I can't believe that I've just spent the best part of half an hour watching a video about cars... Being a once proud driver of a Citroën DS19, I was of course enticed by the title, but I stayed for the beautifully crafted script, delivered in soft dulcet tones. The perfect blend of history, mechanics, corporate intrigue, and design means that at no point does the storyline get too complicated and the intrigue continues to the final "tears in the rain". There are some lovely lyrical gems throughout and, living (and driving) in France, I loved that "the French are famously fond of heavy oil". Thank you so much for all the work you've put in to making such a delightful video masterpiece. A great start to the day.
I own a ‘75 CX2200 which has been garaged for two years now because I accidentally put one of the spark plugs in at an angle, stripping the threads and completely losing motivation. This type of content is exactly what I need to continue working on my black beauty!
Thank you for covering Classic Citroën, I used to work at a shop in Los Angeles that specialized in the SM. My boss, Jerry Hathaway, was close friends with Jay Leno. I got to ride in/work on Jay’s Citroëns many times, and see his collection on numerous occasions.
I was expecting to see Jerry and perhaps his SM at the 100 years of Citroën in 2019 but hopelessly, I didn't know he was at the end of his life... and when I finaly met his SM, it had been sold 😢
I very happily and guilt free, drive my CX 2500 Diesel on a daily base here in Vancouver BC. It runs on Bio-Diesel. No other car comes close as far as comfort goes, plus the mileage is incredible. It gets more thumbs up than one can shake a stick at. The "Tears in the rain" , beautiful. To all people involved putting this together, very well done, Thanks and a happy 2025. Talking about tears, the valley of tears called "Stellantis" should be helped out of its misery.
That was an absolutely exquisite tribute! My parents had the Gs as a car for my mum and then me and I passed my driving test in the GS! What was even more impressive was the fact that, when our boats 8 man life raft had to be serviced! We could get it in the boot of the GS comfortable and I drove it down the place for servicing! I totally agree with your last words! That was eloquently said! Bravo! It is a shame that manufactures wont take the plunge on such a gorgeous design ever again! In fact our Belgian friends had the previous model and that was just as comfortable to ride in!
The CX was, and remains a work of art. Personally I prefer it to the DS - the modernity that the CX exhibits is stark, pure and stunning. There’s nothing left to mere style with the CX. Citroen as a car maker has struggled to better the CX. And it never will better the CX.
Frenchman here. Once upon a time was a brand, Citroën, that used to manufacture special, some of them exceptional, cars with a strong identity. Unfortunately nowadays Citroën is just another brand of the Stellantis group that manufactures cars like umpteen others in this bland new world of bulky look-alikes. RIP the real Citroëns of the past.
I grew up in the 60s and after with the DS, took my driving test in a 1969 ID19, so spent a lot of time with them, to the point that in 1980 I bought a lovely DS23 and thought it would be my last car. Then, six months later I test drove a CX, on a whim. It was a 1976 2000 with manual steering (in Germany), and I fell in love. Sold the DS to my younger brother (who'd totaled is DS a few months earlier - idiot) and have not looked back. Quieter, faster, and IMO more comfortable than the DS. Especially with traffic today the CX is still perfectly capable whereas the DS is less so, I don't like the armchair seating of the DS anymore. That said, I have a friend who has a passion for the DS, to the point he installed a CX Turbo engine in one of his DSs and it transforms the car. But every time I get into the CX I'm home, perfect ergos for me.
CX + Vangelis= poetry in motion. I never get tired of seeing those very last real Citroen, alien animals created by risky minds in the middle of a sea of shoe boxes with four wheels. My dad had two/three of them in a row: GS, GSA and... a BX, which I consider the very-very last Citroen, the last attempt to keep the lineage. I thought the real reason he never had a CX was because it didn't fit in his garage space, not for money issues😀 Thanks for the video and sorry for my bad english.
A gentleman with good taste! BX was a phenomenally good product, and won lots of friends in the UK. Not just in the fleet market, but among retail customers as well...
That was a fantastic episode, really well made with excellent use of familiar clips and fresh footage. All were delivered at a relaxing pace without being overbearing or bludgeoning with technicalities. Bravo!
Exceptionally well presented and narrated story line. As the current owner of a DS 21 Pallas (of course in LHD) with the semi auto gearbox, and as the previous owner of a CX25 DTR Turbo 2, I can only concur with ALL your comments. I miss the CX, it was a great car as well as the DS is a great car. PSA just now make 'Cars' no soul, no heritage and no distinction, such a shame we have all lost the design flair to enter a world of modernism. Just take a look at St Pancras Station and any of the new stations that have been built in the last 50 years, anyone got a ruler and a set square? Well done again on this little presentation, a worthy watch, thank you!
Very thorough CX review. Having progressed from my first car in Australia of an Aussie assembled 1962 ID19 thru D Super and DS21 & 23 EFIs plus GSs to my pinnacle. A 1978 to RHD CX2400 EFI Prestige 5 speed with Paris delivery, a year in the UK, 5 months touring Europe before shipment home to Australia. Brilliant machine.
My mother had the CX 'Super 2200 D', super smooth ride for long voyages. As a side note, the GS is still to this day, the most sought after car by pilots. It is said that " you don't drive a CX/GS, you pilot them "!
