This Student was STUCK at 50NL Because of THESE 5 LEAKS
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In a recent coaching session I was able to diagnose fiove major leaks that were stopping one of my new students from beating 50NL Rush and Cash on GG Poker. In this video I review some of the hands I used to make this diagnosis and put the student on the right path to 100NL.
Amazing ability to be able to within 10 minutes each identify a leak and within a short 30-45 min identify all leaks. Impressive to say the least. To create this content for us to digest on top of that is just pure gold nuggets to share. Kudos!
Want to give props to you for this video. You are arrogant and brutally honest, but still know the adjustments to make for the games you play in/facing underbluffed lines/etc. You're like that coach that pisses you in practice off but teaches you so many lessons and makes you so much better at the end of the day.
I would argue that the student thinking natural cleverness and problem solving ability are all it takes to beat this game is pretty arrogant.
Knowing a thing and being able to speak on it with confidence isn't arrogance, even when it makes you feel some type of way ;)
@@katiemarshall7531I wonder if he was reading the accent as arrogance, which I can see for someone not used to hearing a certain accent or dialect. (as in how some dialects sound "haughty") There is no way I would consider him as being arrogant here, there's way tougher coaches out there especially in other fields, haha...
This carrot guy probably cant beat 10nl
I agree with the Trash poker line on sizing per "Perceived Range", I do think it is built from an idea that people are so predictable in how they build ranges that people assume the ranges are too capped to weaker holdings, so rather than exploit this by bluffing really aggressively in these spots, people would rather just value bet small. I still see it on NL200 a lot but is starts to disappear by NL500, and I call and I think "Wow I saved a ton of money here". Then I see them also just give up clear bluff combos when my range is weak, very weird, imagine if they actually put pressure on your range all the time by betting big.
The best part is the sizing tells you can pick up are immense, so many spots where you've seen Villian go smaller with hands worth bigger in spots, even other day I had a guy go 70% OTR and I just knew it's a bluff sizing because of how he played value hands worth B70 in similar lines, so I can expand the bluff catching range.
It is just generally lower EV and opens you up to be exploited hard by players who do pay attention, who are capable of adjusting and do actually disguise their ranges.
and here i am as a relative beginner thinking the same thing, but im learning in $2 buyins and this doesn't apply there lol
Its the rake
well ye but you can win in those games so he just needs to get better
I might have played with you Maggie.
I totally agree with the rake concept, 1 poker table with dealer’s tip average 2 million a year and those money is from the players of course
And the Bots
Rake is high but this weeds out mediocre poker pros. Leaving only the recreational players and the poker players who care about maximizing ev each street position and spot. This coach has some solid tips to beat these games specifically
I gotta download some of these videos. This is way too valuable.
Even though 50NL is WAAAAY out of my league right now. 😅
I've been playing and learning online Poker for over ten years now and this guy has something special. 👍
Woah that comment about session length blew my mind. I thought 2-3 hour sessions were short. I have a lot of sessions where the final 30 mins are really bad. I wonder how long and when we should be taking breaks...
the "science" says at the 90 minute mark. Thats when our attention and performance nosedives
These general rules are all trash. As everything its individual.
And as individual it will stih has many variables.
Just identify if you are able to play well and continue or dont.
Dont blindly follow any rules
@@vojtechmatulik1292 even the fish know that nothing is a 100% ...These are observations of some of the biggest common leaks from these players . It is not about blindly following rules , it is about identifying patterns that might need improvement . If you think it's trash , I think you better find another game maybe
No the longer you play the better if you’re good. This carrot guy has no clue
thanks for presentation. as an unorthodox player i always find insights into orthodox patterns and thought processes very useful.
Pete! Just want to say you're an absolute legend mate. Not only is your content insightful but the way you break things down is hilarious too. Cheers from NZ.
This is fantastic, easy to understand and very instructive I think even for lower levels than 50NL, particularly when it comes to bet sizing.
7:18 reminds me of the Tommy Angelo article "the +eV of mouse smashing"
Thanks, this helped me. I was aware of my tendency to call way too light and stay in pots too long, but I learned something about jamming on the river when you know you have the best hand instead of trying to induce a call. Betting size is the weakest part for me even though I'm only playing 2NL
Great vid mate I like to grind rhe rush poker on occasion and this has been very insightful of some of the stuff I am doing!
Man, ton of value on this video. Thank you so much!
Hey Pete, another great episode. When you think about the 40-min and then a break, is this when you are playing on multiple tables?
Great content as always🙌 how many hands do you need to play in order to get a picture of what's going on?
This video is great, and I certainly make these same mistakes, specially the sizing on the river. However, this video could be greatly improved if it was more structured, talking about an issue at a time (it's ok the list them all upfront) and showing all the examples together.
