The eye parallels the observation of the full moon which is heavily connected to the menstrual cycle of women every month as well as the seeing eye of judgment.
The whole "witch" thing actually seems somewhat plausible. I just watched it earlier tonight and I think I'm becoming obsessed with it. This is actually my first Refn film and I'm really glad I saw it. 9/10 for me.
Great review, to me the third act was slightly foreshadowed earlier in the movie when *SPOILERS* Sarah started sucking the blood out of Jesses hand after the casting. But it was one of those moments where you don't realise that it was a hint until the pay off happens.
Francis Viola not just that but also the mountain lion scene where it's ripping apart something and the landlord tells jesse that it's her fault for letting the lion in is (I think ) a foreshadowing to how she was ripped apart ,by the model,because she had once let in "the neon demon " and was then consumed by it . Literally .
I completely agree about the feeling of withces/coven/dark fairy tale. The whole movie reminded me so much of Suspiria(1977) I am glad I was not the only to catch that vibe. I loved Neon Demon.
Very much enjoyed this review. Three thoughts (spoilers obviously)-- first, the fact that he mostly shoots his movies chronologically so that they can change from the original idea in the course of filming accounts for *some* of the shifts in the film. Apparently the metaphysical nature of the last act was a rewrite that came about once he was blown away by Jena Malone. They did the morgue scene early and out of order and once he saw her in action he was like "Okay, we really have something here." Second, the photographer seems in his way to be a kind of rival sorceror to the coven, needing to feed on that same special *something* that they do (albeit in a different fashion), and zeroing in on Jesse as early as they do. It also accounts for Ruby's warning to Jesse not to be alone with the photographer, which Jesse initially misinterprets and which Ruby clarifies has nothing to do with him being some kind of sexual threat. Third, her being a virgin is obviously very significant, and that being the case, I think it casts an interesting light on Ruby's overwhelming sexual desire for Jesse: if Jesse had given in to Ruby, would it have saved her life (as she would no longer have been a virgin sacrifice)? I guess what I'm coming away with is, was Jesse's fate always sealed from the start, or was it only sealed once she rejected Ruby? Ruby clearly gets something different from the sacrifice than the other two.
I saw The Neon Demon four days ago, and it definitely leaves a lasting impression. It was not perfect by any means, but worth seeing. On the other hand, your review was absolutely perfect; insightful, nuanced. Nicely done! I am truly impressed!
Yeah, this is definitely one that stays with you. I saw it almost a week ago and I can't wait to watch it again. I like the "witch's coven" interpretation too.
I think you're right that there is some supernatural element to Ruby and the two models she's friends with. I thought it was very unusual that Ruby was always around, or even stalking Jesse. I even suspect that she was the animal that got inside her motel room.
If the vampire/witch interpretation was taken literally, could the cougar in Jesse's room have been one of the women (Ruby, Abbey or Gigi)? Saw the movie today and was enchanted and disturbed. The film raises questions about style vs. substance and, in my opinion, favors style. I liked the reference to Lolita about half way through the film, since Lolita, like the Neon Demon, explores the relationship between aesthetics and morality/substance. Overall, great but not perfect movie. If you can take it as it is, it's an interesting experience.
+Impression Blend I have read an earlier version of the script, which is much more clearer than what we see in the film. First of all, Ruby is a witch. There was a scene, in which Jesse goes to her actual flat and she has a bunch of sorcery books. And another scene (after the blood bath) in which it is made clear that Ruby was trespassing the mansion (the owners were on vacation) and Jessie's old Buick is actually featured and not only mentioned like in the film.
I see the look of Ruby in her bath everytime I close my eyes. Haunting. Deeply haunting. And the music. Damn. It's like falling in love. With a movie ? Waow. Crzay moment. o__O
I live in Alaska so I finally just watched this. I'm glad you did a review of this. I found Neon Demon to be a fairy tale. From the first moment Jenna Malone showed up I felt she was circling around Elle Fanning to steal something from her. The party scene directly after the strange David Lynchian (lot's of Lynch here) bathroom discussion, where the pulsing music and strobe effects take over, spelled everything out. Then that vibe subsides a bit. But it sets the tone. I agree with you. Not a perfect film but quite memorable and a surprising performance from Elle. And one of a handful of films that play with the borderland between beauty and horror. A couple of my other favorites are both French: Les Yeux Sans Visage (Eyes Without A Face) and Livide (Livid). You might scare these up. Thanks again for the thoughtful review Mariana.
This movie much like the runway scene and the actual neon demon enters your mind and stays there. I have been constantly thinking about it for the last three days. What surprised me the most was how much I liked Abbey Lee's performance. She steals every scene she's in. All the performances were good but I didn't expect it from her. It did feel like the women were a coven but not really witches. More like obsessed selfish monsters like in the movie Ravenous.
The Neon Demon is amazing ...Beautiful horror... and I agree with you on the Soundtrack. I have heard a few people talk about the witch angle. Some people even think that the cougar/mountain lion is a shape shifting witch. I also can see some similarities to It Follows, in tone and soundtrack. Great review...thx
This is a film that's unforgettable. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. The visuals are so striking. It was almost like a dark fairy tale (muck like Drive). Sure, it was a bit unsettling and very weird, but those are arguably the prime reasons I can't stop thinking about it. The themes are relevant. I think the film speaks on vanity and self indulgence in an intriguing way. I enjoyed this film. I think Refn is hit or miss with critics but he's undeniably talented. I loved Bronson, Drive and the Pusher series. Neon Demon has some great performances too, particularly from Jena Malone who stole the show for me. I definitely want to see this again. It'll be a cult classic for sure.
I absolutely agree - you can love or hate his films, but it's undeniable he is a talented director with a unique vision. I bet a few decades later people will be studying this guy at film schools.
So far, this is the best review of this film I've seen so far. And I've been stuck in that neon trance since I've seen it. However, I think I had six anxiety attacks during the film. Either through the haunting music and atmosphere or a thrilling scene.
It did not remind me of a ritual performed by a coven of witches. It reminded me of the accounts of Erzebet Bathory. What convinced me of this was Ruby in the tub with the water with the blood of Jesse in it, and the two other girls covered in the blood of Jesse whom are also bathing, but in a shower. Also, the three girls consumed the flesh of Jesse. Erzebet Bathory was reputed to bathe in the blood of 600 young virgin girls, and was also reputed to have engaged in some cannibalism of the these young girls. Bathory did this because she thought bathing in the blood of a young virgin girl would give her more youth and beauty. Also, another individual suggested the eye at the end was an allusion to "The Tell-Tale Heart" -- not just a reference to the statement made by Jesse about the Moon being an eye -- for two reasons. First, the eye of the victim in "The Tell-Tale Heart" was the reason why the murderer murdered the victim, as the murderer thought the eye was producing an effect of evil upon the murderer. Second, the eye in that scene in "The Neon Demon" could symbolize the guilt that Gigi had for the act of murder and cannibalism she participated upon Jesse; just as how the sound of a beating heart in the mind of the murderer from "The Tell-Tale Heart" was a symbol of the guilt he experienced from the act of murder and dismemberment of the body of the victim at the end of the story.
yes. Refn actually said the movie was inspired by Bathory. In fact when I saw Ruby in the tub I immediately thought of her as Bathory. Bathory was a Countess and she's in that big mansion.. Makes sense.
