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I have the same setup as you. I upgraded from a 1050ti to a 4060, and I can feel a huge improvement. I researched information about bottlenecking on Reddit, and almost all of them said it's not a good idea to pair the 4060 with my 8-year-old CPU (i7 6700). Anyway, in my case, I still encounter a bottleneck in some games (for example, Battlefield 2042 or Battlefront 2), but it's not a big deal for me. My 4060 is still running at around 70-90%. So, I guess with this setup, I'll still have a good time with my 8-year-old PC for another 2-4 years.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad it worked out for you. Yeah, I think the RTX 4060 basically caps out the i7-6700 in many cases at 1080p. I don't play many games, but I usually use v-sync so I'm limited to 75 fps based on my monitor meaning the 4060 vs 1060 gives me a more consistent experience on the old CPU/RAM/MB. Its frustrating that Nvidia limited this card to 8GB of RAM and a 128-bit memory bus, but AMD is doing the same thing and uses more power. Intel ARC has even higher power use and a apparently a large performance drop on old systems without pcie resizable bar support. We've got limited options.
Dude, I have the i7 6700 and there is no stock of the 3060 so I'm going to buy the 4060. Do you recommend me even though it has a bottleneck? In the future I am going to change the CPU
Thanks for the video. I have the same setup as you. I'm thinking of upgrading to the 4060 but I'll probably end up getting the ti version but I do need to upgrade my 6700 but then again I don't really
I think the CPU/MB/RAM/SSD upgrade depends on what you do and how smooth of an experience you want there. Plus, how much money you have to spend. I'm not sure what the performance delta is between the standard and ti version is. I don't know if the the i7-6700 would be able to serve a 4060ti enough data to the card to benefit over a standard 4060. Though, whatever you get it could be an intermediate update before upgrading the entire computer. So in that case anything would work (the more future performance the better). Another quirk of the 4060 series and amd rx 7600 is that they have 8x pci-e instead of 16x lanes at, I think, version 4 but i7-6000 series CPU motherboards would be version 3, so we are losing bandwidth. Not sure if it is much performance in real world scenarios. It will be a while, but I plan on doing another video with the 4060 I bought after sending the low profile card back. My screens are 1080p, but I have a hdmi recorder/display that can capture 4k so I might be able to test at that resolution in this video.
I found the RTX 3050 6GB to be an excellent solution for systems with 300-350 Watt power supplies. I know a lot of negative has been said about it but for a max 70 Watt draw it delivers the goods for 1080P gaming.
That makes sense! Though the RAM amount is the same as the 1060 6GB in this video I'd imagine it's a nice overall performance bump with extras like RTX.
Benefit depends on the rest of your system by far at that point. A 4070 Ti would probably be significantly faster when it's unhindered than this 4060, so CPU and other components make more of a difference.
It's not so important that the 4060 have a gen 4 connection, but it does need resizable bar to do its best. Not having resizable bar will cost you about 10% of the card's abilities. It's not as critical as with the Intel cards, but it does still matter. Subscribed, BTW.
Glad the video was enjoyable for you! I have a ASUS Proart 4060 now and would like to do another video, but the card disappeared from Amazon making it kinda pointless to make a video about a card people can't buy. Hopefully it's a temporary thing.
Rebar can be added to older systems. A bios modification can be done as long as the bios supports above 4g decoding. Sometimes this option is hidden but can be shown with AMI software. Google x99 Xeon rebar.
I'm not an expert. It would depend on the quality of the PSU and what else you have in there. Though, considering the 4060 has a TDP of 115w it should be fine. www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060.c4107
What CPU and how much RAM? Do you use a SSD drive? The Intel i7-6700 CPU based does see benefit, but there are situations where the system is CPU limited.
I'm hoping to get an rtx 4060 soon I'm going to pair it with an i5 8500 and I might possibly get an i5 8700k before I buy a new motherboard but it will be interesting in games to see how frame generation will work against CPU bottlenecks as I've heard this feature sometimes alleviates it
I'm not sure if DLSS helps there, but you will likely see improvements. I've been playing a game called "POOLS" that has DLSS and it definitely has better performance with DLSS on. I also have a bunch of benchmark data for the ASUS 4060 Proart I bought after returning this Gigabyte card, but it's challenging going through the data to make a video on it. For this new video, if I'm able to do it, will have information on 4k as well as 1080p because I found a way to do that even though I have a 1080p screen (I used my Atomos Ninja V HDMI recorder that can handle 4k as a passthrough). I've seen some CPU limitations in the data at 1080p so far with games like Final Fantasy 14 Online (FFXIV benchmark). That i5-8500 should be at least 10% faster than the CPU I'm using.
