Portugal and Spain: similar or different?
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Planning a move to either Spain or Portugal? In this video I look at both countries and see if they have anything in common or if they are different. The topics mentioned are intro
00:00 introduction
00:41 cost of living
03:30 security
06:00 getting around
08:00 economic stability
09:47 cultural aspects
12:05 and the people
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I’m Australian and I’m going to live in Portugal hopefully very soon. I did go this year to stay but ended up coming back to Sydney as my father is sick. Love Portugal 🇵🇹
@@meilong2338, you don`t get it!? Try reading, it will help you stop your sourness.
@@meilong2338 a inveja mata, vai-te tratar...
@@meilong2338 Poor country??? shut up you are so ignorant, you know nothing about history, go to a children's school and grow up. Stupid commentary.
@@meilong2338 If England is so fucking good then why are there so many English retirees living in Portugal and Spain?
@@meilong2338 funny to hear that when u dont even have sun
I think the best thing about this video is how unbiased it is. Congratulations and regards from a Portuguese subscriber
I'm Spanish and had the opportunity to stay in Portugal over a month. Lovely place with lovely people that help you if you ask for it. Totally underrated food wise and quality in general. I feel like at home there. Very similar food and lifestyle to Spain. We portuguese and Spanish are related in many ways and I feel they are brothers.
🤫 dont say it
I have lived here for the past 3 years...originally from the U.S. Portugal is fantastic! Traveled all over the country as well as the Acores...this country packs a powerful punch in a small package...Mountains, rivers, lakes and beaches of course islands...the wages are too low here i.m.h.o. ...for the success it is having...as far as cost of living coming from middle America...it's cheap all across the board...one of the safest countries I have ever lived in period! The education system here is excellent...In my travels I have found the Portuguese to be multilingual including French, English,Spanish as well as languages from the former Colonies; Goa, Macao, Mozambique, Angola And Cape Verde etc...for me the transportation is the beauty of living here...I don't need a car...Public transportation is sufficient and inexpensive...I Love Portugal!
Glad u are enjoying it my friend u are more then welcome here
@@jblondon1327, sour much!? You`re crying all over the comment section. Get a life dude.
Dickie Larue Cheers man! With those words, you're already one of us. Abraço para ti
@@jblondon1327 Troll Detected please ignore
I lived & worked in Portugal from 2007 to 2017 - and enjoyed every single day of my 10 years there. I'm now back in the UK - but I will go back to Portugal when I retire - and remain there until the end!
Are they speak English?
@@aymanomar4524 They speak Portuguese - so if you live and work there, you have to learn Portuguese. As a tourist, you can use English or Spanish.
Why did you come back? If you don't mind me asking
@@olixz It was work related. Had I been in the catering, or tourism sector - I would have gladly stayed on. But I'm a research scientist - and after my contract finished in Portugal, it was really difficult to find another job there. Just to give you an idea, there are more science/technology companies in Cambridgeshire alone, then the whole of Portugal and Spain put together! Which is a real shame - but that's how it is. But I look forward to my retirement in Portugal.
@@nowhereman5119 That is a shame. A friend of mine has recently moved to Lisbon from the UK to work for Siemens as an engineer but it wasn't easy for him to get a job. I have considered it myself working in IT. I hope you enjoy your new role back in the UK.
In fact, portuguese people are our Iberian brothers!
We think the same of the Spanish! :)
JB London já ouviste portugueses falar mal de Espanha? Ou só viste na net?
JB is a big troll. It's because of people like you that some portuguese folks counterattack and insult the spanish. Quit spreading hate, man! Spain has great things and so has Portugal. This is not a competition. Grow up.
🇵🇹🤜🤛🇪🇸
JB London the truth is that there are some portugueses that still live in the past and think Portugal and Spain have some kind of rivalry (mainly old men think that way). But the big majority has no problem with Spain
I am Spanish, and I love Portugal. I always do to Portugal on holidays instead of going to France or the UK. I've been there so many times, and I have nothing but good things to say about our brothers and sisters next to us. Lovely country, lovely people, and yes, you are spot on about the driving in Portugal. Cheers
We also refer to you guys as nuestros hermanos ! ❤️ 🇵🇹
@Manu_T Gli spagnoli sono tutti dei grandissimi italofobi e per questo evitano di visitarci, e della Grecia sanno poco a parte le isole. Il Portogallo è l'opzione più comoda e "famigliare".
@Manu_T so benissimo la popolarità della Spagna tra gli italiani, ma non vuol dire niente, te lo dico io che con spagnoli ho avuto molte esperienze.
