Mx factory also mentioned not to use the clutch downshifting. I’ve always used the clutch downshifting because i didn’t want to ruin my trans, but if you say it’s safe off the throttle I’ll give it a try
I've heard several people say it's pointless on upshifts too as long as you're off the throttle. I've got 40 hours on my bike and never use the clutch to shift up or down, it's shifts super smooth up or down and never once made any weird sounds.
I really like how they made a video of shifting on a MX track instead of just shifting. Also, I ride a big bore RM-Z 300 and the shifting is a lot different for a regular 250. The power band is WAY up there. Is it okay to short-shift if you have the power?
If your bike will pull the taller gear, then short shifting isn't a bad thing. You're right, every bike is different and it will be different for everyone. - Chase
Yes you Can down shift any bike, you don’t have to use to clutch to down shift, just don’t down shift a bunch of gears at a time because that can cause you to crash because it’ll lock your rear wheel up and it just isn’t good for your bike, but when coming into a corner 1-2 gears is fine to down shift depending on how fast or slow you’re going
Very helpful video! it would be cool to follow a rider around a track with drone and have a graphic show what gear the rider is in at all times for a few laps.
Hey Chase, nice video. At one point you said not to lift your foot off of the foot peg when shifting. But if you are riding on the balls of your feet you have to move your foot forward to hit the shifter. How do you do that without lifting your foot off of the peg?
Hey John. That is a great question and looking back, I could've said that a bit differently. In some cases you do need to lift your foot off the peg to downshift, but if possible, you want to try and keep your boot planted to keep control of the bike. - Chase
Staying in gear under braking should not be a habit for beginners in my opinion. Many riders never learn proper rear brake control because they just let the engine do it for them. Learn to fully control the rear brake, and once that's mastered, feel free to keep it in gear. This brake skill will let you use all your stopping power, and position the bike much better, specifically on wide berms and flat turns, because you can precisely slide the rear out while braking.
Tip # 6: Downshift your opponent that’s crowding you to your right into the first turn. He doesn’t need to pull in the clutch. You’ll find that really opens up the right side of the track for you.
Killer video. Perhaps I heard it wrong but are you saying you don't need to come off the throttle when up shifting? Sounded like just squeeze clutch and shift.
I know riders that don't let off the gas to upshift and just stab the clutch. You can do this but it can be hard on the gears. This is a technique that mostly racers use to keep the RPMs and power up. But for the sake of your tranny, let off the gas, pull in the clutch, and upshift. - Chase
Once I let the clutch out, I never used it again. EVERYONE told me I would ruin my transmission but it never happened. I wanted to shave lap times so what started as an experiment became the norm.
@@ShumilinYaroslav oh i was under the impression that people skid into corners pretty often. Maybe then they do use clutch and use it to power out of the corner aswell?
How about off the start? When starting in 2nd gear am I pulling in the clutch fast to shift up until I get to the corner? Or keeping the gas on and shifting
Hey I got a question if you are downshifting in the air will you bike go indo or will it stay level ? I don’t want to learn the hard way lol so I’d really appreciate the reply !
Absolutely. It takes some practice to get your weight back to get your toe under the shifter for an upshift, but shifting while standing is an important skill. I adjust my shift lever a little higher to make shifting while standing a little easier. - Chase
It's bad to engine brake for a long hill on a 2 stroke since it's not getting as much lubrication to the cylinder is what I've heard. So for longer hills I'll pull in the clutch and blip the throttle briefly before back to engine braking.
@@shanewoodard3539 I'm used to no engine braking and just dropping a gear or 2 before a corner but I'm getting old so I'm looking for help with control lol
You guys really use the clutch for up shifting? Never used in my life. And I guess nobody uses it for either down shifting or up shifting, at least in my world (Europe)
Chase, great video - thanks. I especially like/agree with your “don’t clutch when you downshift, especially on a downhill.” So true bro.
Mx factory also mentioned not to use the clutch downshifting. I’ve always used the clutch downshifting because i didn’t want to ruin my trans, but if you say it’s safe off the throttle I’ll give it a try
Your trans will be fine - Chase
@@rmatvmc thanks man
When I raced, I never used the clutch ( up or down) and never ruined a transmission. Everyone told me I would but it never happened.
@@scuzzjumper same... On a 125 i only use the clutch to modulate out of corners... Almost none for shifting
I've heard several people say it's pointless on upshifts too as long as you're off the throttle. I've got 40 hours on my bike and never use the clutch to shift up or down, it's shifts super smooth up or down and never once made any weird sounds.
Awesome tips Chase.one thing I never learned was how to "whip" the bike.my mx career was halted abruptly.keep up the great job.
I really like how they made a video of shifting on a MX track instead of just shifting. Also, I ride a big bore RM-Z 300 and the shifting is a lot different for a regular 250. The power band is WAY up there. Is it okay to short-shift if you have the power?
If your bike will pull the taller gear, then short shifting isn't a bad thing. You're right, every bike is different and it will be different for everyone. - Chase
Thanks, Chase
@@zmoney881 You bet!
