Testimony from a british jaguar-pilot flying in Viggen with Swedish pilots: "A British pilots experience with Viggen ‘The first to go up in the Viggen was our boss, Hilton Moses. I remember going out with him to the aeroplane and seeing him laughing and smiling, and then seeing him getting out and coming back to the crewroom looking like he’d just been put through some kind of crazy combination between a fairground ride and a washing machine. Then I went flying in the afternoon, and it changed my life. ‘They would fly around at Mach 0.95, 650kt give or take a bit, and they trained at 10m. We flew through firebreaks in trees, we flew all over northern Sweden at 30ft, and we never went below 600kt. All of this, I should add, was done under about a 150 to 200ft overcast with no breaks. In the RAF, anybody who wanted to get old would not have flown in that weather. After about 40 minutes, we pulled up into cloud, and the pilot then flew a 4-degree hands-off approach with his hands on his head into a remote airstrip, landed, reversed into a parking bay, did an engine-running refuel without any communication with the people on the ground except hand signals, taxied out and took off in the direction that we’d landed in. Wind direction just wasn’t factored. Then we did some approaches onto roadways, flying at 15 or 20ft to clear the cars and warn them that there were going to be some aeroplane movements before doing practice approaches. And the aerobatics beggared belief. ‘The next day, it was time to take the Swedish pilots flying in the Jaguar. I was at a bit of a loss as to how I was going to explain to this guy that we flew at 420kt when they flew at 620kt. So I decided that the way ahead was to leave the part-throttle reheat in, accelerate to 620kt and then give him the aeroplane. That’s what I did - I took off, and gave him control at 620kt and about 150ft. He pushed the nose down, took the Jaguar down to 30ft and proceeded to fly it at about 30 to 40ft and 600kt-plus quite happily. It knocked all the myths about who’s got the best aeroplanes, who’s got the best-trained pilots and so on. The Swedish Air Force had aeroplanes that were light years ahead of anything the RAF had, or was going to get, or has got now, and their pilots were in a totally different league to us. This was not just an individual - I flew with three of them, and all three were like that. Each of them was able to fly the Jaguar faster and lower from the back seat than I could from the front seat. "
During the cold war we accepted 1-2 fatal accident every month. In the book "Att flyga är att Leva. Flygvapnet 1926 - 1976" (To fly is to live. Swedish air force 1926-1976) there's a sadly long In Memoriam at the end. E.g. when Viggen was first put in service the attachment of the wings was too weak and they flew off 7 times before they managed to solve the problem and redesign the aircraft. Thankfully JAS have had only one fatal accident in 28 years of service, a thai pilot that crashed at an airshow in Thailand.
Yes, I read that article in a British magazine as well. Sounds true, Swedish Fighter pilots are like that. I read somewhere about a top Hungarian officer, maybe the chief of their air force, or someone on that level. When they were getting ready to lease the Gripen for their air force, he took part in an exercise in Sweden, riding in the back seat of a Gripen. He was surprised that the young junior pilots were given a lot of freedom to plan their attack on their own. In Hungary, the exact plan would have come from Budapest, and their pilots would have no say. Just follow your orders. But in Sweden, the pilots were basically just given a target to attack, and then were left to plan the attack themselves. Using simulators to see what worked, and what didn't. And then they planned to fly low, very low. The Hungarian officer assumed they were just trying to look tough, in front of him, but that they would not actually fly that low and fast, when they flew for real. But they did. With him in the back seat. He said afterwards that "In Hungary, we only fly that low during take-off and landing. But not that fast."
@@Niinsa62 Sitting in the back seat with one of Sweden's most experienced fighter pilots. Formula 1 in 3D. In his spare time he relaxed by competing for #1 spot in Swedish road racing. 😂 ruclips.net/video/fN5heTgJwKo/видео.html
And the tone of his voice is like he's laying slumped on his TV couch when he's going 1000 km/h 30 meters above the tree tops. Just another day at the office...
The Gripen has been described by other NATO pilots, as the most nimble, easy to fly and manneovreble plane they've flown... The Swedes know a thing or two about making military hardware...
The Gripen is actually easier to fly than the Sk60 they are coming from because in the Gripen the pilot needs to manage the fight so flying the fighter has been made as carefree as possible to free up the pilot to think about the battle he is conducting instead of flying the aircraft correctly.
About the roll authority, there was a fantastic clip on TV probably 15 years ago where a car journalist got to go up in a Gripen, and the pilot said "we'll make a left turn in 3-2-1" and on 0 he turned to the left so rapidly that the guy just about smacked his helmet on the canopy. 😂 It's unbelievably nimble.
