American Reacts Why American Healthcare Is The Worst In The Developed World
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Yes I'm an American and everything he says is true. The entire point is profit not health care.
Thank god for Canadian communism? ;-) They have no money in Canada, and everyone is a doctor ;-))
Capitalism baby!
@@kingofohio5689 Neoliberal capitalism, where what matters is profits for the shareholders in insurance and pharmaceutical companies. The people and their health doesn't matter.
Change your healthcare system then?
The correct term would be "health crime" not "health care"
Imagine charging a mother for permission to hold her new-born baby! Totally immoral and insane.
Hospital administrators not doctors, are the villains in every Hospital soap opera.
Mate we are fighting if you stop me holding my baby 😅
@@williambranch4283 The privatised medical system in the USA is the villain: healthcare-for-profit.
@@richardoldfield6714 I beg to disagree (for the Swiss who have a mixed system). Are the Swiss, Satan? If you hate money, send it all to me ;-)
@@longshanks90 You apparently not heard of that evil fictional nurse, Nurse Ratchet, she would beat your ass!
Coming from the UK, the reason I most often see given by people defending for profit healthcare is exactly what you said; they don't see why they should pay for someone else's care. The dumbest part of that is that in a for profit system, you're still paying into insurance. That company insures other people, and they make their profit by betting that, on average, their clients will use less healthcare than they pay for. In other words, private health insurance STILL PAYS FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S CARE, plus it also pays for a profit margin in top of that. Selfishness in healthcare costs you more and buys you less, because literally all it achieves is to allow you to pick your favourite brand name to exploit the misery of yourself and others, for financial gain.
Profitting from people at their lowest when sick is actually sick & perverse. Secondly, if someone falls down in the street, we as humans run to help them up, we do not leave them on the pavement ergo it contradicts the "pay for someone else's care". We care.
I never understand that, so like you end up paying for insurance in the US and yet it still doesn't cover everything because you have to pay out of pocket a percentage of the cost, the insurance from what I know just reduces the cost.
It sounds to me like a scam where not only are you paying through your job but you end up paying a lot from your pocket and even with good insurance, that can still be a lot of money out of your pocket.
Its crazy Americans put up with that and very likely explains why the US system is the most expensive for the least effective, they are effectively double charging them.
Regardless of what Americans might think of the US and other developed country's health care, they should ask the question, they are the only modern country with that kind of a system, every other modern and many developing countries have universal health care, so do Americans honestly think they are right about their health care system and everyone else is wrong, it's highly unlikely and I personally think it's because Americans have been condition to think their system is better because it's more profitable to the rich elites, even the guy in the video, he's pretty open minded and you could see how he wanted to defend the US system, that's where the real problem is in the US as it's making it difficult for real change that would benefit all Americans.
@@paul1979uk2000 It is a scam (full coverage is promised but not guaranteed). Actual premiums for full coverage are much higher (bait and switch fraud).
Couldn't have put it better myself. All insurance works on the same principle. I've been driving for over 40 years and only claimed once, and that was because someone broke into my car. So I've been paying all that time and got pretty much fuck all for it. ✌❤🇬🇧
@@paul1979uk2000 the Americans are always talking about freedom as if they're the only country that has it, but they don't realise they are all slaves. They work stupid hours, get almost no paid vacation or sick pay. They don't know any different. I've said this many times...the US doesn't educate it's people, it brainwashes and indoctrinates them, that's how cults work...some charismatic people at the top tell people what to believe and they blindly follow it. I think the US healthcare system is a crime against humanity. ✌❤🇬🇧
Oh Connor, I wanted to give you a hug when that penny dropped.
I think the only positive is if you are a shareholder in an insurance company.
Sadly, the greed has spread, and they are lobbying the UK government to infect the NHS with US-style healthcare. I hope it doesn't happen. We in the UK really need to fight to keep what we have. Once it has gone, we will never get it back.
Yeah. That look on his face gave me one of those 'Oh, hell!!' moments.
If you keep voting Tory you're going to get exactly what you voted for.... This is wholly unsurprising and mainly the fault of the population that are voting exactly for it and then acting like it's the politicians they put in place fault.
It's a democracy, your government is a reflection of the voters. Your vote is the means by which you choose which policies you wish to support, you can't vote for policies and then whine about them.
Or rather you can, like a lot of Brexiteers are doing right now.
@@michaelmay5453 Agreed. My own bugbear are those who cast their vote out of habit without any consideration of policies at all. I stopped talking to a previous neighbour because she told me she always voted tory because her parents vote tory. That's all she knew about politics. I never bring politics up in conversation now, my blood pressure can't take it.
Oh God so did I. His face when he kept pausing and rewinding was so sad.
The problem is that in many ways, the NHS is slowly, already privatising itself eg private healthcare, private baby scans, private counsellors for mental health to name a few - all without help from USA corporations. There are too many people who use the NHS and not enough financial contributions towards it. On top of that, we have an ageing population. This is why the waiting lists, particularly for cancer & hip ops, are extremely long. There are also waste issues which could be managed more efficiently. Although I have contributed towards the NHS my whole working life & am happy to do so, not everything in the NHS garden is rosy.
I think if you asked anyone from Europe, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Japan or other OECD countries if they would swap their country’s healthcare with America’s, the answer would be “no.”
And to our horror some of our governments worship the US and want to emulate all of their ideas. NO!
The US is of the the last places I would ever want to live in. Partly because of the imhumane view on people and their health
@@MariaH-qr3uu Exactly. Such a rich country monetary wise, but ethically it is lacking.
That's not true. It would be "FUCK NO!"
The problem with America is you think caring is Socialism. IT ISN´T!
The problem with Europe is y'all think socialism is caring.
@@williambranch4283 How would you know,? You have been indoctrinated by a system that gives you guns and American health care.
America is not a country, its a corporation..
The business of America is business - President Coolidge.
My wife had two kidney transplants as the first didn't function. Also, the wife was transferred 55 mile to a London hospital by ambulance. I did not receive any bill and we had no health insurance. We don't need to as we are British citizens. I worship my NHS.
No so good after Covid? I hear doctors no longer take appointments ;-(
@@williambranch4283 Not true. They're just employing virtual appointments online if practicable, to clear the backlog due to Covid19. I've had two, face to face consultations with my GP in the last sven months. Plus Nurse and Consultant Surgeon Hospital consultations too.
@@williambranch4283 My surgery is open as usual. No appointments needed for the morning, just turn up and see a doctor.
@@peckelhaze6934 Great ... my daughter had to go to emergency last week, same deal ... she has Medicare/Medicaid ... so ....
@@johnp8131 Good to hear, guess the complainers do what they always do ...
American Healthcare is working exactly as it is supposed to. It makes money for insurance companies, pharmacutical companies, politicians and hospitals.
The fact that people get healed from injuries and cured from diseases is just a fortunate side effect.
Yes and the hospitals and insurance companies and politicians would rather prefer the American people wouldn't get well and better because then they can keep charging the American people for healthcare and keep making huge disgusting amounts of profit hence why most American food are loaded with carcinogenic chemicals that are banned in the EU and even some in China and most of the world but the Americans food companies will still keep using them and pumping them into all the foods Americans eat.
