0:00 Intro & Provenance 3:37 Family in Arkansas 5:57 Air Force Service 6:30 Early Music Career 7:48 Biggest Disappointments 10:19 Drug Arrest 14:20 Move to Nashville, Divorce, June Carter 15:04 Country Music Business 19:42 Horns in "Ring of Fire" 20:57 Jimmie Rodgers 23:40 Anti-War Hippies 26:27 Vietnam Tour Plans 27:21 Outro
BUT that makes even more profound Mr Cash's final anti-war stance - right? Saw it himself? Saw that 20,00 GIs were in drug treatment? Heard that in '68 200 officers were fragged by lower ranks? Keep in mind: the Pentagon Papers, My Lai & Phoenix program were not yet known to Mr Cash in late ''69 - or anyone. Dude-not even the pilots knew they were bombing Cambodia & Laos, for a whole year BEFORE the kids at Kent St at Jackson State were shot. Think Johnny Cash did not realize the greatness of the song, Ohio? The theme from Woodstock? And those are just 3 Canadian ones - add Ed McCurdy - Bruce Cockburn. Sorry but that's the spin a sensitive person should take from this - after twice as long and just about as wrong a war in Afghanistan. Seen another way: a genuine NVA attack in Gulf of Tonkin would not wipe out what MLK, Country Joe, Bob Dylan said, about that war, & all war..
What a great thing to hear. I loved this man as a kid. This is before he was to really hit it big again I think. There is a real man there. Built himself up with his own Will. No RUclips. No nothing.
Wait a second - I know that musicians are sensitive people, already - apologies for where I talked down to the Guitolog-y audience. My guess Mr Cash would & maybe did wind up agreeing with Gen Butler's book title: War Is A Racket.
I worked down the road from the Cash's home at a small market in Hendersonville, TN as a teenager. A lot of country music artist would come into the store and most were not nice people. But June and Johnny were always very nice to everyone and would talk to fans and take time to talk to them. An elderly woman I worked with was a big fan and had all his albums. He would bring her an autographed album when he came in to the store. When the industry switched to CD's he brought her a CD and she told him she didn't have anything to play a CD on. A couple of hours later the Cash's assistant showed up with the biggest boombox I've ever seen and spent an hour showing her how to use it and play CDs and gave her his card and said if she had any questions to call him. That's what I remember about the Cash's.
My sister was crazy about Conway, she wrote him back when he first started and he sent her a photo of himself...the picture was an actual picture not one of those professional glossy photos entertainers have made up for their fans...i figured anyone that took the time to write his fans instead of rubber stamping an autograph form letter had to be a decent person...
I was so lucky back in 1969 to see him and the carter family in subic bay the Philippines . i was a 19 year old sailor on the Kitty Hawk. My buddies were going and i didn't care for him but went with them. I will never forget that night, and he has been one of my favorite people ever since. He made us sailors feel loved and honored by his presence.
@@timedwards8944 It was more of a lark. I was raised in an airforce family My dad was a major, and treated the family like we were in the air force, so lacking social skills to strike of on my own and due to the fact that some of the recent graduates of my high school had been killed in asia somewhere by the yellow man, i decided i might just learn to become a diesel mechanic which paid well , allowed me to wear cool uniforms. well i joined the day i turned 18 cause the folks wouldn't sigh me up, my dad wanted me to join the army and go infantry as he stated with my abilities i would go far in the army. I did well in the military as i knew basically what the game was all about. i was first a boiler tender which was a sucky job, but i managed to land a job in the engineering log room, the captains office of the uss kitty hawk, then to a squadron of fighter pilots on the uss shangrila, always a yeoman, who doesn't stand watch or get dirty. paper work officers pay and vacation records, so i was treated like a prince by all the officers. no when folks say thank you for your service, i cannot dig it, as the navy gave me a place to escape from home and find out who i was and what i could do. I only set foot in vietnam once, and we were pulling into Danang Harbor to retrieve one of the uss missouri's guns. Our senior chief was being transferred and i helped carry his sea bag and personal belongings off the ship, so i could go to the base P.X. and buy a milk shake. Thanks for the thanks.
@@johngillon6969 My uncle served on the Kitty Hawk during the Vietnam "conflict" (not sure of the years). He joined the navy before getting drafted into the army! Hes an outstanding Uncle. Dad's are more right than wrong, but I bet your happy you didn't follow your dad's advice & go army for that conflict. It just seems to me that serving in the army in that theatre would've been very, very frustrating.
Imagine if you told Johnny Cash in 1967 that someday, circa Christmas 2021, 70,000 people would tune in to listen to this interview on tiny shiny machines they held in their hands. Even 18 years after his death. He could not have fathomed that.
Or how the leaders of the world would use peoples own fear to control them into "compliance" and screw over the entire world economy for the corpos. How tech companies are censoring everyone who dissents from the msm narrative.
I'm just amazed at how similar both of ^their voices are. At the very beginning of this interview, it sounded as if JC was referring to himself in the 3rd person! Then I realized it was the show host.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Meh. The leaders of the world were doing all that in the 50s and 60s too. Have been for centuries if not thousands of years. I'm pretty sure writers like Cash understood that the powerful always prey on the weak and the rich get richer while regular folks get screwed. Manipulating people, censoring people, it's all as old as humanity. We just think it's new because it's happening to us.
100%, my brother was in college with hippies who chastised him for not dressing like them. But by senior year they looked like federal agents cause they need a job. Bunch of hypocrites.
There is no question that Cash changed his views somewhat after he traveled to perform in Vietnam and after the Kent State shooting. He says as much in the liner notes to the "Man In Black" Album where he says: “A year ago, I had done a lot less thinking than I have now.”
I’m sure he didn’t know the full extent of what was happening yet. Surface level it seems the right thing to do is to support your country and go fight but in reality it was basically just raping and pillaging in a foreign war that we could never have won
some of the Kent State fatalities were justified though, they were physically attacking soldiers, Id expect to get killed if I did that, too bad innocents got hit.
@@seanbrennan5192 it was a winnable war, we just didnt have leadership that was interested in winning it. The main thing is we should never have been there to start with. Thats hard to say, because of what the vietcong were doing to people, but in the end we're not the worlds police.
