True protestants keep the Bible sabbath as stated in the 4th commandment, we don't keep the Ten Commandments to be saved, we keep the Ten Commandments because Jesus said if you love me KEEP my commandments" the sabbath is a blessing not a burden.
@@TheDonald2024 Yes, salvation is by faith and by God's grace, but faith and works must go together, because salvation is by faith but blessings are by obedience. All the commandments carry a blessing when are kept. And a curse when they are broken. The Holy Spirit gives us the want and the power to obey God's commandments (whatever applies to us,).
I find it funny that you Sunday keepers are not ok with the one commandment God said to “ Remember “ but you are ok with all other 9 commandments 😆 God said if you ignore one you ignore all.. Sunday is not and will NEVER be the lords day
if you continue to say that Gods 10 commandments are slavery then you will not enjoy judgement day.. repent. Matthew 5:19 So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Two things. Where does it say the feasts are Jewish Feasts? God says, these are His Feasts. Also, Isaiah 2:2-3 speaks of the Torah being taught to the nations in the end days. How if the Torah is so called no longer applicable?
If you love Me, you will keep my commandments. John14:15 He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him. John 14:21 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love. John15:10 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him. 1 John 2:3-5 How could it be any more clear?
The Ten Commandments were written on stone with the finger of Jesus, the laws of Moses were outside of the ark written on paper. the 10 commandments still stand
Do you not recall Korah challenging Moses. Moses said none of what I say comes from my own head. God confirmed that with Aaron and Miriam and said that he spoke plainly to Moses. Moses simply documented Gods word to his people.... All of it was God's instructions for living!!!
Yahweh revelation of the 4 commandment to honor. The feasts of Yahweh no the pagan ones. His Hebrew Names. Pray to Yahweh for the real true. Yahweh will talk to your ❤ and teach you his Torah. Pray asking the true.
@@thedowntoearthchristian We learned in Bible college that whenever the scriptures have the capital LORD, it is a replacement for יהוה (or Yod Hey Vav Hey, which many put as YHWH, or YHVH - or just Yah - what do you think HalleluYah means? It means, Praise to YAH. - it even says that in the footnotes of any KJV Bible). The reason the person above said that is simply to differentiate which God you are addressing. “God” is just a title, not His Name. That’s all she meant….
Who are we gonna follow? Jesus the One who wrote the ten commandments with his finger on stone to signify its permanence, or a solar off grid guy who thinks sunday the 1st day of the week is the lords day lol me and my household will follow Jesus.
A crafty teacher using calm words and baiting many to comment with us all knowing you are about to use your own prowess to keep many from the truth. Your responses to some of the comments show clearly your sly intentions alongside discernment. I would implore you to reconsider for teachers are judged more upon the basis of the waves their ripples may cause. Doctrines for itching ears with many twisting Paul to their own and others destruction... Those that Christ shall tell to depart for they be workers of lawlessness. It is of these things that the movements are warning people of - they are saving many from the hypocrisy of the standard somewhat bible derived faiths... We either stand on the word as our firm foundation or we stand on man's.... The standard faiths stand on mans word and holds it above gods. The movements are at times a step towards the truth but the way of christ and the disciples is often still muddled. These movements about repenting properly and humbling oneself to God and his word rather than seeking vain happiness and feelings and finding oeople thwt will agree with your excusee not to heed the word of god and his words to his chosen people on how he wants them to live... If god doesnt change why would you think he changed how he wanted his chosen people to live from rulings of many fscets of life from diet onwards to do whatever you like and folloeing the desires of tour ever deceitful heart? Christ was our example. We either follow that example or we shouldnt bother.
Don't forget Matthew 18:6 "But whoever causes one of these little ones to sin, it would be better to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be thrown into the depths of the sea." The little ones meaning those reaching for the truth. Teachers have a greater judgement weight bear for pushing the little ones away from the truth. We follow THE WORDS IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE. We don't cherry pick. We weigh the words through research. Why do we do that? Because we have been called out by YHWH to set things straight using His own two edge sword of truth. Which is the WHOLE SCRIPTURE! Bless you brothers and sisters for coming to battle against the lies of false religion.
Jesus kept the sabbath and so sis apostle Paul and his disciples even after he ascended back to heaven, the sabbath was made man ( all humanity ) not man ( Jews ) for the sabbath.. we don’t keep the sabbath to be saved, we keep all Ten Commandments because Jesus said if you love me KEEP my commandments… Sunday is for Catholic pagans
You don’t hate the commandments you only hate the 4th commandment which identifies the creator of the universe.. You can’t call yourself a Protestant if you keep Sunday a day that the Catholic Church made the “ lords day “ lol this is why I’m so proud to be SDA, Gods only true church.
If Jesus Christ would broken any commandment or incite anybody to break any commandments, he would have commit sin, therefore He would not be able to be Messiah. But thank God He not only keep all God's commandments but also brought them to their highest level, the Spirit level of the law. He said: "...you heard, but I say to you...." He gave the right meaning to the commandments, and his fence is much more higher than in the old testament: before Jesus Christ people had to be caught "in-fraganti" comiting sin, but now Jesus Christ say ...if you look tona woman with lust, you sinned. Why is Jesus Christ more demanding than Moses? Because now we are in the new covenant, we are saved by faith (as always was..) and the new covenant not only includes the law of God but also... Christ (Messiah), the blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit. Old testament people hadn't such a powerful aid, and God didn't forgive them when they sinned willingly and didn't want to repent, because without repentance there is no forgiveness. If God didn't make an exception with his people Israel, hiw in the world we think that God will make an exception with us, who have been grafted in Israel? He won't do an exception, we are only branches. "[26] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, [27] but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. [28] He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: [29] of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? [30] For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. [31] It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Hebrews 10:26-31. We must take things seriously, and start to live really holy lives, that is according to God's will. We must read carefully and verify everything we believe. Jesus Christ will return soon and he personally will judge everyone of us by His words, not by that charismatic leader or pastor, but but his words. [47] And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. [48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. " John.12.47-48.KJV Blessings!
The Law of Moses is no longer binding on mankind. Unless you want to put yourself under it then you must keep it ALL. Thankfully, thought Jesus in our High Priest and not the decedents of Aaron. Why? because the Law changed.
@@thedowntoearthchristianThe verse that you are semi-quoting is about salvation. If one thinks they can be SAVED by keeping His Instructions, they must be kept without fail. That’s totally different than SANCTIFICATION which is simply, now that you have been redeemed, how then shall we live? Answer: According to His perfect will, which of course are laid out in His Word - His Perfect Law which needs no improvement. He specifically gave us His Holy Spirit to help us do that. Just because we may stumble doesn’t mean you give up! If we can do “all things” through Christ which strengthens us, why would it mean everything in the whole world EXCEPT to walk in His ways? 😅
Thank you @luisea930 for not only getting it right but also rightly dividing the word (2 Timothy 2:15).The Law does apply even onto the end as Yeshua has pronounced in Matthew 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’ shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me you have practice lawlessness!’ - That still means that the Law is applicable in the Day of Judgement. The Apostle Paul stated this in 1 Corinthians 12:3 “Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God call Yeshua accursed, and no one can say that Yeshua is Adonai except by the Holy Spirit”. The Lord is literally speaking about “believers” those who have an outer appearance of righteousness but inside still do not believe in Him. They are those who are coming into judgement. And that is something that is not only eminent but also prophetic. There will be many. And they’re are those who’ve produced lawlessness.
Think of it this way from a practical standpoint: when you get pulled over by a cop and he wants to take you out of your car and says, put your hands behind your back, you would want to ask the guy, what law have I broken? He would have to give you a reason why. And then for someone else to come along and bail you out. That someone has been incredibly gracious and kind to you. And then to put things forward, another person gets into a similar bind and you decide NOT to help out that person but instead walk right past him, you have done no good. For there was a sincere chance to help that person. But better is the person who not only saved them from perdition but also helps teach them. For in that, both have been partakers of the law and grace that were given to them and they are considered wise, fruitful and faithful servants.
This is just a very practical observation in general that could be applied to anything. Where there are laws, there is structure. And where there is structure, instruction would take place. We see this everyday, whether you’re going through driver license manual, you’re going to see what they laws are and then get instructions on how to operate a motor vehicle and ride on the road. It exists in music...we called that styles. In physics, we call it, the law of physics. There’s a particular design and order of how things operate. The Bible is ours and it validates itself. My challenge to you is to dig deep and start to understand the meaning of it and how it applies. For right now, in our day and age, we are starting to see a fulfillment in scripture of Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38 & 39. We’re definitely are on the precipice right now...and yes, it is based upon His commandments. A person can easily flip on tv and see that we’re nearly there. So comes my question for you: are you trying to prompt a discussion about it or are you trying to disprove the commandments don’t apply? And if think the latter, I would highly suggest putting in a sincere amount of research into it before speaking. That way you would not lose time or any resources for that matter. For it is better to listen first than to speak.
Christ is my example, he kept all Ten Commandments and I will keep all Ten Commandments.. they stand fast and forever. You can continue to ignore his Sabbath day and call made made catholic sunday the lords day.
You just broke #9. Nobody but Jesus ever kept the LAW. Nobody can. If we say we have no sin we lie and the truth is not in us. If we could keep the law, why did Jesus have to die?
@@ebt777 Many people keep the law. Keeping the law means that you obey it and if you fail to do so, you repent and commit to obeying it again. That is mercy and was established from the beginning ....
Gods church in the last days is not a sunday keeping church. Revelation 14:12 “ Here is the patience of the saints, here are they who KEEP the commandments of God and have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ “. The only church who fits this description is the Seventh day Adventist church
Salvation is by faith (and always has been by faith and by grace: Hebrews 11). We are forgiven by the sole grace of God and the blood of Jesus Christ not only cleanses us of every sin but also grafts us in his people Israel (Ephesians 2, Romans 11). Jesus Christ taught us to obey all the law that applies to us (Matthew 5:17-19) and that if we start to obey other laws than the law of Moses we will not enter in the kingdom of heaven (the Pharisees obeyed the "Talmud" instead the law of God, the Talmud was created by men, so they trust in their own justice, and not in God). There is no justice in obeying men instead of God, only the law of God defines righteousness. We obey the law to avoid sin (1 John 3:4), and to be blessed by God (Deuteronomy 28) and to bring the kingdom to our home, to our city and to our country (because by the Spirit we receive the want and the ability to obey God). The new covenant, is a renewal of the old covenant but with new powerful additions (Jeremiah 31:31-34, Matthew 26:28, Hebrews 8:8-13) we have Messiah Jesus Christ, his Blood and the Spirit of Grace/Holy Spirit (Hebrews 10:28-31). If we despise the commandments of God we won't be able to be holy, because we won't have the moral rule, and we won't be able to discern between the good and the evil, we will live in anarchy (Matthew 7:23: doers of iniquity = doers of anarchy from the Greek word ANOMIA: people who do whatever they want instead of obeying what God commanded them to do). The enemy has deceived us making us think that the law is a curse, but in reality it's totally the contrary: we are blessed by obeying the "Father's will", the written will he gave us in His word. Salvation is by faith, but blessing is by obedience. Faith without works is dead faith, and that kind of faith won't save anybody. (Matthew 7:21-28). Blessings!
I'm not correcting you, I'm just saying. Saved by grace, through faith...not saved by faith, through grace. When you think about it, first we put our faith in Jesus and by that we receive the Holy Spirit. It is the power of the Holy Spirit working in our lives that encourages/enables us to keep all of Gods Torah. When we fail, we are forgiven our sin by the Blood of Jesus Christ. Remember what Jesus said Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. We are saved by Grace, James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Peace
Keeping the sabbath was never done away with it’s one of the Ten Commandments, what was nailed to the cross were ceremonial laws and feasts.. the sabbath was established at creation
The reason people are starting to obey the commandments of Yahuah is because that's how we show that we love him and Christianity honour him with their lips but not with their hearts. You don't love Yah the way you want to , he tells us how to love him. Deuteronomy 30 , jubilees 23 and 1 Enoch 1 all speak of a righteous generation in the latter days. That's what you are seeing happen. Most of the commandments don't apply to us and it's only a small number that Christians don't do but they do their pagan versions of them. How does that make sense? You have a problem with Yahuah's appointed times but the Babylonian ones that were integrated into Catholicism people make a big deal of. Christians start by finding religion and then learning scripture through their lens. If you started in Genesis and didn't have any outside influence everyone would be 1 group and walking 1 way just as instructed. John 14 where Yahusha speaks of sending us the Spirit of Truth he has a requirement and Christians don't do it as it was nailed to the cross or some nonsense. You don't have the Holy Spirit so you don't think that the instructions of your Father in heaven are important. Try it and see for yourself, you'll be back here teaching the truth if you did. I know you are not intentionally deceiving people but you are doing it all the same. I'm not Hebrew roots or sacred namers although I do use the proper name for our Father as that's the name that was given as an answer when I was seeking it. Proverbs 30:4 Says Father and Son too , revelation 14:12 says Satan is at war with who? If you ain't keeping the commandments of Yahuah which you learn in the OT and the testimony of Yahusha which is in the NT you are on satan's side. The Jews reject the Son and Christians reject the commandments. Can you see the problem that they will have? I thought you were pretty respectful in the video and didn't think you were trying to bash the people that love God and keep his commandments or walk just as his Son told us too. Was surprised by your comments though. I'd read the ascension of Isaiah it should have been canon but as with any book that tells of the lawless people in the end times it wasn't included. Chapter 3 is the body of believers today and chapter 4 is who they worship. Only 1 persons writings give him his credibility and billions of people follow religions based solely on that persons writings. We're not in the renewed or new covenant yet that's a future event read Ezekiel 36 it happens after we are regathered. Even in Hebrews it's a future event. Wise virgins = Proverbs 6:23 and Song of Solomon 1-3 . Virgins, oil, lamp, light all explained. The fruit we should bear = Psalms 1. You are experiencing the fig tree sprouting forth leaves which is the people waking up to the truth. It's be nice to have more people doing it rather than being taught It's not biblical. It's biblical and it's "The Way" the only way. So do some research brother I know you want to teach people the truth.
all those who claim to obey the commandments of Yahuah - CAN'T. You lost me right after you vomited what you false teachers teach "Most of the commandments don't apply to us and it's only a small number that Christians don't do but they do their pagan versions of them" God never said 'do the ones that apply' and who decides which ones appy? You? Also Torah Keepers cant keep the laws as God commanded. Every time they claim to keep the Feasts they Lie. You can't keep the feasts as God Commanded, where do you take your offerings? So those claiming to keep the Feasts at best keep them as a tradition of man, worse you are sending up Strange Fire.
