All this years everyone been complaining about lumix's continuous autofocus because they been sticking with their DFD tech. Now what sorcery they have done to catch up with sony in AF performance in this shot span after they adopting phase dictect. Fuji had phase dictect since a long time and they still struggle to get it done right. If lumix had done this years ago, maybe current market situation could have been too different.
even my canon 6DmkII had a way better AF than my S5 or gh6 despite being 4-5 older. I Love my S5 and i had to rely on the AF some times because it was on gimbal, as much as I pushed the shutter button to remake focus , damn It was all about luck sometimes to get the shot net and clean. Even struggle in easy lighting situation. worst was in a concert hall for an esport event , multilple lighting sources with fire , fireworks ; Dude was bringing the trophy on stage , I had s5 on gimbal up in the air to get upon the crown. The shot was magnificent but i had like just 20% in focus , I was so mad at lumix for that ;
@@Ey3shi3ldtv i was thinking about gh7 and g9ii. On multiple AF test i saw on RUclips it seems that they have done an absolutely amazing job. Maybe in upcoming fullframe models we could see the same af performance
The 20mm f1.7II works very well on my G9II, so it will probably works well on the GH7 too, the AF is fast in video, much better than on the GH6 or GH5. However it is noisy if you shoot with the internal mic on a silent room. I had some issue with my 45-175mm on my G9II though, even in AF-S with back button focus. It sometimes loses everything in focus, like the GH6 did when using most lenses below 48fps. My 45-175mm is not very sharp so maybe it is an issue with my sample, but I never had this issue with my GH6 and GH5 when using back button focus.
Great video! I’m definitely going to have to pick this up. I own most all of these lenses. Been a Panasonic user since the GH1!!! Finally good AF. Currently on 2 GH5 and a GH5s. They are such work horse cameras 🐎
I coudn’t find an About page on the channel Shane. (I googled and I read that RUclips changed it) so I checked Description, your web page and links but no joy unfortunately? BTW, I love the colours you are getting through RUclips. I see many colorists and reviewers who have great technical content but fail to render great looking videos. A lot fall apart when projected in home theatre but yours look excellent. Can I ask which lens you used for the intro and the wind up thoughts on the GH7 around 7.50 timeline? I am trying to decide between the GH7 and the S511X and lenses (while trying to keep weight under control) and your content is most helpful as it represents what goes through our minds on the endless combinations out there. Great work! Thanks
@@GeekyNerdyTechy all good, thank you! The only difference between the versions is version 2 (H-HSA12035) is weather sealed and has linear focus for video. Version I (H-HS12035) is still an absolutely stellar lens, and a touch lighter.
Great video - as always... Thank you for all that you do. --QUESTION-- How can I let LUMIX know that removing the "Multiple Exposure" feature from the S5 series and the New Micro 4/3 bodies, was a very bad idea. Where is the best place to submit feedback directly to LUMIX?
Thanks for the video, Shane. I keep forgetting it is the middle of winter down in Australia. But as American Humorist Mark Twain once wrote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco" The GH7 looks great, but... It would have looked a lot better if it had come out two-plus years ago BEFORE the FX30 came out. I know they said they would never do it, but Panasonic really has to start thinking about aps-c format cameras, IMHO, if they want to be competitive.
What about the pan 100-400 for birds and wildlife? I have the original version and it is pretty poor for video of flying birds. I have a GH7 on preorder. It is supposed to ship in 3 days, so I guess I will find out:)
Looking very good for RUclips type shooting. But looking at the background, as you are walking quickly but at a constant speed towards the camera, you can see the AF pulsing in several steps. Again, useful (and a massive improvement fromDFD) but it shows where Panasonic has room to improve.
I would like to see AF test using EF lens with adapter because that's a real scenario being a filmmaker, so if it's possible, do a test using a Viltrox adapter with Sigma 18 35 f1.8 and EF canon lens, thank you
Need help I have a Panasonic GH5ii running a G 14-140mm f/3.5-5.6II Lens l film boats crossing grey bar. I am new to filming I’m having trouble with the automatic focus specially with the lights on the Boats and the seagulls. I have set the automatic focused on high and the sensitive the high which has helped a little bit any help would be grateful😃
I only have cheap and somewhat old lenses, from your list I only have the 25mm, I also have a 12-35, 14-42, 45-150,35-100... all old and cheap lenses. How would it work for those lenses?
