"She was gone and we needed you...BUT YOU CHOSE THOSE DAMN RINGS OVER US!!!" "You trained your son to be a killer...IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED!?!?" always gets me, the way he delivers those lines really hits you differently
I know!! it feels so Raw and Real!! like how someone who's been through true trauma would sound. I love how serious the tone gets in this particular part of the movie, no jokes or anything. Just a Real Scene
@@jemmellpyron2527 And he was an abusive parent + crimelord who basically had taken over the world behind the scenes without anyone noticing. People like that ain't the most mentally stable.
Same with Wenwu. He was actually being defensive during the fight, also when he shoots the rings at him, look how far from target they go. It was only that last move he chose to really punish him.
I like to think that Wenwu intended to bring out the big demon so that Shang Chi can destroy it with the rings. He knew his son was ready to wield them.
@@A2906-o8qthe only reason anyone even came for him and his family was because he was a conqueror. Perhaps someone with the Ten Rings would have gained those gangs’ attention eventually anyway, but they came after him cause they wanted to get rid of/intimidate a rival.
Nah I think wenwu was right. Shang may say he is not afraid of his father, but when face to face with the man who caused all his childhood truama and groomed him into the fighter he is now, its likely that deep down he's still afraid of Wenwu
i like how the rings or whatever supernatural weapon doesn't overshadow the actual choreography but actually heighten the power and intensity of whatever is done by the actors. also wide, long shots help make it feel a bit closer to a typical martial arts film
unlike in the og comis, this version of the 10 rings is more towards enhancing what the users already have, so i wonder what if its used by the Makluans? considering the size of these rings can fit actual dragons.
Don’t forget a stable camera and not shaking like crazy like other action movies have done in the past It really helps us enjoy the action we’re watching
@@akbarrmd7714 It might be the Makluans. At the end of the movie, Wong analyzed the rings and revealed that the rings are much older than even his immortal dad when he first found it. Also, the rings gives out a strange beacon that would lead someone to them. The rings have advanced technology beyond the era it was found and it gives out a beacon signal to whoever's out there. So, it might not be that impossible for the Makluans to make their appearance.
"She was gone and we needed you... but chose those damn rings over us!" that delivery was perfect. You can feel the anger and resentment in his voice, which he had been keeping to himself all this time, coming out at last. Great scene.
@@antioneatkins7724 I don't want to say that you are wrong, but my impression at that moment in the movie is that he was using them, but was not good enough to control his powers like he did when he beat his father. I also felt like his father was not using his full power there, hence why Shang-Chi looked like he was almost better than him. But maybe I'm the one who is wrong about that, it's hard to know from what we can see.
It was the only time Wenwu was serious. He spent the entire fight intimidating, aiming wide to avoid lasting damage, he wanted to break his son's morale and end the fight without brutality. But Shang Chi hurt him deeply with that comment, and he lashed out.
@@26kito Good thing that Shawn was wearing a dragon scale armored tunic. Although, It doesn't help much with him falling and drowning into the water.
Nah man, Wenwu just grief and cant accept her wife dead. Maybe physically hes strongest character in this movie but mentally hes weak thats why all this things happen.
tbf, it seems more like both Wenwu and Shangchi impose their views on how they think the Mother would feel towards them to each other. Wenwu mentions how he shouldn't have taken the rings off, aka shouldve been there to help her, Shangchi before this scene mentions how his mother would hate who he's become, and then later says the mother wouldn't want to be with Wenwu. Wenwu has shown to be pretty reasonable, so what he said likely was not his true feelings but his anger getting out of hand plus his sanity/vision tunneling.
I can see why Wenwu said he blames Shang letting his mother die although not entirely justified, I think the basic divide between the father and son is their innate response to conflict the former being fight while the other is freeze; roles reversed Wenwu would have called for help, grab a gun and shoot the best he could and die with the mother while Shang would have grieved and retreated into depression.
@@NoWayJose24 That should be a What If episode, imagine he just snaps and tries desperately to get them back somehow after he’s been consumed by his grief and anger.
Scary how much Wenwu is like my real life dad (except the part of loving his wife). He would blame anyone but himself for his own mistakes, making everyone suffer with him. As if its the young kids faults his marriage was failing (divorced now). I bet this movie hits close to home for many people. Great acting by Wenwu, would love to see him in future projects
I just love how they was fighting then pause to hear each other out as family then continue the fight but not really trying to kill. It’s the little details
When wenwu said "u stood at the window & watch her die" it did sound like he is blaming his son for not preventing his wife's death, but at the same time, he is trying to point out shangchi's "cowardice"...damn sucha deep double-layered line. But we all knew shangchi wasnt a coward, but that he ran away from his dad bcz he didnt want to live his whole life as a meaningless killing machine, as what shangchi said to katy that he hardly remembered what life was after his mom was killed
I love how this Marvel movie started and ended. The best part is the fighting and Wenwu's origin. He was a man consumed by power and only had his one true love stolen from him thanks to his past. He should've been a better father than seek revenge. But, grief and loneliness is a bitch.
