These companies build complex multimillion-dollar puzzles for me to solve, of course I'm going to have fun.
@@trsshup hey mate, i know im a year late but do you still remember the video title?
@@faizzack Honestly don't remember the videos name after this long. If i remember i will reply again.
@@trsshup netflix should make a series a bout that
What if you would make a drm for a drm for a drm for a drm?
Do more of these video on pirate backgrounds. CPY, Codex etc
Razor 1911 was THE SHIT
Are only me that thinks R.G Mechanics is the best?
R.G. Mechanics is good, but not good enough to get raided.
@@SoftBreadSoft sometimes it does'nt work and for Codex it always keep crashing at instalation😕
He should also do a vid for FitGirl’s repacks
Piracy will die in 2 years...
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAJAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Priacy won't, but 3DM might.
野龍
3DM is controlled by the chinese government, it will never die.
Sonia Blanche I have no idea where you get that thought from. Yeah you might say that because every company in China has to follow government code in addition to laws, every company in China is controlled by the government. But that would sound like you are controlled by food because you need to eat food every day.
As for why it might die, well, currently 3DM is just a company that distributes a few legit games in China, and runs some self media on other platforms. In the last decade 3DM was mainly a place to hold pirated games, cheating tools and fan translations, but the pirated software hosting got them sued by Koei. And the head of 3DM was kinda not having a good reputation among gamers because she said shit before. Hopefully that's clear enough.
And by the way, in China if your hoax got reposted for more than 500 times you will go to jail. Well I guess most country does something similar but China makes it clear that it's against law to make hoaxes.
"Piracy will die" assumes that every single game that will come out today will be using denuvo (which has been cracked multiple time anyways). Very few games actually use it. Shitty AAA games aren't the only games on the market, you know.
It will die if all games are free LOL
denuvo is a major reason to not buy a game
Thankfully we have Gog.
Or just get a job and buy a game ?
r/lostcommenters
Well not if you work for 180 euros and the game is 60... Its easy if you live in the developed country or your parents give you money to get you of their back...
Icreaka You realize that the only people who have to deal with DRM are the people who purchase it, right? The idea behind pirating is that, get this, the DRM is removed.
instead of pumping millions into DRM's they couldve pu that money towards the game they made look at CD Project Red!
Pricing is unfair in my country and yet i support them because they are good to their consumers and make really good games! They also have humble beginnings and a really interesting story! Good companies should be supported and bad ones should get their shit stolen until they make changes to suit people who buy their products ;)
Rex Rip Pricing is unfair with most of games in Russia after ruined rouble course (but it's started even before), main source why people pirate stuff here. But Witcher 3 on the release was 30-40% cheaper than default 60$ product. Almost all my friends, who usually pirate singleplayer games, bought it on steam because of that.
$60 is like my whole month's meals haha. I'll never be able to pay the developers, pirated or not. But Witcher 3 was such a good game that i will buy Cyberpunk 2077 simply out of respect
There are developers that i support and i buy originals of the games that i think are worth having (witcher ,stalker ,metro. I wait for them to go to sail so i can get them for dirth cheap! Greetings from Serbia!
60 $ is more then half of my rent...
#FreeVoksi
why free a criminal?
the only criminals are me, you and whoever used his crack to pirate a game.
Using your mindset I guess every weapon manufacture is a criminal too, fuck me even butter makers are criminals since obesity is leading cause of death lol
If only he played it like the sharks, sad for him but really angry at him at the same time.
Yeah, he had it coming
@@stormdumb
So basically don't talk about fight club?
All of this cat & mouse shenanigans just to get a small percentage of sale numbers. It's a waste of time & money. Not only that, it's a clear disadvantages to the paying customers, the very people that this publishers supposed to give a good services. DENUVO & other hard DRMs is anti consumer in the essence through & through.
At this point, companies only use it so they can say to shareholders they did the best they could and bought the best and latest software to protect their property. I think that's really the only thing that makes sense.
The thing is, it obviously works. Said "small percentage of sale numbers" seems enough to outweigh the cost of implementing these antipiracy systems, a profit margin they are willing to pursue. Reality is that the majority of consumers aren't redpilled redditors you wish them to be and they'll continue being content consuming the mediocre and substandart products of our industry.
Bjorick Completely agreed.