Enjoyed this episode and learned a lot. Thanks! 👍
Nice video and brutally honest ❤❤❤ whats the suggested duration of a session in your opinion? I tend to do 1h, then if feel fresh i add 15 Min, plus max other 15. Stopping anyway at 1h30. I feel i start playing c Minus game After that and its not needed. I m recr player Who want to slowly climb 🎉🎉🎉
The K10 river bluff hand. When villain checks river and we bluff. Can’t we go for smaller sizing. Like 30% pot vs 50% pot size. If we’re gonna get called we might as well save some money. If the missed their flush or or straight draw then even a tiny bet will have them fold out. Maybe Ace High call but generally they like calling big bets as they appear more suspicious. 30% screams for a call.
17:05 What sizing would you bet with K7ss on the river? We have like 95% EQ but blocking the K and villain having chosen this weak line with the turn check-back IP I would not mind going 1/2 - 3/4 here. I don't see us getting any calls when we choose an overbet here. Do you agree?
As you said, villain is week after turn check and we block K. Therefore use sizing to target mainly Qx (small) and give him opportunity to raise smaller flushes or spazz vs percieved weakness
If you bet big here, you are making even his AK bluffcather, wich is probably best hand i give him after turn check
You need to have zero tolerence for clicking a button because you were impatient/tilted whatever, you are drawing dead to make any traction in your career if you think you can just have a little blow up every now and then.
This is not to demotivate anyone, I was the same, and I was told the same shit, and I changed.
As coach said in the video you can let off steam in other ways, just strictly NEVER with the buttons.
great content
The playing for an hour thing has blown my mind. I've literally noticed with myself time and time again and just thought I was shit cause I can only seem to last an hour 😂😂😂😂
great video , i was wondering if you think bet-check-bet is actually it's an overbluffed line in general or just in the spot you were talking about , imho in this kind of games (i play 25 nl) vs fish is a sign of a middling hand most of the times
should the sizing not be bigger @14:33???
Happy Diwali 🍨 Pete
8:20 The way I think about these small stacks is viewing it as a hard limit on the value you can get from nutted hands. Thinking about them in that light makes these types of plays a lot less attractive.
That’s not how it works. Fixing leaks doesn’t make u win and have massive win rate. It can help but not that much it mostly has to do with variance and tilt
I recognize a few of those. :) Thanks Pete, you are a true gem within the poker community.
Can you help me ? I shove every hand blind and go until I'm broke. please help..
Great video...learned a lot. I do about half the stuff here LOL.
2:38 haha i always say that shorter sessions are better and the huge winners at r/poker roast me for it. the sweet spot is 45 mins for me. anything over an hour and you are definitely losing mental sharpness.
7:30 J8s BB vs UTG/UTG+1 is a call preflop in GTO - am i wrong? what range / chart is referenced for this hand
you are wrong because this hand is UTG open vs MP 3bet
Great analysis
On the second hand (QQ) couldnt villain's range include AK too?
Maybe, but then he probably wouldnt have played the flop and turn like that. Unless he was just C betting as a bluff after missing his AK.
This a easy fold pre flop with the QQ btw at 4:28 if mp wasn't deep that I also would want to get involved. We are just trying to flop a set here mainly against this mp player to win a big stack. He has AA or KK once he cb the flop from bb. Hes not messing around here. Hes not going to squeeze as often being in the bb getting a good price to set mine with weaker pairs when hes 140bb deep. I believe around 160bb is where it is profitable to set mine someone. They don't gamble like that at these lower limits. They want to hit a set as cheap as possible. The QQ once he cb. It is really not a hard spot to fold. He is not cb AK and you only beat JJ and lost to KK and AA. The odds are against you based on the dynamic. This is not rocket science stuff. You can't just say i have QQ I have over pair I am not folding. You have to have very strong reads that particular player is a gambler to go with QQ as bluff catcher. If you don't fold your hand then go cry on 2+2 how you got coolered and you're running bad. Instead of going through students hands i let them go through mine. And they wonder how I am folding all these spots amazed by it. These are easy folds. I don't get how they don't fold. It is like they don't think.
I can sense your frustration watching this player continuing in spots he shouldn't even think of, trust me, I feel the same.
Wtf, first hand QTo "could be a flop call" 😂
Can someone explain what he means by "merged range"? Great video btw
A polarized range is when a player likely only holds great cards or terrible cards. A merged range is when a player has all the soupy middle-strength stuff.
Anyone know why calling KJ in position against a smaller stack is so terribly wrong, or 3-betting is so bad its reckless? I'm not saying its a great hand, but its a very tight calling range that always excludes KJ on a 6-ring while on the cut off. I would think this was a call all day, I dont think I would 3-bet it often, but a straight fold? why?
Is playing long sessions a bad idea?)
