DPReview TV: Fujifilm X-Pro3 Preview - Carbon Coated Classic or Titanium Trinket?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Some might argue that Fujifilm's new X-Pro3 rangefinder-style camera takes a page from the Leica playbook, omitting a full-time rear screen in favor of a more 'pure' shooting experience. Is the X-Pro3 a carbon-coated classic or a titanium trinket? Chris and Jordan aim to find out.
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The brain says XT3 the heart says XPro3
The wallet screams XT30
At times I wish I didn't do photography/videography as a job so I could justify going with the heart haha -
I definitely still love my XT4 though!
@@matthewneiman I’m so happy photography is just a hobby for me. Whenever my little brother says “look, this picture my iPhone just took looks much better the One you just took”, I can say “yeah, but this was more fun”
...... The soul screams Leica Q3.
Facts. Xt3 with the grip. I use my elan 7e with the grip for street photography lol with the 40mm pancake
05:42 "The temptation's always there. I could pull it out."
-Chris Nichols, 2019
I immediately went to the comments when I heard him say this 😂
That explanation didn't work for me in court.
😂😂😂
@@stillflicks74 lol
That intro... it’s actually how Leica users behave! 😂
😂😂😂
@@Puntonghua and Leica wannabes, the Fuji shooters.
A quality and entertaining review again ;-). BTW, what IS that stylish bag?
@@TaipeiGeek 🤷🏽♂️
Leica users don't stand a chance against the overwhelming hipness of my Hasselblad X-pan.
I really like the fact that Fuji has the balls to bring out a camera that’s not like most other cameras. It‘s definitely not meant for everyone, and it has to be different from the X-T3 - and it is. If you don‘t like - no problem, there are tons of other cameras out there - the XPro3 is just not meant for you. Like Chris pointed out, just go with the X-T3. But if you like the different approach, hey, this is a brilliant camera. I‘m a Leica shooter, and I think it’s quite good that at least one other brand has the guts to produce a special camera that is not meant to please everyone.
”The temptation is always there, I can pull it out” (5:40)
Next scene; Chris in handcuffs being bundled into the back of a police car....
0:26 "... more important than my vision, how I look"
aaaand they give us a butt shot.
MarcelH 🍑💦 🤣
LOLs
Butt getting a bit chunky. We all get old.
Sarcasm is strong in this one. That's why I love Chris and Jordan's style. Best reviewers out there.
Confirm! 🤘
Sexy looking cameras is all I want , I will replace my girlfriend with this camera.
He hehe
gotta give a like just for that intro
That intro was dope lol
This camera is a revival of those old film cameras carrying a slot at the back of the body where you could stick a cut out of the film negative cardboard box to remind the user what film had been loaded inside the camera. Its a camera that bring back the joy of framing a picture to be shot almost exclusively through the viewfinder, a joy the young mobile phone generations will now be happily indulged into.Congrats, Fujifilm!
Chris and Jordan are storytellers, not camera reviewers. I must be watching these stories for pure enjoyment, because I’m not looking to buy a new camera.
Good job guys!
The X-Pro2 is so fun to shoot with. I can imagine the X-Pro3 is just as fun. The camera also makes you look handsome 😁 if that is important.
Fuji Eterna is that of legends.
Camera Conspiracies can’t wait to see your vid about this camera
@@Ponskippa All he wants is the perfect camera.
Julian Fletcher yeah he does! Lol
Amen
Go to bed
considering how I use the XT2, this with the 23mm F1.4 I'd be the happiest man alive. The back square screen is awesome! A genius idea to me who still uses film cameras.
Anyone else love the video quality? This episode looks better to me than the usual GH5
Actually, a lot of the shots in shadow look mushy to me. 0:27 6:00 6:33 7:11 9:36 13:32
The Eterna profile is really sweet.
I personally think the GH5 log video rarely delivers a good look on DPReview TV videos. It's all down to taste and I agree with you. This looked pleasing. I could have used a touch more saturation....but that could just be how it looks in Alberta, Canada. LOL
Peter Kent I looked at the scenes you mentioned and I can’t see any kind of mush, noise or anything negative regarding the shadows. I’m watching this on an iPad 11” Pro with the brightness turned up. Maybe you were seeing the effects of RUclips compression. (BTW, I’m not a Fuji shooter and have zero reason to like or dislike this camera.) ***I wish DPReview would offer full bit-rate downloads of their videos, maybe in a zipped folder that also includes original photos in raw and Joey format. RUclips just butchers the quality of video, especially during peak hours.
