Excellent video. 2 additional observations: 1. On my HD7950 I have 2 VBIOS versions. One is modded to have EFI-bootscreen on my MP4,1. With this VBIOS selected, AMD graphics drivers don’t work, resulting in a black screen. Switching to the original VBIOS solves this, I get normal screen behaviour 2 If you want to install W11 without internet connection, eg no wifi-card and/or no ethernet, you can do a SHIFT-F10 at the country-selection screen and type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” [enter]. System will restart and now shows the option to install without internet
1) That's interesting. I do not have a boot screen with the card but it also doesn't seem to accept the AMD drivers. Will read on how I can see which BIOS is there and maybe try to flash it with another one, if available. 2) I did apply that one actually (I did video on how to avoid a Microsoft account a while back). Didn't mention it in the video bit you can see that after setup completes, the language that is selected ia different :)
@@jensdbe I also have this card, I initially bought because I wanted a boot screen from my 5,1using open core. I installed it and it booted the bootscreen no flashed require (it could already been flashed by the previous owner) Anyway i also installed Win 11 and ran into the same problem incompatible drives from AMD. I force installed the one for windows 10 and once installed the AMD software actually install the correct driver for win11 so it shows the correct GPU in the device manager.
I have Mac OS High Sierra and Mojave on a PCI OWC Accelsior 1m2 with bootcamp. Only use windows to play Bethesda games, all my major games are on Mac os
Hello,I'm a viewer from Italy,I really like how you give these old pcs a new life. Btw I have as a my primary pc one dell optiplex 3010(big one),I received it for free,it was without ram and hard disk,I used what I have as a spare parts,500 gb hd and 2 sticks of ram 4 gb each ddr3 1333 mhz.I also upgraded the power supply from the original with 275 W with another one with 500 W.Even if it's still pretty usable with Windows 11 installed on it,I think it's time to upgrade it and I would like to push to its limits. Rn I have i3-3240,I see that it can be upgraded to i7-3770,but someone says it can have compatibility issues,others say it works fine,so before buying it I would like to know if it's good for my pc and also wich gpu I should buy to get the best performance? And after replancing the cpu can I upgrade ram too or I need to stick at 8gb? I already have in mind to buy an ssd too. Thanks a lot in advance.
Very nice - I will be using your knowledge to install several OSs on a MacPro7,1. I've only ever installed Windows 11 inside Parallels, not on a bootable partition. What screen recording software do you prefer for Windows?
I'm typically using a HDMI capture card, so I can record without a performance impact and also before the OS is started. OBS does a good job and even the built-in screen recorder of Windows 11 is not bad either to my limited experience
A very good video, thanks. Do you know if this will work if I want to install Win11 on the same physical disc as MacOS, but a different partition? I used to run Bootcamp that way with Win10.
Thanks for uplading the video! Have you upgraded from Windows 10 to Windows 11? I have a NVME drive with Windows 10 installed and expect it would be the same process as installing Windows 11 on a NVME drive using OpenCore? Also, are the drivers from Apple for 5,1 not needed for Windows 11? I've always used the drivers from Apple for Windows on the 5,1
I think you can safely upgrade to Windows 11 as you would do in any other unsupported system (I did a frw videos on that as well). All drivers are found on Windoes update so no need to download any bootcamp-files with Brigardier or Bombardier.
@@jensdbe I don't think this would be an issue but if upgrading from Windows 10, the installation process should not write to the bootrom of the Mac pro as long as opencore is installed? Just want to double check and clarify
A very interesting and useful video!👍👍 Would the problems which you mentioned also happen with a Linux installation, such as Linux Mint. I recently bought a job lot of unused parts and there are two adaptor cards for M.2 SSD, the 2 adaptors are of different designs and I'm not certain what type of computers they would be used in, perhaps Mac laptops?
The problem only seems to be present when using Windows. For Linux you might run into different issues but it can also be booted from OpenCore as far as I know.
The issue i'm running into with my installation is that once my computer gets to the end of the installation it prompts me with the error "Windows could not prepare the computer to boot into the next phase of installation. To install Windows, restart the installation". I'm trying to install Windows to a partition on my boot drive that also has Monterey and opencore on it. Has anyone else had this issue with installing Windows 11?
Should work fine to install Windows 11 but you won't be able to upgrade to the latest FW version in case you want to boot from NVMe as I explained in an earlier video: ruclips.net/video/zTl1lL1zfkg/видео.html
3:08 I own two 5,1 running Mojave, and I'm happy with both. One is isolated and solely for Adobe Illustrator CS 6, with no OS upgrades in the pipeline. The other might become a Monterey Mac. Are there any other factors that could cause issues with the boot rom? TIA
If you are on Monterey, you probably are already using OpenCore to boot that. You would need to check the firmware version you have in order to know if NVMe boot is supported.