@Manu_T Si vede che la tua esperienza sarà diversa, io conosco molti italiani che vivono in Portogallo e si integrano perfettamente, stessa cosa con i portoghesi che vengono fare l'erasmus in Italia.
@Manu_T Portugal is very different than Spain. Italy and Greece are probably more similar to Spain. Portugal has Fado and waves for surfing. The food is also very different in Portugal and pastries too. Clearly you don't realize how different Portugal is from Spain.
I always say we are not as similar as some people from outside of the iberian peninsula say but we aren't as different as we think we are
@@iamyourtugabro8325 so are castillian and andalusians and aragonese? Idk what are you reffering to maybe you've missread
jtj, are you spanish? I'm portuguese and i totally agree with you.
@@jtj9609 yes he should have included Aragon and the Balearic islands too, independència!
@@iamyourtugabro8325 eu perguntei ao jtj. Tu, eu já sabia, estava implícito no nome 😁
@@iamyourtugabro8325 sabes sim. O que tu escreves e apagas é contigo. O meu fica 😜
I´m Portuguese and know Spain very well also... let me tell you: great review from both countrys.
I am portuguese and can say, finally a great review! Very well informed! I'll recommend to people.
Why?
I’ve been living in Portugal for a year and found this video pretty accurate
What a wonderfully thoughtful, comprehensive and helpful video this is.
Having lived in Spain for years and visited Portugal many times, the long term plan is to settle in Portugal, that sums the place up for me, love it there.
Great video thank you 👍
Adios guiri
Welcome to Portugal, it's diferent.
@@joaoconchilha2231 Very different. Better coffee and food and fado
Tal vez porque soy gallega en Portugal siempre me sentí cómoda y como en mi propia casa los portugueses son gente amable hospitalaria y muy educada y Portugal no tiene ni un pueblo feo
Had stopped watcing your vids for a good while, but am glad to see you're not driving and recording. Love to see the background
You have really made a good vision of both countries.
You are a great ambassador to those looking to live in these countries. Thanks a ton!
I am sure being an ambassador isn't his intent.
It's just business.
Fun fact: the Portuguese have more dogs & cats than children.
true, because children are more expensive :D
Apparently, the same happens in Spain
My son never made me the party my dog does even when I only go out for 10 minutes ahahahahah 😁 that's the reason
U not an animal lover?
I have like 20 cats true.
useful, explanatory and a lot of point shared. appreciate ))
Thanks For Such a Informative Video.
As always Stuart a very unbiased vlog I/ We have visited Spain and Portugal many times escorting campers and caravans their for winter holidays. We have always loved both countries, but found Portuguese more difficult to speak, we retired some time back but will be heading to Spain and Portugal for the winter, all things being equal, keep up the good work look forward to your next vlog,
I'm from Portalegre. Thank you for this vid.
...i live in Galicia (NW Spain) near the portuguesse border. Galician language its father and very similar to portuguese. I know very well Portugal and also Spain. I found really objetive and true your visión....you are right👍😀. From my point the top diference its Spain have several diferent countrys, more diferent landscapes and more diferent culture from north to south. Im in love with portuguesse culture, literature, coocking...(as all galicians)💘.
Galician language its father and very similar to portuguese!!!!!!!!!!! Father of what, are you sure ? I suggest you to take a closer look to the Portuguese language
Nossos irmãos verdadeiros Galiza ❤️❤️❤️❤️ nós devíamos ser um só país 🇵🇹 ama Galiza ❤️
@@etelva Primo a lingua falada na Galiza tem a mesma raiz, mas nao é a mesma. Deuxio, meus Irmaos nao sao, se S
sao seus muito bem. Quanto a ser-mos um pais, espero que nao esteja a incluir os Castelhanos. Um bom dia para si
@@JoseDaSilva-tt5ut Se nao gosta do "father" podo dicir que o galego actual é uma variedade anterior ao português actual, ou q o português e una evoluçao do idioma que se falaba dende o século IV na provincia romana de Gallaecia que comprendía dende cabo Ortegal ata a cidade de Porto. É un feito histórico indiscutibel.
@@JoseDaSilva-tt5ut Non tenha medo 😄. Os galegos conhecemos bem e algún compartimos mesmo o que dis sobre Castela...😄. E moi comentado en Galiza q a fobia antiespanhola portuguesa confunde e dificulta moitas veces o acercamento e simpatía dos galegos por Portugal. Uma grande mágoa...froito de simplezas e esquecementos. Por exemplo o absurdo dos portugueses en falar español en Galicia, mesmo cando nos falamos galego e percebemos o português.
