I'm so happy I found your channel and I hope it gets so much bigger. I'm the best longboarder I know personally and I've had to teach myself almost everything. Your videos have such amazing and in depth details and you have helped me learn so much more about my board in a much easier way than hours of trying to figure stuff out. I've been skating for almost 6 years now and you are by far the best and most well rounded longboarding youtuber I've seen, your tutorials are amongst the best and when my friends ask me for tips I've started showing them your videos to watch because you produce tons of great and in depth content. good luck to you and skate hard!
thanks man, I'm glad my content has been helpful. Thank you for sharing my videos with your friends, and though the tutorials are done I hope my future content will be helpful or just enjoyable to watch haha
Most of what i learned about longboarding i learned from your videos and articles. Thank you sincerely. I put my wheels on a set of Caliber 3s and the wheels don't spin much. On my old cheap trucks, the same wheels spin real fast. Have you ever heard of a problem like this? Thanks!!
I'm glad that it wasn't just a placebo effect. When I first got on stock 9" R 44 Cal 3's, I couldn't believe the feel under my feet. It's not that Cal 2's feel bad and when set up properly, they can feel really lively. These just have some new goodness in the rake and the bushing seat that give it extra sparkle and add customization to an already beautiful stock feel? 👌
I just bought some more Venom plug barrels to experiment with in my Caliber III trucks. Going to try out 90a/93a plug in front and 93a/95a plug in back. Should be interesting. I definitely already noticed that I didn't need to tighten the kingpin nut as much as I needed for just the stock 90a bushings.
Yo peeps! I just spent a day trying out reverse rake on the caliber 3 44 degree 9"'s. Here's a few of my take aways. 1st thing. The center zone (the range where the truck isn't progressively turning) is much broader, meaning, that it takes more input in the form of lean to make the trucks begin to turn (this does not mean less lively on the contrary). 2nd thing, the moment you begin turning they want to start turning back the way you came which makes for some super fun carving. i would go so far to say that these feel better this way for carving, especially if the continuous carve suits your style. The key thing about this is it feels like you are already 1/4 of the way into your carve, trajectory wise, once you even begin carving! Its hard to describe but think of it as a head start in your carve. 3rd thing. The arc and which these trucks turn with negative rake gets more sharp the more you progress into your carve. This results in a feeling like your trucks want to ride on rails and keep you on a line no matter how much you work at turning or leaning to get off/change lines. This is a particularly rad thing if you enjoy spending alot of time drifting corners. Think of it like a cheat code to nail lines. 4th thing. If you thought calibers had gangster lean, then i'd go to say that Calibers with Reverse rake have OG- lean. Super mega lean! If you enjoy turning while leaning and sliding then this is what you need. Paired with tall bushings and the insert bushing barrel, the lean turns into a super charged lean which dives aggressively yet gradually. its a feeling i can't quite describe but give it a try and you'll see what I mean. I road these trucks on a 30+" wheelbase, topmounted on a Rayne Demonseed 42 with Tall barrels Boardside and Plug Barrels roadside. I find personally that this combo really emphasized the particular expressions and characteristics of the trucks so that I can feel exaggerated characteristics from every truck I try. After having ridden these on this setup I'm gonna go ahead and reccommmend setting these trucks up like this on a Longer wheelbase in the 24"-26.5" range on a board with some drops. Go feel for yourself and let me know what you noticed!
Uhhh, the insert works very similarly (in trucks like rogues). I've found the plug barrel to have less "binding" towards the edge of lean and feel a bit friendlier. That said, it all boils down to how you setup either
Another awesome review that I have been waiting for someone to do. I also have Caliber IIIs and I also think they're the best cast RKP truck on the market. That Venom plug barrel bushing REALLY makes a difference in stability agaiinst speed wobbles. Thanks for the great content!🛹
I feel like it’s safe to assume what the answer will be, but would you recommend these over the stock trucks that came with my longboard? My main issue is that my turn radius is just way to large for trying to get around the city and my college campus.
Nice review, this actually made me buy one and try it out myself. One question tho, would the effect of plug barrel be the same if it was put roadside (and a harder duro normal barrel boardside)?
