Has YouTube Ruined The Aquarium Hobby?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Has RUclips and social media as a whole helped or hurt the aquarium hobby. With a combined experience of 20 years on social media John and Jason can speak from experience on this topic. Their opinions may surprise you.
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Remember when, if you needed information, you had to go to the library and try to find books on the subject or, at the very least, go to the family encyclopedia collection? Ah, yes. Those were the days.
My local library had about 4 dozen books on baking but zero books on native freshwater fish 😂 I remember being so frustrated as a kid because I wanted a book to help ke identify all the minnows and tiny fosh I was catching 😂
Oh my goodness…& remember how terribly out-dated that info was though?! Still is…. That’s where platforms like this give the broadest and best care-guides.
NO responsible keeper houses snakes, for e.g. the way books at the library recommend.
The face of the universe is much brighter having this podcast
I think Jason was absolutely correct about aged videos/views. You should redo all of your old videos! You'll pick up new veiwers, and all of your biggest fans will still watch them because... it's you!!!
Without RUclips, I wouldn’t have as many aquariums, have the variety of fish species, have shrimp, have variety of filtration or planted tanks. I would still be keeping fish though. 😊
For sure the best podcast of aquarium content in the internet
John and Lisa, you got me back into the hobby. I had too many tanks, too, when my landlord surprised me by not renewing my lease. It would have cost me too much money to have to move the aquariums alone, so I put everything up for grabs on FB and Craig's List. Now I am ready for a second and third tank from Lisa's guppies and shrimp!
Bringing my hobby onto RUclips (and Facebook but mostly RUclips) was probably the best thing I’ve ever done for my hobby or I’d probably still be stuck in the beginner phase. I learned so much, whether it was watching people like John or Jason or Joey, or from people commenting on my videos giving me advice. I was still in the beginner phase when I started (my old videos of my old setups from 10-12 years ago make cringe lol). I’ve never really put too much effort into becoming a big channel. I mainly just showcase what I have, as well as documenting the evolution of my hobby as I’ve gone from beginner to “somewhat” experienced over the last 12 years. I really do miss some of the OG fishtubers that stopped posting or got out of the hobby but I’m glad John is still here !
If it wasn't for the fishtubers I probably would never have gotten started in the hobby. The video format and various personalities made learning feel a lot better than staring at a wall of text. I am certain that both of your channels have prevented me from making silly mistakes. 3-4 months of "research" and I feel pretty equipped to handle whatever my aquarium can throw at me. I'm just waiting to get my first slice of humbe pie 😂
IMHO Humble pie either has or will happen to everyone. Info like John and Jason's help reduce the chance or at least prepare you to handle it. As an example, I love cichlids. I started with south Americans. I knew that I also wanted Mbunas and peacocks. I learned, thankfully before buying the fish, that none of the 3 species would live together in peace. So, I have 3 tanks of healthy cichlids instead of one tank of fish killing each other. I didn't do it all at once but before I bought another species, I had a tank cycled and ready.
I'll hop in to add to the total of people who attribute both your channels' content invigorating their interest in the hobby! Thanks a lot for all the good info!
Your content and both KG Tropicals and PrimeTime Aquatics are on the best possible path for good and healthy. I can’t tell you how much you both have impacted my life and ALL 500+ fish, everything from guppy to cichlids and goldfish, everything else is there too! If anything RUclips is where the best people are, you guys and both your partners in addition to the good things you provide. If anything TikTok is creating divides, stealing content through water marks on videos and lastly burning out the presenter/contributor by making them reach so far the hand lands on the wallet and full circle to the mouth in a moment of “oh my….”. True story happened to me! I left for seeing hateful content and comments being pushed as ok and I cannot align myself with 500+ animals with a social media platform that would happily see me fail and my pets suffer. Loved this episode and thank you for all you do! Stay happy and healthy my friends! 😊❤
Definitely agree with Jason. RUclips is saturated with the information, its definitely your personality and the format you've chosen to present it in that attracts the fans and views. Both your channels are my favorite fish keeping channels but the same info is everywhere for sure.
