I've done some work like this, primarily for exhausting laser cutters or dust collection for woodworking equipment. Usually, the hose is external to what's being clamped, which is why you're getting cracking. The hose is flexible and you can't clamp tightly against it. Switch which goes where and you should see better results. Plus, the coil is annoying to use a smooth clamp on, so they sell hose clamps that loop over a coil to mitigate that. Nice build, overall!
You'll wanna place the fan as close to the exhaust side as possible so that it pulls the air through the ducting rather than pushes it. If there are any holes in that ducting and the fan pushes the air , it will just push the air and fumes out back into the room again. By having the fan the other end then any holes will also pull air into the hose keeping fumes in the hose and exhausting it all outside
While your point about the absolute pressure is true. I'd also say that generally fans can't suck well. They only blow. That is, the efficiency, noise, and efficacy will likely be much better when pushing the air through rather than pulling it. I think this is likely not an issue with such a large unobstructive duct. But maybe it's worth considering for people doing this with something like a PC fan.
Wow, is this your first video? If you do more videos like this where you are providing great information and linking to all the files, I'm totally subscribing and watching all of them!
Starter printing in 2017 with the Tevo Tarantula, had some others, skipper the x1 and p1 because i still think its to expencive and got me an A1 half year ago. Its an crazy Awsome printer!! 330mm cubed in a P1p/A1 hybrid style with Ams Light Support and you have all you need 😍
Interesting idea. I have 2 printers now, my Ender 3 S1, and Bambu Lab A1 (I guess I like models ending in the number 1), sometimes I print on both at the same time, and they are both in my main room of my apartment with no ventilation or filtering. I did just buy a small spray booth which vents air outside so I can sand and use my airbrush inside, instead of putting it off because I have to go outside to do so. I feel like the Bambu has more of a smell when printing, or I just never noticed it with the Ender. Nice video! the music is slightly loud, and it's kind of distracting when you are looking at what I assume is your phone's screen instead of the camera lens.
Haha, thanks for the feedback. Just like the engineering - making videos is an iterative adventure. I am going to do my best to improve with each one! Thanks for watching!
the only other solution for noise (without sacrificing airflow) i could think of is putting the fan outside and using a brushless fan so it's thinner and quieter. and then to reduce footprint, have the tuba's body as articulating stem that you can move around like a snake and lock position anywhere. i would prefer the suction to be above the 3d printer bed because it's warmer air and tends to go upwards.
@@pearigee I also like this model, adding to my liked list to print myself. BTW I have created my very own model I think you might like. It's a Spool Removal Tool for the AMS lite.
I am guessing, you're talking about ASA, ABS, etc. regarding the fumes? As I did some of my own testing with Air Quality on PLA, PETG & TPU and they all pass air quality from my own findings. The reason I did it, is that I "might" be renting out a business unit as long I can provide enough documentation of the machines I am putting into the shop (As it's an indoor Market area with different stall units) are safe for bypassers / nearby shops. The results so far... The fumes are so much safer than a nail salon XD lol
Great design. As an idea for the problem, instead of clamps, you could try a flexible cover (if you can print flexible material) to connect the two parts and seal the air. After that, you can support the weight of the motor without worrying about sealing issues and avoid high strain. Changing the printing orientation could also be a solution.
Yeah! Using flexible material for the interface is a great idea. I don’t have much experience with flexible materials, but it’s probably time I start giving it a try. Thanks for the comment!
Cool. I've been looking to do a very similar thing, but I have to run the conduit up over the ceiling, to a tiny window on the far end of my office. I do want an enclosure, though, so I can do things like ABS in my office, with zero fumes, and figured I'd have to use a very low-flow fan, just enough to take the fumes away, and ensure negative pressure, but without cooling down the enclosure.
For what it’s worth I had zero issues hearing you. Maybe it’s a device specific thing? I tried with both air pods and phone speaker and couldn’t discern a difference; it’s was perfectly clear and audible.
I placed my 4 printers in another room as they make too much noise to have in the same room and since I'm only printing PLA+ and PETG, I dont really need a ventilation for them
@@pearigeeI would think you could add a slight down spout outside the window after the fan. It’s kind of like what we do to keep water out of semi truck exhaust stacks when they bend them slightly at the top. Perhaps the outside method could allow for a larger diameter, slower, but quieter fan option
That’s a good question. So far I haven’t had any issues. I made the horn shape very wide to avoid tightly focusing the air. Time will tell though, it’s a valid concern. The ventilation fan I chose has adjustable speed, so it could be turned down to reduce airflow if needed. The distance to the printer is another variable that could be tuned. I’ll be sure to update the video or do a follow up if I ever run into problems! Thanks for watching and the comment!
Good question! Mostly it was just to make it easy to hang the ventilation unit below the intake. A strait hosed design could be an improvement! Appreciate the thought!
