Nice video! I was TD (Technical Director) for a live venue where we used 8 live cameras and some HyperDecks output to 12 tv-screens and a projector - in the bar - On the stage and also in the left and right walls of the venue. What we ended up with was one of those Smart VideoHubs, that have 20x20 where you can connect 20 SDI input sources and rout them to whater of the 20 SDI output you want. Its a lifesaver when dealing with multiple screens and also it solves your Multiview "problem" so you dont need to use your in/out on the mixer itself. For ME2 I would think the 20x20 (They also have 12x12 and 40x40) would be a perfect match as you can input every 14 outputs from the switch into the VideoHubs input and still have 6 extra input to spare )) For the average viewer I will also mention if you use HyperDeck for videoplayback and connect it to the atem network, you can configure it (In the ATEM software for MAC/PC) to start playback automatic the instant you put the input live, saving you the hassle of starting the clip and then bring it live. It will do it for you at the instant you push either mix or cut. You will also specify the exact clip that will be played back in the menu. Witch can also be pre programmed using the macro functions should you need to change the clip that is played multiple times during a live show using multiple macros. One for ever clip))
I appreciate the honesty and completeness. Especially including the pricing. Yes, you didn't provide the entire setup, but it gives an idea of, what each module costs or can cost.
Thx for actually putting prices rather than just hours. Cuz each tech person is different hourly. You’ve inspired me on events that I’m doing soon. Alas my clients are paying for one or two techs. So techs have to be super good at all parts. The pre-planning charge is one most of us don’t charge enough for. We forget how much time spend on emails and tel calls. Thx
Thank you so much for including your pricing. To many people think you shouldn't talk about pricing which doesn't make sense to me when the conference/client probably knows what your competitors charge because they have shopped around.
Thanks for watching. The pricing will adjust from conference to conference and the important thing to note is that this event had an AV company supplying staging, pipe and drape, lights, etc. so a lot of these expenses were things that I could have billed for and brought my own vendors (and take some off the top) but I didn't for this one since the AV company brought us on for the streaming side.
Big thanks for your price breakdown. It seems so many are not willing to be transparent and this helps us all make plans for the future. Enjoyed it was broken down as per the cost of the positions and not just one hourly rate.
Thank you for making this video and especially including the pricing. Contrary to other poster, I was surprised at how low your prices are compared to my environment. I find all your responses very relatable, reasonable and helpful. You share your experiences very generously.
Very nice that you explain the whole pre-production process and pricing. We do things similar, but with slightly smaller events. I hope you are able to share a behind the scenes from the event as well.
It's going to be a very busy event for this one so we may not have the time to cover behind the scenes on site. We're partnering with some very large institutions and TV networks to provide streams to them as well so it'll be an all hands on deck kind of day. But if possible I might get a quick video on site during the setup day.
are you familiar with pro presenter 7? Would that program eliminate the usage of all those different computers? you can play videos from it, countdowns, slides, ect..
Great question - I actually use Mitti for video playbacks and full screen graphics. It’s very similar. But we still use a lot of computers for bringing in client PowerPoints that come in last minute, supplying presenter view to confidence monitors and for bringing in zoom virtual guests. Unfortunately PP wouldn’t do that for us.
Great question. I typically rent my fiber from a colleague since I don’t use it frequently but I’m sure there are tons of videos on it! The AJA and Blackmagic fiber converters are nice. I also like the Camplex converters.
Great video. Pack with tons of worthwhile information. Just wondering what cameras you are using for this project and why you went with the 1ME panel vs the 2ME advanced panel. Just price? Thanks
I went with the 2ME because the 1ME doesn't have supersource and to have a few additional outputs. The cameras I usually use are Canon XA55, Canon C70, Canon C200 and Canon CR-N300 PTZ cameras.
Re mix minus, due to a magic smoke drama, I now use left and right channels to same effect and is easy to explain to people etc remotely. the magic smoke escaped from a mixer minutes before an event that forced a change, that im now doing for all events. Basically only had a dumb mixer, but to get a mix minus effect I had the room speakers connected to the "Left" output, and Blackmagic web presentor connected to right output. As none of my events basically ever consume content in stereo have accepted way easier to just do it as mono going forward. So local microphones, media PC, NDI outputs etc are "center" on mix, but feed for zoom PC is 100% left etc.
