Obligatory "monkeys and microwaves" quote from the book (referenced during Holden and Bobbie's radio chat): "It killed humans, therefore it was a weapon. But radiation killed humans, and a medical X-ray machine wasn’t intended as a weapon. Holden was starting to feel like they were all monkeys playing with a microwave. Push a button, a light comes on inside, so it’s a light. Push a different button and stick your hand inside, it burns you, so it’s a weapon. Learn to open and close the door, it’s a place to hide things. Never grasping what it actually did, and maybe not even having the framework necessary to figure it out. No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito." Monkey, Mozart.
@@josephdocis1488 Yes, I love it. And it goes so much deeper, I mean, when you think of it, it's not only about understanding what a microwave is really for. To get the reference, you (as in your civilisation) need to know what a burrito is, you need to know the concept of complex receipes, you need the knowledge how to source all the ingredients, you need to know about industrialised food production und distribution, you need to know what deep freezing food does and how to do it, about electricity to run all of those operations and then the most important step needs to be so obiqutous that even a layperson can handle the task of reheating.
I love that quote in the books, and how they managed to obliquely reference it in the TV show. One thing I will say though is that Mozart never reheated a frozen burrito either 😉
The way Belters, Martians and Earthers go through the ring, really is a condensed lesson on how their respective collective cultures work. Belters: they give a rousing speach about owning the void, celebrate a crazy idiot in love who got splattered jumping into an alien hole and then jump into the unknown with a battlecry on their stolen church turned battleship becuse they want a seat at the big boys table. Martians: they don't tell shit to anyone, send in a probe to scout for dangers, then carefully and coldly move in not to discover the wonders of the mysterious alien artifact but driven by their "police" mission to apprehend a suspect, ignoring everything else and the possible damage they could cause. Earthers: they send a bunch of random people including philosophers, priests and artists to the butt-crack of the solar system to witness the big alien thing and try to make sense of it, when things start going south, they send most people packing with only a bunch actually going through the ring while completely shitting themselves with half their people try to run away or "accidentaly discharging" their weapons. Without telling you anything, they told you everything. Man I love this show lol.
When Miller was trying to describe what was in the center ball, he said something like "sometimes I know stuff that's too big for my head". This reminds me of a term I heard in a SF novel called "A Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor Vinge. The term is "Godshatter"; it happens when you try to stuff too much knowledge or too advanced concepts into a primitive brain. The message or meaning can get fragmented and distorted. When Miller was talking with Holden about Eros and Julie, they music changed and reminded me of the Home episode. Beautifully done. I think Lovecraft would have liked The Expanse. I am so happy that you are appreciating it as well!
@WarpedReactor , i feel so guilt that i LOVE seeing your reaction as the episode comes to an end on a cliffhanger. We all know its going tonhappen, but tou just cant help but be hooked to the show. 😂 "You motherfu......" 😂
@@smith22041 So, insurance fraud, then... The official record should reflect what really happened: He died from an inability to reconcile his wholly irrational belief system with the reality that was presented to him. Sad, but sure as fock not the insurance company's problem! Now, everyone with the same life insurance is collectively paying for his senseless act of cowardice. Not to mention that whatever function he served on the ship, should it be necessary for the survival of others, is now up in the air. His absence is risking even more lives! He doesn't deserve the lie that will make him a fallen hero, and his parents deserve to be reminded of what they might have started by filling his head with doom and gloom. I would like to think that as we go out into the expanse, we might stop indoctrinating young minds with unsubstantiated nonsense... We need rational observations, not wishful fabulations, if we are to learn anything worthwhile beyond this tiny world. Let's leave the childish fables behind, shall we?
They should _definitely_ be listing it as suicide, though. How many suicides are there in the military? Well none, obviously. Clearly it's not a problem, right? Don't need to put any resources towards it then. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it not a problem.
Great reaction and analysis Warp! I love that you still call it the Nauvoo! 😂 Amos " Like a f*cking Pharoah!" Severely enjoying your journey! Looking forward to the next one!
