“What are these monsters under the bed that you are afraid of?” That helped me so much!!! I was definitely the player who “balances” without really understanding the proper context of balancing. You don’t need to be balanced against most opponents. Especially live. Game changer!!! Don’t get me wrong, I’m still going to be studying my face off, but yeah… this video helped me a lot! Thanks!!!
Hello Pete, thank you for all the great content you share here. I have been a pro for almost ten years, but I stopped in 2018. You definitely helped me update my game the past few months, as I'm getting back into the game! The topic of this video is really spot on: so many situations where it's easy to level ourselves to justify a bad play. Finding the relevant factors for our decision, is what matters, and it's easy to get confused with theory sometimes, indeed: MDF, blockers, etc. I also find that players very often project their own tendencies to other players (like a mirror image), sometimes missing totally what's going on. All the hands you present in this videos are great examples of what you're trying to illustrate, BUT I have to disagree with the J9s blind vs blind, where you flop a flush and just call flop/turn. True, against most players, you're losing too often facing the river check-raise. But I must say, personnally, playing in the shoes of SB, I would be able to check-raise this river as a bluff (even without blockers, doesnt matter), because you look super capped to me: even if in theory you could have flushes in your range, in practice it looks like you never have a flush. So yes, fold vs players for whom you are sure they would be straightforward, but for a player capable of turning hands into bluff and pressure capped range, you risk making a terrible fold with you flush. Especially blind vs blind. Keep it up, you're one of the best coaches out there IMHO!
24:18 i mean im not sure about this river spot myself. if i were villain, i wouldnt expect the slowplay frequency from IP to be high enough, that is slowplaying two streets, for there to be many flushes in heros range its possible for a thinking player to start bluffing more than normal against what they perceive to be a capped range. meaning theyre going to be indiscriminate in hand selection. meaning i could see a lot of pair plus Kc or pair plus Ac check raising a 3/4 sizing, which is still going to include queens up, hands like 108 that are betting when checked to on this node, the j9 straight, etc villains fold equity is pretty high so. i could see him overdoing it with any hand with the Kc Ac in it in this landing range bvb SRP.. i might bluff catch this spot
Yea I'm really torn by this one... I think IG it would be easier bc I would have a read (or the absence of one), but I still think I would call most of the time
I accidently watched 10 minutes of another poker training site before this video. It's the same midwit nonsense. There really is no one else putting out poker training videos like you Pete - keep up the good work!
I love your content frequently, but I wish you would stop using a 4 color deck without suit markings. I'm color blind and spend longer trying to figure out what you have so I can figure out what I would do before listening to your comments than I do paying attention. Thanks for the content!
I'm torn on the preflop advice to size up when you have a good hand. Do you suggest to size up a little bit, like half a bb or 1 bb? Or even bigger? I can understand sizing up just a pip cus it's less likely anyone will notice, but it's so obvious when someone has a standard size (or worse, open limps -- I play live a lot), and then out of nowhere opens 7x or larger. AQo is an easy fold against that guy.
That last hand is such a tough fold bvb. Especially with that clowny mid cb. I really really am struggling to fold this. Dont think i can with these position dynamics where villain could show up with T3s
This video has me rethinking some things I was holding to a little too tightly. I definitely would not have folded the J9c example in the 1/3 games I play but you made some really good points that have me thinking about it differently. You're probably right that it's always the nuts at stakes like that. I have been feeling that your meme describes me a lot more lately and want to get in the right head space to start winning again.
When i first started using gto i got so stuck with the idea of i have to call, GTO would tell me i should call. But im playing 25nl where they dont bluff nearly enough. "I hAvE To CaLl" then i call and its the nuts everysingle time. The "they arent check raising you on the river with a bluff at 25nl they just arent gonna do that. " from one of your videos has really stuck with me and has helped plug a huggggge leak of mine.
It's fine to fold almost all of your range when your opponents almost always have it when they take the line you are facing. If population underbluffs even 5-10% then a lot of combos switch from calls to folds.
As a station on close 'I have a good hand I lose to the nuts' hands the teaching the 6 year old kid joke made me giggle. I think I'm still coming to terms with the dread of going from value hand to bluffcatcher and having it happen over and over.
