He also throughout the story, he gets taller with Alisaie. My female Miqo'te is the shortest you can be for the race and in ARR, I think he went up to my chest in height, now we're in Shadowbringers and he's almost as tall as my character. lol The twins are growing and we're witnessing it as the story progresses. It's great!
I just finished ARR and transition to Heavensward She went from a commander to a.... well maybe her when she started her career as a babe and not had to deal with the kind of shit the commander of a pirate faction would have to endure. The last thing old Merlwyb said in ARR was "DAMN IT ALL" before storming off. It was a great example of the kind of bluntness in her life that had probably moulded her. I'm just hearing her new voice for the first time, and there is nothing in that. They should have re-recorded ARR with the new actors, to prevent all new players from having experience this very jarring transition. It would be in the players interest that they never know differently.
The power in that voice was amazing. The new VA has exudes the power of a wet fart. Though it does seem to match closer to the JP VA. She was one of those super rare cases like Cowboy Bebop and FMA where the DUB is better than the original VA.
I honestly think the Alphinaud voice change comes at the perfect time. ARR has him as a cocky, self-assured child prodigy who projects the image of perfection, which is what he is right until the end of that story. As soon as Heavensward rolls around his confidence is shattered, and we get to see more of him as an actual kid, who doesn't have every life skill he needs, is nervous under pressure, and can occasionally be a bit dorky and insecure. Each voice fits each part of his character arc really well.
Sian Blake was the voice actress for her in Heavensward. Churns my stomach to know what happened, but I'm glad the piece of filth was brought to justice. Damn = /
I was honestly surprised when I learned Y'shtola's voice actor had also changed from ARR because the new voice actor sounds so identical to the original and it scares me lol
Very much the same inflections and vocal habits. Either they intentionally got someone with a similar voice or the VA is amazing. Yda is pretty good too.
I miss "SEVEN HELLS" Merlwyb so much. I looked forward to her scenes just to listen to her gruff voice. I clung to the delusion that her actress might have stayed behind...a piece of my soul broke when that magnificent voice actress departed.
You could hear her voice struggling later on in the game though. I guess older voice actors really struggle with the constant multiple recordings and straining their voice for not the greatest pay.
I agree Alphinaud certainly sound cheeky and full of himself, but i feel it fits and he learns and get more mature after failures. Fun Fact: Old Alphinaud was Sam Riegel and Old Thancred was Taliesin Jaffe both from Critical Roll (Popular DnD Stream on Twitch/RUclips).
Yorkshire Ala Mhigo was the best decision. Giving M'naago, Ilberd, Raubro and Conrad similar accents cements Ala Mhigo as a place with its own identity, I love it.
The old voices weren't bad just a bit on the cartoony side. (Alphinaud was played by a ninja turtle). The new voices really lend to the necessary emotional depth found in the later expansions.
Correction: Alphinaud’s voice was played by Sam Riegel! Sam frickin Riegel! 💕 (He may or may not voice a ninja turtle lol) In seriousness though the last VA crew weren’t given ample time to prepare and were kind of rushed through the process. That’s why even though the VAs themselves are talented, their scripts often had a lot of voicing errors. You can literally hear the difference in the delivery of their lines now vs then. SE are taking better care of them now. So glad Yoshi P and their team took over.
@@e.k_liadon ARR's voice acting sounds like they just gave the voice actors the scripts with only their individual lines and said "just read this." Later voice acting sounds like they had some actual direction, maybe a storyboard or early animation samples for context.
(possible spoiler alert) I’m actually really glad they changed Urianger’s voice actor. Hearing Gideon/Balthier’s familiar voice when un-hooded Urianger first appeared would’ve gave it all away
not going to lie they got pretty close with Y'Shtola's second VA. Thancred's sound similar enough so long as you dont hear them side by side. Yda and Papalymo had different sounding voices, but they got their style and rhythm close enough. Uri's just sounds like his voice got deeper
I actually kinda miss Urianger's old VA, since it was the same as Ignis in FFXV: it had the tone of responsibility and maturity....sometimes, the new Urianger feels like he's smug with his knowledge XD
@nathanosworth4640 Emery Gideon didn't voice Ignis , he voiced Balthier in XII . Adam Croasdell voiced Ignis . And unlike Urianger , Ignis did more than studying and divining . He was the steward of the group and the more diligent of the group .
it's weird, i've gotten used to the new actors for the most part but hearing them side by side just makes the new voices sound alien all over again. taliesin jaffe was great as thancred and it's really a shame they didn't keep him. i will say sam riegel has early alphinaud's little shit personality pretty well perfect, but i like how colin ryan handles his more humbled, grounded persona from heavensward on.
Sam Rigel wasn’t able to consistently keep up the accent so the change over was for tge better IMO. Honestly the only things lost here for me are Talesin and maaaybe Thancred’s VA in ARR. I really appreciate the change to not have all Lalas be squeekers. That would have gotten so old.
Would it be wrong to redub the ARR cutscenes with the new VAs? No offense to the original VAs and not to undermine them, just for the sake of consistency. Just where appropriate.