Basically, America is shafted by paying over priced pharma & medical procedures. It is all about profit & profiteering from sick people
Thinking that America gave the best doctors is clutching at straws. How many patients can a doctor treat in a day? The doctor wouid be charging top dollar, so his patients would be people who can afford to eat properly, have regular check ups, first sign of something wrong see the doctor, without having to worry about whether their insurance covers them, and can they afford to be off work, with no money coming in. After I retired I visited my doctor, found out that I had high blood pressure, I had several check ups in the hospital, treadmill, others that I didn't know, it quite frankly beat me what most of the tests were testing for.My doctor prescribed several different medications. Ten years later, I had a heart attack. 999 call, Ambulance, Surgery, Angioplasty, two stents in my heart, five days in hospital, physio therapy. Slight alteration in medication. No bills, being a pensioner, all medications free, and delivered to my home.regular check ups, still here at 84 years old. Not one bill.My husband and myself paid National Insurance for 100 years between us. Never begrudged a penny. Had my son in hospital, three weeks (due to complications)in hospital, hip replacement, my son has had 4 strokes, he's still with us, thank goodness.
it's not an unfortunate side effect, remember a dead customer is an unpaying customer.
Ah, but people are priced out of getting cured because a cured person is not a repeat customer!
If you haven't yet, have a look at Evan Edinger's video where he speaks to an NHS worker on costs in hospitals. He campares it to what you'd pay on average in America (since he's American now living in England). Gives you a good understanding on how profiteering the US healthcare system is
The NHS is pretty much fudged into oblivion by politicians trying to force privatisation like in the us. But it's still working better than the us system. Despite being underfunded and kneecapped ...
Basically, America is shafted by paying over priced pharma & medical procedures. It is all about profit & profiteering from sick people
Hi, Agreed
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Definitely check out Evan. He gives a good breakdown of prices and information
"Do we have the best doctors at least?"
What does it even mean to be a good doctor when healthcare decisions are made by the insurance company? Further, the treatment for just about every treatable disease is just about the same in just about every country. You'll get antibiotics for a bacterial infection anywhere in the world because... that's how you treat a bacterial infection. I can understand the concept of a *bad* doctor, but I'm not sure what you mean by a good one.
After Covid I no longer believe in doctors unfortunately ... they are all government agents.
If you don't treat a person only because he/she hasn't an insurance, you can say of yourself you're a good doctor?
America does not necessarily have the best doctors, but what it does have is the money to bring doctors in from all over the world.
@@maudeboggins9834 isn’t that true of a lot of countries? most of my docs in the UK come from other parts of the world.
@@Hdjdnsjnd America seek out the best doctors around the world regardless of their English language skills because America want to claim they have the best, the difference perhaps with the NHS is the doctors come to Britain rather than being lured with promises of huge salaries. I used to live in the UK, I left 25 years ago what I noticed about the NHS staff was they came from former British colonies & had that right to come & work. I lived in the UK in 1983 when a certain Dr. Alec Jeffries from Leicester Universcity Hospital made the definite revelation of murderer Colin Pitchfork. It was Pitchfork who was caught by DNA. That name you may or may not know. But years later I wondered whether Dr. Jeffries had been lured to the states because of his findings. Dr. Jeffries had been asked by police if he could do this because Jeffries had decided on a dispute between two African mothers claiming one boy was their son. Using DNA from the boy he could definitively say which of the women was the actual mother. Dr. Jeffries is still in the UK.
It is very difficult to explain to an American why their health-care ranks so poorly when they defend it themselves. Leave them to it.
Where are you from?
Canadian here and I can tell you I would never give up my Universal Healthcare. I happily pay slightly higher taxes to ensure no one goes bankrupt from Medical Debt.
Same here. It's helped me quite a bit.
Yet you don't pay higher taxes.... not even slightly..
It's the same general consensus in the UK...
@Martin Skovgaard Long since been shown to be a bullshit story. Stefan Molyneux (correct spelling btw) was proven to have made the entire "I was dying" story up as part of his right wing attempt to discredit Universal Healthcare in Canada. Not sure why you would use that story thinking I and others wouldn't know the truth about it. He had a non-threatening cyst that was never a danger to him, but saw an opportunity to make up BS story about how he'd die if he had to wait.
The man is an avowed Nazi/White Nationalist who infamously known for his views on racial purity and Eugenics; so taking his word on anything is laughable. The man's a fraud.
@Martin Skovgaard- I don't get your point! You name one person who decided (I guess because they also had money?), to have an operation done in America. That's not an argument for or against anything! Except universal healthcare is the 'norm' in most counties except the US (and you cannot change that fact).
"We don't like the idea of our money paying for other people's healthcare"
How the hell do you think insurance works? It's collectivised payment and shared risk - everyone with insurance puts into the pot through their premiums, and if anyone with the insurance needs bills paying, then money comes out of the pot to pay the bills.
If you've got insurance and pay premiums, then you're already paying for other people's bills.
If you're looking for a positive about the US healthcare system, I believe there are shorter waiting lists to see consultants and specialists. It's probably less true for GPs as I've heard horror stories about all the admin and procedural hoops a patient has to go through to see the GP.
I use the UK NHS, and I ring up, get either a telephone appointment or a face to face appointment, depending on my condition. If it's face to face, turn up on time. Wait until I'm called (frequently on time, rarely more than 15min delay), go see the GP, and leave 10 or 15 minutes later. If a prescription is involved, the GP emails it to my pharmacy of choice, and it will be waiting for me to collect less than 30 mins later.
You mentioned having the best doctors. I remember 40 or 50 years ago, our British doctors were heading to the US because they could get better pay than in the UK.
It's not so true now, as our doctors are much better paid.
Its even more weird when they shout/complain and say that they hate this idea because its "communism" or "socialism" (both words they dont understand) Which is evil yet gladly accept that their Military/Police/Fire/Libraries and Schools etc are paid for by the exact same system!...
"If you're looking for a positive about the US healthcare system, I believe there are shorter waiting lists to see consultants and specialists"
It's not even true, they also wit a lot and more thank most european country especially for emergencies case such as cancer !
I’m an American and needed to see a neurologist and I had to wait 3 months.
Poor Connor! You’re having a hard time dealing with this! Health Care in the US is top-notch - if you can pay for it. Choice of facilities and care is wonderful - but the lack of access to it for a large proportion of the population is a massive issue. You really need to find out a lot more about how the American health system really works.
Your comment sounds fair & sensible.
I know!!! It’s not difficult, everyone pays the bill regardless of income. For a smart young man I’m in disbelief that he doesn’t get this absolute racket because that’s what it is
@@scottirvine121 I no longer live in the UK & my brother lives in California, when he had his appendix out as it was about to burst he stayed one night in hospital & the bill at the end for everything was $40,000. OMG. Fortunately for him his union paid that bill. He is covered by his work. A nutty amount of money.
@@scottirvine121 .
Drip feed propaganda, you just accept it until something makes you look at it more deeply.
That's when you realise for example, that with administration accounting for about 30% of healthcare costs in the US, that is big business in itself.
It's true what you say. The thing is, if a country's healthcare system is, say, 90% effective (however you measure it) and some other country's healthcare system is only 70% efficient - *BUT* in the first country only 50% of people can afford to be treated whereas everyone is treated in the second country - suddenly country one's healthcare efficiency is halved to only 45% - which is exactly why the US system scores so low vs every other developed despite having all the shiny hospitals and machines that go *PING!*
I am in the UK and we do have an issue with the waiting lists for routine operations in the NHS at the moment. However, I injured my leg earlier in the year, went to the local hospital was seen that morning. They examined my leg, said I needed an x-ray. I went down the hall, had the x-ray, was reassessed as the x-ray went straight to the doctors computer. They confirmed that it was just bruised, and I left. Yes, I had to wait for three hours, but that included two sessions where my leg was assessed and an x-ray. Zero cost - the NHS is amazing. Oh, and I also had a follow up visit with my GP and had some antibiotics - the only cost was the prescription charge, which was about £10 (forget how much it was exactly).