@@Mccaid I'd have to agree.It could have been won,but at what cost?Even with us being held back we did quite a bit of damage to at least three different countries.We wrecked Laos with bombs.Agenent orange and unexploded ordinance are still huge problems.
Johnny has an autobiography where he talks about spending years alone in his cabin pacing around geeking out on uppers and downers. June Carter saved him. It's funny how he minimizes these powerful drugs that almost killed him.
That sounded like Johnny Cash interviewing Johnny Cash. The voices were almost identical. I just about would bet that interviewer could sing like Cash, him being a D.J. and listening to music for a living.
When I was in my teens and twenties I was bullet proof and knew everything. Now I'm in my fifties and my paradigm has been shattered so many time's I just don't know anymore. So I don't find it strange or surprising that Johnny's views changed with time.
Wow, what a piece of history. It's neat where he talks about his house on Old Hickory Lake being built, and his drug arrest in his own words. Love it, thanks for sharing.
THIS INTERVIEW IS HILARIOUS! "i don't do no narcotics", and then ''i did some 600 pep pills and then got some tranquilizers "' this should really go viral brad. thanks for sharing it!
What a very special thing we all just listened to. Thank you Brad for bringing us this. Love your channel. I don’t know shit about electronics but I do find your repairs fantastic!
Thank you SO much Brad for sharing these invaluable riches of interviews. Eyes full of tears listenin’ to both Carl and Johnny. Can’t thank you enough man
Glad the record is finally being set straight. The interviews are priceless and show how history in later years can be changed to fit what other people want that history to be.
I am really impressed that the guitarologist is letting go with this information this interview especially because I believe that that taped does have a considerable value being a one-of-a-kind and all I'm surprised that somebody would not take this tape and put it for sale at auction for a large dollar amount again kudos to a very generous thing to do
Thank you again Brad for being willing to save and share this bit of lost history. I feel privileged to be a part of experiencing this/these interview/s. You are to be applauded for having the smarts to use your channel to share this with those that will listen. On a very personal note; It is no surprise to me that Johnny Cash would support the troops and hate the hippies. I don't think it was "hippies" as much as it was the misguided, uninformed terrible things some would say and do to the troops as they came home. I would and do feel much the same today. Without getting into a potential political policy debate. I don't support many of the conflicts that we are involved in, most of those cases are places I believe we really don't belong. I do however support the men and women that are serving in those conflicts because they have not only earned it but they deserve it. This sentiment is still carried today with protesters blaming the soldier for the war rather than the government/s that are involved. I was a child when troops were coming home from Vietnam but I still remember the "Americans" holding the "Baby Killer", "Monster" signs and spitting on those men as they came home. Even as a child this made me sad and confused enough that I would talk about it with my Grandpa. It makes me sad and angry to see that same misguided, uniformed and terrible sentiment happening today.
No evidence exists of GI getting spat upon. Got any? I don't care about hippies after living through that nonsense. They were greedy druggies and wealthy college kids.
@@cravinbob Only my personal memories of time during which the U.S.A. departed from Vietnam. I am not going to get into a debate with you or anyone else regarding my personal memories. The point of my statement is that many Veterans were treated poorly by their fellow citizens when they came home That is an ugly truth. I happen to be of the opinion that this memory is at the very least plausible. Since I am citing my personal memories I feel no obligation to prove my statement above of that memory. Why you may want to ask? Because the memory is mine and I am not inflicting my memory on any specific person. Since you have no basis on which to show my memory to be false either I choose to leave my statement above as it is. As stated many times now I will not debate my personal memories. Were I to accuse a specific person of this I would of course, back my claim with research and cite any references that I found both in support of my claim and those against it. Keep in mind this is my memory of events that happened 50 to 51 years ago. As we all know the human memory is extremely fallible and generally changes as time passes. For me this happened when I was 5 or 6 so my memory is likely skewed by my experiences growing up and living my life. I am not claiming that ALL protesters of the war spit on G.I.'s. Nor am I saying that ALL hippies were at fault for this. I will grant that many Americans did indeed blame the political powers and not the soldiers. This includes the hippies of the time as well. I will not, however, change the description of my memories of the time to please you. I hope this helps you understand the statement I made. Have a super day sir.
@@jayham____fromgeorgia I'm aware of this tragic and awful fact. I'm not sure why you've posted this comment here. I'm in complete support of our veterans and believe there must be change. I'm not sure what in my statements led you to think that I somehow don't support veterans. I'm speaking directly about wrongs done to G. I.s returning from Vietnam and how terrible I think that is. That is only one example of wrongs done to our fine veterans. So to be clear. My memories of seeing this on TV as a child is something I do not agree with. Our veterans deserve the best we can give not the worst.
Thanks Brad, That was great. I mess with tube amps like you, I have actually learned a lot from you and Uncle Doug. I have several reel to reels and I love when there is an old tape there. One of them I got from a 54' revere had this cool tape where half was what sounded like a bunch of old war buddies from probably WW2 or Korea singing all these songs like soldiers back then would sing to pass the time. Likely all those men are dead but they live on on this tape. Another tape I have is a family in the 70s because they are doing these mock TV news shows and interviews and they talk about Jimmy Carter etc. It is a snapshot of lives from the past.
As a former "on-air personality" myself [1983-1994], I thoroughly enjoyed the back-and-forth banter during the interview; however, my ears 'perked up' when I heard Johnny mention that he held the 'rights' to Jimmie Rodgers' life story **and** catalog (at @ 21:00)-- !! So, what happened to those rights? Did they become part of the legacy that Johnny passed on to his progeny? I would **love** to see a biopic properly done on the life & songs of Jimmie Rodgers!! If anyone knows the answers to these questions, please feel free to respond!! Blessed Be, & Peace!!
He tried to walk the line on big public stages to not offend people and still sell records but he was a good ol’ boy through and through. I don’t blame people for not wanting to talk about this stuff in public and just be entertaining though that is their job after all.