I like that Clarissa is trying to motivate herself to keep up her mode of revenge only to see footage of the man she's chasing after is just a goofball.
Just a nomenclature check: A sun (star) with its family of planets is a "solar system." When capitalized, the term refers to our Solar System. A "galaxy" is a collection of solar systems orbiting a huge gravity well at the center -- almost always a Black Hole. The "Milky Way Galaxy" is our galaxy, the home of our Solar System. Our Solar System is one of 100 *billion* to 400 *billion* star systems in the Milky Way Galaxy alone (although the actual number is probably on the lower end of that range). Every star we can see with a normal telescope lies within 1,500 light years of our Solar System -- a sphere 3,000 light years in diameter. The Milky Way Galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter -- so every star we can see with normal telescopes lies within barely three percent of that distance -- and the sphere is a *tiny fraction* of the Milky Way's total volume.
The Investigator is destroyed and rebuilt if he exceeds his operational boundaries. I think Julie was one of those boundaries and perhaps the memories weren't even available to him. He said he didn’t want to talk about Julie early on. To manipulate Holden into doing what it wants, Miller disappears and the PM reprograms Miller with Julie memories. He reappears in a wistful posture for effect and reminisces about Julie. The PM is a manipulative bastard and Holden fell for it completely.
Book 3 has some amazing imagery. Book 4 also. The name “Dandelion Sky” was what Alex called it in book 3, because it looked like being on the inside of a Dandelion before the wind blows the seeds away. Also in the book, Anna is part of an entire contingent of scholars and religious leaders going to the ring. A “dog and pony show”
I'm glad there isn't a obligatory drinking game that you have to take a shot every time "Bobbie 'f---king' Draper" is mentioned. Everyone would be unable to drive car after each reaction. :D
honestly it applies to 3 different concepts: the expanse of humans into the Solar System eventually out to the Ring past Uranus; then the strange space, aka The Slow Zone inside the bubble - eventually opening the multiple apertures seen in his vision, and the sheer number of stars to visit. Also, that vision showed us all what a hot dude Steven Strait really is.. pale, perhaps, but quite the stud. And as a former actor I have insane respect for anyone willing to do that scene.
everytime we get here with a reactor, I always say "Welcome to the real expanse" but we're not there yet, I thought we were, but no. so: Dude! Spoilers!
I'm glad you mentioned that you appreciate the warning on the Delta-V episode. There were several posts saying that the warning did not matter at all and we had a discussion about it.
My theory about Miller appearing (I genuinely have no idea): The protomolecule does weird stuff to appear in a form the recipient is comfortable with. (Nobody tell me if I'm right, or you'll spoil it for Warp Reactor as well as for me)
On the other hand if the aliens were still alive, by starting the events on Eros he would have given them what they wanted and the human race most likely would have been paved over.
Spot on with the idea that this ancient civilization used the protomolecule as a sort of self-replicating entity (aka a Von Neumann probe) to facilitate automated construction of rings to connect back to this pocket space, acting as a sort of road-building mechanism for the galaxy (maybe beyond). It's this reason most of the book readers have taken to nicknaming this civilization "The Romans". But now you get to try and figure out what Holden's vision meant!
Given that the "probes" have to be sent physically, and at speeds that can get caught by gravity wells, I don't think any can have reached another galaxy, even in billions of years.
Someone else alreadyquoted Monkeys and Microwaves, so i don't have to do it :) 14:15 IIRC what i learned from a discussion when this came out: Suicides in the Military often tend to get judged as "accidental discharge while cleaning the sidearm", because that makes it a service-related casuality and thus gives an eventual widow(er) a survivors pension, while if it was ruled a suicide they would get nothing. It's likely that this is still the case in the UN Navy.
