Just had a tech over today; my Gibson furnace was doing almost the same as this one for close to a week. I had to tap the valve to get it to release gas (which I am well aware is a no-no). Of course as soon as he shows up it starts working again 😀 He did a full diagnosis and was only getting about 18-21 V going to the valve. He determined the control board was faulty (which I also suspected) and replaced that. I also had him replace the gas valve since he was there. Really glad I did because I’d rather rely on his skills, trains, experience, equipment, and safe practices for that part. He also found the old valve somehow wasn’t very tight to at least one of the pipes (I forget if it was the inlet or outlet). I had the same existing Honeywell gas valve as shown here; my new valve is pretty much the same as the replacement here except mine doesn’t has a shutoff on top. But it is the right one for my model. His manometer linked to his phone through Bluetooth which was kinda cool. Amazingly it was already showing 3.5, as if it were pre-set. While we were talking I found out he’s also a big fan of yours. That tells me I got the right guy.
What the capacitor does is it creates a phase shift in the AC sine wave coming in to energize one set of windings at a slight delay, so you get a rotating magnetic field. Some motors do it with thinner gage start windings, some do it with a shaded pole. Technical enough for you? 😆
This was a challenging project. Good job, Steve! Another example of product designers who do not consider the poor slob trying to repair the damned thing.
After watching these vids, I feel lucky that my 1988 Williamson 90+ furnace has not needed repairs, unlike so many newer furnaces that Steve runs across.
Couldn't agree more. My 1987 mid-efficiency furnace still runs like a top. In 29 years, I've only had one issue. The electric motor crapped out in Feb.2020. It took 2 days to find a replacement. I had the original motor repaired. Cost was $40.00. I installed the brand new motor, and kept the original as a spare.
Guys like this keep America going. I used to have a house with an old gas-fired steam boiler, and having the number of someone who could come out and do a solid job made all the difference. 🏆
You're 100 % correct Steve ... the best explanation for a capacitor is that it "Modulates" current to a motor (in and out) ... prevents the start up Amp surge from damaging the wiring ... a "buffer" so to speak ... and it's sacrificial, as they heat up a degrade over time ... cheap insurance as it's easier/cheaper to change one out then replace an expensive motor ...
Many AC motors are wound to have very high efficiency when running. Unfortunately, this configuration has low starting torque and the motor can't start without some spin assistance. Typically, a second winding is added to these motors just to add starting torque. A centrifugal switch inside the motor switches in this 2nd winding when the motor is stopped or spinning slow. But, the extra winding alone isn't enough. What we want is the 2nd winding to get its current a bit ahead of the main winding which will develop the torque needed to spin up. And by ahead, that's measured in degrees of the 60 cycle AC voltage. All we need is about 30 degrees of lead on the 2nd winding current and off we go. How do we do that? From fundamental electric theory, we can place a capacitor in series with the 2nd winding and the current in that winding will now lead the current in the primary winding. Theoretically, you can get up to 45 degrees of phase shift from a single capacitor, but due to resistance and other factors, 30 degrees is the typical target. Knowing the inductance and resistance of the 2nd winding, and that we're operating at 60 Hertz, allows calculating the size of the capacitor to get the needed phase shift. Once the motor spins up and the centrifugal switch opens, the capacitor and the 2nd winding are not used. There are a few variations of this scheme, but they all exploit the phase shift the capacitor imposes. Some AC motors have a run capacitor and a start capacitor. If the capacitor goes bad, typically, you can't start and the motor simply sits there and gets very warm. There's a lot of literature about how all of this works if you want to do a bit of web research. Happy to contribute here. Got my engineering degree many years ago from a school in Steve's neighborhood.
I attended a training in Belgium way back 20 Years ago for some US made cold trap. The guy who hold the training explained that you should never touch the compressor capacitor terminal. He pointed to the terminal without looking at the terminal.😬 The lucky guy hit it with a finger and just was airborne by his legs muscle contractions.😂 The 30 of us got into an hilarious laughing and him pretty red faced😂 He learned a lesson too and made us a real life education.