@@salpezzino7803 ah one of satan's minions saying we can't keep the commandments or do the feasts. Are you a priest/king/farmer/woman etc all commandments for roles that we don't all fit. Nobody is sacrificing animals, and how do you worship him? Do you need a temple to pray to him? He doesn't listen to sinners so it doesn't matter anyway but he's not confined to a building. Yahuahs feast are His and they're commanded to be kept. You should read the Torah you'll be surprised to learn it's not hard to keep. But best listen to your lawless pastor or whoever and say nobody can keep them that we are liars and Yahuah is a tyrant giving people commandments they wouldn't be able to keep. Seriously did you read your bible?
@@EIonMusk1 do you keep the Commanded feasts as God Commanded? No you don't you keep them as man made doctrine. I can't call you an Apostate because you were NEVER one of His
@salpezzino we true Protestants keep the 10 commandments written in stone by the finger of Jesus.. the feasts were part of the law of Moses written on parchment paper.. do better
Guys check RL Solberg, he deals with HRM or Torahists really. If you have questions regarding this movement, check him out and get a better understanding in what is is
Then watch Steve Moutria from Torah Family give His rebuttal given directly from scripture. Mr. Solberg erroneously quotes scholars, church fathers, and cherry picked verses which the church has based entire theologies on.
Mr Solberg is very motivated by his own observations. He has admitted in a reply to me that his perspective does not represent all of Torah observant communities. He has seen families divided and that is his motivation. All that to say, he does not give a full perspective and he admits that. I will watch him at times because he does challenge me to understand my own beliefs, but he does not represent torah observance accurately, only from his perspective.
@@mattclevenger8598 Solgerg's problem is he teaches Christians are no longer under the 10 commandments. This just feeds the Satanic Cult the Hebrew/Jewish roots, because they claim he is an Antinomian. which he is, However, these same Cultists believe that antinomianism is the rejection of the law of Moses, which it isnt
I have seen him in debates with Tora observers and he is unable to stand against the scripture that speaks against his evaluation of not keeping the Tora
That was a much better representation of Hebrew Roots than in your other video about teachings to run away from. Thank you for that. We also are called Whole Bible believers doing Bible things in Bible ways, in the first century we would have been followers of The Way. A few things I’m not sure you fully understand. The Sabbath and the Feasts of the Lord were established on the 4th day of creation, before any people were created. When He placed the sun moon and stars in the sky they were to let His people know when His appointed times were to be held in Hebrew they are called the Moedim. Since people were created on the 6th day, these special days on The Fathers calendar are for ALL people to meet with Him. Therefore they are not “Jewish” Feast Days, but they are days God set apart to be special for His people to meet with Him. So these Days are special to The Father, they are extremely prophetic and let us know where we are on His timeline. The 1st 4 Feasts, Passover, Christ was the Passover Lamb, Unleavened Bread, when Christ was in the earth for 3 days and nights, and Firstfruits when Christ was raised from the dead were fulfilled by His 1st coming. Then Pentecost, which by the way was the day that Moses received the written instructions from God, now are written on our heart when He sent His Holy Spirit. So we keep these Feast in remembrance of what He did for us. The next 3 Feasts, which are the fall feasts will be fulfilled by His second coming. He returns with the sound of a loud trumpet, which is Feast of Trumpets, then there will be Judgement day on Feast of Atonement and then the largest Wedding Feast ever during the Feast of Sukkot or Tabernacles. Even in earthly terms we have rehearsals for weddings, so wouldn’t you want to be prepared for the biggest Wedding Day? So we keep the Feasts as rememberance and rehearsal for the Feasts not yet fulfilled. Our focus is to follow and do what Christ did, it is only by His blood that we are saved. If when the Law was written down, we were told to walk in it (Deuteronomy 10:11-13), fully knowing that Christ walked that same law, and John said we are to walk exactly like He walked (1 John 2:5-6), while Paul said we are to also follow Christs example (1 Cor 11:1), then would we not follow the same commandments that Christ walked?
@@thedowntoearthchristian The point seems to me that it is not whether anyone now keeps or ever has kept God's laws, the point is that God said to keep them once He established them for both the Israelite and the stranger among them. I wonder why Christianity is so adamant about observing Easter and Christmas when it is historically documented that they are not Biblical. Jesus was the Passover Lamb and that had nothing to do with Easter. Paul kept the Passover, Peter ate Kosher, John said that sin was the transgression of the law. If the Old Testament Law was abrogated, then it is the responsibility of the Church to prove it. With respect, I've never seen anything that has held up under scrutiny to make that case, but rather hear a lot of misunderstanding and conjecture. You would have to contradict scriptures in the New Testament to make that case. Jesus' words should be the final statement on this issue, for no one, not even Paul has the authority to override Jesus or God. That would prove them to be a false teacher. Blessings.
@@thedowntoearthchristian Wow, that was your take away from my comment? Gen 4:3-5 Cain and Abel, sacrifice system was established that they knew about. Gen 7:2 Noah (not Jewish) knew which animals were clean (or meant for food) because he was to bring 7 of each of them onto the ark, and 2 of the unclean animals, so there was knowledge of which animals were created to eat. Gen 17:9 Abraham (not Jewish) covenant of circumcision. I want to make it clear that I have nothing against our Jewish brothers, but there is this strange notion that everyone in the OT was Jewish or from the Tribe of Judah and that the OT was only about them, and that they are the only ones that were given the instructions of God. The fact is that there were all 12 Tribes at the bottom of Mt. Sinai along with sojourners and others that wanted to follow God, and there was one law given to everyone. How would it work in your house if all your children were given a separate set of instructions? The main reason that our Jewish brothers do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah, is the Christians telling them that the law is done away with. So if Christ is the Word made flesh, and Christ is the Word of God (John 1:14, Rev 19:13) and supposedly some of the Word of God is abolished, did He get on the cross to abolish parts of Himself? Gen 22:8 Abraham tested with the sacrifice of his son, and God providing a lamb (Passover Lamb?) Gen 26:5 Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws. So clearly there were instructions and laws BEFORE the written law was given on Mt. Sinai. I don't understand your rebellion of not keeping the Sabbath on the 7th day, can man change the Word of God, can we do what is right in our own sight? Ex 12:1 Passover kept before Mt. Sinai, Ex 12:17 Feast of Unleavened Bread kept before Mt. Sinai. Just because He established the appointed times on the 4th day of creation whether He chose to implement them before or after the giving of the Commandments at Mt Sinai, does not negate the fact that the purpose of them was to be a sign to HIs people of His special days. The Bible is a beautiful love story of a Bridegroom who dies on the cross to redeem His bride. When Scripture states in the NT that we are to keep God's commandments in our love back to Him (1John5:2-3) as a response to His grace or love for us (1John 4:19), how can we conclude that we are to keep only some of God's commandments? Are commandments in Leviticus 23 or Leviticus 11 God's commandments or not?
Look at Exodus 16:15- 36. Here the Law was not given but the Shabbat was there! Look also at Joseph in Potiphar's house when he said how can I sin against Yahweh. He knew adultery as sin.
I'm a Christian and do go to q messianic church. Although at my church we do teach that we are grafted into the tree we do not teach that every man needs has to be circumcised. The heart is what matters now. We follow the old and new Testament . We believe in the father, the son , and the holy ghost. We also believe in baptism and that Jesus has come and will return again. Some are Jewish and some are not. If you have any questions I can try to answer them.
Shalom, and glad to hear about the circumcision part, since that has to do with land rights in Israel from Abraham; which allows Jews the right to return to the promised land. It's not necessary for the body of Christ, as some have claimed. Blessings be upon you!
The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, If a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days. As at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean. And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. (Lev 12:1-3) Where does it say the Law changed? I thought you all taught not one Jot or Tittle would fall from the Law.
@@thedowntoearthchristian Unfortunately, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Nor critical thinking skills nor logic. Once someone's mind has become mush, it takes a miracle to heal someone's mind of a public education. The book of Galatians is clearly talking about adult circumcision for proselytes, not about infants. Titus was an adult, and not an infant. Converts were required to be circumcised based on oral law from the Pharisees, and nothing to do with the Law of Moses. Nothing! But people's minds in the latter days is like mush, they can't critically think since they're under the end-time delusion. The scripture you pointed out is for an infant at 8 days of age, there was no command of the Law of Moses for adults, which is why Pharisees added to it. But because people's minds are mush, they can't understand basic biblical concepts. Because Jews still circumcise on the 8th day, they were allowed the legal right to return to Israel. If they had listened to the Roman Catholic priests and now Protestants, they would be a people without a land, and Satan would have been victorious!
Circumcision was so important to God the Father that he was going to kill Moses over it because Moses did not have his son Circumcised. Then Moses' wife had to do it. Moses' son was believed to be about 30 yeaold at the time.
two sacred institutions were established at creation: The 7th day sabbath ( Saturday ) and marriage.. anyone who says the sabbath is irrelevant has no light in him.. Jesus kept the sabbath it is a blessing not a burden. sunday is a burden because its not the lords day and its a pagan catholic day
They also kept the Lord’s day which was Sunday because it was the beginning of the week and it was the new covenant. Why do you think that Paul addresses this so directly in Romans? “One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.” Romans 14:5 KJV You’re in a cult and cults are all based on ego and pride, a desire to be set ABOVE others. Over 90% of new converts to Judaism being reported by rabbis are HR movement CULT… think about that. Satan has a trap for every person 🧀 🐭
He was "quoting" from the Torah. Moreover, He was also describing the Torah itself, as all of the Law and the Prophets hang on those two Commandments. In turn, that means that the Torah defines love. Matthew 22:35-40 LITV And one of them, a lawyer, questioned Him, testing Him, and saying, Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law? And Jesus said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind." *[Deut. 6:5]* This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." *[Lev. **19:18**]* On these two commandments all the Law and the Prophets hang. Deuteronomy 6:5 NKJV You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. Leviticus 19:18 NKJV You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD. Shalom
@thedowntoearthchristian easy. Why would the devil want us obeying the whole of scripture? Why would he want us to obey Father's commands and follow His Son who kept them and taught how we should walk in them? You may want to consider where your objections to Father's ways come from.
@@thedowntoearthchristian It comes straight from your Bible. Refresh your reading of several passages, including Ezekiel 11 and Ezekiel 18 (the repentance chapter), Jeremiah 23, 31, and 32, all of Hosea (Hosea is about YOU & ME!), Psalm 19 (a glorious Psalm) Psalm 119, oh my! Etc etc etc…..it’s all over the place! Paul spoke of it continually as he taught the new believers……. Hey, just start from Genesis and end in Revelation! Don’t listen to commentators - just ask the Holy Spirit to show you the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing BUT the Truth, please help me God! That’s what I did about 10 years ago and He sure did! Just be brave and willing to trust and obey, for there is no other way to be happy in Yeshua!
Browsing the comments it seems that people focus on the extreme isolated outliers. How about we do that when judging Christianity? Hmmm. Affairs, all kinds of sexual sin, its own "cults". See my point? That kind exageration makes the movement easy to dismiss. All you have to do is ask a Christian why they choose to disobey the sabbath, and what the definition of sin is. The conclusions we are coming to is because we've been lied to. Plain and simple. Not always necessarily out of malice, but modern christianity is sorely mistaken about numerous topics. Were just cutting off this game of telephone and going back to our saviors faith.
@salpezzino7803 The only one I mentioned is the one in scripture. I know this is confusing since we were all taught there's like 5 different Israel's. Welcome to spiritual warfare, God is not the author of confusion. God made a people unto Himself. Not a piece if land, not a political union, certainly not a pagan oriented cultural Israel, and He brought no one back in 1948, Ezekiel 37 is not fulfilled. Isreal was never anything else than His people. All the promises are to them. If you are covenanted with Him, you are true Israel and as it is described in the prophets, Jesus is going to bring back all 12 tribes of the diaspora. The event will be so great, it is said in the prophets that no one will speak of the Exodus under Moses anymore. There are a lot of amazing things to our faith walk that yall are missing.
The most heartbreaking thing I have witnessed in my entire life is the people I know that got wrapped up in the HRM/Torah observant religion. After 3-4years they now completely reject Jesus/Yeshua and the ENTIRE New Testament. They believe that to come to Jesus for salvation is idolatry. They also teach that ALL contained within the New Testament is a complete fabrication from Rome. Absolutely grieves my heart. 😥😥 Their group keeps growing in #. I keep praying for them and try to keep trusting that God has a plan.
