Hey, everyone! I wanted to be clear in case there could be some confusion that for when we start talking about the Master Duel Drama. I like to play Devil's advocate to get people to think differently. We live in a society where people tend to follow the first thing said or what the "hive mind" thinks. I like to offer some perspective for you to think for your own. (Which I love my chat because they often have different opinions we can all build from) 🔥🔥 Other Videos: 💥Dueling With Meta Decks AFTER The Ban List: ruclips.net/video/NROACEm9j-Q/видео.html 💥Hand Trap Tier List: ruclips.net/video/wF1IyR0by8o/видео.html
I have no problem with that. Here’s the thing, and I’m speaking as someone who honestly doesn’t care about competitive yugioh… What he did was disrespectful it’s the equivalent of an opposing team filming your practices and posting them on RUclips However I’ve learned this in life as well: It is not worth being mad at someone, who just doesn’t care that you’re mad at them
you know if you read konamis rules for worlds at locals theres a section that says they can use EITHER the worlds list OR the tcg list and just have a normal tournament with the black envelope prizes. you got scammed lmao
@thecalieffect for the dkayed stuff the problem i have is how and why he stated he posted it. he said he "knows" players are having their friends DM them on discord everyone's list so he is allowed to post it to make everythjng fair. He didnt post it for content, in his own words he wanted to change the competitiveness of worlds. And thats why personally i disagree with why he did it.
The issue is it's 2024. Almost every (serious) opinion these days is either right or wrong. There are very few opinions that genuinely make sense to understand even when I put myself in another's perspective. So many opinions are people just trying to limit people's rights for no reason.
Yu-Gi-Oh could easily save itself by converting both Master duel players into real world players and vice versa by offering free QR codes in each pack sold to get a free pack opening in Master duel
I have an off and on relationship with yugioh. I love the game but I also hate the game at the same time. I can’t quit the game completely but I will quit from time to time when it gets toxic. Yugioh is not inviting for players as much but my history with the game does not allow me to put it down forever.
Konami isn't broke, just greedy and stingy. Look how they are milking Castlevania by putting out no effort remakes and how they canceled Silent Hill because they didn't wanna put forth the development costs. Konami is a GAMBLING company not a GAMING company
Nope this is entirely Konami. His opinions are also obviously irrelevant to Konami as a business outside of the once in a while virtue signal that favors Konami.@@lz9275Way to eat that Konami boot
Me personally i see this as a non-issue purely based on the fact that 97% of the decks were just yubel and fire kings with sprinkles of tear,branded and voicless. Like its not like they were doing anything particularly spicy other than a tech card here or there
I agree as well bc well it's worlds. In theory it is the best of the best. Very little diversity as it's all meta. Tech cards that are good are still great to use bc well you planned for that no matter if it's known or not (probably benefits a player if they make their opponent think they have certain counter cards too). However I don't think an open deck list should be in every tournament, just in the most competitive ones.
Also if you can unfilter your opinions of Dkayed. Yiu have to remember the YGO he played was lot more grimey than they are now. Also people weren't complaining when it wasn't their deck highlighted lol
To be fair to Konami, which is not a sentence I normally say, that "new card" is mid to high five figures all day long. The runner up trophy last year was 35k.
About Dkayed drama, the mistake is that the decklist post was made before the rounds ended, which means that the players can see the cards and maybe prepare for it. Should have waited at least until round 1 ended.
Why would Konami let players be on their phones during round 1. That's on Konami to manage outside influence. Second, outside influence shouldn't matter if all players have competitive integrity as they should easily report it to staff and all other players. However, the ladder is very unlikely so Konami has to make sure any outside influence is stopped or supervised to keep the game fair.
@@polocatfanI mean posting them during round 1 is equivalent to the end of the round bc Konami would surely not let players be on their phone during games.
Its not like the players were allowed to change their opponent or decks by the time it was posted so it made no difference also you don’t know which deck your opponent was running
I was informed Pokémon Worlds also has pop ups + a plethora of other features that in theory appeal more to the general public so you could potentially bring a casual fan and they have a good experience. As a business owner, ill say that Konami is leaving money on the table by not implementing some of the Pokémon Company’s ideas into their own events with their own unique spin on them
The only real issue is what does Yu-Gi-Oh have other than the card game? Pokemon has a much wider reach of concepts they can use. Such as the anime, the video game, the card game, and iconic characters and Pokemon that connects to people from all ages. Yu-Gi-Oh just has the card game and an anime that most players there either despise or ignore.
Yugioh doesn't have a broad enough IP to do that which is the problem. Pokemon has games over a dozen different genres, from MOBAs, to fighters, to RTS, card games, Pokemon GO, Puzzle games, and of course the original turn based RPG. Yugioh just has... well card games. They have the card game on your phone or in person, but it's just the same card game. It's not a diversified IP and you can blame Konami for that because in its formative years they spent next to NO money developing shovelware games like Reshef, Falsebound Kingdom, and Destiny Board Traveler which were all horrendous despite having arguably decent gameplay concepts. An RTS with turn based RPG combat in 2003? It SHOULD be good based on how popular RTS and RPGs were at the time, and it tanked due to having next to no dev time and no cohesive structure. So rather than reflecting and thinking "man, we really released hot garbage." Konami actually thought to themselves "man, maybe people ONLY like the card game." Their heads are so far up their asses that it might as well be vacuum sealed. So a pokemom IC type event isn't possible for yugioh. They failed to diversify and even today refuse to invest in new avenues of expanding the IP.
IP Not board enough, gameplay experience is bad for new players/casual Complicated ruling and interaction Not a problem in OCG but TCG jacked up rarity and the cards are expensive af, while tournament does not reward dedication for pros/those who practice Looks at one piece? Many of my peer already moved to optcg, I played other card game temporary to have more fun than just ygo To secure the win u just don't let your opponent play ygo, either thru floodgates or negate or multiple HT, how's that fun for new players? Or casual players, u are mostly having fun turn 1 and pray drawing your board break losing dice roll,most game ended in less than 2-4 turns
@Mr_pai_pai bro WHAT IPs? It's literally JUST a card game. That's like saying MtG has enough IP for a whole themed convention. I mean sure it has enough history, but it'd still ALL be about the card game. That's hardly a diverse convention.