I lot of people don’t know that Johnny was a code breaker in the Air Force. They tried to get him to reenlist, but he had his heart set on music. He started playing in prisons but was never locked up except for maybe a night here and there. The only one of the sixties outlaws that was in prison was Merle Haggard he was in the audience during one of johns live prison recordings. Back in the sixties managers would take an artist and build a lot on their image. The colonel did that with Elvis. He wouldn’t let him do songs on controversial subjects. Elvis went against him the first time in his career with the song In the ghetto. It went to number one.
So glad the interviews have been recovered. Especially the the interview on about hippies which shows how he thought of hippies in a negative light then later on after going to Vietnam and seeing what was happening his views on hippies and war has changed.
Great work on this material once again Brad! I hadn't seen the Netflix documentary till your mention of it here. Concerning their presentation I'm left wondering if they knew and didn't tell or just didn't know. It certainly raises the ante on the historical value of these interviews. On the country music side of this discussion was a revealing insight as to it's current state and where it would be heading. Ironic was Wooten's lament of the use of "hillbilly" to describe the music and the "cornball" nature of the jokes told, when in two short years one of the most popular television shows ever would be doubling down on both of those!
Yep. And that show is an institution. Thank you again for sharing this tape with the world, Dave. I’m grateful you chose my lowly channel to bestow it upon. I hope I have done these justice.
I wish Cash's plans for a Jimmie Rogers movie had happened. Haggard did a great album covering Jimmie's songs. Cash was a direct and plain spoken guy. His views changed later in life. His best friend Waylon made a career playing to college crowds a decade later.
I can understand an early distaste for "hippies" especially since in the Air Force, he was in the Security Service, which consisted of the top 2% of enlisted airmen (i.e. the smartest of the smart). I believe he was a 292 (what we called a "dittybop") and since he was stationed in Germany, his job probably was to listen and transcribe Soviet Morse code transmissions. For that, he had to have a security clearance that was actually higher than Top Secret. Besides his great music, Johnny Cash kept us safe during the Cold War. His reluctance to talk about his service in the interview was because all that was still classified. Today, it has been declassified.
Great interview that proves a thinking man is willing to change his opinion as the facts warrant. I was sorry to see him go and listen to his music often, I especially like one of his last recordings - Hurt. That was straight from the heart of a man who knew he was facing his end.
you should do a restoration video with that johnny cash guitar you found in the swamp,start by fixing the finish with a wire brush then wash it off with a pressure washer and re-touch up the finish with a paint roller and latex paint
Makes perfect sense. The nation was generally patriotic until it started getting out that the Government was not being truthful about why we were in Vietnam. He was a man in his time. Many of the others like John Wayne were correct in their own perspectives. The Duke was in support of the establishment and Cash was too until his eyes were opened in a way that took many years. Its called history
When you have 3 channels and can only trust the radio and papers, it's hard for me to hold peoples head under for not knowing they were being lied too. As you said it's history.
Hell yea Johnny stick with the Vets. My Dad was combat Veteran Vietnam 11th cavalry 66-67 .. his Dad my Granpa fought in France WW2. My Dads oldest brother waz combat Veteran Vietnam with Marine corps. God Bless thoze who served our great Nation
Wow that was so interesting! I'm a huge Cash fan. Thank goodness you found these tapes. Otherwise they might have ended up in a landfill or something. I remember my father singing Jackson in his red Gran Torino. I didn't know his name but I sure knew his voice. He had the same attitude towards 'long haireds' as Cash expressed in this interview. But I wonder if they only believed in sending young Americans to almost certain death when around their buddies. I bet so many dads really oppsed the war but would not dare say so. There was no twitter etc to know if it was safe to say their true opinion. Springsteen told a story on his live album about how his dad gave him hell about his long hair and that he needed to go register for the draft. When Bruce got back from registering his father asked 'how'd it go'. Bruce said 'they wouldn't take me.' His father said 'That's good.' I plan to visit Cash's childhood home on my way to Hendrix's grave and Cobain's house next summer.
I figured he didn't like hippies very much from the song Man in Black. I did not know how bad Johnny really hated them. I don't know where you got this from but this should be in the National Archives this is really interesting. What happened to your reel-to-reel? Was that a dumpster dive? I don't even want to talk about the politics of Vietnam. It was a lot like Iraq and Iran. And we left people behind to die in this one and that one. I guess they won't ever learn nobody wins in war. Had a very good artist friend who was in Vietnam and it destroyed him forever. And before he died he said what he thought about the war what a waste it was. So if he had a conscience does that make him anti-American?
Hippies/woke same difference. I have been a Cash fan all my life. Read all his memoirs and biographies and can tell you he would be appalled at the current state of Woke culture. One thing I never heard him talk about was that his brother had died from a injury in a school shop. I assumed he got hurt in a saw mill. Great find.
I very much doubt Cash would be hollering about "woke culture." He had empathy for many people (which is what "woke" means), and a wide range of taste in music.
Never met or even seen a Johnny cash show however I did have the opportunity to visit his and June's grave in Hendersonville. I still remember standing there thinking I'm standing less than 10 feet from Johnny cash while at the same time never being further from him than I could ever be. Johnny cash was a musician but in terms of the impact he had on the world manufactured or not leaves me finding myself searching for the appropriate description to use and all I've got is, ICON!
I'm thinking this was the attitudes, which I broadly agree with, of a generation ago. We have sleep walked into the slow march of communism. Sneeky bastards.
I'm sure Johnny did feel anger towards them, but I'm not sure if he was This angry. Drugs messed him up a lot and he did have an alter ego of sorts named Cash. Whenever he would get into one of his moods June would say "Get out of here, Cash, I want John!"
My dad and Johnny Cash were next door neighbors back in Dyess Colony (now just Dyess) Arkansas as teenagers. The only records I ever saw dad buy were by Johnny Cash
Huge Johnny Cash fan. Like everyone, he had his faults. We sometimes forget that stars are just like us, with the same weaknesses. But he rose above his poverty and his weaknesses by the sheer magic of his talent, with a lot of help from June and Mother Mabel. ( Aint it funny that when we men get our butts in a crack, it usually takes strong women to straighten us out). Great interview. Thanks for this great post, Brad!