People in the UK complain about long waits because they dont realise that they get pushed to the back of the queue because it isnt life threatning. There isnt a 3hr wait for a heart attack patient, but someone who needs hip replacement can still live waiting longer. But its the type waiting for hip replacements etc non life threatening that complain the most. You're still alive arent you? Shut up! (Not you personally but to the complainers)
In Scotland and Wales you don't even pay for prescriptions. They scrapped the prescription charge as it cost more to administer than it brought in. So we scrapped it and made it free for all.
@@chadUCSD England should do the same. If Scotland goes independent following another Indy Ref then I am going to move there. I hoping that having a Scottish wife will mean that they will let me in! Fed up with English politicians, absolutely useless!
I am swedish, I can call a doctor and get an appointment the same day. Some non emergency operations might have to wait a bit longer, but emergency, you get help straight away. My son broke his arm, we went to the hospital, 3 hours later we were back home, cast and all. And it did not cost anything, kids get free healtcare. For an adult it would be around 20 bucks.
And thats how it should be.
It isn't free tho. You either pay it through your taxes, your insurance or by paying directly. "Free" Healthcare doesn't exist.
@@shakya00 Yes, but if it's included in the mandatory taxation system you don't look at it like a payment. We don't pay taxes on our own on most occasions, employers take care of that before the salary reach our bank accounts. And we do pay less in tax than a regular US citizen spends on insurances.
@@shakya00 The care is free.
The costs associated with the treatment are funded by everyone, which makes it inexpensive for everyone.
The huge waiting list argument is just used to make a socialized healthcare system look bad so people who don’t fight for a better system in the US. Yes, you sometimes have to wait a while for a non-emergency treatment, but I prefer that over not getting a treatment at all because I can’t afford it.
Two years ago I had severe abdominal pain and got picked up by an ambulance around midnight. The next morning they found the source (gall stones) and I was on the operating table that same afternoon. It was urgent, but not an emergency. Luckily my Dutch insurance paid for it all.
Trouble is America never tends to look outwardly for improvement to its growth . Its a shame .
It is true that the waiting times for the NHS are getting longer. However the reason for that is the Tories have chronically underfunded the NHS for over a decade, and of course they want people to believe that it is because the structure of the NHS is inefficient and that private companies should be brought in. If the NHS was properly funded, and public health workers were paid a fair wage, and more doctors and nurses were trained, it would be much better.
100%
@Martin Skovgaard good joke most money will go anyway to profit
NHS wasting millions on pointless office jobs has nothing to do with it I'm sure.
I think when the interviewer quoted $10,000 he was referring to maternity care - in the UK we pay ZERO to have pre-natal care, birth and post natal care ...
and it's true, big pharma don't encourage good health with their medicine because that's not good for business (their business).
I think that Americans from their earliest breath have it inculcated into their very being that they are THE best (at everything) - why should they look at other countries. If what you say is literally true about Americans not liking one another to the point you wouldn't pay into a health care in case Mr/Mrs Bloggs down the road voted in an opposite way AND benefited from your contribution.
You younger generation must help change the mind-set.
So glad I live in the UK. I would be bankrupt by now.
My husband had a suspected heart attack. Go to A&E, on a ward within 2 hours, angiogram and stent next day. My son is insulin dependent diabetic. Insulin, all prescriptions for blood pressure and as immune suppressed, for any medication, designated diabetic nurse at local doctors to monitor his health, hospital eye tests all provided by the NHS. All ‘free’. Yes, the NHS is paid for through sliding scale taxes but if you don’t earn enough to pay taxes or are unemployed or unable to work, you get the same care. We have a lot of family who work in NHS. It’s creaking at the seams and it has its problems but we love it.
When Money becomes more important than Ethics, a nation is lost . Greetings from a German Nurse ! Our System isn’t perfect , but better .
Humans have no morality, no ethics. We virtue signal for various selfish or clannish reasons. Thanks for being a nurse anyway.
I'll give you a personal example. My wife was taking 40mg/week of Humari with a cost of £7000 per injection (Adalimumab) an American outfit. The patent ran out. She now gets the same drug from Imraldi at a cost of £700 per injection. The NHS saved millions overnight. My wife does not pay a bean for any of this.
Yes, drugs are a scam (money wise) ... legal or illegal.
I think we just watched an existential crisis in real time
Funny how they USA keep saying how Universal healthcare does not work and yet, how many nations have it?
28 nations with land on the Eu continent
11 in Africa
20 In Asia
6 in North America (obviously the USA does not but even Mexico does)
6 in South America
2 in Oceania
73 nations in the world out of 195 have a Universal healthcare
If you go by the term of 1st world nations (little controversial i know) then the odd one out is the USA
Of course not all work as well as each other but the fact that so many nations have it shows the idea works somehow
The healthcare in the US is world class IF you can afford it. Whereas, everywhere else in the developed world, healthcare is world class and you don't HAVE to afford it...
I live in the North East England and i have spoken to my endocrinologist for 2 and a half minutes on the phone over the past three months and because he comes from India i can't understand a word he says and when i say sorry i didn't understand what you said he goes into angry little indian mode, also takes 2 weeks to get a blood test at your GP and if you go to AE it takes 7 hours to see a doctor who was a Ugandan woman and she didn't understand what i was trying to say especially when i went in with a chest pain issue :P Not exactly world class mate. Also got told i would have to wait 12 hours for an ambulance, so there is that too.
@@SCARRIOR - that’s the shitty end of the NHS 🥺 This has to be fixed. However, you are able to use the NHS at no cost at the point of service. Sadly in the US many oriole wouldn’t even be able to afford to see the GP let alone a specialist.
@@SCARRIOR Thats what you get when you let your politicians underfund and kneecap the NHS every possibilty they get. Scotish friend of mine was flown to Germany for some treatments (tore all ligaments, even ripped some, in his legs in an accident) before Brexit. Next scheduled treatment he has now is in 8 months thanks to Brexit. That leg is probably going stiff before that... Another example of why Brexit was a sh!te idea...
Your question as to whether there is anything good about the US health system, e.g. whether private hospitals get the best doctors: That is exactly where the problem lies. In the US, people think that if you offer more money, you get a better doctor. But you only get the more greedy doctor with it. In Switzerland there was a clinic that wanted to pay 3 million a year for a famous cancer specialist. But he was a parliamentarian for the Socialists and said that anything over 250,000 was not ethically correct and that he only worked for a clinic that focused on people and not money.
And the Swiss have mandatory military service. No citizenship without service (seem to remember that from a movie ..).
Considering that they have the highest rates of infant and maternal mortality along with very high rates of medical errors one can presume that the doctors are not the best in the world, I watched a blog for a while by an American doctor and her partner also a doctor who had come to work in the UK, they were better paid, worked less hours and had far more access to training and development opportunities than they had in the US.
@@RushfanUK This is a problem, particularly with intern doctors (who are semiconscious when on duty) ... senior nurses frequently have to correct them.
Switzerland has a system based on profit, the same as the US. Why does healthcare work so much better there than in the US?
Profit is essentially a word Marx came up with. There are many who are brainwashed into Marxist ideology without knowing it, especially the well-educated.