Love the build and walking through the design process. I think you've found a great solution & accessible solution to yours and many other's problems. The noise is an interesting issue, it definitely seemed loud from the video. It's either the fan vibrations or turbulent flow. For the turbulent flow, the fan could be contributing as well, and a big improvement could be to reduce / optimize the angles in your intake and duct work as every sharp angle will cause turbulent flow. This video looked informative: ruclips.net/video/_eWUfYgOMmQ/видео.html. It may also be worth considering attaching the mesh filter to the largest portion of your intake. Keep these videos up, you have a talent for engineering & content creation!
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Thanks so much for this. It will be my first major print once I setup my new A1
I've done some work like this, primarily for exhausting laser cutters or dust collection for woodworking equipment. Usually, the hose is external to what's being clamped, which is why you're getting cracking. The hose is flexible and you can't clamp tightly against it. Switch which goes where and you should see better results. Plus, the coil is annoying to use a smooth clamp on, so they sell hose clamps that loop over a coil to mitigate that.
Nice build, overall!
@@ahero4heor thanks for the thoughts/advice!
0:04 my first solution would be to add another outlet 😄
This is so great!! I love hearing the thought process behind the project and all the adjustments you made. Welcome to the RUclips world!!!
You'll wanna place the fan as close to the exhaust side as possible so that it pulls the air through the ducting rather than pushes it. If there are any holes in that ducting and the fan pushes the air , it will just push the air and fumes out back into the room again. By having the fan the other end then any holes will also pull air into the hose keeping fumes in the hose and exhausting it all outside
Thanks for the insightful comment. That makes sense to me, it’s definitely work exploring different fan positions.
While your point about the absolute pressure is true. I'd also say that generally fans can't suck well. They only blow. That is, the efficiency, noise, and efficacy will likely be much better when pushing the air through rather than pulling it. I think this is likely not an issue with such a large unobstructive duct. But maybe it's worth considering for people doing this with something like a PC fan.
Amazing design. I was just thinking of designing but you did it better . Thank you for your contribution
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video! I literally had the same idea in my head a few weeks ago but I have no engineering or CAD skills 😂 so thank you!
Hope it works out for you! Thanks for watching. :)
@@pearigee I think it will. Thank you and you're welcome! I gave you a boost on Maker World.
This was such a neat video, thank you for the inspiration
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. :)
Wow, is this your first video? If you do more videos like this where you are providing great information and linking to all the files, I'm totally subscribing and watching all of them!
Why wouldn't you just.. subscribe and see? Else you'll possibly never find them again if they do. 😂
Starter printing in 2017 with the Tevo Tarantula, had some others, skipper the x1 and p1 because i still think its to expencive and got me an A1 half year ago. Its an crazy Awsome printer!! 330mm cubed in a P1p/A1 hybrid style with Ams Light Support and you have all you need 😍
The A1 is awesome! Excited for Bambu’s next one.
really cool video, thanks for shring the files! hope you make some more!
I’ve got another one in the works! Thanks for the comment!
Beauty design!
Interesting idea. I have 2 printers now, my Ender 3 S1, and Bambu Lab A1 (I guess I like models ending in the number 1), sometimes I print on both at the same time, and they are both in my main room of my apartment with no ventilation or filtering. I did just buy a small spray booth which vents air outside so I can sand and use my airbrush inside, instead of putting it off because I have to go outside to do so. I feel like the Bambu has more of a smell when printing, or I just never noticed it with the Ender. Nice video! the music is slightly loud, and it's kind of distracting when you are looking at what I assume is your phone's screen instead of the camera lens.
Haha, thanks for the feedback. Just like the engineering - making videos is an iterative adventure. I am going to do my best to improve with each one!
Thanks for watching!
the only other solution for noise (without sacrificing airflow) i could think of is putting the fan outside and using a brushless fan so it's thinner and quieter. and then to reduce footprint, have the tuba's body as articulating stem that you can move around like a snake and lock position anywhere. i would prefer the suction to be above the 3d printer bed because it's warmer air and tends to go upwards.
Very interesting and informative video, thank you.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
🎉nice vid man. Welcome to RUclips!
Thanks! :D
@@pearigee I also like this model, adding to my liked list to print myself.
BTW I have created my very own model I think you might like. It's a Spool Removal Tool for the AMS lite.
So cool! Enjoyed watching, good job. Miss you man hope all is well :)
@@PubsArt Pubs!! Miss you too. Hope you and the family are well. Would love to catch up soon!
Great video mate!
Thanks :D
I am guessing, you're talking about ASA, ABS, etc. regarding the fumes? As I did some of my own testing with Air Quality on PLA, PETG & TPU and they all pass air quality from my own findings.
The reason I did it, is that I "might" be renting out a business unit as long I can provide enough documentation of the machines I am putting into the shop (As it's an indoor Market area with different stall units) are safe for bypassers / nearby shops.