@@cspictures788 I would conduct a site survey in advance of the event, discover that there is no internet and simply not give them that option with that particular venue. I hold a certain level of quality that I require for the events I work and I don't want to put myself in a jeopardized scenario where I'm relying on a hotspot or similar. I can't guarantee it will work on event day once they pack hundreds of people in the room all with cell phones connecting to local towers. At that point maybe you could explore using Starlink but I simply wouldn't risk it and just tell the client it's not a good idea. We'd work with them to pre-record anything and play it back live in person.
Tha t’s great thanks for the video. I’ve stopped doing mix minus to the zoom call, so long as you take audio in and out of the same machine Zoom does a good job of mix minus and can simplify the routing.
You always want to have a back up machine for at least your Playback and stream machines. How you routed your MV gives you some nice flexibility but unless your planning on having to change where sending the feed i would just use a DA. I can't remember if its Mitti or Millumin that has a built in timer that you can use. I would never risk sending any video feed wirelessly regardless of how unlikely it is to have a problem, run the copper and know your good. I like watching your videos. Glad to see your getting bigger gigs.
excellent as usual. only one thing i don't get, about you r zoom setup. ii have the similar req for most events and i use extreme iso ( hdmi) for the show. take usb c out for stream and stream through streamyard. don't know why you would need web presenter and why you are connecting the zoom the way you did. may be i am not seeing or understanding the benefit. I am sure there is a reason you are doing this way. would you mind to explain it better please. thanks for the video and for explaining the pricing. my customers are lot more cheaper than yours though :(
We use the web presenter for the return feed to the guest we’ve brought in through zoom. The usb-c out is to our livestream destination when zoom is not our final destination.
Hi Zephan, why do you need to route your 2 MV? If you use a huge screen to display your MV you can use à 4 multiView (from BMD), using the 1 & 3 for multiview, anec 2 & 4 IN for preview other sources). :-) Have fun, I'd like to see the final prod...
I'm using Constellation 8K, COnstellation 2ME and Atem Mini for my prod. For your record, it's easier to use an Atem Mini pro to resend a feed to zoom...
By routing multiview back into the atem I can now feed it to any of my 12 outputs. So I send it first to the two smaller screens built into my rack case which my techs at the back table may use for monitoring the show (I’m going to have a zoom tech pinning speakers and a video playback tech managing videos and countdown timers) so it’s one more multiview screen for my team to be able to see and then typically the multiview for ME1 is routed to my 21” multiview monitor that I use predominantly for switching. But I’ve also had times where we have a tech back stage that wants to see the multiview so in order to feed that to them I would need another multiview output. You cannot route multiview to any of the 12 assignable outputs on the constellation 2ME so you must feed multiview into the atem first as an input.
This couldn’t be pulled off with one person. But I have built a network over the years of local people I trust and hire for bigger events like this. I also run a network of over 9,000 video professionals on Facebook called Videographers Connect and it’s an easy place to find people.
Ha might have to get my audio guy in for that one. I hire out audio engineers for my livestreams so I can focus on what I do best. Mix minus is very simple if you have an audio mixer that can provide auxiliary outputs so it’s gotta be a digital mixer. It’s simply having one mix for your livestream with all of the audio in it and a separate mix going to your virtual guest that doesn’t include their own audio. Otherwise they’d hear themselves. You want them to hear everyone else speaking, just not their own voice.
I rarely leave comments on videos, especially negative ones. Maybe I'm missing something or not understanding the situation. However, I feel compelled to say that I find the pricing you shared to be absolutely ridiculous. $15k for a one-day, two-cam conference with one Zoom channel? Maybe the pricing is just very different from where I am to where you are, but I would've done the same project for 1/3 that price and been thrilled. It's really frustrating to see other production companies souring the market with overpricing like this. I guess kudos to you for convincing someone to pay that much but man - I found this to be super disappointing.
