Time Markers: 0:00 - The world of Budget Microphones 1:46 - The Shure SM57 2:37 - SM57 Voice Test 4:47 - Pyle Mic Voice Test & SM57 Comparison 5:55 - Adding in EQ 6:38 - Internal Differences & Construction 7:39 - Instrument Mic Comparison 9:04 - Results: I’m Torn… 10:56 - Credit to the Original
dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you are stoned like me atm you can stream all of the latest movies and series on Instaflixxer. Have been watching with my brother for the last couple of days =)
@@tombuck I was so excited to watch this video! It totally inspired me to get this for my 12-year old nephew's birthday this month. It's the perfect gift, in the perfect price range. I spent less than $13 on the mic :)
I've had 4 Pyles for about 4 years now, with zero issues on any of them, I use pop filters on them to help with the treble. I have put countless hours of guitars and drums on them, and been pretty rough on them also (due to the price). They're still holding up just fine, so I figured It's been long enough for me to write this comment. In case you're wondering, I've been recording music for 30+ yrs. and have numerous high end mics in my arsenal. I just felt the Pyles deserved to be acknowledged for being a decent budget friendly alternative.
I like the brightness of the Pyle. In my experience it’s easier to add in depth/lower frequencies in post production than to add brightness. I believe the shire would be a more durable product tho.
For doing a mic comparison on an amp a difference of a millimeter will make a huge difference on sound. If you buy a pyle make sure to check the ground cable it's not always attached correctly. I use a 57 mixed with the pyle at the same time. Gives a good amp sound.
I have a bunch of these for drum mic'ing. There used to be a little solder thing you needed to do to make it better, but they now have that coming with the shipping ones. They sound really good. A little EQ, and it is basically a 57.
I feel ridiculous. I've been putting off buying a set of drum mics for years because they're expensive. Why didn't I just think of getting more of these?! 🤦🏻♂️
@@tombuck Dunno. I totally use them on toms, and even snare, though I like a Beta 57 on snare a little better. But these are great little mics for the price. And, like I said, you used to have to do a little rewiring to make them balanced, but now they seem to come that way (or the last one I bought did). I have like 5 of them mainly for drums.
@@ericdano & @tombuck - I wouldn't want to put 57's anywhere near my kit the way I beat it out at times - hit a 57 Oh no! hit a $14 mic and Oh well it'll be fine 🥳
Definitely the pyle has its own sound, the high end sounds more of its territory, but the fidelity of the sm57 is always great right out of the box, much fuller. Nonetheless, at that price point the pyle is great deal. Good comparison 👍
If Pyle are making money at $14, even when taking the transformer, resin and design costs into account, how much have Shure been making for 55 years at $100?
Great video. I watched it on my phone so it was very hard to distinguish between the two. They both sounded great. I’m going to have to rewatch this with headphones!
Yep, buying cheap stuff on Amazon and testing it against higher end gear, juuust to see how close it comes..... it's an addiction. Maybe there will be a therapy group some day.
The shure just lives up to it's pricetag, it's more consistent and does sound a lot better when you pick up some distance. The Pyle does sound good very nice with a low voice and close to the mic (lots of proximity effect), but too much on the low mids and bright sound might be a deal breaker for higher-pitched voices and instruments. At least they seem to be pretty easy to match (except for bass, the Shure just captures more of the lower end).
So, I've watched like 6 of your videos today. I can tell that you must be a teacher! They are so good and NOT obnoxious and your wife is precious. I have a zillion questions... #1 I have about 113 episodes (video) and I'm now transitioning to podcasting. I'm doing both video and audio. I'm on a budget...so I was wondering what interface (CHEAP) I should use to "start out" with the mic you talked about here?
I'm SUPER flattered by the kind words- thank you! If you've got either of these mics (or any XLR mic), the easiest option is to start with a simple XLR interface for your computer. You can shop around, but typically a single input interface runs between $100 and $150. Then you'd need to sync the audio/video in your editing software. I hope that at least points you in the right direction!
Oh my, that sound on the Pyle is ridiculously good for the price! Has just a tad more high end, but nothing a little eq couldn’t fix. In my opinion the sound quality is in the same ball park for sure! Definitely the better option for a musician trying to get some quality equipment without breaking the bank, thanks for the review I will definitely be checking this one out!
When it comes to the ultra cheap mics that are around, I haven't found anything better than the Pyle. I've been wanting to get a few more of them to build out a drum mic kit. I think they'd work great for it, and in the unfortunate situation where I mic gets hit hard with a stick, I wouldn't worry too much.
Great video ! Your videos just keep getting more interesting and honestly for me I’m going to try the Pyle. I’m all about budget and i can’t hear the difference for the price. Also, your guitar skills are 🔥🙌🙏
Shure SM 57 & 58 have the same guts, just the SM58 has pop shields built in. The main difference is that the Shure has a transformer in the hand grip sealed in with epoxy, the Pyle doesn't have this. The Pyle has a pronounced upper mid / lower treble which might be great for guitar and you might be able to smooth this out by changing a capacitor in the circuit, if there is one!
The Shure microphone has a transformer in it. The material you're seeing is the glue they use to glue the transformer in. That accounts both for the extra weight and for some of the audio differences.
@@blsemetan7232 Transformers do alter the tone of a microphone, usually making it warmer and a little smoother. That's why for instance some people prefer condensers with transformers.
I noticed that too but came to the comments to make sure I wasn’t adding a similar comment. It makes me wonder if you bought a Tab funkenwork transformer and soldered it in and added some glue how it would sound. There are several transformer options out there for sm57 upgrades, should work for the Pyle as well.