Most pirates are kids who have no money to buy the game in the first place. So I don't see how it hurts anyone.
Bloodrush Source please, or is this just rationalization to comfort your mind?
The problem with Denuvo is that it needs a secondary token and can lose authentication while your primary DRM is still functioning as intended.
I own fourteen games with Denuvo in them, thirteen of those have locked me out at least once, and every single Denuvo "protected" game has been cracked long ago but despite reports of issues with offline authentication errors they refuse to patch Denuvo out even after it has failed.
do you have any cracked software on your computer, such as a pirated copy of windows or other factors? your denuvo issues could be coming from that, but i find it funny that you defend the theives but not the hard working individuals who make the game and those trying to protect the game.
@@Bjorick protect the game from the customer!!!!
Bjorick Denuvo worker alert!!!!!!!!!!!
@Bjorick "defend the thieves"
Yeah, because no-ones ever been poor before.
Physically impossible.
@Bjorick look at you, poor creature, trying to be a smart and a correct person. i don't believe you, since everyone hides something. hypocrite.
What lesson you learn today kids?
"No matter how you try to avoid getting your game pirated, people who want to play for free will find their ways. So what should you do? Give better treatment to those who actually buys game from you rather planting cpu eating malwares in your fellow customer's pc."
denuvo hella gay
#FreeVoksi
did you every think you grow up to respect evil and insult good? just asking since you feel that it's okay to steal and free thieves and criminals.
who knows, one day someone will steal from you and the criminal will go free
@@Bjorick I don't think you understand why denuvo is hated.
Bjorick Denuvo fucks over paying consumers and pirates.
do you think u would grow up and understand that the idea of good and evil is childish ?
but if we are gonna call it good and evil every one in the equations is evil. A lot of companies are bad for the industry ind screw over consumers cu all they care about is maximizing profit. for example i pirate games from good and bad companies but the difference is after i play a game with a good model from a good company i buy that game ( hell i dont even know how many times i have bought portal 2 for me and like 4 of my friends cuz its a great game from a company with a good business model who has a positive impact on the industry ). Mean while i have played AC origin like 2 times now and i would rather cut my dick off that give EA a dime of my money.
@@voidofspaceandtime4684 You cant fuck over pirates when they literally steal games.
I am all for developers protecting their products, but DRM for your DRM's DRM might be a bit much. Steam's DRM is a good example of it done right; no noticeable performance hit, doesn't provent modding, and will never inconvenience 99% of normal uses.
Also, arresting somebody for cracking DRM doesn't make sense to me. It is like arresting somebody for finding a defect in a lock. The fault lies on the one selling the defective lock and the crime is committed by the person pirating the software.
Shhhh, they will hear you. That's the point with arresting the Bulgarian guy, since he was kind of alone and not part of a big crack group. The Denuvo shits don't want to lose business so they silence anyone who points faults in their systems. Kind of communist attitude.
when legit users notice there's drm, you've already lost.
"protecting their products" is corporate propaganda. There is no protection to the product, there is no damage to the product. The supposed protection is for their money. Pirates don't damage the product, quite the contrary, they make it more consumer friendly often.
no its not. its like arresting someone the just cracked fortnox and is dispersing the money.
How easily you forget that big businesses control the government. Anything that is an inconvenience to them is illegal.
I really want to hear the history of hacking groups and their contribution to the cracking scene. Your harmony is simply amazing and really fits to documentary video like this. I must say I enjoyed deeply.
I'll look into your suggestion, thank you for your support!
Great suggestion
That's more history of games piracy (or cracks) than history of Denuvo, so the title is a bit misleading. But nevertheless a great video but somehow repetitive.
Well, the video goes with the Cat & Dog chase between Pirates and Denuvo, showing the pirates' time records and Denuvo's responses.
@@MrCheesetrap I play all my videos at 1.5 speed, do you know how much time I have saved since then in my life?
Nassim Dr. Evil
I used to do that, but I eventually stopped because speeding-up started becoming bothersome, due to the audio being weird or me not being able to properly follow the video. Plus in videos with jokes, it screws with the timing of the jokes.
Yea, got real boring quick. Just named off every game that used denuvo and when it was cracked.
Denouvos history is its utter spectacular failiour.