As a matter of fact, the way he uses the staff is mostly similar to Wing Chun Pole Form. The staff in Wing Chun is longer than the one he used but the way he holds and moves the staff is similar to the ones from Wing Chun.
As mention, be it Wing Chun or Shaolin, this is generally how Chinese staffs are wield. The more Chinese way of wielding polemarm and spear can be found in Western production too. Specifically, Game of Throne Oberyn Martell vs the Mountain and they made note of it in behind the scene stuff. Spears, staffs and sabers are several weapons in Chinese martial (and other Asian culture) that rely on constant spinning, to general flow and momentum. While spear and staff attack differently, both are very focus on using spins to direct their 'ends'.
This movie exceeded expectations and I think I loved this movie the most besides no way home the characters were well developed and the story line and action was awesome
Something that hits particularly hard in this movie, between this and bus scene, is seeing the fight scenes performed by the actor to a reasonable degree. Obviously you're gonna swap out for the double to not injure the actor and stop production for months on the massive wire pull fall, but seeing Simu do a lot of the exchanges is so satisfying
Look at 0:04, this is how every great actor acted, it's just a few seconds but it's deep on how he assessed Shang Chi, we can feel him. Tony Leung cannot speak English fluently, but as a professional actor, his voice, intonation, facial expression and body language really delivered the character. When Hollywood remake the Hongkong blockbuster movie Infernal Affairs, into Departed, his counterpart for the character is Leonardo Di Caprio.
Tong Leung is a HongKonger when Hong Kong still belongs to England. They were educated in English. He certainly understands and speaks English fluently, but with an accent and it's just his second language.
when he said "she was gone and we needed you" and the next pieces of dialogue, it sounded so legit and like he wanted to break down in the middle of the fight. its more of a curiosity thing but i wonder if it wouldve sounded as good or better in mandarin. still though, very well delivered lines.
I often wonder if Xu Wenwu can actually kill Thanos(without infinity stones) and the Black Order using the Ten Rings, he is literally invincible and immortal until Wenwu uses the Rings.
Not even close. Thanos won't be affected by those rings. He's way too durable. The rings can kill Human like opponents , but they would be useless against opponents of high durability like Thor, hulk, thanos etc. The rings could pull up a decent damage But that's it.
@@cringekiller348 I mean we straight saw Shang chi blow up a soul sucking dimensional monster. We can't really say that Wenwu couldn't have shot them and blown up Thanos like Captain Marvel or Scarlet witch could without knowing it's full capabilities.
Shang-Chi vs Xu Wenwu is the great fight scene because it turned out that the legends of the Mandarin and the Ten Rings Organization are real and the actor Tony Leung did a great job portrayed Shang-Chi's father and the real villain who became the Mandrian in the MCU after the Iron Man 3 movie 😎
1:21 “She was gone. And we needed you. But you chose those DAMN RINGS OVER US” “You trained your son to be a killer. Is this what YOU WANTED?!” It was at this moment, the look in Wenwu’s eyes he begins questioning himself. It’s like he’s thinking “what have I done? He’s right” but the fact he still hears his wife his thoughts are still clouded so he hasn’t come to his senses yet but you can just see the guilt in his eyes. Amazing acting here this is definitely one of my top 3 favorite marvel movies. Also amazing fight choreography. Anyone know what style of martial arts this is? I wanna say Tang Su Doo or kung fu but I’m not sure
"She was gone and we needed you, but you choose those Damn rings over us. You trained your Son to be a killer, IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED? Even if you could bring her back what makes you think she want anything to do with you".
@@Calebwilliamsoffical that’s why it’s kinda rash, he knew how powerful he was, he djust didn’t want to use it like his father did, so that’s why he needed his aunt to show him how his mother did it because she fought in peace,
I truly don’t think Wenwu was seriously fighting Shang-Chi with an intent to kill. Shang-Chi, on the other hand, was. So Wenwu wasn’t giving the fight his all.
