I love buying and holding instead of flipping. That was a great transformation. I love your work. I just got my first rental property and I made a video about it. I can’t wait to scale up. Thanks for the inspiration
Buying and holding is like buying a dividend stock instead of a growth stock that makes you a 30% return in a year 🤡 selling when you can and buying a new property with more cash in your pocket makes way more sense
BiggerPockets this was a great video containing a lot of good information. Please consider adding more content like this. Maybe in Florida/Jacksonville area.
I didn’t see that you had considered for any maintenance cost and any utility cost in your cashflow calculation. In best case, the property will do $250 cashflow. This property will make 8-12% cashflow which is great, but 28% is misleading and I don’t think it is true. Great content though!
I love the transformation, but I am concerned about cashflow being calculated as rent above debt service. There are definitely going to be operating expenses that need to be accounted for.
This video was OUTSTANDING!! He explained everything perfectly and when he used terminologies he explained what they were rather than expecting us to know. I LOVED how he went into detail on everything. Overall an outstanding video!!!
Don't forget, you have to hire someone to manage your property and hold back maintenance cost as well. Unless you are going to manage the property yourself. Here in Texas, it'll cost you 1/2 of the first month rent and 10% monthly management fee. So, your ROI will be reduced by at least 50% of your numbers to include maintenance fund as well.
Wow. Such a huge job. I remember watching some of your first videos on this property, Tarl, when I started my first BRRRR project back in March. I was thankfully able to get my rehab done in two months and I just refinanced out at 3.875% on Friday. I've got a paying tenant which gives me a 25% ROI. Could not be happier. Now I'm looking for my next deal. Trying for a duplex or triplex if I can find it.
Showing us how to do a floor plan would be a great video. Please do make a video of your process and walkthrough of how it's done on the computer program.
Man! It would be nice to see these projects like this more often. More of these BRRRR or flip projects on biggerpockets would be great to see. Kind of like a continuation of the discussions they have now. A series would be great, talking about the issues they had to overcome, some pointers, and then go over the numbers.
Fellow PNW dude here!!! Man let me tell you this is the 1st time stumbling onto your RUclips videos and absolutely think your one of the most detailed and informative guys on RUclips. I am a huge fan of BP as well, but this is the 1st time Ive seen one of your videos. Thank you Tarl and I am too starting to invest in the PNW but over in the Columbia Gorge, you have helped me out a bunch with this man!
I enjoyed the explanation. Tarl explained how and why he made the decisions he did for this BRRRR. It was very helpful to understand how he calculated his ROI for this project.
24 years old and just started out just got my 1st now working on my 2nd thank you for all of the knowledge you guys teach me you and Rich Dad poor you guys are changing my life
A video on the pro/cons of hiring an architect, draftsman, or using a combo of home design software and contractor would be great. When it is better to hire a professional vs "doing it yourself", when and how to use building professionals (engineers, architects, inspectors) most effectively, etc. Also, when in the design phase do you start estimating building cost? Do you have a budget beforehand you know you want to stay under or do you come up with several floor plans, get cost estimates for each plan and then adjust accordingly? For the project in this video, did you have to submit the floor plan to the county? Maybe this varies from state to state or single family home vs multifamily?
Your videos are amazing, brother. Your real-life examples are incredibly valuable. Thanks so much for sharing what you do. You’re helping a lot of people.
An important thing to look at is the value added versus the cost to produce that value. Being able to come up with the best ratio is a factor for resale's and for rental's value.
Charles Reid : perhaps the government should take over all property ownership and management. Surely that will lead us closer to "utopia". Before you endorse this idea; have a look at government owned and government run residential housing in urban areas, otherwise known as "the projects " and ask yourself if that is a model that you would like to see spread across the country on a larger scale. It would be like the Soviet Union, where everyone has "equal" housing so everyone can be poor and miserable together without having to worry about someone else having a nicer house than they do.
Hi question here: why are expenses like capex, vacancy, and fixing the property when things break not part of the analysis? I know that isn’t a fixed expense but when I look at deals that is the part that makes them not work for me. I will analyze and leaving that out everything looks amazing but adding them in drops the ROI to low
Thanks for motivating me to lear more and make my own content. Great to see your channel grow and read all of these positive comments. Has anyone here was able to take advantage of low interest rates?
