THE ANTHOLOGY REACTION | Taylor Swift - Tortured Poets Department
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Ah, I swear everyone misses the word 'decade' in Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus. It's about watching someone you love descend into addiction while you move on with life. She goes over everything she's done in the last 10 years since they initially met and fell for each other(perhaps described in maroon?) And describes all the things she changed, all while watching his addiction get worse. By the time they finally reconnect they're too changed by time, he's turned her into an idea, manic pixie dream girl style, and that's why saying "i loved you the way that you were" would hurt most. Maybe if she hadn't been too young to know what to do to help him, they might have worked out and avoided all the pain on both sides. You always wonder.
An addictive personality? He would have to really want help. He doesn't seem like a family man, but I'm probably wrong.
This! Exactly ♥️🙏🏻✨
Though he still drinks some alcohol and smokes marijuana,to my knowledge, he has been clean of hard drugs for 5 years. He mentioned the anniversary at a concert last year. Matty speaks very openly about his history of addiction in interviews. You should listen to him talk about it. His interview with Zane Lowe in 2022 is especially good. He also mentions Peter Pan and the lost boys in that interview.
@@ssalas7374 yeah that's what I found when I looked it up. I didn't know anything about him cause I don't really follow celebrity personal stuff, but I'm a therapist and heard on my first listen all the hallmarks of leaving an addict and wondering if you could've helped them if you stayed. No one seemed to pick up on it though so I checked and found a lot of info he's shared about his addiction and going into rehab in 2017. Also found the info that they met around 2014, so from the album context it looks like they fell for each other back when she was trying to be very private about her love life and they had a short fling (perhaps for a fortnight described in maroon?) but Taylor was too young to help and saw him going in a direction she wanted nothing to do with. So whatever they had was put on pause indefinitely while she moved on, but she watched him go through all this from afar until Jack reintroduced them post rehab. It makes so much sense why they went so head over heels for each other once she ended things with Joe. Considering the pills line in smwel, I don't know if he relapsed but I think it's more likely he doesn't consider certain 'party drugs' off limits. Maybe he's said before, I'm just going off basic info and what I've seen in the lyrics. Either way, I assume from all the songs that by the time they reconnected they were completely different people who wanted completely different things, but it had to hurt if it's something she's thought about for 10 years.
To me it feels a lot like this song is about Joe and the "decade" line refers to them together for a long time or what feels like a very long time, and the drugs either refers to anti-depressants or is just an insertion about Matty in a song about Joe
Robin is the name of Aaron's kid, and he wrote it with Taylor 🥺 It's about how adults will hide the worst parts of the world from children for as long as they can because they love them and want them to believe the world is good (in sweetness)
It’s also Blake Livelys sisters’ name, and there’s a chance their 4th kids name.
The Albatross is a reference to 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner' where a mariner shoots down an albatross believing it was bad luck, but it was actually good luck. It only became bad luck BECAUSE he shot it down, and then he has to wear it around his neck as a symbol of guilt and shame. Taylor is the albatross and yes theyre warning her new lover, but also they got it wrong. She will only write songs about cutting people down if they do something bad to her first, but if you treat her well, she'll treat you well and lift you up.
Dang, no wonder there's college level classes about her music.
The Albatross is also a poem by the French author Charles Baudelaire where he compares the poet to an albatross.
@@flaviadn Dang again.
Also, the story of Cassandra is boiled down to she was cursed by Apollo to be able to see the future, but no one believed her... and she tried to warn people about the future but they killed her
The way she thought about this story and made it work for her own experience will never not be mind blogging to me. The way some people miss how she’s talking about how Cassandra was killed because she was right about her prophecy, as if we don’t remember the iconic line, “the old Taylor can’t come to the phone… she’s dead.” 🤯🤯🤯
She was killed but like the Phoenix, Taylor found a way to come back stronger, in spite of all the hate and vile that was directed her way.
I can't believe that I keep hearing people say that TPD needs editing. It's like asking why Pride & Prejudice is a book and not a short story and saying that Jane Austen needed a better editor. I mean, Joe Wright's film version is easy on the eye and ear, but that BBC mini series still wins in the end of the day in terms of story telling.
Every song in TPD is there for a reason and it's the beauty of this album. It is not for quick consumption, and once you're past the stage of 'who is this song about', it's for sitting with the feelings and emotions that every note and lyric evokes in you.
This is the most accurate thing I’ve read all day.
🐾 TIMECODES 🐾
3:59 - The Black Dog
10:25 - imgonnagetyouback
14:14 - The Albatross
19:37 - Chloe Or Sam Or Sophia Or Marcus
26:04 - How Did It End?