I play races on GG for 24 hours hahaha
Mate I'm stuck at 2nl
low stakes player are afraid of valuing 。lack of multie betting size on each streets。nits alwaysmiss value when recs join the game
Fold QQ on the turn because he always have AA or KK. Fold river because now there is four to a straight and he suddenly has a 6 :))))
How is playing a 2 hour session too long? Do you mean play for an hour, sit out for 10 minutes the come back for another hour etc?
Human concentration wains a good bit before two hours especially with intense formats like fast fold. Yep I think a 10 minute break every hour or so is a big improvement on playing for two hours with no sit out.
Yeah this does make sense actually@@CarrotCornerPoker
Quality video
8:04 that is the worst -ev thing he could of done in a vacuum. that is 100% a losing call in a vacuum vs mp 3b range. You sound result oriented to me to say its a good call. I notice people who teach then to be result oriented cause they see the results. This a bad call. If anything he should be turning his hand into bluff check jamming the river. Calling was the worst decision he could of made. I would of check jammed. We have all the boats here and he don't. I guess we just think differently. But I am 100% sure this is a losing call long term. Pre flop ya he was tilted and I agree hes playing way to long. That is big thing with students that have improved their results was cutting their sessions shorter and playing more of them. Instead of one long session I could it down 2 or 3 and they made more money. If you get tired or impatient you gotta stop playing. Poker is not going anywhere but tilting off your money only makes it worse.
He is calling a 3bet from mp vs utg with J8s…
And 4bets with KJo
great video
man, idk, i think if this guy was BE at nl50 doing these plays, i think he was running hot, because he commit some really bad mistakes for nl50.
7mins into the video and I dont even understand, how this playa is breakeven at NL50.
He should be loosing there with this QTo and J8s play...
Sorry but there is no way this guy is breaking even
Is he your student?
great voice
I don't agree with playing tighter range at micros. I played pretty wide range because like your student they are very bad post flop players. That is how your max your ev at micros is playing wider ranges. I crushed a prop bet I said I could win at 10bb/ 100 at micros from 10nl up 50nl and i had to win 50 buyins at each limit and then we saw what the win rate was. I didn't just beat at 10bb i won around 20bb at each limit. Even at 50nl I won around 13bb win rate. They are very bad post flop players. At 100nl is where you do have tighten up cause they don't make bad mistakes you see at lower limits. So imo I disagree with you on tighter ranges. You are giving them way to much credit to being decent post flop players. They are god awful.
I'm stuck at 5nl. I literally feel like I can't win. I grind 6 hours a day only play good hands, look for good spots to get my money In and I'm wrong literally every time. I study constantly and watch hand reviews and play alot and i love the game but I'm really close to giving up for good I think. I must just be a moron
Dont give up. The best way to learn the game is day dreaming about It. Do It and Will start tô understand things much deeper. Dont listen passively people. Do It actively and think for yourself. Put your Head to work
@infosrelevantes7146 thanks man. It's just so discouraging to keep going. I try so hard and get no results. Seems like I always make the wrong decision in those big pots where it matters most no matter what I do.
Rake is highest at these lower stakes so keep that in mind. I’m in the same situation as you were I’m losing at 5nl. The pool is very bad and yet I still am losing while I feel like I am better than the average player at these stakes. because of rake the gap between skill of the average player over a winning player has to be much higher. I’m going to keep trying good luck to you my friend
@@idzoavitsi4211 you are not supposed to play "only good hands" - that is why you can't win
you sound like an absolute nit
Great video but your student is lying, there's no way he's break even.
You mean he’s a SCAMMER????
how is this player even BE
🐰🥕 GLHF.
Overbet more often. On bluffs and nutted hands.
what I would really suggest that people should encourage others to work hard to make money and not making people think that there is skill in gambling. Poker should just be a game of fun and time killing especially for seniors who retired and don’t have much to do. Only play to have fun without expecting to make money out of it because it’s not going to happen
cannot take a break in Tourneys
This student isn't very good. Has a lot of work to do before he moves up in stakes.
:D
Hi, I play an unusual and interesting format, 10bb cash poker on sky poker. The rake is high but the oppositions skill level is low. Initially people think it’s bingo poker but actually it’s incredibly interesting, nuanced and a lot more fun (imo) than 100bb+. There’s little to no content on this (all that there is, is for tournament play).
Would you ever consider coaching/looking at the format?
I mean, no offense, but... That's definitely bingo poker. There's no room to play the game with 10BBs. The game is basically reduced to a preflop shove/fold chart at that point.
10bb lmao. That’s like all in call pre flop most the time and if not it makes the game just weird and doesn’t seem to apply.