Great video! I would love to see a 2023 update! 🙏🏽
There is another language in Portugal although there are very few people who speak it. It's the "mirandés" spoken in the Northeast of Portugal, in "Miranda do Douro". It is related to the Asturian subgroup, which also includes the traditional languages of León, Zamora and Asturias in Spain where it is almost missing except in Asturias and some small zones of the mountains of León.
Now you make me remember that i have been there , I took a picture of a statue and there was a reference/description in mirandés beneath it
that's completely ridiculous, to talk about a 'second' language in Portugal: that 'language' is a dialect between portuguese and castillian that is spoken in a strip of 20km X 5 km near the spanish frontier...
Our Mirandese brothers
Terra Miranda é terra de Judeus carçao,Vimioso,Celerico,argoselo.. 🕎
הבטיח שלום אדמה ✡️
Jewish blood ❤️
Its "Mirandês".
@@silveriorebelo2920 You can consider it a dialect if you prefer but the truth is that it isn't a mix between Portuguese and Castillian at all, and therefore, it can't be considered a dialect. As I said before it comes from an antique language, almost missing nowadays which it's still spoken in Asturias and small zones of León. If there is some dialect, although nowadays it is considered a language, it is the Portuguese or even the Castillian. The former comes from antique Galician and the latter comes from the antique Astur-Leonese.
Cost of leaving lower in Portugal?
Try heating your house in the winter using either electricity or gas. (or cool it in the summer)
Try traveling by car (it’s not only the gas price, you’ve tolls everywhere as well)
Try buying a car...
Try buying anything else for that matter. You always have a higher base price and a 23% VAT to go along for most products.
Try to go on summer holidays in the south on both countries.
Then come back to RUclips and you’ll surely find yourself having a different story to tell.
So, I suppose you are back to USA for those reasons?
Really enjoy the videos , happy I subscribed . I’ve learnt a lot .
Very interesting and informative,loved it. 👍🍺
Having lived in both countries, I can say that Spain and Portugal are similar as expected, being the two largest countries in the peninsula. However there are some striking differences. Spain is much larger with bigger cities and therefore offering more options to people that want to live in an urban setting and are seeking a more intense cultural life - Madrid, Barcelona, Valencia, Malaga, Bilbao, etc are all quite large cities with a lot to offer.
If you want to live in the countryside then both countries offer comparable options, but IMO Portugal is probably better as it has a very long coast from North to South with a very good network of roads, absolutely inexpensive housing and beautiful landscapes and (in general) with a milder climate than Spain. Portugal is all about the Atlantic coast, wetter, bigger seas and waves, while in Spain you have also the option to be at the Mediterranean coast.
Portugal is a quieter country, people are more reserved, and in general I feel still a more traditional country than Spain. Exception is Lisbon, which in IMO one of the most beautiful cities in the Peninsula with a unique energy. There are of course large differences across Spain in people, a nation of different cultures and with different languages - from Sevilla to San Sebastian there is a world of difference.
If you seek nature, living in the countryside, a beach lover (but water is freezing cold) whilst still being part of a modern country then Portugal is IMO a better choice. If you seek a more urban hectic lifestyle, intense on cultural activities then probably Spain is a better choice. Lisbon is perhaps an exception.
Either way you can not go wrong, both countries are fascinating.
Great vid Stuart, I fly in and out of Portugal on business occasionally but I don't really know the people or the country. I'm thinking now I should spend a little bit more time there. As for Spain, well I love the people, the culture and the country, north, south, east and west.
Excellent comparison!
I drove around Lisbon for several days a couple of weeks ago
and compared to driving around London, it's a walk in the park! 😂
Lisbon was redesigned in 1755 and projected to be bigger than necessary. It's bad nowadays but still manageable
You do have a fast train in Portugal. It's called Alfa (Pendular) and it reaches 220 kph (more ou less).
My father is portuguese from Minho and my mother is spanish from Castilla y Leon , I agree and comfirm everything you said
Good advice thank you
Thank you for the good information ...
Well done!! good description of the countries. I am a Portuguese living in Spain and I feel at home. Very litle differences in the culture, livestyle and so on. We are basicly the same species. The Penisula Iberica could be a country no doubt.
Same here I always feel at home in Spain ! ❤️🇵🇹
Thanks for the skinny and low down on the salient differences between them.
Who is more loud?
I really enjoy this video well done
Fair review!!! 😉
Cool cheers from Portugal 🇵🇹
Nice vídeo dude i am from Portugal center, Portugal and Spain are two old brothers, i think the 2 country are good
we have never been 'brothers'... portuguese are completly different from span iards, and we dispense totally with their imperalist mentality... - are we 'brothers' only because we lkive in the same peninsula??