Giiiirl I finally found someone speaking about the witch stuff!! I have the exactly same vision about the whole ritual thing that happens with the virgin blood and i also think that this is why we see triangles all the time, it may be a simbology to witchcraft and there's one for which girl
Oh my gosh, I was the same way! Watched it last night and can't stop thinking about it. And yes, I listened to the soundtrack all day at work on Spotify and then bought it on iTunes when I came home! There are so many times I've had a song stuck in my head, this might be the first time I ever had a movie stuck in my head. There was definitely a witches coven vibe, especially with the moon and blood imgery. The three antagonists (Ruby, Sarah and Gigi, definitely form a triumvirate, fitting for the triangles that surround Jesse in every major moment of change for her character, including her moments in the pool looking up. ,
To add to the coven vibe, someone also pointed out how many times the triangle symbol is used in the movie, which is definitely an important symbol in witchcraft. I feel like the blood and the moon scene (this may be too literal, but hey I'm trying to make sense of it here) could be Ruby getting her youth back after killing Jesse - I guess it was mentioned in one of the interviews that her character may actually be 300 years old.
I loved it! I also can't stop thinking about it. Not much phases me in this genre it got my attention, it was disturbing, intriguing and unsettling. It will definitely become a cult classic! I also rated it 4/5 stars.
This was definitely one of my most anticipated movies of 2016 and didn't get a chance to see it in theaters because it was such a limited release. I rented the other night on iTunes because I just could not wait one more week for the blu ray release aaaaand I absolutely LOOOVED it! And this is actually the first film of Nicholas Winding Refn's that I've seen.
I'm so glad you loved it! Definitely check out _Drive_ and _Bronson_ - Refn is a very interesting director, I'm always excited about his films coming out.
I'm not a Refn fan. I didn't appreciate even Drive. But somehow I thought I'd like Neon Demon. I just saw it today at an early afternoon, sparsely attended showing which was a perfect atmosphere to view it. Marianna, this is one of your best reviews and I wasn't surprised to find out you liked it. Pacing and the jarring changes the story goes through will be a problem for most but I loved it. I agree that there is a Grimm's fairy-tale vibe going on. The visuals and score worked to add to the beauty and weirdness of the film. Elle Fanning, and the three weird "sisters" were excellent. Thanks
Thank you! There was only one person other than me at the showing I went to, and I agree , it just adds to the atmosphere. If anything, that made everything even creepier haha
I'm subscribing because you got me so into your review that I felt the need to comment below in my mother language 👏🏽 because of the excitement 😁 eventhough I know no one would ever understand it 👶🏽
Neon Demon was definitely, as you mentioned, an experience. I need to see it a second time to truly decide on whether I love it or hate it. This film, like most of Refn's films, brooks no middle ground. One either loves them or hates them. I think the film is a full-blown horror film. It's just a slow burn that leads up to that third act. Whether he was subconsciously channeling his inner Jean Rollin and Dario Argento, but Neon Demon was like REfn's riff on the 70's and 80's Italian giallo. From the use of garish color that reminded me of Suspiria and the dream-like sequences that was Jean Rollin at the height of his filmmaking skills. I think everyone should see Neon Demon. They'll either love it or hate it, but one thing they won't be is bored or disinterested. This film will definitely pull a reaction of one form or another.
I totally agree, after everything that happens in the third act it definitely seems like a slow-burn horror film. It just comes at you out of nowhere, which is actually pretty brilliant.
I also had a tough time rating this one. I ended up giving it a B+, but it was also a film on which the minute it ended, I wanted to see it again. I saw Jesse as a lost, innocent lamb in a city of hungry wolves. But I also understand the witches coven interpretation, and, the more I think about it, the more I think Refn was mostly going for that aspect.
Thanks for your spot on review.. In both "Enemy", "Under the skin" and this beauty "The Neon Demon", the directors choose to use these parallel explanatory clips of wonderful weirdness.. Beautifully painfull to watch.. Refn also seems to use "horror" in sounds and lighting as an xtra protagonist all by itself and it ads a layer in the story which inspires to deeper thinking, which continues for days in some of us.. I love that xtra dimension so much I gladly accepts the pacing issues and weird "goreporn".. Oh yeah and the soundtrack!!
Impression Blend,me to. I totally agree. DV's Enemy is amazing and has that long lingering effect to.. Even after watching it numerous times.. Any recommendations in that genre? Love your reviews.. B
they sacrificed a virgin for Sarah, that is the plot. they gold painted Jess like they do with animals in ancient tribes. the movie was not style over substance, i mean, it actually had a very profound substance to it, if the substance here was the style lmao - actually it has David Lynch and Kubrick kinda vibe to it which I think this movie is one of the best movies ive seen so far.
I liked it, you can take it as either a disturbing LA crime story involving models or a complex symbolic representation of ideals and non physical qualities using the characters and plot.
I love those type of films when it makes a film makes a 180 and throws you off. Kind of like Dusk till dawn, The watch, The Worlds end, and Audition. I will definitely look for this film.
I had the same feeling you had after seeing the Neon Demon. Every time I think about I just love it more. This movie has my favorite original score and cinematography of 2016 so far. Also I like how the story makes you think as well. This a movie that should be analyzed and discussed to find out what this movie is going for. I hope to see this again soon before it leaves theaters. Plus it's an Amazon studios movie which will go to Amazon prime before it comes out on bluray which I know I'll pick up day one.
I love how divisive this movie is, to be honest. Haven't seen anyone with a "middle of the road" opinion on this yet. What an experience! Can't wait to see it again :)
Just watched it a few weeks ago. I absolutely saw the witches coven aspect from the restroom scene near the beginning (which was quite Lynchian). They seemed to be sizing her up. The bondage dance club scene immediately after has an incantory quality as well. And here's what's really interesting, there seems to be a new wave of highly stylized films coming out. It's almost a movement. Think Under The Skin, Behind The Black Rainbow, The Love Witch, Lords of Salem, That Poppy videos, etc. all of these purposely jump off of the reality train to create dream visions more than coherent logic. I think these films are a (usually) low budget creative reactions to the overly efficient cinema of the present, where everyone seems to be scripting things out of a screenplay manual. I suspect this hyperstylization will grow more. Good review here Mariana, glad I got back to it.
Thank you! The highly stylized movies are almost a sub-genre of their own at this point, but I think they can be VERY hit or miss, and they're definitely divisive for the audiences. Personally, I enjoy a visually-stunning film, but there has to be something behind the style-I'm there for the story and themes over anything else.
Yes, although Refn might say take it literally or whatever, he's definitely leading you to think otherwise. I didn't care for Valhalla either. But The Neon Demon is definitely going to get a polarizing reaction. I've read some that hated it. As far as ratings, I guess that's why Siskel & Ebert just went thumbs up (go see it) or down (don't). I gave it a four starts too. Maybe 3.5, but I had to round it up to 4 for the cinematography alone, and going against the Hollywood norm and formula. Probably make it to my Top Ten of 2016.
Refn mentioned in interviews that he wants to make movies that get polarizing reactions - he doesn't want to make "safe" movies. I can definitely respect that and the way he sticks to his vision.
It sounds and looks very interesting but I don't think it's a movie for me, at least not right now ;). Great review and even better editing :D Have a nice day!
(Minor spoilers) I completely agree with the witch coven thing. I never thought of it that way. It reminded me of the story of Bloody Mary, who bathed in the blood of virgins to steal their beauty. I'm actually going to see this film for the third time, so I'll watch it again with that mindset.
Definitely something witchy going on, but I'm not sure about a coven. Jena Malone's character seems to have done this sort of things before, but the other two girls seem to be totally out of their element. The rose bushes kinda tip me off to that as well. They're scattered around the home, and she seems to be planting another in the shallow grave she lays in right after killing Jessie. Plus I read an interview where Jena Malone herself said "She's like 300 years old and this is like the 80th girl she's done this too".
The third act was very horror like for sure. It was a jarring shift in tone. But, I wasn't suprisied entirely because the film was already in incredibly strange territory in the first two acts. When I first experienced the 3rd act, I was definitely thinking "witches" lol.
Interesting. Loved Drive, Valhalla Rising and Only God Forgives. Can't wait to see this one. For my money, he's the most exciting director currently working.
