Had mine for 2 years now and I’m still perfectly happy with it 😊 It‘s robust, nothing ever broke, runs smooth as ever. I bought the front rack and the Paniers on the side. Perfect for all kind of shopping needs! 👍🏻 But it’s really a city-bike only! It has no shock absorbers at all, so you‘ll feel each and every bump on uneven surfaces.
I’m based in the PNW(Canada) and was considering the Quick Haul d8 and the Aventon Abound for ferrying my wife and me across the city. Was really tempted to get the Quick haul but ultimately decided against it because the primary purpose was for the bike to carry both of our loads. I quickly felt exhausted when on the Quick Haul but the Aventon was a breeze In comparison. Lots of hills where I live so I ultimately decided on the Abound. But man is it a heavy bike! I stay in a condo so need to drag that 80 pound giant every time I want to go outside. It’s in this one respect that I wish I’d gone with the quick haul but oh well
I was on the edge ready to buy this bike. I too carry large/heavy loads (100lbs of cat litter - 2 boxes at Costco), groceries etc. This is NOT A CHEAP BIKE and I agree, it should do better up the hills with a load. I suspect the Bosch Cargo line motor is really the only solution but even more moola. Can't wait for your review of the Aventon. Cheers.
Thanks for watching! It really is a nice bike overall, but doesn’t quite cut it on the hills, unfortunately 🤷♀️ I’ve also tried the Tern HSD and GSD and they do have more power-but also cost a lot more. The Aventon Abound has been really great so far. Stay tuned!
Thank you for all of your useful insight. I'm considering a class3 ebike as well and your point about the struggle with load helped me reframe my goals. Yes, I want an ebike that's fast, however, what I really need is an ebike that has the capability to maintain a reasonable speed with load. Plus, when it's loaded up, going too fast might be a bit dangerous.
This was great, glad for your review and honest assessment. Looking forward to the other review. I give you credit I have become a wimp in my old age, I just have not been biking in this upper 80’s and 90’s weather. Am truly looking forward to cooler weather so I can ride more. Did you see where Chris Cross is coming to Nashville for an e-bike ride on September 15.
I've had my P9 for about three weeks and I'm really happy with it. It's really changed how I get around and how I do things. It makes hills doable. Definitely wish I could go faster uphill (especially when I run out of juice) but more and more cycle ways are going on so it will get safer uphill.
Thank you for your detailed review. So healing and helpful! I was surprised that you took the bike to shop in the walmart. Do other groceries like wholefoods allow small bikes come in? I think it will be so fun to grocery shop with quick haul but worried to park outside since it is expensive.
now that you have the Abound, how does that compare to the quick haul? solved your hill climbing problems or no? The new Quick Haul Long has a new motor at 85Nm.
I only bought the Abound because it was able to maintain ~20 mph (without cargo) on the Charlotte Pike hill in downtown Nashville, nearly twice as fast as what the Quick Haul did on the same hill. Quick Haul reaches higher speeds on flat terrain but the extra torque on the Abound is noticeable (before it hits the 20 mph limit). I’ll share all the details in the next video!
I'm a little surprised you went for the Aventon. I've had the impression that it was of a lower quality, but I've never ridden one. I have a Globe Haul ST and it flies up steep hills (there are a lot of them where I live) with whatever I've loaded it with. I wonder if it has something to do with the Globe Haul having the motor in the rear hub instead of the mid-drive. A mid-drive loses about 10% of efficiency due to the chain. The closer you have the motor to the wheel the more efficient it is. I'll be interested to see how the Aventon works for you.
I'm super interested to see how the Abound handles your hills. The Performance Sport motor does a pretty good job but it does require you to pedal harder to get from 18mph+ compared to the Bosch Performance Speed which is a more even increase of speed curve up to 27-28mph
I have found the Abound to be a much easier experience on hill in the PNW. Even better has been the Specialized Globe Haul which I ended up purchasing a few months ago. The is a sustained hill at a 10 degree grade that I have to tow my kiddo over each morning on the way to school. On PAS 5 I can maintain a speed of 22-24mph with relative ease. If I go throttle only, I can still cruise at about 16mph. There was a lot to like about the Tern options but ultimately the Globe Haul fit into my use case much better. Love your content btw!
He got the P9. It was ok on hills without heavy loads. I have a Cube Supreme 400 (same motor as P9) and its good. I can go up hills at around 18mph without much effort.
Horrible bike. Bought one ( D5) six months ago. Nothing but issues. Assistance dropped a couple of times. Vendor claimed bike was ok. Then the nexus 5 started slipping. Vendor claimed bike was ok. But then, the bike completely locked up, broke the transmission, rear disk brake and completely knocked out the rear wheel. It's still at the vendor for repair now and it should fall under warranty but I think if I get it back, I'll sell it. Never rode it further than 3 miles because I couldn't trust it and would have to walk back.
Awesome, and I'm totally here for the co-host!!
BSG! Hope you and yours are well.
Had mine for 2 years now and I’m still perfectly happy with it 😊 It‘s robust, nothing ever broke, runs smooth as ever. I bought the front rack and the Paniers on the side. Perfect for all kind of shopping needs! 👍🏻 But it’s really a city-bike only! It has no shock absorbers at all, so you‘ll feel each and every bump on uneven surfaces.