Lovecraft- first heard about that on the T&TG podcast- now this. Damn you’re good!! But what I love about this universe is the hard sci fi and near tech of seasons 1 & 2. Protomolecule is like “magic” but tangible especially as referring to civilisations from a few billion years ago. So this still feels like hard sci fi- not fantasy. I’m off to Wikipedia Lovecraft now
Can't just check Wikipedia--gotta read his stuff! Nothing like it. (Warning: he was a racist piece of garbage and the stories sometimes go there. If you view it as the voice of racist narrators, it's not too awful.)
quite the memorable short-term supporting role... and supporting meaning A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING by the end of the role! HAHAHAHAHA .. I so funny.. I kill myself. Would you belive after all these years that thought/pun literally just occurred to me for the first time ?? o.0 This is why Ive watched at least a dozen different reactors for the series. I get to relieve it again
It should be noticeable that Proto-Miller can communicate with the Sphere, but can't control it. Proto-Miller is the Ring-building device still pursuing its programming. The Sphere is a different Protomolecule device with a different purpose, which the Ring-building device doesn't even fully know. Different devices running the same operating system, but different devices nevertheless. Ashford would rather be captain, but he's aware that outright mutiny is an evil genie that can't be stuffed back into is bottle. It's very possible to write about a character acting in their faith merely as a means of explaining the motivation of that character, without it being a substantive issue of the overall plot or a mechanism of the writer's personal viewpoint. Joseph Michael Straczynski did that very will in several episodes of Babylon 5. Errinwright had mentioned Mao's second daughter twice, once by name. He called her Mao's "...second daughter he adores." Interesting that the Protomolecule builders didn't make _everything_ automatic, but left at least this one thing needing a material being to operate. Yes, that last energy bolt destroyed our Solar System. If you freeze the action sequentially (I'm that much a nerd), you can see the beam speed past Saturn, Jupiter, and the four inner planets to strike and destroy Sol. But was that a revelation of what the Sphere _intends_ to do, or a warning of what it's capable of doing?
Your reactions are so good, especially your theories. Almost always so close to what's going on (which is impressive), yet missing by a few degrees. Doors and corners. Calculus - amoeba. :) Love re-experiencing The Expanse through your eyes.
That's the point when there's been enough hints dropped that I can safely say: We are currently in Antarctica, coming from Arkham U. 🙃 In many ways The Expanse is also Babylon 5 in exceedingly more realistic, not only tech-wise but especially in the way things play out and are perceived by the people involved, it's *so very much* grounded in psychological reality. Best regards Raoul G. Kunz
Yep Ty/Daniel are to this day completely unapologetic about the rabid fanboys they are for Babylon 5 and it's creator. I've no doubt that JMS (colloquial shorthand) is profoundly pleased that his work of over a quarter century before could inspire this masterwork.
I want to say so much but holding back because of spoilers lol. Do you plan on reading the books after you're done with the show? Great reaction on this one! Loved the discussion at the end.
I think I read somewhere that the authors were thinking originally to use Dandelion Sky as title for the third book instead of Abaddon's Gate. I hope I'm not wrong. I don't know why, but feels very poetic: Dandelion sky 😍❤
I was gonna say one thing, but your after episode thoughts lead into another direction! however, Miller said something about locked doors, what do you make of that with your elevator idea? we'll get to see how right you are in just a couple of episodes. and I'm guessing you are far ahead, No? Take care, my friend! see you next time!
Unfortunately images cannot convey what Holden actually experienced in that vision. For that you will have to read the book. What you/we have seen is only a fraction of what he has experienced.
I know as a queer man I was pleasantly surprised to find out what a fine body Steven has. He's such a brainiac out of character.. it's a wonderful thought that there might be a guy out there who is both physically a brilliant specimen, and has an amazing mind and sense of humor. Too bad I'm 62 and pretty much past the point such a person might be interested in me. Still, nice to imagine.
It isn't a reaction of The Expanse unless WarpReactor swears because the episode ends too quickly for him. LOL I like hearing your theories about how you think this story will evolve. If I was having a beer with you, I would have to stick a knife in my hand to avoid spoiling anything because "I'm not that guy."
@@helldvan Yep, that's a frikking spoiler. - Those who have already watched the show know it and don't care. - Those who haven't yet don't want to know. So why do you have to do this? Want to look smart? Yeah, you are indeed.