Expenses? 🤷♂️ Rent: $2,500 Vacancy: 5% - $125 Management: 5% - $125 Repairs: 1% - $25 Cap Ex: 1% - $25 Expenses = $300 Bringing cash flow to: $175p/mo / $2,100p/yr. Yielding a 10.5% return. I don’t know the market where you are but I feel my percentages are conservative.
23:49 High equity? Where is the equity? He borrowed for the house, renovation & shelled out on holding/borrowing costs ($327k liability). He crosses his fingers and gets a $415k valuation from his appraiser. The bank lets him borrow 75 percent of that ($311k) to (partially) pay off his original lenders so now he has $311k liability with BANK#2 and $16k liability with BANK#1 and an asset with unknown valuation producing $475 net cash flow a month. What were the terms of the original financing? How did he pay for the renovation? Was that out-of-pocket or from the original “hard money" and “private” lenders he mentioned? What am I missing here?
I’m interested in knowing how much of the renovations is done in house by you guys? I am interested in doing my first BRRRR but I am not a great handyman. Wondering if this investment approach is still generally profitable if you rely on majority of contractors to do the work.
Thank you Tarl and BiggerPockets for sharing this insightful how-to video. I am wondering how does the private money lender and/or hard money lender get paid their full investment since the LTV won't be enough to pull out 100% of the out of pocket costs? Thank you in advance.
Love the video, I have done a far amount of new construction, this has helped to inspire me to get back into real estate. You make it look so easy. I like the analysis. Keep doing that, look forward to watching more vids. The key to doing this is what Dave Ramsey says, "you make money on the purchase". That's vertually impossible here. To many people are buying so the purchase price does not leave the "around" 25% equity left at the end. And the hard money here is 15-20% with points and interest. And I don't have a rich uncle like some people have! 😬That's why I quit. I would like to figure out how to buy like all these very successful real estate go roos!! If you do see this I would like to get some information on that, I really like doing this kind of work.
If you are a new house flipper or new to BRRRR and you have to compete against someone like Tarl Yarber, it will be very difficult to win. His deep experience, inhouse team, connection to financing and wealth will make him a winner in almost house he buys.
What kind of loan are you getting on it? Is it a regular conventional loan on your personal name using your own income to qualify? Or is an investor loan with these banks that use rental income to qualify? Thank you. Great video.
Yeah I thought it was a good question too. What I’ve done so far is refinances with banks that qualify the property with their rentals under my LLC. The rates are 5.5% at 60% LTV, thought they would be lower.
Hi Tarl. Great video. I am interested in the design program you used. I'm finding one from Chief Architect called 'Home Designer Suite'. I also found one from Virtual Architect called 'Pro Home Design'. Are either of these the one you use? Thank you for your answer.
I have two questions. First, why do you use private lenders and hard money lenders to finance the purchase and renovation of your brrrr’s? I’m assuming you have the money to purchase the homes so it makes me wonder if maybe there is an advantage of using hard money and paying what seems to be unnecessary interest instead of using your own cash. Second, if you could go back in time at what point would you start keeping properties for cash flow and equity instead of selling? Would that point be 200k , 500k, 1 million in the bank ?
Thanks for the detail. I really got it how equity and other RoI adding up over time and compensating the investment. But I did not see you talking about the other monthly expenses like, 1. vacancy, 2, Mentainance + Cap Ex, 3 Management Cost 4, Selling cost if you sale, . I suppose another 25% to 35% Cost need to have in consideration or be aware of. Thanks for all the effort. Learning everday.
Seattle is crazy expensive. That house originally would’ve cost maybe 40-50k here in OKC. But the ARV probably would be only between 150-170k depending on what area of the city.
Great video! Question: do you include expenses (maintenance, cap ex, etc) in your PITI? It looked like when you were running the number you only subtracted the financing from the income (I didn’t see a line item for operating expenses). Any insight on this would be great. Thanks again for the video!
He mentions that since everything is new that he does not factor in Cap Ex. Vacancy is also mentioned as a cost in his rehab - not sure how they factored that in tough. I agree though, seems a bit tight.
It seems like adding a bathroom might not pay off in the near future but would pay off hugely in the long run, and quicker rentals and maybe a little bit higher rents. No?
great video...clearly one on the most important elements is the re-hab cost. How can you get that amount of work done for $85K? Can you break down what you are paying for all the work? I'm in Phoenix and contractors would likely charge double what you paid.