@@MrGunnar69 The health insurance system in Switzerland is bad and profit-oriented like in the USA. Nevertheless, there are big differences. With the SUVA there is a state accident insurance that works extremely well. In addition, there is a certain price control in Switzerland that prevents extremes. And third, there are few for-profit hospitals, most of the hospitals are state owned. And fourth, the law dictates that anyone who needs medical help to survive will not be denied it because they cannot pay. In such a case, the canton (state) pays.
When the penny drops for you, honestly: your look made me feel for you.
Actually, if you care about **yourself and your loved ones**, you'd advocate for universal health care system to cover basic medical needs/treatment, with additional private health insurance for those who want and can afford more choice/options. Like in Australia. It's just dumb luck, but I am so grateful to have been born here.
I got friends in NY that drive regularly to Canada to buy their Insulin there, because even if you calculate the costs of fuel it is far cheaper. 😂
You have to pay for insulin?
@@101steel4 No, I am german, but I got a friend in New York (US). He regularly drives to Canada to buy his insulin there, because it is far cheaper there, than in the US. 😉
Hi Connor, you wanted any 'positives' from the US system, there are some things it does well.
It supports the market in lawyers, it supports (excessive) profits for drug companies, it supports insurance companies.
These three sectors are more profitable in the US system, but are also less efficient.
Which part of this was the positives? Serious question, I see all those points as negative 🤔
@@0x2A_ He wanted positives, sorry that's the best I've got.🙂
15:57 Connor realises that good health doesn't always equal wealth!
Hi Connor, just think that the commentator was an US citizen. The phrase "for Profit" sums it up. The sad thing is that there is too many people in the US who believe your system is the best, when clearly it is not. The other sad thing is that Insurance companies, Pharmaceutical companies and Hospital companies will lobby the government to make sure nothing changes. Why? because the dollar is everything!
Congress is everything. The buck stops with them. They all invest in big pharma products & like it that way. When Americans either move abroad or travel outside of the US then they realize that their system is not for the people but for profit.
The content creator IS an American citizen as far as I know.
As a Belgian the entire "waiting list" argument is always entertaining for me when it comes to healthcare.
I have been asked by my sister around 4pm to go to the doctor that evening to get some prescription(birth control in this case) because she couldn't go. Something with her dog. So I sigh and say yes.
I left the house at 4:30.
Came back at 5:30 having seen our doctor.
The one time I bothered making an appointment around 10am in the morning to check a painful knee, something I had for months already so in no way urgent, I was allowed to come in at 1pm.
The next day I had pictures taken, the day after I got treatment. Shot something in my knee which feels weird.
I also did this all during working hours and was still paid. I simply left the job, told them I had a doctors visit and that's that. Same goes for basically any appointment.
The price for these things I don't really remember because it's like getting some snack. You don't care if it's 5 or 7 dollars. It doesn't register. I think I paid 10 or so and I got 9 or so back later from the government.
There is imo one thing the US is best at.
If there is something 1/10.000.000 people has about 30-35 cases will be in the US. Therefore possible some doctor will have decided to specialize in this.
In a country such as Belgium there might not be a single case at those odds. Meaning there might be little or no information or treatment for it.
This means that because of it's size rare diseases are more present, allowing for experience with said diseases.
At the end of the day money and healthcare just don't mix in my head.
Mother had a car crash, 2 weeks of IC, 4 more weeks in the hospital. Repairs of scars on her arms, legs, back(glass...).
We were creating a new bedroom downstairs not worrying at all about any bills.
And imo that's one of the things often overlooked. We simply don't have to worry or fight with insurance companies or any of that nonsense.
Glad you got good care. We have no medical care in America, and we live in caves and hunt with spears ;-)
@@williambranch4283 Socialist mentality has won in Europe. No wonder many thus distort the perception of the evil capitalist US which isn't much less socialised than most European countries btw...With all your medicaid, medicare, Obamacare, public subsidies, many medical regulations your healthcare system is a lot socialized too. Yet many people believe that if you are poor, they let you die in the US...things like that.
@@shakya00 Politics is never about truth, and medical politics is malpractice from origination. Socialism is only possible in W Europe, because the US liberated you, subsidized you, and defended you with NATO. Which is fine, if that is what Americans had voted for (we didn't). We do have socialist medicine in the US, it is called medics/corpsman ... and you only get it if you are military active or retired. That is the medical care I was employed in (and saw the private kind outside because I was a contractor). We can have socialist medicine in the US ... but only if we draft the entire population into the military. Medicare is primarily for the elderly, and you only get it because you spent 40 years contributing directly to it (aside from other taxes) ... same as Social Security works (you have to work and contribute, and your outtake at retirement is partly proportional to how much you contributed (it actually is a very shitty savings plan ;-)
Basically, America is shafted by paying over priced pharma & medical procedures. It is all about profit & profiteering from sick people
Yeah it's just the ones that are pushing against universal health care in the US are pushing that agenda of long waiting list, they always tend to use the UK because it's one of the worst in Europe, it's all BS really to paint the picture to Americans that universal health care isn't good.
In the end, the ones trying to protect that industry at the top will say anything to protect those profits coming in.
If everybody in a country have their basic needs met in a way that guarantee a basic safety, many of the petty conflicts won't arise. A lack of basic resources feeds into a competition and hinders unity. That is why stuff like universal healthcare and other social security measures are so important.
But only if you keep out one billion foreigners who want that same free health care.
@@williambranch4283 William, that's literally not true
@@williambranch4283 You need to read my answer again, take a deep breath and think about it. Because your answer just proves what I stated above even more.
As a 76-years old Swedish retired journalist, I "consume" quite a bit of healtcare, due to diabetes, high blood pressure and a couple of kidney-stones in latter days. I also have had the lenses of both eyes replased due to cataract and have had three colostopomies.
My medical annual bills have a cap of som USD 150. My medications have a annual cap of some USD 250. That is the law in Sweden.
A year ago I had an emergency with one kidney. A catheter was put into the kidney and I had to spend two nights in a hospital bed. Total cost to me: less than USD 50, including food materiel etc.
The stone was later crushed, , costing me nothing, due to the aforementioned cap on costs.
You might argue that taxes are higher in Sweden than in the US. But if you add your insurance costs etc, we are at about the same level, apart fromm the fact that tens of millions of Americans have no insurance at all, whereas everyone in sweden is covered, as in the case of every first world country, bar the US of A.
Hans Strömberg, Stockholm, Sweden
Congratulations, my experience was similar health wise, and thanks to corporate health coverage (large Defense connected corporation) most of my surgery was covered. I would be dead without it. But as per Socrates, it is hard to tell if death or life is the better choice!
Your "idea" towards the end of the video was something you hear amongst many Americans today - they pay for their own healthcare and are against paying for other people's healthcare. Obama attempted to bring healthcare for all when he was in the presidency but the Republicans have since dismantled that idea because of that same idea you voiced. Theme of American healthcare: only about profit and how much money it can make. Fortunately, here in the UK healthcare is free for everyone. There is a waiting list but you are seen as soon as feasibly possible if it's an emergency.
Obama didn't write the bill, Congress did ... and they did a horrible job. Bronze level care (lowest) this year is $1782 per month for a family of five, and an individual deductible of only $4500 ... almost no family could afford that. The Silver level is even more expensive.
Where can I wash me brain?