There’s no way you actually think a format that’s solved by charts that can be memorised completely within a few weeks of playing the game is more interesting.
that is a push or fold poker and its solved
if you are ever seeing a flop ur blundering
When did cash games in online poker go to showing "big blinds" for a players stack instead of how much dollars cash are in a players stack and why?
you can probably adjust it in your settings. it's just one less step of math you have to do yourself
Money is completely irrelevant to the gameplay and it complicates the real time calculation
I tried my best using your tipps but I got broke 2 times with 30 € on 1/2 ct and 2/5 ct tables. My score with AA - JJ + AK is negetive lol. I almost always lose big hands against weird randome stuff
The QQ vs AA hand for the second example: should we not be 3 betting our QQ especially with position. For two reasons, one to extract more value against weaker hands (especially if we suspect a squeeze) and two if we get four bet we can easily fold and we gathered the information cheaper than calling a large turn bet.
this deep you can do both i guess. just call against nits and raise against regs
especially 6 handed
I’ll teach you boy, teach you to give me your money hahhaha
lul this guy isn't going to break -even with a few tweaks, what are u even saying, I saw some horrible plays especially the j8ss and then call to the 3b, like wtf?
Yeah honestly seeing that there are regs who are this bad at 50NL gives me hope of beating the game lol
the open isnt a bad play 6 handed. the call is debatable. he did stack his opponent on that hand.
This guy is definitely not a break even 50NL player. You couldn't beat 25NL with this stuff.
Why would you know? People survive on almost variance alone sometimes
Usually not over a long enough time span
This is one of the best poker leak videos I've ever seen - thanks so much!
The leak is having u as his coach
No way hes even
Surprised this person is break even at 50nl. I lose at 25nl and play better than this. But maybe just focusing on his worst hands gives a biased perception of his play.
You know its funny because I remember the old advice was if you're not playing long sessions then you're not playing deep stacked which means you're missing out on a ton of value and mistakes that happen when you're that deep. Now it seems the logic has flipped.
What do you think about Saulo Costa's latest videos where he says recreational players over bluff on the river? He basically says to forget what you've been told about recreational players underbluffing and that he has analyzed millions of hands and recreational players tend to overbluff the river. He even went as far as to say "never fold the river against a recreational player"
subscribed, didn't agree with all points but I enjoy the logic
2 hours straight? I pee in a bottle if there’s a fish at the table
Great video! you got a new subscriber.
I love your teaching and I love you generally, I wish I could afford you coaching
“Bet your equity” is the best idea I’ve heard in a long time. If you think you’ve got a 60% chance of winning, don’t bet half pot, bet 60% pot. If it’s 20%, try a small blocker bet and see what happens. I will apply this idea the next few poker sessions!
I think you’re misunderstanding. This is when you’re value betting.
65-75% - B33
75-85% - B75
85%+ - B150
The point isn’t to match your equity to your bet size literally
@@CarrotCornerPoker Ah. Thank you for clarifying. I'll test out the idea you clarified for me. I have to admit, figuring out bet size is not my #1 strength, but your advice should help a lot.
@@CarrotCornerPoker How would you recommend to get focused before you play to make sure you’re 100% zoned in from the very first hand? Also, do you set a time at 1hr or something and get up and take like a 30 minute break or what? I ask bc I have also noticed I win a ton my first hour or 2 but past that it’s a shit show sometimes. I also have now set a 3bi stop loss which has helped but I need to play shorter sessions and be zoned in from the get go. Thanks in advance if you get time to answer my questions. Best regards.
Is this actually breakeven play at 50NL??
Doesn't seem like it would be unless pool is awful.
He's showing the mistakes / leaks
What I was thinking lmfaooo@@buywiththebeard
that's what he said.
Hard to believe. Not sure if QQ is such a obvious fold.
Awesome video I learned a lot thank you.
Just my opinion here: I really dont agree with the ATd river bet when you say we always need to size up when we have over 90% equity.
Getting called on the river is where we make the most money so making a worse hand fold is a disaster.
I would always try to put thoughts in it depending on the profile. Fish loose yes size up.
A passive player who you put on a mediocre hand, definitely bet small as they will always fold to your big bets there at these limits.
I have read Alexander Fitzgerald saying something similar in one of his book about Live Poker.
Does the different approach on river bets come from data you have seen specifically at these online stakes or is it a general statement?
Do ypu think in Live poker we need the same approach too?
this is such a backwards and losing way to view poker.
study so you can understand the allowable and reasonble sizing schemes. then study how the regs and recs at your stakes play and understand what sizing schemes you can build your range around that maximises ev. it's usually very big, then print money. When you build your ranges correct, you don't care if vil folds here you still make money on bluffs. if their ranges struggle vs a specific sizing scheme you choose that.
@@agnorax Thats kinda what I say when I mention that sizing should differ depending on villain profile. And no need to be offensive it is just a question I am asking. Thank you
in theory you should just bet big on river when you have a big hand, simple as that