Great compilation! I have or have had all the lenses, except the 12-35 mm. Have you still got the Olympus 75mm f/1.8? It doesn't work great on my G9 ii.
definitely looking at getting a gh7 with the 10-25mm one day (can only really justify a new body right now; going to have to get rid of my gh5ii to do it though). was there any consideration to doing this test at 100p? more frames for autofocus and seeing your face in glorious 4x slo-mo?
If you shoot 100p in the Recording Menu, you get PDAF, but loose the human detection/tracking modes. If you shoot with variable frame rate (like S&Q) It's stuck to manual focus but it slows it down in camera. The G9II keeps PDAF in S&Q which gives it the advantage.
Have you tried Olympus and Sigma lenses with the GH7? I am a Lumix guy (G9, GH5 II, GH5s) saving up to buy the GH7. My lenses include the Olympus 8mm Fisheye, 17mm f1.8, 60mm macro, and 100-400, and the Olympus 1.4x and 2x teleconverters. One day I will get the 90 macro and the 75 1.8. Sigma I have the 16, 30, and 56 1.4's On the Lumix/Leica side I have the 7-14, 12/1.4, 12-35/2.8, 14-42 PZ, 20, 25/1.7, 30 macro, 35-100/2.8, 42.5/1.2, 45 macro, and 45-175 PZ. One day I will get the 10-25 and 25-50 zooms A lot of us use a mix of lens brands, especially Olympus and Lumix/Leica, and Sigma, but all the reviews are only addressing the Lumix/Leica lenses and ignoring Olympus and Sigma, which is not realistic compared to real world lens usage. If Panasonic are only permitting Lumix/Leica lenses in reviews then they are idiots, and being anti-user in that attitude. If they are not, can you please try out Olympus and Sigma lenses on the camera?
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Do you have any Olympus lenses to try? While my basics like the 12-35 and 35-100/2.8's are Lumix or Leica, Olympus is essential for the things where Panasonic is lacking. like the 1.8 fisheye, longer focal length macros, etc. and they are an essential part of an MFT kit. I wish Panasonic would get back to developing new MFT lenses. We need a 105mm macro, 17mm f1.7, 12mm f1.7, and a 6mm f2 or 2.8 for a start. My Sigmas are mostly for my LS300 which has an MFT mount with a Super35 sensor, but the Sigma 56 I find really useful on my Lumix bodies as well. Awesome lens.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy as a seperate test, would you be able to test the buffer clearance between the G9II and the GH7 after the 3 seconds of photos at 75fps? I imagine the CF Express clears it much quicker, but it would be an interesting test comparing the CF Express vs SD card vs SSD. Thanks
Awesome video! Quick question if I may. I have the GH6 and use a combo of manual and AF lenses. Would a LiDAR autofocus system give similar AF results as the GH7? Or is the PDAF better even than LiDAR?
Lidar works to detect what's closest to the camera so if you hold your hand up, it may move to that instead. I haven't used a Lidar system, it may have moved forward since I looked into it a year or two ago. PDAF is better generally due to the tracking modes, but both will no doubt do a good job. I think Lidar can work in darker situations pretty well.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Superb, thank you for taking the time to answer. I’ve been tempted by a LiDAR system for a while for manual focus lenses, so may pull the trigger and see how it goes. The GH7 does look very impressive though!
Imaging as lumix dev you can go back in the past " Drop down this shi*** af technology do like sony or canon " s1h s5 gh5 would have been such godlike cameras
Focus isn't smooth at this point; it is stepping through. The positive thing is that it sticks, but it still needs improvement when following. I still think they could have done a better job with the pulsing on the GH6, as all it needs to do is hold focus and not hunt.
@@castielvargastv7931 I understand that, but if the subject isn’t moving, why does it still need to hunt? It should be able to lock focus and stay there unless there's a significant change, like placing your hand in front of your face or making a dramatic movement. With the machine learning capabilities, this shouldn’t be too difficult, right?
