If they're in working condition and have enough life left, the Canadian navy should consider buying them. Install cranes, landing craft, some bridging equipment, and they can use it for moving equipment around. Put everything in containers, and you can drive supplies on & off. When they're not needed for use, keep them in the great lakes to minimize rusting. Civilian crews can maintain them & run them for a few days a month to keep them working. They'd probably be useful if deploying the DART team too. If you need longer term accommodations for a security team or command staff, buy a couple RVs and fit a few containers as sleeping accommodations. There should be a cafeteria or something onboard, otherwise MREs for a week will keep everyone fed. It should be sufficient for landing equipment in a port or an uncontested beach for peacekeeping duties.
1) They are not blue water capable so the usages you suggest would be impossible. 2) the costs to convert them would be far in excess of what new, purpose built ships would cost and 3) the costs to maintain them when not deployed would be astronomical.
On the positive side of all this that nobody wants to talk about is that the fast cats trained thousands of welders and many of those welders were also trained to Weld aluminum which is in itself a huge feat. Many of those welders today are building ships for Washington Marine Group/ SEASPAN in North Vancouver because we already had the skilled workers in place. Thanks fast ferries
How many welders were trained. Divide that number into the cost of these ferries. What do you get? I SUSPECT each job cost several million dollars in training fees.
Still not as bad as paying almost $500 million for the whole project, no one ever buying more than the 3 ships that were produced, making them wasted designs, then selling them for $20 million total less than 5 years later. One of the three was never even used by BC Ferries. The NDP actually made videos at the time marketing how great of a project it would be for the economy, and they've now been uploaded to RUclips.
Well built? Really? Read this! 1) Aluminum, used in large ships like this, continuously cracks and needs welding. 2) The impeller propulsion system sucks water in at the front, runs it through giant pumps, and forces it out of the rear end of the ferry, producing propulsion. But wait! BC waters are notorious for having logs floating about the place and these logs were continually getting sucked into the pumps! 3) The 'fast' ferry loading ramps didn't match existing ramps build for standard ferries in Horseshoe Bay, Nanaimo, Tsawassen, and the other terminals. 4) While the standard ferries left on the hour and took about 1 hour 35 minutes to cross to Vancouver Island, allowing time to unload and then leave ON THE HOUR for the return trip, these 'fast' ferries crept the clock, resulting in ferries leaving at 7 am, 8:40 am, 10:10 am, 11:33 am, 12:55 pm, etc. This blew the concept of ferries on the hour, or in the winter, every second hour. Governments are such geniuses! Did BC voters learn from this? Which government is now running the province???
This *insert boondoggle of choice* is a mark of how incompetent the *insert party of choice* is. Nothing has changed. The *insert party of choice* still thinks that money grows on trees. You could say this of any of the political parties with any power, so there's little substance to your comment.
It would be cool to see the fast cat ferry’s up and running the Swartz bay to tawassen route as I’ve never been on one of these ferry’s they look so cool 😎
Aside from their wake issues, the problem with these ferries is certification: they're NOT certified as open ocean vessels, so that limited the sale and operations use. And the money that bought them did it not include extra NEW engines in the crates and other expensive parts? Those would be llong gone for "kash". Buyer probably got their money back just from that.
Video talking about how they haven't been touched in like 20 years with retro interior bits falling apart and then 0:56 shows a bunch of structural damage - 4 seconds later at the 1:00 mark - "They're still in really good condition - other than maybe a paint job" LOL
Listing them on Facebook Marketplace is a fitting end for this bad joke of a project. If they're not sold, they will be donated to The Salvation Army. 😂
Homeless shelters, instead of all the Victoria hotels that keep being given away or funded by our tax dollars.😑 We’ve already paid for these with our earlier tax dollars.
shows a totally blown apart roof section and moldy seats/carpet "just needs a paint job boys" haha they need like 20 million dollars of work each
If they're in working condition and have enough life left, the Canadian navy should consider buying them. Install cranes, landing craft, some bridging equipment, and they can use it for moving equipment around. Put everything in containers, and you can drive supplies on & off. When they're not needed for use, keep them in the great lakes to minimize rusting. Civilian crews can maintain them & run them for a few days a month to keep them working. They'd probably be useful if deploying the DART team too. If you need longer term accommodations for a security team or command staff, buy a couple RVs and fit a few containers as sleeping accommodations. There should be a cafeteria or something onboard, otherwise MREs for a week will keep everyone fed. It should be sufficient for landing equipment in a port or an uncontested beach for peacekeeping duties.
1) They are not blue water capable so the usages you suggest would be impossible.
2) the costs to convert them would be far in excess of what new, purpose built ships would cost and
3) the costs to maintain them when not deployed would be astronomical.