I initially thought it was the igniter as it seemed to me to be a bit dull as far as brightness…I realize it has a shield around it, plus you could hear the gas flow every time the gas valve clicked open…that said, it definitely fired harder after the gas valve was replaced. May have been plugging up with crap/low flow rate. Glad you relocated the cap for the blower fan…
Great job Steven. That is one of the best flames I have seen on a furnace in a while, all blue. Lot better than before you replaced the gas valve where there was a lot of orange and yellow.
You got a great vid out on capacitors and it explains everything about them . It was made a few years back for those interested ... Thx for posting ... Hey to chest bumper Molly ...
How to tell when you're NEXT LEVEL is When you take the time during work hours to talk to a fan who clearly wants to thank you for your work and take a call from another guy you cant get on the phone for a week that has a job 1 1/2 hrs away and will still go do it..thats a trooper.
I was over my mother in law's house today. The temperature in the house was below the thermostat's setting. Why would a furnace repeatedly run, then shut itself off after a few minutes? It's an oil-fired unit with a domestic hot water tank attached. A service tech was called and he said keep and eye on it. He hadn't slept in 2 days because he's been running call to call.
Wow that guy calling in like that. I always thought I might call Steve if I ever ran into a problem I couldn't solve while in some huge urgent time sensitive scenario. But so far I haven't had to resort to calling Steve. Another great video.
Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again y’all. 👍👍. From the length of this video, I had a feeling it was going to be more than the replacement of a cap, lol Nice work Steve as always!
You can hear the gas being releases when the valve opens, I wonder if it’s a plugged up slot in the burner, or weak igniter. When you hear the valve open match light it- that will tell you if it’s opening or not
I live in a mobile home my furnace died on boxing day 20/21 i called the Plummer he here in 25 minutes (on boxing day) The Furnace:Intertherm Inducer Motor pilled. He had another one in another truck or Van they have Any way 1.5 hours later furnace purring away Bill was $414.23 I live in a small town 5th generation here. Thanks to our plumbers who put up with alot to keep our asses warm my 2 cents worth
I had this happen yesterday. Replaced/adjusted the igniter so it’s glowing closer to gas air mixture. Arrived and the hot surface igniter was smoked. Replaced it and it would glow but not ignite. Tested 24 volts at gas valve. Replaced gas valve but still wouldn’t ignite. I found the hot surface igniter was not close enough to the burner tube and had to tweak the igniter to make it function correctly
Never look back otherwise you will be tie ing yourself in knots. Maybe you will change a part that doesn’t need it. But you have to keep moving forward
@@philipaday27 if you think this way you will never learn from past mistakes. Why do you think football coaches watch hundreds of hours of game film? Even if their decision wound up being successful, it may have not been the correct one. In this case, if he would've tested it as described, not only may he not have had to change the valve, but he would also save a return trip to get the valve and install it, which could also take it from same day repair to next week repair
@@realSamAndrew the gas valve was an aftermarket valve that was not listed compatible with furnace, so it was replaced and left in place for this reason. Had I thought the gas valve was still good, I would’ve ate the gas valve cost and moved on. Coincidently, I had the same thing happen on another after hours call 2 days later. In that case I found the heat exchanger was cracked not allowing for proper combustion with inducer and main blower running. So moving the igniter or adjusting closer to the burner jet isn’t always the answer.
That universal ignitor is causing the issue seen this problem many times. When they start getting weak, they will not glow all the way down to the bottom of the stick and cause intermittent ignition problems.
I’m guessing that igniter is bad. The only part glowing is above the gas stream and you could hear the gas run every time. The few times it ignited, there was a lot of rollout. Other times the stream of gas never touches the hot part of the igniter.
I was thinking that... seemed like there wasn't much in the path of the gas to actually ignite it. And you could hear the gas every single time the valve clicked. I was also thinking a bad heat exchanger... when the blower came on the first time (23:20), the flames really seemed to dance and change colors. I think he should've checked carbon monoxide coming out of vents regardless, a good safety precaution.
