There is, but not on his channel. He have a collab channel called Adeptus Ridiculous where they actually go really deep in each and everything about 40k.
The “bullet” on the forehead of the space marine is actually a service stud. I forget the specifics but depending on the color it marks a certain amount of years of service. So sliver I think is 50 and gold is 100.
Depending on the legion of space marines, silver = 50 and gold = 100 is the standard regarding legions like ultramarines but some legions follow a different meaning like the Soul Drinkers where a Silver stud represents 10 years of service as a battle-brother and a Ebony stud represents 10 years of service with the Chaplaincy so its different with every legion while most generally are alike.
A good frame of reference, at least firstborn, before primaris came along, was that most space marines lived to be roughly 200 years old by the time they'd eventually die in battle, with some marines, notably named characters, have lived much longer or still alive. Sigismund and Dante lived to be over a thousand.
Slight correction, you might end up dead in the Imperium if you just knew about the chaos gods, any knowledge of daemons or gods other than the god emperor is heavily restricted in order to prevent panic or outright rebellion. If you were an imperial citizen and were caught by higher ups to have asked questions about Nurgle for example, most ordinary people would assume you're talking about a corporation or individual, and if you got the wrong attention you'll end up kidnapped and interrogated, in which you'll probably be executed under the assumption you're a cultist or interact with cultists. You can imagine the panic of people if they learned daemons could pop up near their world at any point and kill everyone, higher ups require an ignorant population to keep the cogs of war running.
It's also justified. Chaos is, to borrow terms from SCP, a memetic cognitohazard. That is, it is literally dangerous information that corrupts those who know it, unless they're extremely faithful and protected by the Emperor. Moreover, it's highly transmisible, like a disease. Just some chaos scribbles on a napkin is enough to potentially turn anyone who sees it into a cultist given months or years of slow corruption.
That's where the shock of the Horus Heresy came from. Civilians may have herd urban legends, or spooky stories, but seeing marines and cultists, upclose, do messed us stuff, like chanting and sacrificing others, and it resulting in actual deamons springing forth into the material world, was all just so horrifying.
TBF it was a very bad day for Vulkan at that time (forced to assist in killing the very people he just saved, resulting in one of his friends being killed as collateral damage), and he would regret what he did. It doesn't excuse his actions, but it does provide some context.@@crabtales
Fun facts; The floating skulls are called Servo-Skulls. They come from exceptional devout servants granted the honor of service beyond their death. Their brains are used as a computer to float around, delivering messages, acting like a personal assistant like Alexa, or recording audio/video for record keeping. The winged babies are Cherubs. They're mutated, vat grown babies with very limited brain capacity, usually following predestined flight paths or following individuals while carrying ammunition, iconography, incense burners, etc. The Zombie cyborgs are Servitors. They're usually criminals, but in some cases slaves or life long indentured servants, and other cases, kidnapped civilians. They're lobotomized and fused with equipment to carry out specific tasks, usually while still suffering. This could be acting like a living weapon turret, or grueling manual labor, or even worse, dolls for weathy lords to abuse however they please. Some times they have bouts of remembering their past lives, or exhibiting madness like gibbering or repeating a phrase over and over.
The thing with the 2 missing Primarchs is that they must have done something horrible, something so unforgiveable that all rrecords of them were erradicated from Imperial records. Thier Legion was disbanded and the Primarchs got killed, possibly by Leman Russ (Primarch of the Space Wolfs) who mentioned in some book i read latly that he already killed 2 Primarchs and has no problem with killing another.
I theorize that maybe the chaos gods got their hands on them before the emperor could. When the emperor realized this, he struck them down. Making sure they were forgotten.
I think I remember reading one of the legions had rebelled and were wiped out by the space wolves. I theorise the other primarch was probably killed and the emperor had all record of him expunged as damage control, if the average human learned a primarch could be killed imagine what that would do to morale, it's better to let humanity assume primarchs are immortal demi gods
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 the problem with the space wolves part is that apparently Lemun Russ didn’t know a primarch could die till he fought magnus (or it might have been when ferrus was killed). I might be wrong, as I don’t remember where I read this. However, they definitely did something horrible, since when Rogal asked Malcador for his memory of the Two. He said it was best if they made sure no one knew of the two lost primarchs.
@@halfknight2310 Since the meta explanation is that they are sort of like placeholders for your own homebrew legions, one loyalist and one traitor, I feel like the incidents that caused them to be expunged were either related, or that the loyalist either succumbed to chaos at the very end, or did something so horrific while thinking it was the right thing, that it still had to be erased. The exchange between Dorn and Malcador even explains that their legions are still out there, also without their memories of it, right? I think it was also an intentional opening for all of the more mysterious successor chapters with unclear and unremembered origins for it to be freely implied that they are from one of those original legions, rather than the ones they are speculated to have come from. Like the Carcharodons, the idea that they are Raven Guard is still unconfirmed, and they are indeed operating in exile in penance for some betrayal of the Emperor so ancient that they still speak the purest and most formal of High Gothic, and do so in part from having one of the weirdest gene defects from their Primarch not seen in any other known legion.
Guy on the right is in luck if he wants to learn more about the 18 space marine legions, Bricky recently made a video explaining them all in greater detail
Reading Horus Rising, I saw the famous line “in the future, there is only war” surprisingly was first spoken by not a Primarch, but Saul Tarvitz. It was like when they say the movie title in dialogue, “he said the thing!”