31:56 - So High School
36:56 - I Hate It Here
43:11 - thanK you aIMee
48:25 - I Look In People's Windows
52:26 - The Prophecy
57:02 - Cassandra
1:00:07 - Peter
1:04:46 - The Bolter
1:08:18 - Robin
1:11:58 - The Manuscript
I think that's the whole point of the double album. The first half is for the Midnights fans, the second half is for the Folklore/Evermore fans. I mean, she kind of did the same thing on Midnights, with the 3AM tracks being more for the Folklore/Evermore folks.
Cassandra was the princess of troy she was given the gift of prophecy by Apollo who was in love with her after she rejected his advances he sabotaged her gift of prophecy with a curse that no one would believe her predictions she predicted the fall of Troy but no one believed her. In the context of Taylor this song could be about the Kanye West situation when the Kim “leaked” the phone call the world turned on her and called her a snake (they filled her cell with snakes) and there was a loud up roar but when the uncut phone call came out a few years back it was silent. The bridge “the family the greed the Christian chorus line… “ is about the Kardashians and Kanye’s Christian era
I don't know how people miss it...she inhales on that last syllable of "screaming" at the end of The Black Dog 😭😭😭😭
Thank you for your take on So High School. Some just don’t get it! She sounds so giddy and happy can we just enjoy this?!
Honestly I grin like an idiot when listening to that song. It makes me SO happy for her.❤❤ Love it!
I think her relationship with Travis will give her a certain peace that was hard to find in others.
Partly because of Travis' own fame and his family already being used to it. Maybe not Swift level used to it but its not new. And they have their own stuff going on to that isn't in competition with her. Their things complement each other.
I think it's as close to a "normal" situation with friends and family and fun as she could have with someone who makes her feel special. Who is an extrovert. And makes her feel taken care of.
Also I think the age and timing are good for them both. In a way that had they met 10 years ago, it wouldn't have worked. For either of them. I think they had to mature to enjoy being kidlike
Her time with Joe worked at that time in her life. 6-7 years is a good run.especially under a microscope and pandemic.
I think she and Travis will last a while. Maybe not forever but for a good bit.
And I think we will get some happy songs and maybe even some lullabies.
Forever, you can pin it.
Why do you just want happy songs, why can't you want her to finally have happiness and her forever after?
@janellekeller52 I don't want just happy song. Sheesh.
I do want her to be able to have a wide range of emotions and experiences and feel extended periods of love and peace.
She has always processed and chronicled her emotions and experiences through her music. Yes, she likes sad songs and storytelling. So do I.
I also just think that you get to a point in your thirties where you get comfortable with wanting to be happy and silly and appreciating peace & relative calm. I think she's in that phase.
I want her, the person, to be able to fully enjoy the many shades life offers. Being content is a shade. And it gave us albums like Lover & 1989 & even Folklore to a degree before.
Anyone defining Taylor as just sad songs says more about themselves than her or her music.
Edit to add- I first saw her perform in a Kansas Target parking lot in 2006. I have been a fan ever since. I have watched her career like a proud auntie. I told people the get go that she was special and was far more than what the first impression.
@@theConquerersMama she will be going into a season of her life where the heartbreaks will come
From places other than romantic heartbreak. Aging parents, maybe children, etc. If Taylor continues to allow us into her life we will surely get the full spectrum of the human experience even if she remains madly in love with the same person.
"thank you Tom" had me rolling 😂
Periodtttt call these fuckers out
The piano in CoSoSoM is the same piano at the end of Champagne Problems! I can’t believe I haven’t seen anyone recognize this yet!
I prefer Chloe et al as the abbreviation lol
imgonnagetyouback is about Matty, not Joe! The title is stylized in the same way as The 1975s "fallingforyou" and she references his "bike" and her "house" just like he does in that song.
Thanks for the The 1975 links.
As a 1975 fan this whole album has driven me off the deep end. I love it. And this song is just so good! And so obviously referencing The 1975’s fallingforyou, which Matty dedicated and sang to her on stage in 2014.
Thanks for this piece of info, I like The 1975 but don't know the lore and wasn't into Taylor back then so didn't realize they were on and off for so long until this album. I definitely recognized that Matty has song titles like that and noticed other references to his songs (Chocolate, She's American) and his production choices (the bridge of The Smallest Man, the overall vibe of Fortnight). This is such a trip!
Honestly I think the front half being an absolute mess helps tell the story. Immediately after a breakup you're a hot bloody mess, just like the front half. Theres beauty and introspection in it but its not ordered at all. As the album continues you can see her starting to try to pull it together which is why the back half feels a little.. better. Both halves as a whole really tell the whole story. The timeline in chronological relationship order doesn't matter, but the timeline of her processing and grieving and coming to terms with the relationships DOES matter.