What this movie has done so well, in my opinion, is having the character's words to be the final blow in their fight sequences. Let me use certain scenes from different movies (including this one) to make this clear... Many of the action sequences, especially in Hollywood, tend to have their characters say their cold line before delivering their attacks or their final blow (depending on the sequence), which is also known as a one-liner BEFORE the finisher. A good example of this is the "This is Sparta!" from 2006 film, 300. That line itself will always be phenomenal to many viewers and it still is up to this date. But in certain viewpoints or story scenarios, having characters to deliver their one-liner before the kill, or at least, a heavy attack, can be a bit lacking in leaving an impact both to the drama and to the audience. Especially if the character fails to deliver his/her blow or kill to his/her enemy after the line (e.g. getting shot from the back without any anticipation of it), which kind of hurts the delivery of the line itself and makes the whole thing even awkward. It loses its sense of epic-ness, if you may. Shang Chi, on the other hand, follows a "one-liner AFTER the finisher" rule. Take the 0:34 of the video as an example. Wenwu performs an epic move by leaving a mark on Shang Chi with his spinning downward kick. I myself, as a viewer, would say, "Well that was a cold hit from him." But then it doesn't stop there. Wenwu, this time, would then proceed to say his line as a way to hurt Shang Chi's emotions. He says, "You stood out the window and watched her die!" Not only does this imply how desperate Shang Chi is unable to defend himself from the enraged Wenwu, but also how Shang Chi, as a young boy back then, was also not able to protect his own mother. And as a result, I, as a viewer, would say, "Nevermind! What he said right there was more hurtful than his kick from earlier." The scene then continues with Shang Chi, as he loses it and makes his way towards Wenwu to deliver another strike, thus, the intensity of the fight escalates. The same idea was also executed in 1:41 - 2:00. Wenwu was hurt physically, but then his vulnerability sheds even more when Shang Chi says, "Even if you could bring her back, what makes you think she'd want anything to do with you?" Consequently, this enrages Wenwu once more, then delivers a much more brutal finisher to Shang Chi compared to the one that Wenwu has performed earlier. Characters, especially human characters, are much more vulnerable, in terms of their emotions, than in terms of their physique. I personally think that painful words leave something much more worse than physical scars. Knives can leave cuts or even scars but words can do the same thing and the pain, sometimes, remains in the heart and it never goes away. Which is why some movies follow the "one-liner BEFORE the finisher" rule. But the use of the "one-liner AFTER the finisher" rule also results with a progressive intensity with regards to its storytelling. By having a physically damaged character be insulted by their opponent is what "adding insult to injury" literally means. The character's injury worsens, when they get hit in the feels by their opponent, making the injured character's situation even worse afterwards. And that is what I meant by having the character's words be the final blow/kill against their opponent. Although I'm not saying that "one-liner AFTER the finisher" is better "one-liner BEFORE the finisher". I personally think that both rules are epic and can be applied in every fight sequences you make. It all depends on the scenario and how well you incorporate them in your scenes.
Wenwu was never contesting that she died. What he thought was behind the door was her spirit in the afterlife and that if he opened the gate he bring her back to life
Loved the movie but didnt like how they used the rings, they completely changed the nature of the rings amd converted them into bangles that a person wears into their arms, but the rings were actually like a normal ring (worn in fingers) in the comics and they hold immense powers, like the infinity stones, each ring has different powers, one grants you super strength, the other super speed, the other teleport and open portals and like that all 10 rings have their own unique powers, i actually prefer the rings over the infinity gaunlet but they kind of completely changed the concept of the rings which is sad :")
Man where TF is Shang Chi 2!? Almost forgot how great this fight is. The choreography is good, the cinematography really showcases it, the actors both give such an authenticity to the stakes and emotions of the battle and the editing ties everything together. Whenever they do make a sequel which is hopefully sooner than later Tony Leungs presence is gonna be hard to fill because of how much drama and gravitas he brought to Wenwu. But the potential for Shang Chi is seriously infinite. I know it would be a huge bit of fan service but I’d love to see the character face off against Danny Rand or just see contemporary martial arts acting stars like Donnie Yen, Micheal Jai White or Jet Li featured in it. It’s too bad Scott Adkins played a names npc in Dr Strange. I’ll bet they could cast him again too though, it’s not unprecedented. (Rant over) I just want another one so bad!!!
0:44 “you stood at a window and watched her die!” This is one of the biggest problems I have with this movie; if he physically saw his wife’s dead body, how could he POSSIBLY think that it’s actually her calling to him from behind the gate? I honestly would think someone who has been alive for centuries would be smarter than that 🙄
Good question. I think the rings also gave him superhuman senses and reflexes, allowing him to dodge attacks a lot quicker. But, if he threw all 10 rings towards somebody or something for a longer amount of time, leaving him unarmed, then I really don't know.
Bro his dad literally just dropped the guilt bomb got reversed card but couldn't take it and tried to kill his son and then just walk away like it didn't happen.
How are people actually saying this movie is bad, I don't understand truly, I get the mcu is in terrible shape right now but i mean come on, ain't no way u saying this movie is bad.
