Science Today: Simulating Solar System Formation | California Academy of Sciences
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Our spacecraft have visited rocky asteroids and icy comets to collect invaluable data about the origin of the Solar System. And the orbits of Kuiper Belt Objects-tiny worlds far from the Sun-reveal that our planetary system had a terrifically violent past, when giant planets changed their orbits, wreaking gravitational havoc. Visualizations from the Academy’s award-winning planetarium show Incoming! tell the story of this ancient interplanetary transformation.
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That’s the best simulation I’ve seen thus far on protoplanetary disks and planet formation.
I understand how this very brief video and description of our current understanding of the solar system can easily seem like speculation from out of nowhere to many people. Every bit of proclamation in this video has behind it a vast amount of accumulated data, data analysis, hypothesis testing, prediction, refinement, error correction, peer review, and painstaking work from many generations of countless scientists spanning centuries, and then yet more data from modern instrumentation that is among the most magnificent ever made by humans. I would only ask that, if there's genuine interest, people look into learning about _how_ we know what we know, before dismissing proclamations that don't mesh with their intuitions. The how is not included here, but it's very important and fascinating on its own.
This is so beautiful.
How are things like this not considered as art??
it is to you. ;)
Because its science dimwit
As an expression of human creativity this simulation in reality is the greatest masterpiece of all time.
Scientists are more interested in data it provides and what conclusions we can take from it. It does look pretty but science is more important, but if some artists wants to depict formation of planetary system then sure go ahead
Because to consider art is to imply mind, intent, will and etc lol. Scientists don't want to go there for some reason
Please don't be discouraged by fools below, they actively seek out knowledge to discredit to make their cause look more than it actually is. They are short minded idiots that are willingly blinded by there own blind faith
no such thing as discouragx or fool or not, do, be, think any nmw and any be perfect
I think you are having a blind faith. There is no scientific established as truth what you watch here just one of the scientifically hypothesis out there....here is something ruclips.net/video/WxvvA7KGDzQ/видео.html
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Wow, that's a lots of numerical analysis and codes
It is fascinating what time can create
Watching this to see if it'll work in one of my lessons... and I see that one of the simulations is by one of my friends from grad school!
Thank you for creating and posting this, it was amazing to behold and understand.
I'm confused how the planetesimals appear to spinning the oppisite of how our planet spins today. In my own mind, I'm having trouble seeing how planets form in a clockwise spin (like i see it in my head) vs our counter-clockwise spin we have today.
simply outstanding to watch
Can we use this simulation in our channel for educational purposes?
Beautiful. Thank you.
i agree looking at how planets orbit the sun and somtimes you might not know that some were a bit tilted
Beautiful! Thank you for making this! Liked and subscribed!
Завораживает, удивляет, поражает, восхищает... И всё это очень слабо сказано. Эмоции запредельные. Похоже, что вселенная сказочнее, чем это может представить кто-либо . Как такая красота возможна? Откуда возникла такая логика рождения и развития окружающей нас супер вселенной.
Effing excellent animation, exactly what I wanted to see😍
What is known about Jupiter?
• The winds on Jupiter can be as fast as 540 km/h.
• Clouds are stretched into bands that run from east
to west.
• Storms appear as white or red spots between cloud bands. The best known of these storms is the Great Red Spot.
BEAUTIFUL!!!
Thank you! It's amazing.
I saw this in the Planetarium on Labor Day last week and it was amazing to see these images in such an incredible setting. Have to say I prefer the George Takei narrated version.
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Excelente. Sempre quis ver assim.
wow. that was amazing! where can i see more of these?
Awesome, thank you for this video, its so great
Awesome sim thanks however can you add an initial dust cloud process showing it collapse into the disc to show/answer to people how we get a disc that becomes the solar system. Probably best as a separate video. Thankyou.
Who is the narrator? I feel like I recognize the voice, but I can't quite place it.