The comment about learning new concepts making you worse is a phenomenon which happens when learning any new skill. Your brain is trying to figure out how to implement the new idea, and getting it wrong while it’s trying to figure it out. E.g. in tennis “Be more aggressive! Rush the net more!” Student rushes the net even when previous drive sucks, gets pummeled, learns aggressive needs to be situational.
J9s fold? I don’t understand man. He can raise lower flushes? I understand this is a underbluffed spot but with a valuebeeter and the price surely has to sightcall?? 😛
I used to be a low stakes crusher and Pete describes the self-taught way I used to play. Pete is the only one I've ever heard articulate it. I stopped playing because I had a career that I needed to focus on, but now I am getting back into playing Pete is helping me relearn why I was a winning player. Pete is one of few commentators who truly understands how to think about poker and who sees past the one dimensional limitations of GTO.
@@jelly.1899 If you are playing a player who never goes all-in unless they have it, then you fold. GTO would tell you to sometimes call. Obviously this is ridiculous lol
@@Buz-Lunch-Punxwell no not quite. If you adjust the villains range to what it really is then it says fold. Gto bases the ranges as if everyone is playing the same way. The moment you manually adjust a range for a villain which is what you should be doing every time it tells you a new range you should call with. Solvers have there place however you must be adjusting the ranges for villain each time rather then having the auto set ranges
Really good anti-GTO thoughts. I play much higher stakes, 25-50 and above and I am agree with all that you hsve said - sometimes that "gto thinking" makes really upset. I think to myself - "I have a full house, I have to call! But he is a nit, he is never bluff shpving on paired board! Fuck it, I have to call!". Call, see quads, upset 😅
Very early on you listed many range types for yourself and the villain. I felt grossly out of my depth. Could you do a video on say 'how much are you feeling this hand right now'?
Exactly , love it !!! I say "I LOVE yall studying gto and trying to replicate solvers, and playing every villian the same. Please, keep doing it !!!" 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖 this new generation wants to be robots SO BADDD
I’ve played like 100,000 live hands prolly more. They have a saying “touch grass”. Why don’t I ever hear about talent? Just crap is made to sell coaching and apps and nonsense to the fish.
Sorry just can't agree with that final hand. When you flop a flush it is literally 2.5% chance you're against another flush, ANY flush let alone the nut flush. Villain didn't show much aggression in the hand and neither did Hero so you're hand is super under repped. When you get raised on the river am I seriously expected to believe villain WOULDN"T do that with AA, KKs, sets, 2 pairs, etc? Never? Are they never doing this with baby flushes? Are they never bluffing with Ax of clubs? especially a hand like A clubs Q or A clubs 8? This is way too nitty a fold when you only need 33 % equity. Talk about seeing monsters under the bed.
"i'll be too exploitable if i fold this here" - who's gonna know what you folded, you're not playing on tv where everyone gathers information and starts blasting you off your hands because you folded 2nd nuts that one time you knew your opponent has the nuts 100000000%
Yeah I see that river check-raise with lots of sets and worse flushes. Mentality of the villain being “Ok this guy’s calling with the ace of clubs, I’m gonna make him pay for the draw then let him bluff when he misses and check-raise my strong hand.”
I feel like there's way to much emphasis on the "don't play theory, play exploits" but that's not actually the crux of this video. This video entirely hinges on pot being an underbluffed size. That's it. If pot really is a severely underbluffed size, then fair enough, fold your entire bluff-catching range, but THAT is the claim, not that you shouldn't play GTO. In fact, if you don't know anything about pot from an MDA standpoint, you should be attempting GTO. So much of this video is spent chastising students for not folding to pot, but like, it's not common knowledge that pot is underbluffed. That is the important insight in this video - not *to* exploit but rather *this particular exploit*. You can't just make shit up and exploit - you'll be wrong just as often as you're right, maybe more. The "pot is underbluffed" claim has evidence behind it, that's why it's useful, but in another world where pot is overbluffed, obviously you would be getting crushed by folding in these spots. The matter of fact of that claim is the entire thing.
You just said he’s a recreational player while holding J8, and then you want to try and say he doesn’t have T7 of clubs because he raised under the gun. Fish don’t understand position, so why are we leveling here what they may or may not have? You have the second nuts. Put the stack in and stop leveling a recreational player. Save your mental energy for the next hand
“What are these monsters under the bed that you are afraid of?”
