I would guess every single Christian in the country agrees with this statement. I have a particular problem with those who teach abiogenesis is the explanation of how life began on earth. This is a huge scientific falsehood.
@@stevejames5863 I would argue the opposite: that he does, in fact, understand that religion is not science. That is exactly why he is bothered by religious believers treating their theology as a replacement for science and thus misleading children about what is true scientifically and what is not.
@@harmonium8198 most christains don t believe that the earth is some 6000 years old. a very small percentage of people and christains believe this. when they go to church, they don t expect an exam on biology or physics. he uses the most extreme christains, because he has an agenda. so he is manipulating you. the bible then is mostly stories, most of them have a moral lesson, or a spiritual teaching. again, you are right it is not science. bishop usher, thought up the world was 6000 odd years old, and people hang on to it like crazy. i mean atheists do, because it s not true....he s one guy, in the middle ages.. if anything, genisis, has some accuracy as to the big bang, ie god said , let their be light, etc..but most christains see genisis as more symbolic. and ok yeah i agree, der r sum krstinz, in da southern states....guess what, thats all he talks about. there are many other christains outside of the bible belt, who don t take the bible as literally as they do. but since other christains think they can be one...stupid or ignorant, or two...way to literal or extreme...he ll hide that also. i m a christain, i know many christains who think bible belt christains can be illogical, too severe, even racist, and even not talk the bible literally, they actually take the moral aspects out of context, esp if they are severe capitialsts , racists, and cruel to the poor.....has he talked about the billion s of christains who disagree with the central themes and extremism of the bible belt? the millions upon millions who do think evolution is probably valid? nope. do you know why? that would ruin the stronghold arguement he has...christains are stupid, deluded, and somewhat evil...if he talks about all kinds of other christains, many...many pillars of communities, and some very bright, anglicans, various catholics, some possible lutherans, who btw have same sex marriages, united church goers are liberal, and among the above, except catholic, actually have same sex marriages. you see there are many types of christains... but , shhhh he thinks all christains are those in the bible belt. if he added the rest, his arguement would be squashed.
How is is SCIENTIFIC to state categorically the IMPOSSIBILITY of God existing??.- He wouldn't be much of a God if you could "FORCE" Him to reveal Himself....in any case He DID reveal Himself - 2000 years ago when He chose to come into His universe as a human being.....like it or not, you HAVE to deal with the historical reality of JESUS CHRIST....
@Markus Tanbeck no he was trying to challenge his views. It's what a good interviewer (politically) always does. The reason it was weak us because he clearly didn't believe what he was saying.
Too many people believe that the stance taken by interviewers represent actual belief and opinions. Good interviewers will play devils advocate and take the opposing stance to the person they interview to challenge what is being said.
Omniscient This style of interview is perfectly normal in the UK - it doesn't reflect the interviewers personal view. He doesn't give any slack because his role is devils advocate, therefore he wants to challenge Richard's position.
Athiests are polytheists in Lordship as they took atoms and stardust as creators, thus making them worse than idolaters in shirk (polytheism). Because the idolater doesnt believe that his inanimate idol created the world, let alone carved itself. But athiests believe that the atoms of the idol did. And they have a large Hadron collider trying to figure out how their atom god did it. And they think they are ape mammals, awaiting to vanish into those particle gods of theirs once their despair kicks in. Thus no one ever had the truth, nor was anything right or wrong to them. The cannibal vanishes with his victims, and they with everyone they agreed and disagreed with. Thus doing good was useless as it eventually becomes equal with the evil, and the evil justified, as it becomes equal with the good. And thus athiesm is very dangerous for humans in this life. They have no Jizyah or protection status in Islam. And it is not lawful to marry their women, or eat the meat they slaughter, same as pagans.
It’s actually quite shameful, an opportunity to teach us all something from a great mind squandered to try to drum up some controversy and hope it gets some views on RUclips
Who The Hell Is Harvy You’re confusing the Beeb with a joke US ‘news’ outlet bro....but no, we have REAL news stations in the UK and the BBC is one of the best, globally respected.
This statement shows the ignorance of Dawkins. There is no evidence which supports a flat earth yet there is overwhelming evidence for the biblical God.
Hermaeus Mora Saying there is no evidence for God does not make you correct. In fact the man widely regarded as the greatest legal mind who ever lived whose profession it is to decide what constitutes as evidence disagrees with you. (Professor Simon Greenleaf). What qualifications do you possess which gives you a greater understanding of evidence than he does which would allow your assertion to be taken seriously?
@Not the real Tupac Can I ask your qualifications in the relevant topics here which would give you reasonable authority to tell the greatest legal mind who ever lived that he does not know what evidence is? Do you realise that just because thinking there is no evidence for God does not make you right? The fact that there is evidence for God proves you wrong. From above, the earth does look like a circle stupid. You misinterpret and cherry pick the verses. This is being dishonest.
@Not the real Tupac Yes attitudes change over time. The evidence Greenleaf used doesn't. The evidence Greenleaf used to draw his conclusion is exactly the same then as it is now. If anything the same evidence has even greater strength now due to recent archeological discoveries. So again, what experience and qualifications do you possess which gives you authority to claim the world's greatest legal mind is wrong about what does and does not constitute as evidence? I can answer for you. None! You have no reasonable authority to claim Greenleaf doesn't know what he is talking about. Only your bias leads you to believe your own unsupported view. As for Isaiah 40 22, that was metaphorically written. But maybe your not clever enough to realise that either and you believe it is an actual 10 billion person tent that we are supposed to be living in.
@Not the real Tupac Sorry but you have not given a suitable reason to believe that professor Greenleaf was wrong. You provided no evidence that the evidence Greenleaf used to reach is conclusion was not reliable. As I said in my previous reply, it is evident that it is only your bias which leads you to believe he was wrong as the evidence strongly suggests otherwise.
Yes, it's getting really tedious. In 2019 it is well past time to STOP: 1. proposing belief in fairy tales for adults as a way to ease emotional pain 2. proposing belief in a god as a celestial cop 3. suggesting we are being rude to Muslims because we don't respect iron age educational systems 4. labelling children according to the belief system of their parents Catch up Mark Urban - you're 20 years behind, like the rest of the happy Newsnight team.
"greatest evolutionary biologist" he has not written a scientific paper for like forever. Many in the scientific community find his tirades against religion embarrassing
No he isn’t. He’s an ass clown. He makes sooooo many mistakes in his non-scientific, opinion based book; the God Delusion. He has zero understanding of geology and doesn’t know why mountains are important, makes MANY mistakes when talking about fossils and rocks, and doesn’t know that the sequencing of the human genome has proven that all human beings are related which is what the allegorical creation account explains. I bet you think Bill Nye is a great scientist too even though he’s not a real scientist
being famous does not make him on the greatest scientists, you have advance the field in some way, and he hasn't done that. He seems like an atheist fanatic.
One of the most unpleasant influences in the new atheism Dawkins is an annoyance to many British scientists and is panned vociferously on questionnaires that do not even mention him.... "Though Dawkins wasn’t a part of the interview process, and researchers didn’t ask about him, 48 of the 137 British scientists they spoke to mentioned Dawkins. Of those 48 that referenced him, 80 per cent said they thought that Dawkins misrepresents science and scientists in his books and public speeches, according to the study by Rice University, Texas." See The Independent (Monday 31 October 2016 16:53).
Ive seen most of Mr Richard Dawkins debates and lectures, and I feel most of the interviewers ask the same questions over and over again. Even Mr Richard would be thinking of how to answer it differently. I wished the interviewers would do their research before conducting such interviews. Its waste of time if the agenda repeats.
Yea..shame...he spends his days questioning repeatedly with many obtuse words contrary to 'life' Good thing death does its due diligence...It has the last word with no contrary...for Dawkins.
@@mikusguitarius Sure I know what it means. ..It is based in "religious roots"...and to use it, you acknowledge "existence of the Devil and God"..otherwise you could probably say Voldemort's Advocate. .which is more 'fictional based' expression. You can find that in general religious connotations in most dictionaries...unless you want to redefine it's roots to self suit.
Nevi Gabriel Devil’s Advocate: noun, a person who advocates an opposing or unpopular cause for the sake of argument or to expose it to a thorough examination.
@@nevig6557 Just saying 'devil's advocate' doesn't mean you have to be believe the devil exists: NASA scientists and astronauts say God Speed on the radio to mean good luck, doesn't mean they believe god is speeding them along to safety.
Richard Dawkins is a brilliant batsman for the team of reason, batting away every old cliche of ignorance that is pitched at him again and again. Thank you Richard.
"Richard Dawkins is a brilliant batsman for the team of reason". Lol. All Dawkins is good at is being well spoken and blinding people with nonsense. For example, Dawkins gives credibility to the untestable, unproveable multiverse theory! He calls it an "elegant theory" which he has "time for" even though it is science fiction nonsense. I rest my case.
It concerns me that we reserve spaces for religious figures in our law making. If your gonna play it that way, I want scientists of all fields and teachers and people of all fields there too.
@Retropolis there are 26 church of England bishops and archbishops that sit in and have a vote in the House of Lord's. Some form of ancient laws. Albeit in the second house, I think it's a disgrace that they're there and possibly giving guidance and moral direction, though why their morals I have no idea why
Anthony Burke so ban religion in school. But allow them to create and believe what they want, without forceful teaching by schools. They can still go to Mosque, Church, etc. to learn religion as fact. And schools will always teach ABOUT religion and what's believed - its whether they are taught them as a fact like evolution is.
It's laughably very conceivable that you don't know just '2019' IS the unspoken "anno Domini nostri Jesu Christi" 😂😁😃...and we still have to put up with idiots like you.
@@FrancescoDiMauro Actually it's historically Dionysius Exiguus who invented Anno Domini 'years'..but regardless of that.. the point is that every Atheist under the sun mentioning a 'year' like you do acknowledges "Jesus" unwittingly. That makes "you" specifically an idiot of note😂😂 Sorry to give you that bad news..lol..but your identity and birth documents are dated. When you manage to delete and vaporize all that..I'll stop laughing. Good luck...your time starts.......now😂😂
@@nevig6557 Oh, I thought there was something special about this year in particular, like he was going to come back or something... must be hard for you to wait, uh? By the way, you do know that Jesus (the man) was actually born around 4 BC? funny right? Probably you don't, like apparently you've never heard of conventions... Have a nice one, you moron!
@@FrancescoDiMauro Er ..no.."2019" is just the Year of an Idiot...'you'..A.D...but good try deflecting from your stupidity 😂😂 Try not to 'think'..it's not exactly your forte.