@@silveriorebelo8045 ok boomer
Brilliant thank you Bro .
Your channel, presentation and professionalism are all top notch, sir. Thanks. If not taboo, I’d love to hear something about cannabis culture in Iberia. Thanks again!
Traveled on trains and buses in Spain with a bicycle , excellent service .
Parabéns, uma visão muito realista dos dois países
Super Bom Obrigado! I have a Portuguese friend living in the U.S. that talked down on Portugal due to the social programs but you have given me a view from the ground! I`m living in Brasil for the past several years but I peek in on the Portuguese over the internet. Trying to get hold of the accent which is quiet different from Brasilian Portuguese which in my opinion has be influenced by Italian! Obrigado e Atelog!
For all eternity Spain & Portugal are the best brothers in the world 👬
Sisters.
Spot on, but you forgot that its much easier to comunicate with the Portuguese, almost everyone can até least understand English.
Eduardo Viera, while I would agree that proportionally more people in Portugal do speak and understand English I would question that "everyone can at least understand English". You are talking about young urban people with a high school or university education. That is not almost everyone. As an English teacher and someone who has lived in Portugal for almost thirty years I have met doctors, nurses, and lawyers who had almost zero proficiency in English. I had a class of secundary school teachers who were doing English One, still trying to master the verb to be.
@@rayvogensen2983 of course, the older population didn't have any contact with English for decades. But from what we listen of the young class of Spanish in several media, their English is less proficient and also the accent is worse.
@@rayvogensen2983 I am portuguese from a very small town in centre of portugal, and me, my friends and both brother and sister speaks quite good english, and we are all from 22 to 28 yo. But my parents for example, none of them speak english. I had contact with foreigners in my town for a few occasions and they told me how impressive my english was :D :D I think what you say is very valid, in fact not everybody speaks english, specially the older generations. But if we have to compare Portuguese with Spanish when it comes to english language, the Portuguese kicks Spain's ass very easily =D In fact there is a international ranking called English proficiency Index, where Portugal comes in 12th place in the whole world considered as very high!! While our vecinos (neighbours!) comes in 35th classified as moderate.
@@rayvogensen2983 As an English teacher born in Portugal, I am surprised when you say you had a class of secondary teachers trying to master the verb to be. I am sure they were not secondary teachers, primary teachers (1º ciclo), perhaps. First I took a degree on English at Universidade de Lisboa and then I took a post-graduation on education for two years. Where did you teach that class? In a "Escola Superior de Educação"? They cannot be secondary teachers. I would appreciate more information about what you exposed as I am really confused.
Dois países irmãos que a história não pode apagar, mas hoje em dia seguem caminhos diferentes com uma história que os une para sempre.
Podemos dizer o que quisermos um do outro, mas seremos sempre irmãos.
thanks so much
Nice comparison!!
He’s right about the drivers! It’s v.refreshing after coming from ‘Big Brother is watching you’ Britain.
Regarding the drivers, lax law enforcement means overspeeding. It's true.
JonasPrudas - Sometimes it seemed a bit crazy like overtaking on blind bends, but on balance I thought the Portuguese drivers were a lot better than British ones. The latter seem to be spending their time watching the speedo to check they’re not straying above the limit, or driving on auto-pilot because the rigid low speed limits are so mind numbing.
There is a tiny area in northern Portugal (around Miranda do Douro) where some speak Mirandese, a Leonese dialect, it is officially recognised, but they all speak Portuguese. Very fair summary, I have spent a lot of time in both countries, and the driving in Portugal is not too bad in the northeast, as the density of traffic is so low.
In Portugal, we don't have TGV. However, we have Alfa Pendular and Intercidades for long travell.
Alfa has a maximum speed of 245.6 km/h (152.6 mph).
You can find more information at CP.
love your videos
im in lisbon currently
Portugal is the first Templar nation Portugal secret Jesus Christ cálice was in Tomar by Templários 🇵🇹🙏 Porto do Graal..
Amém, de um irmão brasileiro 🇧🇷🇵🇹
@@Iktius There is no historical proof that the Holy Chalice (o Santo Graal) existed. But then again there are many historians who doubt the historical existence of Jesus. Anyway. there are quite a few churches in Europe that claim to have the real Holy Chalice, Valencia being among the most important.
@@rayvogensen2983 os templários foram a Jerusalem e trouxeram o santo Graal para Tomar muitos acreditam que esteja nos subterrâneos do convento de Cristo em Tomar isso deu no canal história Portugal é uma nação templária abençoada por Deus.. D. Afonso Henriques disse ter visto Jesus Cristo no monte quando combatia e foi coroado Rei de Portugal e como promessa Portugal tinha que evangelizar o mundo, ordem de Cristo foi assim que descobriu o Brasil todos os sítios onde chegavam espalhavam a palavra de Deus com as cruzadas
The Holy Grail is not the chalice from where Jesus drink. It's not even a chalice. Not even in the legend, it was a bad translation. In the original story it was a bowl.