Check the ohms on gas valve. Do you check for gas leaks after replacing gas parts? I haven't seen you do it a few times? Nice job moving the placement of the capacitor. Glad you got it going for the lady.
That makes sense. What is the difference in farad capacities? Do the different values adjust the sine wave further out of sync? Maybe for larger motors?
@@jersey-dude not really the expert on this but at a guess in ac the larger capacity capacitor would allow more energy to flow, so a larger capacitor would mean larger motor starting current?
It’s hard to explain that the capacitor on ac shifts the phase and creates a rotating field - needed for single phase motors. But you need to break out a friggin chart with sine waves to visualize it lol. That’s why when they crap out it can’t spin, or hooked up wrong make it spin the wrong way.
I visualize cranks of a bike. If the cranks are installed at 0 degrees and 180 degrees (normal) it is easy to pedal the bike. If the cranks were only 90 degrees apart, it would be easy at part of the cycle, and impossible at the other part of the cycle. A 3 phase motor has a "crank" exactly 120 degrees away from the other crank, making 3 cranks. With single phase, we are trying to spread away the two phases from eachother to get the motor up to speed (Start capacitor.) Some motors do not need the capacitor once it reaches 70-100% speed. Motors that require more torque can be fitted with a run capacitor... or better go 3 phase. A failed start capacitor is basically like having a bike with only one crank. If you can get the motor started, it can sometimes keep running, but wont reach full speed.
I learned a lot watching your videos. I’m just wondering why you didn’t check that old gas valve with your manometer before doing the disassembly. I’ve seen you test them that way in other videos.
Not trolling, just curious, did you check the gas pressure on the old valve? Maybe it needed adjusting? And did the ignitor look weak in real life, it looked like it was only half working on the video. I'm glad the new valve fixed it and there have been no call backs!
Love it when he calls trolls blow bags. Lol. They don't think a cap holds a good charge. I got 2 - 1.50 farad caps from my old car Amp install. I will charge them up and let them put there tongue on it. They will Jake your nuts hurt.
Seems kind of weird to put the igniter on burner 4 and the flame sensor on burner 3. Makes more sense to put the igniter on burner 1 and the sensor on 4. The igniter would turn off before the gas valve did too which was also strange. Almost as if it didn't allow itself enough time for the gas to catch.
@@ohioplayer-bl9em replace board. There should be a sequence of operation for the timings of the board functions that will give each step in seconds for each function.
Read most of the comments . I thought it might have been the air proving switch ( that,s what we call them in UK ) or a blocked tube as there was a delay before gas valve got its 24 voltage. Time will tell
There is one thing I noticed was with the flame color flaring yellow just a little bit when the blower kicked on. Just enough to suggest a pinhole leak in the heat exchange. Just enough to cause a draft.
Thought the exact same thing. I had to cap 4 RTUS with bad heat exchangers last week. 2 of them were tripped on roll-out.. go figure. Made it 21 years.
Hi. Just found your videos. Great content. I noticed you used alligator clip to jump it in order to prime the line. Our gauge went bad, tank emptied and I'm in that boat. Can this be done with honeywell R7284u control. Thanks
I looked it up and its what you said, The main job of capacitors is to store electrons to provide start-up energy for your motor. The olé' booster shot Ma-Ma!
Steven don't feel bad I have customers call me to adjust there thermostat because they don't want to touch it because they are afraid they are going to break it when I explained it 20 times to them on how to work it and adjust it I spend all day adjusting people's thermostat because they don't understand it
did u check make sure they Didn't turn Gas off as well as the Switch? they may have? As its strange if it was Working With a Bad Cap in it But now not since, Maybe when some one shut it off they turned Gas off too?
I do not miss the North. This was one of the things that scared me. Heat out in the Winter, hard freeze. Now I am in SW FL. A/C down here is king. I actually lost a capacitor on my condenser this summer. Damn straight I went and got it from my guy (it was Sunday, it's always a Sunday) when he told me it was the best he could do. He was super nice and gave me a second cap. Tell them about the start and run windings and run and start caps. sure shit they will hurt you. Come to Florida for a week.