This may have already been in a comment, but here goes: The body of the SM57 has a small transformer between the mic diaphragm and the XLR jack. However, in an SM57, if you (while first taking note of where each wire is connected) desolder the wires from the diaphragm capsule and the XLR jack and remove them both so only the center body remains (basically the largest part of the mic and what most people grip), you can stick the body containing the transformer into boiling water, which will melt the epoxy. Then, you can scrape all of that out and remove the transformer. After that, you can solder the wires connected to the diaphragm capsule directly to the XLR connecters, and the result will give you a michrophone with SM7 characteristics. The mic’s output will be quieter, so you’ll need more gain and headroom than an SM57 requires, but it’s a pretty easy mod to diversify your mic cabinet if you have multiple SM57s. Just thought the might be of interest. It appears that the Pyle does not have a transformer in the body like the 57, and that the diaphragm capsule is wired directly to the XLR connector, but those are assumptions I made based on what was shown in the video. And if true, that doesn’t make the Pyle sound like an SM7, as described above. So, I’m sure everyone knows this, but to me, there is clearly a difference in the mic diaphragms of the Shure and the Pyle, and that’s where you’re going to get most of the characteristics of a mic when recording, regardless of it being a condenser, dynamic, etc. However, I think your use case of not having a lot of cash to spend so going with a Pyle copy of the 57 is great advice. I mean, $15 to get started vs $100 isn’t a hard decision. In my opinion, it’s always better to create even if the resources are limited, rather than sit around and fantasize about how great your shit will be once you have the right gear. And I am thinking if you’re recording an instrument with the Pyle, it would be a good exercise in learning EQ to get it closer to a 57, if that’s even something one would want to do. They may be perfectly happy with the sound of the Pyle. The Pyle doesn’t sound bad to me, per se. I think it hypes the mid-to-high end and has less low end than a 57, but this is one of those scenarios where you have to stop and think, “Yes, me and all my recording nerd friends know that, but is the average Spotify user going to have their day ruined if they hear a Pyle mic over a 57 or 58?” I think the answer is no, because most people just don’t give a shit as long as it sounds good enough. Emphasis on “enough,” you don’t need to be Steely Dan here. Am I ranting? Yes, I think I’m ranting. So I will stop. Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it (clearly, haha). Edit: fixed grammar issues due to fat fingers and a small smartphone keyboard. Please forgive any others.
Hi I have like a few Shure mics n love them but purchase this Pyle mic just because of the price n curious to try. I was so shocked at how great this mic sounds when I tested it n for the price it’s Totally worth it. I use it to sing I don’t play an instrument but was quite blown away. Treble like you said is higher while you do have more of a fuller sound on the shure mics this one is totally acceptable. Really great review. I know I’m years off but just saw this video n decided to purchase the Pyle n glad I did I’ll use it the next time. Thank you for the great review!!! 🎤
The Enthusiasm Project yes sir! Much like you, a play a little bit of everything. I haven’t got a drum set yet...we’ll see. I *used* to live in Nashville!!
I've been using the PDMic78 for about 8 years now. Same one. Taken it a bunch of places, use it to record louder vocals in my car. It's been pretty durable for me. The paint is peeling. But it sounds amazing on my voice, since I have a natural low and midrange-y voice, I guess, it brings out the high end more and doesn't oversaturate the low like my SM57 does. I DO use my 57 at my PC for just about everything though!
I was waiting for the Back to the Future quote. “I guess you guys aren’t ready for that. But, your kids are going to love it.” Hoping to hear how it sounded for a snare drum mic. For 14$. I just bought one to find out. Great video 👍🏻
Great video...and was helpful. Although I can afford the more expensive one, I think I'll start off with the Pyle. So much to learn about RUclips and a few items to buy to get started right makes the Pyle a good choice.
To preface, my Bluetooth speaker has a subwoofer and sounds AMAZING. I can totally hear a huge difference between the two while recording the guitar. The Pyle sounded way flat while the sure(?) Sounded like a proper studio recording microphone.
Great video. I also noticed your textbook perfect mic cable rolling and the fantastic sound of the now unsupported Fender Mustang amp. I’m so bummed that Fender is no longer supporting Fuse.
Man for the price that is unreal! I'm planning a drum shootout between the Shure SM57 and the Earthworks DM20 but I might have to consider throwing this one in the mix!
I converted two of the Neewer microphones into dynamic by fitting them with the Pyle PDMIC78 capsules. Plus some sound deadening foam for the bodies. They sound great as well.
Thanks for the heads up on an affordable alternative and giving some great comparisons with voice and instruments. Also, you should have random guitar playing on every video. That was fun.
I've had 2 of the PYLE microphones since 2015, one of them has been beat to hell in bags, and drawers, carried around, scratched and dented up. I have another one that's been barely moved, sits on my desk with a pop filter. Hardly touched, no visible wear really. Both of them sound identical to the day I bought them. I really didn't expect to have them this long when I bought them. It was a "too good to be true" situation.
I’ve got to stop watching this channel. It’s costing me a small fortune. Bought the RØDE Rodecaster because of The Enthusiasm Project and now ordered a couple of these at £16 a pop. Rodecaster due Monday from Germany. Love this channel. Keep up all the great work.
The pyle is naturally more trebley and picks up more mid frequencies seen esp with the guitar amp test but the OG57 is dead on flat. perfect for adjusting it for whatever you need it for. thumbs up from me for $14... its totally useable and great.
Thanx 4 an interestin review. The way you EQ the Pyle to match the 57 (not Peter Walker's ESLs) is revealing. Your bias was, and probably still is, to prefer the recognized brand and to also be influenced by price. Your EQ sets the Pyle to a very pleasing tone that does not at all compare to the 57 dry. If you are interested in how microphones and their electronics work, a very easy-to-understand series of videos featuring Doug Ford is available on EEVBlog (as well as a teardown of an amp system still used in Australian public transport). You may be surprised to learn, for example, that an extra £200 can buy you an extra great review with 'new, bright, exciting, vibrant upper register experiences from this blah blah blah miracle glory innovation' etc., etc ..... for sub-£1 of component additions. That's quite a boost in the balance sheet for a few extra deviations in frequency response. Perhaps, then, for enthusiasts of performance engineering those considerations will play a part. You have provided a useful service. Anyone, after watching this and listening with capable audio (that doesn't have to cost very much at all), who then goes and buys the Shure I suspect is enchanted by brand and not listening very well. The engineers don't set the prices or the physics. Neither do the accountants.