I think what I liked most was when they stopped trying to make the lalas all sound like children. Nanamo and Tataru especially. I think the most grievous change, however, was Merlwyb's change. No shade on Tracy Ann Oberman as an actor, but she took what Jean Gilpin created and turned it into a pirate caricature. It's never sat right with me.
Literally the only 'old' voice I wish they hadn't changed - her old voice was just so perfect for a tough commanding woman. The most recent voiced scene was better than the ones in stormblood (where she sounded positively girlie) but still not as good as the original.
@@ssjup81 So in the Japanese voices the Lalafell dont all sound high pitched some of the ones in Ul'dah actually had rather deep voice actors doing lines and Pipin is voiced by the person who's known for Adult Link shouts in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time who's also done a bunch of other stuff since
Dunno man, it made lalafel voices actually Unique. Sure it sounded weird in the beginning, but when its a pattern of the race. It makes a lot of sense. The new case everyone sound the same. Average "Wolverine-fallen hero-cool guy voice nº1" and "Average female voice nº1" I hardly can distinguish the characters(With exception of Alphinaud)
I personally am in love with the new cast and they felt more fitting then the original. But I do have a soft spot for some of the old voices. Like Yda being voiced by Mela Lee, Minifila's old VA, and Pipin being voiced by Max Mittelman. But the old cast also had VA's that are pretty common now in dubbing work. So it's nice to hear some fresh voices that you don't hear like everywhere. lol Also watching this, gosh, I miss Papalymo still. ;w;
Papalymo didn't get the writing he deserved. And frankly the switch from Yda to.. Yda was weird. Why did the character go from a complete ditz to a pragmatic strategist?
@@ProfessorGunk Lyse did. She was just acting how she remembered Yda did, she stops pretending to be Yda and starts acting like herself which she originally could only do with Papalymo
I used to feel really attached to ARR Alphinaud and felt it was a bizarre getting use to him in HW. Listening back now to ARR after having nearly completed Shb I cannot believe I liked old Alphinaud. Holy lord the change.
i’m in the exact same boat, i remember being so upset when starting HW and hearing alphinaud’s voice chance, but listening back i just think that the new one fits so much better lol
same here-- i'm partway through stormblood and even now i'm shocked he sounded like that, i almost forgot about it. i think the old VA did a great job, but i just like the new one better. it was still a huge jumpscare when he was the first voice acting i heard in all of HW though lmao
Whenever I hear that voice, I'm reminded of Rachel Alucard from BlazBlue, voiced by the same actress. A gothic aristocratic condescending vampire. Couldn't be farther from Yda.
@@ProfessorGunk They changed studio so now they record in the UK. Alphinaud is a little rough at first but it's a fit eventually. After the events of ARR he's in more of a humbled role who looks up to certain other characters in the story for a time.
It feels like they had a good starting point for them all in ARR but then hit the perfect stride when HW came around. Granted it was incredibly jarring and almost somewhat upsetting at the time but following getting used to them it was undoubtedly a very positive change.
I much prefer the new cast. The voices fit better and the acting is better. Papalymo especially went from nails-on-a-chalkboard annoying to perfectly tolerable.
yeah, i just replayed ARR and HW, and i don't get the bully vibe. i definitely get an "annoyed by her general impulsiveness and tendency to not think things through" vibe, that sometimes creeps over into snarkiness, but it never came off as bullying to me
A reminder that most of this ARR VAs were the same(as far as I've seen) as the ones in 1.0. So they were asked back to a somewhat failing game at the time with probably the knowledge that they would not be hired back since they were moving to a UK(?) Studio over a US one. I did like most of the old Scions VAs along with Raubahn, Merlwyb and Gaius and who knows if they could of gotten back into the grove into HW. That being said I love the current VAs and it's cool to see how Alphinaud's VA has improved over the years.
With really only one exception I MUCH prefer the new voice actors to the old. This may not be the voice actors' fault, mind you, but just the level of direction they were given for their roles. Still, the newer voices just sound a lot more "fantasy" and I appreciate it.
alphinaud's voice actor change was rough... he went from the guy from mephisto from blue exorcist trying to play a teenager, to well his new va, and it was hard to adjust to until I got further along.
I liked the old dub, but I have grown to like the new dub better. I especially like Alphinaud's new voice because he actually sounds more like a teenager.
I like how Alphinaud sounds like he has it together and then he just drops it comes Heavensward-onwards, because his refined voice was just some affectation he did to distance himself.
I really appreciate the new English voice acting, just the same, do I dislike the quality of the audio dropping from some of the voices like post-hw Minfillia, sounding like she's almost swallowing the microphone.
I just finished AAR story and I am so sad of Alphinaud and Thancred having their voices changed :( It's a bit shocking. The old ones sound so much better to me. The rest sound ok from this video but still I immediately heard the difference to look it up only to find many voices had changed. I read why but still dissapointed.
@@leonie7754 well I guess the VA referenced the fact that Urianger is a little bit old fashion - in his manner of speaking and I have no idea if Elezens live hundreds of year that would probably consider his age - old.
People need to give the old voices more credit, I think people just default to "Oh, they changed the voices so obviously they were bad!" but look at these names, Sam Riegel, Gideon Emery... these are top VAs!