Same shit happened to me on a job , i ended up spray7some wd40 inside gas valve both in and out put and then tap on it . It should loosen valve up . Worked for me and customer
Great repair again Steve! These designer that put components just anywhere need to use their head in thinking in time of service make reasonable common sense to help speedy up repairs by repairman! It’s ridiculous on some appliances you literally have to tear apart just to replace a simple part but then spend additional time putting the appliance back together. Well done on the capacitor mount in front! Thanks for sharing your work, enjoy watching all of them! Martinsburg, WV USA
Ignitor was broken and shorted letting it still come on but not completely in the flow of the burner. You could hear the gas valve click and gas flow each attempt at ignition.
Steve, you take fan calls? I figure if you take two a day, with 169k subscribers you could get through us all in less than 250 years!!!!! Come on people, enjoy his videos, don't creep on him and call him, unless you need a plumber and you are local. And leave the guy a like for crying out loud, he knows who you people that watch and don't leave a like are!! Lol.
Love the phone calls in this one. Steve gets fan club calls.
Just had a tech over today; my Gibson furnace was doing almost the same as this one for close to a week. I had to tap the valve to get it to release gas (which I am well aware is a no-no). Of course as soon as he shows up it starts working again 😀
He did a full diagnosis and was only getting about 18-21 V going to the valve. He determined the control board was faulty (which I also suspected) and replaced that. I also had him replace the gas valve since he was there. Really glad I did because I’d rather rely on his skills, trains, experience, equipment, and safe practices for that part. He also found the old valve somehow wasn’t very tight to at least one of the pipes (I forget if it was the inlet or outlet).
I had the same existing Honeywell gas valve as shown here; my new valve is pretty much the same as the replacement here except mine doesn’t has a shutoff on top. But it is the right one for my model. His manometer linked to his phone through Bluetooth which was kinda cool. Amazingly it was already showing 3.5, as if it were pre-set.
While we were talking I found out he’s also a big fan of yours. That tells me I got the right guy.
Gotta admire the confidence that experience gives you when troubleshooting the system. Great work guy !!
You are the best Steve. You talk like every man’s man and I think we all relate to you. Thanks for sharing
What the capacitor does is it creates a phase shift in the AC sine wave coming in to energize one set of windings at a slight delay, so you get a rotating magnetic field. Some motors do it with thinner gage start windings, some do it with a shaded pole. Technical enough for you? 😆
This was a challenging project. Good job, Steve! Another example of product designers who do not consider the poor slob trying to repair the damned thing.
Guy designing the unit: I’d hate to be the guy to repair this furnace
After watching these vids, I feel lucky that my 1988 Williamson 90+ furnace has not needed repairs, unlike so many newer furnaces that Steve runs across.
Couldn't agree more. My 1987 mid-efficiency furnace still runs like a top. In 29 years, I've only had one issue. The electric motor crapped out in Feb.2020. It took 2 days to find a replacement. I had the original motor repaired. Cost was $40.00. I installed the brand new motor, and kept the original as a spare.
Guys like this keep America going. I used to have a house with an old gas-fired steam boiler, and having the number of someone who could come out and do a solid job made all the difference. 🏆
You're 100 % correct Steve ... the best explanation for a capacitor is that it "Modulates" current to a motor (in and out) ... prevents the start up Amp surge from damaging the wiring ... a "buffer" so to speak ... and it's sacrificial, as they heat up a degrade over time ... cheap insurance as it's easier/cheaper to change one out then replace an expensive motor ...