My question is: What does your entire team consist of as far as positions/responsibilities? You've mentioned general contractor but you've also mentioned other small jobs that get handled by other folks off screen (like building floor plans). I am trying to put a team together and I want to make sure I cover all my bases and don't overwhelm myself. Thanks.
Great video 👍🏼. At what point do you funnel your own capital in to cover all the lending? After the refinance you pay the hard money and private capital off out of pocket?
Thank You for the insight. Would it make any sense to do an all cash process. Bank fees and loan cost are a lot. I am 66 and don't have a 25 year time horizon. New to real estate investing.
This was inspiring! I’m new to investing and just got my first property cash flowing $600. I was shocked when he said he spent $85k on the rehab. Is that normal? How can you be certain you will make the rehab money back in equity or when property is sold?
This looks a lot like the 3/1s I see here in Denver, especially with that 415k appraisal he mentioned! Buying my first property in this market, and trust me it is crazy out here.
Let me know if this is incorrect: I think the effective ROI is even higher, as a significant portion of the mortgage is principle, which goes into your portion of the equity.
I love buying and holding instead of flipping. That was a great transformation. I love your work. I just got my first rental property and I made a video about it. I can’t wait to scale up. Thanks for the inspiration
Buying and holding is like buying a dividend stock instead of a growth stock that makes you a 30% return in a year 🤡 selling when you can and buying a new property with more cash in your pocket makes way more sense
@@pj0017 it's called passive income
Great great great video, we need more of these deal analysis scenarios, really helps understanding the whole process.
What do you think about this BRRRR investment? Let us know below!
I love the down to earth way tarl explains stuff. I love the Brrrr idea as well. Love the fact that you can make 28% on 20k
BiggerPockets this was a great video containing a lot of good information. Please consider adding more content like this. Maybe in Florida/Jacksonville area.
Do a video on the house design software
I didn’t see that you had considered for any maintenance cost and any utility cost in your cashflow calculation. In best case, the property will do $250 cashflow. This property will make 8-12% cashflow which is great, but 28% is misleading and I don’t think it is true. Great content though!
I love the transformation, but I am concerned about cashflow being calculated as rent above debt service. There are definitely going to be operating expenses that need to be accounted for.
This video was OUTSTANDING!! He explained everything perfectly and when he used terminologies he explained what they were rather than expecting us to know. I LOVED how he went into detail on everything. Overall an outstanding video!!!
Don't forget, you have to hire someone to manage your property and hold back maintenance cost as well. Unless you are going to manage the property yourself. Here in Texas, it'll cost you 1/2 of the first month rent and 10% monthly management fee. So, your ROI will be reduced by at least 50% of your numbers to include maintenance fund as well.
Question: do you own any rental properties in texas anymore?
I find these videos to be way more informative and engaging than anything else on Bigger Pockets. Keep them coming, Tarl.
Wow. Such a huge job. I remember watching some of your first videos on this property, Tarl, when I started my first BRRRR project back in March. I was thankfully able to get my rehab done in two months and I just refinanced out at 3.875% on Friday. I've got a paying tenant which gives me a 25% ROI. Could not be happier. Now I'm looking for my next deal. Trying for a duplex or triplex if I can find it.
Awesome job! Keep crushing it
How did you find your first brrr? And how are you looking for the multi?
I would always add a 2nd bathroom, the resell value in the future is always more and you almost always get more money for rents.
Showing us how to do a floor plan would be a great video. Please do make a video of your process and walkthrough of how it's done on the computer program.
Man! It would be nice to see these projects like this more often. More of these BRRRR or flip projects on biggerpockets would be great to see. Kind of like a continuation of the discussions they have now. A series would be great, talking about the issues they had to overcome, some pointers, and then go over the numbers.
realty enjoy Tarl's property walk around. I learn so much every time. i am in South Africa BTW
I love these types of videos! They are so informative. Please keep doing walkthroughs and analysis afterwards.
Fellow PNW dude here!!! Man let me tell you this is the 1st time stumbling onto your RUclips videos and absolutely think your one of the most detailed and informative guys on RUclips. I am a huge fan of BP as well, but this is the 1st time Ive seen one of your videos. Thank you Tarl and I am too starting to invest in the PNW but over in the Columbia Gorge, you have helped me out a bunch with this man!