The "new tank mania" is wild. I get that it's helpful for the algorithm to constantly be putting out a new tank build, but I don't think it's super healthy for the hobby to be so consumed with having a fish room with chronically new tanks. I would love to see more content about long term aquarium keeping, and building a system that you understand in stead of attacking every problem as stand-alone phenomenon that needs a chemical treatment.
This is the best video you two have made. Influencing the viewers is good but educating us in the right manner is a big responsibility. I am from India and I'm following your individual channels since a year now and your knowledge and experiences has helped me a lot in this hobby. Thank you both for making this channel and creating beautiful and insightful content.
Another great episode thank you to you both for these weekly uploads. It makes my Mondays so much better.
Now more than ever we need to teach people critical thinking skills to navigate through all the information thrown at them.
But goldfish LOVE waterslides…. 😅
I just think its hilarious that there’s fighting in the fish keeping side of youtube😂 For example, just because someone keeps or uses a different product or fish, can grind someones gears is simply hilarious😂😂😂
😮 But there's surely only one Supreme right way to do this hobby right? 😂
The only thing that really bothers me is poor husbandry. Obviously that's also somewhat subjective but let's be honest- an oscar in a 29g is never going to be okay. Even my co-workers at my pet store jon did the bare minimum research before setting up a tank. One of them told me she did 100% water changes twice a week. I was like noooooooooooo 😂
I agree 100%. I think any form of negativity or verbalization of hurtful opinions towards others is DEFINITELY an enormous negative. Alot of modern day keyboard warriors out there. Negativity towards each other benefits no one, it doesn't change minds or teach anyone. First thing it does is trigger defensive responses and shuts down the flow of information. Facebook groups are a prime example of this.
18:00 like you said. You have to beware of people who make videos of setting something up, and not showing the results.
Things may look great for a few hours, a few days, maybe weeks, then fall apart into a disaster.
This applies to Aquariums, anything alive and building/repairing things. Those types of videos just chase views, not education or possibly unintentionally.
MD Fishtanks helped me to practically ruin all my tanks with ramshorn snails (to add a little color and help with cleanup). It seemed so harmless adding eight beautiful pink ones to my newest planted 10-gallon that only had white fish. Once they had about doubled in numbers, I moved a couple to each of my other tanks, not quite understanding the consequences. Holy moly, what a mess.
You're probably overfeeding, population shouldnt explode like that without your input
Without Fishtube I probably wouldn't have succeeded at this hobby. Thanks to both of your channels, I've learnt a lifetime of knowledge about fish, plants, breeding fish the importance of water parameters.
Loving the podcast. This was my favorite episode thus far! Keep up the great work 👍
I miss the old rating system. I know it was abused by haters, but for the most part, it worked.
They should add something like:
[ ] "Scam"
[ ] "Bad Advice"
[ ] "unknown outcome"
[ ] "Entertainment, not educational"
[ ] "Verified by a professional"
to tag videos.
Facebook is an awful platform for the hobby. Way to much bullying and trolling.
Facebook is just generally awful.
RUclips is where I did most of my research for becoming a fishkeeper
Salutations and great day to you Gents...Mr.Jason....go for that Molly and Cory tank....after all tanks that bring you joy can never be bad tank real estate.
It's hard to get food to the corys. Lol. Mollys are very hungry fish. I absolutely love them and have a 60 gallon tall full of them. ❤
I never expected to watch RUclips on big screen TV’s, but here we are!! Oh man I had already thought of SCOTTY before you mentioned him! Hahahaha I hate his Titles but enjoy most of his content. Admittedly I skip many of them if the Titles are lame to the point of sounding patronizing. 🤷🏻♂️
@58:00. Scotty! Because of him, this Metro-Detroiter w/ family members working for the Big 3 had the guts to buy a Subaru!
Found both of you separately when researching live-planted tanks…probably looking for species-specific profiles. I’m done adding tanks AND fish, but I still watch you both avidly! Just as we watch SerpaDesign, Aquarium Co-Op, AntsCanada, Clint’s Reptiles, a few others….
