@@SmokyMtnSteam Oh Also, do You Know when they start the day at Cass? We are planning on going Friday but we can't decide on what time to go. We were wanting to get shots of the trains getting water and coal in the morning.
@@jacksonsdrones I'd recommend getting there about an hour and a half before the first train of the day leaves. Most days they offer a free shop tour about an hour before the first train.
I first went there in 1963 the year the Cass Scenic Railroad opened. At that point, you could only go to Whitaker Station. My wife and I went back in 2013 for our 35th anniversary and stayed in the caboose on Bald Knob! It happened to be on the 50th anniversary of the opening of Cass Scenic Railroad. Though we have lived in Texas for many years, as often as possible Cass is part of our pilgrimages to my native state.
The Cass RR is one of most beautiful I have ever seen! Every time we go( 4) times is just absolutely the best! Any season you go to see God's Magnificent Handy Work just screams out How much He Loves us to make so much beauty! To add these one of a kind Steam Engines is just that much more Love! Rusty &Cheryl Clarke Chester/Enon Va.
Absolutely agree! Was there in late October this year. Durbin Railroad was ok but Cass had a lot more history and things to see and enjoy. We're looking forward to doing it again.
The Cass Scenic Railroad is on my "Bucket List" of tourist railroads I'd like to go to. The Cumbres & Toltec and Durango & Silverton is on that list also.
I love Cass scenic railroad, they own some rare and unusual steam locomotives. And those whistles, just damn. I hope I can go down there in person some day.
Thanks for posting this beautiful video. Love those whistles and gears. I'm always amused by the people waving from the train as they go by. These same people, seeing you anywhere else, would ignore you! Trains bring out the best in folks, I guess.
Lord I love Shay Engines! Probably the most powerful engine ever made by themselves! Just amazing engineering ability and works of art! Can't get enough and the whistle sounds and every Engineer has his own signature sound
My special needs son and I both like Shays too with their 3 pistons on the right side that move up and down instead of side to side which is a very interesting mechanical system.
I love those sidewinders! Nothin' like a Shay; great sound! Didn't know they were standard gauge. I love all those non-standard engines like the Shays, Climaxes and the Heislers.
My special needs son really likes them too! I personally like the Shays with their 3 pistons on the right side that move up and down instead of side to side, I think it is a very interesting mechanical system!
Sorry for the late reply, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! They'll be reopening the Greenbrier line to Durbin soon, next year might be a good time to revisit.
Great video! I was at Cass in 1998 and saw 4,5and Maryland 6 didn't have the time to ride the train sorry to say but was on my way home from Strasbourg Pa and visiting the Pa railroad museum and riding the Strasbourg rr.Had more ability back then to visit some great railroad museums also went to Steam town on that trip.
I see that old Climax locomotive is almost finished, getting her final details in order. I've waited so long for that Climax to enter service, I bought the exact model without lettering, so that I could match it up to the real thing when that magic moment happens.
@@TrainChamber That is the same Lunkenheimer it frequently wore since the mid 1990's. It's just been worn out, and readjusted a lot especially more recently.
Great video man haven't been there since 2006. When I was there I rode behind Heisler 6 and Shay 11 to Bald Knob And Coming back down the mountain meet Shay 6 coming up the Mountain
I was there a couple years ago before they had redone The Greenbrier Line. I had ridden the #6, and the #5 and #2 were also in operation, I wish the locos still pulled the trains, it was so cool when they did
Simply beautiful, all of it. Stuck inside during the Wuhan virus thing, thanks for some wonderful entertainment. I went there years ago to bicycle the Greenbrier River Trail and found the railroad. There is little better than standing on an open flat car 2 feet away from a Shay chugging up the mountain. The entire area is full of beauty and history.
Love the Shays, most interesting loco ever. As a kid, out of curiosity, I built a two speed gear box for my HO model from the spare parts bin. With r/c I could shift the rear (only) drivers (front disconnected for simplicity) from 1-1 to 1-1 1/2 ratio. still had the low speed torque but gained speed on level stretches. Was this ever done on real ones? Would love to go to Cass but I'm 78 and may not.
I will always be a fan of British steam engines at heart. I now admit you've got me hooked. I have an American Steam Train on the Cat Valley Steam Railway, my model 00 gauge railway, The Chattanooga. A video of it is due to be uploaded on my channel Kelly Ashford Trains this Sunday. I wonder if you've heard of The Chattanooga. I'm curious. I'd like to learn about it, if you might know something of its existence.