@@thomaslawley7444 That's assuming you have a brain lol
Hey Connor please read this!!!. i live in the uk i got an appointment for a doctor yesturday within hours after a call, also about 6 months ago i called the emergency line 999 with chest pain, and apple watch said had an irregualar heart beat within 5 mins had a ambulance at my house and withinin 20 mins was at the hospital (normally 30 min drive away), turns out needed surgey to sort a blocked arturey, havent had to pay a penny towards my care, im currently not working due to disablites so im not paying towards the nhs in taxes (in the USA even with good insurance would have to pay over $100,000+, but i owe my life to the nhs it might be socialised medicine but doesnt mean communist at all the uk isnt communist its just mild social democacy, im america you might not like your other americans but think about it this way most people in the world get sick or have something major happen to their healthy at least a few times a year or majorly at least once in a lifetime, in most other counties that doesnt bankcrupt you like does in USA, i actually wanted to move to the USA few years ago before i started learning more about the healthcare and social support networks in the USA for people with cronic health conditions like i do where i need to support from the govenment to even live, i no longer even wanna go on holiday to the USA, dont take this the wrong way but everything just seems to be majorly screwed up there!!!! hope you read this connor!!! (sorry for bad spelling got dislexia)
And guess what Connor (if you should read this?); The majority of people in the UK do not begrudge paying towards any other persons use of the NHS. That's because everyone knows that at some time in their lives they will rely on it themselves. And the one occasion you DON'T need the stress of wondering if you can afford to call an ambulance, or pay for an operation or pay for aftercare or medicines etc. IS WHEN YOU'RE ILL !!!
How can you say you're openminded when you're telling us if we disagree, we can just leave?
Conner is from New England, they shoot anyone that disagrees with them, British or Virginian ;-)
Cos he's not open minded himself. Or so the video would suggest.
British people live, on average, longer than our American friends. And we don’t bankrupt our people by accomplishing this.
You can also pay for private healthcare if you wanted to.
Only if you pay for all healthcare, cash at delivery, can you know what a given treatment costs. Otherwise the actual cost is hand waved away into unknown bank accounts.
@@williambranch4283 .
What are you talking about, it doesn't matter what any particular treatment, only how much the total is.
Oh Connor, The NHS is leagues ahead of the US system in terms of care providing. Its not a perfect system but it wont turn anyone away based on ability to pay!!!
I have esophageal cancer, stage 1. $300 copay here in Norway and the rest is covered by the norwegian health care system. I will survive and not go bankrupt in the process. I also get sick pay.
Connor I think you might be being a little unfair on your country. Remember after WW2 the US was turbo charged, its factories were at full capacity and there was huge war profits for many companies. With Europe in ruins, the Marshall plan (Basically $Billions) to rebuild Europe ended up back in the US cos they were producing about 50% of all goods at that time, that the Europeans and Japanese needed to rebuild. Not to mention the war debts allies had to pay. So for a good 20 years or so after the war, the US was a land of milk and honey, even for factory workers who saw their standard of living rocket. Couple that with the fact the US is huge and somewhat isolated geographically, very few citizens ventured to other countries to see how things were being done and so (IMO) it's easy to see why a feeling of "Yeah man, we are pretty damn good" came about and it's taking a long time for the people of the US to realise they are, in some areas, being taken for a ride.
Love the bit where it suddenly clicked in your head!
Let's say it again : private doesnt mean more efficient. Works for health, transportation, security, etc
@Martin Skovgaard Private sector means more efficient?
@Martin Skovgaard where are you from ?
@Martin Skovgaard it was a genuine question ^^ we all speak from différent places and cultures and i was curious to know. Arent public service particularly efficient in Denmark by the way ?
@Martin Skovgaard yeah, in France i see that everytime we privatize a public company, it becomes bad really quick.
The advantage of public service is to look for efficiency over profit, and to think more long term. Less communication but more investment
Anyway, its ok if i dont convince you ;)
In Australia, my husband had a severe blood infection, needed to be taken by air ambulance to a bigger hospital. He was in hospital for 4 months, had open heart surgery and was in ICU for over 40 days. We have private health insurance but didn't need to use it. Total cost to us was $0, only had to pay for parking.
Glad you recovered, now you have to socially pay back by working in the Chinese coal mines?
You’re closing comments really hit the nail on the head, I’d never contemplated that people would be against socialised healthcare because they were not in control of their dollars and didn’t like the idea that their dollars would help someone who they didn’t agree with either politically or other reasons I’d rather not mention, what an eye opener
Jesus christ stop calling it socialised healthcare it's Nationalised healthcare. We all contribute to the system so everyone can have care when they need it.
@@gn6034 Socialized medicine is, by definition, a healthcare system in which the government owns and operates healthcare facilities and employs the healthcare professionals, thus also paying for all healthcare services.
Actually, they do this with their police and fire department, paid for through their taxes. So technically if your house is on fire everyone pays for the fire department to put it out 🤷♂️😎👍
Like i can see it, but everywhere in the world is like this. In England people from the north and south hate each other, east west, england scotland, scotland wales and so on, it's all the same, history does that. It's the corporations that spend billions upon billions lobbying every year to get what they want that control the US really, not the government as such, that 800+ billion dollar yearly military spending has to come from somewhere. If this was to change the US economy would cease to be #1 and you guys aren't going to let China take that #1 spot. The US is such a divided place and that is used to keep you blaming each other rather than the smug rich guys filling their bank accounts at your expense. It works too, if that really hit the nail on the head for you.
An interesting video upload. I remember visiting the States three years ago. Had a great time. Visited California and it was certainly a country I would return to (for a holiday). I was going for a run and accidently knocked someone over. I immediately offered my assistance and apologised repeatedly. The person I knocked over literally begged me not to call for an ambulance since they had no healthcare. I was shocked and did not initially understand what or why they were saying that. Fortunately they were not injured. Healthcare in this day and age should be a fundamental right and not something you are required to pay for. One of the downsides to living in America.
We have actual poor people, who take illegal drugs and live in tent cities. Ask the Native Americans on reservations how good their medical care is.
@@williambranch4283 Sadly, as in every country there is a widespread drug problem. Unemployment affects every country too so there is always inequality. Madonna, when she was with Guy Richie and having her second child, reported that she didn't want her child born in an NHS hospital in England because it was reminiscent to the dark ages. BUT the healthcare was free and the only difference between standard NHS hospitals and private healthcare here within the UK is that with private you get a bowel of fruit daily and get to speak with the doctor more frequently. NHS hospitals you're more likely to have regular contact with the nurses. With all said and done I'd rather settle for healthcare within the UK compared to America or any other country.
@@paulrollings9606 I sympathize with anyone in need of medical care. And I hope they get it, and I don't care who pays for it. I am a very nice villain you see. From what I know from family in hospital, one of the greatest lacks is infrequent nurse or doctor visits with each patient, because they are stretched too thin, yet that is one of the most important elements of care.
I've watched a load of your videos and the best thing you've ever said in any of them is "we don't like eachother over here",truer words have never been spoken, anyway stay happy and healthy everyone ✌️
As an example, my English cousin lives in Florida. A recent ear infection ended up costing hundreds of dollars.
He went to some walk in type doctors/clinic place, and then had to pay hundreds more for the ear drops.
His American wife reckons he got a good deal. I don't lol.
