She refused to marry a guy who wasn't right for her just for his riches, she refused to live off a mans money anymore. She didn't give into societal norms (marrying someone just because she was pregnant with his child) and she worked her way up the career ladder despite starting off with nothing. She really came a long way and that was one of the many reasons - aside from having great hair - why so many women liked her character.
She didn't cook. It may seem stupid but I really like it then. As a Spanish woman it seem like all of us had to know how to cook back then. Thank God it's not like this any more.
The way I see it, if it had been made now, *Ross* would've gotten ON a plane and joined her there with their daughter, or they would've made some kind of back and forth arrangement.
@@alixmedler6688 well tbh the real plot was to Ross getting on the plane and going to Paris and them falling in love with each other again, or something like that. But because of Aniston they had to do that
The way Ross insulted Rachel that Mark only offered her a job because he wanted to sleep with her... like what was he implying? That she’s not worthy enough for a job? Rachel just doesn't deserve the hate she gets
I mean he did not know her or her capabilities at all I'm not saying he did it just to sleep with her, maybe he was being nice but he did not know her when he offered her the job
Mostly I hate how it demeans men. Like men are selfish human beings who will only help others for their personal sexual satisfaction? Some people are just decent, jeez.
He doesn't have to tell her what he thinks of the situation frankly just to make her feel better ? You would warn people you care about who are inexperienced enough to get fooled about the probable dangers they might be overlooking. Why would she be worthy of anything With no experience? The guy didn't even know her.
im sorry but Rach should have gone to Paris, it was her dream and if it hadnt been for Ross, she would have been living her dream. Ross loved her no doubt but he never gave priorities or respect Rachel's work
I'm so proud of her growth. She started from a dumb spoiled girl to a successful independent woman. She IS a feminist icon. Except she shouldn't have ended up with Ross. He is a kind dude and a good father, but he is also a toxic misogynistic a-hole. Yes, Rachel have been pretty toxic too, but at times she did become the bigger person. And both of them being extremely toxic to each other only add to the reason that they shouldn't be together.
@@yogeshjog6072 mi·sog·y·nist /məˈsäjənəst/ Learn to pronounce noun a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women. "a bachelor and renowned misogynist" fem·i·nism /ˈfeməˌnizəm/ Learn to pronounce noun the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes. / fem·i·nist /ˈfemənəst/ Learn to pronounce noun a person who supports feminism. adjective relating to or supporting feminism. "feminist literature" no, they are not the same thing
Joey and Rachel as a couple was the most forced and unrealistic thing on the show for me. Joey is great but their dynamic was clearly on the friendship side. Ross had his problems but there was actual development for a romantic relation there.
@@Virgin_Succubus642 aww no that relationship was WEIRD. Imagine of Joe grows up and dates chandler and Monica's daughter? Isn't it the same. Dating your parents best friend that saw u as a baby?
I thought feminism was about equality, isn’t that phrase just saying that if you’re a man you’re opinion is invalid? (I’m probably reading too much into it lol)
@@marvthane1604 I think she was talking about the pain she was in or just the pregnancy in general. He can’t say the pain or the kicks is nothing because he’s never experienced it and he never will because he doesn’t have a uterus. It would be like her telling him a kick in the balls is nothing, she couldn’t because she’ll never experience that pain
@@izzyIND29 lol ,its not his opinion that Braxton Hicks contraction are harmless or painless, it's the information given by millions of "women" with a "uterus" who have been pregnant and experienced the same . Here is the info : Throughout pregnancy, "painless Braxton Hicks contractions" with simultaneous hardening of the uterus occur. They are called "false labor pain" , they are due to uterine contraction, a natural process of preparing before the actual pain starts ,its not same as getting hit in the balls.
@@mukund5826 my point still stands. He wasn’t experiencing it, he doesn’t really have a right to tell her what she is or was feeling. She’s pregnant and she felt something out of the ordinary, of course she’s going to freak. He completely undermined her experience and played it off as if it was nothing. It wouldn’t be difficult to say ‘that must’ve been scary’ or ‘at least you’re fine’. Also why is women and uterus in quotation marks?
@@izzyIND29 bcoz u said men who don't have uterus cannot speak about it ,so i emphasized it was reported by women with a uterus and not by men . Lol did u even watch that scene he came running with concern and asked are you ok ,what happened ,then after she told its ok ,i am fine its Braxton Hicks contraction, then him knowing what it is said thats nothing to worry.
I can't stop thinking... if Friends were to be made in 2021, I believe the writers would make Rachel end up with Joey. My opinion though.. Joey was a much better partner to her than Ross. With Ross it was toxic but with Joey there was understanding, sacrifices and innocent love..
I am rewatching it now and I am not really very invested in anything in the show apart from the comedy, so I don't care that much who ends up with who, but yes - Rachel is pretty great, Joey, Monica and Chandler are great mixes of good and flaws, but Ross has almost no redeeming qualities, esp. in later seasons it is really difficult to understand what Rachel sees in him. Joey was always genuinly kind and very open minded for a character that was supposed to be that superficial, and Rachel needed that more than some stuffy, really prejudiced guy.
i think the real issue is that they didn't put a romantic relationship between joey and rachel right away. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it should've been earlier, but they could've invested in a romantic plot right when they meet. cause later it just felt weird, yeah joey did some pretty sweet stuff for rachel, but the show had already established a sister-brother thing between these two. so it just felt forced. if they decidided right from the get go that they would be a couple, it would've been way better
This was why I didn't like Ross, he was always whining about shit. Yes Rachel's a whiner too but we see how much she has grown over the years. She was always a powerful woman even in school, but she became her own woman the moment she ran away from home and her wedding. Yes Ross was always there to see her progress, but most of the time their relationship wasn't stable because they didn't treat each other as equals. Why? Because Ross was paleontologist while Rachel served coffee, or was a secretary, or did fashion. It's not like how she was with Joey. That relationship was more balanced. Even though Ross was supposedly smart, he had a lot of growing to do, something Rachel was already ahead of him. His insecurities were projected onto her and it was extremely shitty of him to try to not get an anullment when he and Rachel both drunk married each other, just because he would become divorced 3 times after that. Yes it's sad, but you don't just put somebody else's life on hold just to make you feel better about your life. That isn't cool man.