Thanks for your comments Kelly! While I don't know that there was ever any train named the Chattanooga, the Bachmann set recreates a typical Nashville, Chattanooga & St Louis Railway branchline freight train. The NC&StL, nicknamed the Dixie Line, was a major railroad in my home state of Tennessee with a main line running from Memphis in the West through Nashville and Chattanooga to Atlanta, Georgia. The city of Chattanooga itself was and is a significant railroad hub immortalized in the 1941 song "The Chattanooga Choo Choo" and currently home to the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum, one of the premier heritage lines of the Eastern USA. The last surviving NC&StL steam locomotive is number 576, a streamlined 4-8-4 currently being restored in Nashville.
Back in the day logging railroads would typically push log cars up steep grades as a safety measure so that the engine would prevent them from uncoupling and runaway. When Cass became a tourist line they just replaced the log cars with coaches.
@@SmokyMtnSteam Here in California, we have a similar railroad called the Roaring Camp and Big Trees Narrow Gauge Railroad, which has a recreation of a typical logging line. Except for the switchback, the Shays and Heisler pull the trains up and down the mountain (they used to push the trains in the 60s, but at some point, they started pulling). And keep in mind, Roaring Camp's grades are much steeper than Cass (the switchback alone is a 10% grade).
Thank you! I was going to ask the same question but nevermind then. I finally understand why they push there trains now. I couldn't get that question out of my mind. But thanks!
The reason for their invention was the fact that the wheels are on trucks rather than a rigid frame like a conventional locomotive, meaning that they are flexible enough to run on very hastily laid temporary track like you might find in a logging operation. That said, their usefulness on steep grades is what popularized them.
I'm curious if you can tell by the color of the smoke which of the two engines was doing most of the work. For instance, the Western Maryland was pushing out a lot of black smoke while the Cass engine mostly white (Steam). Is that an indication that one engine was doing the heavy lifting? By the way, these were magnificent!! I've never heard of "sidewinders". I just assumed it was some reference to using switch-backs to climb a mountain sideways more or less.
The engine should be perfectly capable of pulling itself back up, although you would still have to use some kind of ramp to guide the wheels back onto the rails.
Hab heute, 15.11.2020 (deutscheDatumsschreibweise), das 1. Mal ein Video von solchen Dampflokomotivenb gesehen. Einfach faszinierende Technick. Schade, dass ich in Deutschland keine Lokomotive dieser Bauart finden kann. Oder doch? 230 / 1024 I have today, 15. 11. 2020 (German date spelling), the 1. Let’s see a video of such steam locomotivesb. Simply fascinating technick. It’s a pity that I can’t find a locomotive of this type in Germany. Or is it?
5:436:36 Wow ! You should be able to open a dictionary and the engineers picture is there to discribe what a true professional is. This is the video that made me subscribe to your channel. Excellent sound capture !
My organization finds, interviews and does projects with Rosie the Riveters and their communities, so that these women are heard. I started in WV, my home state, because so many women here went nationwide to work during WWII. Now, I hope to show that these earlier times are important. Today we have the virus crisis, and I ask people to look at those earlier times when we had to conserve, grow Victory Gardens, rely on extraction industries (e.g., coal, timber) and each other. This railroad somehow conveys that more basic time, when we gave thanks, plainly and simply. See thanksplainandsimple.org
my wife and I tried to tour wv on our goldwing, only to be hassled by police, because we weren't wearing a helmet. You might have more tourist if you would abolish this stupid law. It's my head, my choice. It's only in place, because emt's and police are too pussyfied to see an accident.
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Your Shots are Amazing! And then You Add the Shots and the Trains! 👍👍👍 Keep These Videos Coming!
Thank you very much!
@@SmokyMtnSteam Oh Also, do You Know when they start the day at Cass? We are planning on going Friday but we can't decide on what time to go. We were wanting to get shots of the trains getting water and coal in the morning.
@@jacksonsdrones I'd recommend getting there about an hour and a half before the first train of the day leaves. Most days they offer a free shop tour about an hour before the first train.
@@SmokyMtnSteam Okay Thanks A lot Man! Keep Making Your Incredible Videos!
I first went there in 1963 the year the Cass Scenic Railroad opened. At that point, you could only go to Whitaker Station. My wife and I went back in 2013 for our 35th anniversary and stayed in the caboose on Bald Knob! It happened to be on the 50th anniversary of the opening of Cass Scenic Railroad. Though we have lived in Texas for many years, as often as possible Cass is part of our pilgrimages to my native state.
And the video was GREAT!
Thanks!