Sir, Beautifully done, both technically and artistically. You should be very proud of your production, as well as your well researched discourse on the CX, it's origins and history. Your delivery is exemplary. Something very rare nowadays. You convey so much in so few words, and your pronunciation is perfect. We share your opinion that modern cars are increasingly just anodyne and bland little euroboxes for equally faceless consumers. What a shame. I recall the idiosyncratic cars of the 70s and 80s, their brio and panache did so abound. Don't forget Volvo's involvement in the lovely Duvrin V6. Then again, I'm slightly biased in that regard, with a brace of P2s in the stable! Wishing you and all of our fellow car lovers a very merry, and peaceful Christmas. Your friend. MP
CX PRESTIGE and Safari have the same wheelbase as the DS at 123 inches. The 2.5 turns lock to lock speed sensitive power self centring steering and longerons partial subframe on rubber mounts and sportier handling a lower seating position made the CX a true driver's car. The pod controls were the best fingertip control system of any car, combined with the DIRAVI steering, quietness, rear room of Prestige and larger boot meant I Preferred my CX Prestige to my various DSs.. The one thing missing was the DS turning headlights... The sporty V6 that ended up in the Xantia would have given both DS and CX the engine they deserved.
A stunning car but even more impressive is the filmography. It makes the car even more impressive Would love to see more vids like this! Keep up the good work!!!
Thanx for an awesome video and insightful comments. I bought a 1982 Prestige RHD - they were imported in small batches to the country where I reside. I bought it purely for studying its design. Ok… to be honest - my obsession!
Thank you for a lovely and thoughtful history and video of one of the two cars I ever owned that are firmly fixed in my memory as having been an absolute joy to own and drive. Both totally different I must add. I now cannot remember the exact date when I acquired my CX Athena but I know for sure I was still running it in 1984 because that’s when we moved to a new home and ‘she’ moved with us. The Athena came to me as a low mileage used car from a Bradford dealer named, I think, Jack Andrews. As I recall, I retained it for about four years during which it served as a working car and a family transport. During that time, our son was competing in what was then the Junior Britain 100cc Kart racing and the Athena was our transport for both the Kart and all the essential bits and pieces to support competition racing. With the Kart’s engine and rear wheels removed, the Kart chassis fitted comfortably in the Athena boot surrounded by lots of ‘clutter’ and the rear passenger seats served as useful storage for a large compartmentalised fibre box containing a myriad of spares and tools. Almost every weekend for several years the Athena served us admirably as we dashed (no questions asked about speed limits) up and down the A1 to various tracks around Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire too, as well as crossing the Pennine to the fabulous Three Sisters circuit near Ashton in Makerfield. Athena never missed a beat. Additionally, I even pulled a quite large horse trailer to take our daughter and horse to various local equestrian events, but it has to be said Athena was near to her practical limits, albeit that fabulous suspension coped well at all times. Yes, that suspension! We made many journeys to France in that car to visit my late wife’s family and for touring holidays too and it was guaranteed that frequently I would be the only occupant not asleep - thankfully! The end to my ownership sadly came as a result of a strange quirk that developed which our local Citroen dealer failed to cure. The engine would suddenly start to fade and lose power. If I stopped and turned off the engine for a few moments the fault disappeared and the engine ran fine again but that was somewhat unnerving. I eventually sold the car to a garage mechanic who was sure he could fix it but I never learned if he cured the ailment. Many years later when chatting with a great Citroen enthusiast he told me the most probably cause was slackening of the cylinder head studs as that had happened with a CX he had owned and it was cured by re-torquing of the studs. I’ve never verified that. The other memorable car came much later. A Subaru Impreza Turbo, but that was an entirely different beast and a quite different story.
The CX is just beautiful. I remember when it first was shown in Norway in 75. Very different from the DS, but it's still a work of elegant, timeless cardesign 👌
Having owned and driven Cits for some 60 years (currently have 3 hydraulic cars, 72 DS21Pallas, 69 ID21 Break and a 91 XM) it is nice to see a tribute to the CX. Just a couple of comments. DRAVI steering - was never available in the D series. Fun fact - the original specs called for a 1 turn lock to lock - that was however, as one test driver put it 'just a wee bit to quick' and given that both the D and SM had just a bit over 86° swing lock to lock, easy to understand why. Steering geometry - D's and SM's had what was called 'centerline steering'. IOW the actual point of wheel rotation is in the exact center of the rim/tire. Later car were not so designed. SW vs. Sedan rear suspension. Yes, the rear arms are a bit different due to the greater weight anticipated. However the major difference is with the rear suspension spheres. SW units have higher internal pressure as well as modified flow restriction valve. True for both D and CX.
Had a cx2000 in white for a short period - very comfortable and fantastic on the motorway - loved this piece very well researched and interesting - bravo
Citroën was one of the top interesting car companies. In my opinion, they did not really make beautiful cars though, except for the traction avant, but nevertheless I would gladly like to own a good DS, CX or 2CV. Very nice and infomative video!
CX isn't just the French term for Cd (Coefficient of drag): it's the Cd in the X direction. Citroen were also concerned about the Cd in the Y direction, too, which, thanks to the concave rear window and forward centre of gravity, made the CX stable in cross-winds (ie. wind from the Y direction).