Cool reaction guys! I would say one of the best films of all time "Event Horizon" is the accurate description of the warp and chaos. I hope you choose a faction by the end of this. -- Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
Love the reactions and discussions. It's good there's a friend in the group who's more knowledgeable about Warhammer. Bricky's videos are amazing but he's not the "Lore Guy" I'd say. He's a great introduction to 40K
Thanks 😊 Bryce has been a great help and without him kirren and Jayson never would have seen this world So far bricky has been very entertaining and yes a good slow start into Warhammer😊🦀
29:19 - If you don't want to go first, then you face your regimental Commissar accompanied with his laspistol or bolterpistol pointed at your head and a strong suggestion of "battlefield execution"...
Every faction in 40k are good in thier own eyes, but to us they are all beyond absurd. However, every single one strikes for it's own survival in a galaxy and universe where everything else wants to destroy and dominate them. Even the Chaos Gods function this way, in the fact that no matter how little and innocent the influence of one of them on you starts, they feed off of the most extreme forms of that influence. Meaning you will go from honor in battle to just pure murder death slaughter, or painting to the most depraved torture and pleasure.
I am always so happy to see more folks learn more about warhammer 40k. I am really looking forward to seeing your impressions on all the lore coming you're way!
Warhammer 40k is like the only epic Sci fi I know of that has a super interesting version of humanity instead of current us plus X years in the future. Humanity has risen to beyond Star Trek levels of technology and then collapsed once the Chaos God Slaanesh was born in like 20,000 AD. Then 10,000 years of decay, civil strife, isolation from space travel, Warp storms, and other things go by. The Emperor begins his conquest of Earth/Terra around 30,000 AD. 40,000 Ad is close to the time of the current state of the the Lore.
I’d like to add that you’ve summed it up pretty accurately, the only thing I could include would be to say the collapse would be like Mad Max 2 or Fury Road… so yeah from beyond Star Trek level of technology back to Mad Max in about 3 generations. 40k doesn’t pull any punches.
The primarchs all represent a different personality or ideal from the Emperor, and then their environment shaped them in different ways, Fulgrim is the Emperors perfection, so his legion is as such, Angron and Mortarion and two of the most changed by their environment
That Scene with the Kneeling Space marines is a cutscene from a game. In this very Scene the reason for that Storm is the Orks. That is no joke, there is a HORDE of Orks running across the planet and they push this tremendous gust of wind in front of them. That´s just how many orks there are. It´s pretty badass.
Personally, the Imperial Guards are very enjoyable. Yes it is one of those "use more fodders" faction, but in exchange they got the biggest vehicles the Imperium have. The most iconic one is the Baneblade Super Heavy Tank, which is like a fortress on tread. The Spacedock channel have a short video (few minutes long) describing the tank if you want a quick overview.
22:15 yes the guy with the shiny face mask In Astartes, that one of the Marines punches his face off,when the Shiny mask guy is connected to one of the balls, the Shiny mask dude, IS a member of the Inquisition. The Marine kills him because at that point he has become possessed by whatever was in the Ball. I don't know but I assume the Shiny mask dude is psyker in the service of the Inquisition, who is trying to eavesdrop on the balls communicating to each other. I dont know what the balls are , I have my theories, but its never fully explained
It's not so much that most factions are trying to be good or bad, it's just that it's a brutal galaxy where everyone is trying to survive and through learned experience they all know that the best way to survive is to kill everyone else before they can kill you. If you don't, your people end up enslaved, dead or worse. You have to remember that this is a universe where demons exist. Orcs are running around and they think that attacking and destroying entire planets are fun. A literal hive mind of alien monsters is hungry and we're all food. Robot zombies exist and are offended that living things exist and want to purge the galaxy of all life. The list goes on and you can't really reason with anything I just mentioned so the default response to dealing with any one of them is to kill every last one because there really is no other option.
The Primarchs didn't only have different personalities because they grew up on different worlds... When the Emperor was making the Primarchs, he also had different purposes in mind for each of them, he had designed them to be different from each other.... Being flung to distant worlds did affect many of them, plus some may have been somewhat touched by the chaos powers on their way through the warp to those planets too... But yeah, they were never meant to be exactly the same in the first place... The legions were put together after the primarchs were flung away, if I remember correctly, although they were always part of the plan... Each legion was originally recruited from various different places on Earth/Terra, I think... I think one possibly used criminals, another might have been taken from noble families... They each used gene seed based on the genetics of the primarch that was to lead their legion once they found them... When they found each primarch, usually they would start recruiting from the planet they called home. Eventually many of the Terran born members would die off and be replaced by recruits from that world, although there were still some Terrans around at the time of the Horus Heresy... Some turned against their traitor legions when the heresy began... Many from traitor legions were likely purged at Isstvan, when the first group of traitor legions got rid of anyone still potentially loyal to the Emperor over their primarchs... I don't think any Terran marines still exist in the current timeline... Even at the time of the heresy they were starting to get old, despite everything that kept them younger longer... I think some were maybe 300 to 500 years old then... I forget... If they remained with the traitors then possibly they might still live, due to the effects of the warp messing with time.
"do you get told that you're the one going out first at the front?" oh it's even worse than that, guardsmen KNOW that they are the fisrt and last on a battlefield, they exist to die in combat without a second thought, in fact if they don't comply to any order, they are immediatly executed, they can even be executed without a reason by a commisar just to "motivate" the others. and they never wait or count for reiforcement from the more advance faction like space marine, you have to understand that for a big part of regular people and soldier, space marine are like mythical figure that they will never even see in their lifetime. for guardsmen, seing them drop on a battlefield is like for us if we saw real angel or valkyrie.
to give more context. the primachs existed befor the spacemarines but as mentioned where scatterd around the galaxy, fortunly the emperor still had original genetic material in store. the first time the "modern" spacemarine where used was at the end of the unification wars to unite terra(earth). the exact fate of the 2 mission legions is not known to most of the imperium, only the emperor, malcador and as far we (as players and lorenerds) know the primach's know anything about it. and well for the question how many legions are there its easy , 18. but those legions where split after THE HORUS HERESY so no man could wield the power of entire legions at a time. its commonly sayed that there are 1000 chapters of spacemarines active in the imperium , those chapters are directly from the splitt or created with the genetic material of an loyal legion. a chapter in general has 1000 battlebrothers (special roles and are not counted )but this can differ from outside sources or war loses, some like the black templer are much bigger (allmost in legion strenght) but split themself in crusades and/or clades.