@@tombuck Always a pleasure to revisit an old hobby. Thank you for replying. I was hoping you'd not be one to jump to offense and begin (usually with unfathomable vitriol) defending your particular favorite brand. Your response was gratefully received. I was pondering for a while what brand of cans you're using for monitors but ruled out that they would be defective to the extent that there's not a wide margin between your eq and what you perceive the 57 to sound like. Indeed, as much as I detest g)lenn b)eck, I was once treated to moments when he was balling into what looked like a ribbon mike. He has a good radio voice anyway, sadly, (as do you, by the way, gadly) and he also has a radio face to match, but the eq you dialed reminded me of that rich, full, crisp and clear sound the rig he was using provided. I should have mentioned previously that Doug Ford, for those who haven't heard of him, was chief design engineer for Jan (if memory serves; he mentions firms in a video on EEV Blog) and Rode. Judging by a skim of your channel, I appear to have found another bingewatch channel to put on the playlist. I'm probably going to enjoy a few vids in the meantime, though. My bingewatch catchups can sometimes take years to happen. :) Many thanks again and maybe we'll discuss something on another video soon. Take care.
Well I’m glad you’re here and hopefully you find some videos you like! And my headphones are just some pretty basic Sony ones- I’m not a pro audio engineer by any means, but I like to see what can give good results for a pretty reasonable price 👍
A great review, I would like you to do a test with the Behringer XM8500. I have used it with the Rodecaster Pro and Zoom H6. For me, it's an outstanding mic, but maybe I'm just biased. I've noticed the price of the mic has increased throughout the Covid lockdown.
You should have a pod cast ..the Joe Rogan of Audio...guests etc. you're good..great voice..engaging presentation..and surf music demo ..good on ya mate!
If you can, I think it would be gold if you would do a new review in 5 years of use, maybe even 10 to see how this little knocker stood the test of time! I also have a Shure sm57, and recently ordered another Pyle pd78
ive had those pyle mics and recorded all sorts of instruments with them for the past 4ish years ! have had zero problems with the microphones themselves, but the cables they come with never work lol. i have several SM57's and severalPDMIC78's and use them in similar, but slightly diff ways !
I just saw your comment about the Neewer mic on the other video, and it's so interesting how these other inexpensive mics can work great. Mine is still going strong and I really like using it for drums 👍
@@tombuck haha yea i binged some of your videos the other day. love the content ! great puns too. these pyle mics are absolutely amazing for the price. you can mic a whole drum kit with 3-5 of these and get a good sound w proper mixing and mic placement ! i’ve recorded several bands that way. another good use is for DIY gigs, especially ones featuring punk or hardcore bands, because there’s a non-zero chance something will damage the microphones !
I was just looking into the SM57s and not sure I need one, but having a cheaper knock-off for testing helps save costs if I decide I don't want to use a mic (for guitar).
Dude great video! After watching the Podcastage SM57 vid I was curious if anyone did a comparison to the Pyle. I have 3 of em and for the price I'd buy 10. Thanks for the comparison! Would be great if you included technical details like input levels, etc.
@@tombuck Yeah great idea! I'm curious to hear what they sound like on a full kit. I think some people have mic'd up a kit using SM57's but these Pyles would be interesting...
Shocker, for voice up that close I actually like the unprocessed Pyle quite a bit better! The extra treble evens out the excess bass from the proximity effect.
Bro if that 57 you have is 15 years old... I'm already sold on Shure. I was wavering when it was just the up close voice but then when you used it in recording the strat... I was reminded of the saying every master piece has it's cheap copy. You just can't beat the original!
i dont want to be that guy but you had the pyle on the left side and the shure on the right of the amp speaker were if you had put them on the same spot it would have been just a little more of an accurate test but it was still a great test thanks for the vid man
@@tombuck Well, that's good to hear because it's still in the Amazonster cart. So for $14/It's now &12 dollars, I could get a better mic and an arm for almost the same price? We still have not done a comparison video but you have compared yourself. I guess we'll have to take your word for it even though 😸not that I don't believe you...
Great video! The microphone guitar test was Rock and Roll until you stopped and expertly rolled up your cords and put everything away. Great jams though! 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for test. In my opinion, for vocal is acceptable but for guitar recording is not. Huge difference in middle and high frequency. Thanks again. Well done.
There's definitely a difference, so I guess it depends on the sound you're going for and the style of music being recorded. Glad the comparison was helpful!
Hey Tom, interesting comparison! For $14 you can't go wrong with that! I still think your A-roll shots are looking a bit strange. Kinda soft and yet oversharpened, or something. Your B-roll looks crisp, clean, and smooth, but there's something funky going on with your main shot. Do you see it?
I about forked out a few bones for an sm57 and some other gear, but I saw this video now I’m questioning whether or not I want to. My main question is how has the other mic held up today now that it’s been a few years. I’m looking to mic an acoustic resonator guitar, I might go cheap and find a eq to throw in line.
I think either mic could be great. Obviously the 57 is legendary for instruments, but a nice condenser on a guitar is a very sweet sound too. My MXL has been great in the short time I’ve had it, but there were two people in the comments here who said theirs started to sound a little funky after several years. Only time will tell, but just wanted to make you aware.
I bought a couple of the Pyle. The price is too low not too. For a lot of things, it’s very useable. Not great In a loud rehearsal situation. I’ll try a pop filter for some added effect. Good tip!
You should do some comparisons of Wireless Microphones. Shure makes some very expensive Wireless Microphone systems, you can find on the internet very low cost Wireless Microphones, Both Line level output and Microphone Level output, Amazon has several that are in the $15 and up price range .Newegg also has cheap Wireless Microphones.
I could try a few. I have the Rode Wireless Go, which I love. At work we have the Sennheiser mics, which are great and run about $800. I would have very low expectations for super inexpensive wireless mics 🤷🏻♂️
@@tombuck You might try a few you might be surprised at the sound quality. Granted, I have $130 Nady wireless microphones, but there are some $15-25 wireless that don't sound too bad.
Hey very nice video but I got a question. Me and my friend are going to be recording for RUclips soon and I am looking for equipment. So pretty much we are going to be be doing couch gameing so we will be right next to each other. So I was thinking I would only need one microphone but I might need 2 idk. But do u think the 14 dollor is good for what I am looking for. Or should I get the 100 dollor microphone. And if I got the 100 dollor microphone should I get one or should I get 2. Sorry about my grammar btw
You could definitely get started with the cheaper option into an interface. You could also look into something like a Fifine USB mic that doesn't need an interface and will likely pick you both up pretty well if you're close to each other. I've used the K669B with great results.