The God Delusion is really quite arrogant and assumes that all Gods are abrahamic, and also that atheism is naturally correct. It doesn’t set out to disprove God, it aims to set out to assume God doesn’t exist and spit in the face of religious people.
@@mawgans7470 There is no need to disprove God. The claim of God's existence is made by religious people. As atheists we simply reject those claims, as we don't find them convincing enough.
Euan MacLennan The aim of the God Delusion, as implied by the title, is to prove that believing in God is delusional. There is no point to having a 400-or so page rant about how delusional humans are without why they are delusional. And, whilst I’m a de facto theist, I believe that neither side can be proven true or false, hence why burden really falls on either side. Both sides are making claims that draw away from the most truthful claim, which is ‘I don’t know’. Now, with a climate-change denier, or a flat-earther, we know (as in we have used scientific methods to reach the conclusion that) that the earth is spherical and climate change exists. So it is logical to assume that the burden of proof falls on climate change deniers or flat earthers, because they are making claims which are in opposition to common knowledge. Really, when it comes to God, there is no such thing as ‘common knowledge’. Now, that’s what we really mean when we talk about ‘burden of proof’, because if it did work as ‘you are claiming something exists, which means you must justify it’, then theoretically there would be no need to ask holocaust deniers or climate-change deniers for their proof, because they are literally assuming nothing is there, whilst somebody is claiming there is. But we don’t do that - because these two groups contradict common knowledge, we question them for their proof, rather than those who believe the holocaust did happen and climate change is a thing.
@@mawgans7470 I don't think your analogy works. Yes climate deniers are believing in the non-existence of something - however one would expect certain factors to be the case in a world without climate change - eg no temperature changes year on year which one could demonstrate. And you don't understand what an atheist is. I'm not saying god doesn't exist & neither is dawkins. We reject claims of God due to poor evidence. That doesn't mean we're saying god doesn't exist, no one knows if he does. It's just the evidence for his existence is nonexistent. So it seems unlikely to me that a God exists.
Just substitute a few words and hear the gibberish is like this: Dawkins "Many uneducated people in the US were sold debt without realising the consequences" Journo "Why do you pick on people who have debt and say they are uneducated?" Dawkins "I didn't say that' Journo : "Yes but, what have you got against Americans?" Dawkins: "Err... WTF?!"
"One last question before we run out of time...." - interviewer proceeds to ask multiple questions in order to get a singular answer to all of them, talk over Professor Dawkins when answers are attempted to be given, oh and also the interviewer wastes time allotted, just as he had done throughout the interview. Interviewer of the year clearly...*rolls eyes*
This comment makes me think. You're right. It isn't self-evident that the naturalistic view is the right one. But it's the only one we can find evidence for at the moment. Whether or not there is more to this universe is something we don't know yet, so we have no good reason to just claim there's more, though of course any supernatural dimension might very well exist.
I am uncle of 8 children who believe all that god crap. It is painfull to watch them being taught ignorance, but they are smart and will find out the truth eventually. i`ll give them some hints.
I completely agree with him. A great mind and a beacon of light. He can be a prophet to any religion that i can follow. And good thing we already know is that he would never do such a thing.
"We should differentiate the admiration toward the Christian-oriented art from what is true or false. I DO care about what is true...." Richard's last statement completely resonated with me. ( Q: Why the interviewer didn't take him to his point earlier? while he is hasty enough to speak over him too often even in this already short-cut clip !!.)
@@topologyrob Creationism is pig ignorance so to highlight that shows he is informed, has better answers based on scientific facts and simply showing how shallow, illogical and stupid such people like that are.
@@topologyrob No. I have read a number of his books and watched lots of his lectures, and he is spot on in his assessments. I can see from some of your other comments that you say you've outgrown atheism. I suppose people like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Ricky Gervas and the late Christopher Hitchens would be a threat to your way of thinking. I prefer to take the side of scientific fact rather than mythical stories, which is all what religion is. It's all nonsense. If you want to believe in something then fine, but don't tell the rest of us what to think when we can se the evidence for ourselves as to what is real. Dawkins is very clear in that he doesn't agree with the idea of indoctrinating people, especially children. It is however important that they learn the truth and appreciate what is real and beautiful about the world and universe at large how we got here etc... I think Dawkins has a better grasp of what religion is than most of these dedicated to what ever faith they have.
Robert Davidson Not confuses at all. Ex-atheists are just people who have been conned by a snake oil salesman. Atheism is on the rise and most of Europe at least is turning more non religious. Most of Icelanders under the age of 25 don’t believe in God.
I would like that Richard Dawkins would live forever. But it is a fact of life that that is impossible. As for now he is for me a hero to advertise science as the searcher for truth. Who stands next to him and is a follow upper when he is not more able to put all this energie in reasoning through science the facts of life? However as for now : Stay healthy and stay alive and be with us for a long, long time, Richard Dawkins!!
what is there to be in doubt about? religion was born out of fear and for the need to explain thing we didnt understand back then. religion has outlived its use for to long already.
Although the problems in Northern Ireland could be traced back to Religious intolerance hundreds of years ago It is not the main reason for the Community tensions today. The fact is that there are people who want to be British and maintain the Union or Irish and reunite Ireland. There is also a large number of people who might accept either outcome. If everyone could suddenly be transformed into Atheists tomorrow it would not make any difference - it is all about politics and identity. Religion is just a lazy way of identifying which group they belong to and is not always accurate. Did you know that one of the founding members of the Provisional IRA in the 1970's was a Protestant as mentioned in the recent Spotlight on the Troubles series. Also many people in NI as elsewhere in these islands have no religion but still have political views.
Does that mean that there is no predictive value in knowing someone's religious beliefs if you are trying to ascertain their attitude to Union for example ? It's clearly not all about politics and identity, unless you include which religion the children have been indoctrinated in as a part of that "identity". I do understand what you are saying, the old joke about an atheist being asked at a roadblock "But are you a Protestant or a Catholic atheist ?" holds true.
AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible Yes of course there are some Religious bigots who just hate “themmuns” but I don’t think they would go out and kill some because of it. Imagine if a British reporter were to say “today in Northern Ireland there was rioting between British and Irish youths”. That would mean that they were associated in some way with one side. So instead it has become standard to distance themselves by identifying the two sides as Protestant and Catholic or Unionist and Nationalist. The subtext is that no one in N Ireland is really British. Now I know many will say that is true as they were not born in Great Britain but if you ask any Unionist most will say they are British.
@@petercarroll9167 Last bit was cut off. From this distance (NZ), it really does seem that religion is central to the conflict. "Papists", "kneelers". marching, colours such as Orange etc, but what Dawkins is pointing out is that continuing to indoctrinate children with a particular religion is counter productive to peace. The reason is that these two religions do indeed make conflicting existential claims. If the children could be educated in the facts, that there is no evidence for any theistic stance, this would remove barriers and promote peace. I know I don't speak from a deep knowledge about Irish History, but I did watch many episodes of "The Irish RM". I recall having a brief but heated discussion with supporters on an Lions Tour, (Now called The British and Irish Lions), when I pointed out that Ireland is one of the British Isles, so there was really no need to specify them separately from Britain.
AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible Yes you need to be careful what you say, sometimes it’s best to say nothing. I agree that religion should not be forced on children as truth and it would be better if we did not have marches etc which just serve to antagonise the other side. Perhaps for some religion is more important than national identity. It would certainly be easier to accommodate a Protestant faith in a United Ireland than a British identity but its very complicated. You are lucky that you live in NZ - such a beautiful country.
I never said I hold the BBC in high regard. The point I was making was that this interviewer is so bad - and his questions so leading and poorly researched - that even the BBC could and should be doing better
The fact that there's is tons of cctv footage (much of it available on you tube) of shoplifters stealing all sorts of things from anywhere and everywhere proves that in fact the eye in the sky deters very few shoplifters ,speeding motorists uninsured drivers any many other law breakers. Many law breakers work on the basis that they won't get caught (sometimes that enhances the thrill) and often don't get caught, and on the odd occasion that they do will see the punishment as par for the course. The eye in the sky, be it your god or a cctv camera only works on people who were unlikely to commit crime in the first place. I also agree that the interviewer one of newsnight's worst imo seemed to be trying (all be it meekly) to expose Dawkins as Islamophobic or a heretic or something. It wasn't a great interview but at least it opens up the discussion. BTW is it true the pope doesn't believe in Adam and Eve, does he believe in Noah then or Samson? Does he get to pick and choose which parts are "true " and which aren't ? I suppose he believes in Jesus right ?
The interviewer's tactics here are pretty clear. He treats Dawkins as if he thinks and does things only for emotional, psychological reasons rather than for logical reasons based on very simple ethics that most of us already understand. This is to undermine the reasons Dawkins has. The interviewer drags out his questions far too long and repeats them then interrupts Dawkins frequently, to minimise the amount of time Dawkins can spend giving clear and complete explanations. He cherry picks quotes out of context with 'you yourself say' in order to create the impression that Dawkins's position is inherently contradictory. He keeps up a calm, almost gentle tone of voice and non-threatening body language while asking questions that imply a very low opinion of the book and of Dawkins, which is insulting. This is, sadly, typical BBC interviewing but odd considering that Mark Urban writes books about military history and must know that many wars have a religious element.
Urban is deliberately trying to ignore Dawkins’s answers and asks him completely unrelated/prescripted questions. I agree with Dawkins, children shouldn’t be labelled as followers of a religion and indoctrinated by religious dogma. To remind to Urban: dogma and truth are two completely different things.
Yes! 100x YES! I am sick our religion in schools my son was sent home with an illustrated booklet about the Easter story, it was presented as fact, they were read stories and given fun games to play and chocolate to eat, I consider this indoctrination, it's bad enough parents get to do it unopposed, but making it a part of school mean s they are either subject to it against your wishes or excluded and singled out if you ask they be removed, even then classrooms are unlikely to be free from it, I remember being shouted at in primary school for criticizing god and religion, I was a third generation atheist, so it wasn't condoned by my parents, or theirs, I remember in high school being threatened with expulsion on the grounds of racism, crime? I told the foreign muslim girl I didn't believe in God when asked about religion, to which she replied I was going to hell, I was insensitive for not "respecting her beliefs" her gleefully telling me how she believes I deserve eternal torture, not a concern. It's backwards, teach them critical thinking and ban any positive discussion of religion in classrooms, correct kids when they recite parental religious indoctrination as fact and explain that it is a myth with no basis in reality! Since the burden of proof is on the religion, it is not indoctrination! If your god wants to be featured in class, then he will present reasonable physical evidence! Books written or dictated by crazy people who wander in desserts, take drugs and/or are known paedophiles and slave be owners are NOT evidence, nor is Jesus's face appearing on your morning toast or any feeling you have!