Nah its a misnomer by bricky each faction is trying to survive in a galaxy thats trying to kill them. So they have to do what needs to be do to live another day.
The thing in the forhead is a service star noting how long the Marine has served. Gold are 100 years silver 50 years. Space Marines are pretty much immortal but usually die in combat oldes one is Dante at 1500 years old (not counting dreadnoughts
Ok so there are 18 ...Original Space Marine Chapters, half of which turned to Chaos. After the Horus Heresy they Created some new Chapters, and there have been many many Chapter "foundings" since, so there are literally thousands of space Marine chapters Many of them are "Successor" chapters to the original "Loyalist" 9 Chapters that remained after the Horus Heresy. GW have made it so you can basically make up your own Chapter if you wish, but there are at least 200+ Chapters that have been mentioned by name and usually some lore , in official GW 40k lore/Rule books/Fiction. So you have a huge choice of Space Marine Chapters. Every faction is setup like this pretty much. Imperial guard, Elder, Chaos, Heretic/Renegade, Tau, Orc, Necron, all allow you to create your own "Faction" within each race, or choose form thousands of already created factions 20-200+ already created officially Some races are fleshed out with background lore more than others , but all have pretty much total freedom, and a lot already there to chose from. You can even create your own faction/race. For example you could make a small Human splinter system/empire that is small enough that it has not really been noticed by the Imperium yet, but do things differently, and are strong enough they have survived since the Dark age of technology (pre Horus Heresy, pre Emperor crusades to unite humanity). It would even be possible they may have some "good" Space Marines, as not everything was fully accounted for in the Crusade period. It is possible that a small branch of the Crusade became cut off and therefore retained some Marines and even maybe an STC which would allow them to create more, Marines. The Empire was vastly different when the crusades were happening, as was probably a far nicer more forgiving place to live post crusade then the 40k time frame or what preceded that (Dark age of Technology/Age of Strife). There were also millions and millions of Marines, the Dark Angles themselves were probably about the same size as all the known current 40 K Space Marine Chapters , all combined Its quite possible a disconnected splinter of humanity with some resources and maybe even some Marines, continued closer to the Emperors original path, so you can even make you own Good guys if you want, technically. The irony being these Humans would almost certainly be seen as heretics and squashed with extreme prejudice by the Imperium, despite them being closer to the Emperor's original vision
Emperor is powering the Astronomicon that Imperium of Man uses to navigate the Warp. The Navigators look into the Warp and look for the light that shows where Terra (Earth) is, they calculate their position and where they need to go and feed the ship the course and speed needed to get there. The problem is, that light? When you look at it all you hear is agonized incoherent screaming. Emperor is powering the Astronomicon by having his very soul shredded and drained, that is why he has to have his life force replenished by high powered psykers. There is a whole Black Fleet scattered across the galaxy that picks up those talented from human colony worlds to bring them to Holy Terra to be sacrificed. Suffice to say, the emperor is not having a good time and it is questionable how well does his mind function after 10 000 years of this.
"But there's less bad, which almost internally makes it good" "You should never grade evils, Kruber; for if one is the worst, you might be tempted to kinship with the least." - Victor Saltzpyre, Witch Hunter But yes, each faction believes themselves to be in the right; we as outside observers can see how vicious and cruel they all are really.
20:25 Nope, being an average Imperium citizen and even being aware of the Chaos gods, existence,, would mean certain death. In fact even if you were a High ranking Imperial guard officer, merely knowing of the Choase gods would at very least cause mind wipe, and if you were expendable...death. Certain units/forces deal with Chaos. Even some Space Marines would be shielded from fighting Chaos if possible, If a Chaos cult broke out on a planet n a big way, it will likely be nuked from orbit or Virus bombed, rather than them waste energy even more Man power on a long drawn out recapture
very calming to watch him have them watch, gotta say. also: that headthing: its a veterancy mark, unsure about the wording, as my books are all german :D anyway, kudos from germany. you should watch the rest
two of the primarchs in lore , you do not know what exactly happened to them , the shape of the gods of chaos are not as they are seen in the artworks , if you want to know how they probably could be , I recommend this video of majorkill : What Do The Chaos Gods Actually Look Like? ,for the xenophobia of the imperium there is a reason , the first race they encountered were the orcs if I remember correctly , there is a race that he will not show in the video, they are the ''dwarves'', the faction is called leagues of votann, in the lore they already existed but it was said that most had been exterminated by tyranids, but recently they reintroduced them , my favorite space marine chapter is: carcharodons, they have the biggest chapter master in existence, Tyberos the red wake
I really like your energy since you're focus on listening and learning instead of talking over it like other youtubers. And no offense but the host is kinda bad at explaining, also a comment before already said just watch the video and most of your question will be answered.
Thanks😊 And yeah we kinda feel our questions will be answered but sometimes knowing something or being described something that we may have not understood (cause there is allot going on) may help us understand something at that point instead of being told later 🤷♂️ and the host (Bryce) may explain something in a way kirren and Jayson can understand.. he has been very helpful even tho they rip into him a bit 😊🦀
the white castle joke btw is something you gotta be american to get lmao so whitecastle is like REALLY BAD and no one goes there but what happens at 2am? closed and all the lights are off, well whitecastle is so broke and no one goes that at 2 am it wouldnt be dark.. it would be pitch fucking black because there aint NOTHING gonna be around that place lmao
If you are just a normal pleb even having Knowledge of the powers of Chaos is considered heresy, because knowledge is power and knowledge of chaos corrupts. All knowledge of chaos and the chaos gods is censored by the Eclisiarchy and Inquisition.