There are some great teachers out there (119 ministries, Messiah Matters) but you have to consider there are less solid teachers overall as Torah-observances is smallish (right now). We don't have the benefit of the wealth, infrastructure of 2000 years of traditions of men.....we DO have the bible and we are extremely reliant on the bible.
@@helenagreenpine1496 there are many Torah observant Christians though I do not always agree with them on many matters, I consider them my brothers and sisters. I would consider “smallish” to be inaccurate. There have been Torah-Observant movements within the church from the very beginning. 119 ministries teaching the same false doctrines and misapplying scripture just as the foolish Galatians.
I'm concerned about your comment of, "they now completely reject Jesus" since this is a complete lie, or maybe you simply misunderstand the truth of the matter. Since the name "Jesus" is a misrepresentation, which did not occur until the mid 1500's, of our Messiah we return to the truth of the Word in Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek. We study the languages and we use the languages. In the original reference to the actual name which possessed only 4 letters, yod, shin, wuw, and ayin. This would be pronounced YSHWA. Other people pronounce it Yeshua. The bottom line is we have returned to THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE because He is our redeemer, our model and our salvation and through Him we are saved. Now, as for your second false claim that we ignore the New Testament we adhere to the Renewal of ALL the covenants which were first established by YHWH, our Creator, beginning the Garden of Eden with observing the Shabbat. The problem is nobody knows the scriptures anymore because worldly people dismiss and ignore it. We do not. We live by every utterance of YHWH. So please check your facts before throwing out poisonous darts of slander regarding something you clearly know nothing about. Thank you and may Yah bring knowledge to you.
@@shannhanson489 No, I didn’t misunderstand and I’m not slandering anyone. Only mentioning a personal experience. The specific people that I am referring to are people I know personally and they have been VERY clear stating what they believe. They reject Yeshua. They reject Messiah all together and claim you cannot be a true follower of Torah if you believe in a messiah. They also claim the entire New Testament is a fabrication written by Josephus and a prominent Roman family.
(@Lookinup24-7) What you're describing (rejecting Jesus/Yeshua) is not an accurate representation of the Hebrew Roots Movement. Now, mind you, I'm not saying it never happened, but it would have came from the "outer fringes". And, as for your comments concerning 119 Ministries: Would you please provide some examples of their supposed "false doctrines"? As well as how they "misapplying scripture just as the foolish Galatians"?
When Paul was chased out of Ephesus for teaching faith only and to ignore the instructions(law)of God(why would God care so much about obedience enough to send His own son to die if He didn't care about obedience? He sent the eternal sacrifice but not the eternal ignore everything I have set up until now...) he went to the Bishop of Jerusalem which was Jesus' brother James. Simon the Zealot was there ready to stone Paul, but instead there was a hearing held bc of what Paul had been saying to the gentiles(let's not forget that Christ said Peter would be the apostle to the gentiles). In Acts 21:24-26 Peter and James told Paul he had needed to set the record straight and tell them that he(paul) obeyed the law(Acts 21:24) instead of the rumor that he'd been saying that the law didn't matter AND what they should be teaching was that they should not have idols, eat meat with blood, not eat strangled meat, not have sexual immorality(Acts 21:25-26) and then after that James goes on to say how important it is for them to go on the Sabbath in their own towns and learn God's law. I have recently had a lot of questions about Paul and his authority and the fact that he never met Christ. Modern Christians are Pauline believers. Most will loose their minds and call you a heretic for asking questions about Paul and they put the words of Paul on a pedestal over Christ's without knowing it.I don't believe God will call me to account for ignoring Paul but I do believe He will call me to account for placing Paul's words above the very clear instructions of Christ. I thought this video was a very fair overview of HRM( I don't subscribe to that, but I do have serious questions about Paul and do think obeying the law(which includes the Sabbath) is crucial to understanding the heart of God and that faith without works(observance of God's law bc that is how God says we show Him love and it is also what Christ said) is dead faith. Works don't save but they are evidence of being saved through Christ. While there are a lot of deep deep differences between the different groups I thought you presented them with dignity in the same way you would if you were describing Judaism. I think it's really good when we ask questions. Iron sharpens iron. I do think, to my surprise, I was shocked at how much I did not know Paul's actual story, the conflicts they present to Christ and to God's word. When 2 Timothy says all scripture is inspired by God he is speaking of Torah only bc that was the only scripture that existed at the time. They would have never(not even Paul with his giant ego) would have considered his letters scripture. The Bereans were charged with fact checking and when we follow that scriptural standard that was set Paul doesn't make the cut. Honestly, people are more willing to overlook what Christ actually said than they are to criticize Paul. The Lord says we are to know His word and each will be held to account for it. The Way is narrow. Paul's way is really wide. Jesus said it's really narrow. Even if you decided to just set down the OT for a few minutes and read the red letter words of Christ only, pray and then filter it through what God actually says without Paul's influence(just run a what if scenario and see if the Holy Spirit leads you anywhere) then it's hard to unsee some stuff about Paul. I have found that the channel Jesus' Words Only has been a great resource for understanding some of these concepts better. It hasn't weakened my faith at all to ask these questions. Jesus said to his actually disciples(Paul wouldn't come on scene until 10 years after the resurrection) was to be alert and not be deceived for false teachers coming in his name, casting out demons, etc... He was warning them bc it was going to happen in their lifetime. Either Paul is your authority or Christ is. If all your arguments of HRM comes from Paul's mouth then maybe just question that and read more of Christ before completely shutting down the idea. A lot is riding on it and I believe you truly want to know God's truth and heart and desire to serve Him no matter what. I'm not willing to bank my eternal security on Paul especially when he contradicts his own conversion 4 different times in his own letters. Only the originals who met, walked with and were taught by Christ and were witnesses to His miracles. There's a reason why witnesses were so important to God and to the miracles of Christ. Funny thing all of those who knew Christ went to their deaths still confronting Paul about predestination and faith only. They never agreed. Love in Christ!
There's an interesting, supernatural, phenomenon I've noticed in my faith walk. When Jesus says things like eyes to see, and ears to hear....the only people that have the veil lifted, is people whose hearts truly SEEK HIM. Pray: Lord, I want YOUR truth, no matter what it looks like, even if it's different from what I think, different from what I've been taught, show me YOUR truth. Amen. If you sincerely pray that, and are willing to change your life, HE WILL SHOW YOU. It's amazing!
When Jesus walked on the earth, teaching His disciples the purity of the faith... after He died, rose again, and ascended.... what did the First Century church look like? How did His disciples live? What did they believe? How did they practice their faith? There is a time in history before men in power had a chance to force change in the lives of Jesus's followers. Look at history and see how believers lived their faith in the first century compared to now.
Jesus is the tree. Faith is how you get grafted on. The tree is a Hebraic tree (not a pagan Roman tree or a tree of a new religion) because Jesus was Jewish. It's not a whole new tree....Jesus did not start a new religion, he was the anticipated Jewish Messiah of the Jewish prophets.
*The tree in Romans 11 is Israel!* _Jeremiah 11:16-17 NIV The LORD called you _*_[Israel and Judah]_*_ a thriving olive tree with fruit beautiful in form. But with the roar of a mighty storm he will set it on fire, and its branches will be broken. (17) The LORD Almighty, who planted you, has decreed disaster for you, because the people of both _*_Israel and Judah_*_ have done evil and aroused my anger by burning incense to Baal._ 👉The LORD called you a thriving olive tree👈 Romans 11:24 NASB For if you *[Gentiles]* were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree *[Israel and Judah]* , how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? 👉their own olive tree👈 Also, let's not forget Ephesians 2! Ephesians 2:11-13/19 NKJV Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh-who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands- (12) that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. (13) But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. (19) Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 👉at that time you *[Gentiles]* were...aliens from the commonwealth of Israel👈 👉you *[Gentiles]* are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God *[AKA: Israel!]* 👈
Hebrew roots movement @10:15, I personally do not believe anyone should be keeping Chanukah or Purim. These are not Gods feasts, these two are inventions of man, and disrupt the overall grand design of God. Overall, I like your presentation, and I look forward to seeing more of your videos on this topic. Peace
I think it's a good thing if it arrives at the typical local church. It's important to understand the Tanakh to appreciate the work of Christ and the message of the New Testament. Most churches I've been to recently don't even have Bibles under the seats, and they sing worldly contemporary song melodies with very ear friendly, "Jesus words" attached to them. Very disappointing experience for the Christian who holds scripture on a high level to be esteemed.
I can't help but notice that everything you said in this video is in line with what MUSLIMS say about Christians. What do Muslims say? That the trinity is not part of the original Christian doctrine. Many of the celebrations are pagan derived. That God cannot have a biological/literal son. That Christians are not following the teachings of Jesus from almost every perspective including dietary and ritualistic perspectives.
Many of us are Sabbatarians. We are not Adventists. We keep The Sabbath. But not The Dietary Laws or The Jewish Civil Law, which we as Gentiles were never subject to. We call GOD by HIS NAME, YEHOVAH. JESUS'S NAME is actually YESHUA and we call HIM BY HIS GOD GIVEN NAME. Instead of Westernizing, Anglicizing THE NAME (HASHEM) in any way.. That's HIS HOLY NAME. Well ✅ my friend.
Did Yeshua come to make the Unclean animals clean or make unclean human beings clean? If it was unlawful to eat unclean animals before the cross, did it become lawful after the cross? The Law is not Jewish. It is a way of Life and standard of Living for Yahweh's people. Elohim is the same yesterday, today and for ever. HalleluYah.
Adventists believe in salvation by faith through grace not works lol we keep all Ten Commandments because Jesus said “if you love me KEEP my commandments”
They came, stayed a few years, tried to turn everyone. They showed how they did some things. When they realized no one was turning the man sent our pastor a nasty email. Thats how he does. He insults by text or email.
I made a really good positive comment about how ahead of its time the Torah was and the health benefits and how it teaches us how to love God others and ourselves and live long life and I think it was taken down, even though I said nothing negative or hostile against anyone. I wonder why?
Also Jesus fulfilled the priesthood, sacrifices and the need for a king with his death and resurrection and defeated the enemy who was preventing us to exercise the fullness of the law which we can successfully do now through the Holy Spirit!
Titus 1:10 For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. 11 They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. ---- 1 Timothy 1: 6 Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.
Titus is well known to be deutro-pauline- meaning that "someone" many hundreds of years later wrote "something" Paul's name pretending to be him for an agenda. This isn't even contested in modern theological circles. So if you want to put your trust in that random person rather than Christ's actual words...
אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (’ehye ’ăšer ’ehye;) in context basically means “I exist) which contrasts to the idols and gods of Egypt that did not exist nor have any power. The Patriarchs, and their wives and the prophets addressed the Father by name, their names often contained the Fathers name as well. They used the Fathers name when praying directly or when speaking to angelic representatives who delivered the Fathers words. The Father dwells in unapproachable light and often sent angels who stood in his presence. He was known by his name. If you dig into the oldest literature in almost any ancient library you will find mentions of Yahuah. The ineffable name doctrine is new. This is why Yah’s name is replaced in your Bible. It’s in the source texts. Exodus 6:3 3 “And I appeared to Aḇraham, to Yitsḥaq, and to Ya‛aqoḇ, as Ěl Shaddai. And by My Name, יהוה, was I not known to them? Some translations make this verse a contradictory and illogical statement considering that even the women called on the Father by name prior to the Angel sent by the Father speaking to Moses. Eve used YHWH’s name Genesis 4:1 1 And Aḏam knew Ḥawwah his wife, and she conceived and bore Qayin, and said, “I have gained a man, יהוה.” Genesis 4:26 26 And to Shěth, to him also a son was born. And he called his name Enosh. Then it was begun to call on the Name of יהוה.e Footnote: eThe first record of “calling on the Name of יהוה.” Genesis 9:26 26 And he said, “Blessed be יהוה, the Elohim of Shěm, and let Kena‛an become his servant. Genesis 12:7-8 7 And יהוה appeared to Aḇram and said, “To your seed I give this land.” And he built there a slaughter-place to יהוה, who had appeared to him. 8 And from there he moved to the mountain east of Běyth Ěl, and he pitched his tent, with Běyth Ěl on the west and Ai on the east. And he built there a slaughter-place to יהוה, and called on the Name of יהוה. Genesis 13:4 4 to the place of the slaughter-place which he had made there at first. And there Aḇram called on the Name of יהוה. Genesis 14:22 22 But Aḇram said to the sovereign of Seḏom, “I have lifted my hand to יהוה, the Most High Ěl, the Possessor of the heavens and earth, Genesis 15:2 2 And Aḇram said, “Master יהוה, what would You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eli‛ezer of Dammeseq?” Genesis 15:7 7 And He said to him, “I am יהוה, who brought you out of Ur-kasdim, to give you this land to inherit it.” Genesis 16:2 2 And Sarai said to Aḇram, “See, יהוה has kept me from bearing children. Please, go in to my female servant. It might be that I am built up by her.” And Aḇram listened to the voice of Sarai. Genesis 16:5 5 And Sarai said to Aḇram, “My wrong be upon you! I gave my female servant into your bosom. And when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes. Let יהוה judge between you and me.” Genesis 16:11-14 11 And the Messenger of יהוה said to her, “See, you are conceiving and bearing a son, and shall call his name Yishma‛ěl, because יהוה has heard your affliction. 12 “And he is to be a wild man, his hand against every one and every one’s hand against him, and dwell over against all his brothers.” 13 And she called the Name of יהוה who spoke to her, “You are the Ěl who sees,” for she said, “Even here have I seen after Him who sees me?” 14 That is why the well was called Be’ěr Laḥai Ro’i, see, it is between Qaḏěsh and Bereḏ. And on and on. People called on Yah’s name. David used it in the Psalms. Messiah used his Fathers name. Romans 10:12-16 12 Because there is no distinction between Yehuḏi and Greek, for the same Master of all is rich to all those calling upon Him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be saved.”c Jol 2:32. Footnote: cAct 2:21. 14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without one proclaiming? 15 And how shall they proclaim if they are not sent? As it has been written, “How pleasant are the feet of those who bring the Good News of peace, who bring the Good News of the good!” Isa 52:7. 16 However, not all obeyed the Good News. For Yeshayahu says, “יהוה, who has believed our report?” Isa 53:1. John 3:35-36 35 “The Father loves the Son, and has given all into His hand. 36 “He who believes in the Son possesses everlasting life, but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of Elohim remains on him.” The Father created us and saves us through his son. We are to trust and obey the son. The son is the prophet like Moses. To be a true teacher he could not add or subtract from the word of Elohim. Yahuah is the ancient pronunciation, Yahweh is new but the Father knows when you pray and call on his name so do not worry. Ask the Father in the name of the son. He’ll answer. ❤
Gods church in the last days and a not a Sunday keeping church. Revelation 14:12 “ Here is the patience of the saints, here are they who KEEP the commandments of God and have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ “
This group frightens me. They are seem really knowledgeable and have many points, I think this is heresy though. I think groups like this always try to point out hidden knowledge, but that’s a red flag
It's not 'hidden knowledge' at all :) It is laid out very clearly in your bible. You just have to read it within the historical context (1st century Jew) vs. through 2000 years of (non-Hebraic) tradition. It takes a bit of honest research to get you there.