As a ~real~ 'hippie' (from back when the distinction meant something) ~and~ a 100% service-connected Disabled Veteran, I highly approve this interview....there was a lot going on at the time, and Cash had his ~own~ stuff he was working through, too (former Army code-breaker, married into the Carter witch-family of AR, popular music getting all Political suddenly, etc). I think his beef was with what politics had brought us all to; not with 'hippies' per se. It ~was~ a tragic, contrived war, hippies in the streets ~were~ the first bunch to call it that, and, yet, traumatizing guys who'd gotten caught up in it on their way back was an awful thing. There were a LOT of political 'activists' hanging out among us at the time, pretending to be 'hippies', and using us to make their own voices seem louder.........
@@TeleCaster66 It's not like it's a Big Secret, bro; so is that little guy 'former child prodigy Marty Stuart'. It's not the kind of thing artists put in their Press Kit (except maybe in 'metal' lol), but it's not a 'big thing' to the Business, in Country Music, or anywhere else. It might, however, figure more prominently if you were planning on getting a divorce to marry into such an inter-generational 'coven family' yourself....... Over the years, I've run into a type of person who, rather than doing their own 'research' when some new information piques their interest, gets others to do theirs for them by challenging the claim (not because they 'know better', but because they've 'never heard it before'). It sounds like you have no idea whether June Carter belongs to a 'witch family' or not; you just don't care for the idea (and apparently think it's the kind of thing people would just Make Up about specific people to say on the internet.....!). If you're interested in Johnny Cash yourself, there's a lot you could learn all by yourself (such as what you didn't like me mentioning there) if you wished. Did you know that his brother-in-law (June's brother) was Johnny Cash's lifelong fishing buddy? Johnny Cash, who ~obviously~ wrote 'Ring of Fire' (for example), gave June the 'songwriting credit' on that song (which JC claimed was about that fuzzy little thing she sat on!) right before ~they~ divorced, so she'd have some $ coming in. If you look on the record, it says *she* wrote it. Anyway, you can just ask around, too. Know any people from Arkansas? Anyone around 'country music'? Know any wiccans? I was mentioning (in the first place) Johnny Cash's personal Scene at the time; not how I (or anyone else) might feel about 'witches' in the abstract.....as you seem to have taken it. "Will the circle, be unbroken............"
Sure do appreciate you bring this to the public. He came to a restaurant in Panama city Beach, Fl. He was a lot bigger than I thought. Nice enough to talk to people and sign stuff. Thanks for your channel. I did subscribe and encourage people to do the same. Not often that you can help someone and it just takes a moment to do.
Idk if this is supposed to make people want to "Cancel" John Cash, but that'll never happen. This simply makes me see him as a regular, flawed human being...
Thanks for sharing this. People who have gotten past hard times are made tough by them. I appreciate the tough folks, as it reminds me of some of my family elders. I play music, despite it not running deep in my family. When you didn't have work, you went and found some, or made your own job.
0:00 Intro & Provenance
3:37 Family in Arkansas
5:57 Air Force Service
6:30 Early Music Career
7:48 Biggest Disappointments
10:19 Drug Arrest
14:20 Move to Nashville, Divorce, June Carter
15:04 Country Music Business
19:42 Horns in "Ring of Fire"
20:57 Jimmie Rodgers
23:40 Anti-War Hippies
26:27 Vietnam Tour Plans
27:21 Outro
BUT that makes even more profound Mr Cash's final anti-war stance - right? Saw it himself?
Saw that 20,00 GIs were in drug treatment? Heard that in '68 200 officers were fragged by lower ranks? Keep in mind: the Pentagon Papers, My Lai & Phoenix program were not yet known to Mr Cash in late ''69 - or anyone.
Dude-not even the pilots knew they were bombing Cambodia & Laos, for a whole year BEFORE the kids at Kent St at Jackson State were shot.
Think Johnny Cash did not realize the greatness of the song, Ohio? The theme from Woodstock? And those are just 3 Canadian ones - add Ed McCurdy - Bruce Cockburn.
Sorry but that's the spin a sensitive person should take from this - after twice as long and just about as wrong a war in Afghanistan.
Seen another way: a genuine NVA attack in Gulf of Tonkin would not wipe out what MLK, Country Joe, Bob Dylan said, about that war, & all war..
What town did cash live in I. North east Arkansas great interview
What a great thing to hear. I loved this man as a kid. This is before he was to really hit it big again I think. There is a real man there. Built himself up with his own Will. No RUclips. No nothing.
@@jimmychilds5989 Dyess. A farming community set up as part of the TVA if I remember correctly.
Wait a second - I know that musicians are sensitive people, already - apologies for where I talked down to the Guitolog-y audience. My guess Mr Cash would & maybe did wind up agreeing with Gen Butler's book title: War Is A Racket.
I worked down the road from the Cash's home at a small market in Hendersonville, TN as a teenager. A lot of country music artist would come into the store and most were not nice people. But June and Johnny were always very nice to everyone and would talk to fans and take time to talk to them.
An elderly woman I worked with was a big fan and had all his albums. He would bring her an autographed album when he came in to the store. When the industry switched to CD's he brought her a CD and she told him she didn't have anything to play a CD on. A couple of hours later the Cash's assistant showed up with the biggest boombox I've ever seen and spent an hour showing her how to use it and play CDs and gave her his card and said if she had any questions to call him. That's what I remember about the Cash's.
I Love hearing stories like this. Thank You for sharing.
Awesome, thanks for sharing your story. 👍
What did Conway say and do ? How was he so mean ?
Thank you for sharing that memory.
My sister was crazy about Conway, she wrote him back when he first started and he sent her a photo of himself...the picture was an actual picture not one of those professional glossy photos entertainers have made up for their fans...i figured anyone that took the time to write his fans instead of rubber stamping an autograph form letter had to be a decent person...
I was so lucky back in 1969 to see him and the carter family in subic bay the Philippines . i was a 19 year old sailor on the Kitty Hawk. My buddies were going and i didn't care for him but went with them. I will never forget that night, and he has been one of my favorite people ever since. He made us sailors feel loved and honored by his presence.
I love the fact that someone watching this 50 years later saw him in concert over there. Feels like it came full circle through you.
Awesome story.