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"She was gone and we needed you...BUT YOU CHOSE THOSE DAMN RINGS OVER US!!!" "You trained your son to be a killer...IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED!?!?" always gets me, the way he delivers those lines really hits you differently
I know!! it feels so Raw and Real!! like how someone who's been through true trauma would sound. I love how serious the tone gets in this particular part of the movie, no jokes or anything. Just a Real Scene
Yeah, totally! This is awesome and chaotic! 😆
"Even if you could bring her back, what makes you think she'd want anything to do with you."
“You trained your son to be a killer, is THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?!”
That line was pretty badass
I know right🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yea then got folded for disrespecting pops 😂
maybe, but the previous "But you chose those damn rings over us" hits way harder
@@patrickkubinec7026 exactly what I was going to say gave me chills when he said that
It's not even how it's written, it's the delivery that makes it more amazing.
Shang chi is the only asian that ever said "no" to his dad and survived
Hehehehehe.
Because his dad doesn't...
And also, that guy from "Kim's Convenience"....lol.
Hardly…
Dad didn’t have the belt with him, so Shang Chi had no fear.
"You stood at the window and watched her DIE!" Man Tony Leung delivered that with conviction.
Really blamed his son when he was SEVEN and couldn't do nothing.
@@jemmellpyron2527Hey man, grief can make people think the craziest things.
@@Paalleujo oh for sure. Still crazy though.
@@jemmellpyron2527 And he was an abusive parent + crimelord who basically had taken over the world behind the scenes without anyone noticing.
People like that ain't the most mentally stable.
1:24 you can literally see how bad wenwu felt when Shang said that. He didn't realize how much more he was needed as a father.
@@vitsawomi286 he didn’t need to say anything, you can see all his thoughts within his eyes
a moment of I want to do to my dad that want me and my mom deaths long ago
I was thinking the same thing
All hail Tony Leung
I salute this father. Kids nowadays have forgotten their limits, and need to be put in their places, even if it be by lethal force
"She was gone and we needed you. But you choose those damn rings over us"
Had made me cry
I was tripping off mushrooms had e balling
none of his men were using deadly force. They were just stunning and containing. He really just wanted his wife back.
Same with Wenwu. He was actually being defensive during the fight, also when he shoots the rings at him, look how far from target they go. It was only that last move he chose to really punish him.
@@DarkCreed Some of them clearly are aimed past him too, lmao
I like to think that Wenwu intended to bring out the big demon so that Shang Chi can destroy it with the rings. He knew his son was ready to wield them.
Nah Wenwu wasn't a villain, he just wanted his wife back and was corrupted by the Dweller
@@A2906-o8qthe only reason anyone even came for him and his family was because he was a conqueror. Perhaps someone with the Ten Rings would have gained those gangs’ attention eventually anyway, but they came after him cause they wanted to get rid of/intimidate a rival.
“I’m not afraid of you”
“Yes you are”
There’s a difference between fear of a person, and fear of what they intend to do
Nah I think wenwu was right. Shang may say he is not afraid of his father, but when face to face with the man who caused all his childhood truama and groomed him into the fighter he is now, its likely that deep down he's still afraid of Wenwu
@@lte7151it goes deeper then even that you’re standing against the person that created you that in itself is terrifying.
notice how he glanced down? im guessing shang chi was shaking a little and he saw. or some other indication that made wenwu notice his fear.
Generally you’re right, but with Wenwu, both cases are right
i like how the rings or whatever supernatural weapon doesn't overshadow the actual choreography but actually heighten the power and intensity of whatever is done by the actors. also wide, long shots help make it feel a bit closer to a typical martial arts film
unlike in the og comis, this version of the 10 rings is more towards enhancing what the users already have, so i wonder what if its used by the Makluans? considering the size of these rings can fit actual dragons.
Don’t forget a stable camera and not shaking like crazy like other action movies have done in the past
It really helps us enjoy the action we’re watching
@@akbarrmd7714 It might be the Makluans. At the end of the movie, Wong analyzed the rings and revealed that the rings are much older than even his immortal dad when he first found it. Also, the rings gives out a strange beacon that would lead someone to them. The rings have advanced technology beyond the era it was found and it gives out a beacon signal to whoever's out there. So, it might not be that impossible for the Makluans to make their appearance.
@@joshuaamadeusishak1887 and considering the size, it fits well as the makluans rings, its still a ring, but not in human size.
Tony Leung was so awesome in this role, I wanted a standalone movie with him in the lead role. Call it The Mandarin.
Yesssssss pleaseeeeee
As Wenwu yes, as The Mandarin hell no!
@@warsthemarvel8608 you'd rather take the knockoff Mandarin from Iron Man 3?
@@xxDxxism well if he’s anything like the comics or the 90’s cartoon then yes
Make it Logan style and have Sam raimi direct it. Watch the box office explode
"She was gone and we needed you... but chose those damn rings over us!" that delivery was perfect. You can feel the anger and resentment in his voice, which he had been keeping to himself all this time, coming out at last. Great scene.