@@pspirto8014 That why i typed it this way so it will be under "expand" button. If it not and i messed something - i'll add more empty space. Why so agressive?
The only weak part in the whole adaptation is the vision that Holden experiences. In the books is one of the best Lovecraftian things ever written, it’s so visceral, mysterious and at the same time perfectly communicates just how godlike was the power of the civilization that inhabited the ring space.
I think that is just the inherent problem with where you can go inside your head with text (Holden's internal monologue) and where you can go on screen. While what they did doesn't measure up to what is conveyed in the books, I think the production did an excellent visual story which retained mystery and awe, and provided a cliffhanger, and will be fleshed out in a couple of pieces of dialogue over the next couple of episodes. The TV show has much more mystery, tension, drama and conflict than the books whereas the books have much more detail and overall material. I like that they are their own parallel universe of each other.
There wasn't a great way to explain _why_ the speed limit changed in the show. The station knew that fast moving things could be dangerous which was why things were slow, it never realised that slow moving things could also be dangerous until the grenade went off and damaged it. The protomolecule technology in its default state is _extremely_ reactionary. Bad thing happens, stop anything remotely related to bad thing from happening again.
It's rare that I have any complaints about your reactions, but I thought I should state my opinion anyway, I apoligize if I'm being annoying. I wish that your thought process hadn't been so influenced by the comments. I feel like it distracted you from the actual story taking place. You praised the acting of the side character so much, but didn't even discuss that storyline besides mentioning religion in general.
First off I never find thoughtful comments annoying, my friend, and I truly appreciate hearing what everyone is thinking. The only reason I didn't touch on that storyline is because it's difficult for me to talk about suicide. Normally I use humor as a defense mechanism but that doesn't come off real well with that particular subject. I hope that makes sense. Thank you for both your opinion and for watching, my friend!
Obligatory "monkeys and microwaves" quote from the book (referenced during Holden and Bobbie's radio chat):
"It killed humans, therefore it was a weapon. But radiation killed humans, and a medical X-ray machine wasn’t intended as a weapon. Holden was starting to feel like they were all monkeys playing with a microwave. Push a button, a light comes on inside, so it’s a light. Push a different button and stick your hand inside, it burns you, so it’s a weapon. Learn to open and close the door, it’s a place to hide things. Never grasping what it actually did, and maybe not even having the framework necessary to figure it out. No monkey ever reheated a frozen burrito."
Monkey, Mozart.
I love that this quote shows up in the comments on every reaction to this episode. It so perfectly captures the theme of this season.
@@josephdocis1488 Yes, I love it. And it goes so much deeper, I mean, when you think of it, it's not only about understanding what a microwave is really for. To get the reference, you (as in your civilisation) need to know what a burrito is, you need to know the concept of complex receipes, you need the knowledge how to source all the ingredients, you need to know about industrialised food production und distribution, you need to know what deep freezing food does and how to do it, about electricity to run all of those operations and then the most important step needs to be so obiqutous that even a layperson can handle the task of reheating.
Was just about to post this exact quote haha..... Great minds think alike :D
I love that quote in the books, and how they managed to obliquely reference it in the TV show. One thing I will say though is that Mozart never reheated a frozen burrito either 😉
The Expanse has the best single episode side characters of any show I've ever watched. They just don't miss
Really good point!
Just like side character Lt. Jordaan Nemeroff didn't miss!.. Alright, I'll see myself out
@@anthonydakhin4225 HAHAHAHA oh man
The way Belters, Martians and Earthers go through the ring, really is a condensed lesson on how their respective collective cultures work.
Belters: they give a rousing speach about owning the void, celebrate a crazy idiot in love who got splattered jumping into an alien hole and then jump into the unknown with a battlecry on their stolen church turned battleship becuse they want a seat at the big boys table.
Martians: they don't tell shit to anyone, send in a probe to scout for dangers, then carefully and coldly move in not to discover the wonders of the mysterious alien artifact but driven by their "police" mission to apprehend a suspect, ignoring everything else and the possible damage they could cause.