Love it
@@timedwards8944 It was more of a lark. I was raised in an airforce family My dad was a major, and treated the family like we were in the air force, so lacking social skills to strike of on my own and due to the fact that some of the recent graduates of my high school had been killed in asia somewhere by the yellow man, i decided i might just learn to become a diesel mechanic which paid well , allowed me to wear cool uniforms. well i joined the day i turned 18 cause the folks wouldn't sigh me up, my dad wanted me to join the army and go infantry as he stated with my abilities i would go far in the army. I did well in the military as i knew basically what the game was all about. i was first a boiler tender which was a sucky job, but i managed to land a job in the engineering log room, the captains office of the uss kitty hawk, then to a squadron of fighter pilots on the uss shangrila, always a yeoman, who doesn't stand watch or get dirty. paper work officers pay and vacation records, so i was treated like a prince by all the officers. no when folks say thank you for your service, i cannot dig it, as the navy gave me a place to escape from home and find out who i was and what i could do. I only set foot in vietnam once, and we were pulling into Danang Harbor to retrieve one of the uss missouri's guns. Our senior chief was being transferred and i helped carry his sea bag and personal belongings off the ship, so i could go to the base P.X. and buy a milk shake. Thanks for the thanks.
Had a similar experience with Kid Rock!
@@johngillon6969
My uncle served on the Kitty Hawk during the Vietnam "conflict" (not sure of the years).
He joined the navy before getting drafted into the army!
Hes an outstanding Uncle.
Dad's are more right than wrong, but I bet your happy you didn't follow your dad's advice & go army for that conflict.
It just seems to me that serving in the army in that theatre would've been very, very frustrating.
Imagine if you told Johnny Cash in 1967 that someday, circa Christmas 2021, 70,000 people would tune in to listen to this interview on tiny shiny machines they held in their hands. Even 18 years after his death. He could not have fathomed that.
Or how the leaders of the world would use peoples own fear to control them into "compliance" and screw over the entire world economy for the corpos. How tech companies are censoring everyone who dissents from the msm narrative.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq you bet! Hahaha that too!
I'm just amazed at how similar both of ^their voices are. At the very beginning of this interview, it sounded as if JC was referring to himself in the 3rd person! Then I realized it was the show host.
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq Meh. The leaders of the world were doing all that in the 50s and 60s too. Have been for centuries if not thousands of years. I'm pretty sure writers like Cash understood that the powerful always prey on the weak and the rich get richer while regular folks get screwed. Manipulating people, censoring people, it's all as old as humanity. We just think it's new because it's happening to us.
@@dogslobbergardens6606 Aint nothin new...kids think they're smarter than us wise old owls.
Funny thing is, 99% of those original hippies became the very machine they were protesting!! 😂
Yep, my generation meant well but fucked up.
Right? As soon as they got families and kids of their own they became total sellouts. From "peace and love" to "greed is good".
@@AmiJurgl only Jesus can change a heart not mandates or regulations or legislation.
100%, my brother was in college with hippies who chastised him for not dressing like them. But by senior year they looked like federal agents cause they need a job. Bunch of hypocrites.
Preach
There is no question that Cash changed his views somewhat after he traveled to perform in Vietnam and after the Kent State shooting. He says as much in the liner notes to the "Man In Black" Album where he says: “A year ago, I had done a lot less thinking than I have now.”
This presenter seems to really like the drama.
I’m sure he didn’t know the full extent of what was happening yet. Surface level it seems the right thing to do is to support your country and go fight but in reality it was basically just raping and pillaging in a foreign war that we could never have won
some of the Kent State fatalities were justified though, they were physically attacking soldiers, Id expect to get killed if I did that, too bad innocents got hit.
@@seanbrennan5192 it was a winnable war, we just didnt have leadership that was interested in winning it. The main thing is we should never have been there to start with. Thats hard to say, because of what the vietcong were doing to people, but in the end we're not the worlds police.
@@Mccaid I'd have to agree.It could have been won,but at what cost?Even with us being held back we did quite a bit of damage to at least three different countries.We wrecked Laos with bombs.Agenent orange and unexploded ordinance are still huge problems.
The more I learn about this man, as well as listen to his music, the more I love him!
It wasnt dope, it was just a bunch of speed and tranquilizers😂
Johnny has an autobiography where he talks about spending years alone in his cabin pacing around geeking out on uppers and downers. June Carter saved him. It's funny how he minimizes these powerful drugs that almost killed him.
This was before the current scheduling of drugs. He probably thought of them as diet pills and sleeping pills, not "dope" to get high
At that point in time, I believe that you could still get morphine out of the Sears & Roebuck catalogue.
wow what a gem! thank you for uploading this!
That sounded like Johnny Cash interviewing Johnny Cash. The voices were almost identical. I just about would bet that interviewer could sing like Cash, him being a D.J. and listening to music for a living.
When I was in my teens and twenties I was bullet proof and knew everything. Now I'm in my fifties and my paradigm has been shattered so many time's I just don't know anymore.
So I don't find it strange or surprising that Johnny's views changed with time.
Wow, what a piece of history. It's neat where he talks about his house on Old Hickory Lake being built, and his drug arrest in his own words. Love it, thanks for sharing.
THIS INTERVIEW IS HILARIOUS! "i don't do no narcotics", and then ''i did some 600 pep pills and then got some tranquilizers "' this should really go viral brad. thanks for sharing it!
Adderall and Xanax
@@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Oh Yeah, i forgot about the "Benzedrine" comments.this interview truly is a jem!
Narcotics means Heroin/ Opiates.
@@olecranonrebellion9976 yes, in truth those are the original class of narcotics.
Do you have a gun? " No. It's a relica
What a very special thing we all just listened to. Thank you Brad for bringing us this. Love your channel. I don’t know shit about electronics but I do find your repairs fantastic!
Wow! What a legendary interview! Thanks for sharing, Brad!
Awesome interview,thanx Brad for sharing this it means a lot to us die-hard country music fans.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you SO much Brad for sharing these invaluable riches of interviews. Eyes full of tears listenin’ to both Carl and Johnny. Can’t thank you enough man
Glad the record is finally being set straight. The interviews are priceless and show how history in later years can be changed to fit what other people want that history to be.
it shows his opinion before he went to Vietnam and how it changed after he found out the truth.