"Even if you could bring her back... what makes you think she'd want anything to do with you" Savage.
I believe Shang is the closest to anyone being able to take on WenWu without any special powers
He does have powers in the MCU and in comics, not the OG comics though like when he first appeared he just hasn’t unlocked them yet.
He has power there though. He has magic weapon and armour+ in that dimension he has the same power potential ability that. his mother had .
@@Tomy-im8zl I know but he doesn’t out right use special powers. Basically he’s just relying on his martial arts skills to be adaptive.
@@antioneatkins7724 I don't want to say that you are wrong, but my impression at that moment in the movie is that he was using them, but was not good enough to control his powers like he did when he beat his father. I also felt like his father was not using his full power there, hence why Shang-Chi looked like he was almost better than him. But maybe I'm the one who is wrong about that, it's hard to know from what we can see.
@@Tomy-im8zl I can agree with you. It’s kinda 50/50. He uses martial arts until he has the rings.
That final punch at the end was sick
And brutal.
That hit was so hurt💀 I can't imagine how painful to took that damage
It was the only time Wenwu was serious. He spent the entire fight intimidating, aiming wide to avoid lasting damage, he wanted to break his son's morale and end the fight without brutality. But Shang Chi hurt him deeply with that comment, and he lashed out.
@@26kito Good thing that Shawn was wearing a dragon scale armored tunic. Although, It doesn't help much with him falling and drowning into the water.
she was gone, and we needed you. i came here just for that line.
I came for 'You stood at the window and watched her die'
@@DarkCreed that line gives me chills
Xu Wenwu:"You stood on window and Watch her die!!!!"
Deep Down , The Mandarin did acknowledged his wife's Death
1:54 Shang has balls of steel to say that to his asian dad
"You stood by a window and watched her die!"
My dude, he was like, six years old. What exactly could he have done?
Yeah, if he did something, he would lose a wife and a son.
Nah man, Wenwu just grief and cant accept her wife dead. Maybe physically hes strongest character in this movie but mentally hes weak thats why all this things happen.
Dang you just broke your son’s dragon scale staff and did a super gut punch!
This movie was a masterpiece
Literally one of my favourite Marvel movies
Best movies of all time
Agree. Masterpiece
Agreed. I rewatch scenes from this movie practically everyday. That's just how good this movie was
@@Judge-1964 nah spider-man no way home was way better
This wasn’t Tony Leung acting. This is just his morning routine.
What is really messed up is that Wenwu thinks shang should’ve tried to help his mother that night, chances are he would’ve died as well anyway
Imagine if he lost his wife *and* child.
tbf, it seems more like both Wenwu and Shangchi impose their views on how they think the Mother would feel towards them to each other. Wenwu mentions how he shouldn't have taken the rings off, aka shouldve been there to help her, Shangchi before this scene mentions how his mother would hate who he's become, and then later says the mother wouldn't want to be with Wenwu. Wenwu has shown to be pretty reasonable, so what he said likely was not his true feelings but his anger getting out of hand plus his sanity/vision tunneling.
I can see why Wenwu said he blames Shang letting his mother die although not entirely justified, I think the basic divide between the father and son is their innate response to conflict the former being fight while the other is freeze; roles reversed Wenwu would have called for help, grab a gun and shoot the best he could and die with the mother while Shang would have grieved and retreated into depression.
@@NoWayJose24 That should be a What If episode, imagine he just snaps and tries desperately to get them back somehow after he’s been consumed by his grief and anger.
Scary how much Wenwu is like my real life dad (except the part of loving his wife). He would blame anyone but himself for his own mistakes, making everyone suffer with him. As if its the young kids faults his marriage was failing (divorced now).
I bet this movie hits close to home for many people. Great acting by Wenwu, would love to see him in future projects
0:54 beautiful sound
I just love how they was fighting then pause to hear each other out as family then continue the fight but not really trying to kill. It’s the little details
When wenwu said "u stood at the window & watch her die" it did sound like he is blaming his son for not preventing his wife's death, but at the same time, he is trying to point out shangchi's "cowardice"...damn sucha deep double-layered line. But we all knew shangchi wasnt a coward, but that he ran away from his dad bcz he didnt want to live his whole life as a meaningless killing machine, as what shangchi said to katy that he hardly remembered what life was after his mom was killed
I love how this Marvel movie started and ended. The best part is the fighting and Wenwu's origin. He was a man consumed by power and only had his one true love stolen from him thanks to his past. He should've been a better father than seek revenge. But, grief and loneliness is a bitch.
I love Shang Chi using his staff to make a fighting style so differently than polearm and spear!
Sun Wukong will proud of Shang Chi!