@@pragmaticfilmmakingI don't think that works with Contrast Detect since it's never entirely sure where it should focus. If for example CD thought it was in focus, it would remain out-of-focus the whole time if the scene didn't change. PDAF doesn't need to search, as it is more of a yes/no instead of a maybe.
@@overnightdelivery The machine learning system can distinguish different body parts and tell the difference between humans and animals. In my studio, even when there's only one well-lit person, the system keeps readjusting its focus, which creates the pulsing effect. I discovered that the pulsing stops by reducing the AF sensitivity to -3. There's room for improvement in this aspect. Additionally, if the pulsing frequency is over 60fps, the human eye shouldn't be able to detect it, so that might be another area Lumix could look into. Panasonic just seems uninterested, and the even BGH1 could be vastly improved with just a few simple firmware updates.
@@pragmaticfilmmaking But isn't the animal/person detection different than pure contrast detection? Guess we'll never know for sure if it could of been improved to the point of being reliable.
I coudn’t find an About page on the channel (I googled and I read that RUclips changed it) so I checked Description, your web page and links but no joy unfortunately?
those tests are annoying , yes its important for it to pick up focus at close distance but more important test is how the focus sticks when moving in the frame in regular distance (when you shoot people not only yourself..)
It's the same thing, if someone is holding the camera and you walk in what's the difference? I've used the AF on a bunch of tests in my review of the G9II and GH7. Check out those scenarios and see if they make you feel better.
I'd be very curious about how the new AF works with something like a Metabones speedbooster + lets say Sigma 18-35. Is it usable or still a no go with that new system? Thank you. :)
Great reviews always! Many thanks for your efforts. I do like to see the AF and low light performance using adapted EF lenses via speed booster. No review on this from anyone yet.
I wonder why the 12 mm (2016) is so "bad", while the two year earlier released 42.5 mm (2014) is fine. They both use stepper motors for focusing. Also the 17 mm is from 2014.
nice. i have the g9ii and pre-ordered the gh7 (mostly for still photography) because of the tilt-screen, express card, locking mode dial, and a lumix rep said the g9ii is not exactly the same; gh7 has more dynamic range.
I dont know what you do with your lumix 42mm 1.7. it was unusuable with my gh5 and it still is with my gh7 the lense refuses to focus at all if i am lets say on the far left side of the frame. It only works with very simple tasks and overal its very unrelieable if it comes to autofocus. I paid over 400 euros for this lense and its autofocus was too bad always even for fotos when i tried to use it with my gh5. For fotos it focuses slow and hesitant if i push the shutter button and in video its too unreliebale. I just keep it because no one wants to pay for this piece of garbage. I own lumix 1.7 25mm as well and its not sharp at 1.7. i have to stop down to at least 2.8 to make it acceptable sharp. Even the super cheap 12-35 3.5-56 is much much sharper wide open and the autofovcus is better as well. All those old lumix lenses need an update as the really are not good in 2024. . 12-60, 14-140 and leica 15mm 1.7 are good in my book but usually i just use the olympus pro 12-40 2.8. olympus lenses are much better than all those old lumix lenses in general.
For a second I couldn’t figure out why you were dressed in such warm clothing! Well done video! As someone else noted, it would be interesting to see results with some OM(Olympus) lenses as well. Too bad the Pan 15mm 1.7 doesn’t work as well…a nice lens!
I second your motion about Oly lenses! I reckon the 15mm is now very good compared with Shane’s previous tests as long as the subject isn’t doing crazy movements!
Yeah it's maybe the best prime lens Panasonic has made in terms of overall look and performance. Expensive when it came out but manages to give that full frame look without being overly soft like most lenses at that aperture. I wish Panasonic would also make a 20mm f/0.95 and it would really make m43 more appealing for people that feel they need shallow DOF.
Great to see the improvements with the 15mm! It is now most certainly usable. Do you have any Olympus lenses you can test? The G9II is a great option. The size to performance ratio is optimal IMHO.