Wonderful to hear this. Thanks for putting this out.
Hey Brad, these are truly a treasure. They are priceless, thank you for sharing them with us I find this incredibly fascinating
Every time I see NASCAR or the Nashville scene bowing down I’d like to be able to take over the airwaves for a day and out this on repeat.
Wow. Pure Gold. This guy was a great interviewer. And Johnny is so honest and straightforward. Riveting stuff. Nice job Brad.
I think it helped that the interviewer had a similar background as Johnny so he could relate and feel comfortable
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"They're just as much enemy as the Viet Cong." Correct. The Viet Cong were not our enemy. The protesters were not our enemy. Our Government was.
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Depends on where you were and what you came home to.
The hippies were directed by communists
The hippies offered nothing good as an alternative
I am really impressed that the guitarologist is letting go with this information this interview especially because I believe that that taped does have a considerable value being a one-of-a-kind and all I'm surprised that somebody would not take this tape and put it for sale at auction for a large dollar amount again kudos to a very generous thing to do
Thanks Brad. What amazing piece of history. Really glad it ended up in your hands.
Thanks for sharing this with everyone, Brad.
Thank you again Brad for being willing to save and share this bit of lost history. I feel privileged to be a part of experiencing this/these interview/s. You are to be applauded for having the smarts to use your channel to share this with those that will listen. On a very personal note; It is no surprise to me that Johnny Cash would support the troops and hate the hippies. I don't think it was "hippies" as much as it was the misguided, uninformed terrible things some would say and do to the troops as they came home. I would and do feel much the same today. Without getting into a potential political policy debate. I don't support many of the conflicts that we are involved in, most of those cases are places I believe we really don't belong. I do however support the men and women that are serving in those conflicts because they have not only earned it but they deserve it. This sentiment is still carried today with protesters blaming the soldier for the war rather than the government/s that are involved. I was a child when troops were coming home from Vietnam but I still remember the "Americans" holding the "Baby Killer", "Monster" signs and spitting on those men as they came home. Even as a child this made me sad and confused enough that I would talk about it with my Grandpa. It makes me sad and angry to see that same misguided, uniformed and terrible sentiment happening today.
No evidence exists of GI getting spat upon. Got any? I don't care about hippies after living through that nonsense. They were greedy druggies and wealthy college kids.
@@cravinbob Only my personal memories of time during which the U.S.A. departed from Vietnam. I am not going to get into a debate with you or anyone else regarding my personal memories. The point of my statement is that many Veterans were treated poorly by their fellow citizens when they came home That is an ugly truth. I happen to be of the opinion that this memory is at the very least plausible. Since I am citing my personal memories I feel no obligation to prove my statement above of that memory. Why you may want to ask? Because the memory is mine and I am not inflicting my memory on any specific person. Since you have no basis on which to show my memory to be false either I choose to leave my statement above as it is. As stated many times now I will not debate my personal memories. Were I to accuse a specific person of this I would of course, back my claim with research and cite any references that I found both in support of my claim and those against it. Keep in mind this is my memory of events that happened 50 to 51 years ago. As we all know the human memory is extremely fallible and generally changes as time passes. For me this happened when I was 5 or 6 so my memory is likely skewed by my experiences growing up and living my life. I am not claiming that ALL protesters of the war spit on G.I.'s. Nor am I saying that ALL hippies were at fault for this. I will grant that many Americans did indeed blame the political powers and not the soldiers. This includes the hippies of the time as well. I will not, however, change the description of my memories of the time to please you. I hope this helps you understand the statement I made. Have a super day sir.
@@cravinbob "no evidence exists of GIs getting spat on"?!
19 veterans per day commit suicide in this country.. meditate on that
@@jayham____fromgeorgia I'm aware of this tragic and awful fact. I'm not sure why you've posted this comment here. I'm in complete support of our veterans and believe there must be change. I'm not sure what in my statements led you to think that I somehow don't support veterans. I'm speaking directly about wrongs done to G. I.s returning from Vietnam and how terrible I think that is. That is only one example of wrongs done to our fine veterans. So to be clear. My memories of seeing this on TV as a child is something I do not agree with. Our veterans deserve the best we can give not the worst.
I loved hearing this! Thanks for posting this Brad. God bless you and our country.
Right on. I knew I liked Johnny Cash. He's the man.
Black Sabbath didn't care for hippies either
It wasn't drugs it was dexidrine.
Sounds like Johnny Cash is Interviewing Johnny Cash 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Very few people came out of the sixties the way they went in.
There was a lot of difference between 1967 and even 1969. Most of the public changed their views during that time.
Thanks Brad, That was great. I mess with tube amps like you, I have actually learned a lot from you and Uncle Doug. I have several reel to reels and I love when there is an old tape there. One of them I got from a 54' revere had this cool tape where half was what sounded like a bunch of old war buddies from probably WW2 or Korea singing all these songs like soldiers back then would sing to pass the time. Likely all those men are dead but they live on on this tape. Another tape I have is a family in the 70s because they are doing these mock TV news shows and interviews and they talk about Jimmy Carter etc. It is a snapshot of lives from the past.
Time capsules. Ghosts on tape.
As a former "on-air personality" myself [1983-1994], I thoroughly enjoyed the back-and-forth banter during the interview; however, my ears 'perked up' when I heard Johnny mention that he held the 'rights' to Jimmie Rodgers' life story **and** catalog (at @ 21:00)-- !! So, what happened to those rights? Did they become part of the legacy that Johnny passed on to his progeny? I would **love** to see a biopic properly done on the life & songs of Jimmie Rodgers!! If anyone knows the answers to these questions, please feel free to respond!! Blessed Be, & Peace!!
I think he talked about that in his autobiography too iirc.
Thank you Brad for sharing these priceless tape interviews,Merry Christmas,Cheers!
Lots of people rewriting history these days… thanks for sharing this gem!