As a matter of fact, the way he uses the staff is mostly similar to Wing Chun Pole Form. The staff in Wing Chun is longer than the one he used but the way he holds and moves the staff is similar to the ones from Wing Chun.
@@joshuaamadeusishak1887 Ohh! .o.
@@joshuaamadeusishak1887it’s more to Shaolin’s actually. Wingchun long pole more to spear movement, only use one end. Shaolin staff use both ends.
As mention, be it Wing Chun or Shaolin, this is generally how Chinese staffs are wield. The more Chinese way of wielding polemarm and spear can be found in Western production too. Specifically, Game of Throne Oberyn Martell vs the Mountain and they made note of it in behind the scene stuff. Spears, staffs and sabers are several weapons in Chinese martial (and other Asian culture) that rely on constant spinning, to general flow and momentum. While spear and staff attack differently, both are very focus on using spins to direct their 'ends'.
This movie exceeded expectations and I think I loved this movie the most besides no way home the characters were well developed and the story line and action was awesome
That last shot was “ watch yo mouth boy you don’t know shit and i was goin easy mode on ya before catch this old man strength 😂”
0:38 it's a ridiculous notion because he was just a kid, but you can hear that Wen Wu is hurting as well when he said that. Such a complex character
This is probably my favorite because of how raw and emotional it is.
You stood at a window and watched her die
What was he gonna do he was 7 years old
He was supposed to get help
@@bob_1216 it would of already been too late for help.
@@Artistjohnlaws4173 wenwu doesn’t know that
Asian expectations always another mountain to climb
@@KaizokuEspilce true
and that made Japan Korea china grow so fast🤣
This movie was really good. 10/10.
Something that hits particularly hard in this movie, between this and bus scene, is seeing the fight scenes performed by the actor to a reasonable degree.
Obviously you're gonna swap out for the double to not injure the actor and stop production for months on the massive wire pull fall, but seeing Simu do a lot of the exchanges is so satisfying
Reminds me so much of how Zuko confronted his father.
This movie had some of the best fight scenes in the mcu
Look at 0:04, this is how every great actor acted, it's just a few seconds but it's deep on how he assessed Shang Chi, we can feel him. Tony Leung cannot speak English fluently, but as a professional actor, his voice, intonation, facial expression and body language really delivered the character. When Hollywood remake the Hongkong blockbuster movie Infernal Affairs, into Departed, his counterpart for the character is Leonardo Di Caprio.
Tong Leung is a HongKonger when Hong Kong still belongs to England. They were educated in English. He certainly understands and speaks English fluently, but with an accent and it's just his second language.
when he said "she was gone and we needed you" and the next pieces of dialogue, it sounded so legit and like he wanted to break down in the middle of the fight. its more of a curiosity thing but i wonder if it wouldve sounded as good or better in mandarin. still though, very well delivered lines.
2:02 NANO MACHINES SON!!!
Nice knife!
1:56 when wenwu had enough and refuse to listen 😂
Hey you are so good at making it nice
I often wonder if Xu Wenwu can actually kill Thanos(without infinity stones) and the Black Order using the Ten Rings, he is literally invincible and immortal until Wenwu uses the Rings.
Probably tbh
We don't know what power the MCU rings hold.
Not even close.
Thanos won't be affected by those rings. He's way too durable. The rings can kill
Human like opponents
, but they would be useless against opponents of high durability like Thor, hulk, thanos etc. The rings could pull up a decent damage
But that's it.
@the epic trio
Comics are a different thing.
Mjolnir in the comics can manipulate reality as well. Comics shouldn't be used in the mcu fights.
@@cringekiller348 I mean we straight saw Shang chi blow up a soul sucking dimensional monster. We can't really say that Wenwu couldn't have shot them and blown up Thanos like Captain Marvel or Scarlet witch could without knowing it's full capabilities.
1:32
Is Just A Badass Scene
Shang-Chi vs Xu Wenwu is the great fight scene because it turned out that the legends of the Mandarin and the Ten Rings Organization are real and the actor Tony Leung did a great job portrayed Shang-Chi's father and the real villain who became the Mandrian in the MCU after the Iron Man 3 movie 😎
I did that fighting move while I was reading Wenwu’s movement and then performing perfectly.
0:39-0:47 stop making excuses he was just a boy
1:21
“She was gone. And we needed you. But you chose those DAMN RINGS OVER US”
“You trained your son to be a killer. Is this what YOU WANTED?!”
It was at this moment, the look in Wenwu’s eyes he begins questioning himself. It’s like he’s thinking “what have I done? He’s right” but the fact he still hears his wife his thoughts are still clouded so he hasn’t come to his senses yet but you can just see the guilt in his eyes. Amazing acting here this is definitely one of my top 3 favorite marvel movies. Also amazing fight choreography. Anyone know what style of martial arts this is? I wanna say Tang Su Doo or kung fu but I’m not sure
The move when shang chi spin attacked his father always gets me.