Great video. Great car, the Cx. I own a GTi model. that thing is exquisite. I love it to bits, it's the best ar I ever had yet the oldest by a considerable margin. At 40 years, it has been reliable and troublefree. Citroen made some of the best production cars
I agree that the CX was a worthy successor to the DS. It did many things better than the DS and continued innovations that really worked. In Australia Dad had a 1977 CX2400 carbie CMatic and I shipped my 1978 CX2400 EFI Prestige home in 1979.. The CX was so much quieter and faster than the DS. Did not suffer the heat in the cabin of the DS mid engine close to driver and passenger. But all that glass means it became very hot when parked... DS had fantastic fresh air ventilation with rammed intakes in the front bumper. CX had a bulge in the bonnet and small vent outlets feeble airflow. The Aussie spec 2400 was burdened with anti-pollution gear, plus C Matic and air-conditioning sucked performance.
Hi. I have always liked French cars. Especially the Citroen ID / DS models. The DS was replaced on the production line by the lovely CX car. A very advanced car in style too , with its futuristic design. Although probably a little too large in size by today's standards.
I had a CX2400 back in the day but lost it when that spare tyre in the engine bay caught fire and destroyed the car. A superb car and just so comfortable to drive. As was said a great loss.
Great video. I’m going to commit automotive sacrilege here and say I much prefer the later models with the plastic bumpers. They’re stylistically more modern and the interiors are better resolved. Plus the advertising was peak 80s and obviously …… turbos. Not to put down the earlier cars which were still pretty cool especially with the buttoned armchair interiors.
Pretty good video about the CX. I'd have preferred a cleaner car for much of the video, and one in better condition overall, but you got your point across. Nice attempts at making the video more artful although at times the audio suffered in the bar you used. Good on you, there is so much you could cover but you selected well. You obviously have a love for the car and it shows. I share that love, owning six at this point. I do wonder where this nonsense about "speedfeel" for the steering description in the US comes from, the CX was never officially sold here. I'll have to look at my CXA brochures to see if they used that term, but that's a minor quibble.
The perils of filming in December unfortunately! I think I read about the speedfeel in my Citrovisie book, but I would be interested to see if indeed it appears in the American CXA advertising!
My CX 2.5 TRI was the most comfortable car i ever had. I agree that the DS was a very beautyful car. Especial the Henri Chapron cars. But for me it come second after the Alfa Romeo stepnose coupe. I am happy to have one of those in my garage (69 Gt1300 Junior). But i will always have place for a DS. Great channel this. Just discovered it. 👌🏻
Not every LWB CX was built with a vinyl roof cover: this was standard on the Prestige but could be deleted. The Limousine was standard without vinyl. The contours of the roof panel of very early CX Prestige look almost the same as those of the roof panel of a standard wheelbase car; I do not know if this early roof panel was constructed of two panels welded together or if it was a different pressing in one piece. Later Prestige and Limousine have a taller roof shape (more headroom) which is a different pressing.
Great video/text, however Jaguar with Dunlop (tyres) financial & technical assistance collaborated in great secrecy to create the disc brake as we know it. It was technically developed in the D-type race program and was offered with NO initial cost to the European car makers, ONLY Citroën took up the offer fitting their new 1955 DS with inboard disc brakes. Also, for project Zenith the Jaguar Mark 10 project, Jaguar sought the help and collaboration of an aircraft nose wheel steering manufacturer Marles-A.D. West engineering to create the world's first variable ratio power steering, 1964 being the year it was commercially available on the new 4.2 litre update version of the Mark 10, replacing the Burman steering box in the 3.8 litre 1961 to '63 cars. Some other useful updates was the move to the GM's Harrison radiator & cooling division's new patented invention the crossflow radiator which tricks boiling point in radiators when on a hot day, OR, at high altitudes when water boils at an ever decreasing degree, plus the fitting Jaguar's new vacuum boost brake units, and the new Borg Warner 8A automatic transmission instead of Borg Warner's earlier and horrible DF-DG auto-box, which transformed the cars. On the Citroën front, one of my rival schools' "mortal enemy" opposition debating team leaders became one of my best mates at Sydney Uni, he took early computer science degree and I medicine. Post Uni' he worked for the French Governments consortium which was set up to stop the collapse of multiple French companies in the early '70's. He was deputy of their new computer section of their Australian operation, controlling the sales of Peugeot, Citroën, Michelin tyres and the oil companies of Total & Neptune. He was initially provided with the GM's prior DS23 Pallas, as it was superseded with a SM, after a month or so my mate was provided with a new GS 1220 Club i.e. a (station wagon) . Some 10 odd years later one of my doctor colleagues bought an immaculate 2nd hand import CX Prestige, the clever long wheelbase saloon derived from putting the saloon rear panels aft of rear door instead of the station wagon panels. This I would rate as the best of all four Citroens I'd tested. I'd always admired the look of the DS and its many body styles, and as a kid born in the mid 1950's I had multiple decent toy car models of them, but here in Sydney ,Australia, I'd never known anyone with a Citroën, I grew up in Mosman, Sydney's wealthiest suburb, where most Ambassadors, Consul Generals and High Commissioners lived. I went to school with the French Consul Generals daughter and they owned a "his & hers" pair of French built/made Facel Vega's a Excellence for dad and HK 500 update the Facel II coupe for her, but nary a Citroën. So, I was finally lucky enough to drive all 3, the SM, DS23 & the new GS with the bigger engine as early ones had a mere litre engine they were, all 3 amazing. I personally owned and drove an immaculate but 10-year-old 1965 Jaguar MK10 which I still preferred, and all these 50 years later still own a 1967 update example when the MK10 was re-named the 420G in the days after the merge of Jaguar & BMC.