Great review. I have that weird feeling where I'm so excited for this movie that it's probably my most anticipated of this year now, and yet because of my reactions to NWR's previous films, I'm worried I'll hate it ;) ha ha. I really didn't like Only God Forgives at all, but at the same time I absolutely love Drive and Bronson. I thought his style was executed to near perfection in Drive. It just felt so intricate and precise. Not a single shot or line of dialogue was without purpose in that film :) He's a hit and miss director for me too, but his good films are absolutely outstanding. Can't wait to discuss this movie more after I've seen it :) I really don't know if I like Drive or Bronson the most, both so good :)
Thank you! I hope you get to see this one soon, and it's definitely an experience. Don't worry though, I wouldn't was it's similar to _Only God Forgives_ - the pacing in that one was killing me lol
I've really been debating going out to watch this movie, but I've always trusted your reviews so I'll more than likely be seeing it within the next couple of days. Thanks as always for putting out honest reviews ^.^
GOD I'M SO CURIOUS TO SEE THIS!!! But it's not in any theater near me cuz the strict censoring would probably render the movie 5 seconds long! GOD! I NEED TO SEE THIS!
I too enjoyed this movie, also have the soundtrack on my phone. Great thoughts on the third act, never thought of it that way myself but it definitely fits.
I really disliked this one. However, I would like to recommend *Beyond the Black Rainbow* (2010) if you have not seen it already. It's very visually driven and "artsy", but I found it fascinating and intoxicating. You should definitely check it out!
I watched the movie because I heard so many people rave about it... to answer your question, I don't know if this was some sort of witches coven because it definitely seemed like the girl at the end hadn't done what she did with the other girls to Jessie.. pacing... I would say slow.. and I'm all for exposition, but there wasn't much of that going into the 3rd act.. there was no hint that the make up artist and the 2 models were into that together.. yes there is the scene when Jess cuts her self that could hint at it.. but it was disconnected from the other girls.. and Jena Malone is a make up artist... and yeah a little obsessed with death... but that scene seemed like she was just imaging a living Jess.. not a dead one. The last 10 minutes are intense.. when the one girl gets sick because I knew what was going to happen... and after it did.. I knew that the next thing would happen, because the other model was slowly reaching for it... I could buy that this was like their first time doing this... but there was no hint they were collaborating together.. and Jena just being mad that Jess rejected her advances seems a bit weak for her to get involved...
It catches me so off guard when you curse idk why lol but great review! I love Refn's films but unfortunately I have to wait to see this one since it's not playing anywhere near me :(
***** Hardy was amazing in it and that was pretty much it. I saw it a couple years back so I might need to give it a re-watch. Should I go see this film?
Kyle Gaunt Reviews Pffft I don't know, if you don't like Refn's style - maybe not? But I think there is so much to analyze in his movies, people are going to be studying him in film schools eventually, I guarantee.
REALLY need to see this film, great review and I skipped that spoiler section. Idk what to expect. Also which film did you like more from him, Drive or Bronson? I love Bronson more because of Tom Hardy's performance alone.
It's been a while since I watched _Drive_, so I'm tempted to say _Bronson_ because it's fresher in my mind... I'll have to get back to you on this :) Tom Hardy is outstanding in that film though!
I didn't get a witchy feel from it (of course, I'm active in occult groups, so Winding & I might have different ideas about things). However, those are some good points (the moon, etc). I think it _was_ style above substance, but considering the subject matter it was almost certainly intentional (and the correct way to go with it). I was mostly just getting bored because nothing was happening but captivated enough by the beautiful cinematography that when the third act hit, it hit HARD.
I don't know, in any other film I might agree but in this case, I think the pacing was exactly what it needed to be. Personally, the pacing is reminiscent of a relationship I once had with with a model: 1st Act = Getting hooked-in by the beauty. 2nd Act = It starts looking-like beauty is the only thing the film has going for it. One questions whether its worth continuing to watch a film for the sake of beauty alone and may even regret having started watching the film. 3rd Act = The ending is pure insanity. I think this is also intended to reflect how the audience is supposed to feel about the lead character while watching it: really interesting in the beginning, boring but not quite annoying in the middle, and really interesting in the end. That isn't to say that the film _didn't_ have anything other than beauty going for it, just that all the substance didn't become clear until the 3rd act (although it had been there all along). Its actually a very intelligent film trying to present itself as a very superficial film - which would ruin almost any other film but is absolutely perfect here. The film is criticizing 21st Century cinema audiences for being superficial, fickle, and not recognizing a good thing until its over. The lead character is the film itself and the other characters (of which there are only a few) are caricatures of the audience. Those who stick with the movie all the way to the end (even if they had some doubts midway through) are rewarded, and those who are bored with it or only like it for the imagery alone are mocked by the film itself. I'm going to have to watch it again and pay closer attention to the witchy symbolism described in yor review.
People can be monsters while looking at their best. Loved Drive and Only God Forgives so this was no different. Need to check Valhalla Rising though haha.
Fascinating! Your reviews, as always aid in my decisions to watch a movie or not. I have to say as well, that your language surprised the fuck out of me. I have to see it on that alone.
I heard this film was booed at a film festival earlier this year. Hmm.. I'm curious to watch this movie because of how you say it turns into some weird shit towards the end. I'll catch it when it comes online. Btw, fancy background. Looks like you're about to show off your modeling skills. Work it girl!! *snaps fingers*
Haha thanks! Decided to use this background because it felt appropriate for this movie :) Refn always gets very polarizing reactions at festivals, and he even said that's the feedback he likes - he doesn't want to make movies everyone loves because he thinks that's too safe, he wants to divide audiences.
Spoilers ahead. I enjoyed the movie, but not really enough to own a copy. It just isn't something I can show to my friends, they wouldn't appreciate the color and composition of scenes. As you said, I imagine this film will sail over a lot of peoples heads, it isn't the most accessible picture for main stream audiences. However, I found the many elements of foreshadowing to be very clever, and the beauty of some shots made me pause the movie just to admire them. Really great stuff, and if you can enjoy a film from that element alone, you'll like this one. As far as the witch coven goes, I got a sense of that as well. Though I took them to be LITERAL demons-- the cannibalism drives this home for me. Especially in the case of Ruby and Sarah, who seemed to have some magical elements to them. They did some impossible things, and I find it hard to see that as only symbolism. I don't know, maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part. But that's not to say the title isn't also metaphorical. I believe it's very obvious to see that the "neon demon" is the fashion industry itself. On a side note, the cougar scene really bothered me. Just because I'm nitpicky and I know they used tiger sounds for the mountain lion's roar. That sort of a pet peeve of mine. Oh, and I'm glad to see that Charles Baker is still getting work, even if it is just a bit part. I was worried his career would be ruined by Breaking Bad.
This is just a terrific film and your review is fantastic. I have not been able to get this film out of my head. I found it truly incredible. From the hypnotic score to the almost pornographic cinematography this was an experience. I really want to see it again.
Which is ironic because I saw a recent interview with Refn where he says while he enjoys his creative freedom, he'd love to direct a big budget Hollywood blockbuster. Which, if I were to pick one director who's films are polarizing and flat out different, it's NWR. I don't think I'd ever recommend one of his films, especially this one because 99% of people wouldn't get it. But you won't see anything like this all year. You won't hear a score like this all year and won't see cinematography like this all year. Like I said good or bad, that's admirable. Okay I'm done now!!