He tried to walk the line on big public stages to not offend people and still sell records but he was a good ol’ boy through and through. I don’t blame people for not wanting to talk about this stuff in public and just be entertaining though that is their job after all.
wow brad they do sound so much alike thanks for sharing these
I lot of people don’t know that Johnny was a code breaker in the Air Force. They tried to get him to reenlist, but he had his heart set on music. He started playing in prisons but was never locked up except for maybe a night here and there. The only one of the sixties outlaws that was in prison was Merle Haggard he was in the audience during one of johns live prison recordings. Back in the sixties managers would take an artist and build a lot on their image. The colonel did that with Elvis. He wouldn’t let him do songs on controversial subjects. Elvis went against him the first time in his career with the song In the ghetto. It went to number one.
Cash is definitely not a Limp Wrested Soy Boy.
Lmfaooo
Enjoyed it very much. Thank you for publishing this gem! 🙏👍🏻
So glad the interviews have been recovered. Especially the the interview on about hippies which shows how he thought of hippies in a negative light then later on after going to Vietnam and seeing what was happening his views on hippies and war has changed.
What a great great interview. God bless J.C.
Great work on this material once again Brad! I hadn't seen the Netflix documentary till your mention of it here. Concerning their presentation I'm left wondering if they knew and didn't tell or just didn't know. It certainly raises the ante on the historical value of these interviews.
On the country music side of this discussion was a revealing insight as to it's current state and where it would be heading. Ironic was Wooten's lament of the use of "hillbilly" to describe the music and the "cornball" nature of the jokes told, when in two short years one of the most popular television shows ever would be doubling down on both of those!
Yep. And that show is an institution. Thank you again for sharing this tape with the world, Dave. I’m grateful you chose my lowly channel to bestow it upon. I hope I have done these justice.
Thank you Dave 👍
Thank you Brad, this was awesome. Hope you had a good Christmas. God bless you brother.
I did. Thank you. Happy New Year!
I wish Cash's plans for a Jimmie Rogers movie had happened. Haggard did a great album covering Jimmie's songs. Cash was a direct and plain spoken guy. His views changed later in life. His best friend Waylon made a career playing to college crowds a decade later.
What a score to find all those tapes!
Definitely subscribed.
I can understand an early distaste for "hippies" especially since in the Air Force, he was in the Security Service, which consisted of the top 2% of enlisted airmen (i.e. the smartest of the smart). I believe he was a 292 (what we called a "dittybop") and since he was stationed in Germany, his job probably was to listen and transcribe Soviet Morse code transmissions. For that, he had to have a security clearance that was actually higher than Top Secret. Besides his great music, Johnny Cash kept us safe during the Cold War.
His reluctance to talk about his service in the interview was because all that was still classified. Today, it has been declassified.
Cash’s mind and perspective did change after performing in Vietnam, Kent State Shooting, and interacting with the Nixon administration
Great interview that proves a thinking man is willing to change his opinion as the facts warrant. I was sorry to see him go and listen to his music often, I especially like one of his last recordings - Hurt. That was straight from the heart of a man who knew he was facing his end.
Great interview. Funny honest man. My dad still has his reel to reel. Thx for sharing
In the late 60’s early 70’s Johnny Cash was one of the top entertainers in America. Glen Campbell and Elvis were up there too
Wow man you come up with the most obscure interesting stuff !!!
That is awesome! Thank you. Fun to hear all of that sibilance from such an iconic voice.
you should do a restoration video with that johnny cash guitar you found in the swamp,start by fixing the finish with a wire brush then wash it off with a pressure washer and re-touch up the finish with a paint roller and latex paint
It's a fine line. You can hate the war, but that doesn't mean you have to insult returning soldiers who never had a say in the matter.
Makes perfect sense. The nation was generally patriotic until it started getting out that the Government was not being truthful about why we were in Vietnam. He was a man in his time. Many of the others like John Wayne were correct in their own perspectives. The Duke was in support of the establishment and Cash was too until his eyes were opened in a way that took many years. Its called history
Different Time period
When you have 3 channels and can only trust the radio and papers, it's hard for me to hold peoples head under for not knowing they were being lied too. As you said it's history.
Yea people had Good sense back then they don’t makem like that anymore just bunch spoiled know it all’s nowadays
“I’m shooting it to you straight.” Yep. Love his haunting Ghost Riders in the Sky. Good stuff. 👍
Mr. Cash was a hell of a man. Sadly, not many like him left.
This interview was really interesting to hear ! Thank You very much for uploading !
Singing from the heart to the heart. Best line ever…..
Cash was metal and didn't know it....he embraced the metal song writers,which,surprised me.
I perceive a legacy as well. He did what he felt convicted to do.
He also sang a reggae song. With Joe Strummer.
Thanks for sharing this man
Brad, you've struck gold with this.
Hell yea Johnny stick with the Vets. My Dad was combat Veteran Vietnam 11th cavalry 66-67 .. his Dad my Granpa fought in France WW2. My Dads oldest brother waz combat Veteran Vietnam with Marine corps. God Bless thoze who served our great Nation
Awesome Brad! Thanks for sharing this with us!
Sounds like Johnny Cash interviewing Johnny Cash lol.
Wow that was so interesting! I'm a huge Cash fan. Thank goodness you found these tapes. Otherwise they might have ended up in a landfill or something.
I remember my father singing Jackson in his red Gran Torino. I didn't know his name but I sure knew his voice. He had the same attitude towards 'long haireds' as Cash expressed in this interview. But I wonder if they only believed in sending young Americans to almost certain death when around their buddies. I bet so many dads really oppsed the war but would not dare say so. There was no twitter etc to know if it was safe to say their true opinion.
Springsteen told a story on his live album about how his dad gave him hell about his long hair and that he needed to go register for the draft. When Bruce got back from registering his father asked 'how'd it go'. Bruce said 'they wouldn't take me.' His father said 'That's good.'
I plan to visit Cash's childhood home on my way to Hendrix's grave and Cobain's house next summer.
Simply amazing, historically priceless! Good job Brad, thank you very much for sharing this.
I liked Johnny Cash before but now I love the guy. Spot on about hippies
Aside from his feelings about war this was a great history revelation for myself, so thank you !
This is amazing, kinda reminds me of a pod cast instead of a formal interview.
that "s" whistle is like a dagger in my ear . DAMN
Outstanding audio. Thanks for posting.