@@thedowntoearthchristian What do you think James was asking him to do in Acts 21:23-24 ? And then Paul "purified himself" in order to enter the Temple. Then also announced when the "sacrifice would be offered for each one of them." I am not sure what stance you think James is taking with Paul here? And Paul, the bold and brave apostle who stood up to Peter didn't argue with James about offering a sacrifice. So, what is James asking Paul to do here in order to prove that Paul still keeps the Torah?
It's interesting how hypocrites know what the word not means in Matthew 5:18, but don't understand what the word not means in Jeremiah 31:31-32; Hebrews 8:8-9. And Matthew 5:43 in the Law given through Moses in Old Testament Judaism is not Matthew 5:44 in the law of Christ in New Testament Christianity, based on Hebrews 7:11-12; Luke 5:36-39.
Thank you for this message. My spirit is telling me this movement is not something for me. I keep referring back to a wolf! It is good to know what is "out there" to watch for. Sometimes there are things that can come to your path that would be "sneaky" and you get caught up and the will have to "re-group" or "re-set".
As far as I know, FFOZ does *not* teach that all Christians should live as Jews. The Apostles view the Torah as having God's authority relevant to their time as evidenced in their citations of it in their letters. However, their application does not in any wise require Gentiles to take up uniquely Jewish observances.
@@joanmcsweeney5547 that instruction says "Abraham believed, and it was credited to him as righteousness." That instruction does not require Gentiles with a saving faith in the G-d of Israel to convert to become Israeli. In fact, it provides for their present and designates them as "Gerim."
@professoryerger1196 OK, you're confusing the political state of Israel with the actual people of Israel. Israel is not a place, it is a people. When you believe on the death, burial, and resurrection of The Son, you are then grafted into the people of Israel, God's people, the elect, the few who were chosen (Romans 11). You are no longer a gentile (heathen, of the nation's, not in covenant. Does not mean non jew) but a Hebrew (means to cross over). There are some in the land but Israelis are not His people and He is not a polygamist and has two brides. There was, is and always will be one bride and the promise given to her in Jeremiah 31, Ezekiel 36, no gentiles included. You have to cross over to be His.
@@professoryerger1196 actually if you go back into the originally text the way it reads is without the commas in Hebrew rather than in the Greek translation and then into English it has a completely different meaning. Jesus Word's Only covers this. Commas don't exist in Hebrew but they certainly do change the meaning of things in English.
I have really enjoyed your videos and learning about all these different topics u have done! I just recently found out about this movement from a friend and was going to start looking into it because it sounded questionable.. I ended up going to your channel to watch some of the videos u had posted and u did this video. Well that’s God right there.. So anyway what I really wanted to say is… I just found out about another group of people who are saying the Bible supports the earth being flat. I am very interested to hear your take on this topic. Hope u have a wonderful day!
While I do not pretend to understand why some believers insist on living under Mosaic law I think a lot of people seek the wrong thing. Scripture tells us to seek the Kingdom of God. I do believe Christianity tends to throw the baby out with the bath water. As we try to shed the law we also shed things that help to keep us focused on the Kingdom of God. Example the feasts should be significant to Christians, each remain us of exactly what Jesus did or will do or fulfilled. Passover for example is certainly a visualization of Jesus paying the price for our sin. Pentecost the celebration of the harvest, certainly reflects on how the Holy Spirit harvests believers and indwelling within them. Likewise the Mosiac social laws certainly pertain to us today and are found in most social law we have today. People need to understand where these laws came from and who first established them. Therefore they are not open to discussion or the belief society has changed so these laws do not/ should not pertain to us today.
If one focus's on Jesus he will walk as he walked. 1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
They're not being tempted, they're being guided. Be careful. They want to obey the Father's commands, statutes, and right rulings that He told us to keep and guard over 280 times from Genesis to Revelation. If Jesus is The Word and no one is drawn to Him but by Father and your members are being drawn.....common, put this together now.....and you want to stop them? This seems familiar to when the Pharisees believed Jesus cast out demons by demonic power. Again, caution!
Why would you do that? Jesus says in Matthew 5:17-19 That until heaven and earth pass away not one jot or tittle shall pass away from the Law and the Prophets. Then the next passage which so often is ignored, says that whoever breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches men to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, BUT whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. So since heaven and earth are still here take Jesus at His Word and encourage men to follow the commandments of God! Which is fully following Jesus who is the whole Word made flesh. The most terrifying Scripture to modern day Christian believers should be Matthew 7:21-23 paraphrasing here, please read it for yourself and test everything to the Word of God…so again Jesus talking here, not everyone who says Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven, BUT those who are doing my Fathers will. ( which is keeping His Commandments) Then these people say didn’t I prophesied in your Name, cast out demons and do other mighty works in your Name? Then Jesus tells them I never knew you, depart from me you who work lawlessness. (People not keeping His Laws). I don’t know about you, but I have never cast out a demon or prophesied, so this should be alarming to someone not keeping the Law of God. If the whole purpose of man is to follow His Commandments (Ecc. 12:13) is this no longer true? If the Law of God was meant to bless us and be good for us, why would He take them away from us after the cross? See Deut 11:26-27, Psalm 119, Prov 8:32, Matt 5:6, Matt 5:10, Luke 11:28, Rev 22:14 plus so many others…Jesus was not an American who went to theological seminary, it seems like it would be wise to question everything taught by man and test everything it to the whole Word of God.
A neighbor family are the first Messianic followers I have encountered. Saturday Sabbath, strictly Vegan but when I presented 1Timothy 4 1-5 they dismiss it as New Testament. If you take the life and Death of Jesus Christ out of Christianity what do you have?
@@thedowntoearthchristian Wow, slavery under the LAW. I follow the moral code under the LAW; therefore, I don't sleep with men, other men's wives or molest children. And you call that slavery?! The more you speak, the less I respect you as a man!
If they're Messianic, then Saturday Sabbath makes sense, which would allow them to properly evangelize to their brethren. Veganism, that sounds like a personal choice and not religious, unless they gave you a religious reason, did they?
Yeah, that's a fairly good summary of Hebrew Roots. However, gentiles are not required nor can they properly follow the Holy Torah. They can glean from it, but it's impossible to follow it. Only a pious Jew can follow it like Mary the mother of Messiah, and Zechariah and Elizabeth, etc. Basically, you have to be taught from an early age within a righteous home. Gentiles today, spend their time watching Hollywood movies, TV programming, pourn and tiktok to amuse their minds. As the saying goes, you can't teach an old dog, new tricks. Or better said, a dog will return to its vomit.
It's impossible for Gentiles because they are too attached to the world. They are the lukewarm and have not fully submitted to Father's ways or His covenant. They are very easy especially if you have a heart after Him.
@@joanmcsweeney5547 Right, and that's the key, a heart after Him! They just create their own idol and god instead to fit their lusts of the flesh per 1 John 2 v15
@@thedowntoearthchristian Only lowly gentiles can understand like the Canaanite woman who Jesus called a 'dog'. She had great faith, since she knew she only deserved the crumbs from the master's table. It's extremely rare to meet a lowly gentile in the 21st century, they're actually high minded, believing they're kings and queens with heavenly anointings. But Christ say's in the book of Revelation, they are poor and wretched.
@thedowntoearthchristian you're either His or you're not, you are either of His covenanted people or you're not. The promise was given and made to His people, Israel. There is no spiritual israel and physical Israel, then biblical Israel. There has always been and always will be one and you get to be part of it. Did you know gentile does not mean non Jewish? It means of the nations, a heathen, uncovenanted. All 12 tribes are not Jewish. Look to who the promises where made to? names are on new Jerusalem,? who does the dragon pursue? What songs does His people sing in Revelation? You cannot be a gentile and a believer. You guys throw around being grafted in all the time ,but do you really believe it or understand it? No sir, you're problem is not with us Bible keepers. You're problem is with scripture itself. You still have time to reconsider your presuppositions.
The most important part that was ignored is PRAYER AND FASTING. When a true follower of YHWH hears something new they immediately set at least 3 days apart to fast and pray about wether the thing they heard is true or not. Not from the church's nor ourself do we seek truth, but from YHWH's viewpoint.
@thedowntoearthchristian I have watched MANY of these videos against Hebrew Roots, Hebrew Israelite teachings and I have NEVER seen anyone say they fasted and prayed about the information that's presented. Yes a Berean is someone that studies the scriptures to see if what's said is true (modern day spiritual Berean). Even with reading scriptures, it's true. I don't see why Christians feel the need to tear down what YHWH is building just to hold to your traditions of man. If I were you I would examine closely what's said(seems like you have to a point) then if you are still on the fence, pray and fast on it and receive the word straight from the spirit of YHWH. then you will know for yourself, not just because you heard this or that. I promise,YHWH is building up a remnant for himself. It looks different from what others expected (just as Yeshua looked different from what the leaders expected in His day). I'm praying you get a true revelation straight from Heaven
@@thedowntoearthchristian please don't crucify YHWH's remnant because you don't understand what we are doing. Revelation 12: 17 explains what YHWHs remnant is... those that keep the testamony of Yeshua and the commandments given by Moses.
True protestants keep the Bible sabbath as stated in the 4th commandment, we don't keep the Ten Commandments to be saved, we keep the Ten Commandments because Jesus said if you love me KEEP my commandments" the sabbath is a blessing not a burden.
@@TheDonald2024 Yes, salvation is by faith and by God's grace, but faith and works must go together, because salvation is by faith but blessings are by obedience.
All the commandments carry a blessing when are kept. And a curse when they are broken.
The Holy Spirit gives us the want and the power to obey God's commandments (whatever applies to us,).
Amen
God also forbids idolatry
I find it funny that you Sunday keepers are not ok with the one commandment God said to “ Remember “ but you are ok with all other 9 commandments 😆 God said if you ignore one you ignore all.. Sunday is not and will NEVER be the lords day
You silly rabbit JESUS is our rest.
@@wildrover9650 in that case stop sleeping every night and work 24/7
So instead of keeping the sabbath as the 4th commandment states you keep the man made Sunday false sabbath lol got it
if you continue to say that Gods 10 commandments are slavery then you will not enjoy judgement day.. repent.
Matthew 5:19 So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Two things. Where does it say the feasts are Jewish Feasts? God says, these are His Feasts. Also, Isaiah 2:2-3 speaks of the Torah being taught to the nations in the end days. How if the Torah is so called no longer applicable?
If you love Me, you will keep my commandments. John14:15
He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him. John 14:21
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love. John15:10
By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him. 1 John 2:3-5
How could it be any more clear?
amen! these sunday keepers are ignorant
look at John 15:12 and John 15:17
@@concussionoflight Note plural in the quoted verses
yes, the commandments to Love God and Love your neighbor, not the Law
The Ten Commandments were written on stone with the finger of Jesus, the laws of Moses were outside of the ark written on paper. the 10 commandments still stand
Do you not recall Korah challenging Moses. Moses said none of what I say comes from my own head. God confirmed that with Aaron and Miriam and said that he spoke plainly to Moses. Moses simply documented Gods word to his people.... All of it was God's instructions for living!!!
Yahweh revelation of the 4 commandment to honor. The feasts of Yahweh no the pagan ones. His Hebrew Names. Pray to Yahweh for the real true. Yahweh will talk to your ❤ and teach you his Torah. Pray asking the true.
What verse says we have to use his Hebrew names? Did Matthew, Mark Luke or John use non Hebrew names for God?