Hi! Absolutely love your video about the CX, but I have been trying to find the song you used at about 1:25 and a few times after that. Could you please tell me its name, as I cannot find it myself. Thank you!
I had a white 76 cx pallas back in the early 90s in Australia. I wish i still.had it. Had like a brand new brown cloth interior and dash..which is unheard of in Australia. Oh well. Some taxi crashed into the front left panel ..no big deal..and i sold it that way before moving overseas. I sold.it.to.someone in Sunbury Victoria.
Had several including Turbo 1 Brake diesel. If only they had built them with the quality of Audi with a direct injection turbodiesel and 6 speed gearbox. Would still be a top design if brought up todate.👍
CX was released at the wrong time of oil crisis and Citroen seek to experiment and innovatie made them lost a lot on rotary engine development, although Mazda had some success with rotary engine in 1970s the technology wasn't there yet and NSU with Citroen felt it. Citroen was bought by Peugeot and at first they had some freedoms by as time goes on PSA accountants were suppressing Citroen more and more. But the worst of the all, was that people started to take a badge into account so even though Citroen CX, BX, Xantia, XM, C5 and C6 were superior from its competition, in many aspect, people were still choosing cars with more premium badge and luxury and innovatives Citroens faded to obscurity. Even so that Citroen still tries to do distinct and interesting cars, the truth is you cannot do much in cheap small C3 as in big and expensive C6.
Why? There was no need to replace the id/ds ,it looked fabulous. I can picture a modern incantation with slit headlights and modern fascia..... change for the sake of change is something im not a fan of
I can't believe that I've just spent the best part of half an hour watching a video about cars...
Being a once proud driver of a Citroën DS19, I was of course enticed by the title, but I stayed for the beautifully crafted script, delivered in soft dulcet tones.
The perfect blend of history, mechanics, corporate intrigue, and design means that at no point does the storyline get too complicated and the intrigue continues to the final "tears in the rain". There are some lovely lyrical gems throughout and, living (and driving) in France, I loved that "the French are famously fond of heavy oil".
Thank you so much for all the work you've put in to making such a delightful video masterpiece. A great start to the day.
I own a ‘75 CX2200 which has been garaged for two years now because I accidentally put one of the spark plugs in at an angle, stripping the threads and completely losing motivation. This type of content is exactly what I need to continue working on my black beauty!
You have to get her sorted. A great car, with many years ahead
@@alansharp1528yeah, I really should! I’m getting married next year and this HAS to be the wedding car. Another great motivator, haha.
well it’s easy put a helicoil in ?
@@Chappomusic yeah that’s what I’m planning on doing
K swap it😂
Thank you for covering Classic Citroën, I used to work at a shop in Los Angeles that specialized in the SM. My boss, Jerry Hathaway, was close friends with Jay Leno. I got to ride in/work on Jay’s Citroëns many times, and see his collection on numerous occasions.
That would have been an awesome experience!
You lucky so and so did you meet J?
I was expecting to see Jerry and perhaps his SM at the 100 years of Citroën in 2019 but hopelessly, I didn't know he was at the end of his life... and when I finaly met his SM, it had been sold 😢
I very happily and guilt free, drive my CX 2500 Diesel on a daily base here in Vancouver BC. It runs on Bio-Diesel. No other car comes close as far as comfort goes, plus the mileage is incredible. It gets more thumbs up than one can shake a stick at.
The "Tears in the rain" , beautiful. To all people involved putting this together, very well done, Thanks and a happy 2025.
Talking about tears, the valley of tears called "Stellantis" should be helped out of its misery.
That was an absolutely exquisite tribute! My parents had the Gs as a car for my mum and then me and I passed my driving test in the GS! What was even more impressive was the fact that, when our boats 8 man life raft had to be serviced! We could get it in the boot of the GS comfortable and I drove it down the place for servicing! I totally agree with your last words! That was eloquently said! Bravo! It is a shame that manufactures wont take the plunge on such a gorgeous design ever again! In fact our Belgian friends had the previous model and that was just as comfortable to ride in!
I had a CX 2400 C-Matic here in Australia many years ago. I still mis that car 30 years later. I will be united with a CX again I know
The CX was, and remains a work of art. Personally I prefer it to the DS - the modernity that the CX exhibits is stark, pure and stunning. There’s nothing left to mere style with the CX. Citroen as a car maker has struggled to better the CX. And it never will better the CX.
I agree completely.
Frenchman here. Once upon a time was a brand, Citroën, that used to manufacture special, some of them exceptional, cars with a strong identity. Unfortunately nowadays Citroën is just another brand of the Stellantis group that manufactures cars like umpteen others in this bland new world of bulky look-alikes. RIP the real Citroëns of the past.