You dont compete for money. Get that in your brain. Money always comes later to attract more competitors but outside of that people will still compete. I think getting your expenses covered to attend worlds is pretty good. This is not DotA where you play with a prize pool of 40 million dollars.
@Corey91666 not dueling for money when it cost like 300 to get staples but it is true that you don't compete for money you really compete for nothing tbh
@@Corey91666 It's a valid point to bring up the lack of money when every other game offers it, including games marketed to kids. It wouldn't be as big of a deal if Konami was competent at prizing without it, but every time we get half-assed efforts, it's going to continue to compound the issue further and make the lack of money even more salient.
The issue with worlds is it's basically not the title people care about in yugioh like people put more emphasis on YCS wins which in any other sport are basically regional/national levels as the big prestige and only if it's American YCS wins with over a certain number of people and if you beat certain people to win the event does it count as valid
Game~Noun;A Form of Play or Sport. I want everyone to pay attention to the word PLAY in that Definition. Not even Football or Basketball is near as degenerate or toxic as the toxic side of this community, because while Athletes may be competitive, at least the best kinds can still shake hands at the end of a Game, Win or Lose. If we want to fix this game, it has to begin with us as a Community.
Not arguing with Cali. Just some points to consider after reading comments and hearing the arguments you say folk are making. 1. The fact that it was something that either “didn’t even cross his mind” or did, but was ultimately deemed less important than his own ability to profit in some way (views, discourse, money, infamy/fame, etc.) is the problem, though, right? 2. Being critical of someone’s bad decisions isn’t inherently a question of misplaced expectations-I don’t think it makes sense to make that leap, I.e. the “I don’t know why anyone would expect him to care in the first place” argument(s). It’s a question of consequences and impacts: no matter the intentions or levels of care, actions have consequences, and while intent and regard and respect and whatever else have explanatory power, offering us insight into why this might have happened, they do not change the fact that it happened and do not dampen the impacts this had on the game. 3. Other card games having open deck lists is fine, but everyone enters into this event under a shared assumption that this is not the case for this game, and that they should expect to operate with a certain level of knowledge about their opponents. If that level of knowledge is radically and suddenly upended by an outside party who, as is said in the video, either doesn’t know or doesn’t care about the consequences of what sharing that information might do, then the sort of shared understanding people thought they would be competing with is violated without any prior capacity to consent. 4. ‘Ah, well, it’s the third party software’s fault for existing and not my fault for posting what it revealed everywhere-someone else would have profited off it first, so I just made a business decision.’ Whoever is arguing something along these lines is ridiculous. 5. How cheap and bereft is Konami really? Cheap and bereft enough to have weak enough security measures that allow third party software to even do this in the first place. What a shit company. Too bad they make the only card game I like.
Third-party party software being able to do that is wrong. That much is clear. However, taking third-party party software and deciding to post on a site visited by thousands is also wrong. People saying we should be mad at the software and not Dkayed is wrong. We should be mad at both. However, one is clearly wrong, and the other people are defending for some reason. My main issue is that Dkayed arbitrarily decided that what he was doing is clearly the correct way that Konami needs to do things and pretty much made the decision for everyone. You dont get to decide that. Its not your place as a streamer who doesnt even have a horse in this race to tell everyone that your way is right and that everyone else who doesnt agree is wrong. And his defense of the situation was still weird. Someone or something doing wrong doesn't suddenly make your wrong actions ok or correct.
If you got into a fight and your opponent pulled out a gun, you'd want someone to give you a gun too. Point being: If a group(s) of people have access to everyone's list. The only way to negate that is to give out everyone's list. Its not about right or wrong atp, its about leveling the playing field.
@bishopclarke3295 Dkayed had no way of knowing or proving that to be true. He decided it was true based on his logic of "I've been to worlds before. I know how players do things. Clearly, they're still doing it". Or "X program exists. Clearly they are using it. Im gonna post everything to make it fair." Except he didnt prove any of that before deciding to post. Plus whether or not they are or aren't doing any of this it still wasn't his decision to make. Your argument also involves the person involved wanting to be handed something that makes it fair. Dkayed didn't ask anyone. Dkayed isn't a party involved. He just decided to insert himself into it
@@Matthew-he6id I agree he can easily sit there and do nothing while having the deck list from the 3rd party that sponsors some of the players. But now you have a dilemma bc you know these players potentially have these lists w/o releasing them out. So I would agree with you if it was solely dkayed's source that got those deck lists but that's not the case. We have a situation where these players potentially are playing and have this info already. Let's assume they all have integrity for competition so if they are leaked they would let staff and players know to keep the integrity of the competition. Yeah it sucks it's assumption based action but I think it's the doubt of integrity at loss already especially when players are sponsored by these 3rd party apps that had the deck lists.
As a RC-2 PC-1 and DC-1 judge that's done a WCQ or two, it's always the worst or least talented "duelists" that talk the most shit about judges or their rulings. If you were half as good as you think you are at a card game for kids, then we "trash judges" wouldn't even be required to hear people complain about simple card interactions. Just saying. Cali is making legit points tbh but man comment sections be tripping.
In my personal opinion… it’s half-and-half. Konami should’ve been aware ahead of time that potential cyber attacks or leaks can happen due to the fact that this is THE biggest tournament there is for yugioh… though, on the other hand, there will always be that one hacker who will do whatever they can to leak something from Konami…. And trust me there are people like that and they will eventually do it. That’s why I say it’s half-and-half because Konami could’ve done something to stop it ahead of time, but at same time there will always be that one person who has no chill and end up leaking something
Showing a preview of one of the coolest looking anime ideas and then just not saying anything about it after is criminal. A yugioh show not about the cards but about the lore of archetypes. It’s what yugioh really needs to try and branch out. The game is also so hard to get into, I started playing one piece on the side and it’s already a really good time casually. Yugioh is too, after a couple months of even figuring out how the game REALLY works
The cheating thing is fundamentally a problem. It seems like in Yugioh, the game has gotten entirely too complex for its own good. Every major event it seems like there was just an absurd amount of misplays, and I blame it on the literal paragraphs that get printed on cards now. Nearly every card that gets printed, that’s at least meta relevant, seems to have 3 effects that all trigger at different times. I know that’s not the literal case with every card, but with how crazy things have gotten the misplays aren’t surprising.
Konami NEEDS a better marketing team and a person on top who acctualy plays this game and understand what the players want. Konami wasting so much potentital about this game its insane. I love this game but i dont know any other company that runs its business so porly damn.