@@Dr.Nihilist yeah she was a bully.... Then she grew up, changed her ways for the most part and became independant. Ross on the other hand still had a lot of growing up to do even though he is older than Rachel. They were just bad for each other.
@@akashpandey792 he was drunk, he was vulnerable and a woman forced herself on him. he honestly thought rachel was having sex with mark when he heard his voice on the phone. his girlfriend breaks up with him, he calls her just to find out she is "hanging out" with his biggest insecurity, the reason they broke up in the first place. ross is not the type of person that cheats. let's not forget the fact that rachel sabotaged every healthy relationship ross had (convincing bonnie to shave her head, showing up to his wedding unannounced, etc
Lol, cheating is a choice, and if he becomes so pathetic that he is not man enough to control his character then why he is drinking outside he should drink in his home rather than slipping around@@varshapriya7686
@@aarushiagarwal3700 it’s a sex joke about not being able to get an erection. It happens sometimes and men might be insecure about it. Her saying “its not that common and it is a big deal” would make it even worse. So it’s just contributing to the idea that men have to be “on it” and ready to go 24/7 which isn’t feminist at all. A feminist would say it’s totally ok for that to happen sometimes and nothing to be ashamed of.
Tbh, while Ross and Rachel were somewhat decent individually (as much as they could be for a sitcom), together they probably became some of the most toxic characters on the show. In real life, this relationship would either end in an ugly divorce, which would honestly be a blessing because the alternative is them being a toxic couple until they die lol.
Yup. Ross had his bas qualities but he wouldn't be nearly as hated if the writers didn't push the Ross/Rachel route. Their "love" made them worse and more unbearable the longer it was on the screen. The goddamn definition of toxic relationship lol.
Right? Everyone hated them at the time of release but I rewatched their episodes and... Yes, it comes from nowhere but who cares? It's adorable and goofy and lacks the toxicity of Ross/Rachel. Besides, sometimes the impulsive and weird decisions turn out to be the best for us. :)
She was my favorite character and in every single video she became a independent woman and ofc she loved it Monica was right “welcome to the real world, it sucks you will love it” and Rachel is loving it. She’s a icon and a 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁
Thank you! I'm so sick of people complaining she's spoiled. I don't think they realize... Rachel was raised to be spoiled, but she decided on her own that she didn't want that for herself. She may like nice things, but she worked hard to find a job where she can support her own needs and likes. She kept trying to push past her comfort zone to be something other than the spoiled princess she would've otherwise been. By the end of it, she was independent, self-sufficient, successful, and a loving mother, too.
Ross: I guess you bought that book after we broke up, huh? Rachel: Uh-huh. Yeah, I did because I wore out my first copy while I was with you. The Audience: BUUUURRRNNN!!!
Joey and Rachel was a much healthier relationship than Rachel and Ross. Ross was possessive and jealous and narcissistic, they fought constantly and their relationship was completely toxic. Rachel and Joey’s relationship was warm and they had way more in common and they protected each other with the ferocity only true friends and partners do. Ship Joey and Rachel❤️❤️❤️
Joey and rachel never had such relationship,they just tried it and it didnt work out,rachel herself said it was weird because they were friends for too long and what they had was just sexual
@@thaobui7805 how can u know something that never happened, joey is the most untrustworthy person in the group for a relationship and they dont feel that way either,u r just following the trend of hating ross
@@Vinsmokesanji790 i hate most aspect of Ross án I'm not "following a trend", and Joey have a few character development in the final seasons I belive Joey can change unlike Ross who is much more selfish until the end
To be honest I love the fact that she had that privileged life that many would envy but she leaved that life because she wanted to live an independent one although it might look like it was a stupid decisions to do in the beginning but after sometime when she got her big job at a fashion company it was very nice for her and finally she made it I would have loved it sheet have gone to Parisbecause it would have been amazing for her career and on the long run also but the producers wanted them to be together writers wanted them to be together so she stayed with Ross.
Despite the episode when Ross did her makeup awfully and she remarked, “great, I’ll just sit next to the transsexual from purchasing” (or whatever department), I think Rachel is a great feminist overall.
@@luvanujj It was a completely different time,and it was quite light hearted,it’s not like she completely and wholeheartedly said a transphobic comment
I adore her. Despite the 90's being a shit show, I'm happy that Rachel was one of the most iconic characters of that time. She probably made many women do a double take and question things about their lives.
to the creator of this video- after watching this, and finding somone who mirrored my opinions on friends perfectly, I went to your channel. You may not have any other videos, and thats chill, but the fact tat you have a thousand subscribers with only one vid speaks to the quality of content. Good for you, its amazing and I think thats so awesome.
irl, ross and rachel would have never worked out, but i think everyone enjoyed them getting back together at the end. istg all these comments about them not being together are ruining friends for me
One of his biggest problems is that he can never get over his pride, at least not until it’s too late. Remember when he moved into his apartment building and refused to pay the money. He shouldn’t have had to give 100 dollars to someone he didn’t know but he should’ve made a compromise like chipping into the party where he would get to know his neighbors and get on their good side or just give the man half of the hundred. 50 bucks isn’t a lot of money for him especially if it helps him in the long run. Instead he spent more than he was asked to give on another party to be petty and it heavily backfired.