One could flip the script and say it’s really discouraging to see people underpricing and undervaluing what they bring to the table. People that undercharge are undercutting the professionals that put on a high quality event. There are companies that would charge 3-5X what I’m charging. My prices are in line with industry standards for what we’re bringing to the table. You may see it as just “two-cam conference with one Zoom” I see it as hours upon hours of planning and consulting to make the event run smoothly (billable time), multiple crew members from camera ops to video playback to lighting to audio technicians running a mixer to audio technicians to put mics on the talent, stagehands and floor directors to make sure everyone gets up on stage at the right time, time for loading up equipment and traveling sometimes hours or even days to the venue. I can see how it can be discouraging to see others charging far more than you might be doing but it is truthfully based on the value and expertise (and team) we’re bringing to the table. I like to think of it like this: if you want a cheeseburger you could go to McDonald’s and spend what? $5? Or you could go to a Michelin star restaurant and spend hundreds. Then there’s everything in between. With one experience (the cheaper one) you’re more likely to deal with someone making $12 an hour who might drop your burger on the floor and still put it back on the plate. With the other you might have a chef flying in Waygu beef from Japan costing thousands of dollars per pound. Then there’s everything in between. Our prices fall in that middle ground. We’re not the cheapest and we’re not Michelin star. But we’re going to provide a white glove service product every time and we charge accordingly with others in the industry that are providing the same results. There’s always going to be someone out there who can do it cheaper. Is it a better experience? Rarely. Not all clients make their buying decisions solely on price. The clients we work with have already made the decision that they want to work with us due to our large network of referral partners and past clients who trust us. It’s just a matter of determining in what way will they work with us.
I also wanted to add this conference I shared with you was a massive financial conference that partnered with major organizations that spent big money to make it happen. When you’re bringing a crew of people, you’re working with a whole new level of money in the events and conference space. We provided live feeds to major news outlets and television stations. It’s more than just a livestream. We had at least three broadcasts depending on our cameras, our graphics, our video playbacks and our whole team to stream to places like Bloomberg, MSNBC and more. You mostly won’t see those companies talk about pricing like this on RUclips. That’s why I share it. This industry can pay handsomely and can really provide you with a lifestyle you never thought was achievable and clients are happy to pay our prices. They deem them fair and competitive. We’re located on the east coast of the US but travel throughout the country. I’ve seen prices multiple times what we charge both in central and western US. With that said, I get it. It’s discouraging to see that you could be making a lot more. Sounds like it’s a good time to invest in learning how to sell, building a team so you can provide a higher quality end product (and end result for the client) and continuing to build a network of people that can refer higher end projects to you.
@@zephanmoses Fair enough. I do appreciate that you shared pricing and agree that not many other companies do so. The market is probably very different in DC than St. Louis, MO, where I am. Still - I'm certainly not an 'expert' but I'm at the point in my business where I'd put my team and our expertise up against anyone. We could deliver a professional, high-quality end product and do so for much less. We're not Michelin-starred either but we're far from McDonald's. I suppose I'm thinking of the number of opportunities we miss because potential clients assume professional event production always requires a huge budget, and therefore won't even entertain the thought of hiring a production company. It's hard to sell a service when most potential clients assume it's way out of their price range. I feel like our industry has a bad rap for being too expensive and this seems to reinforce that to me. But again, I'm sure the market is very different geographically.
@@AaronKothe it’s a pretty common misconception that it changes geographically. My team has traveled with me from NY to Orlando to Raleigh NC to San Francisco, all the way to Ames Iowa and yes we’ve travelled to MO for work too. The pricing has been widely accepted across the board. If you’re into reading I recommend reading Dan Kennedy’s Wealth Attraction but fair warning you’ll probably feel uncomfortable for a bit if your mind isn’t open to the ideas. While you won’t win every single bid, we’ve seen that the price isn’t the major factor here. It’s about can you show the client the value in what you bring to the table? Sales can be slimy or it can be easy. Our sales conversations focus around the client’s end result. It’s not about doing it for less. You’re robbing yourself of success when you don’t charge your worth and it slows your ability to grow your company.
They are day rates when I bill them to the client so on the final invoice it's shown as a date rate. I'm just breaking down the hourly pricing to show the difference in what we charge per position. For example a camera op we charge $125/hr and might pay $75-90/hr and a production assistant we might charge $100/hr but pay $35-50/hr. Just trying to show people where it all comes from but yes we'd be doing usually a 5-hour half day or 10-hour full day rate in the end.
Nice video! I was TD (Technical Director) for a live venue where we used 8 live cameras and some HyperDecks output to 12 tv-screens and a projector - in the bar - On the stage and also in the left and right walls of the venue. What we ended up with was one of those Smart VideoHubs, that have 20x20 where you can connect 20 SDI input sources and rout them to whater of the 20 SDI output you want. Its a lifesaver when dealing with multiple screens and also it solves your Multiview "problem" so you dont need to use your in/out on the mixer itself. For ME2 I would think the 20x20 (They also have 12x12 and 40x40) would be a perfect match as you can input every 14 outputs from the switch into the VideoHubs input and still have 6 extra input to spare ))
For the average viewer I will also mention if you use HyperDeck for videoplayback and connect it to the atem network, you can configure it (In the ATEM software for MAC/PC) to start playback automatic the instant you put the input live, saving you the hassle of starting the clip and then bring it live. It will do it for you at the instant you push either mix or cut. You will also specify the exact clip that will be played back in the menu. Witch can also be pre programmed using the macro functions should you need to change the clip that is played multiple times during a live show using multiple macros. One for ever clip))
I appreciate the honesty and completeness. Especially including the pricing. Yes, you didn't provide the entire setup, but it gives an idea of, what each module costs or can cost.