I remember taking our children and grandchildren to Cass, when they were small. This is a beautiful place to visit. Wonderful experience for everyone.
Those whistles bring a tear to my eye
Agreed. Those shay’s are equipped with the best, most glorious whistle I have ever heard
Love you steam locomotive 🚂❤♥💙😘💕🚂
The Cass RR is one of most beautiful I have ever seen! Every time we go( 4) times is just absolutely the best! Any season you go to see God's Magnificent Handy Work just screams out How much He Loves us to make so much beauty! To add these one of a kind Steam Engines is just that much more Love! Rusty &Cheryl Clarke Chester/Enon Va.
Man, I love that whistle!
I really enjoyed the framing of the cars and locomotives as they went past and the sound was phenomenal. Excellent video, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I went to cass in the summer of 2018 10/10 would go again cass is one of the best railroads still operating today
Absolutely agree! Was there in late October this year. Durbin Railroad was ok but Cass had a lot more history and things to see and enjoy. We're looking forward to doing it again.
I would love to go one day! That sounds like fun!
Thanks for the memories. I was there back in 1979 & 1980. Geared loco heaven.
My roots beckon to me. WV runs deep undeniably. Alot of wonderful humble God fearing people here with real people skills.
The Cass Scenic Railroad is on my "Bucket List" of tourist railroads I'd like to go to. The Cumbres & Toltec and Durango & Silverton is on that list also.
I haven't been to Cumbres but Cass and Durango are both fantastic!
You love it - Go - take the longer excursion up to balk knob - while your at it go see the newly restored 1309 Mallet in Cumberland
I love Cass scenic railroad, they own some rare and unusual steam locomotives. And those whistles, just damn. I hope I can go down there in person some day.
Can we all agree this is underrated?
Cass Shay #5 has been plying her trade up there in those very same mountains since 1905 ! Close to 114 years, people!
Excellent video! I love to hear them sing, especially the Big 6.
Thanks! Hearing the whistles echo though the mountains is one of my favorite things about Cass.
I'm stuck between 4 and 6 for the whistle
Thanks for the video!
This is the first time I've seen a sidewinder engine!
Thanks for posting this beautiful video. Love those whistles and gears. I'm always amused by the people waving from the train as they go by. These same people, seeing you anywhere else, would ignore you! Trains bring out the best in folks, I guess.
This has got to be on of the Best Videos of Cass! 👍👍👍 Also, was that Shay No. 3 in the Shop?
Thank you! The engines in the shop that morning were Climax 9 and BC&G 4.
Lord I love Shay Engines! Probably the most powerful engine ever made by themselves! Just amazing engineering ability and works of art! Can't get enough and the whistle sounds and every Engineer has his own signature sound
My special needs son and I both like Shays too with their 3 pistons on the right side that move up and down instead of side to side which is a very interesting mechanical system.
Another type of steam locomotive . First time I am watching these steam locomotive
I love those sidewinders! Nothin' like a Shay; great sound! Didn't know they were standard gauge. I love all those non-standard engines like the Shays, Climaxes and the Heislers.
My special needs son really likes them too! I personally like the Shays with their 3 pistons on the right side that move up and down instead of side to side, I think it is a very interesting mechanical system!
I’ll never forget when I went to Cass in 2013
Was that number 9 being fixed at 1:27
Yes that was 9, about one year before she was finished
@@SmokyMtnSteam wow glad it’s running a Climax is so unusual and and special
Magnificent footage through the hills and forest, some of the best steam whistles ever. Awesome video. Excellent.
This is fantastic. Great work.
Thank you!
been there. rode it many times. enjoyed every one.
Love to do this!!Whats it cost in 2019 here,please?? Anyone?
Very nice job filming this. I just love the sound of a 3 Cylinder shay chugging uphill
Thanks, it is a great sound. I hope I can hear it again soon.
It’s about time I’ve heard these trains with their original whistles
Spectacular footage with wonderful steam action and beautiful scenery, well done!
Thank you!
Magnificent video!
We haven't been to Cass in many years, about time. My first time there, they had just opened the line to Bald Knob.
Sorry for the late reply, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! They'll be reopening the Greenbrier line to Durbin soon, next year might be a good time to revisit.
This is a really good Cass video. Excellent work.
Thanks!
Great videography! Love the shots from down low. Nice work.
Great to see Big 6 running again, I missed her operating by 3 days
She's a MONSTER ! Wales UK . Great vid to watch , full of information .