Some of the best looking video from this channel. They are really selling me on Eterna!
"Titanium trinket" or not, I love mine. If I spent a lot of time on tripods or needed 4 more function buttons, I'd have gotten the X-T3. That is a more practical camera, but the X-Pro3's left-side hybrid viewfinder is gorgeous and simply improves my shooting experience. It's placed correctly to allow my big "gaijin" nose to stay out of the way. It has an myriad of easily switchable and tunable options to allow me to setup what I'm seeing for the lens and scenario I'm shooting. And its' hidden LCD amuses me. It is a constant reminder that there're passionate designers in Japan who are ready willing and able to fight and win arguments with their pointy-haired bosses to make products for me that they believe in. I love those guys, and the world needs more like them!
Incredible! They changed almost everything I‘d change in the XP2, the way I’d change it. It’s perfect, the flipped-in screen alone is worth the extra money. However, the XP2 is good enough for me, I‘m not going to get an XP3, but I hope they will hand the classic neg down to it.
No. No no
.u I'll
They basically have put a GameBoy color screen on the back of the camera
Yes, a very advanced screen technology called LCD.
@@qu3becker No, it's actually EInk
Hope this means I can finally get myself a sweet X-Pro 2 for not a bucketful of money!
Get the M10-D so you can forget about the temptation to pull the LCD out for playback XD
This whole video is a testimony to Fujifilm’s video colours. This is you guys’ best looking video to date. I have the GH5 and shoot with it every day, like you, but I really don’t like the out of camera colours. A lot of work washing away that Pana cast. This here is just pure gorgeous. Whenever Fujifilm is dropping their first X camera with no time limit, I’m probably there first in line..
And by the way, I can see this flip out screen being killer and stealthy for waist level street photography. Not sure why you didn’t emphasise that in the video.
Ditto that. If this video is 8 bit?! See their mini-masterpiece review of the X-T3 shot in 10 bit X-T3.
I was super excited for the xpro3.. the hidden lcd and lack of d-pad has made it un-usable for pro work.. although for street photography its amazing! sad to hear about the mucky effect of that finish! im not loving that mini display at all tho! great vid guys.. very entertaining as always! :-)
as always, very good review, thank you :) I'm fuji fan, but you hit the point perfectly ... also I love the intro :)))
Fuji, either go all out and remove the rear display all together or give us the LCD display on the X100V. I really don’t like the direction they went with this.
There are going to be more Xpro3 users rushing to upgrade to XT4 than there are XT3 users moving to XT4.
I appreciate Fuji has the ball the make something like this in 2019, love the OVF on my Xpro and X100, can’t wait to try xpro3 out
Hopefully that other ball will drop soon, along with the X-H2, so Fuji can show off it's new pair.
H2 better have a d-pad though.
Mike Hayse lmaoooooo
I find that flip down screen works great for "head
down" shots - like an old twin lens reflex - folks don't know you're
looking at them so great for street shots! Love it! It's the way flip screens
should be!
0:00 - 0:52 I love it 🤣👏👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿so~Hilarious satirical and so true
Loved the review guys, but I'm still buying the premium ovf / evf for some street photography experience. Sometimes you need a break from an A7Riv with a 24mm GM.
Chris and Jordan, you may be the best Gear reviewing Duo on this Planet. You Reviews already saved me a lot of money. Thank you for your work. That intro was brilliant!
"You Reviews already saved me a lot of money. " you just made them a disservice!
Am I the only one sitting here like "Hell yeah can't wait for the X-T3 to get these fw qol updates!" ?
I bet they won't do it so they don't cannibalize Xpro3 sales...
@@alozor13 Fuji will do it. Fuji is not Canon.
I think it’s a good camera but overpriced when you see what the xt3 offers.
The hybrid vf is what makes it expensive
People buying this don’t want the xt3 features though, they just want the stills element. People who want every possible feature in their camera just can’t get their head around the xpro 3. Those people need to buy something else lol. I do see your point though.
@@blankname5612 they should have killed the hybrid viewfinder in favor of ibis in my humble opinion
Jan Garcia I don’t agree
@@jonhoward7627 we don't have to...