@@tombuck I actually already have a fifine microphone. We tried useing that. It wasn't the best fit tho. It picked up my pc fans and just random noises. Any other suggestions? My budget is still 100 dollar so I could get the Shure sm57. I just want to know if that mic would pic up both of our voices or would I need 2 microphones. Or if u think there are better options out there than just say that
I tried adding a wireless xlr transmitter to the sm57 and was disappointed with the lack of gain and the niise level. Using the xlr canle direct worked fine. I bought a Nady ND 10 and it worked just fine. The impediance of the Nady was 600 ohms where the Shure is 300 ohms. I presume that is the issue. I noticed in you comparison the Pyle ishigher impedance than tge sure and sounded like it has more gain than the shure
Really love these reviews.. ..I’ve just plugged in earlier today a 57 replica...and compared with a Shure 58 beta....I was shocked at how the £12 57 actually sounded every bit has good as the £128 -£1 55 Original. Done a Vox and guitar test. No noise from the cheaper mic either...⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Great video! I just recently purchased the Rodecaster Pro along with the Pyle Microphone. Question: How did you hook it up to the rodecaster pro? I made sure I purchased the same microphone in this video but the end piece that runs to the rodecaster pro is not xlr? I must be missing something. Can someone help me please? I'm new to all this and would greatly appreciate it!
@@tombuck I know you have a Mac but I'm having trouble with Audacity recognizing the Rodecaster Pro on my Windows. I've been researching, downloaded the latest version of ASIO4ALL and still no luck. Any ideas? Thanks!
Its like having the time from a $20 USD Casio watch and having the time from an AppleWatch, both do the same, it depends on the ear the person want to listen to, for snares and voice, the Pyle is great and more for the price, guitar amps I like a little the Shure, anyway, thanks for your time of doing this video.
1965? This model? DANG! Impressive. 15 years old for your model still looking new and sounding new is impressive! LOL - As a dad of 3 boys, I enjoyed the dad jokes. "Let's see if it's a Pyle." 100%, this pyle is going to be a choice when I buy mics for my kids (instead of just headsets).
Time Markers:
0:00 - The world of Budget Microphones
1:46 - The Shure SM57
2:37 - SM57 Voice Test
4:47 - Pyle Mic Voice Test & SM57 Comparison
5:55 - Adding in EQ
6:38 - Internal Differences & Construction
7:39 - Instrument Mic Comparison
9:04 - Results: I’m Torn…
10:56 - Credit to the Original
dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you are stoned like me atm you can stream all of the latest movies and series on Instaflixxer. Have been watching with my brother for the last couple of days =)
@Harper Ira Yea, have been using Instaflixxer for months myself :)
Whoa - the moment you started speaking into the Pyle I sat up. That's impressive at that price.
Kinda crazy, right? It was down to $12 earlier this week.
@@tombuck I was so excited to watch this video! It totally inspired me to get this for my 12-year old nephew's birthday this month. It's the perfect gift, in the perfect price range. I spent less than $13 on the mic :)
The moment he started speaking into the Pyle I went straight on Amazon
They used to cost $9.99 in 2016.
I've had 4 Pyles for about 4 years now, with zero issues on any of them, I use pop filters on them to help with the treble. I have put countless hours of guitars and drums on them, and been pretty rough on them also (due to the price). They're still holding up just fine, so I figured It's been long enough for me to write this comment. In case you're wondering, I've been recording music for 30+ yrs. and have numerous high end mics in my arsenal. I just felt the Pyles deserved to be acknowledged for being a decent budget friendly alternative.
The Pyle microphone has more of a "vintage" mid-rangey sound to it. It really gives that shrill, yet pleasant, early-mid 1960's sound.
That’s a great way to describe it 👍
I like the brightness of the Pyle. In my experience it’s easier to add in depth/lower frequencies in post production than to add brightness. I believe the shire would be a more durable product tho.
I actually do prefer it’s tone on the distorted guitar. 👍
@@tombuck Naturally, it's on-axis and right on the speaker, the Shure is off-axis and quieter. Not a valid comparison.
For doing a mic comparison on an amp a difference of a millimeter will make a huge difference on sound. If you buy a pyle make sure to check the ground cable it's not always attached correctly. I use a 57 mixed with the pyle at the same time. Gives a good amp sound.
The pyle sound perfect for me holy crap. I'm so glad I randomly found this video. Thank you so much. Here's a new sub
Glad it helped! The Pyle is pretty decent for sure. I know this video is only a few months old, but it's still working great.
My dad still has his SM57 from the early 90's. still works like a charm. buy once, buy quality!
Oh wow, that’s awesome!
I have a bunch of these for drum mic'ing. There used to be a little solder thing you needed to do to make it better, but they now have that coming with the shipping ones. They sound really good. A little EQ, and it is basically a 57.
I feel ridiculous. I've been putting off buying a set of drum mics for years because they're expensive. Why didn't I just think of getting more of these?! 🤦🏻♂️
@@tombuck Dunno. I totally use them on toms, and even snare, though I like a Beta 57 on snare a little better. But these are great little mics for the price. And, like I said, you used to have to do a little rewiring to make them balanced, but now they seem to come that way (or the last one I bought did). I have like 5 of them mainly for drums.
@@ericdano & @tombuck - I wouldn't want to put 57's anywhere near my kit the way I beat it out at times - hit a 57 Oh no! hit a $14 mic and Oh well it'll be fine 🥳
I don’t know what I love more the reviews or the dad jokes.
Either one is fine with me 👍
The phrase you are looking for: BUY NICE OR BUY TWICE. The sacred gear commandment :)
Yes! Perfect.
But buying the Pyle twice is still a quarter of the price of the Shure! :P
I know it as cry once buy once.
Definitely the pyle has its own sound, the high end sounds more of its territory, but the fidelity of the sm57 is always great right out of the box, much fuller. Nonetheless, at that price point the pyle is great deal.
Good comparison 👍
It's definitely a useful mic. I'm thinking of getting a few more to use a drum mics. 👍
I loveee comparisons videos like this! Watching now 👊
I think I could watch comparison videos all day, haha
If Pyle are making money at $14, even when taking the transformer, resin and design costs into account, how much have Shure been making for 55 years at $100?
One will last for many many years and the other one wont I guess
@@samuelazeredoo It only takes the replacing the cheaper cables, and perhaps the capacitor. it will still save you about 70€.
Great video. I watched it on my phone so it was very hard to distinguish between the two. They both sounded great. I’m going to have to rewatch this with headphones!