@Aaron Mason If there is any agenda to his work it is that facts matter and that they are more important than superstitions. And that we should base our decisions and policies on those facts.
Children should not be brainwashed into religions in the first place, but obviously those who have suffered this form of mental child abuse should be assisted in deprogramming.
It's a shame that the interviewer clearly had a specific slant in the way in which questions were proposed to Richard Dawkins, however Dawkins handled them with grace, as always. Keep on the good fight!
Adam and Eve is a parable of metaphors. “Adam” translated into English, is “A man.” - Where we (all men) post puberty and adolescence, are Adam (a man) we have therefore changed. We are no longer that young innocent and harmless child of whom we once were. We now have many dishonest and (secretive) immoral thoughts; the demons within us (of which can be extreme) where all such thoughts can lead us into any amount of unruly “Temptation”, also called Satan, the Devil or Lucifer etc. - We have become the “Talking snake” of life. Where “Eve” means “Life.” But we are blind and cannot see ourselves for what we have become… ‘In truth, I tell you, unless a man has been born over again he cannot see the kingdom of God.’ ‘But how is it possible’, said Nicodemus, ‘for a man to be born when he is old? Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time and be born?’ Jesus answered, ‘In truth I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and spirit. Flesh can give birth to only flesh; it is spirit that gives birth to spirit. You ought not to be surprised, then, when I tell you that you must be born over again.’ - (at John 3: 3-7) - “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (Jesus, at John 4: 24) - “In truth I tell you, anyone who gives heed to what I say and puts his trust in him who sent me, has hold of eternal life and does not come up for judgement, but has already passed from death to life.” - (at John 5: 24) - “Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (at Matthew 7: 15-16) - “Any plant that is not of my heavenly Father’s planting will be rooted up. Leave them alone; they are blind guides, and if one blind man guides another they will both fall into the ditch.” - (Matthew 15: 13-14) - “Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) - “I am the light of the world. No follower of mine shall wander in the dark; he shall have the light of life.” - (Jesus, at John 8: 12) - “Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…” - (Matthew 24: 4) - “Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) - “You shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” - (John 8: 32) - “When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you. In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard. Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him. This is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven, Give us today our daily bread, Forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us. And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one. For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever. Amen. For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Matthew 6: 6-15) - “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) - “Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) - “Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets. Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 12-14) - “I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage. The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 9-10) - “I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) - “I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) - “Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) - “I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) - “The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) - “Though many are called, few are chosen.” - (Matthew 22: 14) - “An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself. Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) - “There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) - "Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) - “However, when he comes who is the Spirit of truth; he will guide you into all the truth.” - (John 16: 13) - “My task is to bear witness to the truth. For this I was born; for this I came into the world, and all who are not deaf to truth listen to my voice.” - (John 18: 37) - Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Thursday the 6th of August, 2020: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you.
Rather he gets frustrated as his position is based on emotions and not evidence. He has zero evidence for atheism and zero evidence for macro-evolution...only circular reasoning and fantasy.
Zayd Depaor imagine saying that NOT believing in something...that HAS no evidence....needs evidence. Lmao, grow up and stop playing with the fairies. He's very explicitly repeatedly explained the blatant contradictions, blatant lies and completely impossible (according to the bibles, Torah, Quran definitions) of god. What is your fucking evidence? Lmao fucking idiot.
Twat He says he has problems with promoting falsehoods to children, but he doesn’t say they shouldn’t be taught the theory of evolution, child abuse is teaching children they were born in the wrong body. He sounds posh and Intelligent but he’s a hypocrite
@@zephergaming4437 the theory of evolution has been proven. We've literally fucking studied and seen evolution of mosquitos into different species that can't interbreed. That's fucking evolution. Its proven. And when has he ever suggested forcing trans genderism being taught?
@@twat240 Funny you say it has been proven when science doesn't even accept the concept of proof. I guess you have to try and add false authority to something you have social and emotional motives for promoting right? A case of turning your erroneous religion of evolution and atheism into a protected religion. I guess you only became aware of Dawkins recently, I have been refuting his silly statements since before you were born probably. He still has no evidence, but plenty of emotions and frustrations, just like his fan club.
The best ever argument against religion, comes from the Lord God and through the voice of Jesus Immanuel. When he already warned us against religion almost 2,000 years ago! - We learn through him that all religions, including Christianity, are led by only fake prophets! He was sent to teach you and me and all of us, just how to pray to God (safely in the secret place) and how we must always live our lives, for the sake of true peace and humanity… “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.” - (Jesus Immanuel, at Matthew 4: 19) - “God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (at John 4: 24) - With regard to all the priests and preachers of all religions that are now rife among us, he said this: “Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (at Matthew 7: 15-16) - “Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) - “The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 10) - “Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…” - (Matthew 24: 4) - “Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) - “I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) - “When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you. In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard. Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him. This is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven, Give us today our daily bread, And forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us. And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one. For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever. Amen. For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Matthew 6: 6-15) - “Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) - “Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) - “Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets. Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 11-12) - “I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage.” - (John 10: 9) - “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” - (Matthew 7: 21) - “I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) - “I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) - “Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) - “The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) - “Though many are called, few are chosen,” - (Matthew 22: 14) - “An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself. Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) - “There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) - "Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) - “When he comes who is the Spirit of truth, he will guide you into all the truth.” - (John 16: 13) - “Teach them to observe all that I have commanded you. And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time.” (Matthew 28: 20) - “One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) - “For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) - Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Wednesday the 18th of September, 2019: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you.
I like Mr Dawkins coz he seems sincere. I know some people see him as evil and anti religious but i think i understand him. The thing most people don't realize is that too many of our own religious leaders claim to know things which they have no clue about, which means they are blatant liars and attention seekers. It doesn't matter which religion, coz all have that. I would really love to have a conversation with him coz i truly believe that i can prove a whole lot of things. Not by manipulation and deceit, just facts and a slight change of perspective. I hope i get the chance.
i think he has already debated many people like you and his mind has not been changed. i dont think youd have anything new for him. but yea i do agree with the first part of your reply
@@Killerskillz Can you read and do you understand words? If you can, please tell me whats the difference between a conversation and a debate. And when you realize how stupid you are, il be expecting an apology
Tabrez Moorad u mad? Debate converse there’s no difference. You said your goal was to prove religion or your believe or something to him. I think many people like you have already tried. Don’t know how u think you’re any different
Children should be taught philosophy, logic, fallacies, world religions and the history of con artists, sex crimes in churches/cults and religious wars. Then, they will drop religions on their own.
your point being..? evolution is exactly that, a *THEORY in the scientific sense- which means it's been postulated according to the scientific method. that doesn't make it any less true, because it is based on heaps of evidence. ...that's not to say the interviewer is worth the oxygen he's consuming.
@@unexampled oh dear...The only reason the interview stated Thorey was to try and undermind it and even to try and put it on the same level as religion. The only people labeling it as a thorey are the ones trying to defend a myth or feelings. This for obvious reasons needs to be shot down ever time...."My point being" as you put it.
@@neotrio5615 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_theory#Theory i think this section explains it better than i could in a few words. the word 'theory' in the scientific sense has a much stricter meaning than it does in daily language, so imo it's not used improperly by the interviewer. my guess is he knows the difference between that and something like flat earth "theory"... i mean, you could be right. but i'm not convinced that he's using it with malicious intent. he doesn't pause on the word, mentions Dawkins' love of science and is quick to move on to his question. the bigger problem i see is his choice of questions, the way he spins them and his weird off-putting attitude. on a sidenote: how do you manage to keep spelling _theory_ so wrong- even after editing your messages..?
Dawkins is a manipulative snake. It turns out that the LGBTQ Community and their Story Hours are the child abusers and child groomers who persecute Christian who fight this agenda. Atheists helped the LGBTQ in the mess we are all in, only because the Bible is against everything they stand for.
On the contrary it is unscientific story telling, atheism masquerading as science with zero application and value to genuine biology...If you want to know the biological features of an organism, you observe them and test them, you don't invent stories about millions of years ago.
@@ZaydDepaor this guy has a PhD in biology from Oxford university. He knows VERY well about science and evolution, and has contributed unprecedented studies helping society You have...? Weak high school grades?
@@twat240 Rather has dedicated his life to calling to atheism...which apart from having zero evidence or reason to support it, produces NO SYSTEM, NO LAWS, NO MORALITY, NO PHILOSOPHY and NO IDEOLOGY so is totally useless in governing society and provides no benefit. He also admits he can't prove it....So he has spent a life calling to nothing, based on nothing to achieve nothing...so very smart indeed, as evidenced by followers such as you.
@@ZaydDepaor its proven. Very hypocritical that you're saying atheism isn't proven. Literally all atheism is, is not believing in something until there is evidence. The Bible has many blatant contradictions according to the rules and boundaries it itself defines. Thus it is NOT evidence of anything. It is a proven impossible book, by its own definitions of reality. Atheism doesn't need to, or ever claims to have to, be proven. Atheism doesn't claim to know EVERYTHING. Its the opposite. Atheism is believing when there's evidence. Believing there's no god, as there is no PROOF. It isn't saying god CANNOT exist - it's saying there's no evidence to SAY god CAN exist. It doesn't need to be proven.. Whereas theism claims very clearly to know the answers to life - ALL of them. And it has been contradicted many times, and is the one that needs answers. It is the one CLAIMING to have answers that needs to provide proof. Not the other way around. Suggesting otherwise is absurd.
@@twat240 You don't even understand the definition and etymology of the word you have based your life on. THEOS.... THEISM....THEO... 'A'....look up agnostic, atheism. you are confused with skepticism. Because you are a youngster you have no experience of the earlier usage of 'atheism' as opposed to 'agnosticism' The evidence for God is everywhere and on many levels, it is just you are in denial about it and don't understand it. Your failure to understand or recognize decisive proof doesn't mean it is absent.
Whether you believe in religion or not, it has been shown to provide huge consolation to people at times of repression and suffering.One only has to think of the role of the Catholic church in Poland when it was a satellite of the Soviet Uniion
@Retropolis If you murder someone in Islam, you will get the death penalty (and even far worse punishment on Judgement Day/Hell) not 'We will forgive you since you apologize only'. There are payments/repentance need to be done if you wronged someone else so its not just apology that will get God to enter you into heaven. In Islam, if someone is murdered, that person will get justice in the afterlife regardless whether the murderer apologizes or not. And lastly, an all forgiving God would forgive a person whose sins were to reach the skies. But a God that is not merciful or forgiving, would not forgive someone for the same amount of sins which then creates the problem of 'why would I accept a God that have a hard time or doubtful in forgiving people?'