Yess cause Rachel never played the victim, she literally balded Ross's girlfriend cause she knew that would sabotage their relationship, she forced ross to stay single and not date anyone when she was pregnant just because she didn't "like it", and ross was so sweet he agreed to her demand, she literally blamed it on ross on the night they had Emma saying he made the first move lying when she knew very well that she made the first move on him, but lied to everyone just to one up Ross and humiliate him in front of his friends, and now all of a sudden people are talking like she's a perfect little angel who had no faults and blaming the whole thing on ross, when the truth is they both were equally toxic and immature
The Icelandic ad I got… matched a lot with this video (basically men saying how other men shouldn’t be doing shit to girls like guilt tripping, sent dps to females without acceptance and such)
"Come on, Daddy, listen to me! It's like all my life everyone has always told me 'You're a shoe!', 'You're a shoe!', 'You're a shoe!" *Everybody turns to listen* "And then today I just stopped and I said 'What if I don't want to be a shoe? What if I want to be a purse, you know? O-or, or a hat?!'" *Pause* "No, I don't want you to buy me a hat-!" ""-IT'S A METAPHOR, DADDY!"
i like how the comments has a lot to say against Rachel/Ross relationship when back then audiences absolutely flamed the show because everyone hated Rachel/Joey
I liked the episode where her sister Jill comes to visit her and says her dad told her to go and get some life advice from the one daughter he is actually proud of. That said everything that needed to be said. Rachel started off very spoiled but turned herself into a someone. And both parents were inspired by her, thats why her mother copied her and decided to leave 'her Barry' because he wasn't making her happy.
Faryal Shams season 2 ep 1 is the episode where Rachel is sad that Ross has a girlfriend. The episode is even called the one with Ross’s new girlfriend. Paulo does not even show up.
Alright I'll say it- -Rachel wasn't a feminist icon (as there were times she has acted toxic towards other women/men) -Instead she was an "independent woman" icon (like just look at how she grew up from being a spoilt brat to an ambitious woman)
I'm seriously disappointed in this comment section and their replies....can't we all just enjoy this amazing series without hating on any of the characters? all of the characters aren't. PERFECT please understand that. thank you now you can go watch friends
She hired tag instead of Hilda.. 😏how can you even call her a feminist when she hired a guy in place of an experienced woman only because he was hot.. 🤷♀️
I'm so, so glad that Rachel is getting her due praise. She's the most hated character on Friends and people always blame her for Ross' failed relationships. I thought that was the case until I watched the show (best show I've ever watched, helped me with my mental health 😭) . I've always admired her for these reasons: her becoming independent even though she could live off a much more comfortable life off her dad's money.
When people are discussing whether Rachel should have gone to Paris or not, they always name Ross as the reason, but am I the only one who just didn't want Rachel to leave New York, because of the group as a whole? Like I couldn't imagine them splitting up and not living so close to each other.
That’s how the show ended tho.. Joey went to Hollywood, chandler and Monica moved moved, Phoebe got married and started her life, and Ross and Rachel would’ve been divorced by now lol
@@MEDSZ13.08 Not in my world. In my world the Joey show never happened and Joey stayed in NY and occasionally lives with Chandler and Monica when he's visiting the suburbs (he's either an actor or he sells sandwiches in New York haha), Phoebe and Mike got married, they live in a nice apartment and hang out with Joey a lot. Rachel and Ross bought a house near Monica and Chandler's and their kids are good friends. The whole group meets up regularly.
I now understand why it was that I never liked Ross in the series, he’s so closed minded about feminism and really shows toxic masculinity in some parts
@@nikitagigigeorge8572 I’m not blaming him I’m just saying I discovered why he was my least favorite character not that it’s his fault, he’s just an actor who follows the script hahaha
@@luciaradulescu2431 I'm talking about Ross not David Schwimmer, Ross's character had a lot of issues with his dad as a kid, there was a scene where he says that his dad used to shout at him when he used to stay at home and watch Golden Girls and uses to belittle him for being too girly as a kid, he was insulted to that extent by his father so when he sees ben playing with a barbie or a male nanny he reacts that way cause his father raised him like that he was also worried about Ben getting bullied by ppl just like he was by his dad when he watched Golden girls and stayed inside
@@luciaradulescu2431 all I'm noticing this whole comment section belittling Ross for behaving that way to that nanny, and talking about his toxic masculinity when he's literally grown that way, but everyone justifies Rachel's spoilt brattiness behaviour by saying she was brought up that way, when it'd the sane case for Ross
@@nikitagigigeorge8572 oh right that’s true, tbh I kind of forgot about his dad but yeah that makes sense because toxic masculinity often transfers from generation to generation and if Rachel or others would’ve tried to talk to him instead of fight then it would’ve probably been better
Misogynistic brigade made “ I hate Rachel club”.. I mean she never cheated on Ross..she did loved him no matter what. she is a Wonder Woman. That’s why I love her..and don’t get it why people hate Rachel soo much.