I'm noticing that these documentaries tend to always gloss over the "dust" part when talking about the "dust and gas" of the protoplanetary disk of the pre-solar system. If that "dust" was anything more than just hydrogen and helium, which it much has been, than that means our entire solar system formed from the remnants of supernovae.
2:30 "We are going into overdrive!"
Nice.
wow stunning footage!
One correction that I’m sure someone more qualified can elaborate on is that the initial accretion from the cloud and pebbles wasn’t entirely from gravity but static electric forces. Gravity alone would not have been fast enough to cause it.
Oh, thanks for fun fact! Did not know that electromagnetic force can create condensed bodies in small scales in dense region! :O
THE TOP DOWN AND BALANCED UNDERSTANDING OF TIME AND SPACE, AS E=MC2 IS CLEARLY PROVEN TO BE F=MA ON BALANCE:
Time wasn't “created”. INSTANTANEITY is fundamental to what is the FULL and proper UNDERSTANDING of physics/physical experience, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Time is necessarily possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE. E=MC2 IS F=ma ON BALANCE. Accordingly, time DILATION ULTIMATELY proves ON BALANCE that ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. E=MC2 IS F=ma. This NECESSARILY represents, INVOLVES, AND DESCRIBES what is possible/potential AND actual IN BALANCE, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Gravity is ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy.
Consider the man who IS standing on what is THE EARTH/ground. Touch AND feeling BLEND, AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity; AS gravity AND ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy are linked AND BALANCED opposites; AS E=MC2 IS F=ma; AS gravity/acceleration involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE. (THE EYE is the body ON BALANCE. Consider what is balanced BODILY/VISUAL EXPERIENCE.) The sky is BLUE, AND what is THE EARTH is ALSO BLUE. SO, objects AND MEN fall at the SAME RATE (neglecting air resistance, of course); AS E=MC2 IS F=ma; AS “mass”/ENERGY involves BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE consistent with/as what is BALANCED electromagnetic/gravitational force/ENERGY; AS gravity IS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. It all CLEARLY makes perfect sense. I have explained why the rotation of WHAT IS THE MOON matches it's revolution. BALANCE and completeness go hand in hand. Carefully consider what is THE SUN. (Very importantly, outer “space” involves full inertia; AND it is fully invisible AND black.) The stars AND PLANETS are POINTS in the night sky. Again, time dilation ULTIMATELY proves ON BALANCE that E=MC2 is F=ma; AS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy is gravity. Therefore, BALANCED inertia/INERTIAL RESISTANCE is fundamental. Gravity IS ELECTROMAGNETISM/energy. E=MC2 is CLEARLY F=ma ON BALANCE !!!
By Frank DiMeglio
@@frankdimeglio8216 Electromagnetism is gravity??? LOL Electromagnetism and gravity are both names for what we don't know or understand but we can use math to interpret. Energy and force are both abstract idea and we have a long path in quantum fields and mechanics before trying to make statements.
@@tonmaster189 dont give attention to the crank
YOU ALL WANTED PROOF look at how MECHANIC nature looks, in FAST FORWARD.
[you can clearly see a pulse happening]
2:30 you can see the pulse of nature, "my em pulse drive system" omg this is FANTASTIC~
that galaxy looked like a decaying atom
WOW
Realy I like this video so much its so interestyng
Narrator sounds just like The Volgun.
Amazing simulation!
Beware the comment section. Seems like there may be a few *creationists* down there.
no more 5st got boted
@SciFyerGaming yea like ppl who say there are more than 2 sexes
Thnx
@@lesteroliva75 found the science denier
@@lesteroliva75 Sex and gender aren't the same thing. Nobody said there are more than 2 sexes. And please don't bring transphobia to a scientific video on planetary orbits.
Anyways, great vid
2:30 you can see the pulse of my drive system omg this is FANTASTIC thank your for posting
MY DRIVE~ IT CAN BE REAL.... OMFG i'm literally in tears.
the world could have had starships, and i knew it 30 yeats ago...
Superb, good information.