If the battery lasts more than 36 frames I'm not interested.
Hey, what gives, I gave Fuji reps my opinions and they ignored them. :) As an X-Pro2 owner, I won't be upgrading. In fact, after 3 years of trying to like the 2, I'm selling it. For me, Fuji's concentration on retro styling rather than function is a pain. It looks like Fujifilm has retained most of what bothers me about the 2 and doubled down on the retro. Though I occasionally pull out one of my old film cameras and shoot a roll of B&W Delta or colour Velvia -- I've been in the photography biz for 40-years -- I don't miss film and I don't miss fiddling with knobs to, say, change ISO. I agree with everything you said about the hybrid viewfinder.
After watching several popular youtubers on their initial take for x-pro3, I have to say that Chris and Jordan give the most information and their opinions (which is good) out of it. Really appreciate your observations and thoughts! Keep up the good work! The color of the video from x-pro3 looks fabulous! Still images look great too (of course)!
3:20 oh shit, the fixed focal length might be a dealbreaker. I was hoping they would widen the ovf to 21mm and keep a tighter option
Yeah, that's really not good. Lot's of street photographers like OVF and shooting wider than 35 equivalent.
That honestly sounds stupid. The whole point of the X-Pro series is the OVF, why making it worse?
What are you talking about? He didn't say fixed lens.
@@stevek8829 the ovf used to have two settings
If the full frame is ~28mm it should be fine; 21mm via OVF is perhaps too niche when there's an EVF and shoemount VFs - i.e. why not add 135mm etc
1:53 "For the first part of the video I'm gonna force myself to use optical viewfinder.
An then, If I want (whitch I'm probably will), I'm gonna switch over to EVF."
[A few moments later]
Chris uses EVF.
The OVF is useless, but still, every now and then I'll use it just so justify the expense of having it. WYSIWYG is so much easier than OVF + histogram + exposure meter.
I've shot Fuji for a while now. I'm well invested into the system. This camera makes absolutely no sense. It's a tool with FAR too many compromises. Just get an X-T3 or X-H1 at that point. Or if you really want that analog experience with all of the compromises, go save a ton of money and get an X-Pro2 at its inevitable price cut.
Well put it's a Frankenstein of a camera and not all the pieces fit together.
This...this is cinematic, informative, and, amazing!
This preview is spot on. Fuji's trying to be Leica. This camera should've had a regular tilting screen instead.
(At present) I'm prepared to pay more for Fuji bodies (and lenses) that are Made in Japan. I believe the build quality there is superior to elsewhere. The X-Pro3's 'rival', the XT-3, is made in China, which may help to explain 'the same specs at cheaper cost' argument (plus better video performance), as well as issues about build quality I've been hearing.
Hahaha. That intro is the best!
Well, thank you for bringing up this issue. So, what did we gain by Fuji removing the duel magnification that made more lenses useable? Hum. Crickets. They degraded the OVF from the X-Pro2. Okay, how many people actually use the OVF? Not many since I haven't heard many complaints about this move backward we've actually told is somehow better. i have a Pro3 and lobe it but that doesn't mean I'll overlook the degrading of the OVF. This new one is terrible. I know. I had a Pro2.
Did they do this to reduce production cost? Maybe reduce processor time? Maybe both. It also does not return the framing lines when one takes the fingure off the shutter release. LIKE ALL PRIOR OVF CAMERAS LIKE ALL THE X1OO'S AND Pro1-2's. What's up with that? Let's talk and while we're at it, let's do it honestly. The "new" OVF" is a degraded bomb. If I'm missing something please let me know.
2:00 already used EVF on the first shot
they should do a regular screen, and have button to switch between Film simulations and live view, this will lower cost production, makes everybody happy, and makes camera useful, because now is stupid.
I’ve been really lusting after the Leica M series cameras. I decided to look at Leica m alternatives and this was the first to pop up. I’m really glad that I came across this camera. Seems to have everything that I want in a rangefinder style digital and doesn’t have the ridiculous Leica prices. I love Leica and I understand the pricing, but it’s still expensive as hell. This Fuji seems the best of all worlds. I’m a film shooter who saw the dawn of the digital camera age. Maybe it’s just old habits but I shoot digital cameras like film. It just doesn’t fully translate. This camera seems to get back to it and is a digital camera made for those who shoot film. I absolutely love that “film” type simulation on the back, that’s a great throwback to the old film cameras that actually had that holder for the film box tab
There is a screen for box art?