Been waiting for this! Do you think panasonic has reached sony in terms of autofocus? Is it finally the time that people stop worshiping their sonys for their autofocus? Also if the autofocus is fast you can always slow it down to make it look smoother(for video because for photography you want the opposite). Just a note for the fanboys that will come here and try to find something to argue that their sony is better😅
Sony's focus pull is great, but the LUMIX focus pull is faster in most scenarios. It will also track you further back in the frame with human detection on. Sony's dedicated eye tracking is very sticky up close but it can lose you furrther back. I find hte S5II and X to be better than my Sony's for talk to camera pieces. The problem is a lot of people don't understand the modes on the Panasonic cameras, but it's at a point now where it's better than people realise.
Glad it helped. I used to own that lens back in the day. I find it also has too much Chroma for my liking. Something about that lens structure has always struggled with AF, not sure what it is.
@@DroseMr I was going to add there are very few other visible differences. I bought version II of the lens thinking it was version I, and neither I nor the shop spotted it until I came to update the firmware. Very happy discovery.
I just got my GH7 on the actual release date from B&H and I’m very disappointed with the PDAF. The focus is drifting and it seems no better than the GH6 so I’m sending it back.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy I’ve contacted Panasonic and they determined that something was wrong with the sensor and recommend a replacement camera especially suggesting that I use mode 2 and full area view which focus 95 percent better but I still get some drifting.
Wow .. never dreamed with autofocus ever as Lumix user 😅… amazing video , thanks 🙏🏻
It's pretty surreal using a lumix m43 camera with good AF. It's not like the old days anymore, thankfully.
Although I primarily a photographer with some video… with the current firmwares on both G9ii & GH7… I would go for GH7
Thank you for this video, I have most of these lenses and GH6, now I’m considering the GH7 😅
Cool test. I've never seen anybody do af test with almost all actual lenses at once. Good job)
All this years everyone been complaining about lumix's continuous autofocus because they been sticking with their DFD tech. Now what sorcery they have done to catch up with sony in AF performance in this shot span after they adopting phase dictect. Fuji had phase dictect since a long time and they still struggle to get it done right. If lumix had done this years ago, maybe current market situation could have been too different.
even my canon 6DmkII had a way better AF than my S5 or gh6 despite being 4-5 older. I Love my S5 and i had to rely on the AF some times because it was on gimbal, as much as I pushed the shutter button to remake focus , damn It was all about luck sometimes to get the shot net and clean. Even struggle in easy lighting situation. worst was in a concert hall for an esport event , multilple lighting sources with fire , fireworks ; Dude was bringing the trophy on stage , I had s5 on gimbal up in the air to get upon the crown. The shot was magnificent but i had like just 20% in focus , I was so mad at lumix for that ;
@@Ey3shi3ldtv i was thinking about gh7 and g9ii. On multiple AF test i saw on RUclips it seems that they have done an absolutely amazing job. Maybe in upcoming fullframe models we could see the same af performance
@@reeshmalms6686 wont have any update to gh5-6 or S5 towards AF since its completly différent AF technology
The 20mm f1.7II works very well on my G9II, so it will probably works well on the GH7 too, the AF is fast in video, much better than on the GH6 or GH5. However it is noisy if you shoot with the internal mic on a silent room.
I had some issue with my 45-175mm on my G9II though, even in AF-S with back button focus. It sometimes loses everything in focus, like the GH6 did when using most lenses below 48fps. My 45-175mm is not very sharp so maybe it is an issue with my sample, but I never had this issue with my GH6 and GH5 when using back button focus.
Hey bro 😃 I liked it. I'm even more exited now when my GH7 arrives. It looked nice sharp and crisp 🙌
Thanks for the update, I think I had the really old one back in the day.
This test was awesome Thanks! I can't wait to test it with my favourite trio of Sigma 16, 30 and 56mm 1.4😃🔥
Thanks, Ken! I hope you're well, man.
Thanks for this excellent overview
the Lumix 12-60 2.8-4.0 on my G9II works great So does the 45-150.
Thanks for the info! Cheers. :)
Is it possible for you to make a high iso comparison between GH7s and GH5s? That would be great!