I agree 100% I also feel like the first half resembles a manic phase and the second half feels like a depression and reflecting.
I was really worried you werent going to get there with the Peter Pan reference. 😂 love the reaction
"The Manuscript" is possibly about Jake Gyllenhaal and making ATW10MVTVFTV:The Short Film (I love that acronym 😂).
It's still so cathartic, the only song that made me cry in the first listen.
That is my take. She must have been so taken with him.
And that it was a fan favorite so she was giving the song now to us the fans
I totally think it’s about him and the short film
i absolutely love you... the way you analyze the lyrics and how quicly you understand the theme of the songs is mindblowing... you would be the best literature teacher... i couldn't stop listening to what you were saying. And since i was having a bad day your video made me so happy, i hope you had a great time and it wasn't shitty in The Black Dog :)
not calling out the bully by name😂😂 loved all your insight in this vid!!
The Peter and Wendy is Matty and her. It started in Cardigan. When they connected he was young, newly famous, and using drugs so they never became anything. Betty I think is what she hoped he would come and say to her. Peter is her letting go of the fantasy.
I agree. Peter feels connected to "right where you left me" as well.
@@itskashkashicomplete disagree
I HATE IT HERE takes it back to during her "jail time" with Joe when they were writing Folklore/Evermore (secret gardens) and Midnights (lunar valleys)
Thanks!
YES!!
I reacted the same way as you to The Manuscript. I thought it was such a beautiful ending. ❤️
Would you consider making a playlist of the songs on the entire album that you think would make it a more focussed album?
Initially when I saw Cassandra on the album, I thought Taylor covered Florence's song Cassandra on Dance Fever. They are both about the same Greek mythology.
Peter Pan = Matty. They first connected in 2014, but she broke it off due to his drug addiction. She was waiting for him this whole time, and they finally reconnected, only to lose it all in such a devastating way (him leaving/ghosting her after all the promises he made). This song has us all re-fathoming Cardigan and so many other songs (Maroon, Snow on the Beach, Labyrinth, Question....)
loving the being funny in a foreign language vinyl in the background
I am quite sure that The Albatross is an allusion to Colderidge (OG Romantics Poet)'s The Rime of the Ancient Mariner.
The Albatross goes between being an omen if good to being an omen of evil after the sailors kill her... until the sailors realise that they were just always projecting their own issues into her and she was just an innocent bird.
Taken together with whatever love context she is referencing in her own life... The imagry is just incredible.
Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?, The Albatross and The Prophecy have quickly become top 20 TS songs for me. They’re incredible songs.
I honestly love this whole project more and more with every listen! It’s hard to even pick a favorite. In So High School she is making a cute reference to an interview Travis did years ago that resurfaced where an interviewer made him play Marry kiss or kill me and used Katy Perry, Ariana G and Taylor! He said he would kiss Taylor but the lyrics in SHS say she is betting on all 3 for her and Travis! ❤❤❤ Love it and love your reactions.
The TTPD is definitely a grower, like it more with each listen.
me too!
Loved your reaction, so thoughtful. Made me love this album more.
Thank yOu Mark (Luscent’s Version)
🥹🥹🥹🥹
This comment is perfect haha ❤️
@@Luscent @Arianne746 I had a f-boy TOM in my life too, perfect comment!
your energy is so precious
*THE ANTHOLOGY IS MY FAVORITE* 🤍✨
I think this whole thing was a reflection of her doing the re-recordings and looking at it all from her adult perspective and that’s why it’s youthful but with adult honesty.
Thank you for being the only person on the internet who understood thanK you aIMee on the first listen 😂
I'm confused... Help me understand in a few words. Or I could scan back to what he said.
@@kerrisouth Taylor is acknowledging that without Kim’s behavior toward her, she wouldn’t have had an unhealthy amount of ambition to keep reinventing herself and building the Taylor Swift empire.
A lot of people are fixated on Taylor bringing up old news, but it’s really a mix of “I can still throw this in your face” and “I actually have you to thank (at least partly) for the fact I’ve reached this point of my career”. What makes the song interesting to me is the equal amount of pettiness and personal growth 😆
Okay my favorites from this album (in this order):
1. The Black Dog
2. The Prophecy
3. How Did it End?
4. The Manuscript
5. Peter
It’s full of gems!
I think Peter is one of the most heartbreakingly beautiful songs I've ever heard, truly. other favorites include Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus, The Black Dog, So High School, and thanK you aIMee.