@@jxvibes8901 yes, and considering that Ross's character has always been depicted as "the nice guy" and the entire first season we were supposed to cheer for him, and that Rachel would choose him and finaly see what a "nice guy" he was.
ross was awful about the mark thing, he either thinks rachel's looks are worth more than anything else or thinks rachel doesn't have any will and she's just an object that mark can take away from him. either way, no respect
Rachel is NOT a feminist icon. She always got bratty and rude whenever Ross had girlfriends. Not that Ross is a good person either but his girlfriends were for the most part normal people and Rachel was always rude to them. I wouldn't call a feminist a woman who puts other women down because they're dating her ex.
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She refused to marry a guy who wasn't right for her just for his riches, she refused to live off a mans money anymore. She didn't give into societal norms (marrying someone just because she was pregnant with his child) and she worked her way up the career ladder despite starting off with nothing. She really came a long way and that was one of the many reasons - aside from having great hair - why so many women liked her character.
Actually all the girls had unconventional births!! That was very sweet
Rachel is so aspirational
She didn't cook. It may seem stupid but I really like it then. As a Spanish woman it seem like all of us had to know how to cook back then. Thank God it's not like this any more.
@@beatrizmari4975 Yes. I know. Why do we need to cook?
@@beatrizmari4975 I mean it’s nice to be able to do it but it shouldn’t be expected.
If Friends were to be made in 2021 Rachel would have never got of the plane
The way I see it, if it had been made now, *Ross* would've gotten ON a plane and joined her there with their daughter, or they would've made some kind of back and forth arrangement.
@@alixmedler6688 I think she would’ve left but knowing the way shows go now she would eventually go back to him
Is that hyunjin omg what a cute picture?
@@LeilaleilaZ yes
@@alixmedler6688 well tbh the real plot was to Ross getting on the plane and going to Paris and them falling in love with each other again, or something like that. But because of Aniston they had to do that
The way Ross insulted Rachel that Mark only offered her a job because he wanted to sleep with her... like what was he implying? That she’s not worthy enough for a job? Rachel just doesn't deserve the hate she gets
💯💯💯 I can’t stand Ross
RIGHT?! Like wow man, thanks for the credit, in your mind my body is clearly more fit for the job than my capabilities!! Nice boyfriend there 🙄🙄
I mean he did not know her or her capabilities at all
I'm not saying he did it just to sleep with her, maybe he was being nice
but he did not know her when he offered her the job
Mostly I hate how it demeans men. Like men are selfish human beings who will only help others for their personal sexual satisfaction? Some people are just decent, jeez.
He doesn't have to tell her what he thinks of the situation frankly just to make her feel better ? You would warn people you care about who are inexperienced enough to get fooled about the probable dangers they might be overlooking. Why would she be worthy of anything With no experience? The guy didn't even know her.
im sorry but Rach should have gone to Paris, it was her dream and if it hadnt been for Ross, she would have been living her dream. Ross loved her no doubt but he never gave priorities or respect Rachel's work
Yeah, but if the series hadn't ended with them getting together, the fans would've rioted.
She didn't sacrifice for Ross, she just chose the path in which she finds her happiest sooo…
I think she should have gone to Paris it would have been great for her career and she would have made very amazing life for herself ❤️
Its her choice
@@lilisa9981 are u kidding me she wanted to get to Paris and she came only for that manchild Ross she should've ended up with Joey TBH
I hated when Ross made all that fuss about the male nanny... like get over yourself
I like how they end the episode showing how Ross was afraid of his feminine side and he sits and cries with the male nanny
It is statistically a safer choice choosing woman. There are more creeps out there in men.
@@katherinepoltoratzky6068 But that's not why Ross made all the fuss, right? He did it because the concept of a male being a nanny was "weird" to him.
@@katherinepoltoratzky6068 yeah but ross didn’t want him just because he was a man. Plus, he was far from creepy. There are creepy women out there too
@@katherinepoltoratzky6068 well that's ridiculous. U can't just hire women cuz some men are creepy. That guy showed no sign of being creepy
When Monica hypes up Rachel with “You go girl!” and Rachel gives her the subtle wink, I was proud to be a woman.
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@@paularies5276 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can't believe I've never noticed that before!
@@mooneymagic4521 isn’t it just so gorgeous!
Time stamp?
I'm so proud of her growth. She started from a dumb spoiled girl to a successful independent woman. She IS a feminist icon. Except she shouldn't have ended up with Ross. He is a kind dude and a good father, but he is also a toxic misogynistic a-hole. Yes, Rachel have been pretty toxic too, but at times she did become the bigger person. And both of them being extremely toxic to each other only add to the reason that they shouldn't be together.
fully agree to the comment..
but isnt mysogynist n feminist same side of coin?
equally bad??
ooops m misogynist aint I? 🤦♂️
@@yogeshjog6072
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a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.
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the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.
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no, they are not the same thing
@@elephorofonius 😁
@@yogeshjog6072 :)
Can u give some examples of his "Toxic Misogyny".
Joey always supported Rachel and her dreams more than Ross. She should of ended up with him but Rachel is the main character in ever situation idc ✨
Same way Monica should have ended up with Richard instead of Chandler
@@Virgin_Succubus642 no no no. Richard will have children with monica if he have to!
Oh my gosh no
Joey and Rachel as a couple was the most forced and unrealistic thing on the show for me. Joey is great but their dynamic was clearly on the friendship side. Ross had his problems but there was actual development for a romantic relation there.
@@Virgin_Succubus642 aww no that relationship was WEIRD. Imagine of Joe grows up and dates chandler and Monica's daughter? Isn't it the same. Dating your parents best friend that saw u as a baby?