Genesis 1: 14 says, the stars shall be for signs... Google, the Northern Cross, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube! Psalms 75: 6 is saying...North is where exaltation comes from God, using the stars as signs! I know how to read Paleo-Semitic Hebrew! Hence, the Northern Cross, which is the letter, "tau" is near the North Star! One variant is shaped like a fish! Evolution can't put a huge cross near the North Star! God can! There are about 70 branches of the Semitic alphabet!
@Retropolis Rather your emotions tell you that. Plenty of what the Bible speaks about is sound and applied today, but you have not read it in depth and not understood it, as you have emotional means of making decisions. And something carrying an error doesn't mean the error was always there, otherwise you will have to reject your science too.
Excellent point from Dawkins, religion has no place in schools. Schools are places where children should learn things that are true. Let children choose between cartoons and religion outside of schools and keep education for preparing children to live in the world.
@J. Harris. The myth of human equality? Sorry you are going to have to explain that. Are you advocating a return to government approved slavery? Perhaps the abolishion of healthcare? Maybe the removal of unemployment benefits? Or maybe the return of women being viewed as property? I don't know what you mean, but what ever it is it sounds rather unenlightened and dangerous.
@@AlanWattResistance is it? The only time most people go to Church is for weddings and funerals. Being Christian is just just another badge these days, very few practice or believe so why bother filling children's heads with nonsense at a time they should be learning valuable skills and knowledge.
@@Jimmy4video Culture and heritage exist as a seperate entity from skills and knowledge, so it's not an either-or scenario. No one is taught faith over reason. Faith is only for the belief in God and the afterlife, nothing else. Remove Christianity and what do you replace it with that represents English culture and heritage?
@@AlanWattResistance That boat has sailed long ago. English culture and heritage? Don't make me laugh. Kids grow up in front of phones watching other people play video games. There's the country lines phenomenon. So what's English culture these days? People getting pissed in the pub, going back and forth to the bookies? Religion didn't stop the degradation of English culture all it does is make people susceptible to taking on beliefs without rationally questioning them.
Richard Dawkins gives clear and educated answers, I wish the journalist could give educated questions. No one should be promoting scientific falsehoods .
Let's separate the superstition in religion from the ethics on the one hand and the politics on the other. As far as I'm concerned there is considerable ethical wisdom - albeit in one religion more than the other - in religion, unless it becomes a set of irrational rules one has to adhere to (dress codes, dietary rules, the supposed inferiority of women, circumcision, etc.). As for politics, as soon as a large group of people (men, mainly) get together and organize themselves, politics polutes the air almost immediately. Science is not alll that different, allthough some would love to believe that the logical argument always wins in the end (happy ending). In that case we could argue that scientific paradigmas sometimes seem to have the same political implications as religious dogmas, in determining who gets research funds, managerial power in universities and so on. There was a series on the BBC - I thought it was in the nineties, called "Heretics" that showed how dissidents in science were treated by their learned collegues, being all but 'excommunicated' by them, while in some cases being right (If I recall correctly there was this Australian MD who discovered helicobacter pylori and the correct treatment, yet being shunned by scientists). In short, sometimes zealous belief in the power of science tends to have orthodox religious traits. What is regarded as superstition could (maybe should) be perceived as a set of metaphors by which moral lessons were being taught, not as explanatory myths or absolute explanations. I've always remembered one particular sentence (soory, don't know who said it and where) in the Bible that says: "Explore everything and conserve (only) the good." Just dismissing everything about religion as superstition is selling some aspects of religion short. And then there's the matter of the transcendent, which is seemingly outrageous and ridiculous. Well, if we look at present assumptions in quantum physics, we can see that what is deemed insane may sometimes hold some truth, so let's not dismiss it alltogether. Sometimes perception of truth is limited by our imagination.
so he mentions a god watching you, so if you steal , he is watching...there is also repentance, and compassion, and forgiveness in faith in god. but he says, god watching so you don t steal is ignoble. i wonder if have a cop, if you steal,then a judge , judging you and putting you in jail, ignoble as well, or may act as a deterent. perhaps we should get rid of cops, judges and jails based on his most elevated logic.
People of religion, try to convert others, during periods of vulnerability. During childhood, homelessness, sickness, grief, war, natural disaster, at food banks etc. We currently have police checks for people coming into contact with the vulnerable. Good if this could be extended to prevent churches selling themselves to the vulnerable. Science, financial support and a genuine friendly face needs to be there first.
I used to have such a high opinion of the BBC. Just disappointing. Great to see Richard though, and enjoyed his patient and well reasoned replies to the banal and biased questions! Why are we still arguing about this -the enlightenment and 'age of reason' occurred several centuries ago!
"I have a problem with anyone who promotes scientific falsehoods to children." My HERO.
I would guess every single Christian in the country agrees with this statement.
I have a particular problem with those who teach abiogenesis is the explanation of how life began on earth. This is a huge scientific falsehood.
the thing is religion is not science, this is something he seems to not understand.
@@stevejames5863 I would argue the opposite: that he does, in fact, understand that religion is not science. That is exactly why he is bothered by religious believers treating their theology as a replacement for science and thus misleading children about what is true scientifically and what is not.
@@harmonium8198 most christains don t believe that the earth is some 6000 years old. a very small percentage of people and christains believe this. when they go to church, they don t expect an exam on biology or physics. he uses the most extreme christains, because he has an agenda. so he is manipulating you. the bible then is mostly stories, most of them have a moral lesson, or a spiritual teaching. again, you are right it is not science. bishop usher, thought up the world was 6000 odd years old, and people hang on to it like crazy. i mean atheists do, because it s not true....he s one guy, in the middle ages.. if anything, genisis, has some accuracy as to the big bang, ie god said , let their be light, etc..but most christains see genisis as more symbolic. and ok yeah i agree, der r sum krstinz, in da southern states....guess what, thats all he talks about. there are many other christains outside of the bible belt, who don t take the bible as literally as they do. but since other christains think they can be one...stupid or ignorant, or two...way to literal or extreme...he ll hide that also. i m a christain, i know many christains who think bible belt christains can be illogical, too severe, even racist, and even not talk the bible literally, they actually take the moral aspects out of context, esp if they are severe capitialsts , racists, and cruel to the poor.....has he talked about the billion s of christains who disagree with the central themes and extremism of the bible belt? the millions upon millions who do think evolution is probably valid? nope. do you know why? that would ruin the stronghold arguement he has...christains are stupid, deluded, and somewhat evil...if he talks about all kinds of other christains, many...many pillars of communities, and some very bright, anglicans, various catholics, some possible lutherans, who btw have same sex marriages, united church goers are liberal, and among the above, except catholic, actually have same sex marriages.
you see there are many types of christains... but , shhhh he thinks all christains are those in the bible belt.
if he added the rest, his arguement would be squashed.
How is is SCIENTIFIC to state categorically the IMPOSSIBILITY of God existing??.- He wouldn't be much of a God if you could "FORCE" Him to reveal Himself....in any case He DID reveal Himself - 2000 years ago when He chose to come into His universe as a human being.....like it or not, you HAVE to deal with the historical reality of JESUS CHRIST....
Interviewer asks rather stupid questions while talking past Dawkins answers.
@Markus Tanbeck no he was trying to challenge his views. It's what a good interviewer (politically) always does. The reason it was weak us because he clearly didn't believe what he was saying.
Too many people believe that the stance taken by interviewers represent actual belief and opinions. Good interviewers will play devils advocate and take the opposing stance to the person they interview to challenge what is being said.
Omniscient This style of interview is perfectly normal in the UK - it doesn't reflect the interviewers personal view. He doesn't give any slack because his role is devils advocate, therefore he wants to challenge Richard's position.
Athiests are polytheists in Lordship as they took atoms and stardust as creators, thus making them worse than idolaters in shirk (polytheism). Because the idolater doesnt believe that his inanimate idol created the world, let alone carved itself. But athiests believe that the atoms of the idol did. And they have a large Hadron collider trying to figure out how their atom god did it.
And they think they are ape mammals, awaiting to vanish into those particle gods of theirs once their despair kicks in. Thus no one ever had the truth, nor was anything right or wrong to them. The cannibal vanishes with his victims, and they with everyone they agreed and disagreed with. Thus doing good was useless as it eventually becomes equal with the evil, and the evil justified, as it becomes equal with the good. And thus athiesm is very dangerous for humans in this life.
They have no Jizyah or protection status in Islam. And it is not lawful to marry their women, or eat the meat they slaughter, same as pagans.
@Markus Tanbeck Mark Urban isn't an Islamist. Don't know where you got that idea from...
The interviewer was a disappointment.
It’s actually quite shameful, an opportunity to teach us all something from a great mind squandered to try to drum up some controversy and hope it gets some views on RUclips
PrettyNeckslashes And with that nonsense you show yourself to be a poor specimen of humanity....get a life.
A Disappointment? It's the BBC what were you expecting? I was not surprised at all.
PrettyNeckslashes That’s funny bro....but we both know who the bigot is here 🤔😄
Who The Hell Is Harvy You’re confusing the Beeb with a joke US ‘news’ outlet bro....but no, we have REAL news stations in the UK and the BBC is one of the best, globally respected.
"Would you respect the choice of a flat-earther??"
(Interviewer moves right along)
LOL.
This statement shows the ignorance of Dawkins. There is no evidence which supports a flat earth yet there is overwhelming evidence for the biblical God.
Hermaeus Mora
Saying there is no evidence for God does not make you correct.
In fact the man widely regarded as the greatest legal mind who ever lived whose profession it is to decide what constitutes as evidence disagrees with you. (Professor Simon Greenleaf).
What qualifications do you possess which gives you a greater understanding of evidence than he does which would allow your assertion to be taken seriously?
@Not the real Tupac
Can I ask your qualifications in the relevant topics here which would give you reasonable authority to tell the greatest legal mind who ever lived that he does not know what evidence is?
Do you realise that just because thinking there is no evidence for God does not make you right?
The fact that there is evidence for God proves you wrong.
From above, the earth does look like a circle stupid.
You misinterpret and cherry pick the verses.
This is being dishonest.
@Not the real Tupac
Yes attitudes change over time.
The evidence Greenleaf used doesn't.
The evidence Greenleaf used to draw his conclusion is exactly the same then as it is now.
If anything the same evidence has even greater strength now due to recent archeological discoveries.
So again, what experience and qualifications do you possess which gives you authority to claim the world's greatest legal mind is wrong about what does and does not constitute as evidence?
I can answer for you.