Looks like fuji is falling into the trap of a corporate trying to be cool and hitting a wrong note.
The retro is now a thing for its own sake and the camera is becoming a caricature of itself.
For middle aged men who cant afford a sports car. But want to feel hip.
Keeping my X-PRO2 (and X-T3). I am not tempted.
I'm tempted but haven't seen enough to make me make the financial jump.
Forget about customizations, all you need is some controls to adjust the aperture, shutter speed and maybe ISO if you insist. That's it.
I would totally check out Chris if I saw him on the street, not gonna lie.
step 1: use evf to check your preview: step 2 change to OVF and shoot away enjoy! really not that hard.
3 years later I still come back and watch this video. One of the greatest (funniest)camera previews ever filmed.
Hahahaha!
You and I are doing the same thing, simply because I want to buy this camera.
I am however, hearing that the X-Pro4 is nearing release.
I really do like the aesthetics of this camera.
@@---us7qfDesperately hoping for a X-Pro4 but might just have to pull the trigger on X-T5 a this point 😔
4:08 right after you said "adorable", a leaf just flied itself went right into the trash can, which I found is adorable.
The skin tones and colors are great. Really have a film feel but this camera seems too niche. Good review. 👍
What a nice looking camera but I agree with Chris about the ovf.
By the way does any one know what lens hood that is?
As an A7 series and M-D user, I'm for sure picking it up. Thanks for the point about the coating. Will go with the base model.
Nice video as always Chris and Jordan I don’t particularly like the camera very LICA not to my taste use of the viewfinder is obviously great. Fingers marks all over not good strange kinder upside down camera in a way I thought. Probably very expensive as well. I am sure it take excellent photos though. Love the new film simulation though. Keep us the good work. By the way the comedy crept in at the beginning just made me laugh. Chris your kinda mad👍😉
Loved that intro...The farce is strong with this one 🤣.
I want to love this camera but you raised some very interesting points, it’s definitely a try before you buy and I don’t mean just for the day. However I have no need or desire to upgrade at this point and I’ll happily stick with my X-E3, although I do hope that Q menu option trickles down as a software upgrade, that I liked very much.
Loved it. And the intro... Thank you!
The colors, the look, the feel of the Fujifilm image...! Oohhh... Please keep shooting videoes with a Fujifilm.
Great review, thank you for the frank assesment :)
Great video! Specially the intro hahahahahah
It is nice that you filmed everything with the xpro3, I found that I like a lot more the image quality that you make with the gh5/gh5s. The crispness, the colors, your gh5 footage looks much better to me.
The sensor size war and the hate that some are trying to create is absolute nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, the photos looked beautiful, and that classic negative is fire! 🔥🔥🔥
Also, in my humble opinion, instead of the hybrid viewfinder which increases thee cost of the camera, they should have put ibis.
This is a very beautiful, exotic and stupid, nasty, designed camera.
Thank you thank you thank you Fuji... for curing me of my G.A.S because this thing is terrible. As an X-Pro 2 shooter I really wanted to want this camera. I’ve gotten (sort of) used to it’s quirks, and was looking forward to some much needed improvements. But the X-Pro-3 takes quirky to a whole other level and other than the EVF (and expected sensor/processor update) there is nothing here I need or want. Most X-Pro shooters I know feel the same way, and since this isn’t entry level... who is this for?
First, the OVF is really like an old rf film camera . From experience : it is nice to see outside the frame to compose or anticipate something coming into but with a tele the area becomes just too small.
I must point out that we currently have a much wider choice of focals and a lot more cropping possibilities than in the old 35 film days but if you shoot mostly a 23 and/or maybe a 35 , you must try this.
Second, the viefinder being on the left, if you are a left eye shooter, your nose does not interfeer with the screen and you have room to reach the joystick.
This is clearly a specialty and retro approach that could be a dream come true to some and while not for me , i salute this as a rare tool providing a different experience . This would have been a risky move for Fuji if they did not also have the XT-3 but they do.