HAHAHA I LOVE HER “no uterus no opinion” LMFAOO
I thought feminism was about equality, isn’t that phrase just saying that if you’re a man you’re opinion is invalid? (I’m probably reading too much into it lol)
@@marvthane1604 I think she was talking about the pain she was in or just the pregnancy in general. He can’t say the pain or the kicks is nothing because he’s never experienced it and he never will because he doesn’t have a uterus. It would be like her telling him a kick in the balls is nothing, she couldn’t because she’ll never experience that pain
@@izzyIND29 lol ,its not his opinion that Braxton Hicks contraction are harmless or painless, it's the information given by millions of "women" with a "uterus" who have been pregnant and experienced the same .
Here is the info :
Throughout pregnancy, "painless Braxton Hicks contractions" with simultaneous hardening of the uterus occur.
They are called "false labor pain" , they are due to uterine contraction, a natural process of preparing before the actual pain starts ,its not same as getting hit in the balls.
@@mukund5826 my point still stands. He wasn’t experiencing it, he doesn’t really have a right to tell her what she is or was feeling.
She’s pregnant and she felt something out of the ordinary, of course she’s going to freak. He completely undermined her experience and played it off as if it was nothing. It wouldn’t be difficult to say ‘that must’ve been scary’ or ‘at least you’re fine’.
Also why is women and uterus in quotation marks?
@@izzyIND29 bcoz u said men who don't have uterus cannot speak about it ,so i emphasized it was reported by women with a uterus and not by men .
Lol did u even watch that scene he came running with concern and asked are you ok ,what happened ,then after she told its ok ,i am fine its Braxton Hicks contraction, then him knowing what it is said thats nothing to worry.
Pheobe, Monica and Rachel were feminist queens, all strong, independent, and beautiful women
I can't stop thinking... if Friends were to be made in 2021, I believe the writers would make Rachel end up with Joey. My opinion though.. Joey was a much better partner to her than Ross. With Ross it was toxic but with Joey there was understanding, sacrifices and innocent love..
I am rewatching it now and I am not really very invested in anything in the show apart from the comedy, so I don't care that much who ends up with who, but yes - Rachel is pretty great, Joey, Monica and Chandler are great mixes of good and flaws, but Ross has almost no redeeming qualities, esp. in later seasons it is really difficult to understand what Rachel sees in him. Joey was always genuinly kind and very open minded for a character that was supposed to be that superficial, and Rachel needed that more than some stuffy, really prejudiced guy.
true ross deserved better than rachel
i think the real issue is that they didn't put a romantic relationship between joey and rachel right away. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it should've been earlier, but they could've invested in a romantic plot right when they meet. cause later it just felt weird, yeah joey did some pretty sweet stuff for rachel, but the show had already established a sister-brother thing between these two. so it just felt forced. if they decidided right from the get go that they would be a couple, it would've been way better
And gross kinda love....
The actors confessed it right on set....
Joey loved her for like 2 weeks.... Ross loved her for 20 years u dumba**
@@Pleasureismine69 yea it just became obsession
when you think about it, Ross was super insecure and just all around the worst friend.
I enjoyed a lot of ross on an episode to episode basis, but when it came to his relationship with Rachel he turned into such an arse.
@@zakl940 He really wasn't
@@zakl940 same, ross is a funny character but if he were a real person i wouldn't want to be friends with him
Rachel should’ve either ended up with joey or stayed single and went to Paris. I said what I said.
it would've been amazing if she stayed single honestly
I could live with it if Ross moved to Paris because that would show a lot of growth and they could always break up again.
Especially since they will break up again in six months
This was why I didn't like Ross, he was always whining about shit. Yes Rachel's a whiner too but we see how much she has grown over the years. She was always a powerful woman even in school, but she became her own woman the moment she ran away from home and her wedding.
Yes Ross was always there to see her progress, but most of the time their relationship wasn't stable because they didn't treat each other as equals. Why? Because Ross was paleontologist while Rachel served coffee, or was a secretary, or did fashion.
It's not like how she was with Joey. That relationship was more balanced.
Even though Ross was supposedly smart, he had a lot of growing to do, something Rachel was already ahead of him.
His insecurities were projected onto her and it was extremely shitty of him to try to not get an anullment when he and Rachel both drunk married each other, just because he would become divorced 3 times after that. Yes it's sad, but you don't just put somebody else's life on hold just to make you feel better about your life. That isn't cool man.
It’s quite obvious she was a bully in school btw.
@@Dr.Nihilist yeah she was a bully.... Then she grew up, changed her ways for the most part and became independant. Ross on the other hand still had a lot of growing up to do even though he is older than Rachel.
They were just bad for each other.
"because I wore out my first copy when I was with you" sheesh~ she don't have to do it dirty to my man Ross there.. ouch!
However, she returned ardently with passion for him. The end
Oh u mean that man whenever he gets sad he slept with another woman?
@@akashpandey792 THEY WERE ON A BREAK!
@@akashpandey792 he was drunk, he was vulnerable and a woman forced herself on him. he honestly thought rachel was having sex with mark when he heard his voice on the phone. his girlfriend breaks up with him, he calls her just to find out she is "hanging out" with his biggest insecurity, the reason they broke up in the first place. ross is not the type of person that cheats. let's not forget the fact that rachel sabotaged every healthy relationship ross had (convincing bonnie to shave her head, showing up to his wedding unannounced, etc
Lol, cheating is a choice, and if he becomes so pathetic that he is not man enough to control his character then why he is drinking outside he should drink in his home rather than slipping around@@varshapriya7686
“No uterus, no opinion”
I love this quote
Doesn’t “feminism” stand for equality? It implies that men’s opinions don’t matter. And you love it. TF
💯
@@Iongines men’s opinions don’t matter on someone’s human rights. Opinions don’t matter when it comes to human rights, esp when u dont support them
@@Iongines Umm if its something about uterus then men don't really have any opinions. Just watch the video ;-;
Can’t believe this video didn’t have “And by the way…its not that common, it doesn’t happen to every guy and IT IS A BIG DEAL!”