As someone else mentioned, the Shire is more flat which would make it better for mixing, but the Pyle still sounds great.
Yep, buying cheap stuff on Amazon and testing it against higher end gear, juuust to see how close it comes..... it's an addiction. Maybe there will be a therapy group some day.
So true! Haha
Exactly :p
It feels pointless yet necessary at the same time 😬
The shure just lives up to it's pricetag, it's more consistent and does sound a lot better when you pick up some distance. The Pyle does sound good very nice with a low voice and close to the mic (lots of proximity effect), but too much on the low mids and bright sound might be a deal breaker for higher-pitched voices and instruments. At least they seem to be pretty easy to match (except for bass, the Shure just captures more of the lower end).
Definitely just bought this for my church. Thank you for the review and suggestion
Good luck, hope it works out great for you guys!
So, I've watched like 6 of your videos today. I can tell that you must be a teacher! They are so good and NOT obnoxious and your wife is precious. I have a zillion questions... #1 I have about 113 episodes (video) and I'm now transitioning to podcasting. I'm doing both video and audio. I'm on a budget...so I was wondering what interface (CHEAP) I should use to "start out" with the mic you talked about here?
I'm SUPER flattered by the kind words- thank you! If you've got either of these mics (or any XLR mic), the easiest option is to start with a simple XLR interface for your computer. You can shop around, but typically a single input interface runs between $100 and $150.
Then you'd need to sync the audio/video in your editing software. I hope that at least points you in the right direction!
Oh my, that sound on the Pyle is ridiculously good for the price! Has just a tad more high end, but nothing a little eq couldn’t fix. In my opinion the sound quality is in the same ball park for sure! Definitely the better option for a musician trying to get some quality equipment without breaking the bank, thanks for the review I will definitely be checking this one out!
When it comes to the ultra cheap mics that are around, I haven't found anything better than the Pyle. I've been wanting to get a few more of them to build out a drum mic kit. I think they'd work great for it, and in the unfortunate situation where I mic gets hit hard with a stick, I wouldn't worry too much.
Great video ! Your videos just keep getting more interesting and honestly for me I’m going to try the Pyle. I’m all about budget and i can’t hear the difference for the price. Also, your guitar skills are 🔥🙌🙏
It’s a really fun mic. The price goes up and down a bit, but is usually $14. Although a few days ago it was $12!
Shure SM 57 & 58 have the same guts, just the SM58 has pop shields built in. The main difference is that the Shure has a transformer in the hand grip sealed in with epoxy, the Pyle doesn't have this. The Pyle has a pronounced upper mid / lower treble which might be great for guitar and you might be able to smooth this out by changing a capacitor in the circuit, if there is one!
Great video dude !
Thanks for the comparison
Glad you liked it!
The Shure microphone has a transformer in it. The material you're seeing is the glue they use to glue the transformer in. That accounts both for the extra weight and for some of the audio differences.
Interesting! I'm glad that mystery has been solved. 👍
wouldn't that mean Shure is using the transformer (with a cap?) as a tone filter, that's probably why it has lower end than the cheap mic.
@@blsemetan7232 Transformers do alter the tone of a microphone, usually making it warmer and a little smoother. That's why for instance some people prefer condensers with transformers.
@@sirnigelcogs Thanks, I was wondering why some mics seem warmer.
I noticed that too but came to the comments to make sure I wasn’t adding a similar comment.
It makes me wonder if you bought a Tab funkenwork transformer and soldered it in and added some glue how it would sound. There are several transformer options out there for sm57 upgrades, should work for the Pyle as well.
LOLOLOLL "...IF IT'S ACTUALLY A PILE?" That wasn't even a dad joke, that was legit! LOLOL
I was probably a bit too proud of that one 😬
FWIW I'm proud of my Pyle.
That was a great comparison. I would have never thought a $14 mic would perform like that
I was definitely shocked by the results!
I've a few types of SM57 and they all come in useful!
They're so great!
This may have already been in a comment, but here goes:
The body of the SM57 has a small transformer between the mic diaphragm and the XLR jack.
However, in an SM57, if you (while first taking note of where each wire is connected) desolder the wires from the diaphragm capsule and the XLR jack and remove them both so only the center body remains (basically the largest part of the mic and what most people grip), you can stick the body containing the transformer into boiling water, which will melt the epoxy.
Then, you can scrape all of that out and remove the transformer. After that, you can solder the wires connected to the diaphragm capsule directly to the XLR connecters, and the result will give you a michrophone with SM7 characteristics.
The mic’s output will be quieter, so you’ll need more gain and headroom than an SM57 requires, but it’s a pretty easy mod to diversify your mic cabinet if you have multiple SM57s.
Just thought the might be of interest. It appears that the Pyle does not have a transformer in the body like the 57, and that the diaphragm capsule is wired directly to the XLR connector, but those are assumptions I made based on what was shown in the video. And if true, that doesn’t make the Pyle sound like an SM7, as described above.
So, I’m sure everyone knows this, but to me, there is clearly a difference in the mic diaphragms of the Shure and the Pyle, and that’s where you’re going to get most of the characteristics of a mic when recording, regardless of it being a condenser, dynamic, etc.
However, I think your use case of not having a lot of cash to spend so going with a Pyle copy of the 57 is great advice. I mean, $15 to get started vs $100 isn’t a hard decision. In my opinion, it’s always better to create even if the resources are limited, rather than sit around and fantasize about how great your shit will be once you have the right gear.
And I am thinking if you’re recording an instrument with the Pyle, it would be a good exercise in learning EQ to get it closer to a 57, if that’s even something one would want to do. They may be perfectly happy with the sound of the Pyle.
The Pyle doesn’t sound bad to me, per se. I think it hypes the mid-to-high end and has less low end than a 57, but this is one of those scenarios where you have to stop and think, “Yes, me and all my recording nerd friends know that, but is the average Spotify user going to have their day ruined if they hear a Pyle mic over a 57 or 58?”
I think the answer is no, because most people just don’t give a shit as long as it sounds good enough. Emphasis on “enough,” you don’t need to be Steely Dan here.
Am I ranting? Yes, I think I’m ranting. So I will stop.
Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it (clearly, haha).
Edit: fixed grammar issues due to fat fingers and a small smartphone keyboard. Please forgive any others.