@@thedowntoearthchristian We learned in Bible college that whenever the scriptures have the capital LORD, it is a replacement for יהוה (or Yod Hey Vav Hey, which many put as YHWH, or YHVH - or just Yah - what do you think HalleluYah means? It means, Praise to YAH. - it even says that in the footnotes of any KJV Bible).
The reason the person above said that is simply to differentiate which God you are addressing. “God” is just a title, not His Name. That’s all she meant….
@@thedowntoearthchristian No they didn't!
Who are we gonna follow? Jesus the One who wrote the ten commandments with his finger on stone to signify its permanence, or a solar off grid guy who thinks sunday the 1st day of the week is the lords day lol me and my household will follow Jesus.
A crafty teacher using calm words and baiting many to comment with us all knowing you are about to use your own prowess to keep many from the truth. Your responses to some of the comments show clearly your sly intentions alongside discernment. I would implore you to reconsider for teachers are judged more upon the basis of the waves their ripples may cause.
Doctrines for itching ears with many twisting Paul to their own and others destruction... Those that Christ shall tell to depart for they be workers of lawlessness. It is of these things that the movements are warning people of - they are saving many from the hypocrisy of the standard somewhat bible derived faiths... We either stand on the word as our firm foundation or we stand on man's.... The standard faiths stand on mans word and holds it above gods.
The movements are at times a step towards the truth but the way of christ and the disciples is often still muddled.
These movements about repenting properly and humbling oneself to God and his word rather than seeking vain happiness and feelings and finding oeople thwt will agree with your excusee not to heed the word of god and his words to his chosen people on how he wants them to live... If god doesnt change why would you think he changed how he wanted his chosen people to live from rulings of many fscets of life from diet onwards to do whatever you like and folloeing the desires of tour ever deceitful heart?
Christ was our example. We either follow that example or we shouldnt bother.
Don't forget Matthew 18:6 "But whoever causes one of these little ones to sin, it would be better to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be thrown into the depths of the sea."
The little ones meaning those reaching for the truth. Teachers have a greater judgement weight bear for pushing the little ones away from the truth. We follow THE WORDS IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE. We don't cherry pick. We weigh the words through research. Why do we do that? Because we have been called out by YHWH to set things straight using His own two edge sword of truth. Which is the WHOLE SCRIPTURE! Bless you brothers and sisters for coming to battle against the lies of false religion.
Jesus kept the sabbath and so sis apostle Paul and his disciples even after he ascended back to heaven, the sabbath was made man ( all humanity ) not man ( Jews ) for the sabbath.. we don’t keep the sabbath to be saved, we keep all Ten Commandments because Jesus said if you love me KEEP my commandments… Sunday is for Catholic pagans
You don’t hate the commandments you only hate the 4th commandment which identifies the creator of the universe.. You can’t call yourself a Protestant if you keep Sunday a day that the Catholic Church made the “ lords day “ lol this is why I’m so proud to be SDA, Gods only true church.
If Jesus Christ would broken any commandment or incite anybody to break any commandments, he would have commit sin, therefore He would not be able to be Messiah.
But thank God He not only keep all God's commandments but also brought them to their highest level, the Spirit level of the law. He said: "...you heard, but I say to you...." He gave the right meaning to the commandments, and his fence is much more higher than in the old testament: before Jesus Christ people had to be caught "in-fraganti" comiting sin, but now Jesus Christ say ...if you look tona woman with lust, you sinned.
Why is Jesus Christ more demanding than Moses?
Because now we are in the new covenant, we are saved by faith (as always was..) and the new covenant not only includes the law of God but also... Christ (Messiah), the blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit. Old testament people hadn't such a powerful aid, and God didn't forgive them when they sinned willingly and didn't want to repent, because without repentance there is no forgiveness.
If God didn't make an exception with his people Israel, hiw in the world we think that God will make an exception with us, who have been grafted in Israel? He won't do an exception, we are only branches.
"[26] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, [27] but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. [28] He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: [29] of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? [30] For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. [31] It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Hebrews 10:26-31.
We must take things seriously, and start to live really holy lives, that is according to God's will. We must read carefully and verify everything we believe. Jesus Christ will return soon and he personally will judge everyone of us by His words, not by that charismatic leader or pastor, but but his words.
[47] And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. [48] He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. " John.12.47-48.KJV
Blessings!
The Law of Moses is no longer binding on mankind. Unless you want to put yourself under it then you must keep it ALL. Thankfully, thought Jesus in our High Priest and not the decedents of Aaron. Why? because the Law changed.
@@thedowntoearthchristianThe verse that you are semi-quoting is about salvation. If one thinks they can be SAVED by keeping His Instructions, they must be kept without fail. That’s totally different than SANCTIFICATION which is simply, now that you have been redeemed, how then shall we live? Answer: According to His perfect will, which of course are laid out in His Word - His Perfect Law which needs no improvement.
He specifically gave us His Holy Spirit to help us do that. Just because we may stumble doesn’t mean you give up! If we can do “all things” through Christ which strengthens us, why would it mean everything in the whole world EXCEPT to walk in His ways? 😅
Thank you @luisea930 for not only getting it right but also rightly dividing the word (2 Timothy 2:15).The Law does apply even onto the end as Yeshua has pronounced in Matthew 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’ shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me you have practice lawlessness!’ - That still means that the Law is applicable in the Day of Judgement. The Apostle Paul stated this in 1 Corinthians 12:3 “Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God call Yeshua accursed, and no one can say that Yeshua is Adonai except by the Holy Spirit”. The Lord is literally speaking about “believers” those who have an outer appearance of righteousness but inside still do not believe in Him. They are those who are coming into judgement. And that is something that is not only eminent but also prophetic. There will be many. And they’re are those who’ve produced lawlessness.
Think of it this way from a practical standpoint: when you get pulled over by a cop and he wants to take you out of your car and says, put your hands behind your back, you would want to ask the guy, what law have I broken? He would have to give you a reason why. And then for someone else to come along and bail you out. That someone has been incredibly gracious and kind to you. And then to put things forward, another person gets into a similar bind and you decide NOT to help out that person but instead walk right past him, you have done no good. For there was a sincere chance to help that person. But better is the person who not only saved them from perdition but also helps teach them. For in that, both have been partakers of the law and grace that were given to them and they are considered wise, fruitful and faithful servants.
This is just a very practical observation in general that could be applied to anything. Where there are laws, there is structure. And where there is structure, instruction would take place. We see this everyday, whether you’re going through driver license manual, you’re going to see what they laws are and then get instructions on how to operate a motor vehicle and ride on the road. It exists in music...we called that styles. In physics, we call it, the law of physics. There’s a particular design and order of how things operate. The Bible is ours and it validates itself. My challenge to you is to dig deep and start to understand the meaning of it and how it applies. For right now, in our day and age, we are starting to see a fulfillment in scripture of Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38 & 39. We’re definitely are on the precipice right now...and yes, it is based upon His commandments. A person can easily flip on tv and see that we’re nearly there. So comes my question for you: are you trying to prompt a discussion about it or are you trying to disprove the commandments don’t apply? And if think the latter, I would highly suggest putting in a sincere amount of research into it before speaking. That way you would not lose time or any resources for that matter. For it is better to listen first than to speak.
Christ is my example, he kept all Ten Commandments and I will keep all Ten Commandments.. they stand fast and forever. You can continue to ignore his Sabbath day and call made made catholic sunday the lords day.
You just broke #9. Nobody but Jesus ever kept the LAW. Nobody can. If we say we have no sin we lie and the truth is not in us. If we could keep the law, why did Jesus have to die?
@@ebt777 Many people keep the law. Keeping the law means that you obey it and if you fail to do so, you repent and commit to obeying it again. That is mercy and was established from the beginning ....
Gods church in the last days is not a sunday keeping church.
Revelation 14:12
“ Here is the patience of the saints, here are they who KEEP the commandments of God and have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ “. The only church who fits this description is the Seventh day Adventist church
The investigative judgement isn't the testimony of Jesus.
errr.. ummm.. couuugh cough... and a WHOLE LOTTA other folks as well!
Salvation is by faith (and always has been by faith and by grace: Hebrews 11). We are forgiven by the sole grace of God and the blood of Jesus Christ not only cleanses us of every sin but also grafts us in his people Israel (Ephesians 2, Romans 11).
Jesus Christ taught us to obey all the law that applies to us (Matthew 5:17-19) and that if we start to obey other laws than the law of Moses we will not enter in the kingdom of heaven (the Pharisees obeyed the "Talmud" instead the law of God, the Talmud was created by men, so they trust in their own justice, and not in God). There is no justice in obeying men instead of God, only the law of God defines righteousness.
We obey the law to avoid sin (1 John 3:4), and to be blessed by God (Deuteronomy 28) and to bring the kingdom to our home, to our city and to our country (because by the Spirit we receive the want and the ability to obey God).
The new covenant, is a renewal of the old covenant but with new powerful additions (Jeremiah 31:31-34, Matthew 26:28, Hebrews 8:8-13) we have Messiah Jesus Christ, his Blood and the Spirit of Grace/Holy Spirit (Hebrews 10:28-31).
If we despise the commandments of God we won't be able to be holy, because we won't have the moral rule, and we won't be able to discern between the good and the evil, we will live in anarchy (Matthew 7:23: doers of iniquity = doers of anarchy from the Greek word ANOMIA: people who do whatever they want instead of obeying what God commanded them to do).
The enemy has deceived us making us think that the law is a curse, but in reality it's totally the contrary: we are blessed by obeying the "Father's will", the written will he gave us in His word.
Salvation is by faith, but blessing is by obedience.
Faith without works is dead faith, and that kind of faith won't save anybody. (Matthew 7:21-28).
Blessings!
I'm not correcting you, I'm just saying.
Saved by grace, through faith...not saved by faith, through grace. When you think about it, first we put our faith in Jesus and by that we receive the Holy Spirit. It is the power of the Holy Spirit working in our lives that encourages/enables us to keep all of Gods Torah. When we fail, we are forgiven our sin by the Blood of Jesus Christ. Remember what Jesus said Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. We are saved by Grace, James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Peace
Keeping the sabbath was never done away with it’s one of the Ten Commandments, what was nailed to the cross were ceremonial laws and feasts.. the sabbath was established at creation
The reason people are starting to obey the commandments of Yahuah is because that's how we show that we love him and Christianity honour him with their lips but not with their hearts. You don't love Yah the way you want to , he tells us how to love him. Deuteronomy 30 , jubilees 23 and 1 Enoch 1 all speak of a righteous generation in the latter days. That's what you are seeing happen. Most of the commandments don't apply to us and it's only a small number that Christians don't do but they do their pagan versions of them. How does that make sense? You have a problem with Yahuah's appointed times but the Babylonian ones that were integrated into Catholicism people make a big deal of. Christians start by finding religion and then learning scripture through their lens. If you started in Genesis and didn't have any outside influence everyone would be 1 group and walking 1 way just as instructed. John 14 where Yahusha speaks of sending us the Spirit of Truth he has a requirement and Christians don't do it as it was nailed to the cross or some nonsense. You don't have the Holy Spirit so you don't think that the instructions of your Father in heaven are important. Try it and see for yourself, you'll be back here teaching the truth if you did. I know you are not intentionally deceiving people but you are doing it all the same. I'm not Hebrew roots or sacred namers although I do use the proper name for our Father as that's the name that was given as an answer when I was seeking it. Proverbs 30:4 Says Father and Son too , revelation 14:12 says Satan is at war with who? If you ain't keeping the commandments of Yahuah which you learn in the OT and the testimony of Yahusha which is in the NT you are on satan's side. The Jews reject the Son and Christians reject the commandments. Can you see the problem that they will have? I thought you were pretty respectful in the video and didn't think you were trying to bash the people that love God and keep his commandments or walk just as his Son told us too. Was surprised by your comments though. I'd read the ascension of Isaiah it should have been canon but as with any book that tells of the lawless people in the end times it wasn't included. Chapter 3 is the body of believers today and chapter 4 is who they worship. Only 1 persons writings give him his credibility and billions of people follow religions based solely on that persons writings. We're not in the renewed or new covenant yet that's a future event read Ezekiel 36 it happens after we are regathered. Even in Hebrews it's a future event. Wise virgins = Proverbs 6:23 and Song of Solomon 1-3 . Virgins, oil, lamp, light all explained. The fruit we should bear = Psalms 1. You are experiencing the fig tree sprouting forth leaves which is the people waking up to the truth. It's be nice to have more people doing it rather than being taught It's not biblical. It's biblical and it's "The Way" the only way. So do some research brother I know you want to teach people the truth.
all those who claim to obey the commandments of Yahuah - CAN'T. You lost me right after you vomited what you false teachers teach "Most of the commandments don't apply to us and it's only a small number that Christians don't do but they do their pagan versions of them" God never said 'do the ones that apply' and who decides which ones appy? You? Also Torah Keepers cant keep the laws as God commanded. Every time they claim to keep the Feasts they Lie. You can't keep the feasts as God Commanded, where do you take your offerings? So those claiming to keep the Feasts at best keep them as a tradition of man, worse you are sending up Strange Fire.
@@salpezzino7803 ah one of satan's minions saying we can't keep the commandments or do the feasts. Are you a priest/king/farmer/woman etc all commandments for roles that we don't all fit. Nobody is sacrificing animals, and how do you worship him? Do you need a temple to pray to him? He doesn't listen to sinners so it doesn't matter anyway but he's not confined to a building. Yahuahs feast are His and they're commanded to be kept. You should read the Torah you'll be surprised to learn it's not hard to keep. But best listen to your lawless pastor or whoever and say nobody can keep them that we are liars and Yahuah is a tyrant giving people commandments they wouldn't be able to keep. Seriously did you read your bible?
