I'm 70 and am not discussing these topics in my circle however it's all over my YT channels. My thoughts? Nothing new except the label 'deconstruct '. I've never heard rap that didn't sound worldly, look at me, glorify me, I'll give this guy a chance. My favorite preacher was born in the Armenian quarter of Jerusalem, Dr Samuel Kojoglanian. On YT, FB, INST and some tv channels.
Sorry, but you are totally deceived. Sam Kojoglanian has nothing to do with the Christianity of the Bible. He is just another 100% fake christian deceiving the blind, lost, and the deceived. Repent!
The question is not if you can trust the bible. The real question is can you trust the institution, pastor or yourself interpreting the bible. There are over 40,000 protestant denominations because they all have different interpretations of the bible. You need the one true church that Jesus started that put the bible together.
Hmmm to some extent, you are right...but the problem of this argument of interpretations is that often times, the wrong interpretation is flat put wrong and then you can have trueish but inadequate interpretations. And by interpretations, I mean understanding. By design, as God will have it, we all will have different levels of understanding and in a way interpreting the Bible and the truth of God, because we all will come with so many different experiences and backgrounds with God. This is why we are asked to come together to comprehend all the immeasurable dimensions of God. And this is why having adequate knowledge and discernment is needed.
Yet they all agree on the essentials of the faith. Even non Protestant agree. What were deconstructing isn’t non essentials. Folks are questioning what marriage is, if the Bible is authoritative, etc.
@@RuslanKD They don't all agree on essentials of the faith. There are some Christian churches that deny the Trinity, that Jesus is divine, if baptism is salvific and etc. A fractured Christian church creates disunity and confusion among the believers. When you speak about Orthodox Christianity that usually refers to what early Christians believed and practiced in the first 600 years of the early church. I agree with you that the farther you are away from Orthodoxy the father you are from the truth. For 1000 years you had one Christian church, then the eastern orthodox and Catholics divided, then in 1500 to modern day you add another 40,000 Christian denominations. The splintering of the Christian church also creates many doctrines and heresies. Many have been misled and misinformed about the origins of Christianity. The flock of sheep without a shepherd will scatter and devoured by wolves. Many have apostatized from the faith because they are confused by so many false teachers and false doctrines. The Reformation gave rise to individualism which gave rise to relativism. Now we all have our own truth, hence the 40,000. When people don't believe in objective truth and only believe our own interpretations of truth you get what we have now; chaos.
@@mfjh505True but that's because people that think like that or are even a bit confused have never had a true encounter with the Holy Spirit and all they know is religion without having any true intimate relationship with Jesus Christ.
@destroyingfear777 In reality there are many Christians who have a personal relationship with Jesus and still believe in gay marriage, premarital sex, and abortions. You can be theologically incorrect and still love Jesus. You can't reduce your relationship with Christ with just a feeling and your senses.
Critical and literal thinking are dangerous! You should absolutely accept information at face value as long as it reinforces your existing beliefs 😁👍🏾👍🏾
From an orthodox perspective, what HAS the church gotten wrong? I am not talking about the denomination Orthodox. I’m not talking about the Roman Catholic Church (I think they went off the rails with the idea that the Pope can speak for God, that Mary is on nearly equal footing as Jesus, that you can communicate with saints who have died, that you can buy your way out of purgatory, that purgatory exists, that the individual church should be organized at a local level with elders and deacons not bishops cardinals and popes, that churches should hold each other accountable in a confederacy without anyone being over the other with the scripture being the primary form of accountability, that elders (priests) can but do not have to marry, among other things. I do think that the Catholic Church is wrong on these things, many/most Protestants also do similar things and worse (female elders, homosexuality, etc). I think that the church seems to have a half life. The Catholic Church crossed a rubicon first with the great schism (which one is the TRUE church organization the orthodox or the Catholics?) and second with the reformation, but ever since, the church is compromised faster and faster.
Yikes. A lot of deconstruction is about justifying poor choices, but it is more so about getting to the root of the bible, wading through the mysticism and centuries of poor biblical scholarship.