+Impression Blend With regard to your witches' coven impression, I think you are on the right track, but they impressed me as rabid wolves, devouring anything they wanted, especially anything, or anyone, that got in their way. I think this idea ties back to the wild cat they find in her motel room --a feral animal that represents danger and death. Anyway, that was my take. That being said, I didn't like this movie that much. It was okay, but not great. It definitely didn't stay with me or have me thinking about it later in a "haunted" sort of way. Even though I liked Only God Forgives quite a bit, I found Refn's shocking scenes in this one, and there are two in particular involving Ruby, that are just way too contrived. You can practically see Refn patting himself on the back for "daring" to do them....and I think Refn intended my reaction to be much, much stronger than it was. I actually think it all falls a bit flat because those scene's sole purpose is to shock/disturb/offend. It was a bit too self-conscious and I just didn't buy it. You could have removed those scenes and lost nothing. They serve no other purpose other than Refn getting off at your shock and incredulity. (You can find interviews with Refn going on about how "the reaction" is everything and in artistic terms, "why else are we even here?" I enjoy the guy's films but he's definitely more than a little impressed with himself.) Anyway, I think Drive and Forgives are much, much stronger films. As an aside, for some reason the picture quality here in your video is much better than what I saw when I watched the film itself on Amazon Video (their streaming service). It was supposed to have been in HD but your clips look much better. I had no interest in seeing the movie again, but I might now if I could rent it from a source that looks better.
Amazon automatically determines whether or not to play the movie in HD quality, based on your internet connection, and sadly there isn't a way to manually tell it to load HD regardless. I just used the trailers for my video though.
When you stream on amazon, you have to pay more for the HD version, although I watched it for free through Prime. Anyway, HD streaming content never looks as good as Blu because of bandwidth issues. The interesting thing with your video in my case is it's streaming vs. streaming. It all boils down to the fact that, obviously, Amazon HD is clearly not stellar quality.
Hi, I was just wondering where you got your footage of the movie for your video? I have searched and there are scenes in your review that are new to me. The Neon Demon by the looks of it won't be showing where I live and I would really like to watch the whole movie as I love Nicolas Winding Refn's movies and also Jena Malone. Also btw I love your channel! Thanks
The movie is subjective with its metaphors and deeper meanings for sure. However I think the one theme that is pretty straightforward is consumption. How we are willing to consume anything. Ourselves and even others and all for what? Fame.. Power..Beauty? Also the necrophilia scene may have hinted at what it might be like to have sex with someone who is quite literally dead inside.
The Neon Demon felt like watching Suspiria directed by Gaspar Noe. Besides that, the whole trend nowadays of critiquing a movie for being style before substance is getting a bit silly. If the filmmakers aim is to bring you an amazing visual experience, and creates a narrative only for that reason, why is that considered a bad thing by so many?
I really liked it. I like all of Refn's movies. You should pick up the Pusher trilogy, or find some way to watch them. They felt like the most realistic crime movies ive ever seen. Anyway, back to Neon Demon. I got an Elizabeth Bathory vibe from the Ruby character especially after she was bathing in the blood. The score, cinematography and acting is all fantastic. But what I really liked about it is how it turns the typical girl unraveling story on its head. We think its about Jessie, then we think its about Ruby, then the other two girls (forgetting there names) its really fucking cool.
I thought it was weird but absolutely didn't think it was style over substance. I also want to see it again, maybe like 2 more times if not more even. I have a tendency to overthink just about everything and this film gave me a lot to work off of, so I loved it. But yeah, I totally was thinking about witches when the 3rd act came about. But then I felt more like they were just monsters. Basically I have more to say about this film that I should put into a comment simply because it's too long.
I love Valhalla Rising T_T snif snif. This one was great too. He is the Cormac McCarty of Hollywood directors. Cool witch theory I never though about it, made sense. I think if the ending had been more announced you wouldn't have the movie stuck in your head for two days xD
I love Drive and loathed Only God Forgives. This one is going to make or break him as a director for me. I'm guessing it'll be visually stunning if nothing else.
Regarding your question: Contrary to other directors NWR is fairly vocal when it comes to interpretation. He has said in an interview that you are basically right in your assumptions regarding the witch/literal interpretation of the 3rd act. Specifically he has mentioned that Jena Malone's character is probably 300 years old and Jesse is just one in a long line of sacrifices that give her back her youth and lets her "bleed" again like a young girl.
Oh, interesting! What interview did he say this in? I was watched a bunch of them, but I don't think I remember hims saying this (didn't watch all of them, obviously lol)
I got a felling that Keanu character didn't kill that girl in the room ,but Ruby did. She didn't see him killing her she just dream it. Maybe Ruby projected that dream ( if she is a witch than she has some powers ) so that she thinks that he killed her, so she can come to live at her house. She manipulated her all this time. This movie is so confusing.
Beauty is in the "eye" of the beholder. Or at least the eyeball.....
Ha
Hehe, indeed.......
The eye parallels the observation of the full moon which is heavily connected to the menstrual cycle of women every month as well as the seeing eye of judgment.
I thought this movie was absolutely brilliant! (and sick)
The whole "witch" thing actually seems somewhat plausible. I just watched it earlier tonight and I think I'm becoming obsessed with it. This is actually my first Refn film and I'm really glad I saw it. 9/10 for me.
LordJaeger6277 Bronson and Valhalla Rising are on Netflix streaming if you want more Refn. Only God Forgives is probably his best looking movie.
Hollywood is an evil cult
I thoroughly enjoyed this film.
Great review, to me the third act was slightly foreshadowed earlier in the movie when *SPOILERS* Sarah started sucking the blood out of Jesses hand after the casting. But it was one of those moments where you don't realise that it was a hint until the pay off happens.
Francis Viola not just that but also the mountain lion scene where it's ripping apart something and the landlord tells jesse that it's her fault for letting the lion in is (I think ) a foreshadowing to how she was ripped apart ,by the model,because she had once let in "the neon demon " and was then consumed by it . Literally .
I completely agree about the feeling of withces/coven/dark fairy tale. The whole movie reminded me so much of Suspiria(1977) I am glad I was not the only to catch that vibe. I loved Neon Demon.
This movie blows lol.
I cried while watching this movie because of how beautiful it was
ARIEL I did almost, too :D
Winding Refn is the visual master
Very much enjoyed this review. Three thoughts (spoilers obviously)-- first, the fact that he mostly shoots his movies chronologically so that they can change from the original idea in the course of filming accounts for *some* of the shifts in the film. Apparently the metaphysical nature of the last act was a rewrite that came about once he was blown away by Jena Malone. They did the morgue scene early and out of order and once he saw her in action he was like "Okay, we really have something here."
Second, the photographer seems in his way to be a kind of rival sorceror to the coven, needing to feed on that same special *something* that they do (albeit in a different fashion), and zeroing in on Jesse as early as they do. It also accounts for Ruby's warning to Jesse not to be alone with the photographer, which Jesse initially misinterprets and which Ruby clarifies has nothing to do with him being some kind of sexual threat.
Third, her being a virgin is obviously very significant, and that being the case, I think it casts an interesting light on Ruby's overwhelming sexual desire for Jesse: if Jesse had given in to Ruby, would it have saved her life (as she would no longer have been a virgin sacrifice)? I guess what I'm coming away with is, was Jesse's fate always sealed from the start, or was it only sealed once she rejected Ruby? Ruby clearly gets something different from the sacrifice than the other two.
I saw The Neon Demon four days ago, and it definitely leaves a lasting impression. It was not perfect by any means, but worth seeing. On the other hand, your review was absolutely perfect; insightful, nuanced. Nicely done! I am truly impressed!
Thank you so much!
Yeah, this is definitely one that stays with you. I saw it almost a week ago and I can't wait to watch it again. I like the "witch's coven" interpretation too.
You're a very intelligent and beautiful woman! I'm glad I found you, you just earned a subscriber. :)
Thank you :) Welcome to my channel!
Valhalla Rising is easily my favorite Refn film lol
For me, besides TND, is Only god forgives and then Valhalla Rising.
Mine too.
I think you're right that there is some supernatural element to Ruby and the two models she's friends with. I thought it was very unusual that Ruby was always around, or even stalking Jesse. I even suspect that she was the animal that got inside her motel room.