Outsider with no horse in the race, the leak drama sounds like a very simple moral dilemma. Do something to benefit yourself, or avoid it to try and stay ethical. People can make whichever choice and it's clear why you'd make that choice, but it's not void of criticism. Making a public unethical choice is going to draw you criticism, as it should.
if you want to play competitively, you should be responsible enough to research the risk and reward to this. Having a public outburst to quit which could have been solved with looking up 10 minutes of information doesn't make it konami's fault, it's the player. reap what you sow deal.
Pokemon International Championships was here in New Orleans in June and the thing that makes it different than ANY OTHER competitive gaming event is that you can enjoy going even as a spectator. There are vendors, gaming lounges, consoles set up with the most recent games for people to play, spectator events and activities, the Pokemon Play labs, photo ops with Pokemon characters (mostly Pikachu and Eevee, but I've seen others as well), multiple simultaneous streams and commentary going on, arts and crafts corners, there is literally enough to do that you could spend all day there and be occupied and not even know how to play the card game or any other game besides the main series video games for that matter. For yugioh, you just have the card game in a room with a bunch of people who dont shower. Sorry, I'll pass.
TCG and OCG need to be one game with merged release dates and ban list. Personally I think Duel Links and Rush Duel are a waste of time. I'd rather they focused on the main game and alternate formats that have more or less the same rules as modern Yugioh, like Edison.
Well, I mean, it's not a real hard question when boiled down. Does one prefer the selfish reason or the selfless one? That's all it is. Does he post and benefit himself at the cost of the element of surprise and potential game integrity being lost, or does he bite the bullet and let one slide for the sake of maintaining an even playing field for all? I don't really see why so many are having issues with making the call, though I'd say one's answer probably is worth some good introspection in the end.
Wait we were supposed to use the world’s list for that Celebration event??? That shit didn’t happen for my locals in AZ. Hell none of us even played decks that were remotely sniffing a tier list so I guess it didn’t matter. But only 6 showed up for mine and I used PTO to get there because I was told more were supposed to show up. Waste of time.
I understood the worlds ban list is weird because you have two separate area basically playing two different games then tell them they are both wrong for worlds
Been playing since 2002. Still know who most of the multi champions are. Cant name one world champ. It doesn’t matter. Every other game and sport doesn’t do this wierd split. Worlds doesn’t mean your the best. Just the best in that weird format.
well funny thing is dkayed gave reasoning to why he didn't care that the lists were leaked citing that tourney players were having friends leak decklist to them so him leaking everyone's deck essentially evened the playing field so his reasoning is about competitive integrity
Just release Rush Duel cards in the US...that's all you have to do. People would play it if they could...play it...Duel Links is extremely unapproachable if you aren't either willing to spend a ton of money to have been playing it for a long time. if I didn't have to import and translate my rushduel cards, I know my locals at the very least would play it.
Bro you cannot give Dkayed a pass because his motivation was money. What kind of Mr Krabs sense of morality is too far, exactly? You're saying 'he doesnt care about the integrity of the game so its alright for him to release that content', and thats just nuts. 'I dont care about the rules so Im not gonna worry about whether they apply to me' is not the way anyone should approach anything, ever.
@thecalieffect pinned comment doesn't make anything I said different, though. Bottom line, if you're using money as justification, you know it's not gonna win the moral argument. The devils advocate line is just the 'Im just asking questions' grifter vibe.
So are you assuming he did it for money or do you think because one does it then all do it for that reason. Maybe he released the deck list for integrity reasons as some players sponsors had them on their 3rd party apps so he saw foul play and "evened the playing field". Or maybe we can assume he did it for both bc he benefits from his site and he also wants integrity to be kept? How do you know his motivation is money? If his motivation was truly only money then wouldn't he release the info behind the paid version of the site?
@@t3hi84n2gyou do realize that the fault falls on untapped gg for not keeps the lists private and not delayed for posting ALREADY PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO WANTED IT HAD ACCESS TO. So yeah maybe use your head for a min before spreading hate and misinformation?
@@lrvalv8312he didn’t release anything himself anyways. The blame falls solely on untapped for not keeps tournament deck lists private. This was effectively public information for anyone using the program which considering many tutorials for new players recommend the program to help build your deck I would assume A LOT of players are using it. Dekayed shouldn’t be throwing cheating accusations around with zero evidence but we can’t pretend he’s at fault for supposedly “leaking” info that was already public.
I think you should be able to look over your opponents deck list before a match and honestly at any time throughout the match. Specially on master duel.
Wait y'all have to sit through every single format on a single stream? How does that even work if its all happening at the same time throughout the weekend? God that would ruin my ability to care about the event outright tbh
They could easily fix the issues with worlds but they clearly don’t care. Worlds could easily be some kind of yugioh card fest like a small scale pokemon worlds. Instead, they make it closed event. Nats and ycs are way more hype to watch than worlds. Also the stream was awful. More than half the screen was not gameplay. Konami just making weird choices time and time again
Pokemon is 9/10 People I meet on the street know, only a old person or two goes what? Lol. Yugioh, it's like 2/10 even have a clue on it. So Yes we need a better worlds, but we need better YCS first, like they improved but Euro >>>> is how they need to be done with a little more flash, then when they see the turn out and viewers rise you go grander for Wrold's. I will say this, The Finals Last year for World's for the card game I liked more the Japan showcase, the beginning rounds was widely mediocre in the presentation, the duels fine. This year presentation eh, Duel was fine. Master duel was stellar duel.
My opinion on it its not as bad as people are taking it to be. Could have dkayed handeld it better yes 100% but I do think he did it to preserve the integrity of the game. I understand people may not believe that or not like that and thats fine. The only thing I dont like is the dogpiling without any real reason to say anything besides hate bc its someone they dont like. P.s. the reason I say he did it for integrity is bc i watch his streams and he always talks about way tournaments can be exploited and how he has to be strict on master duel players in his tournaments. His mindset is very much to assume everyone is cheating to help build a better competition by countering those possible flaws.
While I don't think Ruben cheated your defense isn't a valid one passion for the game means nothing many of the most passionate competitive people in many a community are found out to be cheaters because in their minds they deserved the win or they deserved the good luck
Konami handing out the equivalent of toilet tissue for winning worlds. and the community mad at Dkayed for sharing public information.... ahh.. sounds like yugioh lol.