@@TECHiSuppose yeah I have read in a few places that frame generation can also help with cpu limited frames aswell as gpu limited frames so it should be interesting I will be sure to give your video a watch when it comes
I have an i7-6700k and a gtx980ti currently...I am planning to do a new build in the near future, but I'm considering ordering an rtx 4070ti for now with plans to move it to the new build when i save up a bit more money. I know it would be bottle necked some, but if it still gives me more fps and i plan to build a new one soon with 14700k/14900k...think it would be worth it.
My newer video goes into more detail and shows some bottlenecks with a 4060. The user benchmark site says it's only 11% faster on average than your 980 ti, so I don't know how much more cpu performance is on the table unless the k variant is quite a bit faster than the normal i7-6700. That said, you will likely get other benefits like hardware video encode/decode improvements, and scaling technologies in the 4000 series (though I'm not sure how much it relies on the CPU for support).
@TECHiSuppose I have a 1440p monitor, from what I've read higher res screens are more gpu dependent and some how get better fps than a 1080 when being cpu bottle necked. Even if it doesn't get the best performance, if I can run games like ark asa and others on 1440 with max settings I'd be happy till I build a new one. Though I'm trying to find if the bottle neck will actually give worse results than just getting say a 2080ti or something from a previous gen. I think even a 1080ti was a good jump from 980ti...though I have to look it up again since I don't do this stuff full time.
I have done a bit more testing with a 4060 after this. There are a some situations where it will be bottlenecked. I doubt buying anything faster would be worthwhile.
That rtx 4060 can work a lot higher and harder than that... seriously hindered by the old 4 core 8 threads. :( I need to buy my MSI 4070 ti S and B760 Aurous AX for my unboxed i7 12700f XD Lazy dragon.
I don't have anything else to provide outside of what was covered in the video. It is possible there are some bottlenecks considering the old i7-6700 CPU. If we are talking higher resolutions it is possible that the GPU could be a limitation before the CPU would be, but it would depend on how CPU intensive a game is with other compute heavy tasks like AI, world physics, and other non rendering tasks in games.
Yeah, I assume those are nice options for some people. An extra 2 cores of the 8700 would be nice. Sadly my motherboard only supports up to the i7-7700K, which is 4 cores like mine and would have cost around $100. Benchmarking comparison sites list it as 16% faster. I'd be tempted to do it for a video but I doubt I'd get enough people interested in watching it to justify the expense. This channel is a long way from getting into the RUclips Partner Program (1000 subscribers and 4000 watch hours). At some point I want to upgrade the CPU/RAM/Motherboard all at once with current generation components. Maybe 7000 or 9000 series AMD.
@@TECHiSuppose i3 12100 is about 75 dollars New and it runs 4080! It's better than i7 8700. I found a i7 8700 about 60 dollars and a mobo 1151 V2 for 30 dollars...prices go down fast
Check out the GIGABYTE 4060 OC Low Profile 8G card:
B&H: bhpho.to/4970evV
Amazon: amzn.to/3IMz7vb
Or look for a used MSI 1060 6GB ARMOR 6G OC OCV1 card:
Amazon: amzn.to/43oY9Kt
ebay: ebay.us/3IqNQg
As an affiliate of these shops, I earn from qualifying purchases!
I have the same setup as you. I upgraded from a 1050ti to a 4060, and I can feel a huge improvement. I researched information about bottlenecking on Reddit, and almost all of them said it's not a good idea to pair the 4060 with my 8-year-old CPU (i7 6700).
Anyway, in my case, I still encounter a bottleneck in some games (for example, Battlefield 2042 or Battlefront 2), but it's not a big deal for me. My 4060 is still running at around 70-90%. So, I guess with this setup, I'll still have a good time with my 8-year-old PC for another 2-4 years.
Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad it worked out for you. Yeah, I think the RTX 4060 basically caps out the i7-6700 in many cases at 1080p. I don't play many games, but I usually use v-sync so I'm limited to 75 fps based on my monitor meaning the 4060 vs 1060 gives me a more consistent experience on the old CPU/RAM/MB. Its frustrating that Nvidia limited this card to 8GB of RAM and a 128-bit memory bus, but AMD is doing the same thing and uses more power. Intel ARC has even higher power use and a apparently a large performance drop on old systems without pcie resizable bar support. We've got limited options.