I grew up in the 60s and after with the DS, took my driving test in a 1969 ID19, so spent a lot of time with them, to the point that in 1980 I bought a lovely DS23 and thought it would be my last car. Then, six months later I test drove a CX, on a whim. It was a 1976 2000 with manual steering (in Germany), and I fell in love. Sold the DS to my younger brother (who'd totaled is DS a few months earlier - idiot) and have not looked back. Quieter, faster, and IMO more comfortable than the DS. Especially with traffic today the CX is still perfectly capable whereas the DS is less so, I don't like the armchair seating of the DS anymore. That said, I have a friend who has a passion for the DS, to the point he installed a CX Turbo engine in one of his DSs and it transforms the car. But every time I get into the CX I'm home, perfect ergos for me.
".....Like tears in rain!" 🤩 Niceeee!
This really was surreal to watch. Wonderful job on the video, and I rather do enjoy French cars from this period.
Great piece. Thank you for putting together. Well researched and very interesting.
Excellent video of a true French beauty.
CX + Vangelis= poetry in motion.
I never get tired of seeing those very last real Citroen, alien animals created by risky minds in the middle of a sea of shoe boxes with four wheels. My dad had two/three of them in a row: GS, GSA and... a BX, which I consider the very-very last Citroen, the last attempt to keep the lineage. I thought the real reason he never had a CX was because it didn't fit in his garage space, not for money issues😀
Thanks for the video and sorry for my bad english.
You should try the Xantia Active. It's PEAK hydropneumatic Citroen!
The C6, to my mind, is also very Citroën…..
A gentleman with good taste! BX was a phenomenally good product, and won lots of friends in the UK. Not just in the fleet market, but among retail customers as well...
That was a fantastic episode, really well made with excellent use of familiar clips and fresh footage. All were delivered at a relaxing pace without being overbearing or bludgeoning with technicalities.
Bravo!
Lads, I landed on your content by happenstance, watched the vid with increasing interest and ended up applauding your ending. Excellent work there.
Have subscribed, you smooth talking devils...
Supremely informative, tastefully and beautifully presented…👌
Keep up the good work. The quality of the videos just keeps getting better. 👌
One of the greatest cars ever made in my opinion.
Exceptionally well presented and narrated story line. As the current owner of a DS 21 Pallas (of course in LHD) with the semi auto gearbox, and as the previous owner of a CX25 DTR Turbo 2, I can only concur with ALL your comments. I miss the CX, it was a great car as well as the DS is a great car. PSA just now make 'Cars' no soul, no heritage and no distinction, such a shame we have all lost the design flair to enter a world of modernism. Just take a look at St Pancras Station and any of the new stations that have been built in the last 50 years, anyone got a ruler and a set square? Well done again on this little presentation, a worthy watch, thank you!
My 1973 GS Club 1220 was fantastic until 1986. Miss it a lot.
What happened in 1986?
@hunchanchoc8418 Bad crash. Someone drove into the side and at that stage it couldn't be repaired.
@@dirkhuman760 Sorry to hear that.
Nicely researched and very expertly delivered. Thoroughly enjoyed this and look forward to future developments on your channel.
Very thorough CX review.
Having progressed from my first car in Australia of an Aussie assembled 1962 ID19 thru D Super and DS21 & 23 EFIs plus GSs to my pinnacle.
A 1978 to RHD CX2400 EFI Prestige 5 speed with Paris delivery, a year in the UK, 5 months touring Europe before shipment home to Australia.
Brilliant machine.
Hi. Do you still have the car ? I am in Brisbane
My mother had the CX 'Super 2200 D', super smooth ride for long voyages. As a side note, the GS is still to this day, the most sought after car by pilots. It is said that " you don't drive a CX/GS, you pilot them "!
Best and smoothest ride ever in a car. Never will be beaten.
Welp, I can cross “getting depressed over a car documentary” off my bucket list now.
Subscribed
Oh my yes, especially considering this is the 50th anniversary of the CX.
Sorry for compounding the depression issue
Sir,
Beautifully done, both technically and artistically. You should be very proud of your production, as well as your well researched discourse on the CX, it's origins and history.
Your delivery is exemplary. Something very rare nowadays. You convey so much in so few words, and your pronunciation is perfect.
We share your opinion that modern cars are increasingly just anodyne and bland little euroboxes for equally faceless consumers. What a shame. I recall the idiosyncratic cars of the 70s and 80s, their brio and panache did so abound.
Don't forget Volvo's involvement in the lovely Duvrin V6. Then again, I'm slightly biased in that regard, with a brace of P2s in the stable!
Wishing you and all of our fellow car lovers a very merry, and peaceful Christmas.
Your friend.
MP
Thank you for such a kind comment, it means a great deal! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Great video about a truly magnificent car - and i just love the soundtrack and the end, hinting to my favorite movie!
We really miss our CX GTi. Thx for the nice memories!
CX PRESTIGE and Safari have the same wheelbase as the DS at 123 inches.
The 2.5 turns lock to lock speed sensitive power self centring steering and longerons partial subframe on rubber mounts and sportier handling a lower seating position made the CX a true driver's car.
The pod controls were the best fingertip control system of any car, combined with the DIRAVI steering, quietness, rear room of Prestige and larger boot meant I Preferred my CX Prestige to my various DSs..
The one thing missing was the DS turning headlights...
The sporty V6 that ended up in the Xantia would have given both DS and CX the engine they deserved.
A stunning car but even more impressive is the filmography. It makes the car even more impressive Would love to see more vids like this! Keep up the good work!!!
Thank you, we really appreciate it!
@@427Motorsports Next time a little more light on your face please..don't stay hidden in the shadows.😄
The narration is dull and lifeless. You need speech training.