You know you might have been a bit TOO obsessed eith Eizen from Tales of Berseria when you heard Thancred's frustrated sigh/groan for all of 3 seconds and immediately make the connection that it's the same VA. Welp. 🙃
I honestly like all the new voice changes especially Thancred and Alphinauds, however I really cant even tell the difference between old urianger and new one
I never realised they changed it except CID Especially Thancred since he felt more like a change in the way he spoke Alphinaud's one was probably the most obvious that I should have noticed
Just got to Heavensward and the VA change is jarring to say the least, some are better but quite a few are worse. Merlwyb and Urianger in particular sound much worse than before, but I guess that's just how it goes with long running games.
They get much better the deeper into the game you get, just like how the ARR voices got much better with each patch all the way to 2.5. It also doesnt help that the actual _quality_ of the recordings in Heavensward is pretty bad too. Merylwyb in particular has some very good voice acting in Shadowbringers.
@@Chocolate83Bunny they sound *vaguely* british because most of the voice actors ARE british and the recording studio is based in the UK. how can they be generic if they're authentic? or would you rather them sound vaguely american?
I'm not entirely sure if I like new Alphinaud or old Alphinaud better. After playing through HW and STB I had forgotten what Sam Riegel's voice sounded like for Alphinaud, but after hearing it again I'm on the fence :/
I used to love his ARR voice and was bummed when it got changed. But I've now gotten used to his new VA (after hearing it for so many years) so I prefer it. :x
So i dont follow voice actors, i just play games and watch animes and dont give it much thought. But now i'm a turned Critter and am in love with the Critical Role community and the nerdy bunch of voice actors playing. I have been playing FFXIV since original 2010 launch and now 11 years later i'm just discovering that ARR voices of Thancred was voiced by Tallison Jaffe, and Alphinaud by Sam Riegal? I'm such an ostrich. trying to find any video footage of it is hard though, i like seeing the actors do the voices. I can't remember Alphinauds original voice sound
I love all the new voices better (the ones in the video, i cant remember who else changed). Maybe it's the writing and the voices. I find it rly distracting if I feel like theyre acting out a Shakespeare play. The new voices have a lot more emotion and feels natural.
They did pretty well with casting the scions new voice actors honestly. They all sound relatively similar though better, giving more character to their well, character. Alphi def sounds less bratty and snobby although I think that was on purpose to show his naivety since there are lines that talk about that. Overall I like to think he calmed down after the crystal braves incident. I will say side characters often have VA changes that suck but oh well. Not too sure why its hard to stick with a Cid VA though. That dude has had like 5 changes its slightly odd
I think Gideon Emery (Uriangers old va) wouldve sounded better as Thancred. I always heard Gideon when Thancred spoke before hearing what he actually sounded like
For anyone that plays Guild Wars 2; Papalymo is/was voiced by the Asura Male PC (Steve Staley), and Alphinaud is/was voiced by Brahm (Sam Riegal--also Teddie from Persona 4.)
Alphinaud as a character was super unlikeable. He was a rich, stuck up snob who thought way too highly of himself despite the fact that he couldn’t actually deliver and it was the WoL’s efforts that created the change he was looking for. Then when he created the Crystal Braves, his Ego was on max! Lol I honestly think if Colins voiced Alphinaud in ARR he wouldn’t have the same level of “arrogant rich prick” that Sam Riegel brought to the table. I think Colins’ depiction of his voice after ARR really reinforces that sense of “Just got my Ego shoved up my ass,” that Sam’s depiction wouldn’t bring to the table. I think the timing of voice changes for Alphinaud was perfect storyline wise in that respect.
Most of them can be explained through aging but ydas was the most extreme change. And Y’stola changed, least as I understand it, the voice actor was murdered irl.
Honestly I think Urianger is the only character that I like both voices for. Well, Y'shtola too, but her two voices are so nearly identical that I'm not counting it.
The only 2 voice changes which were slightly irritating were Thancred (Since the new VA made it sound like he was dead inside) and Cid (He went from being a pilot to a pirate, basically)
Urianger sounds like the person who is like “I went through second puberty, it is a thing all Elezen do” and then pull up a video of him with a worse mic that does not amplify bass that much like he was Thor from Pirate Software.
I heard the NEW English voices first before hearing a new one running MSQ on an alt (because I wanna rerun MSQ to catch little things that I missed). Everytime the twins talk I have to yell SHUT UP ALPHINAUD. XD
Honestly the only 2 voices i miss are Urianger's(I love Gideon Emery, ever since he voiced Balthier in FFXII) although his new voice still suits the character. Now Merlwyb is still a bit harder to get used to, her original voice fit the character so well(also, A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON).
Heavenward beyond is my preferred cast, except for Myrlweb. Although honestly, when the change happened I honestly didn't notice the change. All I noticed was the characters sounded more professional, more world weary and less anime-ish.
I honestly think the changes happened at the correct point. FFXIV ARR was just a string of successes and could have been an anime about the ascension of a Warrior of Light after a previous set of Warrior of Lights failed to stop Dalamud, provided they stop before 2.5. FFXIV Heavsenward-Endwalker is the story about a group of people who suffer to solve long-standing problems and challenge the nihilism of the Ascians.