I mean no one’s stopping you but your success will surely be limited at best. If your goal is to just get into the space and learn about the game then you don’t need to play the “best” deck but you should at least aim to play a “good” one that has a realistic gameplay in the current format. Otherwise you won’t be able to last long enough in a duel to realistically learn much. If expense is your issue I highly suggest master duel. You can build a meta deck for free over time and have a good time in the ranked ladder. Can help you decide if you even like the game before spending real money on real cards.
congrats to Ruben. But no shot I’m buying he didn’t cheat on purpose. If you play yubel at this level you absolutely know. you literally have to run a brick in chaos summoning beast because we know this. On the other hand, cheating subtly is unfortunately a part of a lot of tops. The judges are at fault.
It literally did not change the outcome of the game at all. If you were to intentionally cheat at the World Fucking Championships, it would be doing something that actually affects the game state in a way that makes you win.
Is this talking about the adding the DBB off DBB? That literally had no impact whatsoever on the outcome of the game. Judges should've caught it but people make mistakes and luckily it didn't matter here. Not calling you out specifically but what is up recently with everyone assuming everyone wants to and will cheat, first with Dkayed's accusations, now this.
The real problem is you ninjas still going to keep playing the game than boycotting Komoney to fix it. You all still will keep going to the tournaments but then still complain about prizes. If you all stop going and stop buying cards to boycott the game for changes they will. But as long as you keep buying and going they won’t. It’s simple. If you all won’t stop then stop complaining
Bruh it wasn't a video he made, it was on his website! This was not a revenue generated thing via a video for education. It was for clicks on the most popular website for master duel. Please update your video cuz you got this completely wrong. My guy doubled down and called someone who was at the event and called his actions out a cheater. I don't think there's room for devils advocate on this. The dude hosts tournaments and provides info for the game and did a watch party for the event. Ofc he cares about competitive Yu-Gi-Oh. So I ask that you please fix this cuz it seems like the research was not done
Hell even the software company that dkayed used, made a statement that this will no longer be a thing that can be done with the software cuz this was never intended and disavowed what dkayed did!
They are vendor provided. Walmart doesn't stock them themselves, the distributors do and stock them independently. If the store isn't profitable they stop distributing to that location.
Sorry but naw. If you're at worlds you should not be missplaying or unintentionally cheating that is CRAZY to defend that. How are you at worlds still doing that? Nahhhhh
Competitive my ass you won the Master Duel Championship and just won your self damn card a mat a throphy and a flight home wtf is Konami doing everyone was grinding their asses for points just to get those slots some are not even sleeping or eating properly and some dude just leaked the card pool yes a bit of a dck move but if you win the Championship what do you get for those time you've sacrificed those prizes lol no cash prize or what? TF heck I can make my own throphy and buy those cards and mats and call myself a champion and not waste time on grinding.
I dont care about Dkayed releasing everyones deck list, i do care that he did it before anyone played a single round. He couldve waited a day or two then released it. Instead he ruined the fun of competition
I'm not interested in Rush Duels personally. Anyway, I don't see what Dkayed did wrong here. If the decklist is public knowledge then he's done nothing wrong and let's be honest a decklist for a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament isn't as important as a social security number.
Kunami is fuckin lazy, they need to step up their game and stop being just "money" focused and give a fuck about the playerbase and the dam game itself. You do that and you'll make MORE money and bring MORE players in because YOU SHOW YOU CARE, ffs it's pathetic at this point how they are rn.
Probaly not so Bad then When Konami banned non Japanese from entering any Yugi tournaments. They banned any Person who does not Look like Japanese Even if they live in Japan.
Hey, everyone! I wanted to be clear in case there could be some confusion that for when we start talking about the Master Duel Drama. I like to play Devil's advocate to get people to think differently. We live in a society where people tend to follow the first thing said or what the "hive mind" thinks. I like to offer some perspective for you to think for your own. (Which I love my chat because they often have different opinions we can all build from)
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I have no problem with that.
Here’s the thing, and I’m speaking as someone who honestly doesn’t care about competitive yugioh…
What he did was disrespectful it’s the equivalent of an opposing team filming your practices and posting them on RUclips
However I’ve learned this in life as well:
It is not worth being mad at someone, who just doesn’t care that you’re mad at them
you know if you read konamis rules for worlds at locals theres a section that says they can use EITHER the worlds list OR the tcg list and just have a normal tournament with the black envelope prizes. you got scammed lmao
@thecalieffect for the dkayed stuff the problem i have is how and why he stated he posted it. he said he "knows" players are having their friends DM them on discord everyone's list so he is allowed to post it to make everythjng fair. He didnt post it for content, in his own words he wanted to change the competitiveness of worlds. And thats why personally i disagree with why he did it.
The issue is it's 2024. Almost every (serious) opinion these days is either right or wrong. There are very few opinions that genuinely make sense to understand even when I put myself in another's perspective. So many opinions are people just trying to limit people's rights for no reason.
@@OldManTCG you think a better equivalent would be both teams practices were filmed and put on RUclips?
Yu-Gi-Oh could easily save itself by converting both Master duel players into real world players and vice versa by offering free QR codes in each pack sold to get a free pack opening in Master duel
Just would be a rip off of the Pokémon app
@@Oscar-s9y that’s not a rip off…tons of games do this lol.
Brother, Duel Masters is a completely different TCG
@@evand9113 I would love all card games do this so much
People still play Duel Masters?
R.I.P James Earl Jones (1931-2024)
I have an off and on relationship with yugioh. I love the game but I also hate the game at the same time. I can’t quit the game completely but I will quit from time to time when it gets toxic. Yugioh is not inviting for players as much but my history with the game does not allow me to put it down forever.
Excellent view, I think a lot of people have this sentiment.
Damn... hearing the prizes for YGO worlds is pretty sad, no way is Yugioh that broke.