@@stuartbritton4811 Been awhile since you've had good sex?
Well done,poetry in motion indeed. Thank you for a great video. I subscribed. Greetings to you from Sydney,Australia.
I drove my father's Citroen BX. I liked it; a unique and characterful car that drove well and gave great comfort on a journey.
Very well researched and presented
Great job ! I really enjoyed the 70’s flair you gave to your work. Well done !
Thanx for an awesome video and insightful comments. I bought a 1982 Prestige RHD - they were imported in small batches to the country where I reside. I bought it purely for studying its design. Ok… to be honest - my obsession!
I love this car!
Such a big cheese for working androids in at the end there. Made me laugh though. 😀 Happy New Year Beers to you both
Can't beat a bit of Vangelis!
Thank you for a lovely and thoughtful history and video of one of the two cars I ever owned that are firmly fixed in my memory as having been an absolute joy to own and drive. Both totally different I must add.
I now cannot remember the exact date when I acquired my CX Athena but I know for sure I was still running it in 1984 because that’s when we moved to a new home and ‘she’ moved with us.
The Athena came to me as a low mileage used car from a Bradford dealer named, I think, Jack Andrews. As I recall, I retained it for about four years during which it served as a working car and a family transport.
During that time, our son was competing in what was then the Junior Britain 100cc Kart racing and the Athena was our transport for both the Kart and all the essential bits and pieces to support competition racing. With the Kart’s engine and rear wheels removed, the Kart chassis fitted comfortably in the Athena boot surrounded by lots of ‘clutter’ and the rear passenger seats served as useful storage for a large compartmentalised fibre box containing a myriad of spares and tools. Almost every weekend for several years the Athena served us admirably as we dashed (no questions asked about speed limits) up and down the A1 to various tracks around Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire too, as well as crossing the Pennine to the fabulous Three Sisters circuit near Ashton in Makerfield. Athena never missed a beat.
Additionally, I even pulled a quite large horse trailer to take our daughter and horse to various local equestrian events, but it has to be said Athena was near to her practical limits, albeit that fabulous suspension coped well at all times.
Yes, that suspension! We made many journeys to France in that car to visit my late wife’s family and for touring holidays too and it was guaranteed that frequently I would be the only occupant not asleep - thankfully!
The end to my ownership sadly came as a result of a strange quirk that developed which our local Citroen dealer failed to cure. The engine would suddenly start to fade and lose power. If I stopped and turned off the engine for a few moments the fault disappeared and the engine ran fine again but that was somewhat unnerving. I eventually sold the car to a garage mechanic who was sure he could fix it but I never learned if he cured the ailment. Many years later when chatting with a great Citroen enthusiast he told me the most probably cause was slackening of the cylinder head studs as that had happened with a CX he had owned and it was cured by re-torquing of the studs. I’ve never verified that.
The other memorable car came much later. A Subaru Impreza Turbo, but that was an entirely different beast and a quite different story.
Thanks for your comment, that is a wonderful piece of family history!
Plus, we're big fans of the Impreza here - feel free to check out our other videos on our channel to see ours :)
Im obsessed with French classic cars ❤❤❤❤❤
Holistic knowledge ...the passion of lovers !
Nice call using Vangelis for the CX reveal! :)
Ive just discovered you , great video. Subscribed
Fantastic video as ever chaps 👏
The CX is just beautiful. I remember when it first was shown in Norway in 75.
Very different from the DS, but it's still a work of elegant, timeless cardesign 👌
I never get tired of the genius details at how the headlights was designed with the grille on the first series . Robert Opron was a genius.
Having owned and driven Cits for some 60 years (currently have 3 hydraulic cars, 72 DS21Pallas, 69 ID21 Break and a 91 XM) it is nice to see a tribute to the CX. Just a couple of comments. DRAVI steering - was never available in the D series. Fun fact - the original specs called for a 1 turn lock to lock - that was however, as one test driver put it 'just a wee bit to quick' and given that both the D and SM had just a bit over 86° swing lock to lock, easy to understand why. Steering geometry - D's and SM's had what was called 'centerline steering'. IOW the actual point of wheel rotation is in the exact center of the rim/tire. Later car were not so designed. SW vs. Sedan rear suspension. Yes, the rear arms are a bit different due to the greater weight anticipated. However the major difference is with the rear suspension spheres. SW units have higher internal pressure as well as modified flow restriction valve. True for both D and CX.
Had a cx2000 in white for a short period - very comfortable and fantastic on the motorway - loved this piece very well researched and interesting - bravo
Excellent video. That’s a subscription. Love this era Citroen.
When young I loved the CX even the single windscreen wiper ! LoL
What an excellent video, I have of course subscribed, have a great new year, greetings from Tasmania.
Citroën was one of the top interesting car companies. In my opinion, they did not really make beautiful cars though, except for the traction avant, but nevertheless I would gladly like to own a good DS, CX or 2CV. Very nice and infomative video!
CX isn't just the French term for Cd (Coefficient of drag): it's the Cd in the X direction. Citroen were also concerned about the Cd in the Y direction, too, which, thanks to the concave rear window and forward centre of gravity, made the CX stable in cross-winds (ie. wind from the Y direction).
CX. - She’s a beauty ! Still an incredibly clean design
I'm lucky to own a few Citroën cars. Great video!
