How 4 LFOS into a mixer creates a sequencer.

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  • Опубликовано: 18 мар 2021
  • Here is a very ambient moment that accompanies my big 'Generative Suggested Systems' tutorial vid. In it, we turn four LFOs (via a mixer and quantizer) into a sequencer, and trip out running Radio Music into Rings, into the mighty FX Aid. Good times. GEAR LINKS IN DESCRIPTION ↴
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  • @fts4life
    @fts4life 3 года назад +11

    Pro Tip: Batumi with the expert or individual wavebank firmware can do this exact sequencing concept from the ASGN outputs in QUAD mode with ASGN set to Trapezoid. From the QUAD mode section of the alt firmware manual... "You can also use triangle, saw and ramps from the assignable ASGN outputs, but there is one exception in this mode: trapezoid has been replaced by a square. Contrary to the SQUARE output, which will always be binary, these squares are summed together, therefore producing repetitive sampled voltages. This square waveform is perfect to generate surprising sequences: feed the first assignable output to the FM input of your oscillator and change the levels."

  • @buyukberber
    @buyukberber 3 года назад +5

    The reason I don’t I have a sequencer module in my rack for years! MN Tempi is one of the best for this, since it allows for precise tapping of rhythms. Thanks!

  • @EleniEliades_
    @EleniEliades_ 3 года назад +3

    Quite a lovely tune. I enjoy these smaller Eurorack Case videos you've been doing lately along with the incredible Soundscapes created w/them. You always bring intelligent module + great patching ideas into every video as well. It's always a treat when I watch and listen to you creating~Ciao!💡🐾🎛🎵💥🤙

  • @Leggymolloy
    @Leggymolloy 3 года назад

    Amazing Stuff, really enjoying the recent generative vids with your smaller racks, so much inspiration seeing how much can be a achieved with just a handful of modules

  • @ig88andribs
    @ig88andribs 3 года назад +2

    Hands down my favorite modular technique so far. Thank you!!

  • @doublewah
    @doublewah 3 года назад +1

    What a brilliant video! Such a simple idea but what a lovely rich and above all *playable* hands-on generative system. One of those videos that makes me immediately turn on my system to recreate it.

  • @JaseLovesDub
    @JaseLovesDub 3 года назад

    Happy days indeed. The last minute or two of the jam was just what I needed to hear, so cheers!

  • @mewantgoodmusic
    @mewantgoodmusic 3 года назад

    Yes!!!!! As I was building a low pass filter last night I put my lfo in to the CV jacks and pondered this very thought. Thank you. The sound are beautiful as always.

  • @whitenoisefromelectronicto1728
    @whitenoisefromelectronicto1728 3 года назад

    Great content and lovely music as always!

  • @petersirca223
    @petersirca223 Год назад

    keep returning to suggested systems IV and this, wonderful performances. Thank you !

  • @mymodularjourney
    @mymodularjourney 3 года назад

    Magical! Very soothing. Creative patching as well. 👍

  • @TheMaalis
    @TheMaalis 3 года назад +1

    Great video. I've also occasionally made sequences from LFOs by using the bit inputs on the XAOC Drezno. With some attenuation and random modulation you get really nice evolving melodies. With the Lipsk expander it's even better.

  • @Digiphex
    @Digiphex 3 года назад +2

    This set had some nice moments and a good sounding reverb.

  • @Code_Unknown_Music
    @Code_Unknown_Music 3 года назад +1

    Sounds amazing!

  • @knasterask1
    @knasterask1 3 года назад

    Beautyful and inspiring!

  • @TheNimasan
    @TheNimasan 3 года назад

    bautifull....just can't stop listen. thanks for the emilie tipp

  • @lukepettett5075
    @lukepettett5075 3 года назад

    This is brilliant. I've got the Sonic Potions Penrose on my desk to build, as soon as it's done I'm having a blast at something similar...

  • @Larry30102
    @Larry30102 3 года назад

    Frickin super vid. Many thx!

  • @EdCosico
    @EdCosico 3 года назад

    Amazing patch!

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 3 года назад +22

    The quantizer is really what you need to make palatable sequences out of any looped stepped voltage (and anything becomes a stepped voltage with the help of a sample and hold). The mixer is a great tool for sculpting in real time though, and as always the music is lovely :)

    • @flourfree2K
      @flourfree2K 2 года назад +1

      Also delays make great "sequences".