With open core legacy there is no real firmware to be found. Well... a bunch of 9's. But it worked flawlessly. I didn't do a clean install. I did a update from a clone from my SSD. Everything worked perfectly... Thank you
@@jensdbe Hello, one last question, I finished installing MacOS Big Sur, I opened OCLP and when trying to update the rooting patches, OCLP does not find any patches, I don't know if there is a solution?
If I wanted to install ONLY windows 11 with no other operating system can I just create an optical disc and install from the disc without having to use open core or any other software? Ironically it might just be easier for me to make a DVD then I don’t have to worry about any problems with wrecking my Mac due to the USB installer. I realise I will need to make the registry changes to get round the TPM. I plan on installing to a SATA SSD on a 4.1 (flashed to 5.1).
If you use a DVD to install Windows 11,you won't have the issues or danger with the certificates in the bootrom so that is a good option for you. Once you have started the installer just add the registry keys as I did in the video to skip the hardware check.
Hello - newbie here - update my cMP 5,1 to Monterey from boot firmware 144.000.000.000.000 it change to 9999.999.999.999.999 -; when trying to install windows based on your video to an nvme drive - it gets stuck at the downloading windows files - and say that need to format to ex-fat; already formatted it to exfat at the start; tried to reformat and install windows - same result- would appreciate your help - thanks
This is most likely some version-spoofing done by OCLP. This would prevent a newer, not-patched, FW-version from upgrading your current (real) version. I didn't test with any latest OCLP releases since I did this video but a bit strange to see. In general it shouldn't really matter as it is just a different version being reported than the real one.
You need to press the Alt/Option key. I did notice it does not work on all keyboard, especially wireless. If you use an Apple keyboard it always works.
Hello please help me i have macpro 5.1 2010. i have 3 nvme ssd 1 sonoma 1 win11 nd 1 4t data i haved card 680 and asus rx 580 how to work on sonoma this driver please? On windows its ok but on mac 8mb i see no 8g not working.
@@raphaelstefanidis5834 it works on Sonoma with the root patches applied by OCLP but you will not get the Mac boot screen. You will see OpenCore boot selection though
Hi! @jensd_be I have MacPro 5.1, installed PCIe to M2 NVMe, and tried to install Windows 11 there, but no one chance… I made USB flash with Windows through Rufus, installation started, I formatted disks, and after rebooting it shows me blue screen, that windows can’t be loaded because it can’t find winload.efi. I’m trying to get an answer almost 6 months.. I have only windows installed on sata ssd, I don’t have macOS anywhere. And I don’t see boot loading, only when I turned on my Mac, I see after 15-20 sec black screen, then it’s propose me to chose the system (but there only windows) and then loading.. that’s all( I’m so sorry for my English. Hope someone will help me here. Thank you in advance 🙏
Talk about timely . . . I picked up a cheap Mac Pro with a HD 7950 last week. Awesome!
Enjoy :)
genuinely the best guide on how to do this , i'm typing this on my mac pro 5,1 running windows 11 with my rx580 . Thank you dude
Nice to hear. Enjoy the 5,1! Still feels like a nice machine to work with :)
Em jogos onlines como fica a taxa o fps?
Excellent video. 2 additional observations:
1. On my HD7950 I have 2 VBIOS versions. One is modded to have EFI-bootscreen on my MP4,1. With this VBIOS selected, AMD graphics drivers don’t work, resulting in a black screen. Switching to the original VBIOS solves this, I get normal screen behaviour
2 If you want to install W11 without internet connection, eg no wifi-card and/or no ethernet, you can do a SHIFT-F10 at the country-selection screen and type “OOBE\BYPASSNRO” [enter]. System will restart and now shows the option to install without internet
1) That's interesting. I do not have a boot screen with the card but it also doesn't seem to accept the AMD drivers. Will read on how I can see which BIOS is there and maybe try to flash it with another one, if available.
2) I did apply that one actually (I did video on how to avoid a Microsoft account a while back). Didn't mention it in the video bit you can see that after setup completes, the language that is selected ia different :)
@@jensdbe I also have this card, I initially bought because I wanted a boot screen from my 5,1using open core. I installed it and it booted the bootscreen no flashed require (it could already been flashed by the previous owner) Anyway i also installed Win 11 and ran into the same problem incompatible drives from AMD. I force installed the one for windows 10 and once installed the AMD software actually install the correct driver for win11 so it shows the correct GPU in the device manager.
Extraordinario video.... veré si puedo hacerlo en mi MacPro 5.1... Son máquinas hermosas! unlike y suscripcion desde Chile!
Your videos are the best. Helpful and easy to follow THANK YOU!