He's right, it's all perspective. Everyone's bad except the faction you just so happen to play as/subscribe to the lore more. No one's right or wrong, no one's good or bad, except you, and even then, it's only to a point.
Yes there are less evil factions but none of them are good. All factions do horrible shit and despite everything the Imperium does. They’re probably the best chance you’d have in that universe. Besides maybe one other but I really wouldn’t take my chances with an alien race when it’s comes to the survival of a human.
Omg i got so much shit to Say but i wont cuz I'm lazy so il just go over my main problems, so the primarchs did exist before the Space marines, the Space marines were made from their genetic material after they were scattered all over the galaxy. The Lion was the first primarch, and his legion the Dark Angels were the first space marine legion to be created. Second the baby charabs carry around ammo and shit, they are made from already dead babies. The stubs on the foreheads of the Space marines represent how long they have been fighting, not one of the implants, unless an implants/gene seed mutate horribly like in the case of the Black Dragons or Space Sharks u wont notice them like that. Each stub represents different amount of years, i believe the silver stub is 50 years and a gold one is 100 years.
I don't think Good and bad are even relevant on that scale there is only self-interest and all the factions act according to the needs of their people and the environment they live in.
Why is it everytime someone gets told about 40k they cant seem to get the no good guys thing, everyone and everything is kinda shit. Welcome to the party try and survive whooo.
Never understand this meme about Krieg being suicidal, because their lore is anything but. They're willing to sacrifice much like Iron Hands marines, being ultra utilitarian and all, but they understand it's better to live another day so they can kill more heretics/xenos.
It's no wonder Kirren and Jayson, who know nothing of 40K are confused. Bryce sucks at explaining it... Especially when the guys are asking for clarification. Bricky also has way to many community "in Jokes" that 90% of new fans don't get at all, but at least from a "baby's first introduction to W40K" he's pretty easy to understand. A few points; - All factions have their own gods/beliefs/drives to kill everyone else. this makes them neither "bad" or "good". humanity is Xenophic, relgious zealots that wants to genocide everything not us. BUT, the alternative is humanity gets genocided, enslaved, or eaten alive. (aka extinction of our race). Same for everyone else. - sacrificing 1000 psykers a day.. YES it IS CRAZY. As a chance of being born a Psyker is like 1 in 1 billion... BUT Humanities population is VAST in the year 40,000. Terra's population (Earth, the very same planet we are on right now) in W40k is described as "being in the Quadrillions". As in MULTIPLE QUADRILLIONS. Terra is covered in a planet wide city and has multiple "orbital continental plates" multiplying the total inhabitable surface area of the planet. Also Luna (the moon) and every terraformable celestial body in our solar system is inhabited. Now lastly there is Roughly 1 million Solar Systems across the galaxy under humanities control at any given time. Not all as populated as terra, but many are. literally dubbed "hive Worlds" and also "Forge Worlds" and planet sized human built "great anchorages" (artificial rings that either encircle entire moons/planets, or are thousands of kilometres sprawling "star bases" - that service as the ports/docks/shipyards for entire fleets) have quadrillions of humans living on them. Even the larger ships of the imperial navy, at around 15-20km long, can have crews in the MILLIONS. And humanity has MILLIONS of these battleships/cruisers.
Meta-wise, yea as a player that's what you're expected to understand. In-universe it's because they did some big no-nos during the prime days of the Emperor so he excommunicated them. He believe not telling the mass population about the horrors of Chaos will be better off.
@rnlansdownemobile yeah but if they did "big no-nos" and then were just sent away, instead of executed, we would see them returning, corrupted into Chaos legions, and we don't...
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You'll be happy to know there's a new Bricky video where he goes over every Space Marine legion.
Yep I highly recommend it it's a pretty good video and it's just 1 video lmao
Definitely interested in watching that 🦀
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@@crabtales it's main legions, none of the sub factions like the Black Templar.
There is, but not on his channel. He have a collab channel called Adeptus Ridiculous where they actually go really deep in each and everything about 40k.
The “bullet” on the forehead of the space marine is actually a service stud. I forget the specifics but depending on the color it marks a certain amount of years of service. So sliver I think is 50 and gold is 100.
Depending on the legion of space marines, silver = 50 and gold = 100 is the standard regarding legions like ultramarines but some legions follow a different meaning like the Soul Drinkers where a Silver stud represents 10 years of service as a battle-brother and a Ebony stud represents 10 years of service with the Chaplaincy so its different with every legion while most generally are alike.
A good frame of reference, at least firstborn, before primaris came along, was that most space marines lived to be roughly 200 years old by the time they'd eventually die in battle, with some marines, notably named characters, have lived much longer or still alive. Sigismund and Dante lived to be over a thousand.
Slight correction,
you might end up dead in the Imperium if you just knew about the chaos gods, any knowledge of daemons or gods other than the god emperor is heavily restricted in order to prevent panic or outright rebellion.
If you were an imperial citizen and were caught by higher ups to have asked questions about Nurgle for example, most ordinary people would assume you're talking about a corporation or individual, and if you got the wrong attention you'll end up kidnapped and interrogated, in which you'll probably be executed under the assumption you're a cultist or interact with cultists.
You can imagine the panic of people if they learned daemons could pop up near their world at any point and kill everyone, higher ups require an ignorant population to keep the cogs of war running.
It's also justified. Chaos is, to borrow terms from SCP, a memetic cognitohazard.