Agreed, these apostate Sunday keepers are not following Christ but man made Sunday
@@EIonMusk1 do you keep the Commanded feasts as God Commanded? No you don't you keep them as man made doctrine. I can't call you an Apostate because you were NEVER one of His
@salpezzino we true Protestants keep the 10 commandments written in stone by the finger of Jesus.. the feasts were part of the law of Moses written on parchment paper.. do better
Guys check RL Solberg, he deals with HRM or Torahists really. If you have questions regarding this movement, check him out and get a better understanding in what is is
Then watch Steve Moutria from Torah Family give His rebuttal given directly from scripture. Mr. Solberg erroneously quotes scholars, church fathers, and cherry picked verses which the church has based entire theologies on.
Mr Solberg is very motivated by his own observations. He has admitted in a reply to me that his perspective does not represent all of Torah observant communities. He has seen families divided and that is his motivation. All that to say, he does not give a full perspective and he admits that. I will watch him at times because he does challenge me to understand my own beliefs, but he does not represent torah observance accurately, only from his perspective.
@@joanmcsweeney5547 Steve is a Satanist.
@@mattclevenger8598 Solgerg's problem is he teaches Christians are no longer under the 10 commandments. This just feeds the Satanic Cult the Hebrew/Jewish roots, because they claim he is an Antinomian. which he is, However, these same Cultists believe that antinomianism is the rejection of the law of Moses, which it isnt
I have seen him in debates with Tora observers and he is unable to stand against the scripture that speaks against his evaluation of not keeping the Tora
That was a much better representation of Hebrew Roots than in your other video about teachings to run away from. Thank you for that. We also are called Whole Bible believers doing Bible things in Bible ways, in the first century we would have been followers of The Way. A few things I’m not sure you fully understand. The Sabbath and the Feasts of the Lord were established on the 4th day of creation, before any people were created. When He placed the sun moon and stars in the sky they were to let His people know when His appointed times were to be held in Hebrew they are called the Moedim. Since people were created on the 6th day, these special days on The Fathers calendar are for ALL people to meet with Him. Therefore they are not “Jewish” Feast Days, but they are days God set apart to be special for His people to meet with Him. So these Days are special to The Father, they are extremely prophetic and let us know where we are on His timeline. The 1st 4 Feasts, Passover, Christ was the Passover Lamb, Unleavened Bread, when Christ was in the earth for 3 days and nights, and Firstfruits when Christ was raised from the dead were fulfilled by His 1st coming. Then Pentecost, which by the way was the day that Moses received the written instructions from God, now are written on our heart when He sent His Holy Spirit. So we keep these Feast in remembrance of what He did for us. The next 3 Feasts, which are the fall feasts will be fulfilled by His second coming. He returns with the sound of a loud trumpet, which is Feast of Trumpets, then there will be Judgement day on Feast of Atonement and then the largest Wedding Feast ever during the Feast of Sukkot or Tabernacles. Even in earthly terms we have rehearsals for weddings, so wouldn’t you want to be prepared for the biggest Wedding Day? So we keep the Feasts as rememberance and rehearsal for the Feasts not yet fulfilled. Our focus is to follow and do what Christ did, it is only by His blood that we are saved. If when the Law was written down, we were told to walk in it (Deuteronomy 10:11-13), fully
knowing that Christ walked that same law, and John said we are to walk exactly like He walked (1 John 2:5-6), while Paul said we are to also follow Christs example (1 Cor 11:1), then would we
not follow the same commandments that Christ walked?
Can you show me where anyone kept the feast days and the Sabbath before the Hebrews got the Law at Mt Sinai?
@@thedowntoearthchristian The point seems to me that it is not whether anyone now keeps or ever has kept God's laws, the point is that God said to keep them once He established them for both the Israelite and the stranger among them. I wonder why Christianity is so adamant about observing Easter and Christmas when it is historically documented that they are not Biblical. Jesus was the Passover Lamb and that had nothing to do with Easter. Paul kept the Passover, Peter ate Kosher, John said that sin was the transgression of the law. If the Old Testament Law was abrogated, then it is the responsibility of the Church to prove it. With respect, I've never seen anything that has held up under scrutiny to make that case, but rather hear a lot of misunderstanding and conjecture. You would have to contradict scriptures in the New Testament to make that case. Jesus' words should be the final statement on this issue, for no one, not even Paul has the authority to override Jesus or God. That would prove them to be a false teacher. Blessings.
@@thedowntoearthchristian Wow, that was your take away from my comment? Gen 4:3-5 Cain and Abel, sacrifice system was established that they knew about. Gen 7:2 Noah (not Jewish) knew which animals were clean (or meant for food) because he was to bring 7 of each of them onto the ark, and 2 of the unclean animals, so there was knowledge of which animals were created to eat. Gen 17:9 Abraham (not Jewish) covenant of circumcision. I want to make it clear that I have nothing against our Jewish brothers, but there is this strange notion that everyone in the OT was Jewish or from the Tribe of Judah and that the OT was only about them, and that they are the only ones that were given the instructions of God. The fact is that there were all 12 Tribes at the bottom of Mt. Sinai along with sojourners and others that wanted to follow God, and there was one law given to everyone. How would it work in your house if all your children were given a separate set of instructions? The main reason that our Jewish brothers do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah, is the Christians telling them that the law is done away with. So if Christ is the Word made flesh, and Christ is the Word of God (John 1:14, Rev 19:13) and supposedly some of the Word of God is abolished, did He get on the cross to abolish parts of Himself? Gen 22:8 Abraham tested with the sacrifice of his son, and God providing a lamb (Passover Lamb?) Gen 26:5 Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws. So clearly there were instructions and laws BEFORE the written law was given on Mt. Sinai. I don't understand your rebellion of not keeping the Sabbath on the 7th day, can man change the Word of God, can we do what is right in our own sight? Ex 12:1 Passover kept before Mt. Sinai, Ex 12:17 Feast of Unleavened Bread kept before Mt. Sinai. Just because He established the appointed times on the 4th day of creation whether He chose to implement them before or after the giving of the Commandments at Mt Sinai, does not negate the fact that the purpose of them was to be a sign to HIs people of His special days. The Bible is a beautiful love story of a Bridegroom who dies on the cross to redeem His bride. When Scripture states in the NT that we are to keep God's commandments in our love back to Him (1John5:2-3) as a response to His grace or love for us (1John 4:19), how can we conclude that we are to keep only some of God's commandments? Are commandments in Leviticus 23 or Leviticus 11 God's commandments or not?
Our heavenly Father Himself (Genesis 2:2-3). If Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man and He created it right after Adam and Eve.....Well.....
Look at Exodus 16:15- 36. Here the Law was not given but the Shabbat was there! Look also at Joseph in Potiphar's house when he said how can I sin against Yahweh. He knew adultery as sin.
I'm a Christian and do go to q messianic church. Although at my church we do teach that we are grafted into the tree we do not teach that every man needs has to be circumcised. The heart is what matters now. We follow the old and new Testament . We believe in the father, the son , and the holy ghost. We also believe in baptism and that Jesus has come and will return again. Some are Jewish and some are not. If you have any questions I can try to answer them.
Shalom, and glad to hear about the circumcision part, since that has to do with land rights in Israel from Abraham; which allows Jews the right to return to the promised land. It's not necessary for the body of Christ, as some have claimed. Blessings be upon you!
The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, If a woman conceives and bears a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days. As at the time of her menstruation, she shall be unclean. And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. (Lev 12:1-3)
Where does it say the Law changed? I thought you all taught not one Jot or Tittle would fall from the Law.
@@thedowntoearthchristian Unfortunately, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Nor critical thinking skills nor logic. Once someone's mind has become mush, it takes a miracle to heal someone's mind of a public education. The book of Galatians is clearly talking about adult circumcision for proselytes, not about infants. Titus was an adult, and not an infant. Converts were required to be circumcised based on oral law from the Pharisees, and nothing to do with the Law of Moses. Nothing! But people's minds in the latter days is like mush, they can't critically think since they're under the end-time delusion. The scripture you pointed out is for an infant at 8 days of age, there was no command of the Law of Moses for adults, which is why Pharisees added to it. But because people's minds are mush, they can't understand basic biblical concepts. Because Jews still circumcise on the 8th day, they were allowed the legal right to return to Israel. If they had listened to the Roman Catholic priests and now Protestants, they would be a people without a land, and Satan would have been victorious!
Circumcision was so important to God the Father that he was going to kill Moses over it because Moses did not have his son Circumcised. Then Moses' wife had to do it. Moses' son was believed to be about 30 yeaold at the time.
@HAChrist why do you think all 12 tribes of Israel are Jews?
two sacred institutions were established at creation: The 7th day sabbath ( Saturday ) and marriage.. anyone who says the sabbath is irrelevant has no light in him.. Jesus kept the sabbath it is a blessing not a burden. sunday is a burden because its not the lords day and its a pagan catholic day
Jesus and the early Church after he ascend kept the Sabbath, I will keep the sabbath.. we follow Jesus not man made traditions like sunday people
Boast in your adherence to the law. Pride comes before the fall…..
Also, there was no new testament at the time.
They also kept the Lord’s day which was Sunday because it was the beginning of the week and it was the new covenant. Why do you think that Paul addresses this so directly in Romans?
“One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.”
Romans 14:5 KJV
You’re in a cult and cults are all based on ego and pride, a desire to be set ABOVE others.
Over 90% of new converts to Judaism being reported by rabbis are HR movement CULT… think about that.
Satan has a trap for every person 🧀 🐭
Christ is our 24/7 Sabbath.
Jesus gave just two commandments, "love God, love people"
He was "quoting" from the Torah. Moreover, He was also describing the Torah itself, as all of the Law and the Prophets hang on those two Commandments. In turn, that means that the Torah defines love.
Matthew 22:35-40 LITV And one of them, a lawyer, questioned Him, testing Him, and saying, Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law? And Jesus said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind." *[Deut. 6:5]* This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." *[Lev. **19:18**]* On these two commandments all the Law and the Prophets hang.
Deuteronomy 6:5 NKJV You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
Leviticus 19:18 NKJV You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.
Shalom
Hebrew roots is a real revelation from Yahweh to his sons no from man. Thanks Yahweh 🙌🙌🙌
Who was the Hebrew Roots revelation given to? How did they prove is was from God and not a devil?
@thedowntoearthchristian easy. Why would the devil want us obeying the whole of scripture? Why would he want us to obey Father's commands and follow His Son who kept them and taught how we should walk in them? You may want to consider where your objections to Father's ways come from.
@@joanmcsweeney5547AMEN!!!
@@thedowntoearthchristian It comes straight from your Bible. Refresh your reading of several passages, including Ezekiel 11 and Ezekiel 18 (the repentance chapter), Jeremiah 23, 31, and 32, all of Hosea (Hosea is about YOU & ME!), Psalm 19 (a glorious Psalm) Psalm 119, oh my! Etc etc etc…..it’s all over the place!
Paul spoke of it continually as he taught the new believers……. Hey, just start from Genesis and end in Revelation! Don’t listen to commentators - just ask the Holy Spirit to show you the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing BUT the Truth, please help me God! That’s what I did about 10 years ago and He sure did! Just be brave and willing to trust and obey, for there is no other way to be happy in Yeshua!
@@thedowntoearthchristian are you AUTlSTlC? why would the devil want you keeping Gods law of liberty? the 10 commandments are a blessing not a burden
Browsing the comments it seems that people focus on the extreme isolated outliers. How about we do that when judging Christianity? Hmmm. Affairs, all kinds of sexual sin, its own "cults". See my point? That kind exageration makes the movement easy to dismiss. All you have to do is ask a Christian why they choose to disobey the sabbath, and what the definition of sin is. The conclusions we are coming to is because we've been lied to. Plain and simple. Not always necessarily out of malice, but modern christianity is sorely mistaken about numerous topics. Were just cutting off this game of telephone and going back to our saviors faith.
Prophesy is being fullfilled, we are waking up to our truth identity, we are Israel thru Jesus( yeshua).
What do you mean we are Israel? Which Israel, there are many in the Bible?
@@thedowntoearthchristian There's only one. Man added the rest.
@@joanmcsweeney5547 The Nation of Israel is a pagan nation, is it that one? Is it the Mosaic theocracy of the Bible? or Is it Jesus and His Church?
@salpezzino7803 The only one I mentioned is the one in scripture. I know this is confusing since we were all taught there's like 5 different Israel's. Welcome to spiritual warfare, God is not the author of confusion. God made a people unto Himself. Not a piece if land, not a political union, certainly not a pagan oriented cultural Israel, and He brought no one back in 1948, Ezekiel 37 is not fulfilled. Isreal was never anything else than His people. All the promises are to them. If you are covenanted with Him, you are true Israel and as it is described in the prophets, Jesus is going to bring back all 12 tribes of the diaspora. The event will be so great, it is said in the prophets that no one will speak of the Exodus under Moses anymore. There are a lot of amazing things to our faith walk that yall are missing.
@@joanmcsweeney5547
I am Israel.
