Also the atmosphere! The music plays part in that. But the design, dialogue around them, architecture, enemies, etc. It leaves so much to the imagination you can't help but theorise about potential lore!
They’re dungeons! Each with their own traps, hidden places and mechanics - we need more of them and they should be outstanding in BOTW2, Nintendo have plenty of experience!
Perhaps because Link was sent back to be a child by Zelda, Majora’s Mask is Link needing to overcome the challenges of the spirit temple that he didn’t get to overcome. Majora’s mask represents the sun and it uses the moon to kill Termina.
The atmosphere. They're not just... places with traps and puzzles. They have a theme, they are designed so that you feel like you are adventuring into a real place that existed for a real purpose. And maybe that purpose has been twisted.... or not. You can theorize about what that purpose is. In some other Zelda games, the dungeons (or whatever you want to call them depending on the game) are so sterile and out of place. feeling like they were built just for the player/Link to get through. They're like if 2D zelda dungeons were remade in 3D. It's not perfect. The Water Temple in OoT is an example of a sterile, out of place dungeon that exists in many of the other games. could a be a 2D dungeon remade in 3D. The Fire Temple straddles the line. But the Shadow Temple, Forest Temple, Spirit Temple, Deku Tree, Jabu Jabu, Dodonga Cavern, all really immerse me into a place that feels rich with lore. tl;dr Ocarina of Time dungeons are so special because they feel like real places that had a reason to exist. Not structures built just to stop Link from getting a macguffin.
Spirit was always was my favorite temple. The cultural atmosphere, aesthetic, and music. Such that Nintendo would probably not use today. The use the time travel, its lore with the gerudo, meeting Nabooru and learning more about them. Even mechanically with the traps and light puzzles resonate with me. I also think it requires every dungeon item in the inventory which means more diverse puzzle mechanics excluding gear.
Nabooru will always be my favorite sage (and gerudo in general). The outlier in that she's the only one you don't meet before getting put to 7 year sleep (Well... Ignoring the technicality of the time travel shenanigans), she's formerly the right hand of the main villain which in a series that would more often explore perspectives of characters without the player being present would be a much bigger deal. But it's Zelda, so what we get is good enough. Her ideals line her up to be a more lupin the third kind of thief which i greatly enjoy bringing her to conflict with the big bad. In general, the Gerudo are a very interesting culture in Zelda and home to a surprising number of prominent figures all present in the same game in OoT. Just everything around her is so interesting and i just really like her general personality as well. And yeah she's also really hot, which helps.
It would be nice if the stories delved into maybe more mature themes within the already mature theme; something like hy rule royalty not being perfect and maybe having taken over and pushed out the gerudos and that’s why they revolt, like make a game where Ganon was just trying to save his people and lost himself along the way; to make him and the hylians more round characters
I'm 30. Played this game a dozen times and never once played the spirit temple last. Always went to it before the shadow temple... I think the game plays better that way.
This adds depth to the Ganondorf of WW who discusses his motivations. I wonder if that Ganon recognized what his mothers did and how they affected the Gerudo? This is also why the two victory timeline Ganons act differently after. TP Ganon was never actually defeated so he was still brainwashed by Twinrova. I wonder how BOTW2 Ganon will act? I wonder if the Calamity is simply a manifestation of Demise’s hatred mixed with Gabon’s power/his emotion. If my theory is right then that could help place BOTW and AoC in canon. Because AoC’s story is confirmed to be alternate timeline. This makes me want to see BOTW Ganon revived and maybe see his as an antihero either righting his past wrongs or helping stop demise.
I totally agree! One of my biggest dreams for the zelda serie is to deepen even more than we saw in WW such an iconic character as Ganondorf, and I'm so happy that I noticed that a lot of people think the same. The latest trailers of Botw 2 showed a particular attention on him, hoping he will be in his human form and why not, whishing a sort of "redemption" or as you said his version as an antihero. So thrilled!
Great video, but I have to disagree with Kotake and Koume being the Godess of the Sand. They just use the temple as their base, but there's no indication that they built it or tried to be worshipped as a godess.
Agreed, and the title ‘Goddess of Sand’ stands for the Goddess of Time Going further on that: the temple is waaay older than Twinrova, has items meant for the Hero of Time, and it’s the ONLY temple that strictly requires completion in both the past and future It was totally intentional, down to the ‘hourglass figure’ the statue has The Goddess of Sand is literally an hourglass in the desert representing both time itself and the Goddess of Time HERself, the final duality
Agreed. I think the theory is long in the past the Gerudo people worshipped the Goddess of Time(Hylia) like all of the other cultures but developed their own representation of her, a.k.a the Goddess of Sand. Koume and Kotake were just the matriarchs of the Gerudo tribe due to their age and magic uses. They stayed in the Spirit Temple and pulled the strings from a far but then raised Ganondorf, taught him dark magic, and declared him the king of their people.