Earthers: they send a bunch of random people including philosophers, priests and artists to the butt-crack of the solar system to witness the big alien thing and try to make sense of it, when things start going south, they send most people packing with only a bunch actually going through the ring while completely shitting themselves with half their people try to run away or "accidentaly discharging" their weapons.
Without telling you anything, they told you everything. Man I love this show lol.
Absolute brilliant encapsulation 😂
When Miller was trying to describe what was in the center ball, he said something like "sometimes I know stuff that's too big for my head". This reminds me of a term I heard in a SF novel called "A Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor Vinge. The term is "Godshatter"; it happens when you try to stuff too much knowledge or too advanced concepts into a primitive brain. The message or meaning can get fragmented and distorted.
When Miller was talking with Holden about Eros and Julie, they music changed and reminded me of the Home episode. Beautifully done.
I think Lovecraft would have liked The Expanse. I am so happy that you are appreciating it as well!
@WarpedReactor , i feel so guilt that i LOVE seeing your reaction as the episode comes to an end on a cliffhanger. We all know its going tonhappen, but tou just cant help but be hooked to the show.
😂
"You motherfu......"
😂
“Accidental discharge” is one of those euphemisms where everyone knows exactly what it means but it looks good for the file.
I think it is also for any payments to family that would be canceled in case of suicide.
@@smith22041 So, insurance fraud, then...
The official record should reflect what really happened: He died from an inability to reconcile his wholly irrational belief system with the reality that was presented to him.
Sad, but sure as fock not the insurance company's problem! Now, everyone with the same life insurance is collectively paying for his senseless act of cowardice. Not to mention that whatever function he served on the ship, should it be necessary for the survival of others, is now up in the air. His absence is risking even more lives! He doesn't deserve the lie that will make him a fallen hero, and his parents deserve to be reminded of what they might have started by filling his head with doom and gloom.
I would like to think that as we go out into the expanse, we might stop indoctrinating young minds with unsubstantiated nonsense... We need rational observations, not wishful fabulations, if we are to learn anything worthwhile beyond this tiny world. Let's leave the childish fables behind, shall we?
They should _definitely_ be listing it as suicide, though. How many suicides are there in the military? Well none, obviously. Clearly it's not a problem, right? Don't need to put any resources towards it then. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it not a problem.
Great reaction and analysis Warp!
I love that you still call it the Nauvoo! 😂
Amos " Like a f*cking Pharoah!"
Severely enjoying your journey!
Looking forward to the next one!
"I'd like to buy the casting director a drink"
by reacting to the show, you have. 🤟😎
I like that Clarissa is trying to motivate herself to keep up her mode of revenge only to see footage of the man she's chasing after is just a goofball.
i thought she was getting pissed about that too cuz he was not taking it seriously/being obnoxious
Just a nomenclature check:
A sun (star) with its family of planets is a "solar system." When capitalized, the term refers to our Solar System.
A "galaxy" is a collection of solar systems orbiting a huge gravity well at the center -- almost always a Black Hole.
The "Milky Way Galaxy" is our galaxy, the home of our Solar System.
Our Solar System is one of 100 *billion* to 400 *billion* star systems in the Milky Way Galaxy alone (although the actual number is probably on the lower end of that range).
Every star we can see with a normal telescope lies within 1,500 light years of our Solar System -- a sphere 3,000 light years in diameter.
The Milky Way Galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter -- so every star we can see with normal telescopes lies within barely three percent of that distance -- and the sphere is a *tiny fraction* of the Milky Way's total volume.
My friend, thank you for this!
our solar system is normally either referenced as "The Solar System" or the "Sol" system
I have literally been waiting for Expanse Day!! 🎉 can't wait to get off work tonight and watch your reaction.
Always love your "You motherfuckers!" I feel the same at the end of every one of your reactions, cuz I just want to watch you watch the next one!
The Investigator is destroyed and rebuilt if he exceeds his operational boundaries. I think Julie was one of those boundaries and perhaps the memories weren't even available to him. He said he didn’t want to talk about Julie early on.