Thx for actually putting prices rather than just hours. Cuz each tech person is different hourly. You’ve inspired me on events that I’m doing soon. Alas my clients are paying for one or two techs. So techs have to be super good at all parts. The pre-planning charge is one most of us don’t charge enough for. We forget how much time spend on emails and tel calls. Thx
Thank you so much for including your pricing. To many people think you shouldn't talk about pricing which doesn't make sense to me when the conference/client probably knows what your competitors charge because they have shopped around.
Thanks for watching. The pricing will adjust from conference to conference and the important thing to note is that this event had an AV company supplying staging, pipe and drape, lights, etc. so a lot of these expenses were things that I could have billed for and brought my own vendors (and take some off the top) but I didn't for this one since the AV company brought us on for the streaming side.
Big thanks for your price breakdown. It seems so many are not willing to be transparent and this helps us all make plans for the future. Enjoyed it was broken down as per the cost of the positions and not just one hourly rate.
Glad you enjoyed that! I've got a pricing calculator (linked below the video) with a training you can download if you're interested. Hope that helps!
Thank you for making this video and especially including the pricing. Contrary to other poster, I was surprised at how low your prices are compared to my environment. I find all your responses very relatable, reasonable and helpful. You share your experiences very generously.
Very nice that you explain the whole pre-production process and pricing. We do things similar, but with slightly smaller events. I hope you are able to share a behind the scenes from the event as well.
It's going to be a very busy event for this one so we may not have the time to cover behind the scenes on site. We're partnering with some very large institutions and TV networks to provide streams to them as well so it'll be an all hands on deck kind of day. But if possible I might get a quick video on site during the setup day.
Excellent video. Thanks! How did you do the ISO recordings from each camera/source and share the RAW footage? 2ME does not have ISO option.
You can’t do ISO records with a 2ME
@@zephanmoses understood. Any similar options with this unit? Would it be 1 recorder per channel.
@@fkmobile1 the atem SDI Extreme iso is as close as you’ll get.
@@zephanmoses depending on what cameras your using you can record at each camera .
Thanks for talking pricing. Super helpful!
Glad that helps!
are you familiar with pro presenter 7? Would that program eliminate the usage of all those different computers? you can play videos from it, countdowns, slides, ect..
Great question - I actually use Mitti for video playbacks and full screen graphics. It’s very similar. But we still use a lot of computers for bringing in client PowerPoints that come in last minute, supplying presenter view to confidence monitors and for bringing in zoom virtual guests. Unfortunately PP wouldn’t do that for us.
Very Helpful, Thank You, 👍🏻✌🏻
Where can I find info on the fiber converter tech? Great walk through!
Great question. I typically rent my fiber from a colleague since I don’t use it frequently but I’m sure there are tons of videos on it! The AJA and Blackmagic fiber converters are nice. I also like the Camplex converters.
Great video. Pack with tons of worthwhile information. Just wondering what cameras you are using for this project and why you went with the 1ME panel vs the 2ME advanced panel. Just price? Thanks
I went with the 2ME because the 1ME doesn't have supersource and to have a few additional outputs. The cameras I usually use are Canon XA55, Canon C70, Canon C200 and Canon CR-N300 PTZ cameras.
fantastic… at time stamp 9.33 can you tell us about the midi app please
imimot.com/mitti/
Bravo Zephan!
Zephan, great video!!!
Thanks for watching!
Re mix minus, due to a magic smoke drama, I now use left and right channels to same effect and is easy to explain to people etc remotely. the magic smoke escaped from a mixer minutes before an event that forced a change, that im now doing for all events.
Basically only had a dumb mixer, but to get a mix minus effect I had the room speakers connected to the "Left" output, and Blackmagic web presentor connected to right output.
As none of my events basically ever consume content in stereo have accepted way easier to just do it as mono going forward.
So local microphones, media PC, NDI outputs etc are "center" on mix, but feed for zoom PC is 100% left etc.
what is your gear network set up if there is no good internet connection in the hall? thnx a lot...great job by the way!!!!