That's the way I did it when I first beat the game. I did Shadow last because I didn't know how to get to it initially and thought the spirit temple was the way to go
I always used to take on the Shadow Temple last. But it does not matter much which of them you choose. I always considered the Shadow Temple as the last temple, because of the order of the Medallions on the start screen.
Completing the Shadow Temple first actually makes it easier to beat the Spirit Temple. The Lens of Truth and the Hover Boots make the Spirit Temple a breeze. Granted you can pick whichever you want but the atmosphere and theme of Spirit feels like the intended end.
I thought it was a temple for the blessing of the Gerudo tribe. Until it was taken over by the two sorcerer’s who captured Naburoo and making her communicate through ganondolf that the hyrule was a fault for her kidnapping and to stop link from entering the fortress.
This was a great video I'm glad were getting some videos that aren't botw we're really running out of things to talk about botw so we might as well revisit past games
You've hit onto something with the duality of the temple and the conflict between the Islamic caliphate and the Byzantines. Particularly since before Constantinople, before the crusades, before Jerusalem fell to Islam the border between Byzantine and the Caliphate in the 700-900s was at Palestine/Jordan where Petra is located. The sun and moon was a good spot. That's cool. However a couple of assumptions you've made that haven't been established. Firstly we no very little about the war before Link was born. Ganondorfs army clearly consists of Gerudo but also would include mobiles, stalfos, lizalfos etc. We know at the end that he swears fealty to the King. But did he switch sides at the end or was he always an ally of the King on the surface and was manipulating things behind the scenes? Which two sides were there? We simply don't know. Also I think the goddess of sand being Twinrova is a stretch. You've implied that as their lair is behind the head. But they may simply be priestess' facilitating the worship rather than the object. I think the more plausible theory is that the goddess of sand is Din. Who made the red earth. Ganon desires power more than anything else so it would make sense if he was raised esteeming Din above the others. I think it makes sense that all the gerudo worship Din. This doesn't mean that Din herself is evil. Just that her worshippers who prize power over everything else are corrupted in that direction. Although the idea that the goddesses aren't benevolent is interesting. They are very infrequently involved in any of the affairs of Hyrule directly. Creation, flooding the world, giving Ganon the Triforce of power (in TP), creating a time-loop (MM). Those are the only times I can think of where the goddesses intervene.
I always loved the spirit temple being the last one before ganondorf/ganon. Shadow temple was super dark and bongo bongo was a pain in the ass. Spirit temple was much lighter, and the boss wasn’t as hard.
With time travel in mind, could the temple of time be used in BOTW2 to time travel once the master sword has been repaired. A great video and a great dungeon. We need dungeons in BOTW2🤞
I'm serious your like the Morgan Freeman of yout7be your voice is just so captivating. If you went and toured place that video games got there designs of off to make there worlds and make dads you would be famouse
Just wish nintendo would get off there ass remake Oot with today graphics and finish ura zelda put them together and I'd happily give them £100 all day for that
Where is the evidence that the goddess of the sand is actually Twinrova? He says it at the beginning and then later on later on states it as already established fact without proof, which I'm pretty sure is a fallacy.
@@danielschaefer9347 I don't even need it from Nintendo. I once heard an idea that the downfall timeline is just the original child or adult timeline before you change the windmill and while its debatable, he at least explained his rationale.
@@Cyclonus5 It's their game. Their development of the story/timeline. You don't someone's word for someone else's reasons why they did what they did. You go the Primary Source, not Secondary or beyond. That would be like me telling how the serpent was a god of the Zonai and when they left, Twinrova took over that temple and acted as the Serpent god. In order to prove theories or at least back up your premises for your argument, you need to have evidence from a Primary Source. I don't take anyone's word on anything unless they can back it up. You cannot prove to get rid of the fallacy (Incomplete Comparison) just because you give information. There must be evidence for the information, a Primary Source(Nintendo) that backs it up.
@@danielschaefer9347 Right, and what I'm saying is this person declares that Twinrova is the Goddess of the Sand and provides no evidence for it, and then claims it at established later on without evidence.