Planning to do the same, so it worth it?!
Since i dont mind not having using its 100% potential
I can update other specs later
Hey mate sorry just wondering i have the same cpu and graphic card as you but in Val my fps is really low
@@bryanwang3438 I bought the gpu, its been really good no issues on editing or play
Dude, I have the i7 6700 and there is no stock of the 3060 so I'm going to buy the 4060. Do you recommend me even though it has a bottleneck? In the future I am going to change the CPU
Thanks for the video. I have the same setup as you. I'm thinking of upgrading to the 4060 but I'll probably end up getting the ti version but I do need to upgrade my 6700 but then again I don't really
I think the CPU/MB/RAM/SSD upgrade depends on what you do and how smooth of an experience you want there. Plus, how much money you have to spend.
I'm not sure what the performance delta is between the standard and ti version is. I don't know if the the i7-6700 would be able to serve a 4060ti enough data to the card to benefit over a standard 4060. Though, whatever you get it could be an intermediate update before upgrading the entire computer. So in that case anything would work (the more future performance the better). Another quirk of the 4060 series and amd rx 7600 is that they have 8x pci-e instead of 16x lanes at, I think, version 4 but i7-6000 series CPU motherboards would be version 3, so we are losing bandwidth. Not sure if it is much performance in real world scenarios.
It will be a while, but I plan on doing another video with the 4060 I bought after sending the low profile card back. My screens are 1080p, but I have a hdmi recorder/display that can capture 4k so I might be able to test at that resolution in this video.
@@TECHiSuppose I'll be waiting for the video. I still games at 1080P. Thanks for the info
@@jamesmichaelcabrera9613 I just finished it. That was a long process! ruclips.net/video/b0cp-_laM90/видео.html
I found the RTX 3050 6GB to be an excellent solution for systems with 300-350 Watt power supplies. I know a lot of negative has been said about it but for a max 70 Watt draw it delivers the goods for 1080P gaming.
That makes sense! Though the RAM amount is the same as the 1060 6GB in this video I'd imagine it's a nice overall performance bump with extras like RTX.
Same for 220 watt power supplies. i7 6700 32gb rtx 3060 6gb pulls 163 watts at the wall under CPUz stress and furmark.
Glad I saw your vid. I have my 1060 6Gb to compare though I’m tempted by the 4070, the super and it’s Ti variants
Benefit depends on the rest of your system by far at that point. A 4070 Ti would probably be significantly faster when it's unhindered than this 4060, so CPU and other components make more of a difference.
Big difference, nice !
Yep, even with my old CPU. Glad you enjoyed the video!
It's not so important that the 4060 have a gen 4 connection, but it does need resizable bar to do its best. Not having resizable bar will cost you about 10% of the card's abilities. It's not as critical as with the Intel cards, but it does still matter. Subscribed, BTW.
Glad the video was enjoyable for you! I have a ASUS Proart 4060 now and would like to do another video, but the card disappeared from Amazon making it kinda pointless to make a video about a card people can't buy. Hopefully it's a temporary thing.
Rebar can be added to older systems. A bios modification can be done as long as the bios supports above 4g decoding. Sometimes this option is hidden but can be shown with AMI software. Google x99 Xeon rebar.
Sir, I'm using i7 6700, and want to change my 1060 3gb, i use 500 watt FSP PSU, would it be okay? What PSU you use sir and how many watt? May i know?
I'm not an expert. It would depend on the quality of the PSU and what else you have in there. Though, considering the 4060 has a TDP of 115w it should be fine. www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4060.c4107
I am using a Gigabyte ga-z170 (2016) old mobo. Can i still place a 4060 on it? And get a little improvement?
What CPU and how much RAM? Do you use a SSD drive? The Intel i7-6700 CPU based does see benefit, but there are situations where the system is CPU limited.
I still used this cpu faithful 9 years later but I need a gpu to render 2k &4k footage . Since I'm not a gamer mysetup is fine.
Yeah, it's been good enough for a long time!
I'm hoping to get an rtx 4060 soon I'm going to pair it with an i5 8500 and I might possibly get an i5 8700k before I buy a new motherboard but it will be interesting in games to see how frame generation will work against CPU bottlenecks as I've heard this feature sometimes alleviates it
it should also be noted that in like maybe a year i will probably fully upgrade my motherboard and cpu fully
I'm not sure if DLSS helps there, but you will likely see improvements. I've been playing a game called "POOLS" that has DLSS and it definitely has better performance with DLSS on.