That is, it is literally dangerous information that corrupts those who know it, unless they're extremely faithful and protected by the Emperor. Moreover, it's highly transmisible, like a disease. Just some chaos scribbles on a napkin is enough to potentially turn anyone who sees it into a cultist given months or years of slow corruption.
That's where the shock of the Horus Heresy came from. Civilians may have herd urban legends, or spooky stories, but seeing marines and cultists, upclose, do messed us stuff, like chanting and sacrificing others, and it resulting in actual deamons springing forth into the material world, was all just so horrifying.
"Salmanders are the good guys"
Never ask a man his salary
A woman her age
Or What Vulkan did with that Eldar child
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Fuck the elder honestly, their entire purpose in existing is them screwing over the galaxy and giving chaos easy wins.
TBF it was a very bad day for Vulkan at that time (forced to assist in killing the very people he just saved, resulting in one of his friends being killed as collateral damage), and he would regret what he did. It doesn't excuse his actions, but it does provide some context.@@crabtales
he did the right thing
A filthy xeno is a filthy xeno.
Fun facts;
The floating skulls are called Servo-Skulls. They come from exceptional devout servants granted the honor of service beyond their death. Their brains are used as a computer to float around, delivering messages, acting like a personal assistant like Alexa, or recording audio/video for record keeping.
The winged babies are Cherubs. They're mutated, vat grown babies with very limited brain capacity, usually following predestined flight paths or following individuals while carrying ammunition, iconography, incense burners, etc.
The Zombie cyborgs are Servitors. They're usually criminals, but in some cases slaves or life long indentured servants, and other cases, kidnapped civilians. They're lobotomized and fused with equipment to carry out specific tasks, usually while still suffering. This could be acting like a living weapon turret, or grueling manual labor, or even worse, dolls for weathy lords to abuse however they please. Some times they have bouts of remembering their past lives, or exhibiting madness like gibbering or repeating a phrase over and over.
The thing with the 2 missing Primarchs is that they must have done something horrible, something so unforgiveable that all rrecords of them were erradicated from Imperial records. Thier Legion was disbanded and the Primarchs got killed, possibly by Leman Russ (Primarch of the Space Wolfs) who mentioned in some book i read latly that he already killed 2 Primarchs and has no problem with killing another.
I theorize that maybe the chaos gods got their hands on them before the emperor could. When the emperor realized this, he struck them down. Making sure they were forgotten.
i assume they 3d printed their own models and thus had to be taken out.
I think I remember reading one of the legions had rebelled and were wiped out by the space wolves.
I theorise the other primarch was probably killed and the emperor had all record of him expunged as damage control, if the average human learned a primarch could be killed imagine what that would do to morale, it's better to let humanity assume primarchs are immortal demi gods
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 the problem with the space wolves part is that apparently Lemun Russ didn’t know a primarch could die till he fought magnus (or it might have been when ferrus was killed).
I might be wrong, as I don’t remember where I read this.
However, they definitely did something horrible, since when Rogal asked Malcador for his memory of the Two. He said it was best if they made sure no one knew of the two lost primarchs.
@@halfknight2310 Since the meta explanation is that they are sort of like placeholders for your own homebrew legions, one loyalist and one traitor, I feel like the incidents that caused them to be expunged were either related, or that the loyalist either succumbed to chaos at the very end, or did something so horrific while thinking it was the right thing, that it still had to be erased. The exchange between Dorn and Malcador even explains that their legions are still out there, also without their memories of it, right? I think it was also an intentional opening for all of the more mysterious successor chapters with unclear and unremembered origins for it to be freely implied that they are from one of those original legions, rather than the ones they are speculated to have come from. Like the Carcharodons, the idea that they are Raven Guard is still unconfirmed, and they are indeed operating in exile in penance for some betrayal of the Emperor so ancient that they still speak the purest and most formal of High Gothic, and do so in part from having one of the weirdest gene defects from their Primarch not seen in any other known legion.
"How do you find out you're a psyker?"
Well one day Cthulhu tries to claw his way out of your eye sockets, then you kinda get the picture
Always love to see more Bricky reaction. This one was fantastic.
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Guy on the right is in luck if he wants to learn more about the 18 space marine legions, Bricky recently made a video explaining them all in greater detail
Welcome officially to the grim darkness of 41st Millenium! Love seeing rookie fans learn more about the lore
Cherubs fly around delivering ammo lol....
Roboute Guilliman of the Ultramarines has returned recently in the current books as well as some traitor primarchs that got turned into demons.
Bricky now has out a video about the legions specifically and their primarchs
Reading Horus Rising, I saw the famous line “in the future, there is only war” surprisingly was first spoken by not a Primarch, but Saul Tarvitz. It was like when they say the movie title in dialogue, “he said the thing!”
Cool reaction guys!
I would say one of the best films of all time "Event Horizon" is the accurate description of the warp and chaos.
I hope you choose a faction by the end of this.
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Blood for the Blood God!
Skulls for the Skull Throne!
Love the reactions and discussions. It's good there's a friend in the group who's more knowledgeable about Warhammer. Bricky's videos are amazing but he's not the "Lore Guy" I'd say. He's a great introduction to 40K
Thanks 😊 Bryce has been a great help and without him kirren and Jayson never would have seen this world
So far bricky has been very entertaining and yes a good slow start into Warhammer😊🦀
Barely more knowledgeable :P
29:19 - If you don't want to go first, then you face your regimental Commissar accompanied with his laspistol or bolterpistol pointed at your head and a strong suggestion of "battlefield execution"...
Every faction in 40k are good in thier own eyes, but to us they are all beyond absurd. However, every single one strikes for it's own survival in a galaxy and universe where everything else wants to destroy and dominate them. Even the Chaos Gods function this way, in the fact that no matter how little and innocent the influence of one of them on you starts, they feed off of the most extreme forms of that influence. Meaning you will go from honor in battle to just pure murder death slaughter, or painting to the most depraved torture and pleasure.