Hats off to you, incredibly useful video as always. Keep up the great work, so others like me can learn. Thank you for your time and effort.
Thanks a lot for the nice feedback :)
Yes you’re right on that
I have Mac OS High Sierra and Mojave on a PCI OWC Accelsior 1m2 with bootcamp. Only use windows to play Bethesda games, all my major games are on Mac os
Will be doing this soon enough. Thanks!
thank you!, Got it working
Hello,I'm a viewer from Italy,I really like how you give these old pcs a new life.
Btw I have as a my primary pc one dell optiplex 3010(big one),I received it for free,it was without ram and hard disk,I used what I have as a spare parts,500 gb hd and 2 sticks of ram 4 gb each ddr3 1333 mhz.I also upgraded the power supply from the original with 275 W with another one with 500 W.Even if it's still pretty usable with Windows 11 installed on it,I think it's time to upgrade it and I would like to push to its limits.
Rn I have i3-3240,I see that it can be upgraded to i7-3770,but someone says it can have compatibility issues,others say it works fine,so before buying it I would like to know if it's good for my pc and also wich gpu I should buy to get the best performance?
And after replancing the cpu can I upgrade ram too or I need to stick at 8gb?
I already have in mind to buy an ssd too.
Thanks a lot in advance.
The last pro machine Apple designed and sell. All after that machine, just paper pro..
Can't agree more. It starts to show its age but I'm still in love with it :)
Very nice - I will be using your knowledge to install several OSs on a MacPro7,1. I've only ever installed Windows 11 inside Parallels, not on a bootable partition. What screen recording software do you prefer for Windows?
I'm typically using a HDMI capture card, so I can record without a performance impact and also before the OS is started. OBS does a good job and even the built-in screen recorder of Windows 11 is not bad either to my limited experience
A very good video, thanks. Do you know if this will work if I want to install Win11 on the same physical disc as MacOS, but a different partition? I used to run Bootcamp that way with Win10.
Thanks for uplading the video! Have you upgraded from Windows 10 to Windows 11? I have a NVME drive with Windows 10 installed and expect it would be the same process as installing Windows 11 on a NVME drive using OpenCore?
Also, are the drivers from Apple for 5,1 not needed for Windows 11? I've always used the drivers from Apple for Windows on the 5,1
I think you can safely upgrade to Windows 11 as you would do in any other unsupported system (I did a frw videos on that as well). All drivers are found on Windoes update so no need to download any bootcamp-files with Brigardier or Bombardier.
@@jensdbe I don't think this would be an issue but if upgrading from Windows 10, the installation process should not write to the bootrom of the Mac pro as long as opencore is installed? Just want to double check and clarify
plugin a second monitor to get full Geekbench scores in macOS :D
Have you experienced any issues with installing windows 11 with this method? Thanks for the informative video!!
No issues at all so far. Works as you would expect.
A very interesting and useful video!👍👍 Would the problems which you mentioned also happen with a Linux installation, such as Linux Mint. I recently bought a job lot of unused parts and there are two adaptor cards for M.2 SSD, the 2 adaptors are of different designs and I'm not certain what type of computers they would be used in, perhaps Mac laptops?
The problem only seems to be present when using Windows. For Linux you might run into different issues but it can also be booted from OpenCore as far as I know.
@@jensdbe Thanks for the reply and perhaps Linux could be the topic for another video.
Hi, when i do this i get to the stage where it starts the install then says the installation could not be completed, please help
I always get stucked in the drive selection, it always tells there's a problem with the format :/ mbr or gpt
The issue i'm running into with my installation is that once my computer gets to the end of the installation it prompts me with the error "Windows could not prepare the computer to boot into the next phase of installation. To install Windows, restart the installation". I'm trying to install Windows to a partition on my boot drive that also has Monterey and opencore on it. Has anyone else had this issue with installing Windows 11?
Yes, dealing with it right now. Did you ever figure this out?
psst, just use the modded amd driver for win10/11
Hola... Una consulta, Maestro:
¿Como puedo verificar la ROM de mi MacPro 5.1?... Con que programa puedo hacer un volcado de ese contenido?
Great tutorial, will this work on 2.8ghz quad core Intel Xeon with ATI radeon hd 5770 1gb? Thanks!
Should work fine to install Windows 11 but you won't be able to upgrade to the latest FW version in case you want to boot from NVMe as I explained in an earlier video: ruclips.net/video/zTl1lL1zfkg/видео.html
@@jensdbeThank you! Will watch your videos to learn more.
3:08 I own two 5,1 running Mojave, and I'm happy with both. One is isolated and solely for Adobe Illustrator CS 6, with no OS upgrades in the pipeline. The other might become a Monterey Mac. Are there any other factors that could cause issues with the boot rom? TIA
OCLP should protect your boot ROM from being written to often. As long as you stay on macOS I don't think there is a lot of risk anyway.