But even in the story, it was not to be read as a object. The story of the Holy Grail was a metaphore. And it was to talk about the place that the Knights Templars make for themself. Away from polithics, the Pope, and a place where they could rule alone, and be free to pursuit their goals. And that place was Portugal. A country made by templars, for the templars.
The Holy Grail is not in Portugal. The Holy Grail IS Portugal
For more than 1000 years of Christianity, there was never a legend of the Holy Grail. When Portugal born, in the next 25 years that legend spread trought Europe like wild fire. Spread by Templars, and the order of Cister. (Templars born from the order of cister). And keep in mind that the hero of the legend was called Purcival. Purcival/Portugal.
Hi, I’m going to give my two cents, I’m one of those rare self-deprecating Spaniards, left many years ago, lived and worked in UK, now in US. I haven’t lived in Portugal, though I’ve been many times, and it isn’t a criticism, just a fact. The country had to be rescued by the EU. In general in economy, the bigger the better... ask Germany. Regarding languages, in Spain you may not speak Euskera, Catalan, Gallego... but everyone would understand you in Spanish, if the want to ram a point, they won’t reply to you or they would do it in their language. Regarding Portuguese, I tried several times to learn it, still going no where. Italian is closer to Spanish than Portuguese due specially to the more complicated pronunciation of Portuguese. Also Portugal has had more British influence which I think would make them more polite, I mean that as a compliment, I appreciate Anglo-Saxon culture. Thx
Politicus Animal, da Espanha, nem bons ventos nem bons casamentos.
Cumprimentos de Aljubarrota.
@@galves8688talvez eu devesse ter tentado um casamento com portugueses, espanhóis e americanos terminaram em divórcio ... saudações
" the country had to be rescued by the E.U."???? where have you been ? the E.U. (Europe central bank) is still today rescuing the Spanish economy!!!! remember the P.I.G.S.? Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain all have been helped by the E.U. and for my two little cents on the subject the portuguese are more polite than the Spaniards not because of the Brits, that's ridiculous, they are more polite because its in their blood, culture and family values. I've been to Spain a few times, lovely people beautiful country, lots of similarities between both countries. What makes the portuguese different is exactly that politeness and warmth.
@@jblondon1327 including a spaniard like you
Great info, just what I needed. thank you. Is there an update for 2022? With Mallorca :)
I'm Portuguese and I agree with your opinion. Everything you said is true, besides we have a better sun, beaches, surf waves and maybe a better quality of living during the summer. The cons we don't have snow and if you want make skiing, you must go to Sierra Nevada a must in that matter.
I'm Spanish, I have visited Portugal several times and I would say that each time I felt at home in Portugal. As I did in Italy btw. We have strong cultural, historical and religious ties. I love them both. Within Spain, between the different regions it's the same. It's much more what unites us than what drives us apart. There has to be something wrong with us though, because we apparently can't see it that way and are always in an endless and pointless dispute over minor issues. Meanwhile we are in many aspects going backwards and missing the way.
spaniards have a stuck up mentality regarding Portugal - and I think it's impossible to heal
I understand what the gentleman means by "Portugal is more melancholic", the Portuguese people know their history, they know the great country they once were and compare it to how things are now. When they relied on themselves they were a great empire but as soon as Portugal let itself be influenced by other European Nations politics they quickly went downhill.
Also, its not well known but there is another language spoken in Portugal. No, its not the Madeiran dialect, lol.. its from a small area in northern Portugal called Miranda do Douro.
Madeiran Marvel - That’s probably because they’re all listening to Fado music!
@@jblondon1327 Ok mr. London guy calm down, we all agree slavery is wrong ok? great! Now, a lot of contries did it way worse then Portugal, cough "England and Spain" cough. The problem Portugal has is that it is a socialist shithole since 1974 with government after government sucking the private sector dry with taxes and increasing debt. My final thoughts on the issue are like this, im not responsible for the shit my country did in the past and i also would not hold you accountable for the shit your country did in the past. Yes, we were slave traders and spain almost obliterated the native peoples of central america. So please stop adressing portuguese from your none existing high ground. I do like Spain very much and consider our peoples as brothers.
The language you speak of is mirandês/mirandese. It is a direct descendent of the leonese spoken in the ancient extinct Kingdom of Leon. Some of Leon's lands were conquered by the portuguese.