Using trees to block noise was a great idea! It's also environmentally friendly :)
Yes and not much costly as other options. I am doing the same for my investment house!
There are also noise canceling fences fyi
I enjoyed the explanation. Tarl explained how and why he made the decisions he did for this BRRRR. It was very helpful to understand how he calculated his ROI for this project.
I remember watching the first walkthrough Tarl did of this property! Such an awesome transformation.
I'm only 3 minutes in and I'm smiling….good stuff...
24 years old and just started out just got my 1st now working on my 2nd thank you for all of the knowledge you guys teach me you and Rich Dad poor you guys are changing my life
Thanks! This is Tarl
Same rich Dad poor Dad gave a new resolution. I'm working on getting my first deal right now. Will be doing an addition too! I love this shit
A video on the pro/cons of hiring an architect, draftsman, or using a combo of home design software and contractor would be great. When it is better to hire a professional vs "doing it yourself", when and how to use building professionals (engineers, architects, inspectors) most effectively, etc. Also, when in the design phase do you start estimating building cost? Do you have a budget beforehand you know you want to stay under or do you come up with several floor plans, get cost estimates for each plan and then adjust accordingly? For the project in this video, did you have to submit the floor plan to the county? Maybe this varies from state to state or single family home vs multifamily?
Your videos are amazing, brother. Your real-life examples are incredibly valuable. Thanks so much for sharing what you do. You’re helping a lot of people.
Excellent, Excellent, Excellent video!!! Really love the format. Show property before and afters then detail though the numbers. Keep up it up.
Thanks for sharing! Especially the part about why you didn’t add a second bathroom but instead made sure the one bathroom was large!
An important thing to look at is the value added versus the cost to produce that value. Being able to come up with the best ratio is a factor for resale's and for rental's value.
That post supporting the roof over the kitchen door is really something. Nice job overall
Wow, you guys did excellent in explaining the ROI, whether it was a good deal, etc., Thank you!! Subscribed and liked!
Some serious sweat equity here. Big project
Landlordism is satanism.
@@charlesreid5137 you're right. They should have just left this place trashed, falling apart, rat infested and overall uninhabitable.
Charles Reid : perhaps the government should take over all property ownership and management. Surely that will lead us closer to "utopia". Before you endorse this idea; have a look at government owned and government run residential housing in urban areas, otherwise known as "the projects " and ask yourself if that is a model that you would like to see spread across the country on a larger scale. It would be like the Soviet Union, where everyone has "equal" housing so everyone can be poor and miserable together without having to worry about someone else having a nicer house than they do.
@@charlesreid5137 lmao what? Tell me you’re a liberal with out telling me you’re a liberal.
@@matthewknotts7003 lol
Fantastic video on explaining your strategy and I especially appreciate the walk through! Being on site helps immensely
Please do more videos like this! Great detailed info.
Definitely need a video on how to use designer pro
Agreed!!
Great video. Very informative and detailed. Thank you for sharing. BiggerPockets, please add more content like this.
Very good video. Like the way you broke down every detail of the rehab and the financial
Amazing content Tarl. Please let us know what it appraises for!
Tarl, you always bring the good stuff brother. Thanks, you're one of my favorites.
Awe shucks! Thanks Stanley 😊
Amazing video! Thorough walkthrough and doing the numbers manually. Keep this content coming! Thank you.
Nice find, nice rehab. As a multifamily broker in Florida, opportunities are few but a well thought out remodel always pays handsomely.
Hi question here: why are expenses like capex, vacancy, and fixing the property when things break not part of the analysis? I know that isn’t a fixed expense but when I look at deals that is the part that makes them not work for me. I will analyze and leaving that out everything looks amazing but adding them in drops the ROI to low
Thanks for motivating me to lear more and make my own content. Great to see your channel grow and read all of these positive comments. Has anyone here was able to take advantage of low interest rates?
Expenses? 🤷♂️
Rent: $2,500
Vacancy: 5% - $125
Management: 5% - $125
Repairs: 1% - $25
Cap Ex: 1% - $25
Expenses = $300
Bringing cash flow to: $175p/mo / $2,100p/yr. Yielding a 10.5% return.
I don’t know the market where you are but I feel my percentages are conservative.
27:00
This video was very helpful to clarify the entire process. Thank you for producing such great content and being so open with your numbers.
23:49 High equity? Where is the equity?