Many AC motors are wound to have very high efficiency when running. Unfortunately, this configuration has low starting torque and the motor can't start without some spin assistance. Typically, a second winding is added to these motors just to add starting torque. A centrifugal switch inside the motor switches in this 2nd winding when the motor is stopped or spinning slow. But, the extra winding alone isn't enough. What we want is the 2nd winding to get its current a bit ahead of the main winding which will develop the torque needed to spin up. And by ahead, that's measured in degrees of the 60 cycle AC voltage. All we need is about 30 degrees of lead on the 2nd winding current and off we go. How do we do that? From fundamental electric theory, we can place a capacitor in series with the 2nd winding and the current in that winding will now lead the current in the primary winding. Theoretically, you can get up to 45 degrees of phase shift from a single capacitor, but due to resistance and other factors, 30 degrees is the typical target. Knowing the inductance and resistance of the 2nd winding, and that we're operating at 60 Hertz, allows calculating the size of the capacitor to get the needed phase shift. Once the motor spins up and the centrifugal switch opens, the capacitor and the 2nd winding are not used.
There are a few variations of this scheme, but they all exploit the phase shift the capacitor imposes. Some AC motors have a run capacitor and a start capacitor. If the capacitor goes bad, typically, you can't start and the motor simply sits there and gets very warm.
There's a lot of literature about how all of this works if you want to do a bit of web research.
Happy to contribute here. Got my engineering degree many years ago from a school in Steve's neighborhood.
I attended a training in Belgium way back 20 Years ago for some US made cold trap.
The guy who hold the training explained that you should never touch the compressor capacitor terminal.
He pointed to the terminal without looking at the terminal.😬
The lucky guy hit it with a finger and just was airborne by his legs muscle contractions.😂
The 30 of us got into an hilarious laughing and him pretty red faced😂
He learned a lesson too and made us a real life education.
I’m glad that shit happens to other people not just me. Nice recovery👍
I initially thought it was the igniter as it seemed to me to be a bit dull as far as brightness…I realize it has a shield around it, plus you could hear the gas flow every time the gas valve clicked open…that said, it definitely fired harder after the gas valve was replaced. May have been plugging up with crap/low flow rate. Glad you relocated the cap for the blower fan…
Seeing it wasnt firing @17:00 and seeing there was 20 minutes left in the video we knew it was gonna get interesting more. Nice job.
Thanks Steve for all your videos god bless you 🙏👍🏻👏🏻👌🏻
Great job Steven. That is one of the best flames I have seen on a furnace in a while, all blue. Lot better than before you replaced the gas valve where there was a lot of orange and yellow.
You got a great vid out on capacitors and it explains everything about them . It was made a few years back for those interested ... Thx for posting ... Hey to chest bumper Molly ...
Steve you bust me up! "I am a Big Wheel with no Spokes"! Lol... Happy Sunday Momma!
Never fails. You think it will be a 5 min job just changing a capacitor and it ends up being hours.
How to tell when you're NEXT LEVEL is When you take the time during work hours to talk to a fan who clearly wants to thank you for your work and take a call from another guy you cant get on the phone for a week that has a job 1 1/2 hrs away and will still go do it..thats a trooper.
I was over my mother in law's house today. The temperature in the house was below the thermostat's setting. Why would a furnace repeatedly run, then shut itself off after a few minutes? It's an oil-fired unit with a domestic hot water tank attached. A service tech was called and he said keep and eye on it. He hadn't slept in 2 days because he's been running call to call.
Wow that guy calling in like that. I always thought I might call Steve if I ever ran into a problem I couldn't solve while in some huge urgent time sensitive scenario. But so far I haven't had to resort to calling Steve.
Another great video.
Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again y’all. 👍👍. From the length of this video, I had a feeling it was going to be more than the replacement of a cap, lol Nice work Steve as always!
You can hear the gas being releases when the valve opens, I wonder if it’s a plugged up slot in the burner, or weak igniter. When you hear the valve open match light it- that will tell you if it’s opening or not
It's nice to see a well oiled machine running flawlessly
Got to love the fans lol one can learn a lot by shutting up and listen
Hey Steve, you always got to watch out for those experts they know everything.