These are my first longboard trucks. I wanted to try the negative rake but I'm having wheelbites haha. Also, the plug bushings are good but the thing is, only Venom has it now so if your local skateshop is not carrying them, you have no choice but to get it ovearseas. But maybe Riptide or other companies will make it in the future?
Hey Venz! Flipping the hanger will definitely lower your ride height significantly but if you toss in a HARD 1/4” riser, you should be able to escape without wheelbite and experience the flipped lifestyle. Flipping your hangars will give you more lean and less turn and will give you a much more relaxed turning feel. I also wish riptide would get into the caliber plug bushings but these plug bushings have existed since the CAL IIs so it may have been more a lack of demand that was preventing riptide from jumping into the mix. (Venom bushings are made by the same company that makes caliber trucks) Hope this helps!
@@BayAreaLongboarder oh yes, I'm considering the riser but maybe I'll get a smaller wheel in the future haha Oh, I didn't know that it was started before Caliber III. I actually was planning to change the stock cone bushing to a barrel.
*Caliber II is my current favourite rkp truck* but I need to try Caliber III. I'm usually not a fan of the rake but I wanna see / feel the Caliber III raked variant. ⚡🤙🏼🤙🏼⚡
@@downhill254skate I just realised a couple of days ago, the Raked version has a wider bushing seat than the Rakeless so the difference is not just Rake, found this not mentioned in any specs anywhere, a rider mentioned it, you can see the difference in the pics
Hi! How do these compare to the cast Ronins? I've been enjoying my set of Ronins a lot, but it's hard to get the cast ones nowadays. Your cast Ronin review was entirely from a DH point of view, I think you should give those trucks a go on a loose cruising / pumping / carving setup, like your dropcat if you still have them. They feel incredibly good when setup loose. When I set up my Landyachtz Swithblade 40 with a loose cast Ronin setup, I couldn't believe the amount of turn I got out of them. My turning radius feels like it's just under a meter, and the limit is wheelbite. I am still a beginner in pumping, but for a 42.5 degree symmetrical setup, I think they pump really well. I can hold my speed at around 20 km/h for a few hundred meters as a beginner before I get exhausted. Would love to know how the Caliber IIIs compare to the Ronins from a commuter's perspective. Not thinking of switching out my Ronins just yet, but if they are comparable then for my next board I might go with these... My only gripe about the Ronins is that the extra PU/rubber pieces don't really like wet riding, which these trucks do eliminate, as it's just the bushings and a regular pivot cup (which I could change out to riptide WFB if it's squeeky).
I did actually have the Ronins setup on my drop cat for a while. They turned a lot but were stable. I could definitely see them working as a pump setup. Max capps used a set of ronins for slalom so they can definitely wiggle. The calls turn a lot, I can't remember how the ronins felt exactly, but I would like to say it's about the same. And I didn't mention it in the video review, but in the writeup I mention that they are pumpable. Even with the drop through board Ic ould get them to pick up speed a bit. I'd rather the calls over the ronins. It's easier to get bushings for the cals and there are fewer parts. If access to ronin parts and soft ronin bushings was easy I'd pick them instead
I I have 1 set of Croinins set super loose on a free ride deck and the other on a down hill deck and they are amazing on both. super versitile, but hard to find. Both mine were frm ebay used.
Do you think these trucks are capable of going on a 22 inch wheelbase if dewedged in the rear with directional bushing setup? (Softer in front stiff in rear) with venoms?
@@downhill254skate I think with a 14 degree dewedge on the rear bringing it down to 30 degrees(I can go up to 20 degrees wedge if I want to and add a riser on front) and 93a bushings in rear, 87a in front. Venom hpf plug it will be fine for popper downhill 40mph and below.
@@MichaelWagner-z4k I stll wouldn't recommend it. Wedging brings on it's own problems. But for bushings I'd recommend as hard as 95/95a or 97/93a in the rear. And as soft as 85/85a, or 85/81a, or 87/85a if you're on the heavier side
@@downhill254skate I’m 180 naked, and like a responsive ride. I have a 96a riptide barrel I can pair with my 93a plug I ordered for the rear. I canceled the order on my DT cybins because I needed the money. For the next two weeks I’m going to skate on the calibers and learn, I doubt I’m going to go faster than 30 or so in that time frame. After I purchase my cybins I’m going to use the caliber 3 trucks for a free ride setup on a castellated tesseract or a Kenny nap pro model. I highly recommend you check out and or make a video on the don’t trip Cybin precision trucks! They are only 380 dollars for both, which is cheap for precisions, still made out of 6061 t6 billet. Don’t trip is also the first brand to utilize the insert bushing and other precisions copied it after. Having the adjustable baseplate angles with the freedom you have is incredible. You can dial them in exactly how you want and change the hanger width setting if you want to switch wheels out and still match the rail width
You should review seismic Aeons. I got a set and they feel amazing. Also, technically they were the first cast trucks to have a slop stopping system if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, I haven't seen any information on these trucks before, it would be amazing to see some from THE SOURCE of quality reviews.