Geographically, Australia is probably a bit more similar to the US and we have a similar 2 party political system (with some minor parties that can admittedly at times make a difference). The thought of a wealthier person in a state that is doing well funding someone less well off in another state with lower socioeconomic metrics does occasionally come up but the way things work is so that you don't directly see that direct flow of money, so it is not front of mind. Right now it is common for a lot of people to have to pay 38.5 cents on every extra dollar they make in income tax. After general government service costs, the remainder then gets redistributed to millions of people who are unemployed, single mothers, low income families, refugees, disabled, old aged etc. to live off. These people get thousands of dollars a month in welfare, so if the money is used to pay for some other medical costs of people in general as well, then it is just the way things go I guess. The thing is, you also get to take advantage of this system at some point in your life and if you do end up getting ill, then you don't have to worry as much. The way I see it is that the full cost of medicine could wipe out even the relatively well off, if they're unlucky, so that makes everyone's life a bit of a lottery. At least I am able to predict with some reliability that I will be able to retire with a certain amount of money, rather than have the carpet pulled from under my feet due to luck or fate. On top of that, most of us pay out a couple of hundred dollars or so per month each for private insurance. Our healthcare system bargains with the major medical supply companies to get everything that is needed in bulk. Our top income tax bracket is 46.5% and there are some other taxes, like 10% on all goods and services and very high taxes on fuel, alcohol and cigarettes. Council rates if you own a home are around $3,000 a year and just keep going up until you die. I still get the sense that a lot of people take the system we have for granted but at the end of the day, someone else often is paying for it. I'm in no doubt that I am subsidising a lot of people right now but I guess it still means that there is a safety net there for anyone who runs into trouble, and no-one's trying to mug me or break into my home at the moment. Nothing is totally free generally.
I lived in NJ for 2 years,my husband had to be taken to hospital and he was in hospital for 2 months. He was charged for everything that was used ie ambulance,gas,tablets etc. The charge was $44,000. He passed away 6 months later and I came back home to England.
from what i have read in the past, the usa has the greatest birth mortality rate in the developed world at 28 deaths per 10,000 births - even greater than north korea. i also read that even if you are insured and need an operation - if the surgeon is not connected to your insurance company then you need to foot the entire bill.
I also read that if you are ill in the usa then it is up to you to find staff replacement if you take time off to recover (should be the manager's job) and that you guys get no sick pay
Years ago I had a panic attack, yes it's terrifying. An ambulance was called, I was taken to hospital and put on oxygen iirc.
I live in England, so obviously I wasn't given a bill. I dread to think what the bill in the US would have been.
Someone paid taxes for that, and I am glad they did. Just shifting the "who pays" needs careful analysis. I would love if someone would pay all of my bills for me.
@@williambranch4283 we all do. Pay in a bit each month and that covers your healthcare. And pension.
No huge bill if/when you need to use it.
@@williambranch4283 - it comes out of taxes, so we all pay a contribution towards the NHS and everyone gets the same treatment regardless of how much tax they have paid. So not complicated.
In the USA, buying insurance also puts money in the pot that everyone with the insurance gets to share in. Key differences, of course, are if you do not have insurance you have to pay your own bills or go without care but it is also worth remembering that if you have insurance you still have to pay a chunk of the bill AND there will be a limit on how much can be spent on your medical bills in one year.
@@williambranch4283 ,
How do you think medical insurance works?
@@101steel4 You don't cost share enough, or tax enough to pay for all those good medical things, for all those people .. one's economy isn't wealthy enough. Only trivial coverage for all people or full coverage for a few people is affordable. See Obamacare Bronze plan. On public pension .. Social Security is bankrupt ... it only works if there are few surviving parents or lots of working children. Usually behind affordability of public policy is the vampire of MMT ... aka we can spend our way to prosperity by printing money (deficit spending) ... in MMT, the government can make everyone wealthy, immediately, if only they weren't evil. In actual fact, we put our grandchildren in the pawn shop.
Seeing the disappointment and disgust in your eyes at the end made me tear up. It‘s all about that green american dream…
There is little doubt that the health care in the United States CAN be the best in the world. If one can afford it.
The fact that so many pharmaceutical companies are corrupt is the biggest issue here.
The other issue is politicians.
the single most frightening thing to me is an American's willingness to justify the unjustifiable, 'for profit' only serves the desires of the corporate machines & promotes self interests, it does nothing for the people which in turn destroys communities. Community in the UK is the heart of our people, without a community spirit things go downhill fast... America is a fine example of this & a large reason for the low opinion people from other countries have about America
"Just give me one positive! Please!"
Well, if you're a shareholder, it's KERCHING!
Oh, not the kind of positive you wanted? Sorry, it's the only one.
I can never understand the price thing. All of the UKs almonds are imported from California yet the cost of almonds in a UK supermarket is less than what almonds cost in Californin stores.
Not just artificial differences in currency exchange. All money, products and services flow through a maze, like the pea under the walnut shell, particularly if medical. Corruption is a real thing that decreases good results.
The store will charge what the market will support. In America, customers will pay double what UK customers will pay. So the price in California can be artificially increased because "in America, profit is good!". In the UK the supermarket would never sell any almonds if they tried to charge UK customers the same as they charge in the US, so they have to charge a realistic price (make a profit, but don't be stupid). That's the same with pharmaceutical companies in the US and the rest of the world. In the US, big pharma can charge what they like for drugs and medication, because the government refuses to get involved in terms of limiting what they can charge, because "in America, profit is good!". In the UK the company would not be allowed to sell their drugs if they tried to charge anything like the same price as they do in the US. So, if they want to sell their drugs in the UK, they sell them at the price that the NHS dictates, not what they dictate. They'll make a profit, but they won't rip the NHS off.
One of the points often missed is that in our NHS system ‘socialised Health care ‘ we can also buy private insurance if we wish. What you then often find is that if there are any serious conditions or operations these are done at NHS facilities by the same doctors who are both employed as NHS consultants AND also work as private doctors.
Swede in the US here,thank Jebus I've got an amazing health insurance.But even with that the health-care here is way below par.
Panic attacks can be a symptom of panic disorder, generalised anxiety disorder, OCD, social anxiety etc. They are by no means considered a minor ailment and your condition would not influence the cost of your ambulance/hospital bill whatsoever. The only way a “minor” ailment will make a difference is that you may be triaged so that you would wait longer for an ambulance or a doctor than a more critical case incident. This is the situation in Australia and I’m fairly sure it’s the same in the UK.
Your reaction and your determination to find some, or any, reason to defend it, is a large part of the problem and partly explains why Americans put up with it. The argument that some supporters of the system are selfish and don't want to pay for other people's healthcare may be true but it's deeply flawed nevertheless. Firstly, they're already doing that with their ridiculously high cost of health insurance and other medical bills, it's just that they're also paying out to subsidise profits for health insurance companies, drug companies and healthcare providers, as well as the sky-high costs of administration in such a system. One third of all healthcare expenditure in the US. More importantly, virtually all Americans would be paying considerably less of their personal budgets on healthcare, under a public healthcare system. Public healthcare systems are cheaper, more efficient and more effective. Nor do you have to avoid seeking healthcare in order to avoid costs, as roughly 50% of Americans admit to doing. A public healthcare system wouldsave Americans a significant amount of money, be more efficient and would be much more effective. It would eliminate financial worries around seeking healthcare or calling an ambulance and would drastically reduce bankruptcies, foreclosures and homelessness and employers would have a healthier workforce. It would also allow Americans to leave jobs they don't like, just because they're worried about losing (inadequate) health insurance. Americans would be healthier, happier and better off with a public healthcare system. Unfortunately you have to be willing to go up against the interests of big business and their bought supporters in Congress, in order to achieve it. It doesn't help that most activists tend to be young, yet the seriousness of the issue only really hits as you get older and healthcare issues become increasingly important, on a personal level. It's not American healthcare that's poor, it's the healthcare system...
They told you that in Canada, for example, you have to wait longer for a doctor's appointment than in the US. But they don't tell you that this calculation in the US only includes those people who could afford a doctor's visit, not those who couldn‘t , out of poverty, and who might have to wait until the day they die.