  • @martintaylor9205
    @martintaylor9205 3 года назад

    Alex sublime as always, a Symphony from a diminished module case,always amazing ideas implementations
    Just ordered the Tenderfoot Quantiser today from Signal Sounds
    The PEST😃😎

  • @charlesfichter68
    @charlesfichter68 3 года назад

    Sounds lovely

  • @MODUS_OP
    @MODUS_OP 3 года назад

    Some excellent Mod Wiggling here!

  • @Jimantronic
    @Jimantronic 3 года назад +1

    Magic! Such a lot from so little 👌🙂

  • @erynwells4606
    @erynwells4606 3 года назад +3

    Woahhh, that Radio Music into Rings trick. That’s a good one.

    • @EpsteezyFoSheezy
      @EpsteezyFoSheezy 3 года назад +1

      i'm convinced that Rings really shines when treated like an effect. I love running Morphagene samples and complex oscillators through it.

    • @erynwells4606
      @erynwells4606 3 года назад +1

      @@EpsteezyFoSheezy I’ve been trying to think of it more as an effect than a voice these days. I even moved it over to my “effects” section in my rack. It’s capable of some pretty neat sounds when you use it that way. :)

    • @lukepettett5075
      @lukepettett5075 3 года назад

      Can anyone explain what happens when radio music goes into rings? Am I right in thinking that radio music excites the resonator but what we are hearing is rings?

    • @erynwells4606
      @erynwells4606 3 года назад +1

      @@lukepettett5075 Yeah, audio to the In input on Rings excites it. The effect is sounds kinda like a reverb to me.

  • @LarsBjerregaard
    @LarsBjerregaard 2 года назад

    Yeah, nice one Alex!

  • @joseph.nicolaus
    @joseph.nicolaus 3 года назад

    ... so again I can dream of modular synthesizers ... thank U so much!!!

  • @mixolydian2010
    @mixolydian2010 3 года назад

    Very nice Alex, forgot to thank you for the pulses idea from the last video. I used the outputs to trigger steps on the 960 sequencer. Take it easy.

  • @iancain6647
    @iancain6647 2 года назад

    This is beautiful

  • @HerrShield
    @HerrShield 3 года назад +5

    My favorite lfo for this kind of technique is acid rain maestro to get rhythmic sequences. I use maestro -> mixer -> intellijel scales with a separate gate sequence to generate acid melodies

  • @insecto.3725
    @insecto.3725 3 года назад

    lovely shimmer verb is always ambient heaven :) thats why I love my SPACE pedal so much! Sounds like the FX Aid does that very well for Euro Ambien Land too :)

  • @guysmiley7289
    @guysmiley7289 3 года назад

    Really beautiful dude.

  • @stevekirkby6570
    @stevekirkby6570 3 года назад +1

    One could say 'reasonably epic' :) Nice sounds.... and yea, FX-Aid is the dogs bits.

  • @localhost4460
    @localhost4460 3 года назад +1

    I think Rossum Electro-music Mob of Emus does something along these lines for setting up a sequencer. Great video!

  • @SageCircuits
    @SageCircuits 3 года назад

    This video needs to be at least three times as big!

  • @fablesofsilence
    @fablesofsilence 3 года назад +6

    2:50 "That's the sound of FX Aid not sucking" - indeed, indeed. Amazing how such a "simple" patch gives you so much sound. Well done.

    • @mylarmelodies
      @mylarmelodies  3 года назад +4

      Yeah I'm blown away by how good it sounds. This is the Shimmer preset I believe, at the end!

    • @fablesofsilence
      @fablesofsilence 3 года назад +2

      @@mylarmelodies I received mine and added it right into my recent live stream patch… and my first patch explanation video. Still haven't had time to check out the manual, I just pressed buttons until I found something awesome, and awesome it is!

    • @jeremymadalla8829
      @jeremymadalla8829 3 года назад

      FxAid is amazing and always growing... The algorithms are so incredibles and replace tons of modules in short hp !!

    • @fablesofsilence
      @fablesofsilence 3 года назад +1

      @@jeremymadalla8829 you mean I should read the manual? 😛 I did not even assume the possibilities for updates exist. Nice!