Check out this official SAAB Gripen POV display video, the pilot's pushing an 11 G's difference in split seconds, no other NATO fighter can do that: ruclips.net/video/eXaPfUs6sQw/видео.html
Peter ”Starbutt” Fällén received the ”King Hussein Memorial Sword” for ”Best overall flying presentation” at the Royal International Air Tattoo in England 2019
I imagine the issue of speed is pretty much nullified (as in going too fast to see stuff) when you are high up in the air, compared to low-level flying. There are way less things to bump into at high-altitude, compared to lets say a car going at mach 1 on the ground. Also, things like missiles and other planes are meant to be picked up by onboard systems, with your eyes being the final check (something like that).
I feel like we should remove the "spaning" part of the aircraft. It's not a stealth aircraft and all planes can have a camera, doesn't make it a "recon" aircraft. Remove the recon parts and further enhance the "jakt" and "attack" capabilities, goes for the new E model too. Waste of space and resources that could go to stuff that could make it even more intimidating and formidable in the air that really matters in the end. And invest in a dedicated recon instead, like UAV.
I think the name Amazon was not used on the exported cars, for copyright reasons. I think that Volvo model is called the 121 outside of Sweden. And 122, and 123GT, depending. So if you are not Swedish, you might know the car, just not the name Amazon. It was a curvier car than "The Brick" that came after it.
@combatreadyhq the real issue is not how many years they have gone through to get there, the real question is how many years of youtube reaction videos you need to do before you sit in one ;)
When you said Stridspilot, you pronounced the first half right, Strids. But you pronounced Pilot the British way. The Swedish way sounds more like Pee-Loot. With the stress on Loot, the opposite of the British stress of the word pilot. I'm not complaining, just explaining! 🙂
Testimony from a british jaguar-pilot flying in Viggen with Swedish pilots:
"A British pilots experience with Viggen
‘The first to go up in the Viggen was our boss, Hilton Moses. I remember going out with him to the aeroplane and seeing him laughing and smiling, and then seeing him getting out and coming back to the crewroom looking like he’d just been put through some kind of crazy combination between a fairground ride and a washing machine. Then I went flying in the afternoon, and it changed my life.
‘They would fly around at Mach 0.95, 650kt give or take a bit, and they trained at 10m. We flew through firebreaks in trees, we flew all over northern Sweden at 30ft, and we never went below 600kt. All of this, I should add, was done under about a 150 to 200ft overcast with no breaks. In the RAF, anybody who wanted to get old would not have flown in that weather. After about 40 minutes, we pulled up into cloud, and the pilot then flew a 4-degree hands-off approach with his hands on his head into a remote airstrip, landed, reversed into a parking bay, did an engine-running refuel without any communication with the people on the ground except hand signals, taxied out and took off in the direction that we’d landed in. Wind direction just wasn’t factored. Then we did some approaches onto roadways, flying at 15 or 20ft to clear the cars and warn them that there were going to be some aeroplane movements before doing practice approaches.
And the aerobatics beggared belief. ‘The next day, it was time to take the Swedish pilots flying in the Jaguar. I was at a bit of a loss as to how I was going to explain to this guy that we flew at 420kt when they flew at 620kt. So I decided that the way ahead was to leave the part-throttle reheat in, accelerate to 620kt and then give him the aeroplane. That’s what I did - I took off, and gave him control at 620kt and about 150ft. He pushed the nose down, took the Jaguar down to 30ft and proceeded to fly it at about 30 to 40ft and 600kt-plus quite happily. It knocked all the myths about who’s got the best aeroplanes, who’s got the best-trained pilots and so on. The Swedish Air Force had aeroplanes that were light years ahead of anything the RAF had, or was going to get, or has got now, and their pilots were in a totally different league to us. This was not just an individual - I flew with three of them, and all three were like that. Each of them was able to fly the Jaguar faster and lower from the back seat than I could from the front seat. "
During the cold war we accepted 1-2 fatal accident every month. In the book "Att flyga är att Leva. Flygvapnet 1926 - 1976" (To fly is to live. Swedish air force 1926-1976) there's a sadly long In Memoriam at the end.
E.g. when Viggen was first put in service the attachment of the wings was too weak and they flew off 7 times before they managed to solve the problem and redesign the aircraft. Thankfully JAS have had only one fatal accident in 28 years of service, a thai pilot that crashed at an airshow in Thailand.
Yes, I read that article in a British magazine as well. Sounds true, Swedish Fighter pilots are like that.