that's not something to be made fun of. the fact she said that is disgusting.
well, it's not very feminist. It’s actually pretty belittling and would contribute to toxic ideas about masculinity which isn't feminist at all
@@usedits4468 can u explain the joke i didn’t understand it
@@aarushiagarwal3700 it’s a sex joke about not being able to get an erection. It happens sometimes and men might be insecure about it. Her saying “its not that common and it is a big deal” would make it even worse. So it’s just contributing to the idea that men have to be “on it” and ready to go 24/7 which isn’t feminist at all. A feminist would say it’s totally ok for that to happen sometimes and nothing to be ashamed of.
@@usedits4468 aaahhh okay thank you! well i’d have to take ross’ side on that but otherwise rachel was way too good for ross he was toxic
Tbh, while Ross and Rachel were somewhat decent individually (as much as they could be for a sitcom), together they probably became some of the most toxic characters on the show. In real life, this relationship would either end in an ugly divorce, which would honestly be a blessing because the alternative is them being a toxic couple until they die lol.
Yup. Ross had his bas qualities but he wouldn't be nearly as hated if the writers didn't push the Ross/Rachel route. Their "love" made them worse and more unbearable the longer it was on the screen. The goddamn definition of toxic relationship lol.
Rachel deserved waayy better than Ross. She and Joey should've had a better character growth and ended up together❤
So true
joey might have loved her but rachel is just a women who gives in to her dumb pleasures and regrets everything. when joey proposed she said "yes" 🙄
@@varshapriya7686 What?! she was tired and she just had a baby don't you get it ,she is in a difficult situation and you saids it's "dumb pleasure"?
Joey better go with alex😄
Right? Everyone hated them at the time of release but I rewatched their episodes and... Yes, it comes from nowhere but who cares? It's adorable and goofy and lacks the toxicity of Ross/Rachel. Besides, sometimes the impulsive and weird decisions turn out to be the best for us. :)
A lot of this is supposed to be so funny but I’m actually so proud of and admire Rachel and some of these moments make me tear up.
love her manh.! kweenn
yes agreed
I think she had a wonderful character development and I really liked her standing her ground :)
She was my favorite character and in every single video she became a independent woman and ofc she loved it Monica was right “welcome to the real world, it sucks you will love it” and Rachel is loving it. She’s a icon and a 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁
Thank you! I'm so sick of people complaining she's spoiled. I don't think they realize... Rachel was raised to be spoiled, but she decided on her own that she didn't want that for herself. She may like nice things, but she worked hard to find a job where she can support her own needs and likes. She kept trying to push past her comfort zone to be something other than the spoiled princess she would've otherwise been. By the end of it, she was independent, self-sufficient, successful, and a loving mother, too.
“I wore out my first copy when I was with you” 👏👏
Ross: I guess you bought that book after we broke up, huh?
Rachel: Uh-huh. Yeah, I did because I wore out my first copy while I was with you.
The Audience: BUUUURRRNNN!!!
Don't know about being a feminist icon but she is iconic yes
Its funny how Ross just had a breakdown for about 5 years the second Mark came onto the scene.
I love Rachel and Jennifer Aniston...if only Friends was on Netflix ✋😭
I LIVE IN THE U.S GUYS
It is
@@m.r.sportedits6153 maybe it is in a different part of the world but not in the U.S...I checked 😭
@@RadiantRubyRose in Germany it is. In German and English...
@@RadiantRubyRose it is in uk :)
It is on Netflix
Joey and Rachel was a much healthier relationship than Rachel and Ross. Ross was possessive and jealous and narcissistic, they fought constantly and their relationship was completely toxic. Rachel and Joey’s relationship was warm and they had way more in common and they protected each other with the ferocity only true friends and partners do. Ship Joey and Rachel❤️❤️❤️
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!
Joey and rachel never had such relationship,they just tried it and it didnt work out,rachel herself said it was weird because they were friends for too long and what they had was just sexual
@@Vinsmokesanji790 i think so but if they were to end up it's much healthier
@@thaobui7805 how can u know something that never happened, joey is the most untrustworthy person in the group for a relationship and they dont feel that way either,u r just following the trend of hating ross
@@Vinsmokesanji790 i hate most aspect of Ross án I'm not "following a trend", and Joey have a few character development in the final seasons I belive Joey can change unlike Ross who is much more selfish until the end
To be honest I love the fact that she had that privileged life that many would envy but she leaved that life because she wanted to live an independent one although it might look like it was a stupid decisions to do in the beginning but after sometime when she got her big job at a fashion company it was very nice for her and finally she made it I would have loved it sheet have gone to Parisbecause it would have been amazing for her career and on the long run also but the producers wanted them to be together writers wanted them to be together so she stayed with Ross.
THAT LAST LINE OF THE VIDEO 😭 so iconic
she's a literal queen
Despite the episode when Ross did her makeup awfully and she remarked, “great, I’ll just sit next to the transsexual from purchasing” (or whatever department), I think Rachel is a great feminist overall.
It was a different time believe me . You must be too young to remember.
@@mastersnet18not an excuse ☺️
@@luvanujj don't be ridiculous, she was simply making a light hearted joke
@@shanfarco1574 yeah transphobia… so funny!
@@luvanujj It was a completely different time,and it was quite light hearted,it’s not like she completely and wholeheartedly said a transphobic comment
I adore her.