There is only one good camera in whole Fuji line and its X-T3! This baby has reached Zen zone, the rest of Fuji's cameras seems like stuck forever in evolution zone and dramatically changing from version to version! *PS. who was asking Fuji to remove D-PAD??? NOBODY!!! Show me a single email from a Fuji user to Fuji asking them to remove D-PAD!!!!*
The issue when you launch X100V, Xpro3 and XT4 closely, is that one is likely to suffer by comparaison. And it's the case with this Xpro3, not as charming as the X100V and not as brilliant as the XT4 (and more expensive though...).
I would immensely love to get that custom focus function on my X-H1 and X-T2.
Wow! That Guy's got it figured out.... ;-)
The intro reminds me of Nikon DF lol. I hope it doesn’t suck like it .
first thing that came to mind, now that's pure photography lol
Does the DF actually suck? Depending on how you shot with it, it could be a smaller, lighter, cheaper, and interesting looking D4S.
IncandescentDaD not for $2850 lol. For a couple hundred more you could’ve got a d800.
@@jackofblades6736 Isn't the D800 a lot bigger and heavier? It has more MP and is a better landscape camera, but it's not necessarily better than a DF for everyone. I got my DF new, near the end of its run, for quite a discount. It was thus a good value for, at the time, what many perceived as Nikon's best sensor. Same sensor as the D4S which was still their current flagship.
I think that the optica viewfinder is only usable and enjoyable when you are using the 23mm f2.0, like the x100f.
55 sec in and dying of laughter!! love you chris!
It'll be easy 2shoot in Portrait-Mode with the screen pulled opened to the side - & the PRO up-side-down &the flipped -up for overhead shots - that's not hard to do..Cheers Fum AU ;^D
how much time do you take everyday combing your hair ? 🤔
Let's think about the branding behind this camera: "A hidden LCD screen will force me to be a better photographer". Sure, having a hidden LCD screen might be a fun novelty for a few weeks, but I predict that pulling down the viewfinder constantly (because you're going to want to use it eventually LOL) is going to get old and very annoying after the novelty wears off. Plus, the ISO dial on the X-Pro series is a PITA. I have owned many Fuji camera bodies and, by far, the X-T3 is my favorite. All the buttons and dials are in the right place and are easy to change on the fly. I also currently own a X-Pro2, which is a fine camera. I would never in a million years, upgrade to the X-Pro3 because of it's ridiculous LCD screen. If I wanted that "film" experience I can simply cover up the LCD screen on my X-Pro2. I'll say this: if you are constantly chimping and look with glee to a camera that will somehow force you to not chimp -- in the hopes that you'll become a better photographer, then you might want to think about that a little bit... a hidden LCD screen is not going to make you a better photographer. Learning the basics of photography (ISO, aperture, shutter speed) and the science behind color and composition, on the other hand, absolutely WILL make you a better photographer.
5:48 Yep, this is the crucial point. I was hoping to switch to Fuji for this camera, but they just can't stop with the gimmicks. The pull-to-lift iso dial made sense on film cameras, not here. And now, gimping the screen (this hits video shooters, people who use the screen to maintain eye contact with models, and those who find a screen quicker for reaction shots than raising for the ovf) screw a bunch of people for no good reason. Remember, the x-pro user base is an uneasy alliance between working pros, street shooters, fashion photographers, film nostalgia types, minimalists, and actual hipsters. This decision is for the last three at the expense of the others.
Did anybody else think the photos Chris took with XP3 are better composed than his typical review shots???
Xander B yes, especially in the part where he used the OVF ;)
This is the first time I've watched a review that I regretted buying my X-T3. I wish I had gotten an X-Pro3 now. Purely because of how I shoot. I rarely use the LCD on my camera except to change settings at home and I have never shot video and I don't really anticipate that changing. I like the minimalism of the X-Pro 3 and how it attempts to force you out of menus and information overload and puts on the emphasis on taking pictures. I also really like the way it looks. I think the OVF is probably a novelty, but I can also see how having that option could be creatively motivating for some people.
15:37 I almost agree with the second interpretation, but I found the ovf to be remarkable after just a minute with the x-pro2. On all the other points, yes. This camera line is slowly being turned into a talisman for a narrow group (will they even generate enough sales?). However, this group would be better served by an old Leica for less money.