I read somewhere about a top Hungarian officer, maybe the chief of their air force, or someone on that level. When they were getting ready to lease the Gripen for their air force, he took part in an exercise in Sweden, riding in the back seat of a Gripen. He was surprised that the young junior pilots were given a lot of freedom to plan their attack on their own. In Hungary, the exact plan would have come from Budapest, and their pilots would have no say. Just follow your orders. But in Sweden, the pilots were basically just given a target to attack, and then were left to plan the attack themselves. Using simulators to see what worked, and what didn't. And then they planned to fly low, very low. The Hungarian officer assumed they were just trying to look tough, in front of him, but that they would not actually fly that low and fast, when they flew for real. But they did. With him in the back seat. He said afterwards that "In Hungary, we only fly that low during take-off and landing. But not that fast."
@@Niinsa62 Sitting in the back seat with one of Sweden's most experienced fighter pilots. Formula 1 in 3D.
In his spare time he relaxed by competing for #1 spot in Swedish road racing. 😂
ruclips.net/video/fN5heTgJwKo/видео.html
And the tone of his voice is like he's laying slumped on his TV couch when he's going 1000 km/h 30 meters above the tree tops.
Just another day at the office...
The Gripen has been described by other NATO pilots, as the most nimble, easy to fly and manneovreble plane they've flown... The Swedes know a thing or two about making military hardware...
The Gripen is actually easier to fly than the Sk60 they are coming from because in the Gripen the pilot needs to manage the fight so flying the fighter has been made as carefree as possible to free up the pilot to think about the battle he is conducting instead of flying the aircraft correctly.
That's what a good airplane is. One that allows the pilot to put more of their brainpower into the mission than into simply controlling the aircraft.
About the roll authority, there was a fantastic clip on TV probably 15 years ago where a car journalist got to go up in a Gripen, and the pilot said "we'll make a left turn in 3-2-1" and on 0 he turned to the left so rapidly that the guy just about smacked his helmet on the canopy. 😂 It's unbelievably nimble.
Jakt (pursuit, hunt), Attack, Spaning (reconnaissance). As for the SK 60, "SK" = "skolflygplan" (school/trainer aircraft).
Max speed 2,130 km/h
I was nearly sick high banking in a Wessex and Chinook. I don't know how these guys do it.
Check out this official SAAB Gripen POV display video, the pilot's pushing an 11 G's difference in split seconds, no other NATO fighter can do that: ruclips.net/video/eXaPfUs6sQw/видео.html
That guy is a beast!
Peter ”Starbutt” Fällén received the ”King Hussein Memorial Sword” for ”Best overall flying presentation” at the Royal International Air Tattoo in England 2019
I imagine the issue of speed is pretty much nullified (as in going too fast to see stuff) when you are high up in the air, compared to low-level flying. There are way less things to bump into at high-altitude, compared to lets say a car going at mach 1 on the ground. Also, things like missiles and other planes are meant to be picked up by onboard systems, with your eyes being the final check (something like that).
I feel like we should remove the "spaning" part of the aircraft. It's not a stealth aircraft and all planes can have a camera, doesn't make it a "recon" aircraft. Remove the recon parts and further enhance the "jakt" and "attack" capabilities, goes for the new E model too. Waste of space and resources that could go to stuff that could make it even more intimidating and formidable in the air that really matters in the end. And invest in a dedicated recon instead, like UAV.
So cool, I have no words.
Extremely cool
Jakt Attack Spaning= JAS= Hunting Attack Rekonnasaince
At 12:32 Amazon is an old Volvo model from the sixties.
I think the name Amazon was not used on the exported cars, for copyright reasons. I think that Volvo model is called the 121 outside of Sweden. And 122, and 123GT, depending. So if you are not Swedish, you might know the car, just not the name Amazon. It was a curvier car than "The Brick" that came after it.
@Niinsa62 Thanks! I didn't know that.
The Gripen C they fly here are smaller than the current gen Gripen E which means its even more agile :)
@combatreadyhq the real issue is not how many years they have gone through to get there, the real question is how many years of youtube reaction videos you need to do before you sit in one ;)
Haha fair enough, how many more years do I need
I think it takes 7 years to be a Gripen pilot
When you said Stridspilot, you pronounced the first half right, Strids. But you pronounced Pilot the British way. The Swedish way sounds more like Pee-Loot. With the stress on Loot, the opposite of the British stress of the word pilot.
I'm not complaining, just explaining! 🙂
"Jakt" stands for air to air fighter. Not "hunting".
No its not hunt...its fighter...recon, attack or multi role fighter
Jakt =hunt.. jag visste inte att jägare(hunters )i skogen slogs emot älgar.. jag trodde dom jagade dom😂
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