You smoke alot of weed when u wake up in the morning don't u ,I can tell from that comment
@@donkeyballs3307 says the person with name donkey balls 🤣😬……. wtf
Actually, it would be pretty cool to get one of those fairies and live on it👻
Except in a hurricane or monsoon or cyclone😅
That would be some canal boat
On the positive side of all this that nobody wants to talk about is that the fast cats trained thousands of welders and many of those welders were also trained to Weld aluminum which is in itself a huge feat. Many of those welders today are building ships for Washington Marine Group/ SEASPAN in North Vancouver because we already had the skilled workers in place. Thanks fast ferries
Chuck Norris can weld aluminium with his bare hands. That's right, the 2000's viral meme is back!
Wasn't worth the hundreds of millions the NDP spent on them. The videos the NDP filmed at the time are actually on RUclips as well.
How many welders were trained. Divide that number into the cost of these ferries. What do you get? I SUSPECT each job cost several million dollars in training fees.
Oof, buyer paid 10M each and is selling for 5M each, not to mention the fortune in mooring charges incurred over all these years
Still not as bad as paying almost $500 million for the whole project, no one ever buying more than the 3 ships that were produced, making them wasted designs, then selling them for $20 million total less than 5 years later. One of the three was never even used by BC Ferries. The NDP actually made videos at the time marketing how great of a project it would be for the economy, and they've now been uploaded to RUclips.
Homeless shelters?
These were well built ships. It became a political minefield.
Well built? Really? Read this! 1) Aluminum, used in large ships like this, continuously cracks and needs welding. 2) The impeller propulsion system sucks water in at the front, runs it through giant pumps, and forces it out of the rear end of the ferry, producing propulsion. But wait! BC waters are notorious for having logs floating about the place and these logs were continually getting sucked into the pumps! 3) The 'fast' ferry loading ramps didn't match existing ramps build for standard ferries in Horseshoe Bay, Nanaimo, Tsawassen, and the other terminals. 4) While the standard ferries left on the hour and took about 1 hour 35 minutes to cross to Vancouver Island, allowing time to unload and then leave ON THE HOUR for the return trip, these 'fast' ferries crept the clock, resulting in ferries leaving at 7 am, 8:40 am, 10:10 am, 11:33 am, 12:55 pm, etc. This blew the concept of ferries on the hour, or in the winter, every second hour. Governments are such geniuses! Did BC voters learn from this? Which government is now running the province???
Maybe they could be converted into barges to pick up ocean plastics at the plastic island?
where is a link to the listing?? I can't find it anywhere
These ferries are a mark of how incompetent the NDP is. Nothing has changed. The NDP still thinks that money grows on trees.
This *insert boondoggle of choice* is a mark of how incompetent the *insert party of choice* is. Nothing has changed. The *insert party of choice* still thinks that money grows on trees.
You could say this of any of the political parties with any power, so there's little substance to your comment.
And yet incompetent, ill-advised, short-memoried BC voters elected the NDP again! You just can't fix stupid.
It would be cool to see the fast cat ferry’s up and running the Swartz bay to tawassen route as I’ve never been on one of these ferry’s they look so cool 😎
Aside from their wake issues, the problem with these ferries is certification: they're NOT certified as open ocean vessels, so that limited the sale and operations use. And the money that bought them did it not include extra NEW engines in the crates and other expensive parts? Those would be llong gone for "kash". Buyer probably got their money back just from that.
Seaspan had a plan to operate them between Duke Point and Downtown Vancouver at one point which fell through
Homeless shelter. Much cheaper than building a shelter.
"Basic home on the west side" about says it all
Add on marketplace has them listed for 15 million USD each.
Didn't say where they are. If they're in the Middle East, anything copper or valuable has probably long gone.
They're worth more as scrap metal.
Turn them into floating housing lmao
Video talking about how they haven't been touched in like 20 years with retro interior bits falling apart and then 0:56 shows a bunch of structural damage - 4 seconds later at the 1:00 mark - "They're still in really good condition - other than maybe a paint job" LOL
and people wonder how did China get so far ahead. Sigh.
They'll propably end up as processing boats in Alaska.
The old wooden ships lived for 30 to 50 years even after salvaging some of them
Make homes for homeless
BC Ferries should buy them back!
Another great ndp legacy
Well, BC voters STILL elected the NDP. What? Short memories? Sheer ignorance? Ill-informed? WHAT!
Why don't they make apts and house the homeless on the waterfront?
turn them into housing
Listing them on Facebook Marketplace is a fitting end for this bad joke of a project.
If they're not sold, they will be donated to The Salvation Army. 😂
Make them homes for the homeless in Vancouver , Surrey and Victoria
Artificial reefs
The bridges are smashed
Never meant to be rafted up.
Probably less expensive to just buy one of these than pay those fares hooooooooooooly
wow i had forgotten about those ferries
The fastcats israel?
Homeless shelters, instead of all the Victoria hotels that keep being given away or funded by our tax dollars.😑 We’ve already paid for these with our earlier tax dollars.
BC ferries suck
OMG😂😂😂
so was this the socred's idiocy or the liberals with gordo drunko campbell?
I think it was Glen Clarke's NDP government that was responsible for this fiasco.
So what
They should list the socialist NDP government. For 2 bucks.
Bahahahah. THANK YOU NDP. for the hilarious laugh.