That helped me so much!!!
I was definitely the player who “balances” without really understanding the proper context of balancing. You don’t need to be balanced against most opponents. Especially live. Game changer!!! Don’t get me wrong, I’m still going to be studying my face off, but yeah… this video helped me a lot! Thanks!!!
Hello Pete, thank you for all the great content you share here. I have been a pro for almost ten years, but I stopped in 2018. You definitely helped me update my game the past few months, as I'm getting back into the game!
The topic of this video is really spot on: so many situations where it's easy to level ourselves to justify a bad play. Finding the relevant factors for our decision, is what matters, and it's easy to get confused with theory sometimes, indeed: MDF, blockers, etc.
I also find that players very often project their own tendencies to other players (like a mirror image), sometimes missing totally what's going on.
All the hands you present in this videos are great examples of what you're trying to illustrate, BUT I have to disagree with the J9s blind vs blind, where you flop a flush and just call flop/turn. True, against most players, you're losing too often facing the river check-raise. But I must say, personnally, playing in the shoes of SB, I would be able to check-raise this river as a bluff (even without blockers, doesnt matter), because you look super capped to me: even if in theory you could have flushes in your range, in practice it looks like you never have a flush. So yes, fold vs players for whom you are sure they would be straightforward, but for a player capable of turning hands into bluff and pressure capped range, you risk making a terrible fold with you flush. Especially blind vs blind.
Keep it up, you're one of the best coaches out there IMHO!
explains so much of my downswing - "so far up in my range" "I have to call with SOME hands"
I believe he is referring to the coach from BBZ coaching as he always says "what other hands are you going to bluff with/call with" etc.
One of the greatest value videos I have ever watched. Thanks so much for this.
Pete you're on the ball with the thumbsnails I love it
I put everyone on AK all the time, even when they limp call.
At least you are balanced
Sounds like LA 1-2 or 1-3...
I always put ppl on hands that beat me, and then call then regardless 😂
this might be the best video on this channel. Thanks for making it sir!
Wish you had this energy in From the ground up, haha! Amazing video! Thanks a lot for sharing!
Whoever creates the thumbnails deserves a raise
Shhh she might see this.
I agree
@dibees is it you? I hope it's you
@@joncorb540 it is me haha
what was the result in the last J9 hand please???
24:18 i mean im not sure about this river spot myself.
if i were villain, i wouldnt expect the slowplay frequency from
IP to be high enough, that is slowplaying two streets, for there to be many flushes in heros range
its possible for a thinking player to start bluffing more than normal against what they perceive to be a capped range. meaning theyre going to be indiscriminate in hand selection. meaning i could see a lot of pair plus Kc or pair plus Ac check raising a 3/4 sizing, which is still going to include queens up, hands like 108 that are betting when checked to on this node, the j9 straight, etc
villains fold equity is pretty high so. i could see him overdoing it with any hand with the Kc Ac in it in this landing range bvb SRP.. i might bluff catch this spot
Yea I'm really torn by this one... I think IG it would be easier bc I would have a read (or the absence of one), but I still think I would call most of the time
I accidently watched 10 minutes of another poker training site before this video. It's the same midwit nonsense. There really is no one else putting out poker training videos like you Pete - keep up the good work!
This is true
Really great video! Maybe your best yet! Thanks Carrot.
I love your content frequently, but I wish you would stop using a 4 color deck without suit markings. I'm color blind and spend longer trying to figure out what you have so I can figure out what I would do before listening to your comments than I do paying attention. Thanks for the content!
Skill issue
I’ve changed this now but this video was recorded before the switch.
turn your colorblindedness off
So what villain had in the last hand?
I'm torn on the preflop advice to size up when you have a good hand. Do you suggest to size up a little bit, like half a bb or 1 bb? Or even bigger? I can understand sizing up just a pip cus it's less likely anyone will notice, but it's so obvious when someone has a standard size (or worse, open limps -- I play live a lot), and then out of nowhere opens 7x or larger. AQo is an easy fold against that guy.
That last hand is such a tough fold bvb. Especially with that clowny mid cb. I really really am struggling to fold this. Dont think i can with these position dynamics where villain could show up with T3s
This video has me rethinking some things I was holding to a little too tightly. I definitely would not have folded the J9c example in the 1/3 games I play but you made some really good points that have me thinking about it differently. You're probably right that it's always the nuts at stakes like that. I have been feeling that your meme describes me a lot more lately and want to get in the right head space to start winning again.