Hi I have like a few Shure mics n love them but purchase this Pyle mic just because of the price n curious to try. I was so shocked at how great this mic sounds when I tested it n for the price it’s Totally worth it. I use it to sing I don’t play an instrument but was quite blown away. Treble like you said is higher while you do have more of a fuller sound on the shure mics this one is totally acceptable. Really great review. I know I’m years off but just saw this video n decided to purchase the Pyle n glad I did I’ll use it the next time. Thank you for the great review!!! 🎤
Whoa!!! Fantastic review! Thanks for sharing the info with us! If I’m ever recording instruments, I’ll defiantly grab one!!! 😁
Do you play instruments?! I'd love to start recording music again.
The Enthusiasm Project yes sir! Much like you, a play a little bit of everything. I haven’t got a drum set yet...we’ll see. I *used* to live in Nashville!!
I've been using the PDMic78 for about 8 years now. Same one. Taken it a bunch of places, use it to record louder vocals in my car. It's been pretty durable for me. The paint is peeling. But it sounds amazing on my voice, since I have a natural low and midrange-y voice, I guess, it brings out the high end more and doesn't oversaturate the low like my SM57 does. I DO use my 57 at my PC for just about everything though!
The 57 has a transformer? Transformer
I was waiting for the Back to the Future quote. “I guess you guys aren’t ready for that. But, your kids are going to love it.” Hoping to hear how it sounded for a snare drum mic. For 14$. I just bought one to find out. Great video 👍🏻
You really can’t go wrong. I actually saw the price at $12 earlier this week. 🤯
Great video...and was helpful. Although I can afford the more expensive one, I think I'll start off with the Pyle. So much to learn about RUclips and a few items to buy to get started right makes the Pyle a good choice.
You can't go wrong for the price. 😎
That bit with the light was hilarious!
To preface, my Bluetooth speaker has a subwoofer and sounds AMAZING. I can totally hear a huge difference between the two while recording the guitar. The Pyle sounded way flat while the sure(?) Sounded like a proper studio recording microphone.
Reeaaaallly?! Very interesting!
Great video. I also noticed your textbook perfect mic cable rolling and the fantastic sound of the now unsupported Fender Mustang amp. I’m so bummed that Fender is no longer supporting Fuse.
Thanks Peter! I didn't realize Fender wasn't supporting the amp anymore. I guess I have had it for quite a while, but it works great!
Hmm. The Pyle mic has a bit of crunchiness to it on the guitar that actually works in its favour on punk songs like "Dammit" (as you displayed here).
Agreed! I've also wanted to get a few more of them to use a drum mics 👍
I think the Pyle is just closer to the center of the speaker, so you just need to move it closer to one of the edges.
The pyle is on the speaker cloth, right directly onto it, the shure isn't, that's greatly contributing to the tonal difference.
For a moment there.. I thought you were gonna break out your beatbox skills! :)
I’ll save that for the next mic review 😁
Man for the price that is unreal! I'm planning a drum shootout between the Shure SM57 and the Earthworks DM20 but I might have to consider throwing this one in the mix!
That would be super cool to see/hear!
I converted two of the Neewer microphones into dynamic by fitting them with the Pyle PDMIC78 capsules. Plus some sound deadening foam for the bodies. They sound great as well.
you've just earned my sub because of your sense of humor man! hahahaha
Thanks that’s great to hear! Sometimes it’s a reason people leave instead of join 😁
Epic pun video!
Thanks for the heads up on an affordable alternative and giving some great comparisons with voice and instruments. Also, you should have random guitar playing on every video. That was fun.
Haha, I’m glad you liked it! The instruments are in the background of every video. Might as well use them sometimes!
thank you very much for this video. helped me make a decision.
Great to hear!
Wow! The Pyle is really musical
OMG! Was that Blink182 you just played?! *My hero*
Haha, yes! Most of my guitaring involves pop/punk/ska songs 😁
Wow I actually liked the sound of the Pyle over the sm57 for the guitar amp!
I love how you reply to all of the comments so fast! Is this your full time job?
Haha nope, I just try to keep on top of things when I can 👍
The Pyle has a very good quality sound. Very impressed.
Absolutely worth the price! It's still holding up great 👍
I've had 2 of the PYLE microphones since 2015, one of them has been beat to hell in bags, and drawers, carried around, scratched and dented up. I have another one that's been barely moved, sits on my desk with a pop filter. Hardly touched, no visible wear really.
Both of them sound identical to the day I bought them. I really didn't expect to have them this long when I bought them. It was a "too good to be true" situation.
"Oh, I left my light in there..." Awesome! Toooo funny. Love how your gaff tape is in your brand color.
You know how excited I was to find that color of tape! 😁
The Enthusiasm Project I can only imagine 😎
I’ve got to stop watching this channel. It’s costing me a small fortune. Bought the RØDE Rodecaster because of The Enthusiasm Project and now ordered a couple of these at £16 a pop. Rodecaster due Monday from Germany. Love this channel. Keep up all the great work.
I’m sorry. But speaking of pop, did you get pop filters for them?
As a poor educator, self-funding my class... good enough will have to do at the moment. I appreciate the review, it helps!
That’s definitely a case where “good enough” can have huge results. As long as it gives students access and exposure to new things, it’s worth it.
The pyle is naturally more trebley and picks up more mid frequencies seen esp with the guitar amp test but the OG57 is dead on flat. perfect for adjusting it for whatever you need it for. thumbs up from me for $14... its totally useable and great.
Yep. I agree 100%
Thanx 4 an interestin review.
The way you EQ the Pyle to match the 57 (not Peter Walker's ESLs) is revealing. Your bias was, and probably still is, to prefer the recognized brand and to also be influenced by price.
Your EQ sets the Pyle to a very pleasing tone that does not at all compare to the 57 dry.
If you are interested in how microphones and their electronics work, a very easy-to-understand series of videos featuring Doug Ford is available on EEVBlog (as well as a teardown of an amp system still used in Australian public transport). You may be surprised to learn, for example, that an extra £200 can buy you an extra great review with 'new, bright, exciting, vibrant upper register experiences from this blah blah blah miracle glory innovation' etc., etc ..... for sub-£1 of component additions. That's quite a boost in the balance sheet for a few extra deviations in frequency response. Perhaps, then, for enthusiasts of performance engineering those considerations will play a part.