Not the drukhari tho. Even they know they are fcked up. XD
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They are still doing it for survival, but they are the only ones who explicitly deserve to not survive.
@@requiemlul3140 But they did It before they needed It to live... To become an addict you need to use It before. XD
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Yeah, they really should all die.
I am always so happy to see more folks learn more about warhammer 40k. I am really looking forward to seeing your impressions on all the lore coming you're way!
Aye bricky has a new video that talks but more about the 18 legions more in a nutshell so after this that’s a good vid
Warhammer 40k is like the only epic Sci fi I know of that has a super interesting version of humanity instead of current us plus X years in the future.
Humanity has risen to beyond Star Trek levels of technology and then collapsed once the Chaos God Slaanesh was born in like 20,000 AD. Then 10,000 years of decay, civil strife, isolation from space travel, Warp storms, and other things go by. The Emperor begins his conquest of Earth/Terra around 30,000 AD. 40,000 Ad is close to the time of the current state of the the Lore.
I’d like to add that you’ve summed it up pretty accurately, the only thing I could include would be to say the collapse would be like Mad Max 2 or Fury Road… so yeah from beyond Star Trek level of technology back to Mad Max in about 3 generations. 40k doesn’t pull any punches.
@@swordbrotherplatt9392 Right I was just trying to type fast at work.
Can't wait to see your next reaction!
Thanks for this amazing reaction video!
The primarchs all represent a different personality or ideal from the Emperor, and then their environment shaped them in different ways, Fulgrim is the Emperors perfection, so his legion is as such, Angron and Mortarion and two of the most changed by their environment
That Scene with the Kneeling Space marines is a cutscene from a game.
In this very Scene the reason for that Storm is the Orks.
That is no joke, there is a HORDE of Orks running across the planet and they push this tremendous gust of wind in front of them. That´s just how many orks there are. It´s pretty badass.
Personally, the Imperial Guards are very enjoyable. Yes it is one of those "use more fodders" faction, but in exchange they got the biggest vehicles the Imperium have. The most iconic one is the Baneblade Super Heavy Tank, which is like a fortress on tread. The Spacedock channel have a short video (few minutes long) describing the tank if you want a quick overview.
22:15 yes the guy with the shiny face mask In Astartes, that one of the Marines punches his face off,when the Shiny mask guy is connected to one of the balls, the Shiny mask dude, IS a member of the Inquisition. The Marine kills him because at that point he has become possessed by whatever was in the Ball.
I don't know but I assume the Shiny mask dude is psyker in the service of the Inquisition, who is trying to eavesdrop on the balls communicating to each other.
I dont know what the balls are , I have my theories, but its never fully explained
29:08 think of it this way, the less they spend on the imperial guard, the more they can spend on their super soldier space marines.
It's not so much that most factions are trying to be good or bad, it's just that it's a brutal galaxy where everyone is trying to survive and through learned experience they all know that the best way to survive is to kill everyone else before they can kill you. If you don't, your people end up enslaved, dead or worse.
You have to remember that this is a universe where demons exist. Orcs are running around and they think that attacking and destroying entire planets are fun. A literal hive mind of alien monsters is hungry and we're all food. Robot zombies exist and are offended that living things exist and want to purge the galaxy of all life. The list goes on and you can't really reason with anything I just mentioned so the default response to dealing with any one of them is to kill every last one because there really is no other option.
The Primarchs didn't only have different personalities because they grew up on different worlds... When the Emperor was making the Primarchs, he also had different purposes in mind for each of them, he had designed them to be different from each other.... Being flung to distant worlds did affect many of them, plus some may have been somewhat touched by the chaos powers on their way through the warp to those planets too... But yeah, they were never meant to be exactly the same in the first place...
The legions were put together after the primarchs were flung away, if I remember correctly, although they were always part of the plan... Each legion was originally recruited from various different places on Earth/Terra, I think... I think one possibly used criminals, another might have been taken from noble families... They each used gene seed based on the genetics of the primarch that was to lead their legion once they found them... When they found each primarch, usually they would start recruiting from the planet they called home. Eventually many of the Terran born members would die off and be replaced by recruits from that world, although there were still some Terrans around at the time of the Horus Heresy... Some turned against their traitor legions when the heresy began... Many from traitor legions were likely purged at Isstvan, when the first group of traitor legions got rid of anyone still potentially loyal to the Emperor over their primarchs... I don't think any Terran marines still exist in the current timeline... Even at the time of the heresy they were starting to get old, despite everything that kept them younger longer... I think some were maybe 300 to 500 years old then... I forget... If they remained with the traitors then possibly they might still live, due to the effects of the warp messing with time.
"do you get told that you're the one going out first at the front?" oh it's even worse than that, guardsmen KNOW that they are the fisrt and last on a battlefield, they exist to die in combat without a second thought, in fact if they don't comply to any order, they are immediatly executed, they can even be executed without a reason by a commisar just to "motivate" the others. and they never wait or count for reiforcement from the more advance faction like space marine, you have to understand that for a big part of regular people and soldier, space marine are like mythical figure that they will never even see in their lifetime. for guardsmen, seing them drop on a battlefield is like for us if we saw real angel or valkyrie.
to give more context. the primachs existed befor the spacemarines but as mentioned where scatterd around the galaxy, fortunly the emperor still had original genetic material in store. the first time the "modern" spacemarine where used was at the end of the unification wars to unite terra(earth). the exact fate of the 2 mission legions is not known to most of the imperium, only the emperor, malcador and as far we (as players and lorenerds) know the primach's know anything about it. and well for the question how many legions are there its easy , 18. but those legions where split after THE HORUS HERESY so no man could wield the power of entire legions at a time. its commonly sayed that there are 1000 chapters of spacemarines active in the imperium , those chapters are directly from the splitt or created with the genetic material of an loyal legion. a chapter in general has 1000 battlebrothers (special roles and are not counted )but this can differ from outside sources or war loses, some like the black templer are much bigger (allmost in legion strenght) but split themself in crusades and/or clades.