I got a set of 30* Aeons on sale, I only really wanted one because I wanted to see what it woudl do on the back of my Evo. With the -7* tail on the EVO I ws running 23* in the rar with the purple bushings. It turns like a cruisship, but it straightlines like a rocket on rails. skated it twice got over 50 MPH and took them off for something I could turn. lol
The 9 inch is the best. The 10 works great, it's a little more slidey, but it kinda just sticks out a little too much. That's just my opinion though after running both on my freedive
I know this is an unfair / "apples-to-oranges" question, but if you were to choose between Caliber 3-raked 158 44 vs Paris Savants 165 43, which one would you go with for standy freeride?
I'd go with Calibers simply cause they have the plug barrels. Savants with the plastic plug were awesome for stands for me. Wish the plug worked a bit better in savants tho
Ayy I haven’t skated rakeless or flipped rake since 2015 but I’m kind of thinking about a return to nostalgia. Reject modernity, embrace tradition. Buy rakeless 10” cal IIIs (probably not an actually good suggestion FYI)
hahaha, they can be very fun ngl. On a big board they can be awesome for a drifty, schlubby setup. They have their use, which isn't railing lines and shit
You can buy the Caliber III here on Amazon.com (affiliate link)
Cal III - 44 Degree:
www.amazon.com/Caliber-Trucks-Cal-50%C2%B0-Longboard/dp/B0742LGQS5?maas=maas_adg_47E330E23DF7ABB3987A98EBF1D8D068_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas
Cal III - 50 Degree:
www.amazon.com/Caliber-Trucks-50%C2%B0-Longboard-Beginners/dp/B0CL8MHFWR?maas=maas_adg_15D8EFA5FFA822916F0404CA00A96EA8_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas&psc=1
My Caliber III setups
Setup 1
Deck: Landyachtz Freedive
Wheelbase: 23.5 inches
Trucks: Caliber
Hanger width: 157mm R
Baseplate angles: 50/35 (Randal plate)
Front truck
87a/90a Plug Venom HPF barrels
Flat washers
Back truck
93a Plug/95a Venom HPF barrels
Cupped washers
Riser: 1/8inch
Wheels: Remember Collective Savannah Slammas
Setup 2
Deck: Trotta pro
Wheelbase: 25inches
Trucks: Caliber trucks
Hanger width: 158mm or 180mm R
Baseplate angles: 44/44
Front truck
90a Barrel /93a Tall Barrel Venom HPF barrels
Flat washers RS/ Cupped washer BS
Back truck
90a Barrel /93a Tall Barrel Venom HPF barrels
Cupped washers
Riser: 1/8inch
Wheels: Various
Setup 3
Deck: Landyachtz Drop Hammer
Wheelbase: 27.25 inches
Trucks: Caliber
Hanger width: 184mm R
Baseplate angles: 50/50
Front truck
90a Cone/90a Plug Barrel Venom HPF
Cupped washers
Back truck
90a Cone/90a Plug Barrel Venom HPF
Cupped washers
Wheels: Orangutang 78a Kegels
Top notch quality video as always. If you're feeling tired of reviews, I'd love to watch a purely skating video from you.
Coming soon!
Nice that the new generation of trucks coming out are a genuine step up. I have wanted to try some calibers for a long time. Must try these
I'm so happy I found your channel and I hope it gets so much bigger. I'm the best longboarder I know personally and I've had to teach myself almost everything. Your videos have such amazing and in depth details and you have helped me learn so much more about my board in a much easier way than hours of trying to figure stuff out. I've been skating for almost 6 years now and you are by far the best and most well rounded longboarding youtuber I've seen, your tutorials are amongst the best and when my friends ask me for tips I've started showing them your videos to watch because you produce tons of great and in depth content. good luck to you and skate hard!
thanks man, I'm glad my content has been helpful. Thank you for sharing my videos with your friends, and though the tutorials are done I hope my future content will be helpful or just enjoyable to watch haha
Most of what i learned about longboarding i learned from your videos and articles. Thank you sincerely.