@@jblondon1327 So much ignorance to correct its hard to know where to start... Portugal was great when they were inventing new types of ships that changed the world, when they invented the rear loading cannon that changed warfare, when they built roads, hospitals, beautiful building that still stand today and much much more.
As for slavery, Africans were enslaving the Portuguese long before it was the other way around. If you did some research you would know about the Moors and later on Algerian Pirates who would take hundreds of slaves at a time (almost 90% of the population of Porto Santo in one afternnoon). Do you know about tribal warfare and how one tribe would take the other as slaves? They are the ones who would bring the slaves to the Portuguese ships to be used as payment but I don't see anybody mention those things these days as it doesn't fit with an agenda. Its ok for them to do it to us but not the other way around!
@@jblondon1327 So much anger, what happened, your Portuguese daddy abandoned you at birth?
Thank you
The minimum salary in Portugal is 700€. In August and December we are paid twice.
Congratulations! Excellent and accurate explanation.
Everything match with the reality.
But.... unless you are already retired there's no point in moving to any of those countries!! The economy is unstable; salaries are low and good jobs are rare....
Think twice before you move to there!!!!....
Portugal has not had a terrorist attack at all. Obviously there are none coming from separatists such as in the Basque Country as there is no movement for a region separating from the central Portuguese government. There are no different languages (Mirandês is spoken by a handful of octogenarians in villages near Mirando do Douro) so there is no linguistic problem as you have in Spain. I think that one of the reasons for not having any Muslim jihadists here is that you have so few Muslim immigrants that might form a community and produce radicalized young people ready to die for Allah. Spain has received thousands of refugees from the north of Africa and they keep coming every day. The crossing to Portugal is too dangerous and there is no welcoming community to receive any refugees even if they made it.
@@jblondon1327, you`re just mad because your boyfriend ran off with a Portuguese, and your only option is whining all over the internet.
@@jblondon1327 Why Greece is full of them??? The poorest region in Iberian Peninsula are spanish..nothing is poorest than Extremadura
There were terrorist attacks in Portugal. Just not recently and not of the type you are looking for. From internal conflicts in the 70/80s between communists and the far-right, to the targeting of the Turkish embassy in Lisbon by the Armenian Revolutionary Army in 1983.
The castle in the picture is the Almourol Castle and was one of the castles given by the first portuguese King Afonso Henriques to the Templar Knights when they arrived at Portugal to fight in Reconquista against the Moors.
Excelente review!
Portugal does have a fast train, man, its called Alpha-Pendular, and it gets to most districts in the country.
Sorry, Empiric Wisdom but the Alpha-Pendular only goes from Braga to Lisbon, passing through Porto. From LIsbon to the Algarve you only have the Intercidades train. From Braga to Lisbon is not most of the districts in the country. There are no fast trains heading north to Vigo nor east towards Madrid. In fact the trains that do go in these directions are very slow, much slower than anything in neighboring Spain, which by the way has one of the best high speed train networks in Europe.
@@rayvogensen2983 Completely untrue. I've circulated countless times from the Alpha that goes from Lisbon to Tunes (in the Algarve indeed). They have been doing that for countless years. I should know, i'm an Algarve native..
@@empiricwisdom7902 You are right. Looking at the CP site I see two Alphas and three Intercidades going fron Gare do Oriente to Faro. Oh, by the way, the expression "completely untrue" sounds rude in English. You might want to say, "Sorry to disagree but..." But still wouldn't you agree that the government needs to invest in a faster train heading east to Badajoz and Madrid and north to Vigo? I live in Chaves and I need to get to Porto to take a train to Lisbon. By next year there will be a high speed train from Madrid to Santiago de Compostela and I will be able to drive thirty minutes up to A Gudiña and hop on a fast train to Madrid.
@@rayvogensen2983 the country you describe having the "best high speed train network in Europe" was the one that interrupted the Douro line international connection (paid for by the Portuguese - even on the Spanish side) in 1985, by decommissioning the path between La Fuente de San Esteban and La Fregeneda ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barca_d%27Alva%E2%80%93La_Fuente_de_San_Esteban_railway ). Until Spain shows that they can be trusted to keep their side of any international railway, I think Portugal should only focus on internal connectivity (which could be improved, indeed).
I am from Portugal🇵🇹
I’m thinking of these 2 countries for relocation! And.... still have no idea after watched this video 🙈
maybe it's because I'm used to it but as someone who as seen a fair enough share of countries, we do not drive dangerously. Our roads are actually quite good and yes there are accidents but nothing alarming. And although I agree our train system is a bit messed up at the moment, they are usually good and take you to your destinations. We have pendular trains which are not of course maglevs or anything of the sort but they run at 200km/h which is more than enough for a small country. Spain needs TGVs because, well, have you noticed the distance between one end of the country to the others?