I’m based in the PNW(Canada) and was considering the Quick Haul d8 and the Aventon Abound for ferrying my wife and me across the city. Was really tempted to get the Quick haul but ultimately decided against it because the primary purpose was for the bike to carry both of our loads. I quickly felt exhausted when on the Quick Haul but the Aventon was a breeze In comparison. Lots of hills where I live so I ultimately decided on the Abound. But man is it a heavy bike! I stay in a condo so need to drag that 80 pound giant every time I want to go outside. It’s in this one respect that I wish I’d gone with the quick haul but oh well
I was on the edge ready to buy this bike. I too carry large/heavy loads (100lbs of cat litter - 2 boxes at Costco), groceries etc. This is NOT A CHEAP BIKE and I agree, it should do better up the hills with a load. I suspect the Bosch Cargo line motor is really the only solution but even more moola. Can't wait for your review of the Aventon. Cheers.
Thanks for watching! It really is a nice bike overall, but doesn’t quite cut it on the hills, unfortunately 🤷♀️ I’ve also tried the Tern HSD and GSD and they do have more power-but also cost a lot more. The Aventon Abound has been really great so far. Stay tuned!
Thank you for all of your useful insight.
I'm considering a class3 ebike as well and your point about the struggle with load helped me reframe my goals. Yes, I want an ebike that's fast, however, what I really need is an ebike that has the capability to maintain a reasonable speed with load. Plus, when it's loaded up, going too fast might be a bit dangerous.
This was great, glad for your review and honest assessment. Looking forward to the other review. I give you credit I have become a wimp in my old age, I just have not been biking in this upper 80’s and 90’s weather. Am truly looking forward to cooler weather so I can ride more. Did you see where Chris Cross is coming to Nashville for an e-bike ride on September 15.
I've had my P9 for about three weeks and I'm really happy with it. It's really changed how I get around and how I do things. It makes hills doable. Definitely wish I could go faster uphill (especially when I run out of juice) but more and more cycle ways are going on so it will get safer uphill.
So where's your review of the Aveton ??? Cheers
Thank you for your detailed review. So healing and helpful! I was surprised that you took the bike to shop in the walmart. Do other groceries like wholefoods allow small bikes come in? I think it will be so fun to grocery shop with quick haul but worried to park outside since it is expensive.
Bike Friday Haul a Day is the lightest!
now that you have the Abound, how does that compare to the quick haul? solved your hill climbing problems or no? The new Quick Haul Long has a new motor at 85Nm.
My bet is the Abound will not do better on the steep hills. Can't wait to see your update!
I only bought the Abound because it was able to maintain ~20 mph (without cargo) on the Charlotte Pike hill in downtown Nashville, nearly twice as fast as what the Quick Haul did on the same hill. Quick Haul reaches higher speeds on flat terrain but the extra torque on the Abound is noticeable (before it hits the 20 mph limit). I’ll share all the details in the next video!
@@CarFreeinTennessee Looking forward to the cargo test!
I was bummed when I found out you didnt release the abound video! :(
hope you're doing okay!
I'm a little surprised you went for the Aventon. I've had the impression that it was of a lower quality, but I've never ridden one. I have a Globe Haul ST and it flies up steep hills (there are a lot of them where I live) with whatever I've loaded it with. I wonder if it has something to do with the Globe Haul having the motor in the rear hub instead of the mid-drive. A mid-drive loses about 10% of efficiency due to the chain. The closer you have the motor to the wheel the more efficient it is. I'll be interested to see how the Aventon works for you.
I'm super interested to see how the Abound handles your hills. The Performance Sport motor does a pretty good job but it does require you to pedal harder to get from 18mph+ compared to the Bosch Performance Speed which is a more even increase of speed curve up to 27-28mph
It'll struggle just the same
I have found the Abound to be a much easier experience on hill in the PNW. Even better has been the Specialized Globe Haul which I ended up purchasing a few months ago. The is a sustained hill at a 10 degree grade that I have to tow my kiddo over each morning on the way to school. On PAS 5 I can maintain a speed of 22-24mph with relative ease. If I go throttle only, I can still cruise at about 16mph.
There was a lot to like about the Tern options but ultimately the Globe Haul fit into my use case much better.
Love your content btw!
Does it really feel premium? Or is the XPedition good enough for cheaper?
Nice bicycle!
I have a HSD s11 and i get what you mean about hills. Hows it working out with the Abound? Really curious!
Did you get the D8 or the p9? How did it handle hills without the heavy loads? Thank you
He got the P9. It was ok on hills without heavy loads. I have a Cube Supreme 400 (same motor as P9) and its good. I can go up hills at around 18mph without much effort.
Horrible bike. Bought one ( D5) six months ago. Nothing but issues. Assistance dropped a couple of times. Vendor claimed bike was ok. Then the nexus 5 started slipping. Vendor claimed bike was ok. But then, the bike completely locked up, broke the transmission, rear disk brake and completely knocked out the rear wheel. It's still at the vendor for repair now and it should fall under warranty but I think if I get it back, I'll sell it. Never rode it further than 3 miles because I couldn't trust it and would have to walk back.