Thank you so much. It's really comforting to hear that I can enjoy my Mac Pros for a few more years. @@jensdbe
Well I'm on Monterey so I guess that would work just the same no ? And the result is that you can boot into Windows 11 on a PCI NVMe drive ?
If you are on Monterey, you probably are already using OpenCore to boot that. You would need to check the firmware version you have in order to know if NVMe boot is supported.
With open core legacy there is no real firmware to be found. Well... a bunch of 9's. But it worked flawlessly. I didn't do a clean install. I did a update from a clone from my SSD. Everything worked perfectly...
Thank you
I installed W10 several times on bootcamp?
Hi jensd_be, how about everything, I hope you would like to know if this method to install windows works with the Big Sur installer OCLP?
Should work fine to build and install OCLP from Big Sur
@@jensdbe Hello, one last question, I finished installing MacOS Big Sur, I opened OCLP and when trying to update the rooting patches, OCLP does not find any patches, I don't know if there is a solution?
Hi Jens
If I need my 5,1 upgrade from Mojave to Sonoma
I have to install open core and Sonoma in a same ssd?
Can be on different drives
So you recommending 1 ssd only for open core and MacHd for Sonoma?
Do games that require avx work on windows ?
i installed windows 11 22h2 on a 4.1 without OpenCore i dont use mac os system anymore
I know that this works but it is really not a good idea. I explain why in the video but in short it can completely brick your Mac.
If I wanted to install ONLY windows 11 with no other operating system can I just create an optical disc and install from the disc without having to use open core or any other software? Ironically it might just be easier for me to make a DVD then I don’t have to worry about any problems with wrecking my Mac due to the USB installer. I realise I will need to make the registry changes to get round the TPM. I plan on installing to a SATA SSD on a 4.1 (flashed to 5.1).
If you use a DVD to install Windows 11,you won't have the issues or danger with the certificates in the bootrom so that is a good option for you. Once you have started the installer just add the registry keys as I did in the video to skip the hardware check.
@@jensdbe brilliant thank you!
Hello - newbie here - update my cMP 5,1 to Monterey from boot firmware 144.000.000.000.000 it change to 9999.999.999.999.999 -; when trying to install windows based on your video to an nvme drive - it gets stuck at the downloading windows files - and say that need to format to ex-fat; already formatted it to exfat at the start; tried to reformat and install windows - same result- would appreciate your help - thanks
This is most likely some version-spoofing done by OCLP. This would prevent a newer, not-patched, FW-version from upgrading your current (real) version. I didn't test with any latest OCLP releases since I did this video but a bit strange to see. In general it shouldn't really matter as it is just a different version being reported than the real one.
I want to install MacOS to a blank drive from USB. But I still can't boot to USB from Apple Mac Pro. Can you tell me its exact boot key
You need to press the Alt/Option key. I did notice it does not work on all keyboard, especially wireless. If you use an Apple keyboard it always works.
Hello please help me i have macpro 5.1 2010. i have 3 nvme ssd 1 sonoma 1 win11 nd 1 4t data i haved card 680 and asus rx 580 how to work on sonoma this driver please? On windows its ok but on mac 8mb i see no 8g not working.
Did you try to open OCLP and check if the patches are installed? You can also try to uninstall and reinstall them. That should do it.
@@jensdbe asus rx580 working on sonoma or need another saphire 580 mit boot screen?
@@raphaelstefanidis5834 it works on Sonoma with the root patches applied by OCLP but you will not get the Mac boot screen. You will see OpenCore boot selection though
Hi! @jensd_be
I have MacPro 5.1, installed PCIe to M2 NVMe, and tried to install Windows 11 there, but no one chance…
I made USB flash with Windows through Rufus, installation started, I formatted disks, and after rebooting it shows me blue screen, that windows can’t be loaded because it can’t find winload.efi.
I’m trying to get an answer almost 6 months..
I have only windows installed on sata ssd, I don’t have macOS anywhere. And I don’t see boot loading, only when I turned on my Mac, I see after 15-20 sec black screen, then it’s propose me to chose the system (but there only windows) and then loading.. that’s all(
I’m so sorry for my English. Hope someone will help me here. Thank you in advance 🙏
Listen carefully to what the guy says about USB drive Windows installation from minute @2:50, it's better to install it from DVD DRIVE
у меня window 11 и на макпро1.1/2.1
Did a video on that as well: ruclips.net/video/ehDF3mrwbfE/видео.html
put a rtx titan inside
It,s a shame to put windows on apple.
@@cormuizer if only Apple didn't stop supporting this hardware I would agree :)
wich cable do you used to plug on monitor??? i want plug in imac 2006 tks