To manipulate Holden into doing what it wants, Miller disappears and the PM reprograms Miller with Julie memories. He reappears in a wistful posture for effect and reminisces about Julie. The PM is a manipulative bastard and Holden fell for it completely.
Love your Expanse reactions. One of the few things to look forward to weekly.
Book 3 has some amazing imagery. Book 4 also.
The name “Dandelion Sky” was what Alex called it in book 3, because it looked like being on the inside of a Dandelion before the wind blows the seeds away.
Also in the book, Anna is part of an entire contingent of scholars and religious leaders going to the ring. A “dog and pony show”
The contingent of religious leaders, artists, scholars, philosophers, etc. were mentioned in the news report that Maneo saw in the show
I HATE THURSDAYS!!!
Cuz they are only The Expance Day... we need dayS
I'm glad there isn't a obligatory drinking game that you have to take a shot every time "Bobbie 'f---king' Draper" is mentioned. Everyone would be unable to drive car after each reaction. :D
The soundtrack in this episode is particularly good. Clinton Shorter very much deserves some credit for setting the mood.
There it is, the reason this show is named what it is… that Dandelion Sky. The true Expanse.
Beautifully said.
honestly it applies to 3 different concepts: the expanse of humans into the Solar System eventually out to the Ring past Uranus; then the strange space, aka The Slow Zone inside the bubble - eventually opening the multiple apertures seen in his vision, and the sheer number of stars to visit.
Also, that vision showed us all what a hot dude Steven Strait really is.. pale, perhaps, but quite the stud. And as a former actor I have insane respect for anyone willing to do that scene.
everytime we get here with a reactor, I always say "Welcome to the real expanse" but we're not there yet, I thought we were, but no. so: Dude! Spoilers!
Remember when we told you back in season 1, and also 2, that "these aren't real cliffhangers"? Now you know why. ;)
you just HAD to say "blows my mind" right before the handsome dude exactly that...
I'm glad you mentioned that you appreciate the warning on the Delta-V episode. There were several posts saying that the warning did not matter at all and we had a discussion about it.
YES!!! Let’s gooooo!!! Comment for the boost and algorithm (: thanks once again for the great reaction 🎉
Appreciate it, my friend!
regarding billions of years ago... that is also apparently how long Phoebe has been a captured satellite of Saturn....
My theory about Miller appearing (I genuinely have no idea): The protomolecule does weird stuff to appear in a form the recipient is comfortable with. (Nobody tell me if I'm right, or you'll spoil it for Warp Reactor as well as for me)
"Without this work humanity will be unarmed, ignorant, vulnerable to an enemy that has already fired the first shot!"
-Dresden
On the other hand if the aliens were still alive, by starting the events on Eros he would have given them what they wanted and the human race most likely would have been paved over.
That WAS our Solar System.
Yellow sub, and pov flies past identifiable Jupiter and Saturn.
It was a warning.
Spot on with the idea that this ancient civilization used the protomolecule as a sort of self-replicating entity (aka a Von Neumann probe) to facilitate automated construction of rings to connect back to this pocket space, acting as a sort of road-building mechanism for the galaxy (maybe beyond).
It's this reason most of the book readers have taken to nicknaming this civilization "The Romans".
But now you get to try and figure out what Holden's vision meant!
Given that the "probes" have to be sent physically, and at speeds that can get caught by gravity wells, I don't think any can have reached another galaxy, even in billions of years.
I love the angry, exacerbated curse at the end.
"Ohyoumotherfuckers!"
All one word, such genuine hate, spoken for an end title sequence.
I love how your initial theory was both right and wrong. I’m really enjoying your reactions, especially when the episodes end 😂
The episode title is important but the explanation contains spoilers so I'll tell you in a couple of episodes 🤟😎
I love your breakdowns and reactions to this wonderful show. I do sometimes get worried about your blood pressure getting high. Keep up the work!
Expanse day Baby !!!!