Each creator has helped me
create beautiful ecosystems for my pets. Even if I’m not looking for anything new, I still enjoy watching because I KNOW you’ll all give me new and important information to better keep my animals.
And you’re just fun to watch!
A point John made hit me right in the nostalgia bone! The cardinal sin is real. Now, my example comes from before I realized RUclips was more than funny videos and music, but this happened to me as well.
I wanted a silver arowana so I googled "How big do arowana get?". The first article I read said they get 24 inches. That's what I wanted to hear. That's what I ran with. It wasn't until after I discovered RUclips as a source of information years later that I found out Silver Arowana can get nearly twice that size.
Multiple opinions and Multiple perspectives are really a must if you're going to do your due diligence.
Thank you John & Jason for all you do. I trust what you both say & it has helped me be a better fish keeper to enjoy & care for them.
You may have to rehash videos eventually, but the difference between both your channels and others is you guys expand on the topic and make it even more valuable. Since it’s fitting, it’s like being a Professor. You’ll teach the same subject over and over, but some of the best teachers can always keep it fresh. I believe both you guys and your wives have that passion to always stay relevant. If I don’t see you guys making live streams that look like they were recorded on a 2006 PC webcam in your 70s like Father Fish, I will be disappointed.
I think it depends on how you do it. ex: Dan of Dan's Fish has a format that is verty effective - especially because it's his business. He starts with his customer service goal, and the status relative to that, then new fish he has in stock, and the giveaway (not necessary but fun), and the rest of his podcast is answering questions from his listeners. well done and professional. Others out there just spend an hour basically talking about themselves and that gets boring, or their perspective is so narrow that it gets old very quickly. You guys do a back-and-forth, which is a good discussion of whatever topic you are on. just my 2 cents
Maybe I'm just interpreting the statement a little differently than you, but honestly, I truly do not care if a video I share gets 47 views or 47,000 views. I mean, I WOULD be lying if I said I didn't get a kick out of it when a few of the videos I have released did well (for me), but I'm not constantly looking at my analytics. In fact, I think I can honestly say that I've probably taken the time to look at them MAYBE 3 or 4 times since creating my channel. The truth is, I know this will never be a source of income for me in any real sense. I video with my phone. I do not edit. I post about things not fish related, and I don't post on a set schedule. If the people who do chase numbers are to be believed, all those things are things RUclips analytics absolutely HATES... and I'm fine with that. Will I try to do better as I go? Sure. I'll probably get some editing software someday. I'll probably buy a camera and a mic someday, too. I may never post on a schedule, but heck, I might even try that, just to see how it goes. What I know for sure though is, if this ever stops being fun, I'll be gone like a fast un the wind. If there's one thing I've learned over the last few years, it's that life is short and tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, so make the best of the time you've got and don't have any regrets.
Honestly, researching and/or watching fish content has been half the fun of the hobby for me. It's funny you mentioned you two and Aquarium Coop being the top three everyone mentions because that's totally me lol. Jason brings the science, Cory brings insight into hobby/buisness trends, and John just keeps it real and fun.
There are probably 10K+ problems vids regarding the troubles of this hobby, and 10K+ answers vids too...
But more likely, only 50 or so real answers for those problems...
There is so much misinformation out there (even from so called Guru's like Father Fish), that will either make a small difference, or none at all...
I take in as much info about the problem at hand and then just as much (if not more) regarding how to deal with it... I even ask my LFS (30+years in the business) to then give me more advice...
Only then do I take steps to correct what may be happening, once I weigh up the pro's and con's of the advice I've been given.
Your vids and channels are some of the best that I have watched, with great advice (some that has helped me in times of need)... I thank you for that and hope that you continue to keep it real, and balance your opinions on your findings as you have always done.
You guys pretty much nailed it on this one! The idea of updating (or removing) older videos is a good one. Unrelated…John, I have two bottles each of Pima- & Melafix you can have! 😂
I miss the days of books and magazines a little. I know they still exist but I think the quality, consistency and new releases of written media have been reduced. I also think the early days of the internet and specific forums were more valuable in the quality of information. Unfortunately we can't go back, we are where we are.