Could you test the Olympus Pro series of lenses? 17, 25 and 45mm 1.2
Honestly that would great
I don't own them but I will see what I can do. :)
Great video! I’m definitely going to have to pick this up. I own most all of these lenses. Been a Panasonic user since the GH1!!! Finally good AF. Currently on 2 GH5 and a GH5s. They are such work horse cameras 🐎
I love my gh5 , most rewarding camera ever.
I coudn’t find an About page on the channel Shane. (I googled and I read that RUclips changed it) so I checked Description, your web page and links but no joy unfortunately? BTW, I love the colours you are getting through RUclips. I see many colorists and reviewers who have great technical content but fail to render great looking videos. A lot fall apart when projected in home theatre but yours look excellent. Can I ask which lens you used for the intro and the wind up thoughts on the GH7 around 7.50 timeline? I am trying to decide between the GH7 and the S511X and lenses (while trying to keep weight under control) and your content is most helpful as it represents what goes through our minds on the endless combinations out there. Great work! Thanks
Great review since autofocus always depends on so many factors…lenses, subject, background…thank you for all the effort 🏆🏆
My pleasure!
Thanks. Very useful video!
Hugely appreciated! The hard yards! Was it version 1 of the 25mm f/1.4 you were testing or version 2?
I didn't know there were two versions, I am not sure. Sorry about that.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy all good, thank you! The only difference between the versions is version 2 (H-HSA12035) is weather sealed and has linear focus for video. Version I
(H-HS12035) is still an absolutely stellar lens, and a touch lighter.
Thanks Shane - super useful video! Have bookmarked it.
Great video - as always... Thank you for all that you do. --QUESTION-- How can I let LUMIX know that removing the "Multiple Exposure" feature from the S5 series and the New Micro 4/3 bodies, was a very bad idea. Where is the best place to submit feedback directly to LUMIX?
Thanks for the video, Shane. I keep forgetting it is the middle of winter down in Australia. But as American Humorist Mark Twain once wrote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco" The GH7 looks great, but... It would have looked a lot better if it had come out two-plus years ago BEFORE the FX30 came out. I know they said they would never do it, but Panasonic really has to start thinking about aps-c format cameras, IMHO, if they want to be competitive.
I own a g5 and i dont miss apsc or full frame at all
Sir I want lumix s9 videos feature review● Your are making great videos ❤
What about the pan 100-400 for birds and wildlife? I have the original version and it is pretty poor for video of flying birds. I have a GH7 on preorder. It is supposed to ship in 3 days, so I guess I will find out:)
Looking very good for RUclips type shooting. But looking at the background, as you are walking quickly but at a constant speed towards the camera, you can see the AF pulsing in several steps. Again, useful (and a massive improvement fromDFD) but it shows where Panasonic has room to improve.
I would like to see AF test using EF lens with adapter because that's a real scenario being a filmmaker, so if it's possible, do a test using a Viltrox adapter with Sigma 18 35 f1.8 and EF canon lens, thank you
Thank you Shane for this valuable video🙏❤️.
Thanks for the kind words!
Need help I have a Panasonic GH5ii running a G 14-140mm f/3.5-5.6II Lens l film boats crossing grey bar. I am new to filming I’m having trouble with the automatic focus specially with the lights on the Boats and the seagulls. I have set the automatic focused on high and the sensitive the high which has helped a little bit any help would be grateful😃
I haven't used that lens before but the one area mode box option with AF is usually a good choice for getting fast autofocus on a particular object.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy thanks
Would you like to test Sigma18-35 via metabones speedbooster?
I don't run adapters mate, sorry.
I would love to see a new prime set from pany/leica.
Same filter size, similar body size, etc.
Try with lumix 20mm f1.7 . Which have very slow focus and dont have autofocus continues
will the phase detect autofocus work with Olympus lens?
Yes it should be fine with any of their lenses.
I only have cheap and somewhat old lenses, from your list I only have the 25mm, I also have a 12-35, 14-42, 45-150,35-100... all old and cheap lenses. How would it work for those lenses?
Can you test gh7 when multiple people are in frame
Great compilation! I have or have had all the lenses, except the 12-35 mm.