I use a LiveU Solo bonding encoder that can bond two cellular connections, one wired ethernet and one wifi connection.
@@zephanmoses what about if there is need of making zoom calls etc how you connect those "zoom laptops" with internet access?
@@cspictures788 I would conduct a site survey in advance of the event, discover that there is no internet and simply not give them that option with that particular venue. I hold a certain level of quality that I require for the events I work and I don't want to put myself in a jeopardized scenario where I'm relying on a hotspot or similar. I can't guarantee it will work on event day once they pack hundreds of people in the room all with cell phones connecting to local towers. At that point maybe you could explore using Starlink but I simply wouldn't risk it and just tell the client it's not a good idea. We'd work with them to pre-record anything and play it back live in person.
Tha t’s great thanks for the video.
I’ve stopped doing mix minus to the zoom call, so long as you take audio in and out of the same machine Zoom does a good job of mix minus and can simplify the routing.
We don’t use the same machine because we often are not streaming to zoom as the final destination so that wouldn’t work.
You always want to have a back up machine for at least your Playback and stream machines. How you routed your MV gives you some nice flexibility but unless your planning on having to change where sending the feed i would just use a DA. I can't remember if its Mitti or Millumin that has a built in timer that you can use. I would never risk sending any video feed wirelessly regardless of how unlikely it is to have a problem, run the copper and know your good. I like watching your videos. Glad to see your getting bigger gigs.
Thanks for watching!
excellent as usual. only one thing i don't get, about you r zoom setup. ii have the similar req for most events and i use extreme iso ( hdmi) for the show. take usb c out for stream and stream through streamyard. don't know why you would need web presenter and why you are connecting the zoom the way you did. may be i am not seeing or understanding the benefit. I am sure there is a reason you are doing this way. would you mind to explain it better please. thanks for the video and for explaining the pricing. my customers are lot more cheaper than yours though :(
We use the web presenter for the return feed to the guest we’ve brought in through zoom. The usb-c out is to our livestream destination when zoom is not our final destination.
Hi Zephan, why do you need to route your 2 MV? If you use a huge screen to display your MV you can use à 4 multiView (from BMD), using the 1 & 3 for multiview, anec 2 & 4 IN for preview other sources). :-) Have fun, I'd like to see the final prod...
I'm using Constellation 8K, COnstellation 2ME and Atem Mini for my prod. For your record, it's easier to use an Atem Mini pro to resend a feed to zoom...
By routing multiview back into the atem I can now feed it to any of my 12 outputs. So I send it first to the two smaller screens built into my rack case which my techs at the back table may use for monitoring the show (I’m going to have a zoom tech pinning speakers and a video playback tech managing videos and countdown timers) so it’s one more multiview screen for my team to be able to see and then typically the multiview for ME1 is routed to my 21” multiview monitor that I use predominantly for switching. But I’ve also had times where we have a tech back stage that wants to see the multiview so in order to feed that to them I would need another multiview output. You cannot route multiview to any of the 12 assignable outputs on the constellation 2ME so you must feed multiview into the atem first as an input.
What if you’re a one man band, this seems a bit much. Where are you posting the help needed for an event of this magnitude? Staff me up ?
This couldn’t be pulled off with one person. But I have built a network over the years of local people I trust and hire for bigger events like this. I also run a network of over 9,000 video professionals on Facebook called Videographers Connect and it’s an easy place to find people.
Mix Minus Audio - needs a separate topic !! If possible please do one exclusively for it
Ha might have to get my audio guy in for that one. I hire out audio engineers for my livestreams so I can focus on what I do best. Mix minus is very simple if you have an audio mixer that can provide auxiliary outputs so it’s gotta be a digital mixer.
It’s simply having one mix for your livestream with all of the audio in it and a separate mix going to your virtual guest that doesn’t include their own audio. Otherwise they’d hear themselves. You want them to hear everyone else speaking, just not their own voice.
I rarely leave comments on videos, especially negative ones. Maybe I'm missing something or not understanding the situation. However, I feel compelled to say that I find the pricing you shared to be absolutely ridiculous. $15k for a one-day, two-cam conference with one Zoom channel? Maybe the pricing is just very different from where I am to where you are, but I would've done the same project for 1/3 that price and been thrilled. It's really frustrating to see other production companies souring the market with overpricing like this. I guess kudos to you for convincing someone to pay that much but man - I found this to be super disappointing.