Konami isn't broke, just greedy and stingy. Look how they are milking Castlevania by putting out no effort remakes and how they canceled Silent Hill because they didn't wanna put forth the development costs. Konami is a GAMBLING company not a GAMING company
100%
There's a reason they're focusing on mobile gaming and Pachinko machines
Thank mister Takahashi for that no prize money ruling, even after his passing that rule is still enforced
Nope this is entirely Konami. His opinions are also obviously irrelevant to Konami as a business outside of the once in a while virtue signal that favors Konami.@@lz9275Way to eat that Konami boot
@@ralman88 The prize cards can easily be sold for $80-100K
Me personally i see this as a non-issue purely based on the fact that 97% of the decks were just yubel and fire kings with sprinkles of tear,branded and voicless. Like its not like they were doing anything particularly spicy other than a tech card here or there
I agree as well bc well it's worlds. In theory it is the best of the best. Very little diversity as it's all meta. Tech cards that are good are still great to use bc well you planned for that no matter if it's known or not (probably benefits a player if they make their opponent think they have certain counter cards too). However I don't think an open deck list should be in every tournament, just in the most competitive ones.
Also if you can unfilter your opinions of Dkayed. Yiu have to remember the YGO he played was lot more grimey than they are now. Also people weren't complaining when it wasn't their deck highlighted lol
Yeah this is why I don't watch competitive yugioh it's always the same decks with different sprinkles
To be fair to Konami, which is not a sentence I normally say, that "new card" is mid to high five figures all day long. The runner up trophy last year was 35k.
People they know they aren't going to grind for it are quick to complain that it's not enough.
@@TeamDreamhunter don't know the legitimacy, but apparently someone was offering 100k for the card
Dude.... was this jazzy versions of yugioh music? Simply amazing
I like it too, I think the first track so far is the Lost Woods from Zelda
About Dkayed drama, the mistake is that the decklist post was made before the rounds ended, which means that the players can see the cards and maybe prepare for it. Should have waited at least until round 1 ended.
yeah. if he posted it after round 1 I wouldn't be mad at him.
Why would Konami let players be on their phones during round 1. That's on Konami to manage outside influence. Second, outside influence shouldn't matter if all players have competitive integrity as they should easily report it to staff and all other players. However, the ladder is very unlikely so Konami has to make sure any outside influence is stopped or supervised to keep the game fair.
@@polocatfanI mean posting them during round 1 is equivalent to the end of the round bc Konami would surely not let players be on their phone during games.
Everybody had an opportunity to get them thru untapped... if ne body wants to b mad at somebody b mad at untapped
Its not like the players were allowed to change their opponent or decks by the time it was posted so it made no difference also you don’t know which deck your opponent was running
I was informed Pokémon Worlds also has pop ups + a plethora of other features that in theory appeal more to the general public so you could potentially bring a casual fan and they have a good experience.
As a business owner, ill say that Konami is leaving money on the table by not implementing some of the Pokémon Company’s ideas into their own events with their own unique spin on them
The only real issue is what does Yu-Gi-Oh have other than the card game? Pokemon has a much wider reach of concepts they can use. Such as the anime, the video game, the card game, and iconic characters and Pokemon that connects to people from all ages. Yu-Gi-Oh just has the card game and an anime that most players there either despise or ignore.
Yugioh doesn't have a broad enough IP to do that which is the problem. Pokemon has games over a dozen different genres, from MOBAs, to fighters, to RTS, card games, Pokemon GO, Puzzle games, and of course the original turn based RPG.
Yugioh just has... well card games. They have the card game on your phone or in person, but it's just the same card game. It's not a diversified IP and you can blame Konami for that because in its formative years they spent next to NO money developing shovelware games like Reshef, Falsebound Kingdom, and Destiny Board Traveler which were all horrendous despite having arguably decent gameplay concepts. An RTS with turn based RPG combat in 2003? It SHOULD be good based on how popular RTS and RPGs were at the time, and it tanked due to having next to no dev time and no cohesive structure. So rather than reflecting and thinking "man, we really released hot garbage." Konami actually thought to themselves "man, maybe people ONLY like the card game." Their heads are so far up their asses that it might as well be vacuum sealed.
So a pokemom IC type event isn't possible for yugioh. They failed to diversify and even today refuse to invest in new avenues of expanding the IP.
IP Not board enough, gameplay experience is bad for new players/casual
Complicated ruling and interaction
Not a problem in OCG but TCG jacked up rarity and the cards are expensive af, while tournament does not reward dedication for pros/those who practice
Looks at one piece? Many of my peer already moved to optcg, I played other card game temporary to have more fun than just ygo
To secure the win u just don't let your opponent play ygo, either thru floodgates or negate or multiple HT, how's that fun for new players? Or casual players, u are mostly having fun turn 1 and pray drawing your board break losing dice roll,most game ended in less than 2-4 turns
There's enough IP for a Yu-Gi-Oh branded convention, the players that complain are just salty nerds.
@Mr_pai_pai bro WHAT IPs? It's literally JUST a card game. That's like saying MtG has enough IP for a whole themed convention. I mean sure it has enough history, but it'd still ALL be about the card game. That's hardly a diverse convention.
The fact that one of the rewards for winning is a free trip back home is insane and undermines the idea of a reward for competing💀
You dont compete for money. Get that in your brain.
Money always comes later to attract more competitors but outside of that people will still compete.
I think getting your expenses covered to attend worlds is pretty good.
This is not DotA where you play with a prize pool of 40 million dollars.
@Corey91666 not dueling for money when it cost like 300 to get staples but it is true that you don't compete for money you really compete for nothing tbh
@@Corey91666
and then people like this continue to make excuses. No wonder Konami treats its players like garbage. 😊
@@spicymemes7458 i only criticise the cry for money. I dont say you cant have better prizing in general.
@@Corey91666 It's a valid point to bring up the lack of money when every other game offers it, including games marketed to kids. It wouldn't be as big of a deal if Konami was competent at prizing without it, but every time we get half-assed efforts, it's going to continue to compound the issue further and make the lack of money even more salient.
Someone needs to invent the first hologram duel fields like in the anime in duelist Kingdom
The issue with worlds is it's basically not the title people care about in yugioh like people put more emphasis on YCS wins which in any other sport are basically regional/national levels as the big prestige and only if it's American YCS wins with over a certain number of people and if you beat certain people to win the event does it count as valid
Game~Noun;A Form of Play or Sport. I want everyone to pay attention to the word PLAY in that Definition. Not even Football or Basketball is near as degenerate or toxic as the toxic side of this community, because while Athletes may be competitive, at least the best kinds can still shake hands at the end of a Game, Win or Lose. If we want to fix this game, it has to begin with us as a Community.