Nah its a misnomer by bricky each faction is trying to survive in a galaxy thats trying to kill them. So they have to do what needs to be do to live another day.
The thing in the forhead is a service star noting how long the Marine has served. Gold are 100 years silver 50 years. Space Marines are pretty much immortal but usually die in combat oldes one is Dante at 1500 years old (not counting dreadnoughts
"It is better to die for The Emporer than to live for yourself" Some loser loyalist
Ok so there are 18 ...Original Space Marine Chapters, half of which turned to Chaos. After the Horus Heresy they Created some new Chapters, and there have been many many Chapter "foundings" since, so there are literally thousands of space Marine chapters
Many of them are "Successor" chapters to the original "Loyalist" 9 Chapters that remained after the Horus Heresy.
GW have made it so you can basically make up your own Chapter if you wish, but there are at least 200+ Chapters that have been mentioned by name and usually some lore , in official GW 40k lore/Rule books/Fiction. So you have a huge choice of Space Marine Chapters.
Every faction is setup like this pretty much. Imperial guard, Elder, Chaos, Heretic/Renegade, Tau, Orc, Necron, all allow you to create your own "Faction" within each race, or choose form thousands of already created factions 20-200+ already created officially
Some races are fleshed out with background lore more than others , but all have pretty much total freedom, and a lot already there to chose from.
You can even create your own faction/race. For example you could make a small Human splinter system/empire that is small enough that it has not really been noticed by the Imperium yet, but do things differently, and are strong enough they have survived since the Dark age of technology (pre Horus Heresy, pre Emperor crusades to unite humanity).
It would even be possible they may have some "good" Space Marines, as not everything was fully accounted for in the Crusade period.
It is possible that a small branch of the Crusade became cut off and therefore retained some Marines and even maybe an STC which would allow them to create more, Marines.
The Empire was vastly different when the crusades were happening, as was probably a far nicer more forgiving place to live post crusade then the 40k time frame or what preceded that (Dark age of Technology/Age of Strife). There were also millions and millions of Marines, the Dark Angles themselves were probably about the same size as all the known current 40 K Space Marine Chapters , all combined
Its quite possible a disconnected splinter of humanity with some resources and maybe even some Marines, continued closer to the Emperors original path, so you can even make you own Good guys if you want, technically. The irony being these Humans would almost certainly be seen as heretics and squashed with extreme prejudice by the Imperium, despite them being closer to the Emperor's original vision
Emperor is powering the Astronomicon that Imperium of Man uses to navigate the Warp. The Navigators look into the Warp and look for the light that shows where Terra (Earth) is, they calculate their position and where they need to go and feed the ship the course and speed needed to get there. The problem is, that light? When you look at it all you hear is agonized incoherent screaming. Emperor is powering the Astronomicon by having his very soul shredded and drained, that is why he has to have his life force replenished by high powered psykers. There is a whole Black Fleet scattered across the galaxy that picks up those talented from human colony worlds to bring them to Holy Terra to be sacrificed. Suffice to say, the emperor is not having a good time and it is questionable how well does his mind function after 10 000 years of this.
You guys should watch Bricky's '40k Timeline' video
Also Horus wasn't actually the first one found....Alpharius was....Horus was just the first one to be publicly announced ;)
This is a lie, I know because I am Alpharius.
Got Grey Knights confused with Imperial Knights at the end.
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You guys have got the HERESY down pat, so you're doing just fine.
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"But there's less bad, which almost internally makes it good"
"You should never grade evils, Kruber; for if one is the worst, you might be tempted to kinship with the least." - Victor Saltzpyre, Witch Hunter
But yes, each faction believes themselves to be in the right; we as outside observers can see how vicious and cruel they all are really.
20:25 Nope, being an average Imperium citizen and even being aware of the Chaos gods, existence,, would mean certain death. In fact even if you were a High ranking Imperial guard officer, merely knowing of the Choase gods would at very least cause mind wipe, and if you were expendable...death. Certain units/forces deal with Chaos.
Even some Space Marines would be shielded from fighting Chaos if possible,
If a Chaos cult broke out on a planet n a big way, it will likely be nuked from orbit or Virus bombed, rather than them waste energy even more Man power on a long drawn out recapture
very calming to watch him have them watch, gotta say.
also: that headthing: its a veterancy mark, unsure about the wording, as my books are all german :D
anyway, kudos from germany. you should watch the rest
Thank you 🙏 😊 we will do 🦀
another thing: cherubs are vat born iirc. :)
wasnt the first primarch he found alpharius on terra actually?
If you guy want more specific lore on events or factions, I'd suggest looking up Lutein's or Arch's channels.
'gratz on hitting 1k
two of the primarchs in lore , you do not know what exactly happened to them , the shape of the gods of chaos are not as they are seen in the artworks , if you want to know how they probably could be , I recommend this video of majorkill : What Do The Chaos Gods Actually Look Like? ,for the xenophobia of the imperium there is a reason , the first race they encountered were the orcs if I remember correctly , there is a race that he will not show in the video, they are the ''dwarves'', the faction is called leagues of votann, in the lore they already existed but it was said that most had been exterminated by tyranids, but recently they reintroduced them , my favorite space marine chapter is: carcharodons, they have the biggest chapter master in existence, Tyberos the red wake
I really like your energy since you're focus on listening and learning instead of talking over it like other youtubers.