I’m very concerned about this, it really didn’t do much more than speak on platitudes which is the exact problem. The Bible is 100% the literal word of God and the only distinction worth making is that you must understand the context, who is speaking and who they are speaking too, strive to understand metaphorical messages in the context and usage of the time period it’s written, also the alternate meanings of the words in English translation etc to fully understand
Jesus is the WORD of God. The Bible is a collection of writings inspired by God and are the only infallible authority, and the word of God in a different sense. But not every aspect of the Bible is to us and for us. For example, a lot of job is his dumb friends arguing with him. Sometimes for chapters. If someone opens the Bible as the “literal word of God” and flips to a random page of jobs friends saying some foolishness, that’s how people get in trouble. All the accounts in the Bible are prescriptive. There’s immorality recorded. Be careful with this fundamentalist thinking.
Jesus said on multiple occasions that the Old Testament (or just the Biblical teachings that existed at his time) were true, Matt 5:17 for example “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.” As to your second point about Job, obviously! Every word in the Bible is not God speaking you must discern that. I mean the idea of reading a book and ignoring who is talking and to whom etc is unreal to me. There are all kinds of perspectives in the Bible that should be seen and understood as such and I agree that the majority of people absolutely don’t do that. That being said there are many folks that look at the parting of the Red Sea or Noah’s flood and try to say that those things are some kind of metaphor and didn’t actually happen, when there is no evidence of that. There is however things inside say the story of the arc that maybe can be understood differently such as - did God flood the entire earth? Or did he just flood the known earth of the area that had the Nephilim. Phrases like destroy the entire earth were often used at the time much as how we describe things today when you say something I hate everything. Obviously I don’t mean I literally hate everything single thing in existence, etc.
Jesus is BOTH metaphorical and literal at the same time, that’s not contradictory To call it “deconstruction” feels like you’re bypassing what you refuse to face Y’all gotta quit ducking the suggestion of getting Aaron Abke on Y’all clearly live lives of good faith, y’all clearly bear fruit, and represent Christ well, but I say with love, you still unconsciously adhere to the egoism of the religion, and have yet to realize the Self, as Christ has
Man Ruslan never ceases to amaze me. Definitely a voice for our generation.
Ruslan is not a Christian. You have been deceived.
Thank you both and God bless you, brothers! 🙏🏿🫡
These guys may be your brothers, but they are not brothers to Christians.
Orthodox Christians are making a comeback ☦️
I'm 70 and am not discussing these topics in my circle however it's all over my YT channels. My thoughts? Nothing new except the label 'deconstruct '. I've never heard rap that didn't sound worldly, look at me, glorify me, I'll give this guy a chance. My favorite preacher was born in the Armenian quarter of Jerusalem, Dr Samuel Kojoglanian. On YT, FB, INST and some tv channels.
Sorry, but you are totally deceived. Sam Kojoglanian has nothing to do with the Christianity of the Bible. He is just another 100% fake christian deceiving the blind, lost, and the deceived. Repent!
This was great and gave me some good insight on how we should look at the Bible.
Amen, amen
Repent, and repent!
The question is not if you can trust the bible. The real question is can you trust the institution, pastor or yourself interpreting the bible. There are over 40,000 protestant denominations because they all have different interpretations of the bible. You need the one true church that Jesus started that put the bible together.
Hmmm to some extent, you are right...but the problem of this argument of interpretations is that often times, the wrong interpretation is flat put wrong and then you can have trueish but inadequate interpretations. And by interpretations, I mean understanding.
By design, as God will have it, we all will have different levels of understanding and in a way interpreting the Bible and the truth of God, because we all will come with so many different experiences and backgrounds with God. This is why we are asked to come together to comprehend all the immeasurable dimensions of God. And this is why having adequate knowledge and discernment is needed.
Yet they all agree on the essentials of the faith. Even non Protestant agree. What were deconstructing isn’t non essentials. Folks are questioning what marriage is, if the Bible is authoritative, etc.
@@RuslanKD They don't all agree on essentials of the faith. There are some Christian churches that deny the Trinity, that Jesus is divine, if baptism is salvific and etc. A fractured Christian church creates disunity and confusion among the believers. When you speak about Orthodox Christianity that usually refers to what early Christians believed and practiced in the first 600 years of the early church. I agree with you that the farther you are away from Orthodoxy the father you are from the truth. For 1000 years you had one Christian church, then the eastern orthodox and Catholics divided, then in 1500 to modern day you add another 40,000 Christian denominations. The splintering of the Christian church also creates many doctrines and heresies. Many have been misled and misinformed about the origins of Christianity. The flock of sheep without a shepherd will scatter and devoured by wolves. Many have apostatized from the faith because they are confused by so many false teachers and false doctrines. The Reformation gave rise to individualism which gave rise to relativism. Now we all have our own truth, hence the 40,000. When people don't believe in objective truth and only believe our own interpretations of truth you get what we have now; chaos.