But how did the disc form? Was it a process of macro gravity, or elimination from chaotic collisions from objects that were orbiting in a different plane or in the opposite direction?
kilroy987
Planetary discs form when rotating nebulas compress.
There is a net angular momentum in the cloud, during collapse all angular momentum gets combined leading to a plane rotating in the direction of the net angular momentum.
If the whole nebula is rotating in cylindrical fashion, yes, it makes sense that the whole thing would eventually collapse along the axis of rotation, since the rotation keeps the particles away from the center, and the layers being stationary relative to each other would cause them to collapse to each other. But for a nebula to rotate in cylindrical fashion, there would have to be a line of heavy material in the center serving as the gravitational anchor. If there is only a single body at the center keeping the nebula together, that doesn't encourage cylindrical rotation. It encourages orbits on many axes - and in that case I assume eventually a disc is what's left after everything else collided. A problem I have with the nebula rotating like a cylinder is that the heavy central line of material would collapse a lot faster into a single body than the rest of the nebula would, causing everything else to orbit more chaotically. It's interesting discussion, but in the end I still wonder how the nebula was rotating in the first place, and how the central line of matter keeping it together formed. If the whole thing was stationary, it would have just collapsed on itself.
kilroy987
Actually we can observe similar phenomenon of solar system formations in far away nebulas called stellar nurseries.
So you can actually actively observe the formation happening.
I'd like to see a simulation of our disc formation someday.
kilroy987 I hope someone does that...
short and ignorant comment about this being wrong and fake without explaining how or why!
Am i right that there is a possibility that when our star calms down, its spin is slower and should start attracting the planets?
Why should a star's spin affect the way it attracts planets? That happens through the interaction of gravity, which only depends on how heavy the star is. So no, you are wrong.
I would like to use a short clip from this animation for educational purposes and will give credit. Please, tell me if this is fine with you.
Reminds me of electrons emitting photons
Hey! It looks like universe sandbox!
Im confused, once i heard that massive objects head for the center while the less massive matter were pushed aside. If this is so 🤔why is it that our sun is powered by lighter elements than whats in planets? I mean wouldn't it make sense that there are heavier elements at the center of the solar system compared to say Pluto? Why do stars fuse lighter elements at the center while planets carry the heavier elements? Does hydrogen clump together faster and easier than say heavy metals
Hydrogen and helium are far more prevalent in the formation dust than heavier elements but rest assured there are far more heavy elements in the sun than in the rest of the solar system
Lighter element maybe but the sun contains 99.8% the mass of the solar system, and as such, the sun's core has a density around 160 g/cm^3. For comparison, earths crust has a density around 2.6 g/cm^3, and the earth's core is about 13 g/cm^3. Now the AVERAGE density of the sun is 1.41 g/cm^3 which, for comparison is ≈ 0.94 times average density of human bone.
How can this simulation be accurate considering chaos and Heisenberg uncertainty?
Then what's all the fuss about the 3 body problem or whatever they call it?
My god. I came here for a cool video about the formation of the solar system only for the comments to be full of completely ignorant people. Thumbs up to those who responded to their horseshit.
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*after the sun ignited* ... But how did THAT happen?
Soundtrack anyone ??
Pardon my ignorance, I may have missed a lesson in astrophysics, but why are galaxies (and their smaller parts, such as our solar system) apparently FLAT as discs, rather than round like balls?
Because the space is 3-dimensional, and would make more sense if they were ball-shaped, since the matter in the Universe can move in all directions and axes and is not restricted to only two.
My limited knowledge would suggest that the galaxies are elongated and thus flattened along the lines of their "expulsion" from the center of our Universe; the expansion and their continuous movement in the expanding direction of the Universe leads to the matter inside them concentrating along these lines as if by a centrifugal force.
My description may be lacking, but I hope you get the idea.
Exchange of angular Momentum.