None! You have no reasonable authority to claim Greenleaf doesn't know what he is talking about.
Only your bias leads you to believe your own unsupported view.
As for Isaiah 40 22, that was metaphorically written.
But maybe your not clever enough to realise that either and you believe it is an actual 10 billion person tent that we are supposed to be living in.
@Not the real Tupac
Sorry but you have not given a suitable reason to believe that professor Greenleaf was wrong.
You provided no evidence that the evidence Greenleaf used to reach is conclusion was not reliable.
As I said in my previous reply, it is evident that it is only your bias which leads you to believe he was wrong as the evidence strongly suggests otherwise.
Same old questions for Richard Dawkins.
Yes, it's getting really tedious. In 2019 it is well past time to STOP:
1. proposing belief in fairy tales for adults as a way to ease emotional pain
2. proposing belief in a god as a celestial cop
3. suggesting we are being rude to Muslims because we don't respect iron age educational systems
4. labelling children according to the belief system of their parents
Catch up Mark Urban - you're 20 years behind, like the rest of the happy Newsnight team.
Get rid of this interviewer. Not done his homework.
He's the traffic guy filling in.
Great point.
You’re in the presence of one of the greatest evolutionary biologists and all you have is a bunch of rinsed, repeated questions. Disappointing.
Maybe Dawkins needs to stop banging on about God and return to science, then maybe the questions will get more sophisticated.
"greatest evolutionary biologist" he has not written a scientific paper for like forever. Many in the scientific community find his tirades against religion embarrassing
Ikbal Lalli I know you like to think that as if scientists even believe in god anyway
No he isn’t. He’s an ass clown. He makes sooooo many mistakes in his non-scientific, opinion based book; the God Delusion. He has zero understanding of geology and doesn’t know why mountains are important, makes MANY mistakes when talking about fossils and rocks, and doesn’t know that the sequencing of the human genome has proven that all human beings are related which is what the allegorical creation account explains. I bet you think Bill Nye is a great scientist too even though he’s not a real scientist
being famous does not make him on the greatest scientists, you have advance the field in some way, and he hasn't done that. He seems like an atheist fanatic.
When I listen to Richard Dawkins it's like music to my ears
@@topologyrob
😂 lmao
One of the most unpleasant influences in the new atheism Dawkins is an annoyance to many British scientists and is panned vociferously on questionnaires that do not even mention him....
"Though Dawkins wasn’t a part of the interview process, and researchers didn’t ask about him, 48 of the 137 British scientists they spoke to mentioned Dawkins. Of those 48 that referenced him, 80 per cent said they thought that Dawkins misrepresents science and scientists in his books and public speeches, according to the study by Rice University, Texas."
See The Independent (Monday 31 October 2016 16:53).
2007 wants it's interview back.
Ive seen most of Mr Richard Dawkins debates and lectures, and I feel most of the interviewers ask the same questions over and over again. Even Mr Richard would be thinking of how to answer it differently. I wished the interviewers would do their research before conducting such interviews. Its waste of time if the agenda repeats.
Yea..shame...he spends his days questioning repeatedly with many obtuse words contrary to 'life' Good thing death does its due diligence...It has the last word with no contrary...for Dawkins.
@@nevig6557 At least he doesnt spend his days shaking his hands at the sky
@@osmomosis9216 You must be watchin' the Simpsons😊
How does Dawkins not get tired of hearing the same questions he's heard a thousand times before.
@@topologyrob I'm sure there'd be plenty people discovering Dawkins through these videos. I'd say it's totally worth it.
@@topologyrob do not agree at all. But ok. Your opinion.
Interviewer DESPERATELY trying to play Devil's Advocate...
Prof Dawkins, as ever, keeping his dignity...
Shame..it must be terrible to know the Devil's Advocate and imagine you flee from any belief in God 😂😂
Nevi Gabriel just checking.... you what the phrase ‘to play devil’s advocate’ means? I’m not sure I understand your reply....
@@mikusguitarius Sure I know what it means. ..It is based in "religious roots"...and to use it, you acknowledge "existence of the Devil and God"..otherwise you could probably say Voldemort's Advocate. .which is more 'fictional based' expression.
You can find that in general religious connotations in most dictionaries...unless you want to redefine it's roots to self suit.
Nevi Gabriel Devil’s Advocate: noun, a person who advocates an opposing or unpopular cause for the sake of argument or to expose it to a thorough examination.
@@nevig6557 Just saying 'devil's advocate' doesn't mean you have to be believe the devil exists: NASA scientists and astronauts say God Speed on the radio to mean good luck, doesn't mean they believe god is speeding them along to safety.
Richard Dawkins is a brilliant batsman for the team of reason, batting away every old cliche of ignorance that is pitched at him again and again. Thank you Richard.
"Richard Dawkins is a brilliant batsman for the team of reason".
Lol.
All Dawkins is good at is being well spoken and blinding people with nonsense.
For example, Dawkins gives credibility to the untestable, unproveable multiverse theory!
He calls it an "elegant theory" which he has "time for" even though it is science fiction nonsense.
I rest my case.
It concerns me that we reserve spaces for religious figures in our law making. If your gonna play it that way, I want scientists of all fields and teachers and people of all fields there too.
Hear hear!
@Retropolis I don't think it does? In the UK? I'm fairly certain we've got it particularly well, for the most part.
@Retropolis there are 26 church of England bishops and archbishops that sit in and have a vote in the House of Lord's. Some form of ancient laws. Albeit in the second house, I think it's a disgrace that they're there and possibly giving guidance and moral direction, though why their morals I have no idea why
Science deals with what is, not about what ought to be done.
@@twat240 What about the Lords? Most of them are Bishops...
Children should be taught to think and think critically.
Thank you!
What about Jesus?
If children were thinking critically they would certainly reject the cult of atheism and evolution, which don't stand up to reason at all.
Anthony Burke so ban religion in school. But allow them to create and believe what they want, without forceful teaching by schools. They can still go to Mosque, Church, etc. to learn religion as fact.
And schools will always teach ABOUT religion and what's believed - its whether they are taught them as a fact like evolution is.
Like your mother
it's inconceivable that in 2019 Dawkins has still to put up with such idiotic questions.
It's laughably very conceivable that you don't know just '2019' IS the unspoken "anno Domini nostri Jesu Christi" 😂😁😃...and we still have to put up with idiots like you.
@@nevig6557 who told you that, Jesus himself?
@@FrancescoDiMauro Actually it's historically Dionysius Exiguus who invented Anno Domini 'years'..but regardless of that.. the point is that every Atheist under the sun mentioning a 'year' like you do acknowledges "Jesus" unwittingly. That makes "you" specifically an idiot of note😂😂 Sorry to give you that bad news..lol..but your identity and birth documents are dated. When you manage to delete and vaporize all that..I'll stop laughing. Good luck...your time starts.......now😂😂
@@nevig6557 Oh, I thought there was something special about this year in particular, like he was going to come back or something... must be hard for you to wait, uh?
By the way, you do know that Jesus (the man) was actually born around 4 BC? funny right? Probably you don't, like apparently you've never heard of conventions... Have a nice one, you moron!
@@FrancescoDiMauro Er ..no.."2019" is just the Year of an Idiot...'you'..A.D...but good try deflecting from your stupidity 😂😂
Try not to 'think'..it's not exactly your forte.
Bbc anchors haven't yet 'outgrown' their ignorant questions.
Interviewer was trying to debate😂
Rob Jack and just looked like a fool, in front of an amazing intellect.
Please don't get interviewed by 'uneducated' people!
Poor Adam and Eve ..both denied of childhood !
David Charles Francis Topham de Vere Beauclerk Are you religiously?
What a brilliant enlightened man Richard Dawkins is.
😂😂😂
The God Delusion is really quite arrogant and assumes that all Gods are abrahamic, and also that atheism is naturally correct. It doesn’t set out to disprove God, it aims to set out to assume God doesn’t exist and spit in the face of religious people.
@@mawgans7470 There is no need to disprove God. The claim of God's existence is made by religious people. As atheists we simply reject those claims, as we don't find them convincing enough.
Euan MacLennan The aim of the God Delusion, as implied by the title, is to prove that believing in God is delusional. There is no point to having a 400-or so page rant about how delusional humans are without why they are delusional. And, whilst I’m a de facto theist, I believe that neither side can be proven true or false, hence why burden really falls on either side. Both sides are making claims that draw away from the most truthful claim, which is ‘I don’t know’.
Now, with a climate-change denier, or a flat-earther, we know (as in we have used scientific methods to reach the conclusion that) that the earth is spherical and climate change exists. So it is logical to assume that the burden of proof falls on climate change deniers or flat earthers, because they are making claims which are in opposition to common knowledge.
Really, when it comes to God, there is no such thing as ‘common knowledge’.
Now, that’s what we really mean when we talk about ‘burden of proof’, because if it did work as ‘you are claiming something exists, which means you must justify it’, then theoretically there would be no need to ask holocaust deniers or climate-change deniers for their proof, because they are literally assuming nothing is there, whilst somebody is claiming there is. But we don’t do that - because these two groups contradict common knowledge, we question them for their proof, rather than those who believe the holocaust did happen and climate change is a thing.
@@mawgans7470 I don't think your analogy works. Yes climate deniers are believing in the non-existence of something - however one would expect certain factors to be the case in a world without climate change - eg no temperature changes year on year which one could demonstrate. And you don't understand what an atheist is. I'm not saying god doesn't exist & neither is dawkins. We reject claims of God due to poor evidence. That doesn't mean we're saying god doesn't exist, no one knows if he does. It's just the evidence for his existence is nonexistent. So it seems unlikely to me that a God exists.
Just substitute a few words and hear the gibberish is like this:
Dawkins "Many uneducated people in the US were sold debt without realising the consequences"
Journo "Why do you pick on people who have debt and say they are uneducated?"
Dawkins "I didn't say that'
Journo : "Yes but, what have you got against Americans?"
Dawkins: "Err... WTF?!"
Religious schools should be replaced with secular schools. Children need to be taught to question religion and think for themselves.
"One last question before we run out of time...." - interviewer proceeds to ask multiple questions in order to get a singular answer to all of them, talk over Professor Dawkins when answers are attempted to be given, oh and also the interviewer wastes time allotted, just as he had done throughout the interview. Interviewer of the year clearly...*rolls eyes*
If schools are going to teach religion as a serious subject, then they should not ignore astrology, witchcraft and alchemy as serious subjects too.
Few people would disagree that we ought to aim for truth, but it is not self-evident that the truth is on the side of a mechanical view of the world.