@@mfjh505True but that's because people that think like that or are even a bit confused have never had a true encounter with the Holy Spirit and all they know is religion without having any true intimate relationship with Jesus Christ.
@destroyingfear777 In reality there are many Christians who have a personal relationship with Jesus and still believe in gay marriage, premarital sex, and abortions. You can be theologically incorrect and still love Jesus. You can't reduce your relationship with Christ with just a feeling and your senses.
So gangster how bro distills ideas
Critical and literal thinking are dangerous! You should absolutely accept information at face value as long as it reinforces your existing beliefs 😁👍🏾👍🏾
Pot meet kettle.
@@tyb6770 😢
From an orthodox perspective, what HAS the church gotten wrong?
I am not talking about the denomination Orthodox.
I’m not talking about the Roman Catholic Church (I think they went off the rails with the idea that the Pope can speak for God, that Mary is on nearly equal footing as Jesus, that you can communicate with saints who have died, that you can buy your way out of purgatory, that purgatory exists, that the individual church should be organized at a local level with elders and deacons not bishops cardinals and popes, that churches should hold each other accountable in a confederacy without anyone being over the other with the scripture being the primary form of accountability, that elders (priests) can but do not have to marry, among other things. I do think that the Catholic Church is wrong on these things, many/most Protestants also do similar things and worse (female elders, homosexuality, etc). I think that the church seems to have a half life. The Catholic Church crossed a rubicon first with the great schism (which one is the TRUE church organization the orthodox or the Catholics?) and second with the reformation, but ever since, the church is compromised faster and faster.
Amen; AYea and Allelujah.
Yikes. A lot of deconstruction is about justifying poor choices, but it is more so about getting to the root of the bible, wading through the mysticism and centuries of poor biblical scholarship.
Who was it!!!
Wow. I wonder who this songwriter is.
I’m very concerned about this, it really didn’t do much more than speak on platitudes which is the exact problem. The Bible is 100% the literal word of God and the only distinction worth making is that you must understand the context, who is speaking and who they are speaking too, strive to understand metaphorical messages in the context and usage of the time period it’s written, also the alternate meanings of the words in English translation etc to fully understand
Jesus is the WORD of God. The Bible is a collection of writings inspired by God and are the only infallible authority, and the word of God in a different sense. But not every aspect of the Bible is to us and for us. For example, a lot of job is his dumb friends arguing with him. Sometimes for chapters. If someone opens the Bible as the “literal word of God” and flips to a random page of jobs friends saying some foolishness, that’s how people get in trouble. All the accounts in the Bible are prescriptive. There’s immorality recorded. Be careful with this fundamentalist thinking.
Jesus said on multiple occasions that the Old Testament (or just the Biblical teachings that existed at his time) were true, Matt 5:17 for example “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.” As to your second point about Job, obviously! Every word in the Bible is not God speaking you must discern that. I mean the idea of reading a book and ignoring who is talking and to whom etc is unreal to me. There are all kinds of perspectives in the Bible that should be seen and understood as such and I agree that the majority of people absolutely don’t do that. That being said there are many folks that look at the parting of the Red Sea or Noah’s flood and try to say that those things are some kind of metaphor and didn’t actually happen, when there is no evidence of that. There is however things inside say the story of the arc that maybe can be understood differently such as - did God flood the entire earth? Or did he just flood the known earth of the area that had the Nephilim. Phrases like destroy the entire earth were often used at the time much as how we describe things today when you say something I hate everything. Obviously I don’t mean I literally hate everything single thing in existence, etc.
Jesus is BOTH metaphorical and literal at the same time, that’s not contradictory
To call it “deconstruction” feels like you’re bypassing what you refuse to face
Y’all gotta quit ducking the suggestion of getting Aaron Abke on
Y’all clearly live lives of good faith, y’all clearly bear fruit, and represent Christ well, but
I say with love, you still unconsciously adhere to the egoism of the religion, and have yet to realize the Self, as Christ has