Despite the 90's being a shit show, I'm happy that Rachel was one of the most iconic characters of that time. She probably made many women do a double take and question things about their lives.
I wore out my first copy when I was with you..
This is lit..😂😂
Rachel is arguably my favorite character (arguably because I like all of them lol)
This is more like Rachel Green being a Boss Lady for 448 seconds.
Aka a feminist❤
That's how I feel about the old men outside of Planned Parenthood with the signs saying stop abortions: no uterus, no opinion.
What about a woman (who has a uterus) that doesn’t think abortion should be legal?
Rachel Green is basically Ginny Weasley(Books) of FRIENDS 👩🏻👩🏻🦰
Nah I’d say she’s more of a hemronie
@@bsbndnd2082 it’s because u have only seen the movies. Ginny is phenomenal in the books.
Monica is more of Hermione.
And this means phoebe is Luna lovegood
@@sunflowerday1420 I also noticed that.
Ginny is not toxic
no uterus no opinion , i remember making this my bio for so long
Monica was a bigger feminist always standing up fr women..
No uterus no opinion 🙆♀️😂
Wrong. The debate concerns both men and women, this is called democracy. Go back to high school.
@@diegomendonca6496 ok incel
@@emiliawilson4378 can't digest an opinion? Hate men? I guess thats what make you an incel.
“No uterus, no opinion” *iconic*
This is exactly why I love Rachel Green the most
to the creator of this video-
after watching this, and finding somone who mirrored my opinions on friends perfectly, I went to your channel. You may not have any other videos, and thats chill, but the fact tat you have a thousand subscribers with only one vid speaks to the quality of content. Good for you, its amazing and I think thats so awesome.
the last scene was the best "i wore out my first copy when i was with you" 😂
"I wore out my first copy when I went out with you."
I didn’t realize what a strong queen she was. What an icon 💓💓💓💓
👏we👏Stan👏this👏 queen 👏
irl, ross and rachel would have never worked out, but i think everyone enjoyed them getting back together at the end. istg all these comments about them not being together are ruining friends for me
rachel had the best growth.
Ross is so bad and play the victim the whole series it's unbelievable
One of his biggest problems is that he can never get over his pride, at least not until it’s too late. Remember when he moved into his apartment building and refused to pay the money. He shouldn’t have had to give 100 dollars to someone he didn’t know but he should’ve made a compromise like chipping into the party where he would get to know his neighbors and get on their good side or just give the man half of the hundred. 50 bucks isn’t a lot of money for him especially if it helps him in the long run. Instead he spent more than he was asked to give on another party to be petty and it heavily backfired.
Yess cause Rachel never played the victim, she literally balded Ross's girlfriend cause she knew that would sabotage their relationship, she forced ross to stay single and not date anyone when she was pregnant just because she didn't "like it", and ross was so sweet he agreed to her demand, she literally blamed it on ross on the night they had Emma saying he made the first move lying when she knew very well that she made the first move on him, but lied to everyone just to one up Ross and humiliate him in front of his friends, and now all of a sudden people are talking like she's a perfect little angel who had no faults and blaming the whole thing on ross, when the truth is they both were equally toxic and immature
regardless of whether you like her or not, rachel green could definately be deemed as a 90s feminist icon!
PERIOD my queen
The Icelandic ad I got… matched a lot with this video (basically men saying how other men shouldn’t be doing shit to girls like guilt tripping, sent dps to females without acceptance and such)
"No uterus no opinion" we stan our RadFem queen
Rachel is my favorite in the show
"Come on, Daddy, listen to me! It's like all my life everyone has always told me 'You're a shoe!', 'You're a shoe!', 'You're a shoe!" *Everybody turns to listen* "And then today I just stopped and I said 'What if I don't want to be a shoe? What if I want to be a purse, you know? O-or, or a hat?!'" *Pause* "No, I don't want you to buy me a hat-!" ""-IT'S A METAPHOR, DADDY!"
i like how the comments has a lot to say against Rachel/Ross relationship when back then audiences absolutely flamed the show because everyone hated Rachel/Joey
Joey would've never asked her to stay. He would've gone to Paris with her.
i love her sm
I know it’s not the point but 2:39 they’re so cute 🥰 I didn’t know they were matching
I liked the episode where her sister Jill comes to visit her and says her dad told her to go and get some life advice from the one daughter he is actually proud of. That said everything that needed to be said. Rachel started off very spoiled but turned herself into a someone. And both parents were inspired by her, thats why her mother copied her and decided to leave 'her Barry' because he wasn't making her happy.
What annoys about 2:56 is that he asks JOEY. Any other man would have said no hahaha
i honestly always hated Ross, i dont know why people picture him like a sweetheart, he is a really bad person.
i didn’t love how she was treating julie and how she got with Paulo after he groped pheobe
Tbf with Paulo she didn’t know he did that after she did she broke up with him
@@e8k6qubbsspqs63 yea but then later on, when she was jealous of ross being with julie, she hooked up with him again and he groped pheobe again
Faryal Shams no he only groped pheobe after he and Rachel got together and as mention before Rachel broke up with him because of that
@@e8k6qubbsspqs63 rewatch season 2, episode 1 again. he touches her ass w/o her consent there too
Faryal Shams season 2 ep 1 is the episode where Rachel is sad that Ross has a girlfriend. The episode is even called the one with Ross’s new girlfriend. Paulo does not even show up.
That last comeback was so epic 😭😭 She killed him on the spot 😭
Alright I'll say it-
-Rachel wasn't a feminist icon (as there were times she has acted toxic towards other women/men)
-Instead she was an "independent woman" icon (like just look at how she grew up from being a spoilt brat to an ambitious woman)
👍
7:05 - 7:08 She sounds so much like Jean Milburn from Sex education.