It seems the only things stronger than drama in the yugioh community is smell.
Not arguing with Cali. Just some points to consider after reading comments and hearing the arguments you say folk are making.
1. The fact that it was something that either “didn’t even cross his mind” or did, but was ultimately deemed less important than his own ability to profit in some way (views, discourse, money, infamy/fame, etc.) is the problem, though, right?
2. Being critical of someone’s bad decisions isn’t inherently a question of misplaced expectations-I don’t think it makes sense to make that leap, I.e. the “I don’t know why anyone would expect him to care in the first place” argument(s). It’s a question of consequences and impacts: no matter the intentions or levels of care, actions have consequences, and while intent and regard and respect and whatever else have explanatory power, offering us insight into why this might have happened, they do not change the fact that it happened and do not dampen the impacts this had on the game.
3. Other card games having open deck lists is fine, but everyone enters into this event under a shared assumption that this is not the case for this game, and that they should expect to operate with a certain level of knowledge about their opponents. If that level of knowledge is radically and suddenly upended by an outside party who, as is said in the video, either doesn’t know or doesn’t care about the consequences of what sharing that information might do, then the sort of shared understanding people thought they would be competing with is violated without any prior capacity to consent.
4. ‘Ah, well, it’s the third party software’s fault for existing and not my fault for posting what it revealed everywhere-someone else would have profited off it first, so I just made a business decision.’ Whoever is arguing something along these lines is ridiculous.
5. How cheap and bereft is Konami really? Cheap and bereft enough to have weak enough security measures that allow third party software to even do this in the first place. What a shit company. Too bad they make the only card game I like.
The overall coverage… I didn’t know it was happening until day 2 of the event.
Third-party party software being able to do that is wrong. That much is clear. However, taking third-party party software and deciding to post on a site visited by thousands is also wrong. People saying we should be mad at the software and not Dkayed is wrong. We should be mad at both. However, one is clearly wrong, and the other people are defending for some reason.
My main issue is that Dkayed arbitrarily decided that what he was doing is clearly the correct way that Konami needs to do things and pretty much made the decision for everyone. You dont get to decide that. Its not your place as a streamer who doesnt even have a horse in this race to tell everyone that your way is right and that everyone else who doesnt agree is wrong.
And his defense of the situation was still weird. Someone or something doing wrong doesn't suddenly make your wrong actions ok or correct.
If you got into a fight and your opponent pulled out a gun, you'd want someone to give you a gun too.
Point being: If a group(s) of people have access to everyone's list. The only way to negate that is to give out everyone's list.
Its not about right or wrong atp, its about leveling the playing field.
@bishopclarke3295 Dkayed had no way of knowing or proving that to be true. He decided it was true based on his logic of "I've been to worlds before. I know how players do things. Clearly, they're still doing it". Or "X program exists. Clearly they are using it. Im gonna post everything to make it fair." Except he didnt prove any of that before deciding to post. Plus whether or not they are or aren't doing any of this it still wasn't his decision to make.
Your argument also involves the person involved wanting to be handed something that makes it fair. Dkayed didn't ask anyone. Dkayed isn't a party involved. He just decided to insert himself into it
The timing of the post was to blame I think.
@Matthew-he6id doesn't matter tho cuz now every list was made public
@@Matthew-he6id I agree he can easily sit there and do nothing while having the deck list from the 3rd party that sponsors some of the players. But now you have a dilemma bc you know these players potentially have these lists w/o releasing them out. So I would agree with you if it was solely dkayed's source that got those deck lists but that's not the case. We have a situation where these players potentially are playing and have this info already. Let's assume they all have integrity for competition so if they are leaked they would let staff and players know to keep the integrity of the competition. Yeah it sucks it's assumption based action but I think it's the doubt of integrity at loss already especially when players are sponsored by these 3rd party apps that had the deck lists.
As a RC-2 PC-1 and DC-1 judge that's done a WCQ or two, it's always the worst or least talented "duelists" that talk the most shit about judges or their rulings. If you were half as good as you think you are at a card game for kids, then we "trash judges" wouldn't even be required to hear people complain about simple card interactions. Just saying. Cali is making legit points tbh but man comment sections be tripping.
In my personal opinion… it’s half-and-half. Konami should’ve been aware ahead of time that potential cyber attacks or leaks can happen due to the fact that this is THE biggest tournament there is for yugioh… though, on the other hand, there will always be that one hacker who will do whatever they can to leak something from Konami…. And trust me there are people like that and they will eventually do it. That’s why I say it’s half-and-half because Konami could’ve done something to stop it ahead of time, but at same time there will always be that one person who has no chill and end up leaking something
I enjoy the cosmic energy in the beginning of your discussions.
Showing a preview of one of the coolest looking anime ideas and then just not saying anything about it after is criminal. A yugioh show not about the cards but about the lore of archetypes. It’s what yugioh really needs to try and branch out. The game is also so hard to get into, I started playing one piece on the side and it’s already a really good time casually. Yugioh is too, after a couple months of even figuring out how the game REALLY works
The cheating thing is fundamentally a problem.
It seems like in Yugioh, the game has gotten entirely too complex for its own good. Every major event it seems like there was just an absurd amount of misplays, and I blame it on the literal paragraphs that get printed on cards now.
Nearly every card that gets printed, that’s at least meta relevant, seems to have 3 effects that all trigger at different times. I know that’s not the literal case with every card, but with how crazy things have gotten the misplays aren’t surprising.
Dkayed is my favorite competitive yugituber
In sports both teams play with open rosters
Konami NEEDS a better marketing team and a person on top who acctualy plays this game and understand what the players want. Konami wasting so much potentital about this game its insane. I love this game but i dont know any other company that runs its business so porly damn.
Rush duel is not in the tcg unless you count duel link
Yoo true. Probably paid more for Nocturne than the Championship prizes!
Outsider with no horse in the race, the leak drama sounds like a very simple moral dilemma. Do something to benefit yourself, or avoid it to try and stay ethical. People can make whichever choice and it's clear why you'd make that choice, but it's not void of criticism. Making a public unethical choice is going to draw you criticism, as it should.
can you make an "extra deck combos" video? example: ip masq + spright
Unless we're implying everyone cheats. Simple solution is players should have some integrity and not seek out leaked decklist.
if you want to play competitively, you should be responsible enough to research the risk and reward to this. Having a public outburst to quit which could have been solved with looking up 10 minutes of information doesn't make it konami's fault, it's the player. reap what you sow deal.