He borrowed for the house, renovation & shelled out on holding/borrowing costs ($327k liability).
He crosses his fingers and gets a $415k valuation from his appraiser.
The bank lets him borrow 75 percent of that ($311k) to (partially) pay off his original lenders so now he has $311k liability with BANK#2 and $16k liability with BANK#1 and an asset with unknown valuation producing $475 net cash flow a month.
What were the terms of the original financing?
How did he pay for the renovation? Was that out-of-pocket or from the original “hard money" and “private” lenders he mentioned?
What am I missing here?
What a great video. No BS, to the point, very informative. Thanks
I’m interested in knowing how much of the renovations is done in house by you guys? I am interested in doing my first BRRRR but I am not a great handyman. Wondering if this investment approach is still generally profitable if you rely on majority of contractors to do the work.
I freaking love these videos, keep em coming!
Thank you Tarl and BiggerPockets for sharing this insightful how-to video. I am wondering how does the private money lender and/or hard money lender get paid their full investment since the LTV won't be enough to pull out 100% of the out of pocket costs? Thank you in advance.
Love the video, I have done a far amount of new construction, this has helped to inspire me to get back into real estate. You make it look so easy. I like the analysis. Keep doing that, look forward to watching more vids. The key to doing this is what Dave Ramsey says, "you make money on the purchase". That's vertually impossible here. To many people are buying so the purchase price does not leave the "around" 25% equity left at the end. And the hard money here is 15-20% with points and interest. And I don't have a rich uncle like some people have! 😬That's why I quit. I would like to figure out how to buy like all these very successful real estate go roos!! If you do see this I would like to get some information on that, I really like doing this kind of work.
If you are a new house flipper or new to BRRRR and you have to compete against someone like Tarl Yarber, it will be very difficult to win. His deep experience, inhouse team, connection to financing and wealth will make him a winner in almost house he buys.
I appreciate the breakdown and explanation. Thank you 😊
You are amazing man! You educated me too much. Keep it up. Thanks alot
Excellent video. You guys should do more like this. I'm positive you'll get more subscribers. Keep up the good work.
Very educational for a newbie...
I love Tarl’s videos. Always great info. Thanks
Awesome job. A lot of creativity for making a great home.
What kind of loan are you getting on it? Is it a regular conventional loan on your personal name using your own income to qualify? Or is an investor loan with these banks that use rental income to qualify? Thank you. Great video.
Sucks you didnt get a reply.good question
Yeah I thought it was a good question too. What I’ve done so far is refinances with banks that qualify the property with their rentals under my LLC. The rates are 5.5% at 60% LTV, thought they would be lower.
This was Awesome!! Easy to follow and understand. Thank you!
Great video, you explained everything very well!
Hi Tarl. Great video. I am interested in the design program you used. I'm finding one from Chief Architect called 'Home Designer Suite'. I also found one from Virtual Architect called 'Pro Home Design'. Are either of these the one you use? Thank you for your answer.
Awesome showing us all the details!
I have two questions. First, why do you use private lenders and hard money lenders to finance the purchase and renovation of your brrrr’s? I’m assuming you have the money to purchase the homes so it makes me wonder if maybe there is an advantage of using hard money and paying what seems to be unnecessary interest instead of using your own cash. Second, if you could go back in time at what point would you start keeping properties for cash flow and equity instead of selling? Would that point be 200k , 500k, 1 million in the bank ?
How do you analyze what to buy the house for and how much to spend on Reno and what a good deal is?
Thanks for the detail. I really got it how equity and other RoI adding up over time and compensating the investment. But I did not see you talking about the other monthly expenses like, 1. vacancy, 2, Mentainance + Cap Ex, 3 Management Cost 4, Selling cost if you sale, . I suppose another 25% to 35% Cost need to have in consideration or be aware of. Thanks for all the effort. Learning everday.
Seattle is crazy expensive. That house originally would’ve cost maybe 40-50k here in OKC. But the ARV probably would be only between 150-170k depending on what area of the city.
I’m assuming your PITI #’s don’t include any vacancy and property management? Fantastic ROI either way.
this guy reminds me of Stu off of the hangover lol
😂😂😂nah vlad tv
I thoroughly enjoyed this video especially the end running the numbers! Thank you!!
Great video! Question: do you include expenses (maintenance, cap ex, etc) in your PITI?