It's a shame. If this camera had IBIS, the two-stage ovf, a d-pad, a proper tilt screen of some kind, and the x-t3 video capabilities, I'd sell my other camera gear and buy this on day one for full price.
Damn! Talisman! I like your assessment. Well said!
Why do they not have 1M subs? They may be too talented for camera reviews, I would legit watch a sitcom with these too.
Agreed. Also nice name you got there.
I find that screen a bit dumb. If you need to access it, it seems really awkward. It's like Fuji are saying we don't want to give you a screen, so we'll give you one but make it as awkward as possible to use. I would rather have no screen at all if they want to go down the Leica route, than have this odd compromise.
I'm old school from film days to much shit just pick the film simulation you want, shutter speed / f stop and exp comp if needed and work on your damn composition, Thank You for the video now I don't have to drive to the store to see this camera.😉👍 P.S. The colors on the video shot with this are pretty good.
What is up with the video quality at 13:40? It looks soft to me and stands out from the rest, the motion looks a little odd too.
Peter Kent Maybe RUclips bandwidth issues? It looks perfectly fine to me. 🤷♂️
lol.. going to keep my Xpro2
The OVF makes decent sense on the fixed X100 series, though I honestly didn't use it that much on the X100F when I had it. I'll give props to Fujifilm for trying unique things.
I've tried to use the OVF on my F, but I don't understand the point. It makes things more difficult than it needs to be.
@@klaushuxley3342 Yeah, pretty much.
1:24 Мужик слева идет новую X-Pro3 покупать. Два мешка денег взял)
WE LEICA USERS ARE NOT LIKE THIS!!!
Oh Fuji...that's funny lol
I am going to use the optical viewfinder for the first half of the video (1:52)
The first shot after the promise (2:02 ) using the electronic viewfinder
01:52 "I've made a pact with Jordan that I'm gonna use the optical viewfinder for the first half"
*cuts*
B-Roll of using the EVF.
Yah I didnt want to do it. But I did stick it out and gave it it's fair share. As for the B-Roll? Well the camera lies.
Nice street photo opportunity at 5:37 with the green bicycle and the green fire hydrant. Nevermind, we are busy with gear and tech specs 🤣
I will just wait for x100v - thanks fuji bit I will pass on this one
This innovation isn't useful today really is the same a Canon M5 i don't like it. Why Fuji do this camera.....
I was waiting for the histogram at the back of the screen with four layers of colors 😅
It would make so much sense! Maybe we will get it with final firmware. Begin the breath holding.
Chris Niccolls but at least I m nicely surprised with the Af limiter hope you do more videos with subjection toward companies. I do bet Fuji will innovate more on the video side after the xpro 3 release so I wish they do a slightly different light Mettering reading and smoother iso transition. 👌
Nice music choice. That intro was great :). I can see this camera working for people who really enjoy the process. I do as well, but I also enjoy low prices and efficiency. Not my camera, but it will have a market.
Obviously he was never a Leica M shooter during the film era... seeing what is about to enter the frame is a valuable tool!
Fun review, disappointing camera. As Chris says, the only real reason to get this instead of an X-T 3 is the OVF... and they've dumbed down the OVF compared to the X-Pro 2. The single magnification means I can't use my 16/1.4 at all, and the image using my 56 or 90 will be smaller and harder to see. I guess Fuji really figures most people will do like Chris and stick with the “electric” viewfinder, but then why go to the expense of including the OVF at all? Guess I won't be upgrading...
One feature that i waiting for you guys to talk about is the hdr function in the x-pro-3
Nobody will like the screen, real faulty design
But maybe I will get one...
14:32 whyyyyyyy. Would it kill Fuji to allow the excellent 10 bit and 60p capabilites of the x-t3 here?
*Ahem* well, you see the x-pro series is for 'pure photography" ... even though you've paid for the sensor and processor from the x-t3 ... something something the shooting experience
They are all doing it, to distinguish between models. They also want you to get the one for stills (high MP etc) and the one for video (microphone jack/video modes). Then add something new every year to incentivise the next upgrade. They keep the price high to make it feel 'premium'. They don't care about what you think you've paid enough for.
That screen is a complete disaster! Ok, I get it right: "focus more on photography"? What a nonsense! They could make it swivel back into position and at least give the photographer the OPTION to have a small or a big screen!🙄