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I honestly like to think Alphinaud just hit puberty LOL
and became british
Totally agree here
He also throughout the story, he gets taller with Alisaie. My female Miqo'te is the shortest you can be for the race and in ARR, I think he went up to my chest in height, now we're in Shadowbringers and he's almost as tall as my character. lol
The twins are growing and we're witnessing it as the story progresses. It's great!
I actually feel like he sounds like a teenager in HW and beyond, and in ARR sounded like an adult trying to voice a child
trauma puberty makes you british
The most grievous change to me was the change in Merlwyb's voice. I love smoker Merlwyb and I want her to scream at me
Absolutely. The actor's portrayal is up there with Shohreh Aghdashloo for that smokey goodness. Different, but just as unique and interesting.
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON.
I just finished ARR and transition to Heavensward
She went from a commander to a.... well maybe her when she started her career as a babe and not had to deal with the kind of shit the commander of a pirate faction would have to endure.
The last thing old Merlwyb said in ARR was "DAMN IT ALL" before storming off. It was a great example of the kind of bluntness in her life that had probably moulded her.
I'm just hearing her new voice for the first time, and there is nothing in that.
They should have re-recorded ARR with the new actors, to prevent all new players from having experience this very jarring transition. It would be in the players interest that they never know differently.
Saaaaaame!! I miss Merlwyb’s original voice ;3;
The power in that voice was amazing.
The new VA has exudes the power of a wet fart.
Though it does seem to match closer to the JP VA.
She was one of those super rare cases like Cowboy Bebop and FMA where the DUB is better than the original VA.
I honestly think the Alphinaud voice change comes at the perfect time. ARR has him as a cocky, self-assured child prodigy who projects the image of perfection, which is what he is right until the end of that story. As soon as Heavensward rolls around his confidence is shattered, and we get to see more of him as an actual kid, who doesn't have every life skill he needs, is nervous under pressure, and can occasionally be a bit dorky and insecure. Each voice fits each part of his character arc really well.
Yugiri as well. Rest in peace, Yugiri's original voice actress.
Such a horrible incident
@@harakiribanzai2483 what happend?
@@dracotheshadowphoenix she died I believe. Murdered if I recall. May she and her children rest in peace.
Not the original one. Yugiri had 3 voice actresses. The one who voiced her in Heavensward was the one who tragically passed.
Sian Blake was the voice actress for her in Heavensward. Churns my stomach to know what happened, but I'm glad the piece of filth was brought to justice.
Damn = /
I was honestly surprised when I learned Y'shtola's voice actor had also changed from ARR because the new voice actor sounds so identical to the original and it scares me lol
agree, but the new voice had a little subtle "sus" in it, so I personally like it a lot more
New actress is better at acting though
Very much the same inflections and vocal habits. Either they intentionally got someone with a similar voice or the VA is amazing. Yda is pretty good too.
@@XXXmarkysanXXX a little SUS?
@@UmatsuObossa But the first one in ARR is not just a VA, but an actress
I miss "SEVEN HELLS" Merlwyb so much. I looked forward to her scenes just to listen to her gruff voice. I clung to the delusion that her actress might have stayed behind...a piece of my soul broke when that magnificent voice actress departed.
Is it just me or her old voice actor sounded like Elenwen from Skyrim
You could hear her voice struggling later on in the game though. I guess older voice actors really struggle with the constant multiple recordings and straining their voice for not the greatest pay.
@@O.M- it is her. She also voiced Meridia.
A new hand touches the beacon.
The old Alphinaud voice is like a smart cheeky tactician who's self assured of what he does. The new Alphinaud voice is a more serious tactician.
His ARR voice made me think he was plotting something when I first met him. Of course, as time went one, he started fumbling the ball more and more.
nah, they just made his Bri'ish lmao
I agree Alphinaud certainly sound cheeky and full of himself, but i feel it fits and he learns and get more mature after failures.
Fun Fact: Old Alphinaud was Sam Riegel and Old Thancred was Taliesin Jaffe both from Critical Roll (Popular DnD Stream on Twitch/RUclips).
He sounds comically British. His accent is so thick you can cut it with a knife. The voice acting is better but the voice sounds horrible.
@@ArvelDreth I dunno, I still remember him as smart, cheeky and cocky. Very fitting for him.
Yorkshire Ala Mhigo was the best decision. Giving M'naago, Ilberd, Raubro and Conrad similar accents cements Ala Mhigo as a place with its own identity, I love it.
It's grim up north.
SLOPPEH!
The old voices weren't bad just a bit on the cartoony side. (Alphinaud was played by a ninja turtle). The new voices really lend to the necessary emotional depth found in the later expansions.
Correction: Alphinaud’s voice was played by Sam Riegel! Sam frickin Riegel! 💕 (He may or may not voice a ninja turtle lol)
In seriousness though the last VA crew weren’t given ample time to prepare and were kind of rushed through the process. That’s why even though the VAs themselves are talented, their scripts often had a lot of voicing errors. You can literally hear the difference in the delivery of their lines now vs then. SE are taking better care of them now. So glad Yoshi P and their team took over.