The most heartbreaking thing I have witnessed in my entire life is the people I know that got wrapped up in the HRM/Torah observant religion. After 3-4years they now completely reject Jesus/Yeshua and the ENTIRE New Testament. They believe that to come to Jesus for salvation is idolatry. They also teach that ALL contained within the New Testament is a complete fabrication from Rome. Absolutely grieves my heart. 😥😥 Their group keeps growing in #. I keep praying for them and try to keep trusting that God has a plan.
There are some great teachers out there (119 ministries, Messiah Matters) but you have to consider there are less solid teachers overall as Torah-observances is smallish (right now). We don't have the benefit of the wealth, infrastructure of 2000 years of traditions of men.....we DO have the bible and we are extremely reliant on the bible.
@@helenagreenpine1496 there are many Torah observant Christians though I do not always agree with them on many matters, I consider them my brothers and sisters. I would consider “smallish” to be inaccurate. There have been Torah-Observant movements within the church from the very beginning. 119 ministries teaching the same false doctrines and misapplying scripture just as the foolish Galatians.
I'm concerned about your comment of, "they now completely reject Jesus" since this is a complete lie, or maybe you simply misunderstand the truth of the matter. Since the name "Jesus" is a misrepresentation, which did not occur until the mid 1500's, of our Messiah we return to the truth of the Word in Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek. We study the languages and we use the languages. In the original reference to the actual name which possessed only 4 letters, yod, shin, wuw, and ayin. This would be pronounced YSHWA. Other people pronounce it Yeshua. The bottom line is we have returned to THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE because He is our redeemer, our model and our salvation and through Him we are saved. Now, as for your second false claim that we ignore the New Testament we adhere to the Renewal of ALL the covenants which were first established by YHWH, our Creator, beginning the Garden of Eden with observing the Shabbat. The problem is nobody knows the scriptures anymore because worldly people dismiss and ignore it. We do not. We live by every utterance of YHWH. So please check your facts before throwing out poisonous darts of slander regarding something you clearly know nothing about. Thank you and may Yah bring knowledge to you.
@@shannhanson489 No, I didn’t misunderstand and I’m not slandering anyone. Only mentioning a personal experience. The specific people that I am referring to are people I know personally and they have been VERY clear stating what they believe. They reject Yeshua. They reject Messiah all together and claim you cannot be a true follower of Torah if you believe in a messiah. They also claim the entire New Testament is a fabrication written by Josephus and a prominent Roman family.
(@Lookinup24-7) What you're describing (rejecting Jesus/Yeshua) is not an accurate representation of the Hebrew Roots Movement. Now, mind you, I'm not saying it never happened, but it would have came from the "outer fringes". And, as for your comments concerning 119 Ministries: Would you please provide some examples of their supposed "false doctrines"? As well as how they "misapplying scripture just as the foolish Galatians"?
When Paul was chased out of Ephesus for teaching faith only and to ignore the instructions(law)of God(why would God care so much about obedience enough to send His own son to die if He didn't care about obedience? He sent the eternal sacrifice but not the eternal ignore everything I have set up until now...) he went to the Bishop of Jerusalem which was Jesus' brother James. Simon the Zealot was there ready to stone Paul, but instead there was a hearing held bc of what Paul had been saying to the gentiles(let's not forget that Christ said Peter would be the apostle to the gentiles). In Acts 21:24-26 Peter and James told Paul he had needed to set the record straight and tell them that he(paul) obeyed the law(Acts 21:24) instead of the rumor that he'd been saying that the law didn't matter AND what they should be teaching was that they should not have idols, eat meat with blood, not eat strangled meat, not have sexual immorality(Acts 21:25-26) and then after that James goes on to say how important it is for them to go on the Sabbath in their own towns and learn God's law. I have recently had a lot of questions about Paul and his authority and the fact that he never met Christ. Modern Christians are Pauline believers. Most will loose their minds and call you a heretic for asking questions about Paul and they put the words of Paul on a pedestal over Christ's without knowing it.I don't believe God will call me to account for ignoring Paul but I do believe He will call me to account for placing Paul's words above the very clear instructions of Christ. I thought this video was a very fair overview of HRM( I don't subscribe to that, but I do have serious questions about Paul and do think obeying the law(which includes the Sabbath) is crucial to understanding the heart of God and that faith without works(observance of God's law bc that is how God says we show Him love and it is also what Christ said) is dead faith. Works don't save but they are evidence of being saved through Christ. While there are a lot of deep deep differences between the different groups I thought you presented them with dignity in the same way you would if you were describing Judaism. I think it's really good when we ask questions. Iron sharpens iron. I do think, to my surprise, I was shocked at how much I did not know Paul's actual story, the conflicts they present to Christ and to God's word. When 2 Timothy says all scripture is inspired by God he is speaking of Torah only bc that was the only scripture that existed at the time. They would have never(not even Paul with his giant ego) would have considered his letters scripture. The Bereans were charged with fact checking and when we follow that scriptural standard that was set Paul doesn't make the cut. Honestly, people are more willing to overlook what Christ actually said than they are to criticize Paul. The Lord says we are to know His word and each will be held to account for it. The Way is narrow. Paul's way is really wide. Jesus said it's really narrow. Even if you decided to just set down the OT for a few minutes and read the red letter words of Christ only, pray and then filter it through what God actually says without Paul's influence(just run a what if scenario and see if the Holy Spirit leads you anywhere) then it's hard to unsee some stuff about Paul. I have found that the channel Jesus' Words Only has been a great resource for understanding some of these concepts better. It hasn't weakened my faith at all to ask these questions. Jesus said to his actually disciples(Paul wouldn't come on scene until 10 years after the resurrection) was to be alert and not be deceived for false teachers coming in his name, casting out demons, etc... He was warning them bc it was going to happen in their lifetime. Either Paul is your authority or Christ is. If all your arguments of HRM comes from Paul's mouth then maybe just question that and read more of Christ before completely shutting down the idea. A lot is riding on it and I believe you truly want to know God's truth and heart and desire to serve Him no matter what. I'm not willing to bank my eternal security on Paul especially when he contradicts his own conversion 4 different times in his own letters. Only the originals who met, walked with and were taught by Christ and were witnesses to His miracles. There's a reason why witnesses were so important to God and to the miracles of Christ. Funny thing all of those who knew Christ went to their deaths still confronting Paul about predestination and faith only. They never agreed. Love in Christ!
There's an interesting, supernatural, phenomenon I've noticed in my faith walk. When Jesus says things like eyes to see, and ears to hear....the only people that have the veil lifted, is people whose hearts truly SEEK HIM. Pray: Lord, I want YOUR truth, no matter what it looks like, even if it's different from what I think, different from what I've been taught, show me YOUR truth.
Amen. If you sincerely pray that, and are willing to change your life, HE WILL SHOW YOU. It's amazing!
When Jesus walked on the earth, teaching His disciples the purity of the faith... after He died, rose again, and ascended.... what did the First Century church look like? How did His disciples live? What did they believe? How did they practice their faith? There is a time in history before men in power had a chance to force change in the lives of Jesus's followers. Look at history and see how believers lived their faith in the first century compared to now.
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Adonai Echad
Amen
Great video. Romans 11 never says we are grafted into Israel. Israel cant be a branch and the Tree.
Jesus is the tree. Faith is how you get grafted on. The tree is a Hebraic tree (not a pagan Roman tree or a tree of a new religion) because Jesus was Jewish. It's not a whole new tree....Jesus did not start a new religion, he was the anticipated Jewish Messiah of the Jewish prophets.
Wrong !
@@WayofYahushua said the fake Yahushua. Cultist
*The tree in Romans 11 is Israel!* _Jeremiah 11:16-17 NIV The LORD called you _*_[Israel and Judah]_*_ a thriving olive tree with fruit beautiful in form. But with the roar of a mighty storm he will set it on fire, and its branches will be broken. (17) The LORD Almighty, who planted you, has decreed disaster for you, because the people of both _*_Israel and Judah_*_ have done evil and aroused my anger by burning incense to Baal._
👉The LORD called you a thriving olive tree👈
Romans 11:24 NASB For if you *[Gentiles]* were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree *[Israel and Judah]* , how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?
👉their own olive tree👈
Also, let's not forget Ephesians 2!
Ephesians 2:11-13/19 NKJV Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh-who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands- (12) that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. (13) But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. (19) Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
👉at that time you *[Gentiles]* were...aliens from the commonwealth of Israel👈
👉you *[Gentiles]* are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God *[AKA: Israel!]* 👈
Hebrew roots movement
@10:15, I personally do not believe anyone should be keeping Chanukah or Purim. These are not Gods feasts, these two are inventions of man, and disrupt the overall grand design of God.
Overall, I like your presentation, and I look forward to seeing more of your videos on this topic.
Peace
I think it's a good thing if it arrives at the typical local church. It's important to understand the Tanakh to appreciate the work of Christ and the message of the New Testament. Most churches I've been to recently don't even have Bibles under the seats, and they sing worldly contemporary song melodies with very ear friendly, "Jesus words" attached to them. Very disappointing experience for the Christian who holds scripture on a high level to be esteemed.
I can't help but notice that everything you said in this video is in line with what MUSLIMS say about Christians. What do Muslims say? That the trinity is not part of the original Christian doctrine. Many of the celebrations are pagan derived. That God cannot have a biological/literal son. That Christians are not following the teachings of Jesus from almost every perspective including dietary and ritualistic perspectives.
9:27 - You can add to those verses, Revelation 14:12. It is a fascinating connection with Mat 5:17
Is this group another Evangelical one or do they believe that the Messiah has not arrived yet?
Aaron HaKodesh in Fort Lauderdale Fl, does a great job as well.
Many of us are Sabbatarians. We are not Adventists. We keep The Sabbath. But not The Dietary Laws or The Jewish Civil Law, which we as Gentiles were never subject to. We call GOD by HIS NAME, YEHOVAH. JESUS'S NAME is actually YESHUA and we call HIM BY HIS GOD GIVEN NAME. Instead of Westernizing, Anglicizing THE NAME (HASHEM) in any way.. That's HIS HOLY NAME. Well ✅ my friend.
Did Yeshua come to make the Unclean animals clean or make unclean human beings clean? If it was unlawful to eat unclean animals before the cross, did it become lawful after the cross? The Law is not Jewish. It is a way of Life and standard of Living for Yahweh's people. Elohim is the same yesterday, today and for ever. HalleluYah.
Hebrew was a dead language for around a thousand years. The name Yeshua didn’t show up until sometime in the 1800s.
SEVENTH Day Adventist is the truest Protestant church
Adventists believe in salvation by faith through grace not works lol we keep all Ten Commandments because Jesus said “if you love me KEEP my commandments”
They came, stayed a few years, tried to turn everyone. They showed how they did some things. When they realized no one was turning the man sent our pastor a nasty email. Thats how he does. He insults by text or email.
so sad 😞
I made a really good positive comment about how ahead of its time the Torah was and the health benefits and how it teaches us how to love God others and ourselves and live long life and I think it was taken down, even though I said nothing negative or hostile against anyone. I wonder why?
Also Jesus fulfilled the priesthood, sacrifices and the need for a king with his death and resurrection and defeated the enemy who was preventing us to exercise the fullness of the law which we can successfully do now through the Holy Spirit!
Titus 1:10 For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. 11 They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. ---- 1 Timothy 1: 6 Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.
Titus is well known to be deutro-pauline- meaning that "someone" many hundreds of years later wrote "something" Paul's name pretending to be him for an agenda. This isn't even contested in modern theological circles. So if you want to put your trust in that random person rather than Christ's actual words...
@@Dragonfly20233 too funny, what are you even doing here? How did your Demons find this channel?
I thought his name was /is "I AM"
אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (’ehye ’ăšer ’ehye;) in context basically means “I exist) which contrasts to the idols and gods of Egypt that did not exist nor have any power.
The Patriarchs, and their wives and the prophets addressed the Father by name, their names often contained the Fathers name as well. They used the Fathers name when praying directly or when speaking to angelic representatives who delivered the Fathers words. The Father dwells in unapproachable light and often sent angels who stood in his presence.
He was known by his name. If you dig into the oldest literature in almost any ancient library you will find mentions of Yahuah. The ineffable name doctrine is new. This is why Yah’s name is replaced in your Bible. It’s in the source texts.
Exodus 6:3
3 “And I appeared to Aḇraham, to Yitsḥaq, and to Ya‛aqoḇ, as Ěl Shaddai. And by My Name, יהוה, was I not known to them?
Some translations make this verse a contradictory and illogical statement considering that even the women called on the Father by name prior to the Angel sent by the Father speaking to Moses.
Eve used YHWH’s name Genesis 4:1
1 And Aḏam knew Ḥawwah his wife, and she conceived and bore Qayin, and said, “I have gained a man, יהוה.”
Genesis 4:26
26 And to Shěth, to him also a son was born. And he called his name Enosh. Then it was begun to call on the Name of יהוה.e Footnote: eThe first record of “calling on the Name of יהוה.”
Genesis 9:26
26 And he said, “Blessed be יהוה, the Elohim of Shěm, and let Kena‛an become his servant.
Genesis 12:7-8
7 And יהוה appeared to Aḇram and said, “To your seed I give this land.” And he built there a slaughter-place to יהוה, who had appeared to him. 8 And from there he moved to the mountain east of Běyth Ěl, and he pitched his tent, with Běyth Ěl on the west and Ai on the east. And he built there a slaughter-place to יהוה, and called on the Name of יהוה.
Genesis 13:4
4 to the place of the slaughter-place which he had made there at first. And there Aḇram called on the Name of יהוה.