Its strange how they are still trying at this point. When the newest version of their DRM gets bypassed in not even a day then they are doing some pretty bad jobs i think. We need to go back to good old code tables and number disks i guess.
Code tablets mean that 10 years later you will have to recreate something online just to resell the game. I'd say bottom line is Steamworks standard mode.
its funny how some of ppl think piracy is dead lol..it wont at all
During the time that 3DM announced that piracy is dead and left the scene for a bit, things looked quite bad. The solutions that some people tried were pretty damn pathetic and there were even shoddy bypasses going around that you had to pay for.
if there were no piracy, there would be no need for all this drm.....so yeah, piracy dying would be great for gamers
Bjorick Nah, they'd still place the drm down because they're cunts.
In order to get rid of piracy, you'd probably have to ban the internet lol.
People will always find a way, because nothing really stops them from sharing files.
With their friends or anyone online for that matter.
It's only when people make a name for their self, that companies claim they are 'forced' to jump in and take action.
Even then, they say that the first weeks all that matters and thats why they take these measures. So... who cares after that one week?
@@TheDabEnthusiastGaming you'd have to ban the internet and personal contact lmeo
"Piracy will die out in two years." Oh honey.
OH HONEY
Empress just cracked Hogwarts legacy
Used to download pirates in my teens (late 90s/early 2000s), though fortunately growing older made me realize three things:
1) it's cheaper to wait for those 2-3+ years and get a GotY edition for 10-12$ - free of any bugs and not paying the extra for DLCs that should be in the game in the first place, thus allowing for "getting through it in one go" without loosing on any content.
2) Having a few years of backlog in games allows me to run them in max settings even on such an old rig as i5 2500k and a GTX 970 in steady 30-45 fps (usually at 60 - v-synced to the viewscreen), and honestly - if a game's fun I don't really need any more shinies to enjoy it (the wow effect wears usually after first one or two evenings anyway - provided the game even lasts that long...)
3) Waiting this long results in a ton of differnet opinions from a large test group, so I can more easily skip games that I know I won't like anyway - in the past there were demos, now it's sufficient to just check the reviews around the net after that time mentioned in #1.
On the other hand - I think giving that few dollars in appreciation, even after such a long time, to the creators for ther work is the least we can do. Still, a request to the "whales", fanboys and other addicts - please keep buying the games at release so the rest of us can get those worthy pieces later on anyway. Thx!
You only have 500 subscribers!? What the heck? Excellent content, you deserve way more views & subs!
Thank you so much! It's been hard getting the word out, please share them if you can, it would help me out so much! :D
Overlord Gaming Holy shit you went from 500 to almost 5k in a month good on you
Bruh, it's been 4 years now, we NEED an updated video of this, 10/10
"The history of Denuvo"
Man reads when things were pirated and cracked chronologically for 20 minutes.
Constructive criticism, you don't have to focus on every single game that had Denuvo and was cracked, just focus on the main/interesting ones, and tell us, in story format, what happened. I was hoping to get information into who and what Denuvo is, not just as a company, but what they do and how they do it and their own impact on the communities, and then the impact that pirates have on them and vise versa, not just "oh, this happened once" and "this person said this" but something more substantial than that. Watching the video, it feels like you drone on and on saying "on , " which is boring as heck if that's all you do for 15 minutes.
Good job man! This took a lot of research and time, i can tell. Keep it up, my man!
Thanks so much! It's been difficult spreading the word, please share if you can, it would help a lot! :D
@@OverlordGaming Hi!
This is a 20 minute video with dates when games where cracked.
Yeah but he has an Australian accent so it's bearable
I used this video to help myself fall asleep. The voice is alright and the content is mind numbing.
Yeah, really boring shit. I thought it would have more information about the cracking methods, not just list of games that were cracked.
One of the really scary part of DRM is developers keeping critical game fix patches on hold specifically to release them with new anti-piracy technology.
I'd like to thank Denuvo for making so many games free to download and exposing me to so much good synthwave music
Do you know what website is on at 11:59?
How you said "Fractured But Whole" made my day.
That's how you're supposed to say it... They knew what they were doing with that title! lol
Great video! Not many have balls to even mention the group names in their materials but hey, THIS is reality ;) Keep it up!
Not sure about CPY, but at least 3DM and SKIDROW are super famous. In fact 3DM have been so famous that it got sued by Koei. (3DM's website hosts cracks and sells genuine copies of several games at the same time.)
