I'm thinking of Waxing my chain so I would like to get a new chain as it would be easier to clean it. I'm not going for the small marginal gains of waxing. I'm going to longevity and cleanliness of that chain and use the current chain for winter. right now I have the KMC X11
There was a chain wear article on Pinkbike a while back and I think it found that SRAM chains lasted the longest. No Surprise there, SRAM bought Sachs Chains way back when, and they were the best chains then too. I have been running 11spd Shimano drivetrains since its release, but running 11spd Sram or KMC chains. Both of which seem to outlast the Shimano chain while not loosing any shifting performance. The gold definitely looks money, and I also like the look of the black hard coated chains, but really its about functionality for that component. Keep it coming guys, spring is around the corner! This year we ride Angel Fire😁
We are stoked to hit angel fire! There will definitely be videos of us dying there! While it is true that function is the most important part of the drivetrain, having it look nice is a super bonus!
What type of chain he has? I was assuming a bike chain but now I'm wondering if he has a hidden dungeon for prisoners. 😮 Awww, Kevin probably hasn't called in a long time. Have either of you called him?! See if he's alive?! Ooooh, pretty new chain. It'll get dirty in one ride. That's a lot of chains and 💲💲💲. Snap versus wear out. Interesting. Haha, judgement! Your chain checker looks like the shelf holders I had in college. 2000 miles on a chain sound... good, right? I don't even know how many miles my tires take. 😶 Tip: When showing a product, don't shake it up and down, back and forth. Can't read the bottle. LOL. Greg took Bryan's chain. Love it.
On my Raleigh Motus Grand Tour 2021 electric bycycle, I got over 3000 (three thousand) miles on the original chain the bike came with. I ride every day on my commute to work in London UK. Then the chain needed replacing as it was jumping out of the back casete as I would push on the pedals. The new chain and casete the bycycle mechanic at Milton Keynes Rutland cycling, put in my bike only lasted two months, instead of 12 months, which was the case with the original chain. So now I wanna take this matter in my own hands and put a good quality chain in my bike!
The cassette was worn out by the 1st chain, that's why the 2nd had a shorter life. You need to use these rules to measure chain wear, they are a good indicator, although the chain might have other issues than length after a while... Replace you cassette when buying the next chain.
I ride 3 SRAM chains and swap them every 500km. They are those really cheap 11sp no coating ones and they are perfectly fine after 4000km. Been swapping every 1k for first round but it should be more often I think. I consider myself quite explosive but I try to slow down and not rush everywhere. I also pedal a lot, so I can't see how you can wear chains so fast. You need to investigate
Hey Polish Guy! This is Greg writing this reply. Bryan rides at a pro level in XC. He puts down a lot more power than most people and, like he said, he pedals more than most people, too. At his level of skill, power output and many hours of physical punishment with no breaks between, he will be wearing chains down faster than almost anyone. The fact that he got 2,000 miles out of the XO1 is truly astounding given the abuse he put it through. Your three chain method sounds awesome! Sounds like it works well for you!
@@ShiftMTB Not my method, just read about it, many people use it :-) And it's mainly for saving drivetrain, because once the chain is at 0,75% wear, the drivetrain is too, so then new chain wears faster as well. So the idea is to slow down the drivetrain wearing process by extending the time, before the chain gets to that 0,75% wear point. So in practice if with normal 1 chain usage, you need to replace the drivetrain every 2-3 chains, then with 3 chain usage you multiply this and so you multiply the mileage of your drivetrain too. Unless cassette looses teeth or bigger rings crack and this forces replacement. So it's pretty easy to get 2 cycles of 3 chains out of 1 drivetrain, so it's the same as if your drivetrain lasted 6 chains.
Those kind of tools for measuring chain dont work in sram chains. Sram uses a bigger roller. The right way is to measure the stretch in the pins, in sram chains. There is a guy who tested a lot of chains and lubes in a more cientific oriented way, the data is in "Zero Friction Cycling"
@@ShiftMTB it ended up break three times on a 40 mile round trip. Luckily I take spares. It was an old bike, so can't complain. Chain had cracks in it. As long as you have spares. I'll also say, I'm carrying weights. At least 40 pounds
I'm thinking of Waxing my chain so I would like to get a new chain as it would be easier to clean it. I'm not going for the small marginal gains of waxing. I'm going to longevity and cleanliness of that chain and use the current chain for winter. right now I have the KMC X11
Some people have used wax with good results. Let us know how it works for you!👍
I have been using KMC chains for over 10 years now . My current one is the KMC X11SL DLC aeound $90 so far so good at around 750 miles
Sounds like an awesome chain!
I have been looking for a reason why to buy a SRAM x01 or a KMC e11 chain. YOu have given me the answer. thank so much!