Genesis 14:22
22 But Aḇram said to the sovereign of Seḏom, “I have lifted my hand to יהוה, the Most High Ěl, the Possessor of the heavens and earth,
Genesis 15:2
2 And Aḇram said, “Master יהוה, what would You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eli‛ezer of Dammeseq?”
Genesis 15:7
7 And He said to him, “I am יהוה, who brought you out of Ur-kasdim, to give you this land to inherit it.”
Genesis 16:2
2 And Sarai said to Aḇram, “See, יהוה has kept me from bearing children. Please, go in to my female servant. It might be that I am built up by her.” And Aḇram listened to the voice of Sarai.
Genesis 16:5
5 And Sarai said to Aḇram, “My wrong be upon you! I gave my female servant into your bosom. And when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes. Let יהוה judge between you and me.”
Genesis 16:11-14
11 And the Messenger of יהוה said to her, “See, you are conceiving and bearing a son, and shall call his name Yishma‛ěl, because יהוה has heard your affliction. 12 “And he is to be a wild man, his hand against every one and every one’s hand against him, and dwell over against all his brothers.” 13 And she called the Name of יהוה who spoke to her, “You are the Ěl who sees,” for she said, “Even here have I seen after Him who sees me?” 14 That is why the well was called Be’ěr Laḥai Ro’i, see, it is between Qaḏěsh and Bereḏ.
And on and on. People called on Yah’s name. David used it in the Psalms. Messiah used his Fathers name.
Romans 10:12-16
12 Because there is no distinction between Yehuḏi and Greek, for the same Master of all is rich to all those calling upon Him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the Name of יהוה shall be saved.”c Jol 2:32. Footnote: cAct 2:21. 14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without one proclaiming? 15 And how shall they proclaim if they are not sent? As it has been written, “How pleasant are the feet of those who bring the Good News of peace, who bring the Good News of the good!” Isa 52:7. 16 However, not all obeyed the Good News. For Yeshayahu says, “יהוה, who has believed our report?” Isa 53:1.
John 3:35-36
35 “The Father loves the Son, and has given all into His hand. 36 “He who believes in the Son possesses everlasting life, but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of Elohim remains on him.”
The Father created us and saves us through his son. We are to trust and obey the son. The son is the prophet like Moses. To be a true teacher he could not add or subtract from the word of Elohim.
Yahuah is the ancient pronunciation, Yahweh is new but the Father knows when you pray and call on his name so do not worry. Ask the Father in the name of the son. He’ll answer. ❤
May you do a talk on "Patience" for Christians?
Gods church in the last days and a not a Sunday keeping church.
Revelation 14:12
“ Here is the patience of the saints, here are they who KEEP the commandments of God and have the TESTIMONY of Jesus Christ “
This was a very random subject to discuss 😢 we want to hear you share the gospel but this was a stretch.
I know.... However, sometimes we need to educate people to potentual dangers coming their way.
This group frightens me. They are seem really knowledgeable and have many points, I think this is heresy though. I think groups like this always try to point out hidden knowledge, but that’s a red flag
It's not 'hidden knowledge' at all :) It is laid out very clearly in your bible. You just have to read it within the historical context (1st century Jew) vs. through 2000 years of (non-Hebraic) tradition. It takes a bit of honest research to get you there.
And you would be wrong !
Sunday is not the lords day keeping sunday and ignoring Gods law is what should frighten you
What are your thoughts on Paul's animal sacrifices given at the Temple in Acts 21:26?
Reread the chapters 21 carefully. Paul didn’t sacrifice an animal.
@@thedowntoearthchristian What do you think James was asking him to do in Acts 21:23-24 ? And then Paul "purified himself" in order to enter the Temple. Then also announced when the "sacrifice would be offered for each one of them." I am not sure what stance you think James is taking with Paul here? And Paul, the bold and brave apostle who stood up to Peter didn't argue with James about offering a sacrifice. So, what is James asking Paul to do here in order to prove that Paul still keeps the Torah?
It's interesting how hypocrites know what the word not means in Matthew 5:18, but don't understand what the word not means in Jeremiah 31:31-32; Hebrews 8:8-9. And Matthew 5:43 in the Law given through Moses in Old Testament Judaism is not Matthew 5:44 in the law of Christ in New Testament Christianity, based on Hebrews 7:11-12; Luke 5:36-39.
Thank you for this message. My spirit is telling me this movement is not something for me. I keep referring back to a wolf! It is good to know what is "out there" to watch for. Sometimes there are things that can come to your path that would be "sneaky" and you get caught up and the will have to "re-group" or "re-set".
As far as I know, FFOZ does *not* teach that all Christians should live as Jews. The Apostles view the Torah as having God's authority relevant to their time as evidenced in their citations of it in their letters. However, their application does not in any wise require Gentiles to take up uniquely Jewish observances.
The Torah is God's law and instruction not Judaism.
@@joanmcsweeney5547 that instruction says "Abraham believed, and it was credited to him as righteousness." That instruction does not require Gentiles with a saving faith in the G-d of Israel to convert to become Israeli. In fact, it provides for their present and designates them as "Gerim."
@professoryerger1196 OK, you're confusing the political state of Israel with the actual people of Israel. Israel is not a place, it is a people. When you believe on the death, burial, and resurrection of The Son, you are then grafted into the people of Israel, God's people, the elect, the few who were chosen (Romans 11). You are no longer a gentile (heathen, of the nation's, not in covenant. Does not mean non jew) but a Hebrew (means to cross over). There are some in the land but Israelis are not His people and He is not a polygamist and has two brides. There was, is and always will be one bride and the promise given to her in Jeremiah 31, Ezekiel 36, no gentiles included. You have to cross over to be His.
@@professoryerger1196 actually if you go back into the originally text the way it reads is without the commas in Hebrew rather than in the Greek translation and then into English it has a completely different meaning. Jesus Word's Only covers this. Commas don't exist in Hebrew but they certainly do change the meaning of things in English.
I have really enjoyed your videos and learning about all these different topics u have done! I just recently found out about this movement from a friend and was going to start looking into it because it sounded questionable.. I ended up going to your channel to watch some of the videos u had posted and u did this video. Well that’s God right there.. So anyway what I really wanted to say is… I just found out about another group of people who are saying the Bible supports the earth being flat. I am very interested to hear your take on this topic. Hope u have a wonderful day!
While I do not pretend to understand why some believers insist on living under Mosaic law I think a lot of people seek the wrong thing. Scripture tells us to seek the Kingdom of God. I do believe Christianity tends to throw the baby out with the bath water. As we try to shed the law we also shed things that help to keep us focused on the Kingdom of God. Example the feasts should be significant to Christians, each remain us of exactly what Jesus did or will do or fulfilled. Passover for example is certainly a visualization of Jesus paying the price for our sin. Pentecost the celebration of the harvest, certainly reflects on how the Holy Spirit harvests believers and indwelling within them. Likewise the Mosiac social laws certainly pertain to us today and are found in most social law we have today. People need to understand where these laws came from and who first established them. Therefore they are not open to discussion or the belief society has changed so these laws do not/ should not pertain to us today.
We should focus on Jesus not his shadow.
@@thedowntoearthchristian And that was a poor response, but it should be expected.
If one focus's on Jesus he will walk as he walked. 1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. 1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Look closer into what his commandments were
@@44thala49 How so?
One name you haven't given is Christian.
Are you a Hebrew Roots follower?
Yes, gone this direction since 2023. I feel like a 2nd grader and am mindful to be meek, humble, lowly, loving.@@thedowntoearthchristian
Thanks for this teaching. I have spent time attempting to give guidance to several members that have been tempted to follow this teaching.
They're not being tempted, they're being guided. Be careful. They want to obey the Father's commands, statutes, and right rulings that He told us to keep and guard over 280 times from Genesis to Revelation. If Jesus is The Word and no one is drawn to Him but by Father and your members are being drawn.....common, put this together now.....and you want to stop them? This seems familiar to when the Pharisees believed Jesus cast out demons by demonic power. Again, caution!
Why would you do that? Jesus says in Matthew 5:17-19 That until heaven and earth pass away not one jot or tittle shall pass away from the Law and the Prophets. Then the next passage which so often is ignored, says that whoever breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches men to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, BUT whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. So since heaven and earth are still here take Jesus at His Word and encourage men to follow the commandments of God! Which is fully following Jesus who is the whole Word made flesh. The most terrifying Scripture to modern day Christian believers should be Matthew 7:21-23 paraphrasing here, please read it for yourself and test everything to the Word of God…so again Jesus talking here, not everyone who says Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven, BUT those who are doing my Fathers will. ( which is keeping His Commandments) Then these people say didn’t I prophesied in your Name, cast out demons and do other mighty works in your Name? Then Jesus tells them I never knew you, depart from me you who work lawlessness. (People not keeping His Laws). I don’t know about you, but I have never cast out a demon or prophesied, so this should be alarming to someone not keeping the Law of God. If the whole purpose of man is to follow His Commandments (Ecc. 12:13) is this no longer true? If the Law of God was meant to bless us and be good for us, why would He take them away from us after the cross? See Deut 11:26-27, Psalm 119, Prov 8:32, Matt 5:6, Matt 5:10, Luke 11:28, Rev 22:14 plus so many others…Jesus was not an American who went to theological seminary, it seems like it would be wise to question everything taught by man and test everything it to the whole Word of God.
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@lesliek5112 You didn't even finish quoting that verse.
@@joanmcsweeney5547You are one clueless individual
Im from indonesia.
A neighbor family are the first Messianic followers I have encountered. Saturday Sabbath, strictly Vegan but when I presented 1Timothy 4 1-5 they dismiss it as New Testament. If you take the life and Death of Jesus Christ out of Christianity what do you have?
Slavery under the law.
@@thedowntoearthchristian Wow, slavery under the LAW. I follow the moral code under the LAW; therefore, I don't sleep with men, other men's wives or molest children. And you call that slavery?! The more you speak, the less I respect you as a man!
If they're Messianic, then Saturday Sabbath makes sense, which would allow them to properly evangelize to their brethren. Veganism, that sounds like a personal choice and not religious, unless they gave you a religious reason, did they?
@@thedowntoearthchristianslave to sin then?
@@HAChrist Yes. Funny is they see eating animal products as Sin but the raise chickens, pigs and goats to sell as food.
Yeah, that's a fairly good summary of Hebrew Roots. However, gentiles are not required nor can they properly follow the Holy Torah. They can glean from it, but it's impossible to follow it. Only a pious Jew can follow it like Mary the mother of Messiah, and Zechariah and Elizabeth, etc. Basically, you have to be taught from an early age within a righteous home. Gentiles today, spend their time watching Hollywood movies, TV programming, pourn and tiktok to amuse their minds. As the saying goes, you can't teach an old dog, new tricks. Or better said, a dog will return to its vomit.
It's impossible for Gentiles because they are too attached to the world. They are the lukewarm and have not fully submitted to Father's ways or His covenant. They are very easy especially if you have a heart after Him.
@@joanmcsweeney5547 Right, and that's the key, a heart after Him! They just create their own idol and god instead to fit their lusts of the flesh per 1 John 2 v15
Pretty high and mighty sounding. I guess there is no hope for us lowly gentiles.
@@thedowntoearthchristian Only lowly gentiles can understand like the Canaanite woman who Jesus called a 'dog'. She had great faith, since she knew she only deserved the crumbs from the master's table. It's extremely rare to meet a lowly gentile in the 21st century, they're actually high minded, believing they're kings and queens with heavenly anointings. But Christ say's in the book of Revelation, they are poor and wretched.
@thedowntoearthchristian you're either His or you're not, you are either of His covenanted people or you're not. The promise was given and made to His people, Israel. There is no spiritual israel and physical Israel, then biblical Israel. There has always been and always will be one and you get to be part of it. Did you know gentile does not mean non Jewish? It means of the nations, a heathen, uncovenanted. All 12 tribes are not Jewish. Look to who the promises where made to? names are on new Jerusalem,? who does the dragon pursue? What songs does His people sing in Revelation? You cannot be a gentile and a believer. You guys throw around being grafted in all the time ,but do you really believe it or understand it? No sir, you're problem is not with us Bible keepers. You're problem is with scripture itself. You still have time to reconsider your presuppositions.
The most important part that was ignored is PRAYER AND FASTING. When a true follower of YHWH hears something new they immediately set at least 3 days apart to fast and pray about wether the thing they heard is true or not. Not from the church's nor ourself do we seek truth, but from YHWH's viewpoint.
Read Acts 17:11
@thedowntoearthchristian I have watched MANY of these videos against Hebrew Roots, Hebrew Israelite teachings and I have NEVER seen anyone say they fasted and prayed about the information that's presented. Yes a Berean is someone that studies the scriptures to see if what's said is true (modern day spiritual Berean). Even with reading scriptures, it's true. I don't see why Christians feel the need to tear down what YHWH is building just to hold to your traditions of man. If I were you I would examine closely what's said(seems like you have to a point) then if you are still on the fence, pray and fast on it and receive the word straight from the spirit of YHWH. then you will know for yourself, not just because you heard this or that. I promise,YHWH is building up a remnant for himself. It looks different from what others expected (just as Yeshua looked different from what the leaders expected in His day). I'm praying you get a true revelation straight from Heaven
@@thedowntoearthchristian please don't crucify YHWH's remnant because you don't understand what we are doing. Revelation 12: 17 explains what YHWHs remnant is... those that keep the testamony of Yeshua and the commandments given by Moses.
Yep it’s a cult…