@@e.k_liadon There is no correction here, Sam Riegel voices Donatello.
@@e.k_liadon ARR's voice acting sounds like they just gave the voice actors the scripts with only their individual lines and said "just read this." Later voice acting sounds like they had some actual direction, maybe a storyboard or early animation samples for context.
I just got to Heavensward and just before Tataru was sooo cartoonish it was WTF ?! Then voice toned down and fit the scenes
Yeah, ARR voice acting being a bit off sounded like a problem with direction.
my god I absolutely forgot how Alphinaud used to sound like in ARR
(possible spoiler alert) I’m actually really glad they changed Urianger’s voice actor. Hearing Gideon/Balthier’s familiar voice when un-hooded Urianger first appeared would’ve gave it all away
I'm a bit of a Gideon Emery fanboy but honestly I agree
not going to lie they got pretty close with Y'Shtola's second VA. Thancred's sound similar enough so long as you dont hear them side by side. Yda and Papalymo had different sounding voices, but they got their style and rhythm close enough. Uri's just sounds like his voice got deeper
I actually kinda miss Urianger's old VA, since it was the same as Ignis in FFXV: it had the tone of responsibility and maturity....sometimes, the new Urianger feels like he's smug with his knowledge XD
Fun fact the voice actor who does the voice for the character Urianger is the same voice actor who does final fantasy 12 Balthier.
@@nathanosworth4640 it was Balthier/Biggs(7R)’s voice actor, not Ignis’s
@@LuisRodriguez-vc6ff And his current VA voiced Metal Face in Xenoblade Chronicles.
@nathanosworth4640 Emery Gideon didn't voice Ignis , he voiced Balthier in XII . Adam Croasdell voiced Ignis . And unlike Urianger , Ignis did more than studying and divining . He was the steward of the group and the more diligent of the group .
it's weird, i've gotten used to the new actors for the most part but hearing them side by side just makes the new voices sound alien all over again. taliesin jaffe was great as thancred and it's really a shame they didn't keep him. i will say sam riegel has early alphinaud's little shit personality pretty well perfect, but i like how colin ryan handles his more humbled, grounded persona from heavensward on.
Sam Rigel wasn’t able to consistently keep up the accent so the change over was for tge better IMO. Honestly the only things lost here for me are Talesin and maaaybe Thancred’s VA in ARR. I really appreciate the change to not have all Lalas be squeekers. That would have gotten so old.
@@gateauxq4604 Taliesin *was* Thancred's ARR VA.
Would it be wrong to redub the ARR cutscenes with the new VAs? No offense to the original VAs and not to undermine them, just for the sake of consistency. Just where appropriate.
great now I can't unhear sam and taliesin.
@@acgearsandarms1343 Like how Destiny did when switching from Dinklebot to Nolandroid
I think what I liked most was when they stopped trying to make the lalas all sound like children. Nanamo and Tataru especially. I think the most grievous change, however, was Merlwyb's change. No shade on Tracy Ann Oberman as an actor, but she took what Jean Gilpin created and turned it into a pirate caricature. It's never sat right with me.
Yes! Tracy just lacks the “oomph” that makes Merlwyb so badass! I miss her old voice ;3;
Literally the only 'old' voice I wish they hadn't changed - her old voice was just so perfect for a tough commanding woman. The most recent voiced scene was better than the ones in stormblood (where she sounded positively girlie) but still not as good as the original.
I just figured they were trying to emulate the Japanese version. They do higher pitched voices, seemingly, for that given their sizes.
@@ssjup81 So in the Japanese voices the Lalafell dont all sound high pitched some of the ones in Ul'dah actually had rather deep voice actors doing lines and Pipin is voiced by the person who's known for Adult Link shouts in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time who's also done a bunch of other stuff since
Dunno man, it made lalafel voices actually Unique. Sure it sounded weird in the beginning, but when its a pattern of the race. It makes a lot of sense. The new case everyone sound the same. Average "Wolverine-fallen hero-cool guy voice nº1" and "Average female voice nº1" I hardly can distinguish the characters(With exception of Alphinaud)
I personally am in love with the new cast and they felt more fitting then the original. But I do have a soft spot for some of the old voices. Like Yda being voiced by Mela Lee, Minifila's old VA, and Pipin being voiced by Max Mittelman.
But the old cast also had VA's that are pretty common now in dubbing work. So it's nice to hear some fresh voices that you don't hear like everywhere. lol
Also watching this, gosh, I miss Papalymo still. ;w;
Papalymo didn't get the writing he deserved.
And frankly the switch from Yda to.. Yda was weird. Why did the character go from a complete ditz to a pragmatic strategist?
@@jasondeutschbein8102 Because she wasn't acting anymore? Come on, they say it literally right as it happens lmao
Agreed. I still miss Papalymo to this day.