I live in a mobile home my furnace died on boxing day 20/21 i called the Plummer he here in 25 minutes (on boxing day) The Furnace:Intertherm Inducer Motor pilled. He had another one in another truck or Van they have Any way 1.5 hours later furnace purring away Bill was $414.23 I live in a small town 5th generation here. Thanks to our plumbers who put up with alot to keep our asses warm my 2 cents worth
Stick to it. Great job as always.
The capacitor gives a boost of energy and completes the circuit, like you said, it ain't rocket science, Good job Steve.
I had this happen yesterday. Replaced/adjusted the igniter so it’s glowing closer to gas air mixture. Arrived and the hot surface igniter was smoked. Replaced it and it would glow but not ignite. Tested 24 volts at gas valve. Replaced gas valve but still wouldn’t ignite. I found the hot surface igniter was not close enough to the burner tube and had to tweak the igniter to make it function correctly
So the original gas valve was probably good.
@@drodriguez394 I was thinking the exact same thing, and you already wrote it. I wonder if it was good.
Never look back otherwise you will be tie ing yourself in knots. Maybe you will change a part that doesn’t need it. But you have to keep moving forward
@@philipaday27 if you think this way you will never learn from past mistakes. Why do you think football coaches watch hundreds of hours of game film? Even if their decision wound up being successful, it may have not been the correct one.
In this case, if he would've tested it as described, not only may he not have had to change the valve, but he would also save a return trip to get the valve and install it, which could also take it from same day repair to next week repair
@@realSamAndrew the gas valve was an aftermarket valve that was not listed compatible with furnace, so it was replaced and left in place for this reason. Had I thought the gas valve was still good, I would’ve ate the gas valve cost and moved on. Coincidently, I had the same thing happen on another after hours call 2 days later. In that case I found the heat exchanger was cracked not allowing for proper combustion with inducer and main blower running. So moving the igniter or adjusting closer to the burner jet isn’t always the answer.
That universal ignitor is causing the issue seen this problem many times. When they start getting weak, they will not glow all the way down to the bottom of the stick and cause intermittent ignition problems.
Always love hearing the variety of customers on the phone.
I’m guessing that igniter is bad. The only part glowing is above the gas stream and you could hear the gas run every time. The few times it ignited, there was a lot of rollout. Other times the stream of gas never touches the hot part of the igniter.
I was thinking that... seemed like there wasn't much in the path of the gas to actually ignite it. And you could hear the gas every single time the valve clicked.
I was also thinking a bad heat exchanger... when the blower came on the first time (23:20), the flames really seemed to dance and change colors. I think he should've checked carbon monoxide coming out of vents regardless, a good safety precaution.
@@zzimmzz I thought the same too but then I realised he had the blower door off
Yeah that thing didnt fire very smoothly. even with the new gas valve it was delayed ignition. Thats going to fail again. Hooefully not, but......
Good job
So you do both plumbing and air &heat.
That's awesome ✌
I hear his phone ringing and thanks to another channel, all I can think is do-do-do-do-do. 😂
Armstrong furnaces are fun to maintain and tear apart LOL good video 👍
Check the ohms on gas valve. Do you check for gas leaks after replacing gas parts? I haven't seen you do it a few times? Nice job moving the placement of the capacitor. Glad you got it going for the lady.
Hello Steve, from the u.k. great content.
Capacitor on a motor is to create a phase delay to help set the starting rotation.
That makes sense. What is the difference in farad capacities? Do the different values adjust the sine wave further out of sync? Maybe for larger motors?
@@jersey-dude not really the expert on this but at a guess in ac the larger capacity capacitor would allow more energy to flow, so a larger capacitor would mean larger motor starting current?
“You don’t want to forget to put this in, it’ll ruin your day.” Ain’t that the truth. Water is more forgiving than gas!
Famous last words "the capacitor don't hold a charge"
It’s hard to explain that the capacitor on ac shifts the phase and creates a rotating field - needed for single phase motors. But you need to break out a friggin chart with sine waves to visualize it lol. That’s why when they crap out it can’t spin, or hooked up wrong make it spin the wrong way.