Have you still got the Olympus 75mm f/1.8? It doesn't work great on my G9 ii.
Thanks for watching! I don't have that one mate, sorry.
Thanks
definitely looking at getting a gh7 with the 10-25mm one day (can only really justify a new body right now; going to have to get rid of my gh5ii to do it though).
was there any consideration to doing this test at 100p? more frames for autofocus and seeing your face in glorious 4x slo-mo?
If you shoot 100p in the Recording Menu, you get PDAF, but loose the human detection/tracking modes. If you shoot with variable frame rate (like S&Q) It's stuck to manual focus but it slows it down in camera. The G9II keeps PDAF in S&Q which gives it the advantage.
Have you tried Olympus and Sigma lenses with the GH7? I am a Lumix guy (G9, GH5 II, GH5s) saving up to buy the GH7. My lenses include the Olympus 8mm Fisheye, 17mm f1.8, 60mm macro, and 100-400, and the Olympus 1.4x and 2x teleconverters. One day I will get the 90 macro and the 75 1.8.
Sigma I have the 16, 30, and 56 1.4's
On the Lumix/Leica side I have the 7-14, 12/1.4, 12-35/2.8, 14-42 PZ, 20, 25/1.7, 30 macro, 35-100/2.8, 42.5/1.2, 45 macro, and 45-175 PZ. One day I will get the 10-25 and 25-50 zooms
A lot of us use a mix of lens brands, especially Olympus and Lumix/Leica, and Sigma, but all the reviews are only addressing the Lumix/Leica lenses and ignoring Olympus and Sigma, which is not realistic compared to real world lens usage. If Panasonic are only permitting Lumix/Leica lenses in reviews then they are idiots, and being anti-user in that attitude. If they are not, can you please try out Olympus and Sigma lenses on the camera?
I don't own any sigma lenses mate, I need to get one and give it a shot at some point.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Do you have any Olympus lenses to try? While my basics like the 12-35 and 35-100/2.8's are Lumix or Leica, Olympus is essential for the things where Panasonic is lacking. like the 1.8 fisheye, longer focal length macros, etc. and they are an essential part of an MFT kit.
I wish Panasonic would get back to developing new MFT lenses. We need a 105mm macro, 17mm f1.7, 12mm f1.7, and a 6mm f2 or 2.8 for a start.
My Sigmas are mostly for my LS300 which has an MFT mount with a Super35 sensor, but the Sigma 56 I find really useful on my Lumix bodies as well. Awesome lens.
@@artistjoh So do I. I have the trio of Sigma lenses 16, 30 and 56mm 1.4 and I love those glasses.
Olympus pro lenses are great
Can you please compare G9ii with Fujifilm xs20? Which one has better readout speed or has lesser rolling shutter?
I'll see what I can do. Fuji don't respond to my emails anymore so they must have been unhappy with my old videos haha. :)
@GeekyNerdyTechy Much appreciate your efforts. Great going and thank you 😊
Great video! Would you mind sharing your AF settings for this?
It's all set to default speed and sensitivity and human/body tracking.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy as a seperate test, would you be able to test the buffer clearance between the G9II and the GH7 after the 3 seconds of photos at 75fps?
I imagine the CF Express clears it much quicker, but it would be an interesting test comparing the CF Express vs SD card vs SSD. Thanks
Awesome video! Quick question if I may. I have the GH6 and use a combo of manual and AF lenses. Would a LiDAR autofocus system give similar AF results as the GH7? Or is the PDAF better even than LiDAR?
Lidar works to detect what's closest to the camera so if you hold your hand up, it may move to that instead. I haven't used a Lidar system, it may have moved forward since I looked into it a year or two ago. PDAF is better generally due to the tracking modes, but both will no doubt do a good job. I think Lidar can work in darker situations pretty well.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Superb, thank you for taking the time to answer. I’ve been tempted by a LiDAR system for a while for manual focus lenses, so may pull the trigger and see how it goes. The GH7 does look very impressive though!
Imaging as lumix dev you can go back in the past " Drop down this shi*** af technology do like sony or canon " s1h s5 gh5 would have been such godlike cameras
How about autofocus in less ideal lightning as in the evening?