Other than that, it was a nice observation of our countries
I love both countries! Portugal and Spain! They are both very nice, with beautiful nature and people! However there is a big climatic difference between the coastal line. Portugal has it's beaches facing the Atlantic Ocean, which cools the water, and create big wave's! So if you are into surfing and wetsuits, this is the place for you! Spain got beaches in the south, at the Mediterranean sea, which is warmer, and not so wavy as the Atlantic Ocean. I prefere the beaches just north east of Málaga. Very nice temperature and clear water in the summer!
Clear water doesn't mean no pollution.
@@Jesuscger Spain is number world country at the world when talking about clean beaches and waters, we have the most number of blue flags.
Spain have Ibiza and Mallorca
with cool beaches
@@marvinsilverman4394 the beaches in Mallorca and Ibiza are warm not cool
Portugal is the top ten safest country in the world!
Top 5 mby
Top 3. It's the third savest country in 2019.after Iceland and new Zealand
How come Brazil is much more dangerous than Portugal?
@@lissandrafreljord7913 Afro-Brazilians and Mestizos are the majority.
@@jblondon1327 ikr. Portugal always looks like its on autopilot.
good one stuart
I found the algarve more expensive than the costa del sol. As for paying on the toll roads in Portugal it’s not easy to figure out.
Portugal have good roads and access ...and even fast trains
compared to spain its 3rd world in terms of infrastructure
@@aymanla471 yeah right ...
@Gaming Playroom triggered moortuguese spain is the 13 th economic power in the world one of the most powerful countries in history 2nd most used language in the world 25th in human developement index 10th in infrastructure index 2nd in tourism ....cry in the corner moortuguese 😂😂
@@jblondon1327 are you on drugs?Have you been abuse in portugal or something? everyone say nice things except you. Crapy place you from
@@aymanla471 portugal has more km of motorways them spain. Its 2nd in world
Have you been abuse in portugal you seem to be everyone say nice things except you
I drive in London and have driven in Portugal. Portugal is far easier to drive than London. Mind you, I find London pretty easy to drive, some drivers are rude but you get there everywhere I guess!
Cool, about right i think :)
I would not move permantly to any country, maybe a couple of weeks, month, but I miss home after that. FYI, USA does not have gunfights in the OK corral every day and in every city.
Muito bem.
great video, i would add that in portugal most of the people bellow 40s know how to express themselves in english, in spain you will have a harder time trying to get directions or help in english.
English is the language of movies and most international music. The video is most directed to English speaking people. Portugal has no dub TV shows. Everything is subtitled. In Spain that is not the case. You should be proud of your country but I think you just miss the point of what I sayd.
@Bob el Silencioso levas com a minha língua que não tenho paciência para gente burra. Se eu for inglês e emigrar para um pais nos primeiros tempos vai me ser útil que alguém fale a minha língua, ou não? Alguém disse que os espanhóis eram inferiores ou superiores?
@Bob el Silencioso We ni soy portugués, ustedes que vinieron pa acá para dejar comentarios odiosos sobre los portugueses
@Bob el Silencioso Los únicos ofendidos que veo acá son ustedes para decir la verdad. Parece que los incomoda ver portugueses orgullosos de su país
@Bob el Silencioso bob...stay true to ur name, and shut the f*ck up!....calado és um poeta!
I’m 100% Portuguese but live in USA. From Azores and Madeira. I find the people in Madeira are friendlier than the people in Lisbon. I can tend to be melancholic. I had a friend from Spain and she was more outgoing. I’m more quiet she was louder but not in a bad way. Thanks for the comparison, it was interesting.
JB London I have visited relatives there and although it is beautiful I don’t think I’d want to live on an island. I’d probably live on the mainland, I’d like to be able to drive to Spain or France.
There are not many countries (I think none) that have so many things in common, and that have shared so much and yet still different. Our history has been like two brothers from same parents could have had.
In this video the best scenery is always in Portugal.
I find the driving much worst in England but you quite right people is crazy driving but the behavior is not as bad as England
Including yourself? Be careful mate.
I've always thought the Portuguese were careless drivers.
English drivers are lazy as fuck and rude as well...
Any "on road obsticle" won't be picked up by anyone. They prefer to wait for the police...
Had that many times.
Roads are narrow and hitting mirrors is common...
Britan... Portugal... US.....VERY EASY! If you go drive in Brazil you're gonna see what is drive in a crazy country. Brazilians look like are always in a race competition or in that movie: Fast and furious. And this is not mantioning the fact that they dont obey the traffic rules!