Thinking on it now, with how old this man is, he shouldn't have gotten caught lacking once. He has the experience to be invincible.
The fight be like :
Shang chi : skilled
Wenwu : spammer
For the record, he chose peace, he even gave up immortality just to live with his wife and kids. The tragic made him chose violence again
Shang chi and Katy escape scene in Razorfist car !!
"YOU STOOD AT THE WINDOW AND WATCHED HER DIE"
"Bruh....I was literally 9. Wtf you expect me to do?" 😂😂😂
"She was gone and we needed you, but you choose those Damn rings over us. You trained your Son to be a killer, IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED? Even if you could bring her back what makes you think she want anything to do with you".
Shang Chi is one of the few coolest movies in the MCU this decade has brought us.
He was cold asf when he said “you trained your son to be a killer is this what you wanted”
How can Shang beat his own father is he that invincible
He is empowered like his mother and has his fathers fighting abilitys
@@nickgher6007 that’s shocking because most hero’s Don’t have a match against their own parents like that. Thx for telling me that
@@Calebwilliamsoffical that’s why it’s kinda rash, he knew how powerful he was, he djust didn’t want to use it like his father did, so that’s why he needed his aunt to show him how his mother did it because she fought in peace,
I truly don’t think Wenwu was seriously fighting Shang-Chi with an intent to kill. Shang-Chi, on the other hand, was. So Wenwu wasn’t giving the fight his all.
@@Judge-1964 At least not until that ending punch. Just proves this fight could’ve ended before it began but Wenwu didn’t want that.
What this movie has done so well, in my opinion, is having the character's words to be the final blow in their fight sequences. Let me use certain scenes from different movies (including this one) to make this clear...
Many of the action sequences, especially in Hollywood, tend to have their characters say their cold line before delivering their attacks or their final blow (depending on the sequence), which is also known as a one-liner BEFORE the finisher. A good example of this is the "This is Sparta!" from 2006 film, 300. That line itself will always be phenomenal to many viewers and it still is up to this date. But in certain viewpoints or story scenarios, having characters to deliver their one-liner before the kill, or at least, a heavy attack, can be a bit lacking in leaving an impact both to the drama and to the audience. Especially if the character fails to deliver his/her blow or kill to his/her enemy after the line (e.g. getting shot from the back without any anticipation of it), which kind of hurts the delivery of the line itself and makes the whole thing even awkward. It loses its sense of epic-ness, if you may.
Shang Chi, on the other hand, follows a "one-liner AFTER the finisher" rule. Take the 0:34 of the video as an example. Wenwu performs an epic move by leaving a mark on Shang Chi with his spinning downward kick. I myself, as a viewer, would say, "Well that was a cold hit from him." But then it doesn't stop there. Wenwu, this time, would then proceed to say his line as a way to hurt Shang Chi's emotions. He says, "You stood out the window and watched her die!" Not only does this imply how desperate Shang Chi is unable to defend himself from the enraged Wenwu, but also how Shang Chi, as a young boy back then, was also not able to protect his own mother. And as a result, I, as a viewer, would say, "Nevermind! What he said right there was more hurtful than his kick from earlier." The scene then continues with Shang Chi, as he loses it and makes his way towards Wenwu to deliver another strike, thus, the intensity of the fight escalates. The same idea was also executed in 1:41 - 2:00. Wenwu was hurt physically, but then his vulnerability sheds even more when Shang Chi says, "Even if you could bring her back, what makes you think she'd want anything to do with you?" Consequently, this enrages Wenwu once more, then delivers a much more brutal finisher to Shang Chi compared to the one that Wenwu has performed earlier.
Characters, especially human characters, are much more vulnerable, in terms of their emotions, than in terms of their physique. I personally think that painful words leave something much more worse than physical scars. Knives can leave cuts or even scars but words can do the same thing and the pain, sometimes, remains in the heart and it never goes away. Which is why some movies follow the "one-liner BEFORE the finisher" rule. But the use of the "one-liner AFTER the finisher" rule also results with a progressive intensity with regards to its storytelling. By having a physically damaged character be insulted by their opponent is what "adding insult to injury" literally means. The character's injury worsens, when they get hit in the feels by their opponent, making the injured character's situation even worse afterwards.
And that is what I meant by having the character's words be the final blow/kill against their opponent. Although I'm not saying that "one-liner AFTER the finisher" is better "one-liner BEFORE the finisher". I personally think that both rules are epic and can be applied in every fight sequences you make. It all depends on the scenario and how well you incorporate them in your scenes.