This comment makes me think. You're right. It isn't self-evident that the naturalistic view is the right one. But it's the only one we can find evidence for at the moment. Whether or not there is more to this universe is something we don't know yet, so we have no good reason to just claim there's more, though of course any supernatural dimension might very well exist.
I am uncle of 8 children who believe all that god crap. It is painfull to watch them being taught ignorance, but they are smart and will find out the truth eventually. i`ll give them some hints.
Well, if you are an uncle...
The interviewer obviously believes Adam and Eve to have been the literal blueprint of humans, and is so offended about Dawkin's claim
Oh for God's sake!!!
I'd believe in Adam and Eve if the science said this was very likely the case, but it doesn't.
If I have children I won't tell them about religion and neither will I baptise them.
That's oppression right there.
I completely agree with him. A great mind and a beacon of light. He can be a prophet to any religion that i can follow. And good thing we already know is that he would never do such a thing.
A lot of journalists are also not very scientifically literate it seems.
Richard Dawkins is a great scientist, I completely agree with what he says,
"We should differentiate the admiration toward the Christian-oriented art from what is true or false. I DO care about what is true...." Richard's last statement completely resonated with me.
( Q: Why the interviewer didn't take him to his point earlier? while he is hasty enough to speak over him too often even in this already short-cut clip !!.)
Richard Dawkins is one of the best debaters out there with regards to religion and makes reporters like this one look very poor.
Robert Davidson Why would a professor of biology need to do that?
@@topologyrob Creationism is pig ignorance so to highlight that shows he is informed, has better answers based on scientific facts and simply showing how shallow, illogical and stupid such people like that are.
@@topologyrob There is no comparison. He is absolutely correct in everything he says.
@@topologyrob No. I have read a number of his books and watched lots of his lectures, and he is spot on in his assessments. I can see from some of your other comments that you say you've outgrown atheism. I suppose people like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Ricky Gervas and the late Christopher Hitchens would be a threat to your way of thinking. I prefer to take the side of scientific fact rather than mythical stories, which is all what religion is. It's all nonsense. If you want to believe in something then fine, but don't tell the rest of us what to think when we can se the evidence for ourselves as to what is real. Dawkins is very clear in that he doesn't agree with the idea of indoctrinating people, especially children. It is however important that they learn the truth and appreciate what is real and beautiful about the world and universe at large how we got here etc... I think Dawkins has a better grasp of what religion is than most of these dedicated to what ever faith they have.
Robert Davidson Not confuses at all. Ex-atheists are just people who have been conned by a snake oil salesman. Atheism is on the rise and most of Europe at least is turning more non religious. Most of Icelanders under the age of 25 don’t believe in God.
"Religious upbringing" can be shortened to "child abuse".
That's right comrade!
You couldn't possibly state that you'll offend the muslims 😂
I would like that Richard Dawkins would live forever. But it is a fact of life that that is impossible. As for now he is for me a hero to advertise science as the searcher for truth. Who stands next to him and is a follow upper when he is not more able to put all this energie in reasoning through science the facts of life?
However as for now : Stay healthy and stay alive and be with us for a long, long time, Richard Dawkins!!
Only Jesus can give eternal life,
not to lying gaslighters like him.
what is there to be in doubt about? religion was born out of fear and for the need to explain thing we didnt understand back then.
religion has outlived its use for to long already.
Religion for many is a life lesson.
Although the problems in Northern Ireland could be traced back to Religious intolerance hundreds of years ago It is not the main reason for the Community tensions today. The fact is that there are people who want to be British and maintain the Union or Irish and reunite Ireland. There is also a large number of people who might accept either outcome. If everyone could suddenly be transformed into Atheists tomorrow it would not make any difference - it is all about politics and identity.
Religion is just a lazy way of identifying which group they belong to and is not always accurate. Did you know that one of the founding members of the Provisional IRA in the 1970's was a Protestant as mentioned in the recent Spotlight on the Troubles series. Also many people in NI as elsewhere in these islands have no religion but still have political views.
Does that mean that there is no predictive value in knowing someone's religious beliefs if you are trying to ascertain their attitude to Union for example ? It's clearly not all about politics and identity, unless you include which religion the children have been indoctrinated in as a part of that "identity".
I do understand what you are saying, the old joke about an atheist being asked at a roadblock "But are you a Protestant or a Catholic atheist ?" holds true.
AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible Yes of course there are some Religious bigots who just hate “themmuns” but I don’t think they would go out and kill some because of it. Imagine if a British reporter were to say “today in Northern Ireland there was rioting between British and Irish youths”. That would mean that they were associated in some way with one side. So instead it has become standard to distance themselves by identifying the two sides as Protestant and Catholic or Unionist and Nationalist. The subtext is that no one in N Ireland is really British. Now I know many will say that is true as they were not born in Great Britain but if you ask any Unionist most will say they are British.
@@petercarroll9167 Last bit was cut off. From this distance (NZ), it really does seem that religion is central to the conflict. "Papists", "kneelers". marching, colours such as Orange etc, but what Dawkins is pointing out is that continuing to indoctrinate children with a particular religion is counter productive to peace. The reason is that these two religions do indeed make conflicting existential claims. If the children could be educated in the facts, that there is no evidence for any theistic stance, this would remove barriers and promote peace. I know I don't speak from a deep knowledge about Irish History, but I did watch many episodes of "The Irish RM".
I recall having a brief but heated discussion with supporters on an Lions Tour, (Now called The British and Irish Lions), when I pointed out that Ireland is one of the British Isles, so there was really no need to specify them separately from Britain.
AsFewFalseThingsAsPossible Yes you need to be careful what you say, sometimes it’s best to say nothing. I agree that religion should not be forced on children as truth and it would be better if we did not have marches etc which just serve to antagonise the other side. Perhaps for some religion is more important than national identity. It would certainly be easier to accommodate a Protestant faith in a United Ireland than a British identity but its very complicated. You are lucky that you live in NZ - such a beautiful country.
@@petercarroll9167 amen to religion imagine no religion only brotherhood of man john lennon
Salute to the great Richard Dawkins!
AllSeeingEye ofGod sorry for this late reply, it just took me that long to read it.
Although I did fall asleep a few times 😴
What an atrocious interviewer - expect much better from the BBC
expect much better from the BBC, really....was that a joke
No joke
I never said I hold the BBC in high regard. The point I was making was that this interviewer is so bad - and his questions so leading and poorly researched - that even the BBC could and should be doing better
It's the fucking BBC. A bunch of government-serving brexiteers and a bunch of false equivalency post-modernists with extreme right wing leanings..
@@Prometheus4096 don't you mean ultra-left leanings? Try getting at the Beeb if you're not pro-Palestinian take-over of Israel.
How to waste Richard Dawkins’ time?
Do exactly what the interviewer did...
The fact that there's is tons of cctv footage (much of it available on you tube) of shoplifters stealing all sorts of things from anywhere and everywhere proves that in fact the eye in the sky deters very few shoplifters ,speeding motorists uninsured drivers any many other law breakers. Many law breakers work on the basis that they won't get caught (sometimes that enhances the thrill) and often don't get caught, and on the odd occasion that they do will see the punishment as par for the course. The eye in the sky, be it your god or a cctv camera only works on people who were unlikely to commit crime in the first place.
I also agree that the interviewer one of newsnight's worst imo
seemed to be trying (all be it meekly) to expose Dawkins as Islamophobic or a heretic or something. It wasn't a great interview but at least it opens up the discussion. BTW is it true the pope doesn't believe in Adam and Eve, does he believe in Noah then or Samson? Does he get to pick and choose which parts are "true " and which aren't ? I suppose he believes in Jesus right ?
Why is someone unlikely to commit a crime or feel guilty for doing so?
This man will be remembered as one of the most iconic figures in all science history and look at this clown next to him. What a shameless act.
I am not superstitious.It brings bad luck!
Every question starts with the word 'but'....
Richard Dawkins knocks down another strawman!
Go team Dawkins!!
The priest of atheism, everyone is religious for something.
@@Balla1527 Yes thats it
Does he pass his atheism down from generation to generation?
Yes. Because Atheism is just another religion.
Do you think it's harmful to give children a complete misconception of the world they live in even if some of the lies are nice smiley lies?
So you suggest not reading bedtime stories ever or allowing them to play make believe? Sounds too harsh for the average parent.
The interviewer's tactics here are pretty clear. He treats Dawkins as if he thinks and does things only for emotional, psychological reasons rather than for logical reasons based on very simple ethics that most of us already understand. This is to undermine the reasons Dawkins has. The interviewer drags out his questions far too long and repeats them then interrupts Dawkins frequently, to minimise the amount of time Dawkins can spend giving clear and complete explanations. He cherry picks quotes out of context with 'you yourself say' in order to create the impression that Dawkins's position is inherently contradictory. He keeps up a calm, almost gentle tone of voice and non-threatening body language while asking questions that imply a very low opinion of the book and of Dawkins, which is insulting. This is, sadly, typical BBC interviewing but odd considering that Mark Urban writes books about military history and must know that many wars have a religious element.
You're dead right.You certainly wouldn't want to meet him for lunch.
“Some people believe Adam and Eve really existed.”
“What do you mean uneducated?”
It’s Adam and Steve now as well!
News Night interviewers have really gone down hill.
Eh? But this clown has been on newsnight for decades.He is respected in his field I believe.
Urban is deliberately trying to ignore Dawkins’s answers and asks him completely unrelated/prescripted questions. I agree with Dawkins, children shouldn’t be labelled as followers of a religion and indoctrinated by religious dogma. To remind to Urban: dogma and truth are two completely different things.
Yes! 100x YES! I am sick our religion in schools my son was sent home with an illustrated booklet about the Easter story, it was presented as fact, they were read stories and given fun games to play and chocolate to eat, I consider this indoctrination, it's bad enough parents get to do it unopposed, but making it a part of school mean s they are either subject to it against your wishes or excluded and singled out if you ask they be removed, even then classrooms are unlikely to be free from it, I remember being shouted at in primary school for criticizing god and religion, I was a third generation atheist, so it wasn't condoned by my parents, or theirs, I remember in high school being threatened with expulsion on the grounds of racism, crime? I told the foreign muslim girl I didn't believe in God when asked about religion, to which she replied I was going to hell, I was insensitive for not "respecting her beliefs" her gleefully telling me how she believes I deserve eternal torture, not a concern. It's backwards, teach them critical thinking and ban any positive discussion of religion in classrooms, correct kids when they recite parental religious indoctrination as fact and explain that it is a myth with no basis in reality! Since the burden of proof is on the religion, it is not indoctrination! If your god wants to be featured in class, then he will present reasonable physical evidence! Books written or dictated by crazy people who wander in desserts, take drugs and/or are known paedophiles and slave be owners are NOT evidence, nor is Jesus's face appearing on your morning toast or any feeling you have!