It works great in most scenarios. Gerald tested some low light AF tests in his video, but in my real-world stuff it's been great.
Focus isn't smooth at this point; it is stepping through. The positive thing is that it sticks, but it still needs improvement when following. I still think they could have done a better job with the pulsing on the GH6, as all it needs to do is hold focus and not hunt.
Pulsing is part of how the old lumix focusing works. It cant be eliminated completely
@@castielvargastv7931 I understand that, but if the subject isn’t moving, why does it still need to hunt? It should be able to lock focus and stay there unless there's a significant change, like placing your hand in front of your face or making a dramatic movement. With the machine learning capabilities, this shouldn’t be too difficult, right?
@@pragmaticfilmmakingI don't think that works with Contrast Detect since it's never entirely sure where it should focus. If for example CD thought it was in focus, it would remain out-of-focus the whole time if the scene didn't change. PDAF doesn't need to search, as it is more of a yes/no instead of a maybe.
@@overnightdelivery The machine learning system can distinguish different body parts and tell the difference between humans and animals. In my studio, even when there's only one well-lit person, the system keeps readjusting its focus, which creates the pulsing effect. I discovered that the pulsing stops by reducing the AF sensitivity to -3. There's room for improvement in this aspect. Additionally, if the pulsing frequency is over 60fps, the human eye shouldn't be able to detect it, so that might be another area Lumix could look into. Panasonic just seems uninterested, and the even BGH1 could be vastly improved with just a few simple firmware updates.
@@pragmaticfilmmaking But isn't the animal/person detection different than pure contrast detection? Guess we'll never know for sure if it could of been improved to the point of being reliable.
Hi Shane, I am in Melbourne and was wondering whether there is an email address I could contact you on?
Check my RUclips about page, I am not typing it publicly for spam reasons.
I coudn’t find an About page on the channel (I googled and I read that RUclips changed it) so I checked Description, your web page and links but no joy unfortunately?
thank you bro
the pdaf work good with 1080p 50/60 ff mode ?
Yes, it does.
Why don't you show us 4k50p & 4k100p autofocus performance ?
4K50 is the same performance, I showed that on my G9II review. Rock on.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy and what about 4k 100p ??
those tests are annoying , yes its important for it to pick up focus at close distance but more important test is how the focus sticks when moving in the frame in regular distance (when you shoot people not only yourself..)
It's the same thing, if someone is holding the camera and you walk in what's the difference? I've used the AF on a bunch of tests in my review of the G9II and GH7. Check out those scenarios and see if they make you feel better.
I'd be very curious about how the new AF works with something like a Metabones speedbooster + lets say Sigma 18-35. Is it usable or still a no go with that new system? Thank you. :)
Too bad it seams you don't have the Panasonic Leica 12-60mm to compare it those lenses.
Great reviews always! Many thanks for your efforts. I do like to see the AF and low light performance using adapted EF lenses via speed booster. No review on this from anyone yet.
I don't own non-native lenses, sorry, mate. I think Caleb Hoover did a test on that from memory.
I wonder why the 12 mm (2016) is so "bad", while the two year earlier released 42.5 mm (2014) is fine. They both use stepper motors for focusing. Also the 17 mm is from 2014.
Your winter is our summer, stay warm. Great stuff, good to know. Thanks once again for the update and keeping us in the loop
It's been a really sunny winter here this year (so far). Glad the video was helpful, thank you :)
nice. i have the g9ii and pre-ordered the gh7 (mostly for still photography) because of the tilt-screen, express card, locking mode dial, and a lumix rep said the g9ii is not exactly the same; gh7 has more dynamic range.
I dont know what you do with your lumix 42mm 1.7. it was unusuable with my gh5 and it still is with my gh7 the lense refuses to focus at all if i am lets say on the far left side of the frame. It only works with very simple tasks and overal its very unrelieable if it comes to autofocus. I paid over 400 euros for this lense and its autofocus was too bad always even for fotos when i tried to use it with my gh5. For fotos it focuses slow and hesitant if i push the shutter button and in video its too unreliebale. I just keep it because no one wants to pay for this piece of garbage. I own lumix 1.7 25mm as well and its not sharp at 1.7. i have to stop down to at least 2.8 to make it acceptable sharp. Even the super cheap 12-35 3.5-56 is much much sharper wide open and the autofovcus is better as well. All those old lumix lenses need an update as the really are not good in 2024. . 12-60, 14-140 and leica 15mm 1.7 are good in my book but usually i just use the olympus pro 12-40 2.8. olympus lenses are much better than all those old lumix lenses in general.