    • @jeremymadalla8829
      @jeremymadalla8829 3 года назад +1

      @@fablesofsilence haha, there is always new algorithms available, you can change it and personalize the FxAid firmware with the Fx of your choice 👍😉

  • @CinematicLaboratory
    @CinematicLaboratory 3 года назад

    Totally forking amazing.

  • @JoseRomero-yr3wl
    @JoseRomero-yr3wl 3 года назад

    Generative pleasures!⚡️🚀

  • @Alan_Watkin
    @Alan_Watkin 3 года назад

    Mate I was watching this over my tv an can't comment on that so had to go get my tablet,,,,, I'm quite new to the synth world as a whole really used to be a do lock down led me to find a new goal an this is what I sort of fell on, I'm rapidly building a set up through volcas, the crave an now a jump into eurorack (which was what I first seen that I felt that's what I want a go at) with the nifty bundle
    So yeah I found this vid fantastic, good work man, i can't wait to get the rack goin an start trying dif mods an just having fun with it, I've already got so much out of what I've already got but modular (witch my bundle should come in the next 2days) is I think something I'll be totally drawn into, anyway consider yourself now subscribed to, keep up that educational good shit coming,,,,, happy dayz

  • @owenthesoyboy
    @owenthesoyboy 3 года назад

    I'm here to say its nice to see a Pico VCF1 used in this way and that reminds me to explore the kinder side of sound than always making my VCF1 shred drums into oblivion.

  • @tshou520
    @tshou520 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @radical_ans
    @radical_ans 3 года назад +3

    ~ 7:00 we're getting into generative Vangelis territory.

  • @Spino138lolp
    @Spino138lolp 3 года назад

    very cool!

  • @Chasing_Thoughts
    @Chasing_Thoughts 3 года назад +8

    Mylar, do you ever create a patch without any sound? This has sort of become my process, I’ll just imagine what my goal is and start patching. Then I try and create with all those limitations.

  • @peterkulczycki6244
    @peterkulczycki6244 3 года назад +1

    I swear, generative modular principles will become synonymous with machine learning systems of the future. There’s just something organically neural about the setup of inputs, feedbacks and outputs.

  • @soejrd24978
    @soejrd24978 3 года назад +1

    Love some small tip videos!

  • @BeniRoseMusic
    @BeniRoseMusic 3 года назад +3

    I like to think of this technique as an analog computer. You still have 4 bits but instead of just binary values they represent whatever value are set by the knob they are directed into. So as the "digit" turns on and off, it adds or removes whatever value its placeholder represents.

    • @BeniRoseMusic
      @BeniRoseMusic 3 года назад +1

      Actually I said that wrong it’s still 4 binary bits but instead of their place holders being 8,4,2,1 those values are changing depending on the knobs.

  • @fincorrigan7139
    @fincorrigan7139 3 года назад +1

    Wonderful immersive soundscape = were you quantising? Cos if not....Gordon Bennett!!!!!!! You were, I👍😊 commented before the end - even my modest set-up could have a good crack at that :) Thank you for putting this together,,,

  • @benasaro1043
    @benasaro1043 3 года назад +1

    This was really cool! You can also get something similar using 3 random sources into a WORNG Vector Space. You will need more than one quantizer and synth voice, though ...

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv 2 года назад +1

      Yes! This is precisely why i bought a Vector Space just a week after I got that multi-channel ADDAC quantizer! It’s so satisfying, you just patch & fine tune and at some point beauty just emerges. And depending on how you set it up, it can be quite generative. The WORNG Vector Space is a highly underrated module. Maybe because it’s not 8hp. 😉 The ADDAC is just so performable. It beats the pants off of any quantizer with a menu

    • @benasaro1043
      @benasaro1043 2 года назад

      @@sub-jec-tiv Thanks for the tip, I'm ordering that ADDAC, it looks sick!

  • @_moosdohmen_
    @_moosdohmen_ 3 года назад

    You're getting really close to Autechre on SIGN in the last part. Gorgeous. Is that Rings in duophonic mode with Sympathetic strings?

  • @night_speed
    @night_speed 3 года назад +1

    I'm still hazy on the whole Steevio sequencing technique and i know you've touched on it several times. I have the ladik s180, s183 and doepfer precision adder all times 2 but for the life of me i can't figure out how to patch it all up. Plus i suck at reading modular grid diagrams. Sometimes when the cables overlap it's hard to tell what's going where.