Here’s a concise video on the topic: ruclips.net/video/tmNXKqeUtJM/видео.html
Basically, conservation of angular momentum means a 3D cloud of particles will always (except in impossibly precise scenarios) have *some* overall plane of rotation. Motion along that plane isn’t canceled out by random collisions because it *can’t* be, thanks to that conservation law. But motion perpendicular to that plane? Nothing keeping that from canceling out. So, over time, it does, and flatness results.
Hello
Gravity tossing LOL
Can I download JavaScript code for this simulation ? :)
It was done in HTML
It was pure CSS animation.
Anyone please tell me how to create these simulations?
You’d no doubt need a supercomputer
Okay😢
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How does electromagnetism enter into solar system formation ? Sun emits charged particles the planets have magnetic fields and auroras, comets AND asteroids have ion tails. This needs to be accounted for.
all elementary particles have a net electric charge infinitum it never goes away....how do you not know that already
so when can we get our hands on some of these gas/gravity simulations at home?
@rent a shill i know. It will be a few years. Its VERY hard to find something similar. universe sandbox is the closest ive come, but there was a gas and gravity simulator about 8 years ago that wasnt half bad.
If i could form stars and planets with gas in a simulation, i'd really love that. =/
I saw a while back that a developer of universe sandbox² was doing something with smoothed particle hydrodynamics, but I don't know if they are continuing to do so.
Who's the narrator? Sounds familiar
How about the 5th gas giant??
Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune
Now we know the truth that solar system also orbiting the galaxy
有繁體中文版嗎?看不懂怎麼辦?翻譯軟體用不上。
Human history is 1/10 second somewhere near the end
Your model is wrong , solar system moving , is a vortex...
no one ever talks about sagittarius a
And...what about Origin of Tess ? ...
How can gravity-alone cause those small rocks in the asteroid belt to accrete into solid rocks? Also, they don't seem to be very icy - mostly rocky - SOLID rock. How can gravity do that at 1/100th of a G?
There you to be a lot more dust now most of it is in planets or moons
Someone in the comment says that electromagnetic force acts as glue that builds planet seeds
@@a.u.positronh3665 OK - but we're told - repeatedly that GRAVITY is the main force in the universe, not electromagnetism.
@@Jollyprez Oh actually gravity is absolutely the main force at size over stellar body systems, electromagnetism at stars and molecular structures, and even atomic level. Weak force is most useless force that is needed to hold electrons (not a major force at anywhere except making us reflect light), and strong nuclear force is major force at atom core level or below. I think you know gravity is the main force of universe because it is the most common forces that understandable science articles with no complicated equations mentions. And "GRAVITY is the main force in the universe" is kinda accurate, because on "universal" scale, gravity does half of almost everything (rest almost half is electromagnetic force, because light is electromagnetic force).
@@Jollyprez When the dust is small, electromagnetic forces can cause it to attract. Gravity as well, but at the microscopic level, EM forces are stronger. However, once the ball has enough mass, gravity will be the major player in collecting material for the remainder of its existence.
O cara olha uma máquina de algodão doce faz um vídeo dizendo que os planetas foram criados assim , se fosse uma pessoa qualquer virava chacota, más como é um americano todo mundo paga pau.
Videos finished
1963 was a very cold winter while Jupiter was at relatively close range from the earth, is there a connection?
The planets do not exert that type of influence over large distances.
If you're in the US, there is a large chance this was caused by any 60s nuclear test induced aerosol formation, which increases the reflectivity of the atmosphere and thus causes a cooling effect, among other more mundane reasons.
Oke, so the other planets cannot change the elliptical orbit of earth in the slightest? Stretch it out of let it wobble more? Is a year always exactly the same amount of time?
They say that the sun wobbles under influence of Jupiter, and the earth wont do that, but why?
@@RM-lu1kx all the planets cause the sun to wobble at the same time, but Jupiter is still over 3x heavier than all other planets combined, is not entirely false that MOST of the Sun's wobble is caused by Jupiter alone.
@@RM-lu1kx The planet's do exert forces on one another at all times, but over vast distances and large but not geological stretches of time these changes are rather minor. The orbit of Mercury for example precesses at a faster rate than any other orbit due Gravitational forces and relativistic effects.