Ross should not have cheated. Period.
5:54 you go girl and then that wink and the subtle smile lmao love them
I'm seriously disappointed in this comment section and their replies....can't we all just enjoy this amazing series without hating on any of the characters? all of the characters aren't. PERFECT please understand that. thank you now you can go watch friends
I loved when she went to confront Barry with Mindy.
No uterus - no opinion, I love that!
Doesn't sound like a feminist as much as I thought but definetely an icon.
These seem very feminist to me
She hired tag instead of Hilda.. 😏how can you even call her a feminist when she hired a guy in place of an experienced woman only because he was hot.. 🤷♀️
Haha they are blind under their fake feminist illusion.
We don't mention those logical arguments here.
I'm so, so glad that Rachel is getting her due praise. She's the most hated character on Friends and people always blame her for Ross' failed relationships. I thought that was the case until I watched the show (best show I've ever watched, helped me with my mental health 😭) . I've always admired her for these reasons: her becoming independent even though she could live off a much more comfortable life off her dad's money.
Rachel shouldn't have settled for Ross.... She could find much secure guy
LOVE HER.
3:10 to be fair, Mark did make a move after Rachel and Ross broke up
She's a pushover.
Monica is a better representative.
Phoebe is best representative as she had to deal with every worse things possible.
When people are discussing whether Rachel should have gone to Paris or not, they always name Ross as the reason, but am I the only one who just didn't want Rachel to leave New York, because of the group as a whole? Like I couldn't imagine them splitting up and not living so close to each other.
That’s how the show ended tho.. Joey went to Hollywood, chandler and Monica moved moved, Phoebe got married and started her life, and Ross and Rachel would’ve been divorced by now lol
@@MEDSZ13.08 Not in my world. In my world the Joey show never happened and Joey stayed in NY and occasionally lives with Chandler and Monica when he's visiting the suburbs (he's either an actor or he sells sandwiches in New York haha), Phoebe and Mike got married, they live in a nice apartment and hang out with Joey a lot. Rachel and Ross bought a house near Monica and Chandler's and their kids are good friends. The whole group meets up regularly.
Same!!
I now understand why it was that I never liked Ross in the series, he’s so closed minded about feminism and really shows toxic masculinity in some parts
The guy was raised that way I don't see you blaming Rachel for being a spoilt brat demanding everything to be done her way....
@@nikitagigigeorge8572 I’m not blaming him I’m just saying I discovered why he was my least favorite character not that it’s his fault, he’s just an actor who follows the script hahaha
@@luciaradulescu2431 I'm talking about Ross not David Schwimmer, Ross's character had a lot of issues with his dad as a kid, there was a scene where he says that his dad used to shout at him when he used to stay at home and watch Golden Girls and uses to belittle him for being too girly as a kid, he was insulted to that extent by his father so when he sees ben playing with a barbie or a male nanny he reacts that way cause his father raised him like that he was also worried about Ben getting bullied by ppl just like he was by his dad when he watched Golden girls and stayed inside
@@luciaradulescu2431 all I'm noticing this whole comment section belittling Ross for behaving that way to that nanny, and talking about his toxic masculinity when he's literally grown that way, but everyone justifies Rachel's spoilt brattiness behaviour by saying she was brought up that way, when it'd the sane case for Ross
@@nikitagigigeorge8572 oh right that’s true, tbh I kind of forgot about his dad but yeah that makes sense because toxic masculinity often transfers from generation to generation and if Rachel or others would’ve tried to talk to him instead of fight then it would’ve probably been better
I love u for posting this🥳
She is such an icon guys
Misogynistic brigade made “ I hate Rachel club”..
I mean she never cheated on Ross..she did loved him no matter what. she is a Wonder Woman.
That’s why I love her..and don’t get it why people hate Rachel soo much.
You seriously don't know why people hate Rachel so much. You must be stupid
calling chandler’s mom a man wasn’t very feminist of her
or hiring a guy just because he's cute instead of hiring a qualified woman who's actually suitable for the job
when was that?
@@wallywest2020 exactly
They all did it tho
But isn't Chandler's dad a drag queen and not a trans woman?
THE LAST ONE OH MY GOD
2:57 Doesn't that say more about you Ross.
Totally like u....
@@Pleasureismine69 sorry?
Exactly, the three guys were so misogynistic at times and i just can’t help but skip…
@@jxvibes8901 yes, and considering that Ross's character has always been depicted as "the nice guy" and the entire first season we were supposed to cheer for him, and that Rachel would choose him and finaly see what a "nice guy" he was.
honestly loving this
ross was awful about the mark thing, he either thinks rachel's looks are worth more than anything else or thinks rachel doesn't have any will and she's just an object that mark can take away from him. either way, no respect
"how do you expect me to grow when you won't let me blow"
great vid !! u need more subs :D
she is the fine line between feminist and feminin
Except that almost every scene ended up completly the opposite 😅
When ross started saying ' It's like if a woman wanted to be a..' ISTG I WAS ABOUT TO PUNCH MY SCREEN
Rachel is NOT a feminist icon. She always got bratty and rude whenever Ross had girlfriends. Not that Ross is a good person either but his girlfriends were for the most part normal people and Rachel was always rude to them. I wouldn't call a feminist a woman who puts other women down because they're dating her ex.
but she became independent. Her growth was insane
Amé este compilado... I loved this video 💞💕💜
She had her moments but she was very flawed
i love her so much !!