Creators should feel comfortable NOT chasing an algorithm and instead ensuring the viewer/subscriber/customer has a quality experience while receiving value of some sort. Be that entertainment, education, or the sense of community and affirmation.
You probably can’t keep up with algorithm changes, so shore up your base and preach to the choir that shows up.
Thank you! Ethics, integrity, staying power is paramount. Both of your channels have been two of my top go to channels and have helped greatly, BTW I am older than you both and remember the days when there wasn't even Google LOL! In the end though it is the viewer's responsibility on what to utilize!
Agree completely that as a content consumer we bear the responsibility of applying the information judiciously and not as an absolute truth. Fish keeping has so many variables even the most specific advice isn't necessarily exact. In the absence of a true curator we as the consumer could carry that mantle as well. Good show doing exactly that!
RUclips is no different than the news. We should Read/watch multiple sources to find common points and often come to our own conclusions with the information we gather. I watch many aquarium channels for entertainment and I could name 3 I trust in doing what they say. These problems apply to every hobby I have. Wood working is much worse because safety is a huge factor.
This was a good video. It seems RUclips content is all over the place in terms of value add to the hobby. I have been making RUclips videos for 7 years now and I just share my story and experiences now. I post long videos with detailed explanations because its not about views its about sharing. Sometimes things go well and sometimes not well but I feel its important to share both and everything in-between.
Great information. I am a full-time RUclipsr making six figures in another niche.
Being a content creator is a phenomenal job, but it is a real job.
I’ve had a realization that I enjoyed fishing more than the niche that my channel is in so I have just started my aquarium channel.
I know exactly what you guys are talking about
Number one piece of advice is make sure that you love what you are making videos about because if you do become successful, you it would be hard to pivot to something else
John's wife and I'm sure the professor's wife also, you can watch and see, and feel the love and devotion they have for their animals, guys are guys, you do what guys do, but the ladies show that love connection that most of us have for our animals.It's the sex different and will never change as far as I'm concerned.
You mentioned in the podcast that you guys focus on covering material that's interesting to brand new fish keepers and those with somewhat more knowledge than that. I would be interested in hearing about where you would go to learn more in addition to what you guys normally discuss. Maybe things more technical or narrower in scope, even if it's of narrower appeal, is more challenging, or lacks some of the polish an charisma you guys bring to your videos.
You two are my go to for sure. As well as Lisa and Joanna. Ah yes Cory too. You are all making the hobby a great one!
Video Age: honestly I appreciate when creators remaie videos. Maybe the information is the same, maybe not, but:
* You have more experience now, sonthe information is more likely to be correct and current. We learn new things all the time in this industry.
* Old content is very hard to search, and rarely comes up.
* Newer content tends to have a higher production level.
So... Personally? Yeah, do, remake old content whether you have something new to add or not.
Good video. I really appreciate you guys, and your experience and science background. This is a great podcast overall.
I also think it needs more pointing out that alot of people give their fish hell pets in general (alot on reptile side too) humanistic traits/feelings.. like the water slide thing , some will know its not good but most will think hey thats fun it must be fun for them too.. in the tank ppl are constantly doing everything they can to keep it air clear and no algae that its come at the detriment of the fish..
I don't watch short videos.
You touched on exactly what I've been wondering for a while. If you already did a video earlier, what would you remake it now after time has passed.👍
This entire week , all the fish I’ve bought have died . I own a 20 gallon tank with a terra , 2 Cory bottom dwellers , a betta . And one silver tip shark . If these new fish die , I’m out of the hobby for a while. It’s become too much of a hassle/job . 😢
I think You tube has really helped. I learned a lot from my dad and other pet store owners. But I realized by watching your videos that I needed to learn a lot more. I also realized that I make mistakes and everyone else has made similar mistakes. I don’t feel as bad.
thanks for sharing your insights.
Love the podcasts! Thanks guys!!