By far the best poker content on RUclips ❤
Is this is an example of the Dunning-Kreuger effect? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
No. Oddly your misuse of the observed phenomenon indicates to me you're a victim of Dunning-Kreuger
@@brianwilson7624 this is why I posed it as a question, I was not sure. Perhaps an explanation would have been helpful.
Can someone explain the graph please?????
Studying GTO isn’t a waste of time. If you spent a lot of time learning what equilibrium is, you can use that knowledge to adjust
your content gets better with time, Pete! Thanks so much
I think I'm still a midwit :( send your love
When i first started using gto i got so stuck with the idea of i have to call, GTO would tell me i should call. But im playing 25nl where they dont bluff nearly enough. "I hAvE To CaLl" then i call and its the nuts everysingle time. The "they arent check raising you on the river with a bluff at 25nl they just arent gonna do that. " from one of your videos has really stuck with me and has helped plug a huggggge leak of mine.
If they have the nuts why would they raise? And scare you away? Aren't they more likely to trap?
It's fine to fold almost all of your range when your opponents almost always have it when they take the line you are facing.
If population underbluffs even 5-10% then a lot of combos switch from calls to folds.
This is your best video you’ve made all year. I find myself in the 115-120 spot on the graph
As a station on close 'I have a good hand I lose to the nuts' hands the teaching the 6 year old kid joke made me giggle.
I think I'm still coming to terms with the dread of going from value hand to bluffcatcher and having it happen over and over.
This was a great vid Pete thank you for the mindset shift :)
you didnt have to do me like that bro.. with the voice and all..
Hi Pete, I like your video. Would that be a good idea to call a 4bet with 54s pre in a high rake enviorment like PS NL 10?
The comment about learning new concepts making you worse is a phenomenon which happens when learning any new skill. Your brain is trying to figure out how to implement the new idea, and getting it wrong while it’s trying to figure it out. E.g. in tennis “Be more aggressive! Rush the net more!” Student rushes the net even when previous drive sucks, gets pummeled, learns aggressive needs to be situational.
how much will your subscription thing for new course cost ?
J9s fold? I don’t understand man. He can raise lower flushes? I understand this is a underbluffed spot but with a valuebeeter and the price surely has to sightcall?? 😛
I used to be a low stakes crusher and Pete describes the self-taught way I used to play. Pete is the only one I've ever heard articulate it.
I stopped playing because I had a career that I needed to focus on, but now I am getting back into playing Pete is helping me relearn why I was a winning player.
Pete is one of few commentators who truly understands how to think about poker and who sees past the one dimensional limitations of GTO.
Well, do you ignore GTO then? What is the big deal with GTO if it's not profitable. (I'm a noob)
@@jelly.1899 If you are playing a player who never goes all-in unless they have it, then you fold. GTO would tell you to sometimes call. Obviously this is ridiculous lol
@@Buz-Lunch-Punx okay, that's clear. 😀
@@Buz-Lunch-Punxwell no not quite. If you adjust the villains range to what it really is then it says fold. Gto bases the ranges as if everyone is playing the same way. The moment you manually adjust a range for a villain which is what you should be doing every time it tells you a new range you should call with. Solvers have there place however you must be adjusting the ranges for villain each time rather then having the auto set ranges
I really enjoyed the bongo playing at the end
the wonka pic, lol
That was absolutely killer help!
The j high flush hand and the meme😂
You crack me up every time
Amazing vod
I recognize myself again. You are so right!
Really good anti-GTO thoughts. I play much higher stakes, 25-50 and above and I am agree with all that you hsve said - sometimes that "gto thinking" makes really upset. I think to myself - "I have a full house, I have to call! But he is a nit, he is never bluff shpving on paired board! Fuck it, I have to call!". Call, see quads, upset 😅
Im so glad i came across your channel. If i get Cash Injection will i also get access to your discord server?
unfortunately no, only CPS and private coaching get you access to our server
@@CarrotCornerPoker thanks, guess I'll just have to get CPS then :)
Nice. I needed to be reminded of that.