Someone else alreadyquoted Monkeys and Microwaves, so i don't have to do it :)
14:15 IIRC what i learned from a discussion when this came out: Suicides in the Military often tend to get judged as "accidental discharge while cleaning the sidearm", because that makes it a service-related casuality and thus gives an eventual widow(er) a survivors pension, while if it was ruled a suicide they would get nothing. It's likely that this is still the case in the UN Navy.
I still think that this is one of the best episode titles ever.
Hold onto your seat, the next three episodes are gonna be amazing.
And now you know what this is - it's not an elevator - it's the fucking Main Station.
Lovecraft- first heard about that on the T&TG podcast- now this. Damn you’re good!!
But what I love about this universe is the hard sci fi and near tech of seasons 1 & 2.
Protomolecule is like “magic” but tangible especially as referring to civilisations from a few billion years ago.
So this still feels like hard sci fi- not fantasy.
I’m off to Wikipedia Lovecraft now
Can't just check Wikipedia--gotta read his stuff! Nothing like it. (Warning: he was a racist piece of garbage and the stories sometimes go there. If you view it as the voice of racist narrators, it's not too awful.)
All that's left behind is a bunch of locked doors and corners.
Of note; the actor playing the Martian that gets torn apart is Simu Liu, best known for playing Shang-Chi in the MCU film 😯😯😯
quite the memorable short-term supporting role... and supporting meaning A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING by the end of the role! HAHAHAHAHA .. I so funny.. I kill myself. Would you belive after all these years that thought/pun literally just occurred to me for the first time ?? o.0 This is why Ive watched at least a dozen different reactors for the series. I get to relieve it again
What do you mean it hasn't happened in a while? You exclaimed "Motherfucker" the last ep, and a lot before : ) Its fine : )
It should be noticeable that Proto-Miller can communicate with the Sphere, but can't control it. Proto-Miller is the Ring-building device still pursuing its programming. The Sphere is a different Protomolecule device with a different purpose, which the Ring-building device doesn't even fully know. Different devices running the same operating system, but different devices nevertheless.
Ashford would rather be captain, but he's aware that outright mutiny is an evil genie that can't be stuffed back into is bottle.
It's very possible to write about a character acting in their faith merely as a means of explaining the motivation of that character, without it being a substantive issue of the overall plot or a mechanism of the writer's personal viewpoint. Joseph Michael Straczynski did that very will in several episodes of Babylon 5.
Errinwright had mentioned Mao's second daughter twice, once by name. He called her Mao's "...second daughter he adores."
Interesting that the Protomolecule builders didn't make _everything_ automatic, but left at least this one thing needing a material being to operate.
Yes, that last energy bolt destroyed our Solar System. If you freeze the action sequentially (I'm that much a nerd), you can see the beam speed past Saturn, Jupiter, and the four inner planets to strike and destroy Sol. But was that a revelation of what the Sphere _intends_ to do, or a warning of what it's capable of doing?
Hey, I have sad news. This is the 33rd episode of The Expanse, of which there are only 62 episodes. Sorry, bossman, but you're over halfway done.
Your reactions are so good, especially your theories. Almost always so close to what's going on (which is impressive), yet missing by a few degrees. Doors and corners. Calculus - amoeba. :)
Love re-experiencing The Expanse through your eyes.
That's the point when there's been enough hints dropped that I can safely say: We are currently in Antarctica, coming from Arkham U.
🙃
In many ways The Expanse is also Babylon 5 in exceedingly more realistic, not only tech-wise but especially in the way things play out and are perceived by the people involved, it's *so very much* grounded in psychological reality.
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Yep Ty/Daniel are to this day completely unapologetic about the rabid fanboys they are for Babylon 5 and it's creator. I've no doubt that JMS (colloquial shorthand) is profoundly pleased that his work of over a quarter century before could inspire this masterwork.
Once again, I won't tell you if you're right or wrong but you're thinking in the right directions 🤟😎
I want to say so much but holding back because of spoilers lol. Do you plan on reading the books after you're done with the show?
Great reaction on this one! Loved the discussion at the end.