This has been very insightful. I have a super, super small channel that's all over the map because I have a million hobbies, and I want to share them all. I've been having a huge problem trying to niche down to cater to what youtube says my audience wants; this has been what I needed to hear to just keep going so long as I enjoy what I'm doing. I will just keep sharing what brings me joy and inspiration and hope it can do the same for others. You both have been so helpful to me in learning more about aquariums, specifically the species spotlight style videos and I think you for that. Jason I've listened to your recorded lectures before as well which certainly lends to your credibility, but your channels (both) speak for themselves.
I'd guess that the "older generation" (such as myself who is inching up on 40, and above) favors the long format videos where as the younger generation fancies the short format. It makes me wonder what the future of RUclips will look like (and I certainly hope it doesn't ever push long format to the wayside!)
Enjoyed this episode as well as many videos made by you guys and your wives. Thank you.
I value educational videos, very highly.
I'm not fond of "shorts" and i HATE clickbait style.
"Has RUclips Ruined The Aquarium Hobby?" is okay.
Could have been "Let's talk about how RUclips has changed The Aquarium Hobby".
but a bad title would be "RUclips guilty of being fully responsible for the shocking effect that has changed the Aquarium industry forever"
A title like that, gets put on my blocklist.
I don’t care about the quality of the viewing experience, I care about the content so that I can learn. I have come to trust a small handful of fish keeping RUclipsrs. Yes, dirted no water change tanks are IMO ugly. I like a clean look with fish that have enough color so that I enjoy them.
In reply to Jason's last question, "has RUclips helped". I live in a town of 2800 people. I know one person that I consider knowledgeable enough to give good advice that doesn't or work in or own a pet store. They are helpful but their knowledge is spread among fish, dogs, cats, birds, reptiles and anything that people keep as pets. Sure there are a few locals with a small tank of guppies or goldfish. I have 4 tanks in my living room, the smallest is 55 gallon and they range up to 125 gallon. (I also have 3 floor jacks in my basement to support them). Of course, I use youtube for a lot of my info. I'm really into cichlids and I can't even buy them within an hour drive with the occasional exception of the local pet store taking in one or two and trading them for store credit, then they call me, knowing that I'll probably by them for 3 times the cash that they gave in store credit. Thank you, guys.
Let me retract a small piece of what I said. The local pet store does sell angelfish which I have learned from you guys is a type of cichlid. They also keep blood parrots, which I have 2 in my south American tank. As for Mbunas well over an hour drive. Peacocks about 2 hours.
I started keeping fish back in the late 1970s.The nitrogen cycle was never mentioned until about the 1990s. Is this memory of mine correct. When was cycling an aquarium common knowledge?
It was considered common knowledge in the early 80s. My first job was in a local fish shop and I spent most of my time in the store explaining how and why under gravel filters worked.
@@scott1285Under gravel filters, I had forgotten about them. I still have some books from that time. No mention of cycling a tank.
@@MrG.42 The nitrogen cycle was understood in full by the 1800's my guy
Hey hope I'm not being a bad fish keeper. Doing a 3gal walstad method bowl for low color neocardina shrimp. Well I had mosquito larvae pop up so I just put a male guppy in. First night he hid but now, my opinion is his mannerisms aren't showing me any red flags. What do yall think? Shrimp are going to be added here in a few weeks.
I have used the granules version of mosquito dunks in my shrimp tanks. It seems to be fine so far.
@ziender ok, since adding the guppy I have zero larvae and he is constantly hunting.
I usually have tiny shrimp babies in my shrimp tank, so I don't like to add fish. I worry that even my Chili rasbora might have mouths big enough to eat the babies. I also seem to get mosquito larvae every couple of months, so the granules have been great.
@ziender my shrimp are in with blue and green neon rasboras. If the fish are eating the babies I don't notice lol.
RUclips is a great place to post vidoes to share with friends. It is also nice for journaling progress, which is what I use it for. I would be horrified and go private if my videos started getting thousands of views.
I being a baby boomer, I feel that RUclips is more of entertainment of an interest. The internet is where the real knowledge is when I want to know a truth.
Jason, I think you should do the unusual thing as it would actually get you more views. A 125 with platy and catfish sure who else has that right?