The interviewer is trying so hard to paint Dr Dawkins as someone who has an underlying agenda
@Aaron Mason If there is any agenda to his work it is that facts matter and that they are more important than superstitions. And that we should base our decisions and policies on those facts.
Proselytising should be illegal.
Well done Richard! Waiting for the book to arrive !
An no mention of Brexit - how is this possible !
Same old questions. Are you serious. Interviewer has got to go! Don’t waste Dawkins time ever again with these elementary questions.
Children should not be brainwashed into religions in the first place, but obviously those who have suffered this form of mental child abuse should be assisted in deprogramming.
It's a shame that the interviewer clearly had a specific slant in the way in which questions were proposed to Richard Dawkins, however Dawkins handled them with grace, as always. Keep on the good fight!
Adam and Eve is a parable of metaphors.
“Adam” translated into English, is “A man.” - Where we (all men) post puberty and adolescence, are Adam (a man) we have therefore changed. We are no longer that young innocent and harmless child of whom we once were. We now have many dishonest and (secretive) immoral thoughts; the demons within us (of which can be extreme) where all such thoughts can lead us into any amount of unruly “Temptation”, also called Satan, the Devil or Lucifer etc. - We have become the “Talking snake” of life. Where “Eve” means “Life.” But we are blind and cannot see ourselves for what we have become…
‘In truth, I tell you, unless a man has been born over again he cannot see the kingdom of God.’
‘But how is it possible’, said Nicodemus, ‘for a man to be born when he is old? Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time and be born?’ Jesus answered, ‘In truth I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and spirit.
Flesh can give birth to only flesh; it is spirit that gives birth to spirit. You ought not to be surprised, then, when I tell you that you must be born over again.’ - (at John 3: 3-7) -
“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (Jesus, at John 4: 24) -
“In truth I tell you, anyone who gives heed to what I say and puts his trust in him who sent me, has hold of eternal life and does not come up for judgement, but has already passed from death to life.” - (at John 5: 24) -
“Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (at Matthew 7: 15-16) -
“Any plant that is not of my heavenly Father’s planting will be rooted up. Leave them alone; they are blind guides, and if one blind man guides another they will both fall into the ditch.” - (Matthew 15: 13-14) -
“Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
“I am the light of the world. No follower of mine shall wander in the dark; he shall have the light of life.” - (Jesus, at John 8: 12) -
“Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…”
- (Matthew 24: 4) -
“Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
“You shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” - (John 8: 32) -
“When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
This is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
Give us today our daily bread,
Forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Matthew 6: 6-15) -
“Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
“Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
“Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 12-14) -
“I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage.
The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 9-10) -
“I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) -
“I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) -
“Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
“I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) -
“The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
“Though many are called, few are chosen.” - (Matthew 22: 14) -
“An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself.
Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
“There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) -
"Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) -
“However, when he comes who is the Spirit of truth; he will guide you into all the truth.” - (John 16: 13) -
“My task is to bear witness to the truth. For this I was born; for this I came into the world, and all who are not deaf to truth listen to my voice.” - (John 18: 37) -
Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Thursday the 6th of August, 2020: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you.
Great interview. What I love about Richard Dawkins is that he bites his tongue for no one and says it how it is.
Rather he gets frustrated as his position is based on emotions and not evidence. He has zero evidence for atheism and zero evidence for macro-evolution...only circular reasoning and fantasy.
Zayd Depaor imagine saying that NOT believing in something...that HAS no evidence....needs evidence. Lmao, grow up and stop playing with the fairies. He's very explicitly repeatedly explained the blatant contradictions, blatant lies and completely impossible (according to the bibles, Torah, Quran definitions) of god.
What is your fucking evidence? Lmao fucking idiot.
Twat He says he has problems with promoting falsehoods to children, but he doesn’t say they shouldn’t be taught the theory of evolution, child abuse is teaching children they were born in the wrong body. He sounds posh and Intelligent but he’s a hypocrite
@@zephergaming4437 the theory of evolution has been proven. We've literally fucking studied and seen evolution of mosquitos into different species that can't interbreed. That's fucking evolution. Its proven.
And when has he ever suggested forcing trans genderism being taught?
@@twat240 Funny you say it has been proven when science doesn't even accept the concept of proof. I guess you have to try and add false authority to something you have social and emotional motives for promoting right? A case of turning your erroneous religion of evolution and atheism into a protected religion. I guess you only became aware of Dawkins recently, I have been refuting his silly statements since before you were born probably. He still has no evidence, but plenty of emotions and frustrations, just like his fan club.
very well spoken mr. dawkins
Awful interviewer
Reporter: "So, you have a problem with Islam"!
Dawkins: "..."
Cant wait to get this book!
inshallah
@@allmendoubt4784 best book ever
Yes. Religion should not be taught by parents to their children. It disturbs the inner morality and personality relationship of the child to reality.
Not such a scandal. I was created less then 40 years ago
The best ever argument against religion, comes from the Lord God and through the voice of Jesus Immanuel. When he already warned us against religion almost 2,000 years ago! - We learn through him that all religions, including Christianity, are led by only fake prophets! He was sent to teach you and me and all of us, just how to pray to God (safely in the secret place) and how we must always live our lives, for the sake of true peace and humanity…
“Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.” - (Jesus Immanuel, at Matthew 4: 19) -
“God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” - (at John 4: 24) -
With regard to all the priests and preachers of all religions that are now rife among us, he said this: “Beware of false prophets, men who come to you dressed up as sheep while underneath they are savage wolves. You will recognize them by the fruits they bear.” - (at Matthew 7: 15-16) -
“Do not call any man on earth ‘father’; for you have one Father and he is in heaven. Nor must you be called ‘teacher’; you have one Teacher, the Messiah.” - (Matthew 23: 9-10) -
“The thief comes only to steal, to kill, to destroy; I have come that men may have life, and may have it in all its fullness.” - (John 10: 10) -
“Take care that no one misleads you: For many will come claiming my name…”
- (Matthew 24: 4) -
“Many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many; and as lawlessness spreads, men’s love for one another will grow cold. But the man who holds out to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the Kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the earth as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come.” - (Matthew 24: 11-14) -
“I am the way; I am the truth and I am life; no one comes to the Father except by me. If you knew me you would know my Father too.” - (John 14: 6-7) -
“When you pray, go into a room by yourself, and shut the door. Pray to your Father who is there in the secret place; and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you.
In your prayers do not go babbling on like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard.
Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what your needs are before you ask him.
This is how you should pray:
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
Your kingdom come; your will be done, on earth as in heaven,
Give us today our daily bread,
And forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.
For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory, for ever.
Amen.
For if you forgive others the wrongs they have done, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; but if you do not forgive others, then the wrongs you have done will not be forgiven by your Father.” - (Matthew 6: 6-15) -
“Pass no judgement, and you will not be judged. For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged, and whatever measure you deal out to others will be dealt back to you.” - (Matthew 7: 1-2) -
“Truly I tell you; if anyone obeys my teaching he shall never know what it is to die.” - (John 8: 51) -
“Always treat others as you would like them to treat you: that is the Law and the Prophets.
Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it.” - (Matthew 7: 11-12) -
“I am the gate; anyone who comes into the fold through me shall be safe. He shall go in and out and shall find pasturage.” - (John 10: 9) -
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.” - (Matthew 7: 21) -
“I am the resurrection and I am life. If a man has faith in me, even though he dies, he shall come to life; and no one who is alive and has faith shall ever die.” - (John 11: 25-26) -
“I have not come to judge the world, but to save the world” - (John 12: 47) -
“Whoever then will acknowledge me before men, I will acknowledge him before my Father in heaven; and whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.” - (Matthew 10: 32-34) -
“The disciples came and asked Jesus, ‘Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven?’ He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. And he said: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven.
Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of Heaven. And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!’” - (Matthew 18: 1-7) -
“Though many are called, few are chosen,” - (Matthew 22: 14) -
“An expert in the law, [a leading religious Pharisee] tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’ He answered, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind. That is the greatest commandment. It comes first. The second is like it: Love your neighbour as yourself. Everything in the Law and the Prophets hangs on these two commandments.’” - (Matthew 22: 35-40) -
“There is no greater love than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends.” - (John 15: 13) -
"Stay awake, and pray that you may be spared the test: The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." - (Matthew 26: 41) -
“When he comes who is the Spirit of truth, he will guide you into all the truth.” - (John 16: 13) -
“Teach them to observe all that I have commanded you. And be assured, I am with you always, to the end of time.” (Matthew 28: 20) -
“One of the criminals who hung there also mocked and taunted him: ‘Aren’t you the Messiah? Save yourself, and us!’ But the other criminal rebuked him. ‘Have you no fear of God? You are under the same sentence as he. For us it is plain justice; we are paying the price for our misdeeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.’ And he said, ‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ He answered, “I tell you this: today you shall be with me in Paradise.’” - (Luke 23: 39-43) -
“For it is my Father’s will that everyone who looks upon the Son and puts his faith in him shall possess eternal life; and I will raise him up on the last day” - (John 6: 40) -
Yours always, in true Spirit and in our one given prayer, 2gointruth, Wednesday the 18th of September, 2019: - (Matthew 5:14-16) - Where every minute (of both day and night) can be a new beginning for any one of us. Let it always be you.
@Juliana Maio
Why, haven't you found yours?
I like Mr Dawkins coz he seems sincere. I know some people see him as evil and anti religious but i think i understand him. The thing most people don't realize is that too many of our own religious leaders claim to know things which they have no clue about, which means they are blatant liars and attention seekers. It doesn't matter which religion, coz all have that.
I would really love to have a conversation with him coz i truly believe that i can prove a whole lot of things. Not by manipulation and deceit, just facts and a slight change of perspective. I hope i get the chance.
i think he has already debated many people like you and his mind has not been changed. i dont think youd have anything new for him. but yea i do agree with the first part of your reply
@@Killerskillz Can you read and do you understand words?
If you can, please tell me whats the difference between a conversation and a debate. And when you realize how stupid you are, il be expecting an apology
Tabrez Moorad u mad? Debate converse there’s no difference. You said your goal was to prove religion or your believe or something to him. I think many people like you have already tried. Don’t know how u think you’re any different
@@Killerskillz Ok. u seem very smart. thanks
Children should be taught philosophy, logic, fallacies, world religions and the history of con artists, sex crimes in churches/cults and religious wars. Then, they will drop religions on their own.