I put my wheels on a set of Caliber 3s and the wheels don't spin much. On my old cheap trucks, the same wheels spin real fast.
Have you ever heard of a problem like this? Thanks!!
Just got my pair of racked 44 red!
I'm glad that it wasn't just a placebo effect. When I first got on stock 9" R 44 Cal 3's, I couldn't believe the feel under my feet. It's not that Cal 2's feel bad and when set up properly, they can feel really lively. These just have some new goodness in the rake and the bushing seat that give it extra sparkle and add customization to an already beautiful stock feel? 👌
Bro, stock these things are incredible. Caliber really did the thing
Hey, it's a year later. Do you still think these are the best trucks?
I just bought some more Venom plug barrels to experiment with in my Caliber III trucks. Going to try out 90a/93a plug in front and 93a/95a plug in back. Should be interesting. I definitely already noticed that I didn't need to tighten the kingpin nut as much as I needed for just the stock 90a bushings.
The more strong near the deck?
Thank you for making your videos they are very helpful and fun to watch.
I've had the 50 cals since the 3s came out and they rip man. Those venom plugs from the factory are so nice
I have forged trucks and I still feel jealous, they look really fun
they're worth trying!
Just ordered a set of these for my drop hammer from CCS, can’t wait until they get here
good choice!
I got the 50 degree with rake , changed the bushings to 87 , but may have to go lower Im 64 kilos
Are these venom 90a plug barrels stock or we must buy aftermarket?
Oh snap it’s here!
Yo peeps! I just spent a day trying out reverse rake on the caliber 3 44 degree 9"'s. Here's a few of my take aways.
1st thing. The center zone (the range where the truck isn't progressively turning) is much broader, meaning, that it takes more input in the form of lean to make the trucks begin to turn (this does not mean less lively on the contrary).
2nd thing, the moment you begin turning they want to start turning back the way you came which makes for some super fun carving. i would go so far to say that these feel better this way for carving, especially if the continuous carve suits your style. The key thing about this is it feels like you are already 1/4 of the way into your carve, trajectory wise, once you even begin carving! Its hard to describe but think of it as a head start in your carve.
3rd thing. The arc and which these trucks turn with negative rake gets more sharp the more you progress into your carve. This results in a feeling like your trucks want to ride on rails and keep you on a line no matter how much you work at turning or leaning to get off/change lines. This is a particularly rad thing if you enjoy spending alot of time drifting corners. Think of it like a cheat code to nail lines.
4th thing. If you thought calibers had gangster lean, then i'd go to say that Calibers with Reverse rake have OG- lean. Super mega lean! If you enjoy turning while leaning and sliding then this is what you need. Paired with tall bushings and the insert bushing barrel, the lean turns into a super charged lean which dives aggressively yet gradually. its a feeling i can't quite describe but give it a try and you'll see what I mean.
I road these trucks on a 30+" wheelbase, topmounted on a Rayne Demonseed 42 with Tall barrels Boardside and Plug Barrels roadside. I find personally that this combo really emphasized the particular expressions and characteristics of the trucks so that I can feel exaggerated characteristics from every truck I try. After having ridden these on this setup I'm gonna go ahead and reccommmend setting these trucks up like this on a Longer wheelbase in the 24"-26.5" range on a board with some drops.
Go feel for yourself and let me know what you noticed!
What size trucks do you have on your trotta pro? Love your videos!
check the other comments (especially on teh Cole video), I think I mentioned which I use
@@downhill254skate alright, thanks!
looking saucy abuga. another great review.
🙏🙏🙏
Whats the difference in performance between a plug bushing and an insert bushing?