Pokemon International Championships was here in New Orleans in June and the thing that makes it different than ANY OTHER competitive gaming event is that you can enjoy going even as a spectator. There are vendors, gaming lounges, consoles set up with the most recent games for people to play, spectator events and activities, the Pokemon Play labs, photo ops with Pokemon characters (mostly Pikachu and Eevee, but I've seen others as well), multiple simultaneous streams and commentary going on, arts and crafts corners, there is literally enough to do that you could spend all day there and be occupied and not even know how to play the card game or any other game besides the main series video games for that matter. For yugioh, you just have the card game in a room with a bunch of people who dont shower. Sorry, I'll pass.
Honestly, I just think of judges as regular ppl bc while they still know more about the game than me, they will still make mistakes
TCG and OCG need to be one game with merged release dates and ban list.
Personally I think Duel Links and Rush Duel are a waste of time. I'd rather they focused on the main game and alternate formats that have more or less the same rules as modern Yugioh, like Edison.
Well, I mean, it's not a real hard question when boiled down.
Does one prefer the selfish reason or the selfless one? That's all it is. Does he post and benefit himself at the cost of the element of surprise and potential game integrity being lost, or does he bite the bullet and let one slide for the sake of maintaining an even playing field for all? I don't really see why so many are having issues with making the call, though I'd say one's answer probably is worth some good introspection in the end.
Wait we were supposed to use the world’s list for that Celebration event??? That shit didn’t happen for my locals in AZ. Hell none of us even played decks that were remotely sniffing a tier list so I guess it didn’t matter. But only 6 showed up for mine and I used PTO to get there because I was told more were supposed to show up. Waste of time.
Have the ocg and tcg champion face each other like the super bowl. Rotate every other year which set of rules you play by.
I understood the worlds ban list is weird because you have two separate area basically playing two different games then tell them they are both wrong for worlds
They should make a yugioh rpg game that would be dope
Been playing since 2002. Still know who most of the multi champions are. Cant name one world champ. It doesn’t matter. Every other game and sport doesn’t do this wierd split. Worlds doesn’t mean your the best. Just the best in that weird format.
I would be more interested in dungeon dice than rush
well funny thing is dkayed gave reasoning to why he didn't care that the lists were leaked citing that tourney players were having friends leak decklist to them so him leaking everyone's deck essentially evened the playing field so his reasoning is about competitive integrity
I think the players ought to stop being so narrow minded to think the TCG is the only way to play Yugioh. It’s annoying.
These bots are wild man 😂
Just release Rush Duel cards in the US...that's all you have to do. People would play it if they could...play it...Duel Links is extremely unapproachable if you aren't either willing to spend a ton of money to have been playing it for a long time.
if I didn't have to import and translate my rushduel cards, I know my locals at the very least would play it.
Bro you cannot give Dkayed a pass because his motivation was money. What kind of Mr Krabs sense of morality is too far, exactly? You're saying 'he doesnt care about the integrity of the game so its alright for him to release that content', and thats just nuts. 'I dont care about the rules so Im not gonna worry about whether they apply to me' is not the way anyone should approach anything, ever.
@@t3hi84n2g you gotta read the pinned comment. 🤣
@thecalieffect pinned comment doesn't make anything I said different, though. Bottom line, if you're using money as justification, you know it's not gonna win the moral argument. The devils advocate line is just the 'Im just asking questions' grifter vibe.
So are you assuming he did it for money or do you think because one does it then all do it for that reason. Maybe he released the deck list for integrity reasons as some players sponsors had them on their 3rd party apps so he saw foul play and "evened the playing field". Or maybe we can assume he did it for both bc he benefits from his site and he also wants integrity to be kept? How do you know his motivation is money? If his motivation was truly only money then wouldn't he release the info behind the paid version of the site?
@@t3hi84n2gyou do realize that the fault falls on untapped gg for not keeps the lists private and not delayed for posting ALREADY PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO WANTED IT HAD ACCESS TO. So yeah maybe use your head for a min before spreading hate and misinformation?
@@lrvalv8312he didn’t release anything himself anyways. The blame falls solely on untapped for not keeps tournament deck lists private. This was effectively public information for anyone using the program which considering many tutorials for new players recommend the program to help build your deck I would assume A LOT of players are using it. Dekayed shouldn’t be throwing cheating accusations around with zero evidence but we can’t pretend he’s at fault for supposedly “leaking” info that was already public.
I think you should be able to look over your opponents deck list before a match and honestly at any time throughout the match.
Specially on master duel.
No
Any new dino decks or are we cooked?
Wait y'all have to sit through every single format on a single stream? How does that even work if its all happening at the same time throughout the weekend?
God that would ruin my ability to care about the event outright tbh
They could easily fix the issues with worlds but they clearly don’t care. Worlds could easily be some kind of yugioh card fest like a small scale pokemon worlds. Instead, they make it closed event. Nats and ycs are way more hype to watch than worlds. Also the stream was awful. More than half the screen was not gameplay. Konami just making weird choices time and time again
Pokemon is 9/10 People I meet on the street know, only a old person or two goes what? Lol. Yugioh, it's like 2/10 even have a clue on it. So Yes we need a better worlds, but we need better YCS first, like they improved but Euro >>>> is how they need to be done with a little more flash, then when they see the turn out and viewers rise you go grander for Wrold's. I will say this, The Finals Last year for World's for the card game I liked more the Japan showcase, the beginning rounds was widely mediocre in the presentation, the duels fine. This year presentation eh, Duel was fine. Master duel was stellar duel.
My opinion on it its not as bad as people are taking it to be. Could have dkayed handeld it better yes 100% but I do think he did it to preserve the integrity of the game. I understand people may not believe that or not like that and thats fine. The only thing I dont like is the dogpiling without any real reason to say anything besides hate bc its someone they dont like.
P.s. the reason I say he did it for integrity is bc i watch his streams and he always talks about way tournaments can be exploited and how he has to be strict on master duel players in his tournaments. His mindset is very much to assume everyone is cheating to help build a better competition by countering those possible flaws.
Next year they gunna throw a curveball and just make top 8 do a cube draft
Here's a format yugioh can tried that mtg success in, your boss monster is your duel master (commander in mtg).