Great video! I was at Cass in 1998 and saw 4,5and Maryland 6 didn't have the time to ride the train sorry to say but was on my way home from Strasbourg Pa and visiting the Pa railroad museum and riding the Strasbourg rr.Had more ability back then to visit some great railroad museums also went to Steam town on that trip.
I see that old Climax locomotive is almost finished, getting her final details in order. I've waited so long for that Climax to enter service, I bought the exact model without lettering, so that I could match it up to the real thing when that magic moment happens.
1:24 this is Climax 9 before she became Climax 9 (her original number was 6)
It is!
Super lokomotywa z pięknymi wagonami!😊
amazing have to go and see this!
Shay 4 has the most lovely whistle in the world.
DeVerne Coleman Footage It’s got a classic Cass whistle that’s kinda a standard for logging engines.
Well that Lunk she's wearing is new for 2018. She's had the same whistle for a while and i think it was awesome they changed it
im surprised. I thought it was the same one. sounds like the same sound from all the other videos I have seen of her.
It is newer, it was first heard before they officially opened and did the Rail Heritage Weekend
@@TrainChamber That is the same Lunkenheimer it frequently wore since the mid 1990's. It's just been worn out, and readjusted a lot especially more recently.
Muy. Bonito soy fana de los trenes en particular de los de a. Vapor
11 sounds amazing!
Great video man haven't been there since 2006. When I was there I rode behind Heisler 6 and Shay 11 to Bald Knob And Coming back down the mountain meet Shay 6 coming up the Mountain
Totally awesome!
Great footage! I can't wait for your footage of the Durbin Rocket.
Thank you! I'm hoping to have the Durbin video done by Thursday.
I made friends with 2 of the employees who work there, josh, who is the conductor for the train to bald knob and tom who sometimes gives the shop tour
Great video, Have to get there. I can smell the smoke.
Nice! Great work!
Thanks!
I was there a couple years ago before they had redone The Greenbrier Line. I had ridden the #6, and the #5 and #2 were also in operation, I wish the locos still pulled the trains, it was so cool when they did
I had no idea their nickname was sidewinders, although it makes sense
The nickname is a little obscure, probably because its easier just to say "Shay"
That’s cool, I should start calling them that, it is an accurate description
Simply beautiful, all of it. Stuck inside during the Wuhan virus thing, thanks for some wonderful entertainment. I went there years ago to bicycle the Greenbrier River Trail and found the railroad. There is little better than standing on an open flat car 2 feet away from a Shay chugging up the mountain. The entire area is full of beauty and history.
Cass certainly is special. Glad to have provided some entertainment during these trying times.
Awesome! At 4:12 you can hear Shay #11 Whistling off in the distance, I assume at Back Mountain Road
I can barely hear it but yeah I can hear it as well
Ah can too! :D
Hard to beat that Pennsy 3 Chime.
@@PennsyPro Im pretty sure its a Lunkenheimer, not a PRR. I could be wrong tho
Awesome video! I need to get back to Cass. Last time was 2010.
Thank you! My last visit was in 2010 as well, crazy how time flies.
Yes it does!!
Anybody know what kind of whistle 6 is wearing in this video?
Hi, Wilmer at Indian Head Valley RR sent me over here. I'm starting to like steam locos! But I'll probably never get ride one!
Is the Cass Scenic Railroad still operating?
Yes, they run May through October
Love the Shays, most interesting loco ever. As a kid, out of curiosity, I built a two speed gear box for my HO model from the spare parts bin. With r/c I could shift the rear (only) drivers (front disconnected for simplicity) from 1-1 to 1-1 1/2 ratio. still had the low speed torque but gained speed on level stretches. Was this ever done on real ones? Would love to go to Cass but I'm 78 and may not.
I'm in love!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
It's well worth the visit, but dress warm. The top of the mountain is windy and can get pretty cold.
I will always be a fan of British steam engines at heart. I now admit you've got me hooked. I have an American Steam Train on the Cat Valley Steam Railway, my model 00 gauge railway, The Chattanooga. A video of it is due to be uploaded on my channel Kelly Ashford Trains this Sunday. I wonder if you've heard of The Chattanooga. I'm curious. I'd like to learn about it, if you might know something of its existence.
Thanks for your comments Kelly! While I don't know that there was ever any train named the Chattanooga, the Bachmann set recreates a typical Nashville, Chattanooga & St Louis Railway branchline freight train. The NC&StL, nicknamed the Dixie Line, was a major railroad in my home state of Tennessee with a main line running from Memphis in the West through Nashville and Chattanooga to Atlanta, Georgia. The city of Chattanooga itself was and is a significant railroad hub immortalized in the 1941 song "The Chattanooga Choo Choo" and currently home to the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum, one of the premier heritage lines of the Eastern USA. The last surviving NC&StL steam locomotive is number 576, a streamlined 4-8-4 currently being restored in Nashville.