One could flip the script and say it’s really discouraging to see people underpricing and undervaluing what they bring to the table. People that undercharge are undercutting the professionals that put on a high quality event. There are companies that would charge 3-5X what I’m charging. My prices are in line with industry standards for what we’re bringing to the table. You may see it as just “two-cam conference with one Zoom” I see it as hours upon hours of planning and consulting to make the event run smoothly (billable time), multiple crew members from camera ops to video playback to lighting to audio technicians running a mixer to audio technicians to put mics on the talent, stagehands and floor directors to make sure everyone gets up on stage at the right time, time for loading up equipment and traveling sometimes hours or even days to the venue.
I can see how it can be discouraging to see others charging far more than you might be doing but it is truthfully based on the value and expertise (and team) we’re bringing to the table.
I like to think of it like this: if you want a cheeseburger you could go to McDonald’s and spend what? $5? Or you could go to a Michelin star restaurant and spend hundreds. Then there’s everything in between. With one experience (the cheaper one) you’re more likely to deal with someone making $12 an hour who might drop your burger on the floor and still put it back on the plate. With the other you might have a chef flying in Waygu beef from Japan costing thousands of dollars per pound. Then there’s everything in between. Our prices fall in that middle ground. We’re not the cheapest and we’re not Michelin star. But we’re going to provide a white glove service product every time and we charge accordingly with others in the industry that are providing the same results.
There’s always going to be someone out there who can do it cheaper. Is it a better experience? Rarely. Not all clients make their buying decisions solely on price. The clients we work with have already made the decision that they want to work with us due to our large network of referral partners and past clients who trust us. It’s just a matter of determining in what way will they work with us.
I also wanted to add this conference I shared with you was a massive financial conference that partnered with major organizations that spent big money to make it happen. When you’re bringing a crew of people, you’re working with a whole new level of money in the events and conference space.
We provided live feeds to major news outlets and television stations. It’s more than just a livestream. We had at least three broadcasts depending on our cameras, our graphics, our video playbacks and our whole team to stream to places like Bloomberg, MSNBC and more.
You mostly won’t see those companies talk about pricing like this on RUclips. That’s why I share it. This industry can pay handsomely and can really provide you with a lifestyle you never thought was achievable and clients are happy to pay our prices. They deem them fair and competitive. We’re located on the east coast of the US but travel throughout the country. I’ve seen prices multiple times what we charge both in central and western US.
With that said, I get it. It’s discouraging to see that you could be making a lot more. Sounds like it’s a good time to invest in learning how to sell, building a team so you can provide a higher quality end product (and end result for the client) and continuing to build a network of people that can refer higher end projects to you.
@@zephanmoses Fair enough. I do appreciate that you shared pricing and agree that not many other companies do so.
The market is probably very different in DC than St. Louis, MO, where I am. Still - I'm certainly not an 'expert' but I'm at the point in my business where I'd put my team and our expertise up against anyone. We could deliver a professional, high-quality end product and do so for much less. We're not Michelin-starred either but we're far from McDonald's.
I suppose I'm thinking of the number of opportunities we miss because potential clients assume professional event production always requires a huge budget, and therefore won't even entertain the thought of hiring a production company. It's hard to sell a service when most potential clients assume it's way out of their price range. I feel like our industry has a bad rap for being too expensive and this seems to reinforce that to me. But again, I'm sure the market is very different geographically.
@@AaronKothe it’s a pretty common misconception that it changes geographically. My team has traveled with me from NY to Orlando to Raleigh NC to San Francisco, all the way to Ames Iowa and yes we’ve travelled to MO for work too. The pricing has been widely accepted across the board. If you’re into reading I recommend reading Dan Kennedy’s Wealth Attraction but fair warning you’ll probably feel uncomfortable for a bit if your mind isn’t open to the ideas.
While you won’t win every single bid, we’ve seen that the price isn’t the major factor here. It’s about can you show the client the value in what you bring to the table? Sales can be slimy or it can be easy. Our sales conversations focus around the client’s end result. It’s not about doing it for less. You’re robbing yourself of success when you don’t charge your worth and it slows your ability to grow your company.
Not using day rates for labor?
They are day rates when I bill them to the client so on the final invoice it's shown as a date rate. I'm just breaking down the hourly pricing to show the difference in what we charge per position. For example a camera op we charge $125/hr and might pay $75-90/hr and a production assistant we might charge $100/hr but pay $35-50/hr. Just trying to show people where it all comes from but yes we'd be doing usually a 5-hour half day or 10-hour full day rate in the end.
@@zephanmoses Roger that, thanks.