I figured he didn't like hippies very much from the song Man in Black. I did not know how bad Johnny really hated them. I don't know where you got this from but this should be in the National Archives this is really interesting. What happened to your reel-to-reel? Was that a dumpster dive? I don't even want to talk about the politics of Vietnam. It was a lot like Iraq and Iran. And we left people behind to die in this one and that one. I guess they won't ever learn nobody wins in war. Had a very good artist friend who was in Vietnam and it destroyed him forever. And before he died he said what he thought about the war what a waste it was. So if he had a conscience does that make him anti-American?
John’s book , ‘Man in black’ is very good..only book I ever cried reading…so sad about his brother Jack’s death…
Hippies/woke same difference. I have been a Cash fan all my life. Read all his memoirs and biographies and can tell you he would be appalled at the current state of Woke culture. One thing I never heard him talk about was that his brother had died from a injury in a school shop. I assumed he got hurt in a saw mill. Great find.
I very much doubt Cash would be hollering about "woke culture." He had empathy for many people (which is what "woke" means), and a wide range of taste in music.
Never met or even seen a Johnny cash show however I did have the opportunity to visit his and June's grave in Hendersonville. I still remember standing there thinking I'm standing less than 10 feet from Johnny cash while at the same time never being further from him than I could ever be. Johnny cash was a musician but in terms of the impact he had on the world manufactured or not leaves me finding myself searching for the appropriate description to use and all I've got is, ICON!
Unequivocally, in hindsight, the Vietnam war supporters turned out to be fighting the wrong battle, in what could be the single stupidest war ever…8\
A true American and a great patriot as well as a great artist.
At times I couldn't tell which one was Johnny. Similar voices.
I'm thinking this was the attitudes, which I broadly agree with, of a generation ago. We have sleep walked into the slow march of communism. Sneeky bastards.
I'm sure Johnny did feel anger towards them, but I'm not sure if he was This angry. Drugs messed him up a lot and he did have an alter ego of sorts named Cash.
Whenever he would get into one of his moods June would say "Get out of here, Cash, I want John!"
Great video. Thank you.
Hell yeah, Johny cash was a true American!!!!
We need people like him today!
My dad and Johnny Cash were next door neighbors back in Dyess Colony (now just Dyess) Arkansas as teenagers. The only records I ever saw dad buy were by Johnny Cash
Wow ,that was amazing to listen to, Johnny cash was as real as it gets right there
Great find here! Important earlier perspective on his views.
Very good. Incredibly interesting. Thanks Brad.
Very enjoyable. Thank you.
Huge Johnny Cash fan. Like everyone, he had his faults. We sometimes forget that stars are just like us, with the same weaknesses. But he rose above his poverty and his weaknesses by the sheer magic of his talent, with a lot of help from June and Mother Mabel. ( Aint it funny that when we men get our butts in a crack, it usually takes strong women to straighten us out). Great interview. Thanks for this great post, Brad!
As a ~real~ 'hippie' (from back when the distinction meant something) ~and~ a 100% service-connected Disabled Veteran, I highly approve this interview....there was a lot going on at the time, and Cash had his ~own~ stuff he was working through, too (former Army code-breaker, married into the Carter witch-family of AR, popular music getting all Political suddenly, etc). I think his beef was with what politics had brought us all to; not with 'hippies' per se. It ~was~ a tragic, contrived war, hippies in the streets ~were~ the first bunch to call it that, and, yet, traumatizing guys who'd gotten caught up in it on their way back was an awful thing.
There were a LOT of political 'activists' hanging out among us at the time, pretending to be 'hippies', and using us to make their own voices seem louder.........
Carter witch family? Says who? Sounds like BS to me but I'm open to hearing why you say this.
@@TeleCaster66 It's not like it's a Big Secret, bro; so is that little guy 'former child prodigy Marty Stuart'. It's not the kind of thing artists put in their Press Kit (except maybe in 'metal' lol), but it's not a 'big thing' to the Business, in Country Music, or anywhere else. It might, however, figure more prominently if you were planning on getting a divorce to marry into such an inter-generational 'coven family' yourself.......
Over the years, I've run into a type of person who, rather than doing their own 'research' when some new information piques their interest, gets others to do theirs for them by challenging the claim (not because they 'know better', but because they've 'never heard it before'). It sounds like you have no idea whether June Carter belongs to a 'witch family' or not; you just don't care for the idea (and apparently think it's the kind of thing people would just Make Up about specific people to say on the internet.....!). If you're interested in Johnny Cash yourself, there's a lot you could learn all by yourself (such as what you didn't like me mentioning there) if you wished. Did you know that his brother-in-law (June's brother) was Johnny Cash's lifelong fishing buddy? Johnny Cash, who ~obviously~ wrote 'Ring of Fire' (for example), gave June the 'songwriting credit' on that song (which JC claimed was about that fuzzy little thing she sat on!) right before ~they~ divorced, so she'd have some $ coming in. If you look on the record, it says *she* wrote it.
Anyway, you can just ask around, too. Know any people from Arkansas? Anyone around 'country music'? Know any wiccans?
I was mentioning (in the first place) Johnny Cash's personal Scene at the time; not how I (or anyone else) might feel about 'witches' in the abstract.....as you seem to have taken it.
"Will the circle, be unbroken............"
Sure do appreciate you bring this to the public. He came to a restaurant in Panama city Beach, Fl. He was a lot bigger than I thought. Nice enough to talk to people and sign stuff. Thanks for your channel. I did subscribe and encourage people to do the same. Not often that you can help someone and it just takes a moment to do.
Great interview Brad.
Idk if this is supposed to make people want to "Cancel" John Cash, but that'll never happen.
This simply makes me see him as a regular, flawed human being...
this shows what he believed before and then how he progressed as he learned the truth.
24:10 Fence sitting he sure as hell wasn’t. Things sure haven’t changed.
Thanks for sharing this. People who have gotten past hard times are made tough by them. I appreciate the tough folks, as it reminds me of some of my family elders. I play music, despite it not running deep in my family. When you didn't have work, you went and found some, or made your own job.
Yup. Hardly anybody mentions that divorce that left his wife and daughters STRAY.
You seen the documentary on Vivian?