They made that, it flopped horribly. Nobody wanted to actually play it.
@@TeamDreamhunter when? Are you talking about speed duels.
@@Shadowdrives they tried deckmaster format but that format would need a full overhaul on the banlist for it to be fine
Imagine if they didn't pay for your flight back only of you finished in like top 3, lmao
I see the shade you threw by cutting off the video. I see you
The only person who should be posting deck lists, is the pilot themselves idc
While I don't think Ruben cheated your defense isn't a valid one passion for the game means nothing many of the most passionate competitive people in many a community are found out to be cheaters because in their minds they deserved the win or they deserved the good luck
what was the cheating controversy?
Your chat is crazy. We like seeing tcg winning against OCG
Konami handing out the equivalent of toilet tissue for winning worlds. and the community mad at Dkayed for sharing public information.... ahh.. sounds like yugioh lol.
40 seconds ago is crazy
Give us a good dungeon dice 🤪
A league of legends yugioh game would be lit
Can I play competitive with a non meta deck?
Maybe run some bystials and d barrier and should be fine
No
Nope, you'll get bodied.
Wanna make a bet with me that you will? I'll play meta you play non competitive
Feel Free to Play Stun
I mean no one’s stopping you but your success will surely be limited at best. If your goal is to just get into the space and learn about the game then you don’t need to play the “best” deck but you should at least aim to play a “good” one that has a realistic gameplay in the current format. Otherwise you won’t be able to last long enough in a duel to realistically learn much. If expense is your issue I highly suggest master duel. You can build a meta deck for free over time and have a good time in the ranked ladder. Can help you decide if you even like the game before spending real money on real cards.
Ryzeal and malice 🎉🎉
3:51 or just standardize the formats Instead of having two for literally zero good reason. Bad take from chat there.
congrats to Ruben. But no shot I’m buying he didn’t cheat on purpose. If you play yubel at this level you absolutely know. you literally have to run a brick in chaos summoning beast because we know this.
On the other hand, cheating subtly is unfortunately a part of a lot of tops. The judges are at fault.
It literally did not change the outcome of the game at all. If you were to intentionally cheat at the World Fucking Championships, it would be doing something that actually affects the game state in a way that makes you win.
Is this talking about the adding the DBB off DBB? That literally had no impact whatsoever on the outcome of the game. Judges should've caught it but people make mistakes and luckily it didn't matter here. Not calling you out specifically but what is up recently with everyone assuming everyone wants to and will cheat, first with Dkayed's accusations, now this.
I'm pretty sure the flight home isnt evem first class 🥲
The real problem is you ninjas still going to keep playing the game than boycotting Komoney to fix it. You all still will keep going to the tournaments but then still complain about prizes. If you all stop going and stop buying cards to boycott the game for changes they will. But as long as you keep buying and going they won’t. It’s simple. If you all won’t stop then stop complaining
Pokemon does not have open decklists, people saying every other card game are flat out wrong.
Bruh it wasn't a video he made, it was on his website! This was not a revenue generated thing via a video for education. It was for clicks on the most popular website for master duel. Please update your video cuz you got this completely wrong. My guy doubled down and called someone who was at the event and called his actions out a cheater. I don't think there's room for devils advocate on this. The dude hosts tournaments and provides info for the game and did a watch party for the event. Ofc he cares about competitive Yu-Gi-Oh. So I ask that you please fix this cuz it seems like the research was not done
Hell even the software company that dkayed used, made a statement that this will no longer be a thing that can be done with the software cuz this was never intended and disavowed what dkayed did!
And look, I'm sorry if it seems like I'm harassing you but I just want the correct information out there
Hey do you know anything about why just local stores like targets and walmarts aren't carrying a ton of yugioh products anymore?
They are vendor provided. Walmart doesn't stock them themselves, the distributors do and stock them independently. If the store isn't profitable they stop distributing to that location.
Still waiting patiently for serious competitive DM to win worlds
Yugioh capsule monsters! Plz
Why did you reupload?
@@newbassva8673 it was the wrong video. 🤣
Day 141 of asking Cali to take fluffals to locals
lol he said do do in this video.
drums tho'
and snake eyes got the L for yubel
wheres the summon ash and make baronne play? lmao i was too early
Dreamy bull? You play yugioh?
Yugioh died after Synchros
The fact Dkayed didn’t stop to think about the consequences IS the issue-plus him just getting defensive and calling Judeu was GIGA corny
What consequences? Everyone's deck was up on the site anyways.
Tcg worlds was so bad. Master duel was way more entertaining
Why are you giving misinformation? Not to mention locals could have used worlds or tcg list
This better by good drama,I need it
Sorry but naw. If you're at worlds you should not be missplaying or unintentionally cheating that is CRAZY to defend that. How are you at worlds still doing that? Nahhhhh
Competitive my ass you won the Master Duel Championship and just won your self damn card a mat a throphy and a flight home wtf is Konami doing everyone was grinding their asses for points just to get those slots some are not even sleeping or eating properly and some dude just leaked the card pool yes a bit of a dck move but if you win the Championship what do you get for those time you've sacrificed those prizes lol no cash prize or what? TF heck I can make my own throphy and buy those cards and mats and call myself a champion and not waste time on grinding.
Lol wtf is that thumbnail
Bring Dungeon Dice monsters back
I dont care about Dkayed releasing everyones deck list, i do care that he did it before anyone played a single round. He couldve waited a day or two then released it. Instead he ruined the fun of competition
Dkayed is 100% in the wrong, as Untapped made a change to this.
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I'm not interested in Rush Duels personally.
Anyway, I don't see what Dkayed did wrong here. If the decklist is public knowledge then he's done nothing wrong and let's be honest a decklist for a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament isn't as important as a social security number.
It's not public knowledge. It was stolen information that he disseminated.
Kunami is fuckin lazy, they need to step up their game and stop being just "money" focused and give a fuck about the playerbase and the dam game itself. You do that and you'll make MORE money and bring MORE players in because YOU SHOW YOU CARE, ffs it's pathetic at this point how they are rn.
Probaly not so Bad then When Konami banned non Japanese from entering any Yugi tournaments. They banned any Person who does not Look like Japanese Even if they live in Japan.
im Jackie yugioh make a fighting game like Mvc2
jackin*
Why is his lips out of sync can’t watch this