Twin rover poisoned ganondolf as they made the temple as a snake that’s why how ganondolf has become so evil those two crummy witches how could they I hope ganondolf can break free somehow or only link and Zelda can break that evil and bring him back to innocence will that be accomplished we shall wait and see in further games if it is possible.
@@MerkhVision from a game made before 911? A game made by Japanese game designers? And white people are the good guys doing the right thing taking it out because they care about other people's feelings? Does any of that make sense to what you said?
Nintendo should have just kept the original Gerudo symbols. But then again I'm not a religious zealot and never saw it as Christianity against Islam....
What makes the Dungeons in Ocarina of Time so Special?
THE MUSIC❤️
Also the atmosphere!
The music plays part in that. But the design, dialogue around them, architecture, enemies, etc. It leaves so much to the imagination you can't help but theorise about potential lore!
They’re dungeons! Each with their own traps, hidden places and mechanics - we need more of them and they should be outstanding in BOTW2, Nintendo have plenty of experience!
Perhaps because Link was sent back to be a child by Zelda, Majora’s Mask is Link needing to overcome the challenges of the spirit temple that he didn’t get to overcome. Majora’s mask represents the sun and it uses the moon to kill Termina.
The atmosphere. They're not just... places with traps and puzzles. They have a theme, they are designed so that you feel like you are adventuring into a real place that existed for a real purpose. And maybe that purpose has been twisted.... or not. You can theorize about what that purpose is. In some other Zelda games, the dungeons (or whatever you want to call them depending on the game) are so sterile and out of place. feeling like they were built just for the player/Link to get through. They're like if 2D zelda dungeons were remade in 3D.
It's not perfect. The Water Temple in OoT is an example of a sterile, out of place dungeon that exists in many of the other games. could a be a 2D dungeon remade in 3D. The Fire Temple straddles the line. But the Shadow Temple, Forest Temple, Spirit Temple, Deku Tree, Jabu Jabu, Dodonga Cavern, all really immerse me into a place that feels rich with lore.
tl;dr Ocarina of Time dungeons are so special because they feel like real places that had a reason to exist. Not structures built just to stop Link from getting a macguffin.
Spirit was always was my favorite temple. The cultural atmosphere, aesthetic, and music. Such that Nintendo would probably not use today. The use the time travel, its lore with the gerudo, meeting Nabooru and learning more about them. Even mechanically with the traps and light puzzles resonate with me. I also think it requires every dungeon item in the inventory which means more diverse puzzle mechanics excluding gear.
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same here. The Forest Temple is the runnerup.
To be honest I feel as if Zelda creators like you deserve more recognition
Spirit Temple, such an amazing place. From a sacred protected tribe, to the hideout of evil.
Can't blame you talking about this :P
OoT is such a masterpiece of a game. My only wish is that BotW2 will have dungeons to rival Oot
might be an unpopular opinion but I think Lakebed Temple from TP is one of the best dungeons ever made.
Nabooru will always be my favorite sage (and gerudo in general). The outlier in that she's the only one you don't meet before getting put to 7 year sleep (Well... Ignoring the technicality of the time travel shenanigans), she's formerly the right hand of the main villain which in a series that would more often explore perspectives of characters without the player being present would be a much bigger deal. But it's Zelda, so what we get is good enough. Her ideals line her up to be a more lupin the third kind of thief which i greatly enjoy bringing her to conflict with the big bad. In general, the Gerudo are a very interesting culture in Zelda and home to a surprising number of prominent figures all present in the same game in OoT. Just everything around her is so interesting and i just really like her general personality as well.
And yeah she's also really hot, which helps.
It would be nice if the stories delved into maybe more mature themes within the already mature theme; something like hy rule royalty not being perfect and maybe having taken over and pushed out the gerudos and that’s why they revolt, like make a game where Ganon was just trying to save his people and lost himself along the way; to make him and the hylians more round characters
Ganondorf kinda goes into that in WW.. explains his motives and how he just wanted that freedom..the wind.. for his own people
At the end of the day he is still the reincarnation of pure evil and only a fool would trust him
Both of those aspects are explored in Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, funny enough
I'm 30. Played this game a dozen times and never once played the spirit temple last. Always went to it before the shadow temple... I think the game plays better that way.
This adds depth to the Ganondorf of WW who discusses his motivations. I wonder if that Ganon recognized what his mothers did and how they affected the Gerudo? This is also why the two victory timeline Ganons act differently after. TP Ganon was never actually defeated so he was still brainwashed by Twinrova.