It’s stupid to compare RPS game to poker. Thanks for your content
pete you are killing me. everyone on pokerstars is trapping now because of you telling people to protect their checking range
Great work Pete!
haven't seen such a wild thumbnail in a while
Is triple barrel in four bet pots vs fun players plus EV?
Triple barrel vs regs is, I gather.
forgettig about ranges is the ultimate strategy ?
good commentary after👍
Very early on you listed many range types for yourself and the villain. I felt grossly out of my depth. Could you do a video on say 'how much are you feeling this hand right now'?
Exactly , love it !!! I say "I LOVE yall studying gto and trying to replicate solvers, and playing every villian the same. Please, keep doing it !!!" 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖 this new generation wants to be robots SO BADDD
I’ve played like 100,000 live hands prolly more. They have a saying “touch grass”. Why don’t I ever hear about talent? Just crap is made to sell coaching and apps and nonsense to the fish.
"Had anybody seen a gto not get banned? No... its the exploitative bots that get banned."
How would you "see" any bot gettin banned?
Very relatable video
the outcome of the last hand is not shown(?
thats the point
The effect you are talking about is Dunning Kruger.
Relationship between knowledge and confidence
if he really CR the nut flush there on the River...well, that's a play I've yet to see at my stakes 😂
Sorry just can't agree with that final hand. When you flop a flush it is literally 2.5% chance you're against another flush, ANY flush let alone the nut flush. Villain didn't show much aggression in the hand and neither did Hero so you're hand is super under repped. When you get raised on the river am I seriously expected to believe villain WOULDN"T do that with AA, KKs, sets, 2 pairs, etc? Never? Are they never doing this with baby flushes? Are they never bluffing with Ax of clubs? especially a hand like A clubs Q or A clubs 8? This is way too nitty a fold when you only need 33 % equity. Talk about seeing monsters under the bed.
The cult of the solver. Brilliant
fantastic video.
Another great video
GREAT thumbnail
"i'll be too exploitable if i fold this here" - who's gonna know what you folded, you're not playing on tv where everyone gathers information and starts blasting you off your hands because you folded 2nd nuts that one time you knew your opponent has the nuts 100000000%
Why in the world would GTO bots not win...let alone crush?
/S
Best thumbnail ever lol if you know ha ha
OK im calling wit the J flush all day long and you cant stop me
Yeah I see that river check-raise with lots of sets and worse flushes. Mentality of the villain being “Ok this guy’s calling with the ace of clubs, I’m gonna make him pay for the draw then let him bluff when he misses and check-raise my strong hand.”
not with the mainstream meme thumbnail, ajaja
Finally some a pro has said what I have been thinking about these shit gto videos
🥁🥁True EV👉🏼
11:35 green jacket gold jacket...who gives ah shit!!??!
Joey Bag a'Donuts here. Pete- your mid-wit impersonation looks and sounds suspiciously like me... We need to talk about royalties.
LOL thumb
I feel like there's way to much emphasis on the "don't play theory, play exploits" but that's not actually the crux of this video. This video entirely hinges on pot being an underbluffed size. That's it. If pot really is a severely underbluffed size, then fair enough, fold your entire bluff-catching range, but THAT is the claim, not that you shouldn't play GTO. In fact, if you don't know anything about pot from an MDA standpoint, you should be attempting GTO. So much of this video is spent chastising students for not folding to pot, but like, it's not common knowledge that pot is underbluffed. That is the important insight in this video - not *to* exploit but rather *this particular exploit*. You can't just make shit up and exploit - you'll be wrong just as often as you're right, maybe more. The "pot is underbluffed" claim has evidence behind it, that's why it's useful, but in another world where pot is overbluffed, obviously you would be getting crushed by folding in these spots. The matter of fact of that claim is the entire thing.
You just said he’s a recreational player while holding J8, and then you want to try and say he doesn’t have T7 of clubs because he raised under the gun. Fish don’t understand position, so why are we leveling here what they may or may not have? You have the second nuts. Put the stack in and stop leveling a recreational player. Save your mental energy for the next hand
You nailed it with this video. But...I wish you didn't make it. I love me a GTO player
Your thumbnails have always been terrible. But this is just unnaceptable.
How do you know gto bots don't make money?
Lol green suits, you SJW, you.
Best poker channel on RUclips but damn son let’s work on getting that shirt ironed lol