Finest Pupil indeed. So many people have cheated death, yet he, mostly alone, has not. :(
@@YaMamasAss who said
@@ProfessorGunk Lyse did. She was just acting how she remembered Yda did, she stops pretending to be Yda and starts acting like herself which she originally could only do with Papalymo
Urianger sounded like he went from Narrator’s voice over to Actual supporting cast member
I used to feel really attached to ARR Alphinaud and felt it was a bizarre getting use to him in HW. Listening back now to ARR after having nearly completed Shb I cannot believe I liked old Alphinaud. Holy lord the change.
i’m in the exact same boat, i remember being so upset when starting HW and hearing alphinaud’s voice chance, but listening back i just think that the new one fits so much better lol
same here-- i'm partway through stormblood and even now i'm shocked he sounded like that, i almost forgot about it. i think the old VA did a great job, but i just like the new one better. it was still a huge jumpscare when he was the first voice acting i heard in all of HW though lmao
I love Yda's A Realm Reborn voice but it definitely wouldn't match in the upcoming expansions; especially for Stormblood. :D
Could you imagine Yda/Lyse with that high-pitched bimbo voice taking charge of the Ala Mhigo resistance?
@@Galacticavatar Nope I wouldn't. Hence why I said it wouldn't match XD
Whenever I hear that voice, I'm reminded of Rachel Alucard from BlazBlue, voiced by the same actress. A gothic aristocratic condescending vampire. Couldn't be farther from Yda.
@@Galacticavatar Mela would probably switch over to the voice she uses for Zeta in Granblue
Thancred's is the most upsetting change to me.
Merlywb's is the most tragic change. I can't watch scenes with the new voice actress without cringing.
I think it suits him as a dad now.
Yda/Lyse voice for me.
as I just got the first cut scene of HW Alphinaud is pretty bad, like there is no snark left and he became british? or do they all become british?
@@ProfessorGunk They changed studio so now they record in the UK. Alphinaud is a little rough at first but it's a fit eventually. After the events of ARR he's in more of a humbled role who looks up to certain other characters in the story for a time.
It feels like they had a good starting point for them all in ARR but then hit the perfect stride when HW came around. Granted it was incredibly jarring and almost somewhat upsetting at the time but following getting used to them it was undoubtedly a very positive change.
whenever the original urianger spoke i couldn't help but picture Balthier. odd that that voice came from someone who's not the leading man.
I miss Taliesin Jaffe as Thancred, literally my favorite VA and my favorite character
Welp, now I can't unhear the voice of our elder god.
The post-ARR voice of Y'shtola is the same voice as Sara in Dragon Age: Inquisition.
It's fun hearing her voice in something else.
As well as that, the ARR Urianger is Fenris of Dragon Age 2 fame. And I guess Samson too.
I much prefer the new cast. The voices fit better and the acting is better. Papalymo especially went from nails-on-a-chalkboard annoying to perfectly tolerable.
Yep, the whole "From tragedy and sacrifice, we rise to greet a new dawn" line might've sounded about 10x more cringey
I love Yda's voice so much. I wish they revealed that Yda was actually alive and them BAM, it's the old VA.
No ones going to talk about Papalymo. Big improvement
No-one talks about Papalymo. He was a crap character and a bit of a bully towards Yda.
@@Galacticavatar well voice wise he definitely improved. Don’t remember him being too much of a bully though
yeah, i just replayed ARR and HW, and i don't get the bully vibe. i definitely get an "annoyed by her general impulsiveness and tendency to not think things through" vibe, that sometimes creeps over into snarkiness, but it never came off as bullying to me
A reminder that most of this ARR VAs were the same(as far as I've seen) as the ones in 1.0. So they were asked back to a somewhat failing game at the time with probably the knowledge that they would not be hired back since they were moving to a UK(?) Studio over a US one. I did like most of the old Scions VAs along with Raubahn, Merlwyb and Gaius and who knows if they could of gotten back into the grove into HW. That being said I love the current VAs and it's cool to see how Alphinaud's VA has improved over the years.
With really only one exception I MUCH prefer the new voice actors to the old. This may not be the voice actors' fault, mind you, but just the level of direction they were given for their roles. Still, the newer voices just sound a lot more "fantasy" and I appreciate it.
Alphinaud's change actually matched quite nicely with the change in his personality. both voices fitted the kind of person he was and has become
alphinaud's voice actor change was rough... he went from the guy from mephisto from blue exorcist trying to play a teenager, to well his new va, and it was hard to adjust to until I got further along.
im shocked at how close HW Ysh sounds to her 2.0 version.
Damn, Thancred's whole demeanor changes :(
Okay Alphinaud’s voice actually sounds like he’s grown up and out of his snider voice. It’s kinda nice actually.
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Urianger old voice is my fav voice actor I was so sad when they changed him
I liked the old dub, but I have grown to like the new dub better. I especially like Alphinaud's new voice because he actually sounds more like a teenager.
I like how Alphinaud sounds like he has it together and then he just drops it comes Heavensward-onwards, because his refined voice was just some affectation he did to distance himself.
I think Alisae had a pretty good voice switch too
I really appreciate the new English voice acting, just the same, do I dislike the quality of the audio dropping from some of the voices like post-hw Minfillia, sounding like she's almost swallowing the microphone.
Tataru's ARR VA didn't have a high peek, because she started talking at the end of ARR
Most of the new voices are nicer, but I miss Thancred's old voice actor, i miss that sass!