You have provided a useful service. Anyone, after watching this and listening with capable audio (that doesn't have to cost very much at all), who then goes and buys the Shure I suspect is enchanted by brand and not listening very well. The engineers don't set the prices or the physics. Neither do the accountants.
Thanks for taking the time to add this info! Price/brand perception is definitely an interesting thing...
@@tombuck
Always a pleasure to revisit an old hobby. Thank you for replying. I was hoping you'd not be one to jump to offense and begin (usually with unfathomable vitriol) defending your particular favorite brand. Your response was gratefully received.
I was pondering for a while what brand of cans you're using for monitors but ruled out that they would be defective to the extent that there's not a wide margin between your eq and what you perceive the 57 to sound like. Indeed, as much as I detest g)lenn b)eck, I was once treated to moments when he was balling into what looked like a ribbon mike. He has a good radio voice anyway, sadly, (as do you, by the way, gadly) and he also has a radio face to match, but the eq you dialed reminded me of that rich, full, crisp and clear sound the rig he was using provided.
I should have mentioned previously that Doug Ford, for those who haven't heard of him, was chief design engineer for Jan (if memory serves; he mentions firms in a video on EEV Blog) and Rode. Judging by a skim of your channel, I appear to have found another bingewatch channel to put on the playlist. I'm probably going to enjoy a few vids in the meantime, though. My bingewatch catchups can sometimes take years to happen. :)
Many thanks again and maybe we'll discuss something on another video soon. Take care.
Well I’m glad you’re here and hopefully you find some videos you like! And my headphones are just some pretty basic Sony ones- I’m not a pro audio engineer by any means, but I like to see what can give good results for a pretty reasonable price 👍
I love your comparisons. Not bad on the guitar ;-)
Thank you 😬
A great review, I would like you to do a test with the Behringer XM8500. I have used it with the Rodecaster Pro and Zoom H6.
For me, it's an outstanding mic, but maybe I'm just biased.
I've noticed the price of the mic has increased throughout the Covid lockdown.
I don’t have the Behringer but I’ve gotten many recommendations for it. They make great stuff.
You should have a pod cast ..the Joe Rogan of Audio...guests etc. you're good..great voice..engaging presentation..and surf music demo ..good on ya mate!
Haha, thank you! Glad you liked the demo!
Hi Tom. Thanks for posting - really seems to be a useful video… Is the pyle still alive?
Yep! Still works great!
@@tombuck did You try the Behringer Clone as well?
Dude your pun/dad joke game is on point!!
Wow, I really liked the brighter tone of the Pyle on guitar! Sounds like it'd make my guitars cut through the mix better
Just got an idea on the mic I'll buy for my podcast
If you can, I think it would be gold if you would do a new review in 5 years of use, maybe even 10 to see how this little knocker stood the test of time! I also have a Shure sm57, and recently ordered another Pyle pd78
I'll have to set a reminder! It would be super interesting to see how it holds up. It's only been a few months, but still going strong.
08:50 nice cable rolling skills
BUT . . . no over under so when you throw it across the studio floor . . .
ive had those pyle mics and recorded all sorts of instruments with them for the past 4ish years ! have had zero problems with the microphones themselves, but the cables they come with never work lol. i have several SM57's and severalPDMIC78's and use them in similar, but slightly diff ways !
I just saw your comment about the Neewer mic on the other video, and it's so interesting how these other inexpensive mics can work great. Mine is still going strong and I really like using it for drums 👍
@@tombuck haha yea i binged some of your videos the other day. love the content ! great puns too. these pyle mics are absolutely amazing for the price. you can mic a whole drum kit with 3-5 of these and get a good sound w proper mixing and mic placement ! i’ve recorded several bands that way. another good use is for DIY gigs, especially ones featuring punk or hardcore bands, because there’s a non-zero chance something will damage the microphones !
The apple micro phone
The cringe is real 😂
Great vid. We’re you using a cloud lifter on either of these?
In this case, no. But I'd definitely recommend it with the RCP to get the best sound from a dynamic mic in most cases.
I was just looking into the SM57s and not sure I need one, but having a cheaper knock-off for testing helps save costs if I decide I don't want to use a mic (for guitar).
Absolutely- you really can’t go wrong with it 👍
Dude great video! After watching the Podcastage SM57 vid I was curious if anyone did a comparison to the Pyle. I have 3 of em and for the price I'd buy 10. Thanks for the comparison! Would be great if you included technical details like input levels, etc.
Glad you liked it! I’m thinking of getting more myself to create a drum mic kit.
@@tombuck Yeah great idea! I'm curious to hear what they sound like on a full kit. I think some people have mic'd up a kit using SM57's but these Pyles would be interesting...
Shocker, for voice up that close I actually like the unprocessed Pyle quite a bit better! The extra treble evens out the excess bass from the proximity effect.
The Pyle is really a great mic. I was suprised!
Bro if that 57 you have is 15 years old... I'm already sold on Shure. I was wavering when it was just the up close voice but then when you used it in recording the strat... I was reminded of the saying every master piece has it's cheap copy. You just can't beat the original!
100% it's absolutely worth the price. The Pyle is still going strong, but I definitely place a lot of trust in the Shure.
i dont want to be that guy but you had the pyle on the left side and the shure on the right of the amp speaker were if you had put them on the same spot it would have been just a little more of an accurate test but it was still a great test thanks for the vid man
I would like to see a comparison of the Pyle compared to the Neewer. I ordered the 800 last night...
They both lean towards the treble end, but I do personally like the Pyle more. Although the Neewer can sound good with some tuning 👍
@@tombuck Well, that's good to hear because it's still in the Amazonster cart. So for $14/It's now &12 dollars, I could get a better mic and an arm for almost the same price? We still have not done a comparison video but you have compared yourself. I guess we'll have to take your word for it even though 😸not that I don't believe you...
Amazing 👍🏼
Great video! The microphone guitar test was Rock and Roll until you stopped and expertly rolled up your cords and put everything away. Great jams though! 😂😂😂😂
There’s supposed to be a card that pops up and links to my video about how to wrap cables 😬
OMG! Nothing beats SHURE🥰
It's Shure a great mic!
Thank you for test. In my opinion, for vocal is acceptable but for guitar recording is not. Huge difference in middle and high frequency. Thanks again. Well done.