The Sun and Moon are the only bodies besides Jupiter that influence Earth significantly. The Sun because is absolutely massive despite the distance and the Moon because is very close to Earth, that's why we have tides for example.
But a less dramatic effect in human timescales is the precession of Earth's orbit and its axial tilt. Over vast stretches of time, like in the scale of hundreds of thousands of years the Earth's orbit processes, offsetting the constellations shown in each season over time, if for example the Aquarius constellation always show in March today, in a few dozen thousand years it will be Capricorn, and so on until it comes round.
In a faster rate, one that humans have long discovered is the axial precession of Earth. In periods of 28 thousand or so years, this changes which way the axis of the Earth points in a certain time of the Year, it also determines the South and North stars, currently there is only a North star, Polaris, 3700 years ago it used to be Kochab. This axial wobble of the Earth occurs because Earth is not a perfect homogeneous sphere, the tidal bulges in its crust created by the sun and Moon exert a minor torque that over this given period turn the Earth full circle.
What's with all the creationists on this video lol
i have to watch this for school but its too long someone pls give me a summary
It's barely five minutes
The video did not show planets and stars forming along electrical Z pinch. The "Snake Nebula" demostrates how stars and planets form. The disk formation is another dead end.
Vyez vyez now imagine the zenith . North star always above earth... Wonder which decade they.ll fit that in?
North star changes over long periods of time. Your puny little lifetime is irrelevant in cosmic time scales.
@@nebtheweb8885 & your puny lifetime is puny punitively get ?
There are stars in every direction. Since the earth is spinning on its axis, chances are good that that axis points to a star somewhere, and whatever star it is will appear to stay fixed in place. And we naturally name that star the “north star”.
The north star isn’t surprising at all when you think about how “there are stars everywhere in the sky”, “the earth rotates”, and “that spinning accounts for all star movement- they don’t move, we do”
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Ok professor's the stars are stable when thrashing thousands of mph? Are we? Theoretically?
learn some physics before you make a silly statement.
Hahaha
Teach me all knowing beings of nothingham but just in theory I have to say any scenario is possible & sometimes when you're wrong or not quite sure theoretically so who,s the teacher? I don't even care if you don't know.
@@moonbow7957 Really? You seem to care, even though you don't even know that you care. I very much doubt you can be taught. You are the type of person who believes what you want and will stick to those ideas no matter what. I once had an interest in the EU and then researched enough to see that it was not valid. Learning is great.
@@toma110363 No sir sorry 1 simple question put y'all in a corkscrew i,d say once you understand & see yourselves not that I think anyone is wrong or bad, you might understand yourselves. I think anything to be possible so what? Can't I ask 1 simple thing? Sorry
one can program to simulate any version. this one is re-enforcing current model which is wrong. MG1
I really hope your comment was a sarcastic joke intended to portray the opinion of an idiot instead of an opinion of an actual idiot.
Science over religion
@Trxln lol no
Where can we see that the earth is flat?
hmm, currently only in imaginations and digital world
There is zero reason for the system to begin on a flat plane.
Actually, there is a reason and you should have known that if you did your research
Actually. Because of the conservation of rotational momentum and with the assumption of 3D space it will start of as a disk and this is evident looking at the planets in our solar system that are within 2 degrees of eachother. Wtf? Are you dumb? I think so. Lol go fuck yourself and your god.
You're quite right. It likely began as a clump of gas and debris, then due to a slight bias in the initial positions and velocities of all the particles, the law of conservation of angular momentum began to favor one plane, and one direction of rotation. Here's a great video that describes it in more detail with visuals: ruclips.net/video/tmNXKqeUtJM/видео.html
@@leomckee-reid5498 Heh Leo, I checked out the link in your comment, would you know if there is any science experiments on youtube that show a setup of a scaled down solar system being formed with phisical materials used [not pc simulations ] that can reproduce this theory, I would be interested to see this. Thanks
@@DarrylSteele69 you are actually dumber than a fucking kid. That would be only work if its extremely large due to gravity, shit please just stick to your religion, we dont need you to do science, theres smart people for that:)
Well it's a nice animation But that's all it is,
As the planets were forming from Small Particles as they were clumping together the gravity would have been increasing so why didn't they all come together Then have separate planets.