Connor, I'm afraid it seems that profit is king in the US healthcare system.
The NHS is not perfect, yes there are waiting lists, long ones, in some cases and there is a wait for an Ambulance (That really needs sorting out) but you won't get charged and you won't go bankrupt, even with insurance.
Yes, we pay tax/National Insurance through our working lives, but its still cheaper than the insurance costs.
Feel for you, you're clearly gutted
Regarding extremely long waiting times in hospitals in EU: it's not as simple. I live in Poland, one of the poorer EU countries with lowest healthcare spending. I was in hospital many times (I have asthma and Crohn's disease - I have to visit hospitals every few years). If it's a planned thing that isn't immediately life-threatening - you can wait months and sometimes even years. But when you have an issue that is life-or-death - you get served immediately. And usually you don't know which one it is - you just suddenly feel bad so you go to hospital or call an ambulance and they diagnose you immediately and if it's nothing serious you go back home and wait for months. You pay nothing for ambulance, diagnosis and tests either way, you only pay for drugs (and only part of the price - usually 66% or 33% - government pays the rest from your healthcare taxes). Government negotiates the drug prices with companies and if they don't agree to the government prices then the drug isn't cofinanced by the government - so patients have to pay full price (so it's 2-3 times more expansive for patients so nobody buys it). So the drug companies got incentive to negotiate the price lower with the government. Which means all drugs are less expansive ultimately, even if you have to pay in taxes for 34-67% of the price when you don't need it.
It's because there's one huge customer - the government - so all companies are in worse negotiating position, and in USA there's millions of small customers and dozens of big companies so patients are in worse negotiating position. Economy 101.
And there's also private healthcare that is much more affordable than American one. Average salary is like 750 USD a month and for 50 USD a month you can get private insurance that covers most stuff (MR, USG, tomography, specialist consultation, etc.). It usually doesn't cover surgery and such, but this stuff is covered by public healthcare anyway. Private healthcare is only for people who don't want to wait for months for the non-life-threatening issues.
In some EU countries healthcare works much better than in Poland, but even the way it works in Poland is much better than how it works in America.
I (a German in Germany) had to get my appendix removed. For that procedure I stayed in the hospital for 3 days (tuesday morning until thursday morning). I received an advanced (less invasive) surgery, got the typical bad and basic food, medicine and the final bill received was 30 € as they counted it as 3 days.
Another time i went under general anaestesia because of getting my wisdom teeth removed all at once. As it wasn't necessary to be out cold (technically), i had to pay for the anaestesia but not the procedure. (i believe 150 €) So extras do cost but it it's necessary, you won't lose your house to survive.
If whatever i saw up until now about the US healthcare system is true - the only things you got is the medical research and the will to advance medicine and medical procedures imho.
Sadly these seemingly great things go along with the video you reacted to... more money will be gained by and therefore won't help your system much or at all.
Btw I work part-time (don't want to go full time), get full healthcare benefits and paid vacation (30 days/year). I don't get a lot of money but i won't go into debt either. 1 job is enough.
Additional things: education is mostly free as most are state schools and universities but they are still good. In some places the daycare is for free too. Parental leave for new parents is paid as well for a while.
My daughter also had her appendix removed ... and they didn't use a dirty plastic knife ;-)
@@williambranch4283 right, but i already told them that next time, i'll lend them some of my kitchen knives. They are as good as new!
The German system is great (I live here). The only thing I don't like is the food (same every where I think)...and there's usually some dick in the next bed.
I get anxiety attacks too. I'm in Australia and here the ambulance is free. If I'm having an anxiety attack I'll ring them and let them know that it's probably just a panic attack but they come anyway because the symptoms are almost exactly the same as a heart attack. Usually, as soon as I know the ambo is on the way, the anxiety attack subsides. I then ring them back immediately and let them know it's all good and it was just a panic attack. The first time it happened I apologised and kept saying I was so sorry for being a nuisance. They operator told me not to worry about it at all and that I did the right thing, she said I should always ring them, just in case.
Mate. Been following you for a while now and I'm sorry to say, you really need to take your head from out the sand on this one. There are NO benefits to the US system, yes we have our issues in the UK, but the NHS delivers on what it's meant to. Many of our hospitals are attached to massive research units at Universities, so we do have the best doctors and other healthcare professionals.
I too have anxiety and depression and I work and earn a good salary.... my medication costs me £10 a month. If I was old, a child or unemployed it would be free. I also see nurses and therapists regularly for it and it's free. I have no problem paying taxes in to a system which helps all of us. It's the sign of a civilised society. People like you who actually take an interest in other countries need to take this forward in your own country, then you can claim America is great.
American Hospitals actually charge new parents for holding their babies. What the hell is going on over there? Jesus fucking christ!
They charge a mint for a cotton swab ;-)
I have a feeling because of the way the health care industry is in the US, basically for profit, it's design to want to get people to get sick, that with lobbying can easier translate to other industries like the food industry in lower food standards.
The moment there is money involved, theres a incentive to get more out of the people, so it wouldn't surprise me why its so hard to change the system is because there is a vested interest from many industries in the US to not change that from health care, food standards, workers rights and so on.
A universal health care puts the cost of burden on everyone, all of a sudden, there is a big incentive for the people and government to look after the well-being of it's people to lower cost to the health care system and that's probably a big part in why standards are so much higher in the EU over the US in many areas.
The real problem in the end is capitalism it's self, in the US, it's more or less the wild west whereas other modern countries and especially EU ones, capitalism is contained by big governments, so we have more or less the same benefits of capitalism without letting capitalism run wild like they have in the US.
Why would a company that makes money from treating people want them healthy?
Lawyers love people to have legal problems too. The original middle class (lawyers and doctors) are parasitic.
mate, you got the summary right. When a country remains divided, hating the other side, well ------ You get what you get.
What if hatred is justified?
@@williambranch4283 No Hatred is justifed. Hatred just breeds more hatred. Dont like some-body, why cant you ignor them. The good of the community overrides ones personal beliefs.
@@grahamsanders9970 Not on topic ... will you kiss Hitler for me? Good of der Volk overrides your religion? Some people can't be ignored (though that is a good general plan).
My son had an epileptic attack in Roseville, CA with our PPO the bill from ambulance and 3 hours in emergency was $6,000. Six months later, he had the same attack in small village in Northern Spain named Arriondas, he had the ambulance available (We didn't use it), he was there for 6 hours and they run all kinds of tests and he described the treatment as first class. Contrary that in Sacramento that they asked us for the insurance card, coverage, deductibles, in Spain no one question was asked. When I asked how much was the bill, the doctor replied "You are a Spanish citizen and don't need to pay anything, safe your money for your treatment in the States".
Don’t think you understand, you’ll Americans 10% of your tax goes towards health care in the uk 4.5% of our tax go towards health care and we get healthcare free and Americans still have to extortionate amounts
All that military isn't free.
@@williambranch4283 I never said it was free. In the uk 2% of our tax go towards defence in USA 20% of tax go towards defence 😳 they prioritise destroying other peoples countries over healthcare for there own people 😂
With the NHS if you have an ingrown toenail you'll maybe have to wait but if you have a heart attack or something serious you'll be seen immediately.
In the UK, we want our hospitals empty. In the USA, they need theirs full.
(for now at least)
The same goes for prisons.😅
The US has the money to have the best affordable care in the world, it's just such a crying shame. That said, if people aren't interested & there is no political will to enact it there isn't much that can be done.