I wonder how BOTW2 Ganon will act? I wonder if the Calamity is simply a manifestation of Demise’s hatred mixed with Gabon’s power/his emotion. If my theory is right then that could help place BOTW and AoC in canon. Because AoC’s story is confirmed to be alternate timeline.
This makes me want to see BOTW Ganon revived and maybe see his as an antihero either righting his past wrongs or helping stop demise.
I totally agree! One of my biggest dreams for the zelda serie is to deepen even more than we saw in WW such an iconic character as Ganondorf, and I'm so happy that I noticed that a lot of people think the same. The latest trailers of Botw 2 showed a particular attention on him, hoping he will be in his human form and why not, whishing a sort of "redemption" or as you said his version as an antihero. So thrilled!
Great video, but I have to disagree with Kotake and Koume being the Godess of the Sand. They just use the temple as their base, but there's no indication that they built it or tried to be worshipped as a godess.
Agreed, and the title ‘Goddess of Sand’ stands for the Goddess of Time
Going further on that: the temple is waaay older than Twinrova, has items meant for the Hero of Time, and it’s the ONLY temple that strictly requires completion in both the past and future
It was totally intentional, down to the ‘hourglass figure’ the statue has
The Goddess of Sand is literally an hourglass in the desert representing both time itself and the Goddess of Time HERself, the final duality
Agreed. I think the theory is long in the past the Gerudo people worshipped the Goddess of Time(Hylia) like all of the other cultures but developed their own representation of her, a.k.a the Goddess of Sand. Koume and Kotake were just the matriarchs of the Gerudo tribe due to their age and magic uses. They stayed in the Spirit Temple and pulled the strings from a far but then raised Ganondorf, taught him dark magic, and declared him the king of their people.
Agree with you
It's always funny to me when people talk about the spirit temple being the last dungeon cuz as a kid I always did shadow temple last
That's the way I did it when I first beat the game. I did Shadow last because I didn't know how to get to it initially and thought the spirit temple was the way to go
I always used to take on the Shadow Temple last. But it does not matter much which of them you choose. I always considered the Shadow Temple as the last temple, because of the order of the Medallions on the start screen.
Because the Nintendo Power Guide goes to the Spirit Temple last, and narratively it *feels* like the last one.
Completing the Shadow Temple first actually makes it easier to beat the Spirit Temple. The Lens of Truth and the Hover Boots make the Spirit Temple a breeze. Granted you can pick whichever you want but the atmosphere and theme of Spirit feels like the intended end.
I thought it was a temple for the blessing of the Gerudo tribe. Until it was taken over by the two sorcerer’s who captured Naburoo and making her communicate through ganondolf that the hyrule was a fault for her kidnapping and to stop link from entering the fortress.
Quick theory: Spirit Temple= Eighth Heroine Statue in BOTW? Good mysterious location, Unknown who or what it represents for sure...
Makes you wonder about Ganondorf if he wasn't raised by Twinrova
My favorite temple in the series
This was a REALLY good video!
Good to see the content that drew me inn to begin with!
Wow it was cool seeing the The real world history next to the fictional history
Great video! And seeing the OoT3D footage makes me still hope for some kind of upscale release on Switch.
Ship of Harkinian is probably what you want.
The legend of Zelda greatness
This was a great video I'm glad were getting some videos that aren't botw we're really running out of things to talk about botw so we might as well revisit past games
You've hit onto something with the duality of the temple and the conflict between the Islamic caliphate and the Byzantines. Particularly since before Constantinople, before the crusades, before Jerusalem fell to Islam the border between Byzantine and the Caliphate in the 700-900s was at Palestine/Jordan where Petra is located. The sun and moon was a good spot. That's cool.
However a couple of assumptions you've made that haven't been established. Firstly we no very little about the war before Link was born. Ganondorfs army clearly consists of Gerudo but also would include mobiles, stalfos, lizalfos etc. We know at the end that he swears fealty to the King. But did he switch sides at the end or was he always an ally of the King on the surface and was manipulating things behind the scenes? Which two sides were there? We simply don't know.
Also I think the goddess of sand being Twinrova is a stretch. You've implied that as their lair is behind the head. But they may simply be priestess' facilitating the worship rather than the object. I think the more plausible theory is that the goddess of sand is Din. Who made the red earth. Ganon desires power more than anything else so it would make sense if he was raised esteeming Din above the others. I think it makes sense that all the gerudo worship Din.