I don't expect any normal person to understand that xD
Yup. Some variation of "It helps the motor start" is all most people need to hear because that's all they'll understand.
I visualize cranks of a bike. If the cranks are installed at 0 degrees and 180 degrees (normal) it is easy to pedal the bike. If the cranks were only 90 degrees apart, it would be easy at part of the cycle, and impossible at the other part of the cycle. A 3 phase motor has a "crank" exactly 120 degrees away from the other crank, making 3 cranks. With single phase, we are trying to spread away the two phases from eachother to get the motor up to speed (Start capacitor.) Some motors do not need the capacitor once it reaches 70-100% speed. Motors that require more torque can be fitted with a run capacitor... or better go 3 phase.
A failed start capacitor is basically like having a bike with only one crank. If you can get the motor started, it can sometimes keep running, but wont reach full speed.
@@FrenchBeefCDN That's the explanation to make it relatable I heard. I'm going to use that, thanks!
I learned a lot watching your videos. I’m just wondering why you didn’t check that old gas valve with your manometer before doing the disassembly. I’ve seen you test them that way in other videos.
Good work on both repairs. That draft inducer sounds like the bearings are very tired.
Nice work Steve
Just Learning and Wondering Why didn't you check the Gas Pressure on the Valve before changing
Not trolling, just curious, did you check the gas pressure on the old valve? Maybe it needed adjusting? And did the ignitor look weak in real life, it looked like it was only half working on the video. I'm glad the new valve fixed it and there have been no call backs!
So wait the first phone call was just a guy telling you how cool he thinks you are LOL doesn't sound like He's even a customer?
Love it when he calls trolls blow bags. Lol. They don't think a cap holds a good charge. I got 2 - 1.50 farad caps from my old car Amp install. I will charge them up and let them put there tongue on it. They will Jake your nuts hurt.
Whirlpool "lets hide components that need to be changed or cleaned"
They do that for safety, it can stop your heart.
@@brutebetter9188 The average person doesnt even know how to take the door off. How about the board or the fan? They should hide those too. Lol
Good job Steve, love your videos.
“This is a queer ass place for a…” is also something I say when working on the car 🤦🏽♂️ it’s always something
Damn manufactures don't give 2 shits about the people that have to work on the hvac equipment, same with cars...
Nice work
Seems kind of weird to put the igniter on burner 4 and the flame sensor on burner 3. Makes more sense to put the igniter on burner 1 and the sensor on 4. The igniter would turn off before the gas valve did too which was also strange. Almost as if it didn't allow itself enough time for the gas to catch.
I agree
Well he cleaned the burner channel and replaced the gas valve. Either there's a plug in the manifold or the igniter is going bad due to late ignition.
Steve’s line of the day: “Let’s get a couple of screws back in this bitch”
So that guy just called to shoot the shit? What the flip.
Really come one people call steve just to shoot the shit. The guy is working if your calling him pay him for his time lol.
Steve's got groupies mama!
So the ignitor is on the last burner and the flame sensor is on 2nd to last burner?? Blower cap way in back?? Great engineering right there haha
Seems like the event timing is off?
The igniter seems to be going out just as the ignition takes place. It’s like the gas valve is opening late.
Can you adjust the timing or would you just have to replace the board?
@@ohioplayer-bl9em replace board. There should be a sequence of operation for the timings of the board functions that will give each step in seconds for each function.
That rollout looks like a cracked heat exchanger is likely.
Read most of the comments . I thought it might have been the air proving switch ( that,s what we call them in UK ) or a blocked tube as there was a delay before gas valve got its 24 voltage. Time will tell
Good video thank you.
In the old days used to take capacitor out of old mowers that had points and charge them up and then throw it to someone
We did that in automotive school back in the ‘70’s 😂😂😂
Why didn’t you do a combustion test? On other jobs the 3.5 inch pressure setting caused a high CO number.
Good save there Steve .
There is one thing I noticed was with the flame color flaring yellow just a little bit when the blower kicked on. Just enough to suggest a pinhole leak in the heat exchange. Just enough to cause a draft.