Is the downshifting for Any year of motocross Iv got a 2012 kxf450 and my son got a 08 yzf250 can we downshift
Yes you Can down shift any bike, you don’t have to use to clutch to down shift, just don’t down shift a bunch of gears at a time because that can cause you to crash because it’ll lock your rear wheel up and it just isn’t good for your bike, but when coming into a corner 1-2 gears is fine to down shift depending on how fast or slow you’re going
Very helpful video! it would be cool to follow a rider around a track with drone and have a graphic show what gear the rider is in at all times for a few laps.
That would be cool!
Great tips!
Very helpful thanks
Hey Chase, nice video. At one point you said not to lift your foot off of the foot peg when shifting. But if you are riding on the balls of your feet you have to move your foot forward to hit the shifter. How do you do that without lifting your foot off of the peg?
Hey John. That is a great question and looking back, I could've said that a bit differently. In some cases you do need to lift your foot off the peg to downshift, but if possible, you want to try and keep your boot planted to keep control of the bike. - Chase
Staying in gear under braking should not be a habit for beginners in my opinion. Many riders never learn proper rear brake control because they just let the engine do it for them. Learn to fully control the rear brake, and once that's mastered, feel free to keep it in gear. This brake skill will let you use all your stopping power, and position the bike much better, specifically on wide berms and flat turns, because you can precisely slide the rear out while braking.
Tip # 6: Downshift your opponent that’s crowding you to your right into the first turn. He doesn’t need to pull in the clutch. You’ll find that really opens up the right side of the track for you.
Killer video. Perhaps I heard it wrong but are you saying you don't need to come off the throttle when up shifting? Sounded like just squeeze clutch and shift.
I know riders that don't let off the gas to upshift and just stab the clutch. You can do this but it can be hard on the gears. This is a technique that mostly racers use to keep the RPMs and power up. But for the sake of your tranny, let off the gas, pull in the clutch, and upshift. - Chase
Keep it pinned and feather the clutch
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Once I let the clutch out, I never used it again. EVERYONE told me I would ruin my transmission but it never happened. I wanted to shave lap times so what started as an experiment became the norm.
Doesnt the bike stall when you use the rear brake to enter corners?
@@equalizer4633 no
@@ShumilinYaroslav how? When the rear wheel blocks the engine stalls right?
@@equalizer4633 actually it’s quite hard to block rear wheel without touching the clutch. Moreover you don’t have to slam on the rear brake :)
@@ShumilinYaroslav oh i was under the impression that people skid into corners pretty often.
Maybe then they do use clutch and use it to power out of the corner aswell?
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How do i know that i can shit up or down without the clutch? I got a yz450f 09
Does the no clutch down shifting applies to 2 strokes?
i don't think so, it will put pressure on the gears as you'll technically be engine braking. Don't engine brake with a 2 stroke
question, if you are up-shifting in the air do you have to pull in the clutch?
Nope. Just don't be on the gas. - Chase
Rocky Mountain ATV MC I only pull in the clutch for a brake tap shifting up no need for it
How about off the start? When starting in 2nd gear am I pulling in the clutch fast to shift up until I get to the corner? Or keeping the gas on and shifting
You can pull the clutch in and keep the gas on while upshifting to keep the RPMs up, but it is harder on your transmission. - Chase
Don't downshift on pavement from a high rpm with a bike that doesn't have a judder spring unless you want to leave a quick rubba stripe!
yeah, they are talking about dirt only
Even with a 2006 CRF450R I can downshift without the clutch?
I almost never use the clutch on my YZ400F or my WR450F...
Hey I got a question if you are downshifting in the air will you bike go indo or will it stay level ? I don’t want to learn the hard way lol so I’d really appreciate the reply !
Downshifting will have no affect on your bike in the air, it will stay level as long as your bike is already level - Chase
Does the downshifting apply to a 77 Honda?
OCTANE literally every bike
@@harpermx2962 2 strokes too?
@@tsufchakmon5801 yes lol
What gear is that? I really like the collar on it!
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/riding-gear/fxr-racing-revo-jersey-p?c=310
It's the FXR Revo gear.
Should i be shifting when im standing? Like in a strait or something.
Absolutely. It takes some practice to get your weight back to get your toe under the shifter for an upshift, but shifting while standing is an important skill. I adjust my shift lever a little higher to make shifting while standing a little easier. - Chase
I ride a 2 stroke when down shifting do I still have to give the bike some throttle some people have said engine braking on a 2t is bad for the piston
No need to to give any throttle down shifting on a two stroke. Just don't be on the gas when you downshift. - Chase
@@rmatvmc thank you
It's bad to engine brake for a long hill on a 2 stroke since it's not getting as much lubrication to the cylinder is what I've heard. So for longer hills I'll pull in the clutch and blip the throttle briefly before back to engine braking.
@@shanewoodard3539 I'm used to no engine braking and just dropping a gear or 2 before a corner but I'm getting old so I'm looking for help with control lol
How about quickshifting? Or feathering the clutch….
We dont have down hils in the Netherlands
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Can you free ride on a motocross track
THANKYOU YOU JUST MIGHT SAVE MOTOCROSS? I AM NOT ALONE WHEN I SAY PEOPLE RIDING THE REV LIMITER ARE RUINING RACES!
You guys really use the clutch for up shifting? Never used in my life. And I guess nobody uses it for either down shifting or up shifting, at least in my world (Europe)
REV-LIMITERS ARE DESTROYING THE TRACK SIDE RACE EXPERIENCE IT IS SO ANNOYING TO HEAR ALL DAY!