  • @scottcampbell330
    @scottcampbell330 3 года назад +3

    You could riff off a whole ambient album with this tiny system 👌

  • @emilie9896
    @emilie9896 3 года назад

    The 65€ Doepfer A-115 (*) is perfect for this technique. Less flexible than with free running LFOs, but it only needs a clock.
    It's fairly easy after some time to understand how turning one of the knobs will affect the sequence.
    Also, technically, this is kind of like editing (some of) the coefficients of the Walsh-Hadamard transform of the sequence, rather than the sequence itself - some kind of additive synthesis applied to the shape of the sequence, rather than micromanaging the value of each step.
    (*) the output coupling jumper needs to be set to DC.

  • @simonsherbourne
    @simonsherbourne 3 года назад

    Oh that’s lush.

  • @BackspinZX
    @BackspinZX 3 года назад

    I stared long and hard at this trying to figure out how it was doing what it was doing until suddenly it all clicked into place.
    That's genius. Never would have thought to make that work that way.

    • @MrTombocho
      @MrTombocho 3 года назад +1

      hey, could you explain it? I usually understand this stuff pretty easily, but this is kinda obscure i guess, and there's not so much explaining done in the video
      (love the souds btw

    • @BackspinZX
      @BackspinZX 3 года назад +2

      @@MrTombocho Long story short, he's shoving a bunch of LFOs that go from 0v to (I'm assuming) +5v at their output, and attenuating them so they're somewhere in between 0 and +5v (using the Quadratt up top) and running them all into each other (also via the Quadratt up top) so they stack together. This gives you a sort of free-flwoing, changing stepped voltage sequence that's always evolving because the LFOs are all free-running and are moving at different speeds. At that point, you run them into a quantizer, and the voltages get turned into a usable set of notes in a generative sequence.
      It's genius, really.

  • @ElSWVisitor
    @ElSWVisitor 3 года назад +4

    This guy seems like a eurorack legend but I'm sure those plants are fake 🤔
    😂 Amazing stuff as always 😃👍

  • @DBPawlan
    @DBPawlan 3 года назад

    Just curious...what was the sound coming out of the Radio Music?

  • @drkakophanos3013
    @drkakophanos3013 2 года назад

    Would this be possible with 2 mother 32s?

  • @njdpdv
    @njdpdv 3 года назад

    🌸FKN EPIC🌸

  • @ranzee
    @ranzee 3 года назад

    because the mixer is purely mixing 4 square waves - could you not do this in a Maths? I get the magic sound is probably moreso at the Rings + FX side - but the actual point is the voltage mixing right?

  • @kirkegodfrey414
    @kirkegodfrey414 3 года назад

    how VERY lovely! floaty plinky zing oioioioio !

  • @chrischn2000
    @chrischn2000 3 года назад

    Hi, I think what you are doing here is what the volts expander for the Turing machine does, right? I think it is kind of a 'melody mixer'. I am loving the Turing machine with pulses and volts so much. Just a generative universe to be discovered there...

    • @mylarmelodies
      @mylarmelodies  2 года назад +1

      Late to reply sorry, yes I believe you’re right!!

  • @warrenwilcock8183
    @warrenwilcock8183 3 года назад

    Just so I'm following, the FX aid is providing a very long reverb, yes? That's how you're getting the long pad with a single voice?

  • @steveprue8144
    @steveprue8144 3 года назад

    that sounds awesome. I'm a bit confused where the output of the mixer goes? the output cable (which is white with a orange 90* head) goes off-screen and the green cable that inputs into Pico VCO to FX-Aid isn't connected to anything else in the case. so what's generating the sound? I'm sure I'm missing something.

    • @mylarmelodies
      @mylarmelodies  3 года назад +2

      Output of the mixer goes into the Erica Synths quantiser just to bring it all to scale, as the voltages will be off-key otherwise

    • @steveprue8144
      @steveprue8144 3 года назад +1

      @@mylarmelodies oh! the white cable 90* cable fading into the yellow straight plug into the quantizer threw me off. makes perfect sense. Thanks and love your channel!