Do you know what website is on at 11:59?
@@FlameRat_YehLonDo you know what website is on at 11:59?
Great work and research. You have gone beyond what was necessary. Thank you.
we demand More such videos, thank you!
Working on the next one right now, please share my videos if you can to spread the word, it would help a lot! :D
Hey, have you heard of starforce? It is russian denuvo from early 2000s. It was even shittier than denuvo.
It's mentioned in the video
Starforce is fucking cancer
DRM only exists to punish you for giving these companies money.
Lol, the guys pirating these games have some good art. :)
*****cracking
You currently have 70k subs but in the video you had 90. Glad you got attention for this content.
At the start of 2021, I had 70.2k subscribers. RUclips is unsubscribing my subscribers without their knowledge and hiding my videos from them.
Hello, I found your channel yesterday and i just wanted to thank you for the great content ! Keep up the good work !
Thanks so much! :D
Can I ask how you found it? I've been wondering where new watchers are coming from :D
I was on an Nvidia RTX 2080 video, and your "Founders Farce: How Nvidia is delegitimizing their MSRP" video was in the recommanded tab.
I guess a lot of people are browsing for Nvidia news and your videos show up on their recommanded tab as well :).
great work ... you deserve more views
Thank you!
I was hoping to hear some details about how Denuvo actually works or what it actually does. Why should it impact performance? How reliant is it on the network? They say that it protects integrity, does that mean that it does lots of checksumming or similar?
Subbed..Ty for this video-liked it very much..Too bad for Voksi :( I knew he was kind of hero on Crackwatch but didnt realise how big! #FreeVoksi
That guy who was cracking it did nothing wrong!!
Young Dabber Cracking a game is not illegal, pirating a game is illegal. Moron.
I mean what can I expect from a guy named young dabber.
Oh god I hate people that use subreddits in youtube comments. Anyways No there was no way for me to tell that you already know that from your reply.
Piracy is ilegal tho
@@TheDabEnthusiastGaming pirating a game isn't stealing money, it's unlicensed usage of intellectual property for personal needs, those are two VERY different things. not to mention that 99% of the time a person that pirates a game wouldn't even buy it in the first place since he can't afford the game price on his average 300$ monthly salary because he doesn't live in a rich country or is pissed off at the publisher for it's anti consumer practices.
Remember folks the CEOs earn more than all employees combined. Your money goes into their cars and yachts..
And the employees agreed to their contracts, it's all voluntary. The CEOs work hard to earn all that money, they have to manage everything the company does, the survival of their business is down to them. Instead of demonizing successful people, we should look up to them and learn. Remember, all economical crashes have been caused by government intervention, the same institution that makes economic recovery harder and slower.
@@vladimirdan1959
CEOs work hard?
BAHAHAHAHAHAA! 😂🤣😂
press F for Voksi
I think 3DM has been known for not being very capable of cracking games, as most of their "cracked" games were really just games with Steamworks running on normal mode (and the probably just put some effort to patch it into compatible mode and that's it). They mostly just release other team's crack on their website. The reason they stop cracking, at least for a while, might be due to their lawsuit from Koei. Another well known Chinese crack team, Ali213, seems to be able to product higher quality crack (but lower quality translation), but they've stopped cracking long ago and thus not in the Denuvo scene at all.
As for the case of RiME, the dev said that they chose to put Denuvo as it's the only way to protect their game for around a month (in reality they survived 3 weeks), and most copies are sold during the first month. They promised the removal "as soon as the game has been cracked" before the game has launched.
And personally, even though I no longer pirate games (besides games that are just too hard for me to track down a genuine copy and just want to check out a bit, especially GBA games and retro PC games that didn't made it to GOG), I still hate Denuvo. It made the game not playable until you can launch the game with internet connection on, aka if the internet is down after I installed the game I would have to wait until I got any internet to do the initial launch. Sometimes when misconfiguration happens it might be that I need internet to launch the game every single time.
Also Denuvo is kinda a bit harsh on my 5400RPM laptop hard drive. It's a bit better than Tencent's TP plugin (used for anti-cheat) but stutter can happen more often.