I also have a bunch of benchmark data for the ASUS 4060 Proart I bought after returning this Gigabyte card, but it's challenging going through the data to make a video on it. For this new video, if I'm able to do it, will have information on 4k as well as 1080p because I found a way to do that even though I have a 1080p screen (I used my Atomos Ninja V HDMI recorder that can handle 4k as a passthrough). I've seen some CPU limitations in the data at 1080p so far with games like Final Fantasy 14 Online (FFXIV benchmark). That i5-8500 should be at least 10% faster than the CPU I'm using.
@@TECHiSuppose yeah I have read in a few places that frame generation can also help with cpu limited frames aswell as gpu limited frames so it should be interesting I will be sure to give your video a watch when it comes
Я так и не понял, 6700К справиться с производительностью 4060, или нет?
К чему эти тесты!
I have an i7-6700k and a gtx980ti currently...I am planning to do a new build in the near future, but I'm considering ordering an rtx 4070ti for now with plans to move it to the new build when i save up a bit more money. I know it would be bottle necked some, but if it still gives me more fps and i plan to build a new one soon with 14700k/14900k...think it would be worth it.
My newer video goes into more detail and shows some bottlenecks with a 4060. The user benchmark site says it's only 11% faster on average than your 980 ti, so I don't know how much more cpu performance is on the table unless the k variant is quite a bit faster than the normal i7-6700. That said, you will likely get other benefits like hardware video encode/decode improvements, and scaling technologies in the 4000 series (though I'm not sure how much it relies on the CPU for support).
@TECHiSuppose I have a 1440p monitor, from what I've read higher res screens are more gpu dependent and some how get better fps than a 1080 when being cpu bottle necked. Even if it doesn't get the best performance, if I can run games like ark asa and others on 1440 with max settings I'd be happy till I build a new one. Though I'm trying to find if the bottle neck will actually give worse results than just getting say a 2080ti or something from a previous gen. I think even a 1080ti was a good jump from 980ti...though I have to look it up again since I don't do this stuff full time.
@@TECHiSupposewill check out your newer video for sure
hello bro, l need to know what is the best gpu for the i7 6700 , without bottleneck ?! thank you
I have done a bit more testing with a 4060 after this. There are a some situations where it will be bottlenecked. I doubt buying anything faster would be worthwhile.
So is this set up suitable for gaming?
Bro can I paired rtx 3060 with i7 6th generation processor or not?
why?4060 have the same price but newer dlss and less power consume, 3060 is 4 years old and 4060 is a 1 year old
That rtx 4060 can work a lot higher and harder than that... seriously hindered by the old 4 core 8 threads. :( I need to buy my MSI 4070 ti S and B760 Aurous AX for my unboxed i7 12700f XD Lazy dragon.
Dose it bottleneck?
I don't have anything else to provide outside of what was covered in the video. It is possible there are some bottlenecks considering the old i7-6700 CPU. If we are talking higher resolutions it is possible that the GPU could be a limitation before the CPU would be, but it would depend on how CPU intensive a game is with other compute heavy tasks like AI, world physics, and other non rendering tasks in games.
barely
used i7 8700 and i5 11400 is about 70-80 dollars . they run even 4080 ... i7 6700 is crap...runs at 2133
Yeah, I assume those are nice options for some people. An extra 2 cores of the 8700 would be nice. Sadly my motherboard only supports up to the i7-7700K, which is 4 cores like mine and would have cost around $100. Benchmarking comparison sites list it as 16% faster. I'd be tempted to do it for a video but I doubt I'd get enough people interested in watching it to justify the expense. This channel is a long way from getting into the RUclips Partner Program (1000 subscribers and 4000 watch hours). At some point I want to upgrade the CPU/RAM/Motherboard all at once with current generation components. Maybe 7000 or 9000 series AMD.
@@TECHiSuppose 7700k is dead...i3 10100 , i5 8500 cost 30 dollar and run way better than 7700!, native 2700 mhz
@@TECHiSuppose i3 12100 is about 75 dollars New and it runs 4080! It's better than i7 8700. I found a i7 8700 about 60 dollars and a mobo 1151 V2 for 30 dollars...prices go down fast