If the vampire/witch interpretation was taken literally, could the cougar in Jesse's room have been one of the women (Ruby, Abbey or Gigi)?
Saw the movie today and was enchanted and disturbed. The film raises questions about style vs. substance and, in my opinion, favors style. I liked the reference to Lolita about half way through the film, since Lolita, like the Neon Demon, explores the relationship between aesthetics and morality/substance.
Overall, great but not perfect movie. If you can take it as it is, it's an interesting experience.
Really loved your insight during the spoiler section.
Thank you!
+Impression Blend I have read an earlier version of the script, which is much more clearer than what we see in the film. First of all, Ruby is a witch. There was a scene, in which Jesse goes to her actual flat and she has a bunch of sorcery books. And another scene (after the blood bath) in which it is made clear that Ruby was trespassing the mansion (the owners were on vacation) and Jessie's old Buick is actually featured and not only mentioned like in the film.
I see the look of Ruby in her bath everytime I close my eyes. Haunting. Deeply haunting. And the music. Damn. It's like falling in love. With a movie ? Waow. Crzay moment. o__O
Under the skin anyone?
madhukollu pacing
I cant wait to see this. Bronson, Only God Forgives, and Drive are great films. Great video!
Thank you!
Great job Marianna keep it up you are great movie reviewer you deserve more subscribers
Aww, thank you!
Mariana dont apologize for the rating i also enjoyed the movie but enjoyed more your review :)
Thanks :) Oh, I'm not sorry for the rating, just making sure people focus on the actual review.
I live in Alaska so I finally just watched this. I'm glad you did a review of this. I found Neon Demon to be a fairy tale. From the first moment Jenna Malone showed up I felt she was circling around Elle Fanning to steal something from her. The party scene directly after the strange David Lynchian (lot's of Lynch here) bathroom discussion, where the pulsing music and strobe effects take over, spelled everything out. Then that vibe subsides a bit. But it sets the tone. I agree with you. Not a perfect film but quite memorable and a surprising performance from Elle. And one of a handful of films that play with the borderland between beauty and horror. A couple of my other favorites are both French: Les Yeux Sans Visage (Eyes Without A Face) and Livide (Livid). You might scare these up. Thanks again for the thoughtful review Mariana.
This movie much like the runway scene and the actual neon demon enters your mind and stays there. I have been constantly thinking about it for the last three days. What surprised me the most was how much I liked Abbey Lee's performance. She steals every scene she's in. All the performances were good but I didn't expect it from her. It did feel like the women were a coven but not really witches. More like obsessed selfish monsters like in the movie Ravenous.
It definitely plants that neon demon in your mind, I don't think I could ever forget this movie :)
The Neon Demon is amazing ...Beautiful horror... and I agree with you on the Soundtrack. I have heard a few people talk about the witch angle. Some people even think that the cougar/mountain lion is a shape shifting witch. I also can see some similarities to It Follows, in tone and soundtrack. Great review...thx
Thanks! I like the shape-shifting theory as well, it makes sense with the witch angle.
The neon demon is an interesting film, that among other things provides a contemporary experience to the occult.
people dont like movies that dont beat you over the head with exposition. The Neon Demon was lit asf.
This is a film that's unforgettable. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. The visuals are so striking. It was almost like a dark fairy tale (muck like Drive). Sure, it was a bit unsettling and very weird, but those are arguably the prime reasons I can't stop thinking about it. The themes are relevant. I think the film speaks on vanity and self indulgence in an intriguing way.
I enjoyed this film. I think Refn is hit or miss with critics but he's undeniably talented. I loved Bronson, Drive and the Pusher series. Neon Demon has some great performances too, particularly from Jena Malone who stole the show for me. I definitely want to see this again. It'll be a cult classic for sure.
+Rob Wells walhalla rising is his best!!!
I absolutely agree - you can love or hate his films, but it's undeniable he is a talented director with a unique vision. I bet a few decades later people will be studying this guy at film schools.
So far, this is the best review of this film I've seen so far. And I've been stuck in that neon trance since I've seen it. However, I think I had six anxiety attacks during the film. Either through the haunting music and atmosphere or a thrilling scene.
Thank you :)
It did not remind me of a ritual performed by a coven of witches. It reminded me of the accounts of Erzebet Bathory. What convinced me of this was Ruby in the tub with the water with the blood of Jesse in it, and the two other girls covered in the blood of Jesse whom are also bathing, but in a shower. Also, the three girls consumed the flesh of Jesse. Erzebet Bathory was reputed to bathe in the blood of 600 young virgin girls, and was also reputed to have engaged in some cannibalism of the these young girls. Bathory did this because she thought bathing in the blood of a young virgin girl would give her more youth and beauty. Also, another individual suggested the eye at the end was an allusion to "The Tell-Tale Heart" -- not just a reference to the statement made by Jesse about the Moon being an eye -- for two reasons. First, the eye of the victim in "The Tell-Tale Heart" was the reason why the murderer murdered the victim, as the murderer thought the eye was producing an effect of evil upon the murderer. Second, the eye in that scene in "The Neon Demon" could symbolize the guilt that Gigi had for the act of murder and cannibalism she participated upon Jesse; just as how the sound of a beating heart in the mind of the murderer from "The Tell-Tale Heart" was a symbol of the guilt he experienced from the act of murder and dismemberment of the body of the victim at the end of the story.
yes. Refn actually said the movie was inspired by Bathory. In fact when I saw Ruby in the tub I immediately thought of her as Bathory. Bathory was a Countess and she's in that big mansion.. Makes sense.
Giiiirl I finally found someone speaking about the witch stuff!! I have the exactly same vision about the whole ritual thing that happens with the virgin blood and i also think that this is why we see triangles all the time, it may be a simbology to witchcraft and there's one for which girl
Witch themes are DEFINITELY present!
Thank you for the perfectly articulated review, just top notch "broadcasting", cheers
Oh my gosh, I was the same way! Watched it last night and can't stop thinking about it. And yes, I listened to the soundtrack all day at work on Spotify and then bought it on iTunes when I came home! There are so many times I've had a song stuck in my head, this might be the first time I ever had a movie stuck in my head.
There was definitely a witches coven vibe, especially with the moon and blood imgery. The three antagonists (Ruby, Sarah and Gigi, definitely form a triumvirate, fitting for the triangles that surround Jesse in every major moment of change for her character, including her moments in the pool looking up. ,
To add to the coven vibe, someone also pointed out how many times the triangle symbol is used in the movie, which is definitely an important symbol in witchcraft. I feel like the blood and the moon scene (this may be too literal, but hey I'm trying to make sense of it here) could be Ruby getting her youth back after killing Jesse - I guess it was mentioned in one of the interviews that her character may actually be 300 years old.
I loved it! I also can't stop thinking about it. Not much phases me in this genre it got my attention, it was disturbing, intriguing and unsettling. It will definitely become a cult classic! I also rated it 4/5 stars.
This was definitely one of my most anticipated movies of 2016 and didn't get a chance to see it in theaters because it was such a limited release. I rented the other night on iTunes because I just could not wait one more week for the blu ray release aaaaand I absolutely LOOOVED it! And this is actually the first film of Nicholas Winding Refn's that I've seen.
I'm so glad you loved it! Definitely check out _Drive_ and _Bronson_ - Refn is a very interesting director, I'm always excited about his films coming out.
I'm not a Refn fan. I didn't appreciate even Drive. But somehow I thought I'd like Neon Demon. I just saw it today at an early afternoon, sparsely attended showing which was a perfect atmosphere to view it.