Well Rime want to protect, so i dont blame, and 3 weeks i kinda close i would say
Very interesting videos in your channel subscribed
Denuvo games lived in Harmony and prosperity, but the Steampunks attacked
How long do you guys think it'll take for the scene to crack Borderlands 3? My bet is two weeks
remember what Capt. Price said on COD MW3 loading screen?
"Overconfidence makes you careless"
that news about no piracy in 2 years, but over 2 years, that claim not proven enough...
Denuvo may beat 3DM from their job (from some sources), but other groups raise to against it
Like the Hydra cut off one head 2(or more likely 10)more shall rise and take its place
Vote with your wallet.
I just love CPY's descriptions for the "kind" of game in their release notes
Do you know what website is on at 11:59? Also what description? I only saw RPG which is just a normal genre.
Once denuvo finally goes out of business many games will be unplayable and for the developers who do remove the DRM software those will be the games that would be saved.
I will never buy a game using any 3rd party DRM unless the game developers remove it.
No views? No comments? Your content lately has been wonderfully crafted and I'm surprised more people aren't flooding this video after the upload notification pinged.
Thank you so much! :D
Steve Black I know its etymology and history quite well. Another example of the same type of unintended folly might look like, "The hysteria heard from the female activists could be heard from across the campus." I didn't mean to characterize the editor's opinion as defamatory or politicize an excerpt as anything more than a potential snafu. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
Simple, the youtube algorithms suck they will show more stupid stuff with no real information on them, like a guy being a jerk in Japan and showing dead people
They just removed denuvo from two point hospital!!
Don't understand why they even used it in the first place. Denuvo doesn't even work on the Unity engine, so it's just thrown in the files as an external DLL file that you can simply replace with a non-functioning DLL.
@@Atlas_Redux ehhhm no it does work on unity. The reason they could replace the file is because it was unprotected for Linux. You cannot use denuvo there and that made this game get cracked before release
No, again, Denuvo does not work on Unity. All Unity games that "has" Denuvo needs to have it implemented as an external file. All Unity games has been easily "cracked" due to needing external executables. The engine simply does not allow for Denuvo's code to be run natively, so it calls to external executable. In Windows' case, using DLL's. And it was the DLL that was cracked, not the Linux build. Because, as you should very well know, Linux does not use DLL's and can not even run Windows executables and vice versa.
19:22 so how did he get caught? Did he not use a vpn for his tracks? Someone shed some light please so many questions
Admiral Blahaha I believe this more than bjorick’s story.
Should've used incognito tab
That's why this video sucks. 20 mins of dates that games were cracked and no history.
Ailith Twinning lol I already knew the crack scene was competitive without specifically knowing every single denuvo game that was ever cracked and when. It's completely unnecessary to the "historical narrative."
"Interesting case study" lol poser.
Bjorick All of your comments have been autistic. Please, just go play in traffic.
Excellent rundown of Denuvo's history and the history of scene groups breaking it's protection. I can tell that a lot of time, research, and time spent on various forms went into understanding the subject matter necessary to make this video. Great job and excellent watch!
I just found your channel and I love it! Keep up the good work
I expected u to have like 200k with the video quality. This is really good.
how is this the history of denuvo. This is just a list of games shipped with it
I just heard about Denuvo Anti-Cheat on Doom Eternal and decided to learn about what Denuvo is. Thanks for the vid
Hackers like challenges! : D
Funny thing since the 80s that piracy/sharing exists hardcore, the will to play surpasses anything devs can throw at us!
It feels so good to see people fighting to say piracy is illegal or "just get a job and buy a game" where the average wage of some countries are less than average cost of AAA games. I really wish that someday these companies will use some of their DRM money to address the this issue than just stacking DRMs over DRMs. I mean that must cost more than some country specific discounts.
Anyone here from Doom Eternal's May 15th 2020 update.
This really isn't a history of Denuvo it's more of a 20 minute rambling list of games that had Denuvo and the date they was cracked.
oh, what's this? a smashed sub button mysteriously flew your way.
Thanks! :D
Sonic Origins game is what made me look this up. Its ridiculous how hard it is to have this game to run, despite it being based on old games
I am really against piracy of games because the devolepers behind it took much time to make it but I LOVE to see ppl f*cking with denuvo
I'm amazed at everybody hating on the existence of Denuvo and shouting ''Anti consumer''. You're corrupt, the anti-matter of Fifa lootboxes. The system should not tilt to benefit any one side at the detriment of others. Consumers, developers, publishers and the actual game are all important. Without such psychotic devotion to cracking games there would be no need for freaking triple layered DRM; Battering the balance like this just ruins it for everybody but the pirates. '''How dare SEGA hurt consumers when trying to stop their work being taken for free'' says the pirate.