You can say that again, I mean... even though he takes a more tactical approach to things, he's still snarky at times
For the most part i honestly liked the old voices more
I am devastated that they changed Thancred's VA
Probably because despite retaining his wit, Thancred was the replacement Minfillia from that point
The contract with the company supplying the voice actors ran out, and SqE had to go elsewhere
Best thing to ever happen
@@Umbruhh Except with Urianger, I loved Balthier's VA
Oh, I was wondering why all the VAs changed to begin with. I never knew there were companies that supplied VAs
Pity they didn't renew the contract.
Still a kick to me that original Thancred was Talesin Jaffe
I normally hate when voice actors get changed but I think most changes were for the better.
alphinaud's shocked me when i first played through this game and now- uh in ARR that isnt alphie XD (he must of hit major puberty)
I just finished AAR story and I am so sad of Alphinaud and Thancred having their voices changed :( It's a bit shocking. The old ones sound so much better to me. The rest sound ok from this video but still I immediately heard the difference to look it up only to find many voices had changed. I read why but still dissapointed.
I'll never play again if they change off of the current Urianger. He's my favorite scion right now
0:17 I KNOW THIS VOICE IS NOW LIVINGWAY 😳 That voice just told me to hop to it!
Bethan Cullinane is Livingway and Mappingway's voice. Haley Alexander voiced Nanamo in 2.0. From what a search says.
What, they dumped Taliesin Jaffy(?) as Thancred? :O That guy was the highlight of my MSQ.
I like Urianger's vojce so much
maaaaan i liked Yda's ARR voice shes such a great actress shes kikimora in owl house, rachel alucard in blazblue, she has such a fitting voice.
I mean they are getting older and they changed really well. I love the new voices.
Urianger’s frist VA sounds like a BBC narrator for an interesting historical film 💖
It does! But that doesn't fit his face now that we see it. I think it sounds too old for him, but it is one of the better original voices.
@@leonie7754 well I guess the VA referenced the fact that Urianger is a little bit old fashion - in his manner of speaking and I have no idea if Elezens live hundreds of year that would probably consider his age - old.
It's funny, cause his new VA could probably be legit heard as a BBC announcer. Hell, he played a villain in a BBC radio drama.
Great, i'm not going to be able to unhear that when playing through the story with my alts lol
People need to give the old voices more credit, I think people just default to "Oh, they changed the voices so obviously they were bad!" but look at these names, Sam Riegel, Gideon Emery... these are top VAs!
JESUS CHRIST ALPHINAUD!!
Old Papalymo sounds like a Warcraft gnome
Urianger's original actor also voiced Balthier in XII. Now that I know that I can't not hear it lol.
yda is definitely the best change
nothing quite like going through three expansions with the new voices and then going back to an alt in ARR and hearing the old voices out of nowhere
man, i forgot that yda was voiced by Rachel Alucard and Alphinaud was *Ky Kiske* (in xrd i guess)
Yshtola is so similar but much more emotive
Kinda miss Thancred old voice XD
Y'shtola's second voice actress is so good
I still prefer the old Alphinaud, Thancred and Eda. Gideon Emery was the best Urianger VA, but the character himself has greatly improved since ARR.
You know you might have been a bit TOO obsessed eith Eizen from Tales of Berseria when you heard Thancred's frustrated sigh/groan for all of 3 seconds and immediately make the connection that it's the same VA.
Welp. 🙃
I honestly like all the new voice changes especially Thancred and Alphinauds, however I really cant even tell the difference between old urianger and new one
Y'shtola and Yda improved greatly
I never realised they changed it
except CID
Especially Thancred since he felt more like a change in the way he spoke
Alphinaud's one was probably the most obvious that I should have noticed
Just got to Heavensward and the VA change is jarring to say the least, some are better but quite a few are worse. Merlwyb and Urianger in particular sound much worse than before, but I guess that's just how it goes with long running games.
They get much better the deeper into the game you get, just like how the ARR voices got much better with each patch all the way to 2.5. It also doesnt help that the actual _quality_ of the recordings in Heavensward is pretty bad too. Merylwyb in particular has some very good voice acting in Shadowbringers.
Yeah I'm just getting to stormblood and i actually prefer all the original voices over the new ones. they just sound so generic and vaguely british
@@Chocolate83Bunny they sound *vaguely* british because most of the voice actors ARE british and the recording studio is based in the UK. how can they be generic if they're authentic? or would you rather them sound vaguely american?
“Urianger” “worse”
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@Lee Griffiths Plot twist: The WoL has an American accent :O
Seeing as the game has been in development for like 14 years, it doesn't surprise me that they can't keep the same voice actors.
Believe it or not I like Urianger better with his original voice.
I'm not entirely sure if I like new Alphinaud or old Alphinaud better.