While watching you listening to this second half of TTPD I could not wait until you got to the Manuscript. The entire album summed up. The different sounds all her past albums, from her country beginning to today. I cried too.
The end of your video
made me cry. Thanks so much for this reaction. ❤
I love the whole album but from this half- black dog, imgonnagetyouback, the prophecy, I look thru peoples windows and how did it end are my faves.
Enjoyed this video thank you!
In no particular order:
1. Cassandra
2. The Manuscript
3. The Albatross
4. The Black Dog
5. Peter
I love your interpretation of the manuscript.
As a note I think the manuscript is about All Too Well The Short Film as well. The actors hitting their marks, dancing, the tears falling with the score (like in a movie) wanting to be thirty when she was with Jake. How the fans changed the song for her. It’s crazy how the details fit this perfectly and the overall theme of the song also fits her entire life.
Beautiful
My absolute favourites in this album:
1. The Black Dog
2. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
4. So High School
5. The Albatross
6. imgonnagetyouback or Peter
also cassandra is referencing the kimye situation
It’s funny because the difference in enjoyment between the first side and the second side of the album is all about perspective. I felt the first side was more thoughtful, experimental, but still focused. And I thought the anthology had more “boring” production choices. It’s so cool that there’s something for everyone!
I keep waiting for your reactions on hearing the vital parts of the songs and you are talking over them. Lol. So have to wait for you to read the lyrics,🙂
I love your interpretation of the manuscript but ill just add that the manuscript is her albums that she has given to us.
The Manuscript wasn't about Joe. She clearly references an older man. Joe is 2 years younger than she is.
There is also a line that you talked over where she says something like "you said because I was so wise beyond my years, that it had all been above board, but she wasn't sure"...
I'm almost 100% sure it's about Mayer, Gyllenhaal and Harris. Especially about Mayer though.
I'm guessing those tears are from How Did It End? Or The Prophecy. Those were my standout tracks and really moved me. Well, notification bell is on! 🥰
Chloe, Sam, Sophia or Marcus; The Manuscript; or Robin, tho
This entire video was worth watching for the moment when Peter hits you! ❤😂❤
I don't know the exact order, but my top 5 is currently:
Peter
The Prophecy
How Did It End?
I Hate It Here
Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
Wonderful interpretation and thesis.
Thank you Tom, got me 😢😮
my absolute favorite is The Black Dog, closely followed by The Prophecy. after that I would have to say imgonnagetyouback, Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus, and I Look in People's Windows I think! with The Bolter possibly somewhere in there too. The Black Dog and The Prophecy are among my absolute favorites (top 5 probably) out of the whole 31 songs
Yes to all these! My top 2 are the black dog & the prophecy, as well. Tied for first on the whole album. Also, Peter is so beautiful!
@@avlrealestatesource yes!! I really like Peter too, but it's one of the ones I need to listen to more still (with 31 songs some I just haven't fully digested yet lol but i love the sound of it). Guilty As Sin and Florida have me in a chokehold at the moment but otherwise The Black Dog and The Prophecy would probably be #1 out of the whole thing as well, I love them so much
Spotted Being Funny In A Foreign Language record in the background, did you do that on purpose? LOL
My favorite songs are The Black Dog, imgonnagetyouback, I Hate It Here, I Look in Peoples Windows, and The Prophecy. I also love The Manuscript so much as a reflection on the rerecording process.
I don't care what anyone says. The production on the first album is still really great.
Oh my gosh!!! I absolutely adore that you're a Zelda Stan!!! Same!! I live for my Zelda ❤
how did it end?, peter, and the black dog are my top 3!! these songs are SOOOO much better than the OG album😅!!🤍🤍
PLEAAAASEEEE!!!!! React to medúlla by björk!!!! It's such a beautiful album that fully dives into the creativity and possibilities of the human voice, combining so many variations of singing and noises to create one gorgeous blend of an almost fully acapella album. Its one of her most unique yet accessible albums and has proven itself to be such a popular set of songs, with one of her performances for this album even taking place in the Olympics!!
1. I Hate It Here
2. How Did It End?
3. The Prophecy
4. The Albatross
5. Cassandra / The Bolter (Can't choose😭)
Jack is really good, but Aaron is phenomenal.
How could you miss commenting on the last killer verse about Kim? Did you miss it or hold it back for Patreon?