And no offense but the host is kinda bad at explaining, also a comment before already said just watch the video and most of your question will be answered.
Thanks😊
And yeah we kinda feel our questions will be answered but sometimes knowing something or being described something that we may have not understood (cause there is allot going on) may help us understand something at that point instead of being told later 🤷♂️ and the host (Bryce) may explain something in a way kirren and Jayson can understand.. he has been very helpful even tho they rip into him a bit 😊🦀
the white castle joke btw is something you gotta be american to get lmao so whitecastle is like REALLY BAD and no one goes there but what happens at 2am? closed and all the lights are off, well whitecastle is so broke and no one goes that at 2 am it wouldnt be dark.. it would be pitch fucking black because there aint NOTHING gonna be around that place lmao
If anybody wants to learn about 40k in general, I'd be happy to discuss
If you are just a normal pleb even having Knowledge of the powers of Chaos is considered heresy, because knowledge is power and knowledge of chaos corrupts.
All knowledge of chaos and the chaos gods is censored by the Eclisiarchy and Inquisition.
Hell yeah great video to react to
He's right, it's all perspective. Everyone's bad except the faction you just so happen to play as/subscribe to the lore more. No one's right or wrong, no one's good or bad, except you, and even then, it's only to a point.
Nobady is the bad guy in there own story
Yes there are less evil factions but none of them are good. All factions do horrible shit and despite everything the Imperium does. They’re probably the best chance you’d have in that universe. Besides maybe one other but I really wouldn’t take my chances with an alien race when it’s comes to the survival of a human.
you could do hour long videos on each legion of the space marines. you should check out arbiter ian's videos
yeh those things in foreheads are not implants but service studds. i think its 1 for every 50 or 100 years
*Milkyway Galaxy.
Omg i got so much shit to Say but i wont cuz I'm lazy so il just go over my main problems, so the primarchs did exist before the Space marines, the Space marines were made from their genetic material after they were scattered all over the galaxy. The Lion was the first primarch, and his legion the Dark Angels were the first space marine legion to be created. Second the baby charabs carry around ammo and shit, they are made from already dead babies. The stubs on the foreheads of the Space marines represent how long they have been fighting, not one of the implants, unless an implants/gene seed mutate horribly like in the case of the Black Dragons or Space Sharks u wont notice them like that. Each stub represents different amount of years, i believe the silver stub is 50 years and a gold one is 100 years.
I don't think Good and bad are even relevant on that scale there is only self-interest and all the factions act according to the needs of their people and the environment they live in.
Why is it everytime someone gets told about 40k they cant seem to get the no good guys thing, everyone and everything is kinda shit. Welcome to the party try and survive whooo.
I recomment videos by the Templin Academy for a deeper, concise lore dive and by Luetin09 if you wanna go b***s deep
"damnit I have to live another day" sounds like Kreig
Never understand this meme about Krieg being suicidal, because their lore is anything but. They're willing to sacrifice much like Iron Hands marines, being ultra utilitarian and all, but they understand it's better to live another day so they can kill more heretics/xenos.
"but they're less bad, so that makes them good"
"No."
That made me laugh hard.
It's no wonder Kirren and Jayson, who know nothing of 40K are confused. Bryce sucks at explaining it... Especially when the guys are asking for clarification. Bricky also has way to many community "in Jokes" that 90% of new fans don't get at all, but at least from a "baby's first introduction to W40K" he's pretty easy to understand.
A few points;
- All factions have their own gods/beliefs/drives to kill everyone else. this makes them neither "bad" or "good". humanity is Xenophic, relgious zealots that wants to genocide everything not us. BUT, the alternative is humanity gets genocided, enslaved, or eaten alive. (aka extinction of our race). Same for everyone else.
- sacrificing 1000 psykers a day.. YES it IS CRAZY. As a chance of being born a Psyker is like 1 in 1 billion... BUT Humanities population is VAST in the year 40,000. Terra's population (Earth, the very same planet we are on right now) in W40k is described as "being in the Quadrillions". As in MULTIPLE QUADRILLIONS. Terra is covered in a planet wide city and has multiple "orbital continental plates" multiplying the total inhabitable surface area of the planet. Also Luna (the moon) and every terraformable celestial body in our solar system is inhabited. Now lastly there is Roughly 1 million Solar Systems across the galaxy under humanities control at any given time. Not all as populated as terra, but many are. literally dubbed "hive Worlds" and also "Forge Worlds" and planet sized human built "great anchorages" (artificial rings that either encircle entire moons/planets, or are thousands of kilometres sprawling "star bases" - that service as the ports/docks/shipyards for entire fleets) have quadrillions of humans living on them. Even the larger ships of the imperial navy, at around 15-20km long, can have crews in the MILLIONS. And humanity has MILLIONS of these battleships/cruisers.
When you have time can you react to ▶️ Space Marine Creation by Luetin09
THe two "Unknown" legions are "unknown" so people can create their own Space Marine and Chaos Space Marine legion on the tabletop...or so I heared.
Meta-wise, yea as a player that's what you're expected to understand. In-universe it's because they did some big no-nos during the prime days of the Emperor so he excommunicated them. He believe not telling the mass population about the horrors of Chaos will be better off.
@rnlansdownemobile yeah but if they did "big no-nos" and then were just sent away, instead of executed, we would see them returning, corrupted into Chaos legions, and we don't...
Why are you asking all the questions before you even watch the video. Half of the questions got answered literally in said video.
Guy in middle is being a Karen
There are 2 sides to the 40k fandom:
1 cope and sugarcoat everything about 40k, even things related to GW's ethics; The other nitpick everything.
Trying to justify other faction's morals?
HERESY!