Marianna, this is one of your best reviews and I wasn't surprised to find out you liked it. Pacing and the jarring changes the story goes through will be a problem for most but I loved it. I agree that there is a Grimm's fairy-tale vibe going on. The visuals and score worked to add to the beauty and weirdness of the film. Elle Fanning, and the three weird "sisters" were excellent. Thanks
Thank you! There was only one person other than me at the showing I went to, and I agree , it just adds to the atmosphere. If anything, that made everything even creepier haha
I'm subscribing because you got me so into your review that I felt the need to comment below in my mother language 👏🏽 because of the excitement 😁 eventhough I know no one would ever understand it 👶🏽
Thank you so much! Welcome to my channel :)
Neon Demon was definitely, as you mentioned, an experience. I need to see it a second time to truly decide on whether I love it or hate it. This film, like most of Refn's films, brooks no middle ground. One either loves them or hates them. I think the film is a full-blown horror film. It's just a slow burn that leads up to that third act.
Whether he was subconsciously channeling his inner Jean Rollin and Dario Argento, but Neon Demon was like REfn's riff on the 70's and 80's Italian giallo. From the use of garish color that reminded me of Suspiria and the dream-like sequences that was Jean Rollin at the height of his filmmaking skills.
I think everyone should see Neon Demon. They'll either love it or hate it, but one thing they won't be is bored or disinterested. This film will definitely pull a reaction of one form or another.
I totally agree, after everything that happens in the third act it definitely seems like a slow-burn horror film. It just comes at you out of nowhere, which is actually pretty brilliant.
I can't stop looking at your eyeshadow! What are you wearing, it's gorgeous!😍
Aww thank you! It's been a while, so I'm not 100% sure, but I think all of the shadows I used I from Urban Decay Naked2 palette.
I also had a tough time rating this one. I ended up giving it a B+, but it was also a film on which the minute it ended, I wanted to see it again.
I saw Jesse as a lost, innocent lamb in a city of hungry wolves. But I also understand the witches coven interpretation, and, the more I think about it, the more I think Refn was mostly going for that aspect.
Thanks for your spot on review..
In both "Enemy", "Under the skin" and this beauty "The Neon Demon", the directors choose to use these parallel explanatory clips of wonderful weirdness.. Beautifully painfull to watch..
Refn also seems to use "horror" in sounds and lighting as an xtra protagonist all by itself and it ads a layer in the story which inspires to deeper thinking, which continues for days in some of us..
I love that xtra dimension so much I gladly accepts the pacing issues and weird "goreporn".. Oh yeah and the soundtrack!!
Thanks for watching! Funny you bring up _Enemy_ - it's my favorite Denis Villeneuve film, and just generally one of my favorite movies.
Impression Blend,me to. I totally agree. DV's Enemy is amazing and has that long lingering effect to.. Even after watching it numerous times.. Any recommendations in that genre?
Love your reviews.. B
I'm intrigued. I will go see it.
they sacrificed a virgin for Sarah, that is the plot. they gold painted Jess like they do with animals in ancient tribes. the movie was not style over substance, i mean, it actually had a very profound substance to it, if the substance here was the style lmao - actually it has David Lynch and Kubrick kinda vibe to it which I think this movie is one of the best movies ive seen so far.
I liked it, you can take it as either a disturbing LA crime story involving models or a complex symbolic representation of ideals and non physical qualities using the characters and plot.
I love those type of films when it makes a film makes a 180 and throws you off. Kind of like Dusk till dawn, The watch, The Worlds end, and Audition. I will definitely look for this film.
Yup! It's definitely one of THOSE :)
I had the same feeling you had after seeing the Neon Demon. Every time I think about I just love it more. This movie has my favorite original score and cinematography of 2016 so far. Also I like how the story makes you think as well. This a movie that should be analyzed and discussed to find out what this movie is going for. I hope to see this again soon before it leaves theaters. Plus it's an Amazon studios movie which will go to Amazon prime before it comes out on bluray which I know I'll pick up day one.
I love how divisive this movie is, to be honest. Haven't seen anyone with a "middle of the road" opinion on this yet. What an experience! Can't wait to see it again :)
same here. even the people that hated this movie, i understand what they're coming from. I hope to see this again before it leaves theaters.
nice background you got there marianna!
Just watched it a few weeks ago. I absolutely saw the witches coven aspect from the restroom scene near the beginning (which was quite Lynchian). They seemed to be sizing her up. The bondage dance club scene immediately after has an incantory quality as well.
And here's what's really interesting, there seems to be a new wave of highly stylized films coming out. It's almost a movement. Think Under The Skin, Behind The Black Rainbow, The Love Witch, Lords of Salem, That Poppy videos, etc. all of these purposely jump off of the reality train to create dream visions more than coherent logic. I think these films are a (usually) low budget creative reactions to the overly efficient cinema of the present, where everyone seems to be scripting things out of a screenplay manual. I suspect this hyperstylization will grow more. Good review here Mariana, glad I got back to it.
Thank you! The highly stylized movies are almost a sub-genre of their own at this point, but I think they can be VERY hit or miss, and they're definitely divisive for the audiences. Personally, I enjoy a visually-stunning film, but there has to be something behind the style-I'm there for the story and themes over anything else.
Agreed. (Hey have you ever watched Tarkovsky?)
Yes, grew up on his movies.
That explains a few things!
Yes, although Refn might say take it literally or whatever, he's definitely leading you to think otherwise. I didn't care for Valhalla either. But The Neon Demon is definitely going to get a polarizing reaction. I've read some that hated it. As far as ratings, I guess that's why Siskel & Ebert just went thumbs up (go see it) or down (don't). I gave it a four starts too. Maybe 3.5, but I had to round it up to 4 for the cinematography alone, and going against the Hollywood norm and formula. Probably make it to my Top Ten of 2016.
Refn mentioned in interviews that he wants to make movies that get polarizing reactions - he doesn't want to make "safe" movies. I can definitely respect that and the way he sticks to his vision.
You are really good reviewing things! Im really exciting to watch this movie after seen your video :)
Thank you!
It sounds and looks very interesting but I don't think it's a movie for me, at least not right now ;). Great review and even better editing :D Have a nice day!
Thank you so much! :)
I loved it. LOVED the metaphorical vibe it reminds me of Pink Floyd's: The Wall in terms of metaphors that jump if that makes sense.
(Minor spoilers)
I completely agree with the witch coven thing. I never thought of it that way. It reminded me of the story of Bloody Mary, who bathed in the blood of virgins to steal their beauty. I'm actually going to see this film for the third time, so I'll watch it again with that mindset.
That's actually a really good example too! What did you think after the third viewing?
Definitely something witchy going on, but I'm not sure about a coven. Jena Malone's character seems to have done this sort of things before, but the other two girls seem to be totally out of their element. The rose bushes kinda tip me off to that as well. They're scattered around the home, and she seems to be planting another in the shallow grave she lays in right after killing Jessie. Plus I read an interview where Jena Malone herself said "She's like 300 years old and this is like the 80th girl she's done this too".
The third act was very horror like for sure. It was a jarring shift in tone. But, I wasn't suprisied entirely because the film was already in incredibly strange territory in the first two acts. When I first experienced the 3rd act, I was definitely thinking "witches" lol.
Really? I was pretty surprised, it definitely caught me off guard. I should have known better though, this is Refn we're talking about lol
Interesting. Loved Drive, Valhalla Rising and Only God Forgives. Can't wait to see this one.
For my money, he's the most exciting director currently working.
Great review. I have that weird feeling where I'm so excited for this movie that it's probably my most anticipated of this year now, and yet because of my reactions to NWR's previous films, I'm worried I'll hate it ;) ha ha. I really didn't like Only God Forgives at all, but at the same time I absolutely love Drive and Bronson. I thought his style was executed to near perfection in Drive. It just felt so intricate and precise. Not a single shot or line of dialogue was without purpose in that film :) He's a hit and miss director for me too, but his good films are absolutely outstanding. Can't wait to discuss this movie more after I've seen it :) I really don't know if I like Drive or Bronson the most, both so good :)
Thank you! I hope you get to see this one soon, and it's definitely an experience. Don't worry though, I wouldn't was it's similar to _Only God Forgives_ - the pacing in that one was killing me lol
I don't know if you've seen the movie The Craft from '96 but the third act definitely reminded me as that.