For a second I couldn’t figure out why you were dressed in such warm clothing! Well done video! As someone else noted, it would be interesting to see results with some OM(Olympus) lenses as well. Too bad the Pan 15mm 1.7 doesn’t work as well…a nice lens!
I second your motion about Oly lenses!
I reckon the 15mm is now very good compared with Shane’s previous tests as long as the subject isn’t doing crazy movements!
Nice, did like
Can you test viltrox adaptor with canon lenses?
If I can get enough videos lined up I 100% want to get a GH7….
Nice Cam,but a gx10 with the same sensor is that what i need.
Which lens was used in intro and at the end of the video? The blur looks very creamy! Is it 42.5 f1.2?
Yep, it's the Panny 42.5 F1.2 Nocticron - It's pretty wild hey!
Yeah it's maybe the best prime lens Panasonic has made in terms of overall look and performance. Expensive when it came out but manages to give that full frame look without being overly soft like most lenses at that aperture. I wish Panasonic would also make a 20mm f/0.95 and it would really make m43 more appealing for people that feel they need shallow DOF.
Great to see the improvements with the 15mm! It is now most certainly usable. Do you have any Olympus lenses you can test?
The G9II is a great option. The size to performance ratio is optimal IMHO.
Agreed. The more I think about a GH7, the more I think the G9II is just fine. :)
@@GeekyNerdyTechy Well if you don’t buy the GH7 I’m sure there will be a S1… something around the corner to tempt you!
Been waiting for this!
Do you think panasonic has reached sony in terms of autofocus? Is it finally the time that people stop worshiping their sonys for their autofocus?
Also if the autofocus is fast you can always slow it down to make it look smoother(for video because for photography you want the opposite). Just a note for the fanboys that will come here and try to find something to argue that their sony is better😅
Sony's focus pull is great, but the LUMIX focus pull is faster in most scenarios. It will also track you further back in the frame with human detection on. Sony's dedicated eye tracking is very sticky up close but it can lose you furrther back. I find hte S5II and X to be better than my Sony's for talk to camera pieces. The problem is a lot of people don't understand the modes on the Panasonic cameras, but it's at a point now where it's better than people realise.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy isnt it possible to make it smoother when it pulls focus from the settings?
That Leica 12mm 1.4 was lifesaving!!!! I was gonna pre-buy one for the GH7 and you spared me until the Firmware gets updated! Great video!
Glad it helped. I used to own that lens back in the day. I find it also has too much Chroma for my liking. Something about that lens structure has always struggled with AF, not sure what it is.
Gracias por tu tiempo :)
How do ya know wich version 12-35 2.8 you have?Thank You
The lens number (found on the lens) is different.
Version I
H-HS12035
Version II
H-HSA12035
@@KirstenBayes Thank You
Second version!
The author talked about this in his video.
@@ВалентинАракчеев-б7д i prob better watch again. Thank You
@@DroseMr I was going to add there are very few other visible differences. I bought version II of the lens thinking it was version I, and neither I nor the shop spotted it until I came to update the firmware. Very happy discovery.
I just got my GH7 on the actual release date from B&H and I’m very disappointed with the PDAF. The focus is drifting and it seems no better than the GH6 so I’m sending it back.
Something sounds wrong with the lens potentially. There's no tricks in this video. It works great. I replied to your other comment with some tips.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy I’ve contacted Panasonic and they determined that something was wrong with the sensor and recommend a replacement camera especially suggesting that I use mode 2 and full area view which focus 95 percent better but I still get some drifting.
@@Sethmotley Make sure you have a tracking/subject detection mode on as well if it's not already.
@@GeekyNerdyTechy yes it on. Thanks.