Speaking of RUclips, I'm curious what the rationale is for this podcast not being part of each of your other channels i.e. alternate every other podcast on your respective channels. You have access to an instant audience that is very likely interested in this content too.
How can you not love Scotty ?
It's really all about education! Or it should be.
If it wasn't for the content you two provided over the last few years that I literally stumbled upon. I would never had got back into fish keeping. It started with keeping shrimp. Never heard of such a thing. Educated myself and learned about plants. Started with a 10g to see if I was really going to want this after my mbuna 75g 10 years ago. BTW, If I knew about RUclips back then I would have known when the Aratus grew up and changed colors, he would kill everything in the tank. Anyway, now up to 4 tanks, 2-10's, 40b and back with mbuna, and a new 40l with Tanganyikans.
Jason, you should peruse more videos on tanganyikan cichlids. The recent one was a good taste. There is not a lot of good info on them and community tanks. At least not as useful as what you usually deliver.
BTW, Norm rules!
I just let the shrimp and fish be the stars 😂 but if i can make videos that help relax and calm someone then im happy.
I do not watch shorts videos. They are usually sensational content with of no value. Please stick with normal vids only.
I agree
I also agree
Agree
Strong, strong agree. I'm here on RUclips because I want substantive content. If I wanted short sensational flash in the pan content, I'd be on tiktok.
Absolutely 100% agree!
RUclips is great for how to video's, learning, and teaching. Do not use it for news, and dont let your kids have un monitored access, theres some terrible, disgusting things on here. Its great for what it is, you can teach yourself how to do almost anything on RUclips. Kinda makes college useless also
Do John and Primetime have beef with aquarium coop? Seems like they threw some shade at him.
Uou also have to watch out for people who unintentionally give misinformation, I was looking into rainbow sharks for a 72 aquarium and came across a video that was showing redfin sharks but calling them rainbows.
Oscar fish are the "ugly" monsters I love.
If RUclips ruined the hobby then I wouldn't be watching this. So it can't be that bad? But it would be safe to say that there is just flat out a lot of bad and confusing information out there and could pose a problem if you don't know how to filter through it. Now with that said a lot can be learned from RUclips also and there is some valuable information on RUclips. If not for RUclips I would of never heard anything either one of you ever had to say regarding this hobby. So there is some value there, just a matter of how you look at it I guess.
Isn't the fish industry a big part of the blame here ? They show pictures of 20 saltwater fish on the box of a 3 gallon tank box ! What does the young child think when he buys these tanks ? You and others should start shaming these tank company of their sales only technique.
So does that mean I'm a bad person for watching alot of moistcritkal 😂😂
but how does youtube ruin aquarium keeping?
If not for You tube I would not have any tanks
I have come across a lot of fish room tours videos with “master breeder X” who turns outs been in the hobby 6 months and imports all his stuff fromThailand
Nope, just your chase for the almighty advertising money.
I despise short. Even more so the notifications. I think it’s a new vid and it’s just stupid shorts
RUclips helped me get more involved in the aquarium hobby. I've been keeping fish for around 45 years. About 20 years ago I did downgrade and took down all of my inside aquariums and just kept my 8600 gallon koi pond due to lack of time to maintain and doing house projects, but I pretty much completed all I wanted to do. I went back to my YT history to see what started this all back up again. I did watch a few of what John calls "The Florida Boys" videos for entertainment, but those did plant a seed in my mind about getting another fish tank for inside. I don't know if I searched or was suggested by YT but my first "real" video was KGTropicals "YES you CAN By These Top 10 Fish at PETSMART or PETCO!!". Then I watched several more KGTropical videos trying to see what has changed in 20 years. Then my first video from Jason's PrimeTimeAquatics was "75 Gallon Aquarium Pros and Cons: So Many Options!" and I geeked and nerded out with his science/teaching videos. Aug 8th 2022 was when I went to my LFS and got a 65 gallon since it fit the spot I had for a tank....now I have 6 main tanks and 4 quarantine/hospital tanks inside ranging from 10 gallon to 250 gallon. So yes RUclips is helpful, just not to my wallet :)
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