This doesn't mean that Din herself is evil. Just that her worshippers who prize power over everything else are corrupted in that direction. Although the idea that the goddesses aren't benevolent is interesting. They are very infrequently involved in any of the affairs of Hyrule directly. Creation, flooding the world, giving Ganon the Triforce of power (in TP), creating a time-loop (MM). Those are the only times I can think of where the goddesses intervene.
my favorite temple in TLoZ 😊😊👍👍❤❤
I always loved the spirit temple being the last one before ganondorf/ganon. Shadow temple was super dark and bongo bongo was a pain in the ass.
Spirit temple was much lighter, and the boss wasn’t as hard.
How did gannon complete the temple then go back and put the gauntlets back and restore the statue?
Thank you. Great video.
With time travel in mind, could the temple of time be used in BOTW2 to time travel once the master sword has been repaired. A great video and a great dungeon. We need dungeons in BOTW2🤞
Hello there Conrad
Hello there! You are a bold one!
The cover of this video is super cool
Hey do you know how to figure out the secret of the snake statues how does adult Link go to the Future
An outstanding job as allways. You need to start doing tour documentaries and make them dvds
I'm serious your like the Morgan Freeman of yout7be your voice is just so captivating. If you went and toured place that video games got there designs of off to make there worlds and make dads you would be famouse
DVDs?? Uhh do u know what year it is? Haha
funny that no one say that the giant lady temple has the map in the shape of an womb
Interesting, but i think spirit temple is an ancient temple, twinrova only used for her base.
Where did you get these shots?
Do u mean those CG scenes that weren’t from the games? There’s literally the channel name of their creator onscreen while they’re shown lol
I guess I failed to realize that poor women was tortured for 7yrs.
Just wish nintendo would get off there ass remake Oot with today graphics and finish ura zelda put them together and I'd happily give them £100 all day for that
Who is in the photo around time stamp 12:03
They’re Nintendo Staff Members that work on Zelda games
Anakin would hate this temple lol. I dont like sand lol
Where is the evidence that the goddess of the sand is actually Twinrova? He says it at the beginning and then later on later on states it as already established fact without proof, which I'm pretty sure is a fallacy.
I was confused too. But it is a theory, so little proof from Nintendo is ever found to back up most theories.
@@danielschaefer9347 I don't even need it from Nintendo. I once heard an idea that the downfall timeline is just the original child or adult timeline before you change the windmill and while its debatable, he at least explained his rationale.
@@Cyclonus5 It's their game. Their development of the story/timeline. You don't someone's word for someone else's reasons why they did what they did. You go the Primary Source, not Secondary or beyond. That would be like me telling how the serpent was a god of the Zonai and when they left, Twinrova took over that temple and acted as the Serpent god. In order to prove theories or at least back up your premises for your argument, you need to have evidence from a Primary Source. I don't take anyone's word on anything unless they can back it up. You cannot prove to get rid of the fallacy (Incomplete Comparison) just because you give information. There must be evidence for the information, a Primary Source(Nintendo) that backs it up.
@@danielschaefer9347 Right, and what I'm saying is this person declares that Twinrova is the Goddess of the Sand and provides no evidence for it, and then claims it at established later on without evidence.
were the halos censored in any of the remasters
Why would they be??
@@MerkhVision because of religious people getting bent out of shape it happened to ocarina of time a lot
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time needs to be remake with newly unreal engine technology.
Yeah I reckon save the remake or remaster for the next switch console for a more substantial redoing on the next more capability system
Twin rover poisoned ganondolf as they made the temple as a snake that’s why how ganondolf has become so evil those two crummy witches how could they I hope ganondolf can break free somehow or only link and Zelda can break that evil and bring him back to innocence will that be accomplished we shall wait and see in further games if it is possible.
Doas evry Female Sage exept for possebly Impa have some feelings for Link?
hello!
Those damn 'Rabs are offended by literally everything..
I highly doubt any actual Muslims cared about this kinda thing, it reeks of white American Politcal Correctness.
@@MerkhVision from a game made before 911? A game made by Japanese game designers? And white people are the good guys doing the right thing taking it out because they care about other people's feelings? Does any of that make sense to what you said?
How could Koume and Kotake haunt Link since they have halos over them and get sent to heaven for a possible judgment?
Nintendo should have just kept the original Gerudo symbols. But then again I'm not a religious zealot and never saw it as Christianity against Islam....
Yeah I don’t think any Muslims actually care or are offended by it, I sure wasn’t. I thought it was cool.
Lol. Unrivaled pacing. Hahahaahha
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