Awesome episode! And i remember being the same as you at the end when i first watched it. Good theory btw!
The 100 was also filmed in Canada and Dark Matter
I think I read somewhere that the authors were thinking originally to use Dandelion Sky as title for the third book instead of Abaddon's Gate. I hope I'm not wrong. I don't know why, but feels very poetic: Dandelion sky 😍❤
12:00 - he just proved the theory that the slowing effect only works on the outside of the ships... In a very disturbing way, but nonetheless
I was gonna say one thing, but your after episode thoughts lead into another direction! however, Miller said something about locked doors, what do you make of that with your elevator idea?
we'll get to see how right you are in just a couple of episodes. and I'm guessing you are far ahead, No?
Take care, my friend! see you next time!
Unfortunately images cannot convey what Holden actually experienced in that vision. For that you will have to read the book. What you/we have seen is only a fraction of what he has experienced.
I know as a queer man I was pleasantly surprised to find out what a fine body Steven has. He's such a brainiac out of character.. it's a wonderful thought that there might be a guy out there who is both physically a brilliant specimen, and has an amazing mind and sense of humor. Too bad I'm 62 and pretty much past the point such a person might be interested in me. Still, nice to imagine.
Shit. I caught up. Now I'm gonna have to wait a week for the next episode? Jeeze, that sucks.
I will not stand you deadnaming the Behemoth.
Pinus Contorta? :)
It isn't a reaction of The Expanse unless WarpReactor swears because the episode ends too quickly for him. LOL
I like hearing your theories about how you think this story will evolve. If I was having a beer with you, I would have to stick a knife in my hand to avoid spoiling anything because "I'm not that guy."
Navoo
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@@helldvan Yep, that's a frikking spoiler.
- Those who have already watched the show know it and don't care.
- Those who haven't yet don't want to know.
So why do you have to do this? Want to look smart? Yeah, you are indeed.
@@pspirto8014 That why i typed it this way so it will be under "expand" button. If it not and i messed something - i'll add more empty space.
Why so agressive?
This is where the show really starts going full Mass Effect! 😂
LoL, Expanse born paranoia ... that certainly is a thing you develop after this show
Where are we? We are at the end of the beginning.
And/or vice/versa...
The only weak part in the whole adaptation is the vision that Holden experiences. In the books is one of the best Lovecraftian things ever written, it’s so visceral, mysterious and at the same time perfectly communicates just how godlike was the power of the civilization that inhabited the ring space.
I think that is just the inherent problem with where you can go inside your head with text (Holden's internal monologue) and where you can go on screen. While what they did doesn't measure up to what is conveyed in the books, I think the production did an excellent visual story which retained mystery and awe, and provided a cliffhanger, and will be fleshed out in a couple of pieces of dialogue over the next couple of episodes. The TV show has much more mystery, tension, drama and conflict than the books whereas the books have much more detail and overall material. I like that they are their own parallel universe of each other.
@warpreactor i feel like you might enjoy the book series Honorverse by David weber
There wasn't a great way to explain _why_ the speed limit changed in the show. The station knew that fast moving things could be dangerous which was why things were slow, it never realised that slow moving things could also be dangerous until the grenade went off and damaged it. The protomolecule technology in its default state is _extremely_ reactionary. Bad thing happens, stop anything remotely related to bad thing from happening again.
I think the show put that across pretty clearly with the way the shots cut
It's rare that I have any complaints about your reactions, but I thought I should state my opinion anyway, I apoligize if I'm being annoying. I wish that your thought process hadn't been so influenced by the comments. I feel like it distracted you from the actual story taking place. You praised the acting of the side character so much, but didn't even discuss that storyline besides mentioning religion in general.
First off I never find thoughtful comments annoying, my friend, and I truly appreciate hearing what everyone is thinking. The only reason I didn't touch on that storyline is because it's difficult for me to talk about suicide. Normally I use humor as a defense mechanism but that doesn't come off real well with that particular subject.
I hope that makes sense.
Thank you for both your opinion and for watching, my friend!
@@WarpReactor That's totally fair.