Great soundtrack! 😊
Great video. Great car, the Cx. I own a GTi model. that thing is exquisite. I love it to bits, it's the best ar I ever had yet the oldest by a considerable margin. At 40 years, it has been reliable and troublefree. Citroen made some of the best production cars
Excellent feature!
the 1966 2cv AZA was the prettiest and by far the best Citroen
Excellent!
I agree that the CX was a worthy successor to the DS. It did many things better than the DS and continued innovations that really worked.
In Australia Dad had a 1977 CX2400 carbie CMatic and I shipped my 1978 CX2400 EFI Prestige home in 1979..
The CX was so much quieter and faster than the DS. Did not suffer the heat in the cabin of the DS mid engine close to driver and passenger.
But all that glass means it became very hot when parked...
DS had fantastic fresh air ventilation with rammed intakes in the front bumper. CX had a bulge in the bonnet and small vent outlets feeble airflow.
The Aussie spec 2400 was burdened with anti-pollution gear, plus C Matic and air-conditioning sucked performance.
Hi. I have always liked French cars. Especially the Citroen ID / DS models. The DS was replaced on the production line by the lovely CX car. A very advanced car in style too , with its futuristic design. Although probably a little too large in size by today's standards.
I had a CX2400 back in the day but lost it when that spare tyre in the engine bay caught fire and destroyed the car. A superb car and just so comfortable to drive. As was said a great loss.
You create the C6 which was the perfect spiritual successor to the CX
Great video. I’m going to commit automotive sacrilege here and say I much prefer the later models with the plastic bumpers. They’re stylistically more modern and the interiors are better resolved. Plus the advertising was peak 80s and obviously …… turbos. Not to put down the earlier cars which were still pretty cool especially with the buttoned armchair interiors.
It is hard to argue with the turbos!
Pretty good video about the CX. I'd have preferred a cleaner car for much of the video, and one in better condition overall, but you got your point across. Nice attempts at making the video more artful although at times the audio suffered in the bar you used. Good on you, there is so much you could cover but you selected well. You obviously have a love for the car and it shows. I share that love, owning six at this point. I do wonder where this nonsense about "speedfeel" for the steering description in the US comes from, the CX was never officially sold here. I'll have to look at my CXA brochures to see if they used that term, but that's a minor quibble.
The perils of filming in December unfortunately! I think I read about the speedfeel in my Citrovisie book, but I would be interested to see if indeed it appears in the American CXA advertising!
Comprehensive and historically accurate. Thank you for this.
My CX 2.5 TRI was the most comfortable car i ever had.
I agree that the DS was a very beautyful car. Especial the Henri Chapron cars.
But for me it come second after the Alfa Romeo stepnose coupe.
I am happy to have one of those in my garage (69 Gt1300 Junior). But i will always have place for a DS.
Great channel this. Just discovered it. 👌🏻
Those Alfas are very beautiful cars!
Nice vidi... Great music...
Not every LWB CX was built with a vinyl roof cover: this was standard on the Prestige but could be deleted. The Limousine was standard without vinyl. The contours of the roof panel of very early CX Prestige look almost the same as those of the roof panel of a standard wheelbase car; I do not know if this early roof panel was constructed of two panels welded together or if it was a different pressing in one piece. Later Prestige and Limousine have a taller roof shape (more headroom) which is a different pressing.
My mistake - I thought they all had the vinyl to cover the extension work! -Conor
Isto é um bom vídeo. Histórico, ɓem detalhado e contado com seriedade e serenidade. 👌
Gracias!
@@427Motorsports Haha he is not speaking Spanish, he is speaking Portuguese.
Obrigado.
Apologies! Obrigado!
Thanks Peugeot for turning one of the most iconic and beloved brands of all time into a soulless and generic budget version of your own brand 👍
Great driving car, yes needed more power and the little brake button was Weird. The most comfortable cars I’ve ever driven
Great video/text, however Jaguar with Dunlop (tyres) financial & technical assistance collaborated in great secrecy to create the disc brake as we know it. It was technically developed in the D-type race program and was offered with NO initial cost to the European car makers, ONLY Citroën took up the offer fitting their new 1955 DS with inboard disc brakes. Also, for project Zenith the Jaguar Mark 10 project, Jaguar sought the help and collaboration of an aircraft nose wheel steering manufacturer Marles-A.D. West engineering to create the world's first variable ratio power steering, 1964 being the year it was commercially available on the new 4.2 litre update version of the Mark 10, replacing the Burman steering box in the 3.8 litre 1961 to '63 cars. Some other useful updates was the move to the GM's Harrison radiator & cooling division's new patented invention the crossflow radiator which tricks boiling point in radiators when on a hot day, OR, at high altitudes when water boils at an ever decreasing degree, plus the fitting Jaguar's new vacuum boost brake units, and the new Borg Warner 8A automatic transmission instead of Borg Warner's earlier and horrible DF-DG auto-box, which transformed the cars.