I've really been debating going out to watch this movie, but I've always trusted your reviews so I'll more than likely be seeing it within the next couple of days. Thanks as always for putting out honest reviews ^.^
Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoy the movie, it's definitely an interesting one :)
I've been wanting to watch this movie ever since I saw the trailers. Hopefully I'll see it before it comes out on DVD.
Totally worth experiencing on the big screen in a dark theatre ;)
I know...but I don't know when I'll ever have time to go. Stupid kids ;) just kidding teehee.
GOD I'M SO CURIOUS TO SEE THIS!!! But it's not in any theater near me cuz the strict censoring would probably render the movie 5 seconds long! GOD! I NEED TO SEE THIS!
I'm sure they'll release it on VoD soon, doesn't seem like it stayed in theatres for long.
Thank you for explaining so well why you loved this movie. I have the same feelings about it ;)
Thanks for watching :)
I too enjoyed this movie, also have the soundtrack on my phone. Great thoughts on the third act, never thought of it that way myself but it definitely fits.
I liked this film too. It was amazing in all of its devious glory. Just like you, I also brought the soundtrack.
The soundtrack is perfection, can't stop listening to it.
I really disliked this one. However, I would like to recommend *Beyond the Black Rainbow* (2010) if you have not seen it already. It's very visually driven and "artsy", but I found it fascinating and intoxicating. You should definitely check it out!
I watched the movie because I heard so many people rave about it... to answer your question, I don't know if this was some sort of witches coven because it definitely seemed like the girl at the end hadn't done what she did with the other girls to Jessie..
pacing... I would say slow.. and I'm all for exposition, but there wasn't much of that going into the 3rd act.. there was no hint that the make up artist and the 2 models were into that together.. yes there is the scene when Jess cuts her self that could hint at it.. but it was disconnected from the other girls.. and Jena Malone is a make up artist... and yeah a little obsessed with death... but that scene seemed like she was just imaging a living Jess.. not a dead one. The last 10 minutes are intense.. when the one girl gets sick because I knew what was going to happen... and after it did.. I knew that the next thing would happen, because the other model was slowly reaching for it... I could buy that this was like their first time doing this... but there was no hint they were collaborating together.. and Jena just being mad that Jess rejected her advances seems a bit weak for her to get involved...
It catches me so off guard when you curse idk why lol but great review! I love Refn's films but unfortunately I have to wait to see this one since it's not playing anywhere near me :(
Haha thanks :) I hope you can see the movie soon!
New background! Awesome; I might see this now.. I liked but didn't love Drive and haven't liked any of his other ones
Really? I'm surprised. Have you seen _Bronson_?
***** Hardy was amazing in it and that was pretty much it. I saw it a couple years back so I might need to give it a re-watch. Should I go see this film?
Kyle Gaunt Reviews Pffft I don't know, if you don't like Refn's style - maybe not? But I think there is so much to analyze in his movies, people are going to be studying him in film schools eventually, I guarantee.
REALLY need to see this film, great review and I skipped that spoiler section. Idk what to expect. Also which film did you like more from him, Drive or Bronson? I love Bronson more because of Tom Hardy's performance alone.
I like Bronson more as well. They're both really great, Drive is a little more accessible.
It's been a while since I watched _Drive_, so I'm tempted to say _Bronson_ because it's fresher in my mind... I'll have to get back to you on this :) Tom Hardy is outstanding in that film though!
Suspiria?
More like Black Swan meets Suspiria
Maybe Black Swan meets Suspiria meets Beyond the Black Rainbow?
+Taylor Knight it's nothing like Black Swan >:(
Miss X actually it IS like Black Swan tb rihonest
It's like Black Swan meets Suspiria meets The Shining but with lots of glitter sprinkled on top.
The soundtrack to this film is absolutely amazing.
Definitely!
I didn't get a witchy feel from it (of course, I'm active in occult groups, so Winding & I might have different ideas about things). However, those are some good points (the moon, etc). I think it _was_ style above substance, but considering the subject matter it was almost certainly intentional (and the correct way to go with it). I was mostly just getting bored because nothing was happening but captivated enough by the beautiful cinematography that when the third act hit, it hit HARD.
I know what you mean! I wish the pacing was a bit more even, because the third act was insane and I loved that.
I don't know, in any other film I might agree but in this case, I think the pacing was exactly what it needed to be. Personally, the pacing is reminiscent of a relationship I once had with with a model:
1st Act = Getting hooked-in by the beauty.
2nd Act = It starts looking-like beauty is the only thing the film has going for it. One questions whether its worth continuing to watch a film for the sake of beauty alone and may even regret having started watching the film.
3rd Act = The ending is pure insanity.
I think this is also intended to reflect how the audience is supposed to feel about the lead character while watching it: really interesting in the beginning, boring but not quite annoying in the middle, and really interesting in the end.
That isn't to say that the film _didn't_ have anything other than beauty going for it, just that all the substance didn't become clear until the 3rd act (although it had been there all along). Its actually a very intelligent film trying to present itself as a very superficial film - which would ruin almost any other film but is absolutely perfect here.
The film is criticizing 21st Century cinema audiences for being superficial, fickle, and not recognizing a good thing until its over. The lead character is the film itself and the other characters (of which there are only a few) are caricatures of the audience. Those who stick with the movie all the way to the end (even if they had some doubts midway through) are rewarded, and those who are bored with it or only like it for the imagery alone are mocked by the film itself.
I'm going to have to watch it again and pay closer attention to the witchy symbolism described in yor review.
To put it in simpler terms: the whole thing is a mirror
Reeeeeeally interested in seeing this!!
Absolutely getting the witch reference. It even lines up with pagan rituals. Pretty intense.
I'm really digging your videos, Marianna! Subbed!
Thank you! Welcome to my channel :)
People can be monsters while looking at their best.
Loved Drive and Only God Forgives so this was no different. Need to check Valhalla Rising though haha.
Well you've got me interested here with how you've described it, plus your taste (do I really need to praise more here lol)
I am pretty sure you're either going to love this or absolutely HATE it :)
I took my friends to see this movie and they got mad at me because they hated it, but i loved it lol.
HAHA oh no! I'm glad you loved it though :)
Fascinating! Your reviews, as always aid in my decisions to watch a movie or not. I have to say as well, that your language surprised the fuck out of me. I have to see it on that alone.
Thank you :) I hope you like it!
Your background is so cute!!!
Thanks :)
Thanks for another great review :)
Definitely want to see this....
Thanks for watching!
I heard this film was booed at a film festival earlier this year. Hmm.. I'm curious to watch this movie because of how you say it turns into some weird shit towards the end. I'll catch it when it comes online.
Btw, fancy background. Looks like you're about to show off your modeling skills. Work it girl!! *snaps fingers*
Haha thanks! Decided to use this background because it felt appropriate for this movie :) Refn always gets very polarizing reactions at festivals, and he even said that's the feedback he likes - he doesn't want to make movies everyone loves because he thinks that's too safe, he wants to divide audiences.
Spoilers ahead.
I enjoyed the movie, but not really enough to own a copy. It just isn't something I can show to my friends, they wouldn't appreciate the color and composition of scenes. As you said, I imagine this film will sail over a lot of peoples heads, it isn't the most accessible picture for main stream audiences. However, I found the many elements of foreshadowing to be very clever, and the beauty of some shots made me pause the movie just to admire them. Really great stuff, and if you can enjoy a film from that element alone, you'll like this one. As far as the witch coven goes, I got a sense of that as well. Though I took them to be LITERAL demons-- the cannibalism drives this home for me. Especially in the case of Ruby and Sarah, who seemed to have some magical elements to them. They did some impossible things, and I find it hard to see that as only symbolism. I don't know, maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part. But that's not to say the title isn't also metaphorical. I believe it's very obvious to see that the "neon demon" is the fashion industry itself.