Uhhh, the insert works very similarly (in trucks like rogues). I've found the plug barrel to have less "binding" towards the edge of lean and feel a bit friendlier. That said, it all boils down to how you setup either
great review
Another awesome review that I have been waiting for someone to do. I also have Caliber IIIs and I also think they're the best cast RKP truck on the market. That Venom plug barrel bushing REALLY makes a difference in stability agaiinst speed wobbles. Thanks for the great content!🛹
Thanks for watching!
I feel like it’s safe to assume what the answer will be, but would you recommend these over the stock trucks that came with my longboard? My main issue is that my turn radius is just way to large for trying to get around the city and my college campus.
Yeah they are quite turny. But really the turn radius is determined by the wheelbase. You might simply be better off with a smaller board
Great review, as usual. How would you compare these to the Savants?
More turny, better support through the lean, more response from the pivot ... Idk been a while sicne I skated savants
Sounds like I made the right choice when I got these over the 44° savants. Thanks dude!
hello great channel , in the video when you said the trucks were pumpable what degree were you using
just 50* :)
Thanks a lot
Nice review, this actually made me buy one and try it out myself. One question tho, would the effect of plug barrel be the same if it was put roadside (and a harder duro normal barrel boardside)?
it would have less center and less support. I ultimately didn't like how they felt roadside
These are my first longboard trucks. I wanted to try the negative rake but I'm having wheelbites haha. Also, the plug bushings are good but the thing is, only Venom has it now so if your local skateshop is not carrying them, you have no choice but to get it ovearseas. But maybe Riptide or other companies will make it in the future?
Hey Venz! Flipping the hanger will definitely lower your ride height significantly but if you toss in a HARD 1/4” riser, you should be able to escape without wheelbite and experience the flipped lifestyle.
Flipping your hangars will give you more lean and less turn and will give you a much more relaxed turning feel.
I also wish riptide would get into the caliber plug bushings but these plug bushings have existed since the CAL IIs so it may have been more a lack of demand that was preventing riptide from jumping into the mix. (Venom bushings are made by the same company that makes caliber trucks)
Hope this helps!
@@BayAreaLongboarder oh yes, I'm considering the riser but maybe I'll get a smaller wheel in the future haha
Oh, I didn't know that it was started before Caliber III. I actually was planning to change the stock cone bushing to a barrel.
Venom plug barrels do kick ass.
*Caliber II is my current favourite rkp truck* but I need to try Caliber III. I'm usually not a fan of the rake but I wanna see / feel the Caliber III raked variant.
⚡🤙🏼🤙🏼⚡
It's very controllable in this truck. I didn't ike Paris initially cause of the rake (I found em unskatebale), but loved them when I tried Savants
@@downhill254skate I just realised a couple of days ago, the Raked version has a wider bushing seat than the Rakeless so the difference is not just Rake, found this not mentioned in any specs anywhere, a rider mentioned it, you can see the difference in the pics
Hi! How do these compare to the cast Ronins? I've been enjoying my set of Ronins a lot, but it's hard to get the cast ones nowadays. Your cast Ronin review was entirely from a DH point of view, I think you should give those trucks a go on a loose cruising / pumping / carving setup, like your dropcat if you still have them. They feel incredibly good when setup loose. When I set up my Landyachtz Swithblade 40 with a loose cast Ronin setup, I couldn't believe the amount of turn I got out of them. My turning radius feels like it's just under a meter, and the limit is wheelbite. I am still a beginner in pumping, but for a 42.5 degree symmetrical setup, I think they pump really well. I can hold my speed at around 20 km/h for a few hundred meters as a beginner before I get exhausted. Would love to know how the Caliber IIIs compare to the Ronins from a commuter's perspective. Not thinking of switching out my Ronins just yet, but if they are comparable then for my next board I might go with these... My only gripe about the Ronins is that the extra PU/rubber pieces don't really like wet riding, which these trucks do eliminate, as it's just the bushings and a regular pivot cup (which I could change out to riptide WFB if it's squeeky).
I did actually have the Ronins setup on my drop cat for a while. They turned a lot but were stable. I could definitely see them working as a pump setup. Max capps used a set of ronins for slalom so they can definitely wiggle.
The calls turn a lot, I can't remember how the ronins felt exactly, but I would like to say it's about the same.
And I didn't mention it in the video review, but in the writeup I mention that they are pumpable. Even with the drop through board Ic ould get them to pick up speed a bit.