After playing through HW and STB I had forgotten what Sam Riegel's voice sounded like for Alphinaud, but after hearing it again I'm on the fence :/
I used to love his ARR voice and was bummed when it got changed. But I've now gotten used to his new VA (after hearing it for so many years) so I prefer it. :x
So i dont follow voice actors, i just play games and watch animes and dont give it much thought. But now i'm a turned Critter and am in love with the Critical Role community and the nerdy bunch of voice actors playing. I have been playing FFXIV since original 2010 launch and now 11 years later i'm just discovering that ARR voices of Thancred was voiced by Tallison Jaffe, and Alphinaud by Sam Riegal? I'm such an ostrich. trying to find any video footage of it is hard though, i like seeing the actors do the voices. I can't remember Alphinauds original voice sound
I love all the new voices better (the ones in the video, i cant remember who else changed). Maybe it's the writing and the voices. I find it rly distracting if I feel like theyre acting out a Shakespeare play. The new voices have a lot more emotion and feels natural.
god dammit thank god they changed
They did pretty well with casting the scions new voice actors honestly. They all sound relatively similar though better, giving more character to their well, character. Alphi def sounds less bratty and snobby although I think that was on purpose to show his naivety since there are lines that talk about that. Overall I like to think he calmed down after the crystal braves incident. I will say side characters often have VA changes that suck but oh well. Not too sure why its hard to stick with a Cid VA though. That dude has had like 5 changes its slightly odd
I think Gideon Emery (Uriangers old va) wouldve sounded better as Thancred. I always heard Gideon when Thancred spoke before hearing what he actually sounded like
I don't even need to double check, first Thancred voice acter is Talesin Jaffe and I love how quickly I noticed that ^^
Papalymo received the biggest improvement from the voice swap.
I miss old cid and that other character from 2.0 that has a prominent voice and comes back in Stormblood, I’m being vague for spoiler reasons.
Urianger had a voice change?!
Ya he used to have the same voice as balthier in ff12
@@heartfullbutterfly314 And Biggs from FF VII Remake.
The same voice actor has always voiced Urianger, but at times it sounds different. That's how I found Urianger's Milkshake.
Im so torn because I love the new voices but also I didnt realise ARR Thancred was Talisen Jaffe and Alphinaud was Sam Regal.
For anyone that plays Guild Wars 2; Papalymo is/was voiced by the Asura Male PC (Steve Staley), and Alphinaud is/was voiced by Brahm (Sam Riegal--also Teddie from Persona 4.)
I knew Papalymo's voice was way too familiar.
THERE HE IS! THANCRED DE ROLO!!
Im glad they changed Alphinaud’s voice he actually sounds like a young boy and not some stuck up creepy gay boy who gives off creepy vibes.
I love Sam Riegel but he made Alphinaud so unlikeable.
Alphinaud as a character was super unlikeable. He was a rich, stuck up snob who thought way too highly of himself despite the fact that he couldn’t actually deliver and it was the WoL’s efforts that created the change he was looking for. Then when he created the Crystal Braves, his Ego was on max! Lol
I honestly think if Colins voiced Alphinaud in ARR he wouldn’t have the same level of “arrogant rich prick” that Sam Riegel brought to the table. I think Colins’ depiction of his voice after ARR really reinforces that sense of “Just got my Ego shoved up my ass,” that Sam’s depiction wouldn’t bring to the table. I think the timing of voice changes for Alphinaud was perfect storyline wise in that respect.
Most of them can be explained through aging but ydas was the most extreme change. And Y’stola changed, least as I understand it, the voice actor was murdered irl.
Nope, that was yugiri
Honestly I think Urianger is the only character that I like both voices for.
Well, Y'shtola too, but her two voices are so nearly identical that I'm not counting it.
It was weird hearing the voice change immediately after returning to the game following the credits
The only 2 voice changes which were slightly irritating were Thancred (Since the new VA made it sound like he was dead inside) and Cid (He went from being a pilot to a pirate, basically)
Urianger just sounds like he got a better microphone LOL
Urianger sounds like the person who is like “I went through second puberty, it is a thing all Elezen do” and then pull up a video of him with a worse mic that does not amplify bass that much like he was Thor from Pirate Software.
I heard the NEW English voices first before hearing a new one running MSQ on an alt (because I wanna rerun MSQ to catch little things that I missed). Everytime the twins talk I have to yell SHUT UP ALPHINAUD. XD
i watched hundreds of hours of critical role and only in the credits i realized its talisien and sam.. holy shit
Honestly the only 2 voices i miss are Urianger's(I love Gideon Emery, ever since he voiced Balthier in FFXII) although his new voice still suits the character. Now Merlwyb is still a bit harder to get used to, her original voice fit the character so well(also, A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON).
hnestly all of these are a win to me except maybe urianger his original voice sounds nice and kinda like baltheir from 12 new ones good to tho
OG Alphinaud: *smug posh boy*
Current Alph: *OI M8 DID U SEE THE FOOTY GAME LAST NIGHT, EORZIA IS BLOODY AWFUL INNIT?*
Yda in Stormblood with her ARR voice would have been _interesting_ to experience
Heavenward beyond is my preferred cast, except for Myrlweb. Although honestly, when the change happened I honestly didn't notice the change. All I noticed was the characters sounded more professional, more world weary and less anime-ish.
I honestly think the changes happened at the correct point. FFXIV ARR was just a string of successes and could have been an anime about the ascension of a Warrior of Light after a previous set of Warrior of Lights failed to stop Dalamud, provided they stop before 2.5. FFXIV Heavsenward-Endwalker is the story about a group of people who suffer to solve long-standing problems and challenge the nihilism of the Ascians.