Love it 😍👍
1:22 She was gone and we needed you! But you chose those damn ring all over us! You trained your son to be a killer. IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?
I truly think tony leung is one of the greatest actors alive so very impressed by simu holding his own onscreen with him!
0:40 yeah cause a child can take on 20+ dudes
THE SOUND DESIGNNNNN
Goosebumps
"You chose those damn rings over us"
Wild.
THAT WAS THE BEST CLIP
Dad: you still at the window and watch her die
How does that make sense why are you still trying to find her if you say she's dead
He wasn’t in the right mind set because of the dweller making him think his wife is alive but I do agree with you does kinda sound weird
Yep 👍
Wenwu was never contesting that she died. What he thought was behind the door was her spirit in the afterlife and that if he opened the gate he bring her back to life
She died. He was trying to bring her back from the afterlife.
I mean like you guys not understand he is trying to bring the mother back to life even though he say he's dead
mandarin in the comics: a 1 dimensional bond villain
mandarin in the mcu: has layers and depth to his character
This fight scene is better than black Adam
2:00 when you tell your asian dad you got a B in maths.
This fight scene is awesome, but I can’t get over Shang-Chi’s battle suit. It looks like a Halloween costume or an outfit for a sneakers ad 😅
2:00 Asian dad using 10% of his powers
This is one of the most badass 1v1 fight scenes
Those Dragon Scales make very powerful weapons. They were able to go up against the Rings.
2:02 i shouldn't have said that
Still one of the nest fight scenes in marvel history 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
shang chi caught a dragon ball punch at the end 😂
This is what black panther fight should feel like. Not that cgi rubbery crap
Loved the movie but didnt like how they used the rings, they completely changed the nature of the rings amd converted them into bangles that a person wears into their arms, but the rings were actually like a normal ring (worn in fingers) in the comics and they hold immense powers, like the infinity stones, each ring has different powers, one grants you super strength, the other super speed, the other teleport and open portals and like that all 10 rings have their own unique powers, i actually prefer the rings over the infinity gaunlet but they kind of completely changed the concept of the rings which is sad :")
The first doge in the beginning was sick
Edit: also the second one
I always laugh at that scene where shang chi gets yeeted at the lake
Wenwu and shang-chi are literally dragonball characters
Man where TF is Shang Chi 2!? Almost forgot how great this fight is. The choreography is good, the cinematography really showcases it, the actors both give such an authenticity to the stakes and emotions of the battle and the editing ties everything together. Whenever they do make a sequel which is hopefully sooner than later Tony Leungs presence is gonna be hard to fill because of how much drama and gravitas he brought to Wenwu. But the potential for Shang Chi is seriously infinite. I know it would be a huge bit of fan service but I’d love to see the character face off against Danny Rand or just see contemporary martial arts acting stars like Donnie Yen, Micheal Jai White or Jet Li featured in it. It’s too bad Scott Adkins played a names npc in Dr Strange. I’ll bet they could cast him again too though, it’s not unprecedented.
(Rant over)
I just want another one so bad!!!
Jung and Appa really going at it
the most personal final battle since civil war
0:44 “you stood at a window and watched her die!” This is one of the biggest problems I have with this movie; if he physically saw his wife’s dead body, how could he POSSIBLY think that it’s actually her calling to him from behind the gate? I honestly would think someone who has been alive for centuries would be smarter than that 🙄
I think it’s more about arrogance assuming he’d be strong enough to help but yeah that’s understandable
He knows she's dead. It's her spirit he's trying to find.
Wenwu kept hearing her voice, thinking that it her spirit is trapped in Ta Lo, but instead it was the Dweller in Darkness
??
Because he's a delusional villian. You
Think was rationale.
Shang chi Going to Ta Lo from forest.
There isn't an asian son alive who ISN'T afraid of his dad
0:33 best part
1:55 He seems to have some regret on how he treated his children
I love this movie.
Wenwu has a spark of love for his son deep down. Otherwise he would've used the slipper.
Best quality and ratio!
Can Wenwu be killed if someone just shot him from behind or would the rings protect him?
Good question. I think the rings also gave him superhuman senses and reflexes, allowing him to dodge attacks a lot quicker.
But, if he threw all 10 rings towards somebody or something for a longer amount of time, leaving him unarmed, then I really don't know.
Bro his dad literally just dropped the guilt bomb got reversed card but couldn't take it and tried to kill his son and then just walk away like it didn't happen.
How are people actually saying this movie is bad, I don't understand truly, I get the mcu is in terrible shape right now but i mean come on, ain't no way u saying this movie is bad.
That fight scene was badass
I like this fight between them much better than the final one by the gate. More hand-to-hand combat, less CGI.
Coolest. Dad. Ever! 😅♥️🤯
According to the MCU Timeline this battle takes place TODAY (April 4th 2024)