There's definitely a difference, so I guess it depends on the sound you're going for and the style of music being recorded. Glad the comparison was helpful!
That light in the box gag lol
love the tee bud!
Haha, thank you!
To me the big difference was in the music . Not so much in The voice.
This is a no brainer for just hobby recording. Wonder how they sound on drums. Thank you!
@7:05 The Shure has a audio transformer in the back incased in resin. That's what you're seeing.
Ahh, thanks for clarifying!
Hey Tom, interesting comparison! For $14 you can't go wrong with that!
I still think your A-roll shots are looking a bit strange. Kinda soft and yet oversharpened, or something. Your B-roll looks crisp, clean, and smooth, but there's something funky going on with your main shot. Do you see it?
Something was odd with this one, but I’m not sure what. 🤷🏻♂️
The Enthusiasm Project Hmm. We must get to the bottom of it! BTW, congrats on 20K.
I about forked out a few bones for an sm57 and some other gear, but I saw this video now I’m questioning whether or not I want to. My main question is how has the other mic held up today now that it’s been a few years. I’m looking to mic an acoustic resonator guitar, I might go cheap and find a eq to throw in line.
I think either mic could be great. Obviously the 57 is legendary for instruments, but a nice condenser on a guitar is a very sweet sound too. My MXL has been great in the short time I’ve had it, but there were two people in the comments here who said theirs started to sound a little funky after several years. Only time will tell, but just wanted to make you aware.
The Pyle has been catching so much attention that it went from $14 to $37 😆 - seeing this video 4 years later, but hey haha
Oh wow, that's interesting! Still a good deal, but $14 was just ridiculous.
I bought a couple of the Pyle. The price is too low not too. For a lot of things, it’s very useable. Not great In a loud rehearsal situation. I’ll try a pop filter for some added effect. Good tip!
I’m thinking of getting more to make a decent drum mic setup 👍
You should do some comparisons of Wireless Microphones. Shure makes some very expensive Wireless Microphone systems, you can find on the internet very low cost Wireless Microphones, Both Line level output and Microphone Level output, Amazon has several that are in the $15 and up price range .Newegg also has cheap Wireless Microphones.
I could try a few. I have the Rode Wireless Go, which I love. At work we have the Sennheiser mics, which are great and run about $800. I would have very low expectations for super inexpensive wireless mics 🤷🏻♂️
@@tombuck You might try a few you might be surprised at the sound quality. Granted, I have $130 Nady wireless microphones, but there are some $15-25 wireless that don't sound too bad.
That guitar looks soo nice
It is! It was on my wishlist for like 10 years before I finally got it. 🤤
I have a shure. Would love 3 more.
Hey very nice video but I got a question. Me and my friend are going to be recording for RUclips soon and I am looking for equipment. So pretty much we are going to be be doing couch gameing so we will be right next to each other. So I was thinking I would only need one microphone but I might need 2 idk. But do u think the 14 dollor is good for what I am looking for. Or should I get the 100 dollor microphone. And if I got the 100 dollor microphone should I get one or should I get 2. Sorry about my grammar btw
You could definitely get started with the cheaper option into an interface. You could also look into something like a Fifine USB mic that doesn't need an interface and will likely pick you both up pretty well if you're close to each other. I've used the K669B with great results.
@@tombuck I actually already have a fifine microphone. We tried useing that. It wasn't the best fit tho. It picked up my pc fans and just random noises. Any other suggestions? My budget is still 100 dollar so I could get the Shure sm57. I just want to know if that mic would pic up both of our voices or would I need 2 microphones. Or if u think there are better options out there than just say that
The Shure has a transformer in the base, to boost the signal. All the cheaper versions have it missing.
I tried adding a wireless xlr transmitter to the sm57 and was disappointed with the lack of gain and the niise level. Using the xlr canle direct worked fine. I bought a Nady ND 10 and it worked just fine. The impediance of the Nady was 600 ohms where the Shure is 300 ohms. I presume that is the issue. I noticed in you comparison the Pyle ishigher impedance than tge sure and sounded like it has more gain than the shure
I use the pyle for my podcast.
Really love these reviews.. ..I’ve just plugged in earlier today a 57 replica...and compared with a Shure 58 beta....I was shocked at how the £12 57 actually sounded every bit has good as the £128 -£1 55 Original. Done a Vox and guitar test. No noise from the cheaper mic either...⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
It’s pretty shocking how good an inexpensive mic can sound 👍
Great video! I just recently purchased the Rodecaster Pro along with the Pyle Microphone. Question: How did you hook it up to the rodecaster pro? I made sure I purchased the same microphone in this video but the end piece that runs to the rodecaster pro is not xlr? I must be missing something. Can someone help me please? I'm new to all this and would greatly appreciate it!
Do I just need to purchase an XLR to XLR cable to plug up?
Yes! The mic comes with a semi-unusual cable. The Rodecaster has standard XLR inputs. Good luck!
@@tombuck I know you have a Mac but I'm having trouble with Audacity recognizing the Rodecaster Pro on my Windows. I've been researching, downloaded the latest version of ASIO4ALL and still no luck. Any ideas? Thanks!
"Oh look, I left my mic in here" not for nothing, pretty cool effect...
Its like having the time from a $20 USD Casio watch and having the time from an AppleWatch, both do the same, it depends on the ear the person want to listen to, for snares and voice, the Pyle is great and more for the price, guitar amps I like a little the Shure, anyway, thanks for your time of doing this video.
That's a good analogy. I feel like the Pyle is a great option for creating a budget drum mic setup.
Well the 57 also has a transformer in the Pyle doesn’t. That’s with that glue looking material is in the 57.
Thank you! I wasn’t sure.
1965? This model? DANG! Impressive. 15 years old for your model still looking new and sounding new is impressive! LOL - As a dad of 3 boys, I enjoyed the dad jokes. "Let's see if it's a Pyle." 100%, this pyle is going to be a choice when I buy mics for my kids (instead of just headsets).
Haha, that’s great to hear! I’m thinking of getting a few more so I can finally mic up my drum set properly. It’s still holding up really well 👍
Wow! I wasn't expecting surf guitar. My new "guitar hero." Oh yeah... there was a cheap Pyle of mic review too.
Haha, thanks! I just sent you an email!
@@tombuck Thanks! I am not worthy!!! (bowing)