    • @hvogel
      @hvogel 3 года назад

      @@steveprue8144 Ha, I was trying to find that cable trace as well. Mylarmelodies is a Fraud! LOL

  • @JS-vk7ek
    @JS-vk7ek 3 года назад

    OK MM, I am trying to figure this out and cannot work out where. the orange/peach capped white cable that is the result of the quad at the top comes back into the small case. Is there something off-screen we need to see, for the whole picture?

    • @mylarmelodies
      @mylarmelodies  3 года назад

      It’s going into the Pico Quant! Quite hard to see, sorry!

  • @GeorgeLocke
    @GeorgeLocke 3 года назад

    Ppl drooling, including myself, at this hardware ought to look to VCV Rack where you can reproduce this kind of setup very closely. There is a huge difference in interface, but it's a great tool for learning about the possibilities if nothing else.

    • @GeorgeLocke
      @GeorgeLocke 3 года назад

      Many of the modules here are duplicated in Rack (all the MI modules and the MTM), and what's left can reproduced without too much trouble.

  • @walrtbstudios5430
    @walrtbstudios5430 Год назад

    I don’t have Stages- I came late to the world of modular, by which time most MI gear was scarce as hen’s teeth- but I’m assuming that any four LFOs from (say) a Doepfer a-145-4 fed into (say) a Doepfer a-138n would have the same effect? Worth a try…

  • @scttcmpbll
    @scttcmpbll 3 года назад

    how is FX Aid so good? I need a 3rd...

  • @Dekkie61
    @Dekkie61 3 года назад

    2 things are not entirely clear to me:
    Are you using the LFO's as both 1v/oct ánd gates, or is something else sequencing the VCA?
    Are u using bi- or unidirectional LFO's

  • @grimtop4000
    @grimtop4000 3 года назад

    10/10

  • @tylersrevenge
    @tylersrevenge 3 года назад

    I don’t think I understand, how can you get a sequence from sending different gates into the mixer?

    • @Autotross
      @Autotross 3 года назад

      A gate is just a voltage, so by putting into a mixer and adjusting you get different voltages, which create different notes when used to control an oscillator.

  • @wonkyrobot
    @wonkyrobot 3 года назад

    ACE!

  • @azamarro
    @azamarro 3 года назад

    You need to release a proper physical album.

  • @synkrotron
    @synkrotron 3 года назад

    yeah

  • @TheSilentCartgraph3r
    @TheSilentCartgraph3r 3 года назад +1

    M E T R O P O L I X

  • @TheKeyboardSoldier
    @TheKeyboardSoldier 3 года назад

    Did I just hear a fragment of the Blade Runner theme at 6:36?

    • @charlesdilks3267
      @charlesdilks3267 3 года назад

      This whole piece is Blade Runner territory I love it

  • @wickfut
    @wickfut 3 года назад +1

    clock divider into mixer = sequencer

  • @thelanavishnuorchestra
    @thelanavishnuorchestra 3 года назад

    I really enjoyed this. I've listened to it three times now. It's a great sounding patch and a weird technique. I tried it out in VCV: ruclips.net/video/DS9ESzirqSw/видео.html. Being VCV, I constructed gates using gate to trigger converts and further shaped those with trigger delays to feed envelope generators. And used a quantizer to power other voices.

  • @flourfree2K
    @flourfree2K 2 года назад

    Isn't it nearly the same principle of the Doepfer A-115? Have a look: ruclips.net/video/FhMrpB_3-Yo/видео.html
    This module is very small (8HP - it could be even smaller, but! Dieter likes to work comfortably). it draws very little current,
    it's self containded (not icluding the LFO and VCO - well, it's basically a clock divider and a mixer) and cheap (56 Pounds on Thomann).
    You could add a quantizer to the patch, if you really wanto to exagerate.
    And it's all ANALOGUE circuitry, no SMD components nor programmed chips!
    It can be easily repaired, if needed - Or even rebuilt from scratch!
    As an alternative to the Doepfer A-115, the Doepfer A-145-4 Offers 4 LFOs in only 4HP (not even to mention the 4HP mixer, Doepfer A-138n).
    Both modules unfortunately use SMT, although the A-138n can be remade from scratch using through-hole components.

  • @jamiestewart1644
    @jamiestewart1644 3 года назад +1

    Careful now, your chariots on fire..

  • @kenschestok9515
    @kenschestok9515 3 года назад

    i might have to change my thumbs up to a thumbs down because i didn't hear you say "ace"!?!? ....seriously though that was great!