Correct about the money, but even if we put 100% into medical care and deleted the military, insurance and pharma would eat all of it.
So true. "If people are not interested in politics, you get politicians who are not interested in people".
@@lbergen001 Elite theory + Machiavelli says no.
@@williambranch4283 what do you mean. I don't understand your comment.
@@lbergen001 Democracy is about manufacturing consent. Just another tool that organized crime (political parties) can use to continue their crimes with impunity. In ancient Athens you had a semi-random group of citizens participate in direct politics every day, why did it fail? Politics preferentially attracts sociopaths ... for the same reason any other criminal activity does.
Nice one Connor 👍 you asked about good doctors , good doctors make decisions on what's best to help a patient but in America the cost effects whats best for the patient
I am British and each and every day I say a silent prayer of thank you to our wonderful NHS (National Health Service), as because of having a bad heart I am on a string of tablets four different ones which I get free of charge on my prescription and if I were to have to pay for these under the American system I would have been in my coffin long ago, through not being able to pay for my medication. I only recently had a stay in hospital where I received wonderful health care all free of charge.
Here is the thing you wanted, Connor...
US Healthcare, where it is best which is usually at the top hospitals, is the most likely at the top healthcare in the world. But those hospitals usually only treat the very wealthy, from both US and abroad. Those hospitals us super high tech (probably cutting edge...) and have possibly among the best doctors in the world. And the wealthy don't care if the cost is 550.000 or 750.000 to have their cancer cured or whatever alement they need to cure.
The problem is that the broad public doesn't benefit from these great tech and awesome doctors. And they are scared to go to the hospital unless they reeeeeeeaaaally need it in fear of medical debt.
Unless you positively embrace mortality, you will sell your soul when sick or injured.
The issue, as with so many other problems in the US (like gun control) is the method of funding of Politicians and Political Parties.
The elected representatives don't represent the people that elected them, they represent the special interest groups and big business that pay for their campaigns and offer them hefty fees.
Change the law relating to company political contributions and suddenly so many of America's issues will start to resolve themselves. Bills will be passed to make life better, more protected and safer.
SCOTUS (in Citizens United) rules that corporations are super-beings with fair political involvement.
Do you think that the money you pay your insurance company is put aside just for you when you may need it. At least when it is taken in taxes it goes to the treasury for them to decide where their revenue is spent. Be it Defence, health care or education. Here in the UK I needed to see my doctor just last week. I got an appointment on the same day and an MRI scan two days later. It cost me nothing.
Hi Connor, You do understand that Medical Insurance (all Insurance) means that you pay for other peoples issues (because they pay for yours). Why are you happy to pay an insurance company that covers someone in Virginia (etc)?
The one positive thing in the US medical system is that if you have enough money you can get treatment faster. I cant think of anything else positive but that.
Correct, that is why many dentists are going cash only, they don't take any insurance plan.
You're very sincere in your reaction. I don't think we would agree on everything, but I like the way you think things through and how you're willing to adapt to facts.
One positive thing: it generates profit. It's really as simple as that. And there is one benefit - a lot of money can go into research, so the medical research is better funded than in most other countries. Because that generates new drugs, with new patents, that can then be billed at high rates. One challenge is that since the money goes via the insurance companies, and there are no limits (like in many European countries) what pharma can charge for drugs, the prices go up, up, up. In theory, insurance will cover it, and everyone with an insurance will help pay. In reality, a lot of people remain uninsured and don't go to a doctor when they're ill - they can't afford to. Or can't even buy medications that are needed. To me, having lived and studied in the US, it is one of the most strange designs of a nation. If it isn't a national interest to have a healthy population, what good is the nation at all? If it isn't a national interest to have a well-educated population, what good is a nation at all? These two are the most strangely fundamental flaws in the design of an American system.
you really should consider a livestream video some time in the future so that you can get instant feedback when you have questions on a video reaction. you have a pretty decent community here who watch your videos
Pfizer has just been fined $millions in the UK for overcharging on Phenytoin drug [for epilepsy]. They increased the price by 2k% [or something like that] in one year.
You have a very BAD system [speaking as a former senior nurse of 26 years], but my country's getting bad too with waiting times and PC'ness.
Every politician gets his cut, not just the current President.
Nobody in the UK is uninsured, if you pay National Insurance (NI) by working. If you are on welfare, they still pay a basic rate of NI, which entitles them to free healthcare. People on pensions no longer pay NI, but they too get free healthcare. Prescriptions are not free (unless over 60 or on welfare, or pregnant), but it is a small admin fee, that does not pay for the medication. Dentists are not free to visit, but are subsidised and treatment can be very expensive for some.
The NHS may not be perfect, but it is admired around the world, as a top class way of running healthcare.
You can have health insurance here if you wish, or it is a perk of work, choosing a private consultation to get a quick decision, but still get an operation on the NHS. Making a profit out of sick people is just not morally right.
So if you do not get sick in the USA, presumably you are not a good citizen?
I think you have been rather complacent about the state of your country Connor. You are collectively suffering from a serious condition, under-regulated capitalism. Profit is the only morality your government, and it seems most of your population, recognise.
The fact that you have been in hospital only once in your lifetime sais it all
Connor. Its that bad! Stop defending it!
About caring about others. I care about myself. And to stay healthy i have to be surrounded by healthy people. I want my bus or train driver healthy, the cashier who touches my food, the random guy who used the shopping cart before me, who sat on the seat before i sat there, who walks by me in the shopping center, who's driving behind me and so on. It's much cheaper than paying all the people disinfecting everything before I'm near it and always looking for people distracted by their illness who could harm me by accident.
YOU LIVE IN YOUR OWN BUBBLE
Just to understand how had the US healthcare system is we now have Americans getting on planes to European countries getting the care that they need and fly back and it would still cost less less than $200. And that's on a Vacation Visa if they were a citizen they wouldn't be paying that
Europeans should not allow medical tourists!
Sorry to say this to you Connor but I don't see America as a 1st world country, not 3rd I see it as a 2nd world country as it has the wealth and ability to care, enrich and protect its people but doesn't. Its politics is toxic and I'm also sorry to say that the UK is starting to drift towards America in the 2nd world category.
The UK is not perfect, our politics is fucked are education system is flawed and the NHS is crumbling but the government does nothing
my father in law went see the doctor about a possible water infection. They gave him antibiotics straightaway.. After the dose had finished he still had discomfort so saw the doctor again a week later. They tested him for Prostate cancer and it was borderline so within a couple of days he was with a specialist to be scanned. He was OK but the system is set for any cancer diagnosis being established within 14 days. He was through that process in less than 10 days. The waiting times people talk about with the NHS is elective or non urgent cases. I have a snapped AC ligament on my collarbone which is 100% elective and the treatment is not 100% sure to fix it so I decided to not have the surgery as I was told I WOULD lose some motion and if I wanted to get it done in the future just see the GP and go back into the system and I can get it done at any point. The NHS is just brilliant in almost every example I have seen with my mums, sisters and brothers cancer's My brothers Rheumatoid arthritis and his Parkinsons etc (he was a mess to be honest) My dad , who had been a coal miner and his lung problems that they helped with until he died at 91 years old!! The NHS did so much for him that he lived until 91 years old!!!
American healthcare is like a free game "P2W" (pay to win) but more "pay to live" whose prices rise exponentially for the best treatments.
And in EU and some other country, you have to buy the game via taxes but it's "F2P" (free to play) so "free to live" for everyone no matter how poor they are. And often have a lot tax reductions or no taxe for this.