Thought the exact same thing. I had to cap 4 RTUS with bad heat exchangers last week. 2 of them were tripped on roll-out.. go figure. Made it 21 years.
@@FrenchBeefCDN It's just enough to pique the curiosity but it does not look like it's enough to cause concern.
Hi. Just found your videos. Great content. I noticed you used alligator clip to jump it in order to prime the line. Our gauge went bad, tank emptied and I'm in that boat. Can this be done with honeywell R7284u control. Thanks
Didnt mention. It's for an oil furnace
Great video brother.
I looked it up and its what you said, The main job of capacitors is to store electrons to provide start-up energy for your motor. The olé' booster shot Ma-Ma!
Steven lavimonier I like when you sing she a crusty one Mr grinch
Steven, please consider putting your phone calls on air, they are awesome 😂
But I am only here for the Dog 🐶
Steven lavimonier I like your utube videos
Next level, guy
"Gunslinger" pow pow pow...txs for sharing
Second phone call even better
Hello Steve!
Steven don't feel bad I have customers call me to adjust there thermostat because they don't want to touch it because they are afraid they are going to break it when I explained it 20 times to them on how to work it and adjust it I spend all day adjusting people's thermostat because they don't understand it
did u check make sure they Didn't turn Gas off as well as the Switch? they may have? As its strange if it was Working With a Bad Cap in it But now not since, Maybe when some one shut it off they turned Gas off too?
Great video Steve also might need a new hsi
whats the chances of a bad gas valve and capacitor at the same time. I would've been called back on that one
capacitors will ruin your day. I was taught to discharge them with a screwdriver.
I do not miss the North. This was one of the things that scared me. Heat out in the Winter, hard freeze. Now I am in SW FL. A/C down here is king. I actually lost a capacitor on my condenser this summer. Damn straight I went and got it from my guy (it was Sunday, it's always a Sunday) when he told me it was the best he could do. He was super nice and gave me a second cap. Tell them about the start and run windings and run and start caps. sure shit they will hurt you. Come to Florida for a week.
What is that flame sensor??? Why isn't it on the opposite end from the ignitor? Very dangerous
Steve’s a great person but I never heard anyone misunderstand people as much as he does
Whirlpool code name... Nordyne.
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Zap your ass in the next week I love that comment Steve I love you man
I dont know, even with the new valve it seemed to be delayed on the ignition. She may go out again. Hopefully not momma
Steve
How many service calls on Ave retouching do a day?
A capacitor is also like a very quickly rechargeable and dischargeable battery.
Same shit happened to me on a job , i ended up spray7some wd40 inside gas valve both in and out put and then tap on it . It should loosen valve up . Worked for me and customer
Why would they put the capacitor in the back ? Crazy 🎄🎄🎄
Great repair again Steve! These designer that put components just anywhere need to use their head in thinking in time of service make reasonable common sense to help speedy up repairs by repairman! It’s ridiculous on some appliances you literally have to tear apart just to replace a simple part but then spend additional time putting the appliance back together. Well done on the capacitor mount in front! Thanks for sharing your work, enjoy watching all of them! Martinsburg, WV USA
My Family Raised Chickens to People to eat and We had Propane Heaters Hanging in The Chicken Houses Chicken Houses with an open Flame Burning.
Hmmm, almost seemed hesitant to fire again on that last attempt. That’s a weird one, hope the gas valve did it!
no call backs
@@stevenlavimoniere that’s good!
We were lucky that they Never Caught on Fire.
Next level!!!
Ignitor was broken and shorted letting it still come on but not completely in the flow of the burner. You could hear the gas valve click and gas flow each attempt at ignition.
Steve, you take fan calls? I figure if you take two a day, with 169k subscribers you could get through us all in less than 250 years!!!!! Come on people, enjoy his videos, don't creep on him and call him, unless you need a plumber and you are local. And leave the guy a like for crying out loud, he knows who you people that watch and don't leave a like are!! Lol.