On the Citroën front, one of my rival schools' "mortal enemy" opposition debating team leaders became one of my best mates at Sydney Uni, he took early computer science degree and I medicine. Post Uni' he worked for the French Governments consortium which was set up to stop the collapse of multiple French companies in the early '70's. He was deputy of their new computer section of their Australian operation, controlling the sales of Peugeot, Citroën, Michelin tyres and the oil companies of Total & Neptune. He was initially provided with the GM's prior DS23 Pallas, as it was superseded with a SM, after a month or so my mate was provided with a new GS 1220 Club i.e. a (station wagon) . Some 10 odd years later one of my doctor colleagues bought an immaculate 2nd hand import CX Prestige, the clever long wheelbase saloon derived from putting the saloon rear panels aft of rear door instead of the station wagon panels. This I would rate as the best of all four Citroens I'd tested.
I'd always admired the look of the DS and its many body styles, and as a kid born in the mid 1950's I had multiple decent toy car models of them, but here in Sydney ,Australia, I'd never known anyone with a Citroën, I grew up in Mosman, Sydney's wealthiest suburb, where most Ambassadors, Consul Generals and High Commissioners lived. I went to school with the French Consul Generals daughter and they owned a "his & hers" pair of French built/made Facel Vega's a Excellence for dad and HK 500 update the Facel II coupe for her, but nary a Citroën. So, I was finally lucky enough to drive all 3, the SM, DS23 & the new GS with the bigger engine as early ones had a mere litre engine they were, all 3 amazing. I personally owned and drove an immaculate but 10-year-old 1965 Jaguar MK10 which I still preferred, and all these 50 years later still own a 1967 update example when the MK10 was re-named the 420G in the days after the merge of Jaguar & BMC.
Hi! Absolutely love your video about the CX, but I have been trying to find the song you used at about 1:25 and a few times after that. Could you please tell me its name, as I cannot find it myself. Thank you!
Thanks for your comment! The original is Hey Little Girl by Icehouse but in the video it is a french cover by Eric Lanz called Hey Petit Coeur!
David Bowie - “Low” side two, “Hey Little Girl”, Vangelis,
First car was a GS then a 2cv then an AX would love a CX Prestige love love love
I had a white 76 cx pallas back in the early 90s in Australia. I wish i still.had it. Had like a brand new brown cloth interior and dash..which is unheard of in Australia. Oh well. Some taxi crashed into the front left panel ..no big deal..and i sold it that way before moving overseas. I sold.it.to.someone in Sunbury Victoria.
Had several including Turbo 1 Brake diesel. If only they had built them with the quality of Audi with a direct injection turbodiesel and 6 speed gearbox. Would still be a top design if brought up todate.👍
No mention of the six-wheeled Loadrunner? That always struck me, along with the earlier Prestige limousine, as the coolest CX of all.
I think the Tissiers deserve a video all to themselves!
Liked the Blade Runner reference ....PS: How can the C in PSA stand for Citroen?
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I may be in the minority here but I prefer the looks of the CX to the DS... ouch
i daily a 2.5D cx from 1979. Drives wonderfully put is a massive pain to work on, especially steering rack boots.
Ne ho avuta una del 1988. La rimpiango tutti i giorni che mi da il Signore. Saluti dall'Italia.
A track from David Bowie, "Heroes" album. Could be v2 schnider
Sense of Doubt!
Rest in peace Portland's Citron mechanic
4:40 That is South Africa - Johannesburg to be precise
Great fir driving on bad roads
E Type Jag is the most beautiful car in the world!
Nope.
Now, time to watch Blade Runner.
hi 427, is it worth it putting in 1.9 tdi mk3 engine into a mk2
Yes it is
Stay tuned for the start of next year with a full overview on our swap! 😎
@@427Motorsports will do
The DS is ofcourse very special. But I love the CX’ looks better.
a girlfriends father had a GTi in the late 70s, because of the rear badging I thought it was called GT8🤔
Didn't watch the video, just came here to answer the question. You follow up the 2011 Nissan Cube with the 2012 Nissan Cube.
Didn’t read the comment, just came here to respond to it. Only if you take the wrapper off first.
@@427Motorsports I love my 2011 Nissan Lozenge.
CX was released at the wrong time of oil crisis and Citroen seek to experiment and innovatie made them lost a lot on rotary engine development, although Mazda had some success with rotary engine in 1970s the technology wasn't there yet and NSU with Citroen felt it. Citroen was bought by Peugeot and at first they had some freedoms by as time goes on PSA accountants were suppressing Citroen more and more. But the worst of the all, was that people started to take a badge into account so even though Citroen CX, BX, Xantia, XM, C5 and C6 were superior from its competition, in many aspect, people were still choosing cars with more premium badge and luxury and innovatives Citroens faded to obscurity. Even so that Citroen still tries to do distinct and interesting cars, the truth is you cannot do much in cheap small C3 as in big and expensive C6.
Why? There was no need to replace the id/ds ,it looked fabulous. I can picture a modern incantation with slit headlights and modern fascia..... change for the sake of change is something im not a fan of
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Why is Jeremy Clarkson being referred to as “a disgraced motoring journalist” ??
Opinions of one 427 Member aren’t the opinions of all 427 Members.
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How is Jeremy Clarkson disgraced?
At the risk of being a nerd - it's a shame you've ruined the beautiful S1 interior by fitting those deeply ordinary S2 door trims
Done by a previous owner unfortunately 🥲
I think the answer was the DB6 .
Not this freaky French blob.
Today's cars are abominable compared to the Citroen DS and CX.
Please consider SLOOOOOWING DOWN your narration. Your dialect mandates this improvement. Thank you!
I will work on that for future videos - thank you for the feedback!