There was a chain wear article on Pinkbike a while back and I think it found that SRAM chains lasted the longest. No Surprise there, SRAM bought Sachs Chains way back when, and they were the best chains then too. I have been running 11spd Shimano drivetrains since its release, but running 11spd Sram or KMC chains. Both of which seem to outlast the Shimano chain while not loosing any shifting performance. The gold definitely looks money, and I also like the look of the black hard coated chains, but really its about functionality for that component. Keep it coming guys, spring is around the corner! This year we ride Angel Fire😁
We are stoked to hit angel fire! There will definitely be videos of us dying there! While it is true that function is the most important part of the drivetrain, having it look nice is a super bonus!
Very true. Enduro riders snap their chains more often than wearing them out.
They put a lot of sudden power through their drive trains, that's for sure! Some day I'll be that powerful, too 🙂
I should probably check my chain.
Yeah you better!
Pc X01 or just x01?
Just snapped my chain
What type of chain he has? I was assuming a bike chain but now I'm wondering if he has a hidden dungeon for prisoners. 😮
Awww, Kevin probably hasn't called in a long time. Have either of you called him?! See if he's alive?!
Ooooh, pretty new chain. It'll get dirty in one ride. That's a lot of chains and 💲💲💲.
Snap versus wear out. Interesting. Haha, judgement!
Your chain checker looks like the shelf holders I had in college. 2000 miles on a chain sound... good, right? I don't even know how many miles my tires take. 😶
Tip: When showing a product, don't shake it up and down, back and forth. Can't read the bottle.
LOL. Greg took Bryan's chain. Love it.
As always, your comments are gold!
On my Raleigh Motus Grand Tour 2021 electric bycycle, I got over 3000 (three thousand) miles on the original chain the bike came with. I ride every day on my commute to work in London UK.
Then the chain needed replacing as it was jumping out of the back casete as I would push on the pedals.
The new chain and casete the bycycle mechanic at Milton Keynes Rutland cycling, put in my bike only lasted two months, instead of 12 months, which was the case with the original chain.
So now I wanna take this matter in my own hands and put a good quality chain in my bike!
The cassette was worn out by the 1st chain, that's why the 2nd had a shorter life.
You need to use these rules to measure chain wear, they are a good indicator, although the chain might have other issues than length after a while...
Replace you cassette when buying the next chain.
@DR_1_1 - The cassette was replaced together with the chain.
I ride 3 SRAM chains and swap them every 500km. They are those really cheap 11sp no coating ones and they are perfectly fine after 4000km. Been swapping every 1k for first round but it should be more often I think. I consider myself quite explosive but I try to slow down and not rush everywhere. I also pedal a lot, so I can't see how you can wear chains so fast. You need to investigate
Hey Polish Guy! This is Greg writing this reply. Bryan rides at a pro level in XC. He puts down a lot more power than most people and, like he said, he pedals more than most people, too. At his level of skill, power output and many hours of physical punishment with no breaks between, he will be wearing chains down faster than almost anyone. The fact that he got 2,000 miles out of the XO1 is truly astounding given the abuse he put it through. Your three chain method sounds awesome! Sounds like it works well for you!
@@ShiftMTB Not my method, just read about it, many people use it :-) And it's mainly for saving drivetrain, because once the chain is at 0,75% wear, the drivetrain is too, so then new chain wears faster as well. So the idea is to slow down the drivetrain wearing process by extending the time, before the chain gets to that 0,75% wear point. So in practice if with normal 1 chain usage, you need to replace the drivetrain every 2-3 chains, then with 3 chain usage you multiply this and so you multiply the mileage of your drivetrain too. Unless cassette looses teeth or bigger rings crack and this forces replacement. So it's pretty easy to get 2 cycles of 3 chains out of 1 drivetrain, so it's the same as if your drivetrain lasted 6 chains.
@@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 sounds brilliant!
Is UFO chains any good?
That's excellent video.
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Cool super indestructible bike chain I'm going on eBay now
Let us know how you like it!
Those kind of tools for measuring chain dont work in sram chains. Sram uses a bigger roller. The right way is to measure the stretch in the pins, in sram chains. There is a guy who tested a lot of chains and lubes in a more cientific oriented way, the data is in "Zero Friction Cycling"
Thanks for the info👍
If you want your chain and drivetrain to last, stop using lube and start immersive waxing.
My chain just broke twice in 3 hours. I need a new chain
Sorry to hear that. Did you get a new one?
@@ShiftMTB I did. I got a gold one because I'm a baby
@@ShiftMTB I road 40 miles, on a new bike. And it failed. To be expected.
And now I have a gold chain. For no reason. Lol
@@ShiftMTB it ended up break three times on a 40 mile round trip. Luckily I take spares. It was an old bike, so can't complain.
Chain had cracks in it. As long as you have spares. I'll also say, I'm carrying weights. At least 40 pounds
Sram is the best from everything i found.
Super 👍
xx1 all the way