Best laid plans are from hoax....😢
1. Black dog
2. Prophecy
3. ThanK you aIMee
4. Cassandra
5. How did it end ?
I Hate It Here feels like her explaining the origins of folklore/evermore and how she felt like a shut-in due to both covid and Joe's want for the two of them to just stay home together all the time when she used to always go out and be with friends or attend/host parties all the time... so now she's having these lucid dreams and writing poetry and asks Joe (the "finance guy") write with her, trying to bring some new dynamic into their relationship by writing songs together. But sadly even that couldn't fully revive their relationship and that's when songs like Guilty As Sin come into the storyline where Matty sent her a song she'd forgotten about and she suddenly is like "Omg duh! THIS is a guy who actually gets me" and starts daydreaming about and then planning to go rekindle things with him as soon as she and Joe are officially over.
So much cut.
I may be reaching but I think CoSoSoM and the lyric about, “you needed me but you needed drugs more and I couldn’t watch it happen” is deeper than the surface level interpretation we’re giving it. She’s mentioned Joe being depressed and maybe even clinically depressed; what if she’s saying you needed medications to cope with your sadness instead of leaning on me and I couldn’t stay because there was no space for her (Renegade shoutout). Just a thought.
It’s definitely about matty
i think you are right! haven’t heard anyone else saying this but i’ve been thinking it since the album came out
I'm really hoping Taylor wouldn't say, "Fuck your SSRI! Only I can solve your depression!!"
???
That just doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to troll you, just pointing out an inconsistency in logic.
@@sarahgray6157 she’s not saying that at all in the song? “you needed me but you needed drugs more and i couldn’t watch it happen”. in this interpretation, shes saying that he really did love her but he wouldn’t get help for his depression, and she couldn’t keep watching him suffer without trying to get help. this is also one of the reasons that i think the song is about joe, because it references her leaving, whereas it seems like through context clues you can see that matty was the one who pulled away first.
@@abbehjeh thanks for saying that; I just had that gut feeling when I first heard it but I could be totally wrong and it’s even about the label and how they let her down because of greed.
19:11 Regarding The Albatross, when she and Matty went public with their relationship last spring, a section of her fan base came after him. They spread horrible fake news stories about him on social media, called him racist, a nazi, homophobic (really funny considering the number of men he’s kissed at his concerts) and none of that stuff is true. And, even though his fans tried to defend him, people just generally believe what they see on the internet. Her fans sent an open letter to Taylor, calling her out for dating him. Telling her it was her responsibility to break up with him. You can still find this letter on Google if you search. Matty and his family received death threats. They sent ai generated images of him dead from overdosing to his mother. It was brutal. This song really makes me cry, the line about them coming to drag him from his bed and her trying to spread her wings like a parachute and protect him. 😢
wtaf? i didn't know half of this! those fans got off easy with But Daddy I Love Him
@@kindredanastasia Some of them are waking up now and realizing what they did. But some of them are doubling down, saying they’re glad they did it, they know she’s mad but they did the right thing, that she’s better off. Can you believe that?
@@ssalas7374 seriously? love is love; no one knows the inside of a relationship except those two people, and I know I have absolutely no right to do anything but wish the best for her and thank her for choosing to share her music with us.
That said, sanctimonious hypocritical wine moms on their high horses clutching pearls... we all know this type of person. Hearing Taylor vivisect them was satisfying.
I thought I saw spider man.
I don't agree with the songs you've linked Joe to from Folkore/Evermore/Midnights.
She said so many times that he didn't care about what everyone said they should be. He just cared about her. And he wasn't overly bothered about the secrecy. She said so many times that he just didn't listen or pay attention to all the noise and drama. And NO. There is not one thing in the lyrics that suggest that he cheated. And there is NO WAY that if he had, she wouldn't have said it very explicitly in a song.
From only looking at lyrics, it sounds like Joe struggled quite badly with depression and he just couldn't get himself out of it. He didn't know how badly it was hurting Taylor and making her question herself in the relationship. Thus the lines, "you sacrificed us to the gods of your bluest days" and "How much sad, did you, think I had, did you, think I had in me".
And in the Long Pond Studio Sessions discussion with Aaron about Hoax, she says that the line "don't want no other shade of blue but you" was specifically about how she felt about her relationship at that time. She said something like, if you have to be sad, who is the one person you would sit in that sadness with.
People do Joe so wrong in retrospect when she very clearly says on the sleeve of the album that she wrote many of these songs with intense immediacy and that many of those slights were self-inflicted.
No one who has listened to her music since Reputation can pretend like it wasn't the most important and positive relationship for a good few years until it fell apart.
“He was with her in dreams” is a lyric in FOTS. Also they “fell victim to interloper’s glances.” I’m not sure they cheated but perhaps both were starting to have feelings for others? Clearly Taylor did. I think that’s why she mentioned him being with her in dreams and shortly after guilty as sin? Comes up. She knew the fans wouldn’t come for him dreaming about another woman if she shared all of THAT. lol
❤i hate it here