It looked like when you were running the number you only subtracted the financing from the income (I didn’t see a line item for operating expenses). Any insight on this would be great. Thanks again for the video!
Never mind you answered my question later in the video 😅
You did not account for expenses (vacancy, management, Capex, utilities, etc) in your cash flow?? Seems super tight!
He mentions that since everything is new that he does not factor in Cap Ex. Vacancy is also mentioned as a cost in his rehab - not sure how they factored that in tough. I agree though, seems a bit tight.
I loved this video. Thanks Tarl
Love this type of video !!! Keep going ! Thanks you for sharing all the explanations, trics, ...
Cool content. Thank you for sharing 🙌 BRRRRRR!
If you have a team . How do you do a partnership. What’s the cut for everyone ?
It seems like adding a bathroom might not pay off in the near future but would pay off hugely in the long run, and quicker rentals and maybe a little bit higher rents. No?
saying $475 in cash flow but not setting aside any reserves for vacancy, repairs, or cap x?
great video...clearly one on the most important elements is the re-hab cost. How can you get that amount of work done for $85K? Can you break down what you are paying for all the work? I'm in Phoenix and contractors would likely charge double what you paid.
Thank you! I always learn things from you, Tarl!
Great content Tarl, this was super informative!
Such a gold nugget info. Thnkz appreciate. You sharing your experience. 👍💯🙏
"Vertically challenged" 🤣
What is the relationship of your private lender to the property? Is his or her loan secured by the property? Co-owner? Other?
Gen
Genuine question: Would it be crazy expensive to raise the ceiling/roof of the addition?
BRRRR made simple. Excellent...
My question is: What does your entire team consist of as far as positions/responsibilities? You've mentioned general contractor but you've also mentioned other small jobs that get handled by other folks off screen (like building floor plans). I am trying to put a team together and I want to make sure I cover all my bases and don't overwhelm myself. Thanks.
Awesome content once again!! These videos are so packed with useful information.. Thanks again BP!
Another great vid man! What company do you get your kitchen cabinetry from? They look awesome!
Awesome video, appreciate the real world example!
Great video 👍🏼. At what point do you funnel your own capital in to cover all the lending? After the refinance you pay the hard money and private capital off out of pocket?
What would the cost and value been for the second bathroom?
Thank You for the insight. Would it make any sense to do an all cash process. Bank fees and loan cost are a lot. I am 66 and don't have a 25 year time horizon. New to real estate investing.
can you do the BRRRR method using a partners money for a downpayment instead? How would refinancing work in that case?
Who's paying the utilities, is it us or the renter? Have to factor them into the PITI or the rent...
15:40 where the numbers start.
6:00 "It's like HGTV but real!" You clownin them hahaha
Love these walkthrough analysis. VERY helpful. One question, how long do you plan to keep the property and what will you return look like at the end?
This was inspiring! I’m new to investing and just got my first property cash flowing $600. I was shocked when he said he spent $85k on the rehab. Is that normal? How can you be certain you will make the rehab money back in equity or when property is sold?
MLS previously sold houses. Gives you a benchmark on prices...b
@@brandonlifefamily8331 what does MLS stand for?
@@farmermike9262 multiple listing service
Very helpful, thank you for sharing your knowledge
What are the holding cost? There are fees attached to the loans?
Hey! Great video. What was the location??
This looks a lot like the 3/1s I see here in Denver, especially with that 415k appraisal he mentioned! Buying my first property in this market, and trust me it is crazy out here.
Just got to the part where he said this house was in Seattle. Cheers!
Christopher Edmunds oh i missed that, thanks!
Christopher Edmunds Seattle is so expensive compared to where I live lol because 415k ARV is great lol
It's technically just outside of Seattle in a city called Renton
Great video but something I don’t understand, when you refinanced that house how much money do you get back ? 311k right ?
Let me know if this is incorrect: I think the effective ROI is even higher, as a significant portion of the mortgage is principle, which goes into your portion of the equity.
You are correct, however, he is talking about cash on cash return. Equity isn't necessary liquid cash yet.
@@CoolBig2 Thanks!
Very cool project. Congrats
How much harder does the remodel become once you start tearing walls down? As far as permits
That’s okay.. still not including vacancy and maintenance that need to be accounted for. Sure its 30% coc but its still 5k a year.
Yeah but you got 10 properties like that, thats 50k