I'd rather the calls over the ronins. It's easier to get bushings for the cals and there are fewer parts. If access to ronin parts and soft ronin bushings was easy I'd pick them instead
I I have 1 set of Croinins set super loose on a free ride deck and the other on a down hill deck and they are amazing on both. super versitile, but hard to find. Both mine were frm ebay used.
Do you think these trucks are capable of going on a 22 inch wheelbase if dewedged in the rear with directional bushing setup? (Softer in front stiff in rear) with venoms?
No. Will probably ride ok for cruising but not any proper dh stuff.
You'd need a crazy dwedge
@@downhill254skate I think with a 14 degree dewedge on the rear bringing it down to 30 degrees(I can go up to 20 degrees wedge if I want to and add a riser on front) and 93a bushings in rear, 87a in front. Venom hpf plug it will be fine for popper downhill 40mph and below.
@@MichaelWagner-z4k I stll wouldn't recommend it. Wedging brings on it's own problems.
But for bushings I'd recommend as hard as 95/95a or 97/93a in the rear.
And as soft as 85/85a, or 85/81a, or 87/85a if you're on the heavier side
@@downhill254skate I’m 180 naked, and like a responsive ride. I have a 96a riptide barrel I can pair with my 93a plug I ordered for the rear.
I canceled the order on my DT cybins because I needed the money. For the next two weeks I’m going to skate on the calibers and learn, I doubt I’m going to go faster than 30 or so in that time frame.
After I purchase my cybins I’m going to use the caliber 3 trucks for a free ride setup on a castellated tesseract or a Kenny nap pro model.
I highly recommend you check out and or make a video on the don’t trip Cybin precision trucks! They are only 380 dollars for both, which is cheap for precisions, still made out of 6061 t6 billet. Don’t trip is also the first brand to utilize the insert bushing and other precisions copied it after.
Having the adjustable baseplate angles with the freedom you have is incredible. You can dial them in exactly how you want and change the hanger width setting if you want to switch wheels out and still match the rail width
You should review seismic Aeons. I got a set and they feel amazing. Also, technically they were the first cast trucks to have a slop stopping system if I'm not mistaken. But yeah, I haven't seen any information on these trucks before, it would be amazing to see some from THE SOURCE of quality reviews.
I got a set of 30* Aeons on sale, I only really wanted one because I wanted to see what it woudl do on the back of my Evo. With the -7* tail on the EVO I ws running 23* in the rar with the purple bushings. It turns like a cruisship, but it straightlines like a rocket on rails. skated it twice got over 50 MPH and took them off for something I could turn. lol
So, on the Trotta setup, you didn't use plug bushings?
Great review btw, as always ❤️
I've always used plugs when running the calls!
thanks for watching :)
@@downhill254skate oh, but in the setup overview above it is not specified that you used plugs in that setup ;)
@@helgevig5134 I thoiy you might mention that hehe. I just overlooked it is all
@@downhill254skate aight:))
Yes on the Cole Trotta setup, your setup is barrel/tall barrel.
Do you use the plug barrels roadside ?
Awesome vid
cool ,,top mount? wheel size?
stiff or flex board in this video...
Check pinned comment!
what width hanger are you using on your freedive?
The 9 inch is the best. The 10 works great, it's a little more slidey, but it kinda just sticks out a little too much. That's just my opinion though after running both on my freedive
9inch/157mm
I know this is an unfair / "apples-to-oranges" question, but if you were to choose between Caliber 3-raked 158 44 vs Paris Savants 165 43, which one would you go with for standy freeride?
I'd go with Calibers simply cause they have the plug barrels. Savants with the plastic plug were awesome for stands for me. Wish the plug worked a bit better in savants tho
@@downhill254skate Thx for the reply!
Highlight of the video is when you say the plug barrel is the shiznit
Ayy I haven’t skated rakeless or flipped rake since 2015 but I’m kind of thinking about a return to nostalgia.
Reject modernity, embrace tradition.
Buy rakeless 10” cal IIIs
(probably not an actually good suggestion FYI)
hahaha, they can be very fun ngl. On a big board they can be awesome for a drifty, schlubby setup. They have their use, which isn't railing lines and shit
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That Coke gonna be flat as hell
haha, i didn't open it till i got home
@@downhill254skate I know this trick. You gave it to you sibling to open.