On a side note, the cougar scene really bothered me. Just because I'm nitpicky and I know they used tiger sounds for the mountain lion's roar. That sort of a pet peeve of mine. Oh, and I'm glad to see that Charles Baker is still getting work, even if it is just a bit part. I was worried his career would be ruined by Breaking Bad.
awsome so looking forward to watching it! great review!
Thanks!
If Ms Marianna says this (01:36) then you know it must be crazy! :D
Haha oh, it IS!
This is just a terrific film and your review is fantastic. I have not been able to get this film out of my head. I found it truly incredible. From the hypnotic score to the almost pornographic cinematography this was an experience. I really want to see it again.
Thank you so much! I'm still thinking about it, I can't believe how much it stuck with me. Definitely want to see it again as well!
I thought this movie would have the cannibalism bit it won't . Did u saw that scene in your theatre ? ( Your review was great )
Which is ironic because I saw a recent interview with Refn where he says while he enjoys his creative freedom, he'd love to direct a big budget Hollywood blockbuster. Which, if I were to pick one director who's films are polarizing and flat out different, it's NWR. I don't think I'd ever recommend one of his films, especially this one because 99% of people wouldn't get it. But you won't see anything like this all year. You won't hear a score like this all year and won't see cinematography like this all year. Like I said good or bad, that's admirable. Okay I'm done now!!
+Impression Blend With regard to your witches' coven impression, I think you are on the right track, but they impressed me as rabid wolves, devouring anything they wanted, especially anything, or anyone, that got in their way. I think this idea ties back to the wild cat they find in her motel room --a feral animal that represents danger and death. Anyway, that was my take.
That being said, I didn't like this movie that much. It was okay, but not great. It definitely didn't stay with me or have me thinking about it later in a "haunted" sort of way. Even though I liked Only God Forgives quite a bit, I found Refn's shocking scenes in this one, and there are two in particular involving Ruby, that are just way too contrived. You can practically see Refn patting himself on the back for "daring" to do them....and I think Refn intended my reaction to be much, much stronger than it was. I actually think it all falls a bit flat because those scene's sole purpose is to shock/disturb/offend. It was a bit too self-conscious and I just didn't buy it. You could have removed those scenes and lost nothing. They serve no other purpose other than Refn getting off at your shock and incredulity. (You can find interviews with Refn going on about how "the reaction" is everything and in artistic terms, "why else are we even here?" I enjoy the guy's films but he's definitely more than a little impressed with himself.) Anyway, I think Drive and Forgives are much, much stronger films.
As an aside, for some reason the picture quality here in your video is much better than what I saw when I watched the film itself on Amazon Video (their streaming service). It was supposed to have been in HD but your clips look much better. I had no interest in seeing the movie again, but I might now if I could rent it from a source that looks better.
Amazon automatically determines whether or not to play the movie in HD quality, based on your internet connection, and sadly there isn't a way to manually tell it to load HD regardless. I just used the trailers for my video though.
When you stream on amazon, you have to pay more for the HD version, although I watched it for free through Prime. Anyway, HD streaming content never looks as good as Blu because of bandwidth issues. The interesting thing with your video in my case is it's streaming vs. streaming. It all boils down to the fact that, obviously, Amazon HD is clearly not stellar quality.
Hi, I was just wondering where you got your footage of the movie for your video? I have searched and there are scenes in your review that are new to me. The Neon Demon by the looks of it won't be showing where I live and I would really like to watch the whole movie as I love Nicolas Winding Refn's movies and also Jena Malone. Also btw I love your channel!
Thanks
Thank you! The footage is just from the trailers :)
***** Ok thanks! Cant wait to see your channel grow! :D
The movie is subjective with its metaphors and deeper meanings for sure. However I think the one theme that is pretty straightforward is consumption. How we are willing to consume anything. Ourselves and even others and all for what? Fame.. Power..Beauty? Also the necrophilia scene may have hinted at what it might be like to have sex with someone who is quite literally dead inside.
The Neon Demon felt like watching Suspiria directed by Gaspar Noe. Besides that, the whole trend nowadays of critiquing a movie for being style before substance is getting a bit silly. If the filmmakers aim is to bring you an amazing visual experience, and creates a narrative only for that reason, why is that considered a bad thing by so many?
oh, and the scene near the ending, with the last girl doing what she did was a bit predictable: we saw the same similar thing done in Nightcrawler.
Your pretty and awesome , love your reviews you deserve more subs!
Thank you!
I really liked it. I like all of Refn's movies. You should pick up the Pusher trilogy, or find some way to watch them. They felt like the most realistic crime movies ive ever seen.
Anyway, back to Neon Demon. I got an Elizabeth Bathory vibe from the Ruby character especially after she was bathing in the blood. The score, cinematography and acting is all fantastic. But what I really liked about it is how it turns the typical girl unraveling story on its head. We think its about Jessie, then we think its about Ruby, then the other two girls (forgetting there names) its really fucking cool.
I actually found the first two _Pusher_ movies on Amazon Prime, so I'll check them out for sure!
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lol of course they would go on there after I already bought the trilogy.the way it goes.
Infametheus Well, I still can't find the third one :)
It was erm, one of the strangest films I have ever seen.It reminded me so much of BLACK SWAN and SISPIRIA
It definitely has some of those _Black Swan_ vibes!
The script reveals a lot more and makes the final cut lackluster. But I really enjoyed the film.
I thought it was weird but absolutely didn't think it was style over substance. I also want to see it again, maybe like 2 more times if not more even. I have a tendency to overthink just about everything and this film gave me a lot to work off of, so I loved it. But yeah, I totally was thinking about witches when the 3rd act came about. But then I felt more like they were just monsters. Basically I have more to say about this film that I should put into a comment simply because it's too long.
I think this is the perfect film for someone who loves to analyze what they just watched! I need to see it again as well :)
I love Valhalla Rising T_T snif snif. This one was great too. He is the Cormac McCarty of Hollywood directors.
Cool witch theory I never though about it, made sense.
I think if the ending had been more announced you wouldn't have the movie stuck in your head for two days xD
Probably! Movies that tie the story up in a nice little bow rarely keep you thinking about them :)
I hated Valhalla Rising!! (throws a Will Farrel fit) HATED IT! Not even if there's a FIRE!
Liked this movie a lot tho
I love Drive and loathed Only God Forgives. This one is going to make or break him as a director for me. I'm guessing it'll be visually stunning if nothing else.
Oh, it's definitely visually stunning!
Regarding your question:
Contrary to other directors NWR is fairly vocal when it comes to interpretation. He has said in an interview that you are basically right in your assumptions regarding the witch/literal interpretation of the 3rd act. Specifically he has mentioned that Jena Malone's character is probably 300 years old and Jesse is just one in a long line of sacrifices that give her back her youth and lets her "bleed" again like a young girl.
Oh, interesting! What interview did he say this in? I was watched a bunch of them, but I don't think I remember hims saying this (didn't watch all of them, obviously lol)
www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/inside-the-years-most-shocking-movie-ending?.jbnPpl7k#.mu4e4WnD
arnemyggen Thanks!
Your welcome - and great review ofc (forgot that one)
I got a felling that Keanu character didn't kill that girl in the room ,but Ruby did. She didn't see him killing her she just dream it. Maybe Ruby projected that dream ( if she is a witch than she has some powers ) so that she thinks that he killed her, so she can come to live at her house. She manipulated her all this time. This movie is so confusing.
she fled her into another realm to protect herself from svere psychological harm. it is a subconcious thing. she js not a witch.