Like I said it was a nice animation but that's all it was.
Clearly this is CGI and not a simulation, even if the CGI is based vaguely on less fancy looking simulators. Still no reason for a flat plane is ever offered, nor the reason for overwhelming domination of one direction of rotation. See link to follow (if permitted).
Here is a proper n-body-gravity simulation of how the solar system formed without all the fancy graphics:
ruclips.net/video/jZqvRJruh4g/видео.html
@@jonbainmusicvideos8045 Wow!! I watched that. How incredibly cheesy. Voo doo astronomy. That is perhaps the most ridiculous thing I have ever witnessed next to flat earth. How did you ever dream this up?
Your profile pic says everything about why you speak the way you do lol
When the solar system was formed, there were no planets such as Mercury, Venus, Earth, the Moon Mars and the asteroid belt in this system, because between Jupiter and the Sun there was only one planet that was 3 times the size of today's Earth and the rotation of this planet around its axis was about 9 hours and life started on this planet. And since the planet was bigger, all the animals and all the vegetation were also bigger, which means that dinosaurs lived on this planet. But the planet Venus came from outside the solar system and crashed into this planet. The planet shattered into pieces to form the planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Moon, Mars and the asteroid belt. These data prove that the remains of dinosaurs must also be found on the moon as well as on Mars. And now it is understood why the continents have moved apart and why Venus rotates in the opposite direction. To come to this conclusion, you first need to see the data of the planets on their rotation around their axis. From these data it follows that the closer the planet is to the Sun, the faster its rotation should be. As we can see from the data, Saturn spins at a speed of about 11 hours, while Jupiter, which is closer to the Sun, spins at a speed of about 10 hours. This means that Mars should rotate around 9 hours and the Earth 8 hours. However, the data shows us that Mars and Earth rotate every 24 hours, which means that they are rotating too slowly and this indicates that there must have been a collision since the rotations decreased. It is the same with Venus and it is the same with Mercury.
Why are we only seeing cartoons?
Because we didn't have cameras back then
The accretion model is complete horse shit, no one seriously believes in this hundred year old idea anymore.
And what do they believe in?
It isn't crazy when you understand some people are just looking for a demonstration of people trying to qualify themselves past their own ignorance - that's internet brain. I like to turn it back on them. It's more likely Sandy just posted, left, and didn't bother to look.
So, instead we should believe in a 2,000 year book? Got it.
@@MattJohno2 no, but pay attention to the natural state of matter in the universe "out there." PLASMA has it's own set of physics and gravity plays no role.
lies lies lies however truth will come out at a mainstream level
I really hope your comment was a sarcastic joke intended to portray the opinion of an idiot instead of an opinion of an actual idiot.
Lies according to Genesis 1:1?
@@manualLaborercome on, really?
Don't talk utter rubbish. This is all make believe.
Make believe like your god? What's your beef.
whatever you say hun
@SciFyerGamingAdded it to my quote collection
utter rubbish
We can't just come out from nothing.. That's the rule in science. So it must come out from something..so if not God then what...??
Kirinkinkongkoy you are dumb, ever heard of quantum flux ? Come out of the cave man, will you?
If not god, it must be God. God creates everything beyond human imagination. Science is just a small piece of fuc*ing human imagination
Dog Sing
Same can be said for god.
"God is a fuc*ing piece of human imagination"
Dog Sing
Religon is much more of imagination than science.
Science is proof of GOD
Wow. Jesus saves.
complete and utter garbage.
Rofl. Dumbass
Yeah, show me your research, loser. The research you do after scooping fries all day.
It seems you are talking about yourself I agree
I smell troll...