@@lucasmacielfonseca8948 no idea never drive in Brazil . Anywhere is bad but China India I think no one can't beat them I whatcha a few videos in RUclips and is crazy lol 😂😂
Portuguese here! SPOT ON !
I was in the south of Spain and I went to the supermarket and bought an eristoff bottle for 7 euros and I was shocked, here in Portugal we pay 10-11 for an eristoff bottle in super market, same thing with other alcoholic drinks and even refrigerants like coca cola or Fanta.
It's partially true. And a sort of political correctness is strongly implemented so that people cannot complain LOUD. Hence the depressed look in many people's eyes. However anyway, alcohol and soft drinks with loads of sugar? I agree with a high taxation of these non essential goods. The price of food in Portugal has a lower VAT tax 6% because it is considered an essential consumption good. Do you want to have fun in Portugal. It's OK, but you will have to pay tax.
Spain all over the years forced nations to become one territory and and even tried to add Portugal (a nation so different than the others)! At the other end we have a proud nation that regardless of it's economy is friendly and hopes to just have peace ;)!
haha see what i did there 😂🤣😂
There are two official languages in Portugal. Português and Mirandês.
@Gary Dodgson Thanks for the tip. I'm Portuguese...the "and" just showed up due to auto correct on my phone.
@Gary Dodgson Sorry for my previously reply. Read your comment in a hurry and didn't notice what you were referring to. Like I said, I'm Portuguese. Although you could add a A or O in the beginning of that sentence, there is no need and it is perfectly fine like this. Thanks
Mirandês is not an official language but it's a recognized national language.
in spain to , fyI
Great comparison. I am in the us but I'm Spanish descendant and fluent in both languages (English and Spanish but no Portuguese) and cultures. I will be retired with a pension when I do move to Europe and worry about taxes and health care. Which one would you recommend if you were in my shoes. Many thanks, great channel!
If you speak Spanish and are of Spanish descent, Spain is a more natural option.
My question is: If we want to come live & just travel around Spain for a year, what do we need to do/apply for?
Well, you didn't get the response, but you need to check on visas. And that depends on your citizenship.
Google is your best help, including the Embassy's webpage.
What you say about portuguese people is more or less right, except that portuguese are not sad or melancholic. That's a cliche. They are more polite than spanish, that is true.
@@jblondon1327, grow up, loser.
Portugal has one of the highest rates of depression in Europe and suicide in the world
@luis colares bro Im from Portugal, the news sometimes cover that subject
@luis colares just do some research and you'll see
@@jblondon1327 We understand your opinion, I'am sorry that you met the wrong people! I assure you most people are not like that at all! There is some rivalry towards Spaniards, however don't let that fool you, most Spanish people are really well received! I hope I've in someway deescalated the situation for you, take care!
Portugal es más triste, un ejemplo: estaba una vez en Tui, Galicia, un viernes a las 20:30 en verano y estaban todas las terrazas de los bares llenas.
Crucé la frontera a Valença do Minho y con la diferencia horaria eran las 19:30, pues ya estaban cerrando todo, la ciudadela (sitio turístico) ya vacía, y algunos restaurantes también vacio, solo los camareros en la puerta con la carta en la mano que trataban de captar alguno de los escasos turistas que quedaban. Cenamos en uno, pero el ambiente era tristón. No conozco otros sitios de Portugal, pero por ahi fue cruzar la frontera y notar un bajón importante.
Não podes caracterizar os Portugueses só por ter ido a uma terra pequena como Valença do Minho. Devias ter ido ao Porto ou outra cidade maior.
@@anaramos2802 tal vez tengas razón. Pero comparando dos pueblos uno a cada lado de la frontera es lo que vi.
Espanha tem mais turistas do que Portugal, especialmente nessas cidadezinhas pequenas. E tem também mais população, e os costumes espanhóis são mais propensos a estarem no exterior, a conviver, ao passo que os portugueses têm menos esse hábito, convivendo dentro de portas. Sei que já é assim desde há alguns séculos, um viajante francês do século XVIII já dizia o mesmo que tu :P
Which city of Spain is good for living by the consideration on safety and cost?
Hi, is second hand smoke on the streets, beaches and parks a problem for someone very sensitive to the smoke? Do you smell it wherever you go in either country? Thank you
I went from Barcelona to Tarragona by car and had to pay more than 15€ in "peatge"
Lisbon has a crazy traffic. I live in the Porto area and I hate driving in Lisbon, coming from someone who used to live in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil...
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I heard from others that the bureaucracy, especially for immigrants is less cumbersome in Portugal.