Love that whistle on shay 6! although the whistle on shay 4 was not very good in one shot its whistle is good too.
Why do they push the trains?
Back in the day logging railroads would typically push log cars up steep grades as a safety measure so that the engine would prevent them from uncoupling and runaway. When Cass became a tourist line they just replaced the log cars with coaches.
@@SmokyMtnSteam Here in California, we have a similar railroad called the Roaring Camp and Big Trees Narrow Gauge Railroad, which has a recreation of a typical logging line. Except for the switchback, the Shays and Heisler pull the trains up and down the mountain (they used to push the trains in the 60s, but at some point, they started pulling). And keep in mind, Roaring Camp's grades are much steeper than Cass (the switchback alone is a 10% grade).
Thank you! I was going to ask the same question but nevermind then. I finally understand why they push there trains now. I couldn't get that question out of my mind. But thanks!
Great video 👍! Are these standerd guage or narrow guage. I'm probably small minded to not know but I have just gotten into these types of engines.
These are standard gauge locomotives.
@@SmokyMtnSteam oh okay thanks!
I see there is Danny Seldomridge still running No 6...Been awhile since I ran up there at least once a month for yrs..
What was the exact purpose of the geared locos?
Was it only to provide traction on steep grades without slipping?
The reason for their invention was the fact that the wheels are on trucks rather than a rigid frame like a conventional locomotive, meaning that they are flexible enough to run on very hastily laid temporary track like you might find in a logging operation. That said, their usefulness on steep grades is what popularized them.
Hey! That's Dustin Terpenning playing the Banjo!
I'm curious if you can tell by the color of the smoke which of the two engines was doing most of the work. For instance, the Western Maryland was pushing out a lot of black smoke while the Cass engine mostly white (Steam). Is that an indication that one engine was doing the heavy lifting? By the way, these were magnificent!! I've never heard of "sidewinders". I just assumed it was some reference to using switch-backs to climb a mountain sideways more or less.
I had heard that if Shay became derailed , it could pull itself back on . Any comments ?? Wales UK.
The engine should be perfectly capable of pulling itself back up, although you would still have to use some kind of ramp to guide the wheels back onto the rails.
@@SmokyMtnSteam Hi Smoky , thanks for the info . They are the most amazing engines !
Hab heute, 15.11.2020 (deutscheDatumsschreibweise), das 1. Mal ein Video von solchen Dampflokomotivenb gesehen. Einfach faszinierende Technick. Schade, dass ich in Deutschland keine Lokomotive dieser Bauart finden kann. Oder doch?
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I have today, 15. 11. 2020 (German date spelling), the 1. Let’s see a video of such steam locomotivesb. Simply fascinating technick. It’s a pity that I can’t find a locomotive of this type in Germany. Or is it?
5:43 6:36 Wow ! You should be able to open a dictionary and the engineers picture is there to discribe what a true professional is. This is the video that made me subscribe to your channel. Excellent sound capture !
Probably the smoothest operation of a locomotive I've ever seen. Thanks for the comment!
How long til the Climax is done approximately?
According to the D&GV it should be test-fired in the next few months and running this summer.
Are these coal or oil burners?
The entire Cass fleet burns coal.
What microphone do you use, I need one
Azden SMX-30
That was quick, thank you
Is this in Tennessee?
West Virginia
SmokyMtnSteam oh
Pennsy 3 chime on #11
What camera did you use?
Sony FDR-AX53 with Azden SMX-30 microphone
Amazing videos always keep coming from your channel anyways, did you make friends with the horse farmer?
My organization finds, interviews and does projects with Rosie the Riveters and their communities, so that these women are heard. I started in WV, my home state, because so many women here went nationwide to work during WWII. Now, I hope to show that these earlier times are important. Today we have the virus crisis, and I ask people to look at those earlier times when we had to conserve, grow Victory Gardens, rely on extraction industries (e.g., coal, timber) and each other. This railroad somehow conveys that more basic time, when we gave thanks, plainly and simply.
See thanksplainandsimple.org
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my wife and I tried to tour wv on our goldwing, only to be hassled by police, because we weren't wearing a helmet. You might have more tourist if you would abolish this stupid law. It's my head, my choice. It's only in place, because emt's and police are too pussyfied to see an accident.