Mind blown.
just reading out numbers on end is in my eyes so bad for a video. you should have made a graph that displayed a bar for each game that showed how long denuvo lasted before it was cracked
Piracy exists due to these anti-consumer practices and/or making obtain something legitimately and "legally" extremely difficult or expensive.
Pre-3DS Pokémon games are a perfect example of this. Also, Nintendo not allowing stores to sell their games for a discount price to get rid of inventory despite said games being around a decade out from initial release.
Edit: The people doing some of these cracks are scummy people.
Video game piracy makes for a great spectator sport.
Repeat this a whole bunch of times: "Title X was cracked within Y days. " ... and that sums up this video.
Me here after Death Stranding crack...
*actually found quite a list of games to play thanks to this video.*
The problem isnt being able to crack, but having issues with it in windows (the aim plataform) and not being able to run these games on linux through wine, etc..
I watched before noticing the release date for this video. Where is part 2? This video is completely obsolete, a lot has changed in the cracking scene with EMPRESS being the only one left to still have a go at denuvo (sometimes.. eventually).
The video is good but all the lists of "on december 6 blah blah blah" is just too much. Get to the point please. Talk about Denuvo
a history of how long it took games to get cracked is not what i was expecting. i kind of figured this was going to be about things like the claims that denuvo stole the software from another drm company, and maybe how it is impossible to quantify if having denuvo actually increases revenue for a game.
Deuvo is the reason I hate DRM in general these days (that and Steam but especially Denuvo). I simply refuse to buy any game that includes it and have simply chosen to wait for cracks and pirate the games out of spite (many of which I have yet to play to this day but I could if I wanted to with no restrictions thanks to the cracks...well other then my outdated computer hardware that is). What is the point of DRM if it's driving people to NOT buy your game as a result of it? I know I'm not the only one that feels this way about DRM in general let alone Denuvo. Long live GOG.com...and the small handful of DRM Free games on the Humble Bundle Store and other places like GameJolt (which is currently the only place you can get Underhero DRM free by the way). If not for them my computer gaming would be nothing but pirated games but it feels good to actually buy them and not have some DRM tell me I can't play it for one BS reason or another. Screw you publishers for thinking you need DRM, just make good games and sell them...you know like you used to do back when we actually cared about you. You keep complaining about how games are costing you more money to make well you could save some money by not cramming expensive DRM solutions down out throats. You want to know how many games I've pirated that are being sold on GOG.com...zero (not counting if they were released before they were on GOG.com as there were a handful I had pirated but now own thanks to GOG). Also there are games mentioned in this video I didn't even know existed as I have long since stopped paying attention to "AAA" game releases simply because I know either they are going to include draconian DRM or be butchered by the publishers adding additional monetary method in the games that will just ruin it for me and such games I don't even feel like pirating let alone buying so if they were hoping to sell to someone like me they sort of shot themselves in both feet there (DRM and micro transactions/loot boxes). Give me a game free from micro transaction (seriously crap like that is called a "free to play" model for a reason I have zero interest in that stuff if I paid up front for the game) and make it DRM free and I might open my wallet to you otherwise that thing is being welded shut and you won't see a cent from my bank account. I so need to just make a new rant video if I'm going to leave large comments like this on random videos.
...you realize that then your the problem, you create what you hate.
Just a little thing for people that purchase these games legitimatly to think about, we are the ones that are paying for this war. Just have a little thought about that.