00:54hrs...Evolution THOREY, emmm Seems that private school main stream reporters leak from didn't pay off, did it!
your point being..? evolution is exactly that, a *THEORY in the scientific sense- which means it's been postulated according to the scientific method. that doesn't make it any less true, because it is based on heaps of evidence.
...that's not to say the interviewer is worth the oxygen he's consuming.
@@unexampled oh dear...The only reason the interview stated Thorey was to try and undermind it and even to try and put it on the same level as religion. The only people labeling it as a thorey are the ones trying to defend a myth or feelings. This for obvious reasons needs to be shot down ever time...."My point being" as you put it.
@@neotrio5615 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_fact_and_theory#Theory i think this section explains it better than i could in a few words. the word 'theory' in the scientific sense has a much stricter meaning than it does in daily language, so imo it's not used improperly by the interviewer. my guess is he knows the difference between that and something like flat earth "theory"...
i mean, you could be right. but i'm not convinced that he's using it with malicious intent. he doesn't pause on the word, mentions Dawkins' love of science and is quick to move on to his question. the bigger problem i see is his choice of questions, the way he spins them and his weird off-putting attitude.
on a sidenote: how do you manage to keep spelling _theory_ so wrong- even after editing your messages..?
Richard's a genius. Can't say the same for the interviewer
Dawkins is a manipulative snake.
It turns out that the LGBTQ Community and their Story Hours are the child abusers and child groomers who persecute Christian who fight this agenda. Atheists helped the LGBTQ in the mess we are all in, only because the Bible is against everything they stand for.
Evolution is a *hard based practical science with numerous applications and products* !!!!!
It's not just a "theory"!!!!!!
On the contrary it is unscientific story telling, atheism masquerading as science with zero application and value to genuine biology...If you want to know the biological features of an organism, you observe them and test them, you don't invent stories about millions of years ago.
@@ZaydDepaor this guy has a PhD in biology from Oxford university. He knows VERY well about science and evolution, and has contributed unprecedented studies helping society
You have...? Weak high school grades?
@@twat240 Rather has dedicated his life to calling to atheism...which apart from having zero evidence or reason to support it, produces NO SYSTEM, NO LAWS, NO MORALITY, NO PHILOSOPHY and NO IDEOLOGY so is totally useless in governing society and provides no benefit. He also admits he can't prove it....So he has spent a life calling to nothing, based on nothing to achieve nothing...so very smart indeed, as evidenced by followers such as you.
@@ZaydDepaor its proven. Very hypocritical that you're saying atheism isn't proven. Literally all atheism is, is not believing in something until there is evidence. The Bible has many blatant contradictions according to the rules and boundaries it itself defines. Thus it is NOT evidence of anything. It is a proven impossible book, by its own definitions of reality.
Atheism doesn't need to, or ever claims to have to, be proven. Atheism doesn't claim to know EVERYTHING. Its the opposite. Atheism is believing when there's evidence. Believing there's no god, as there is no PROOF. It isn't saying god CANNOT exist - it's saying there's no evidence to SAY god CAN exist. It doesn't need to be proven..
Whereas theism claims very clearly to know the answers to life - ALL of them. And it has been contradicted many times, and is the one that needs answers. It is the one CLAIMING to have answers that needs to provide proof. Not the other way around. Suggesting otherwise is absurd.
@@twat240 You don't even understand the definition and etymology of the word you have based your life on. THEOS.... THEISM....THEO... 'A'....look up agnostic, atheism. you are confused with skepticism. Because you are a youngster you have no experience of the earlier usage of 'atheism' as opposed to 'agnosticism' The evidence for God is everywhere and on many levels, it is just you are in denial about it and don't understand it. Your failure to understand or recognize decisive proof doesn't mean it is absent.
Whether you believe in religion or not, it has been shown to provide huge consolation to people at times of repression and suffering.One only has to think of the role of the Catholic church in Poland when it was a satellite of the Soviet Uniion
Santa claus provides that to children too, yet children can live happy lives without it
Richard *Dorkins*
Wow! Help yourself to a cookie and go and watch some more cartoons.
@Retropolis
If you murder someone in Islam, you will get the death penalty (and even far worse punishment on Judgement Day/Hell) not 'We will forgive you since you apologize only'. There are payments/repentance need to be done if you wronged someone else so its not just apology that will get God to enter you into heaven.
In Islam, if someone is murdered, that person will get justice in the afterlife regardless whether the murderer apologizes or not.
And lastly, an all forgiving God would forgive a person whose sins were to reach the skies. But a God that is not merciful or forgiving, would not forgive someone for the same amount of sins which then creates the problem of 'why would I accept a God that have a hard time or doubtful in forgiving people?'
Dawkins has the patience of a sage. I would have slapped the interviewer 2 minutes into the interview
Me too! But give him credit, his approach has provoked a sort of debate here.
Genesis 1: 14 says, the stars shall be for signs...
Google, the Northern Cross, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!
Psalms 75: 6 is saying...North is where exaltation comes from God, using the stars as signs!
I know how to read Paleo-Semitic Hebrew!
Hence, the Northern Cross, which is the letter, "tau" is near the North Star! One variant is shaped like a fish!
Evolution can't put a huge cross near the North Star!
God can!
There are about 70 branches of the Semitic alphabet!
@Retropolis Rather your emotions tell you that. Plenty of what the Bible speaks about is sound and applied today, but you have not read it in depth and not understood it, as you have emotional means of making decisions. And something carrying an error doesn't mean the error was always there, otherwise you will have to reject your science too.
Excellent point from Dawkins, religion has no place in schools. Schools are places where children should learn things that are true. Let children choose between cartoons and religion outside of schools and keep education for preparing children to live in the world.
@J. Harris. The myth of human equality? Sorry you are going to have to explain that. Are you advocating a return to government approved slavery? Perhaps the abolishion of healthcare? Maybe the removal of unemployment benefits? Or maybe the return of women being viewed as property? I don't know what you mean, but what ever it is it sounds rather unenlightened and dangerous.
@@Jimmy4video Christianity is part of English life and culture. Only a Communist would want religion removed from English schools.
@@AlanWattResistance is it? The only time most people go to Church is for weddings and funerals. Being Christian is just just another badge these days, very few practice or believe so why bother filling children's heads with nonsense at a time they should be learning valuable skills and knowledge.
@@Jimmy4video Culture and heritage exist as a seperate entity from skills and knowledge, so it's not an either-or scenario. No one is taught faith over reason. Faith is only for the belief in God and the afterlife, nothing else. Remove Christianity and what do you replace it with that represents English culture and heritage?
@@AlanWattResistance That boat has sailed long ago. English culture and heritage? Don't make me laugh. Kids grow up in front of phones watching other people play video games. There's the country lines phenomenon. So what's English culture these days? People getting pissed in the pub, going back and forth to the bookies? Religion didn't stop the degradation of English culture all it does is make people susceptible to taking on beliefs without rationally questioning them.
Geez I swear Richard Dawkins has endured the worst fools.
Richard Dawkins gives clear and educated answers, I wish the journalist could give educated questions. No one should be promoting scientific falsehoods .
Let's separate the superstition in religion from the ethics on the one hand and the politics on the other. As far as I'm concerned there is considerable ethical wisdom - albeit in one religion more than the other - in religion, unless it becomes a set of irrational rules one has to adhere to (dress codes, dietary rules, the supposed inferiority of women, circumcision, etc.). As for politics, as soon as a large group of people (men, mainly) get together and organize themselves, politics polutes the air almost immediately.
Science is not alll that different, allthough some would love to believe that the logical argument always wins in the end (happy ending). In that case we could argue that scientific paradigmas sometimes seem to have the same political implications as religious dogmas, in determining who gets research funds, managerial power in universities and so on. There was a series on the BBC - I thought it was in the nineties, called "Heretics" that showed how dissidents in science were treated by their learned collegues, being all but 'excommunicated' by them, while in some cases being right (If I recall correctly there was this Australian MD who discovered helicobacter pylori and the correct treatment, yet being shunned by scientists). In short, sometimes zealous belief in the power of science tends to have orthodox religious traits.
What is regarded as superstition could (maybe should) be perceived as a set of metaphors by which moral lessons were being taught, not as explanatory myths or absolute explanations.
I've always remembered one particular sentence (soory, don't know who said it and where) in the Bible that says: "Explore everything and conserve (only) the good." Just dismissing everything about religion as superstition is selling some aspects of religion short.
And then there's the matter of the transcendent, which is seemingly outrageous and ridiculous. Well, if we look at present assumptions in quantum physics, we can see that what is deemed insane may sometimes hold some truth, so let's not dismiss it alltogether. Sometimes perception of truth is limited by our imagination.
How's RD's relationship with his daughter?
Yo mamma...
@PrettyNeckslasheshow does his morality manifest itself?
The host really beat that "what's wrong with Americans" question into the ground...
What the hell kind of questions were those? Jesus Christ. Puns intended. Talk about tired and pointless lines of inquiry.
Religion is in part the history of a people. Not everything is literal.
Religion shouldn't be passed from parents to children because of the opportunity costs alone.
100% ON THAT ONE Teach them right from wrong is the best religion you can give to your child No books what so ever
Time for humanity to grow up.
What Newsnight should have done is brought in an academic heavyweight like Dr.John Finnis rather than throwing Urban into the deep end.
so he mentions a god watching you, so if you steal , he is watching...there is also repentance, and compassion, and forgiveness in faith in god. but he says, god watching so you don t steal is ignoble. i wonder if have a cop, if you steal,then a judge , judging you and putting you in jail, ignoble as well, or may act as a deterent. perhaps we should get rid of cops, judges and jails based on his most elevated logic.
Why does this interviewer have a job?
I wonder did the bbc invite this guy because of the recent news about Sinead O’Connor
What harm is done when people believe in scientific falsehoods? Believing in science makes you a good person?
As an American, we surely don't have a good education system lol. "What do you have against Americans and Islam?" 😒
People of religion, try to convert others, during periods of vulnerability. During childhood, homelessness, sickness, grief, war, natural disaster, at food banks etc. We currently have police checks for people coming into contact with the vulnerable. Good if this could be extended to prevent churches selling themselves to the vulnerable. Science, financial support and a genuine friendly face needs to be there first.
Weak people do those things.
Ever thought that maybe they actually care about people?
Long live Professor Dawkins!
Interviewer seems to have lots of preconceived beliefs he’s trying to square with Dawkins’ stellar logic.
I used to have such a high opinion of the BBC.
Just disappointing.
Great to see Richard though, and enjoyed his patient and well reasoned replies to the banal and biased questions!
Why are we still arguing about this -the enlightenment and 'age of reason' occurred several centuries ago!