The results so far... The fumes are so much safer than a nail salon XD lol
Great design. As an idea for the problem, instead of clamps, you could try a flexible cover (if you can print flexible material) to connect the two parts and seal the air. After that, you can support the weight of the motor without worrying about sealing issues and avoid high strain. Changing the printing orientation could also be a solution.
Yeah! Using flexible material for the interface is a great idea. I don’t have much experience with flexible materials, but it’s probably time I start giving it a try.
Thanks for the comment!
Cool. I've been looking to do a very similar thing, but I have to run the conduit up over the ceiling, to a tiny window on the far end of my office. I do want an enclosure, though, so I can do things like ABS in my office, with zero fumes, and figured I'd have to use a very low-flow fan, just enough to take the fumes away, and ensure negative pressure, but without cooling down the enclosure.
Yeah, pairing with an enclosure would definitely be the most robust solution. Especially for stuff like ABS.
Thanks for the comment!
Nice Mod. I hope you can do a rectangular one for multiple printers
Great work! Subbed
@@TitoSabbyPH A multiple printer configuration is definitely interesting!
Thanks for the comment and sub!
Place a 180 mm fan on the other side to improve airflow. There are brands that sell very quiet fans, such as be quiet
Mars Hydro grow fan, nothing beats that thing man, holy candle smokes..
There is definitely lots of room for optimization with fan choice and placement. Appreciate the suggestions!
It’s very difficult to hear you over the music
Thanks for the feedback. I will try to adjust in future content.
@@pearigeejust have it quieter but keep the music
For what it’s worth I had zero issues hearing you. Maybe it’s a device specific thing? I tried with both air pods and phone speaker and couldn’t discern a difference; it’s was perfectly clear and audible.
Maybe you could replace the cone with propellers model to reduce the noise and keep the air flow
That’s an interesting thought! Hadn’t considered a moving component. Apologies if I am misunderstanding the suggestion.
Just my 2 cent instead a oval maybe long narrow round remains me of one of those record players.
It does have classic record player vibes.
Nice design tough
I placed my 4 printers in another room as they make too much noise to have in the same room and since I'm only printing PLA+ and PETG, I dont really need a ventilation for them
nice video! maybe placing the fan outside the window would reduce noise?
Dude! That is a brilliant idea! I would just need to figure out how to weather proof it. 🤔
@@pearigeeI would think you could add a slight down spout outside the window after the fan. It’s kind of like what we do to keep water out of semi truck exhaust stacks when they bend them slightly at the top. Perhaps the outside method could allow for a larger diameter, slower, but quieter fan option
Which size clamp did you print from the links you provided to suit your print? Amazing job very keen to print this
@@ryannawrotzky4488 I used the “Größe M Lang” clamp size.
Thanks for the comment! Hope it works out for you!
Do you think you’re creating a current that could accidentally cool your filament extrusion?
Actually legit question.
That’s a good question. So far I haven’t had any issues. I made the horn shape very wide to avoid tightly focusing the air.
Time will tell though, it’s a valid concern. The ventilation fan I chose has adjustable speed, so it could be turned down to reduce airflow if needed. The distance to the printer is another variable that could be tuned.
I’ll be sure to update the video or do a follow up if I ever run into problems! Thanks for watching and the comment!
@@pearigee very cool project though! Great video and design.
Neat! What is the AR program you used to preview your design?
That is the AR visualization functionality in Shapr3D on the iPad. Really lovely app! Highly recommend.
If you can export your model as a .usdz you should be able to preview it like that on basically any ios device
What's the purpose of having that dip in your hose vs just a straight way to the window?
Good question! Mostly it was just to make it easy to hang the ventilation unit below the intake. A strait hosed design could be an improvement! Appreciate the thought!
Cool
hey i just wanted to know if its okay if I copy your design for my 3D printer
Go for it! I linked to the model files in the description. Feel free to download or modify (or just use the idea). Thanks for watching!
@@pearigee o thank you
What CAD software is that?
@@rodrigob it’s Shapr3D on the iPad. Great software, very easy to use.
Love the build and walking through the design process. I think you've found a great solution & accessible solution to yours and many other's problems.
The noise is an interesting issue, it definitely seemed loud from the video. It's either the fan vibrations or turbulent flow. For the turbulent flow, the fan could be contributing as well, and a big improvement could be to reduce / optimize the angles in your intake and duct work as every sharp angle will cause turbulent flow. This video looked informative: ruclips.net/video/_eWUfYgOMmQ/видео.html. It may also be worth considering attaching the mesh filter to the largest portion of your intake.
Keep these videos up, you have a talent for engineering & content creation!
Pla does not do that much of VOC
Awesome video, sub #76 I am now!
Thanks! :D Appreciate the comment and your subscription. Another video is coming soon!
Nice one! 3DP makes life easier and you do have fun there! Any interest to any potential collab together? (PCBWay zoey)