• All the talk of Denuvo killing game piracy reminds me of similar talk about Cinavia killing movie piracy. That sure worked /s 🙄
• Seeing all of those NFOs, what strikes me as the worst thing about all this is that game developers have become incredibly lazy and spoiled; how the hell are game so mofo huge these days? 😒 (Also, what the heck even are many of these games? 😕)
• 14:20 - VMProtect 🤦 Protect your protection's protection to protect the protection that protects it. Performance ⇡↑↟⇑⇧⇫! 🙄
• 18:08 - 120MB of DRMcode? Wow, the DRM developers are even more sloppy, terrible coders than game developers.¬_¬
• 18:50 - _Sonic Mania_ was notorious for the garbage performance. Denuvo, is grrrrrrrreat, it reeeally helped the game. 👍😒
• 19:20 - Why does it feel like they sent the cops after him more for their hurt ego than for committing "cyber-crime". 🤔
• 19:24 - They confiscated "computers and other items suspected to be used" to crack the games, so… a microwave used to heat pizza while coding, the coffee-maker, the bed, the toilet, a pencil, his mouse… pretty much anything they want to steal. ¬_¬
• 19:26 - "We are focused on ensuring hackers cannot distort the gaming environment for personal gain at the expense of other players" said VP of Cybersecurity Service, Irdeto. Nothing about his statement makes sense. 🤦
I can tell that a lot of work was done researching the timeline of Denuvo, but I feel that it was presented in a very boring way. The majority of the video felt like "and then, and then, and then, etc." Maybe more could have been done to spice up the delivery and timeline a bit? Overall this wasn't a bad video, I hope you keep up the good work and continue evolving your style!
Only if they would still make demos for new games as they used to... But today they release the games in a shitty state, that no one would buy if they would have the opportunity to try it out. They even make sure you waste the first 2 hours on cinematics and character creation, so the refund policy expires.
Not sure if anyone has said this already but while I do feel that the video is very interesting I think it could feel significantly more repetitive if you didn't cover so many of the cracked games, instead the major ones which exemplify an impact could be shown to reduce the cases of 'this happened, then this happened, then this happened.' Very well researched video regardless, just wanted to point this out since I have a friend who did a similar thing in one of his videos, making it feel like it dragged on.
Nice work man , i will watch every single video of your channel ♥ #respect #freeVOKSi
Thank you so much! It's been hard getting the word out, so it would mean a great deal if you shared the video if you can :D
To summarize this video:
Denuvo can take anywhere between 1 day or a few months to crack.
In most cases it takes months and sometimes years. Some games never got cracked to this date
The only time I've ever used cracked copies of anything was when I downloaded no-cd executables for the Knights of the Old Republic games...because my DVD drive was broken.
Wow, what a cool guy.
It was just to play the game without the disc. I still own multiple copies of both games, to this day.
Minimally invasive non-game breaking anti-piracy measures that don't involve DRM such as an encrypted distribution platform is the best way to counter-piracy. Steam has thwarted piracy of HL2 in its initial release in 2004. Steams Encryption algorithm is so much better than Denuvo DRM.
Denuvo had the police arrest someone.
The way companies are combating piracy now is by going cloud based, such as Office 365 and Adobe CC. By having the software tied to an online account effectively eliminates piracy since they can verify that you actually purchased it or not. In order to pirate the software you would have to hack into the companies servers.
I sure hope video game companies don't start charging a monthly fee to play their games, if so, that would be the end of gaming as we know it.
Those programs you mention are already cracked. I got all the Adobes CCs for my multimedia stuff because I'm not paying hundreds for em. 😂
Love those denuvo vids, keep up the great job.
I think Denuvo had a good run for a few years at the anti-piracy game. But their monumental downfall came when their ridiculous countermeasures involved heavy amounts of bloatware which invariably slowed game performance. When word got out about that it was, quite frankly, GAME OVER for their anti-piracy algorithm. FYI: Great, informative video on this subject matter.
what site you used that it would flag games nuked and stuff like that
Vanc Lucian same guestion
Yeah, what does "nuked" even mean?
same question!?
@@busteraycan Bad scene release.
Very interesting video. Impressive that they managed to crack these things.
I bought the game, i need to "Authenticated" it on 1st run as any other game bought from Steam, to assure that i am me and that i indeed bought the game, sure man no problem. But this Cr@p wants to keep doing it FOREVER.
It's been confirmed to cause issues by known game developers, not some youtuber, or random forum/reddit poster.
It's needs to be re-apply with every new update (that's on the developers part) which can make a working "Denuvo" game have issues with newer updates Eg: Tekken 7. Dev's need to work "around it", remove it (see The Witcher 3) to avoid extra unnecessary work or be held hostage to it.
The irony is most of the "Denuvo" protected games are mediocre at best if you think about it. It feels like a "Con" to the buyer more than anything.