KHM... KHM one thing you maybe didnt heard about they deleted john statue from map he made and didnt done anythng else with it john is troling in discord server about "one game who is ""inspiring"" from other games too much" the only thing in TDS what remind about johnroblox is skin on militant and videos about TDS in john chanel you sure they still a friends ?
@@user-ds5co9pq4p copyrighting killing mechanic? Does that means the other game such as cod etc should ask them first? That's crazy copyrighting common idea
I like how everyone think that the devs John were so friendly with all these years turned on him the second he made his own game, like I doubt there that much of vultures
people keep complaining about one game copying the other when in the end they are gonna be playing both because they'll get bored of one after three matches
The problem is not whether or not TDS copied, (they undoubtably did), it is the lack of credit that TDS gives to the original creators. John brushed over this a couple years ago in one of the videos he did regarding the debate. He mentioned that the tensions were high between Below and Plan3t because Plan3t simply wanted the recognition he deserved while Below refused to give credit. Also the arguments that BTD is the first tower defense game and all other tower defense games need to bow down to it is absolutely ludicrous. With this same style of thinking, one could say Space Invaders (look it up) is the first tower defense game. Then you could argue that Rampart (look it up) is the first tower defense game. Then you could follow the timeline to Gem Tower Defense, then Flash Element TD; The list goes on and on all the way to modern day tower defense games such as TDX, TDS, and BTD6. There were plenty more games both before and after BTD so the argument that it was the first is 100% invalid.
@@the2050th this isnt a competition the ''this game was first people'' are just dumb overall thinking a first game of a genre is original and rest is copies the only reason they think that way is because issues about tds copying tb and tdx though its overall a retarded mindset different games in same or similar genres can add unique takes new original content and so much about competition its not true at all considering the fact tds is overall the most popular td in roblox game that has a very active fanbase despite that game literally doesnt even have their own ideas most of the time they usually steal dirrectly steal its not inspiring its just slightly different keyword slightly the fact they also dont give any credits and overall ignore the issue completly proves they dont even care about it and expect it to be shrugged off eventually
yea bloons TD 6 is not original and tdx and tds are not copying themselves BECAUSE they just may have similar ideas but seriously y'all yapping that they have same features and similar towers
I'm not sure how related this is to the video, but I think it's worth pointing out that part of the reason TDS surpassed Tower Battles' popularity so easily, even with the blatant copying in the designs in the early days of TDS (which haven't strayed away extremely far), is because Planet hasn't really updated Tower Battles very often at all. People tend to jump on the "lazy" bandwagon when it comes to these sorts of developers for these games, but a handful of years ago planet mentioned the lack of updates/time for him to update being from a bunch of IRL stuff, at some point mentioning that he was double majoring engineering and psych at a university, and while time has passed since he brought that up (which makes me think he's finished with that now), I wouldn't put it past him to be focusing more on other personal stuff as well. He even mentioned that the success Tower Battles had was able to pay for his college tuition. (I think planet's also mentioned motivation being a big problem when it's come to updating tower battles, but I'm not 100% sure)
In fact, TDS copies, but now it takes existing things and does it in a different way, for example the mercenary base that has the same barracks system with several changes like the plane that brings the mercenaries, the riot that rushes and other things.
and you have to put it near the track for it to work and if you want the dmg buff, you have to put it in your main defense which can take up a lot of space but is still really good for mid-late game
just wanna mention how they made the pursuit rework nearly identical to TDX's helicopter, going so far as to giving it 2 paths (very original idea i know)
This "copying" thing is a really dumb idea, i am also making a TD game and taking inspirations from other games (Ultrakill mostly), people just hate a lot of the competition like TDS and TDX even tho we all know that the BTD franchise is the beggining of the popularity of the TD genre.
I agree with you, people are gonna be so mad at you just for taking an idea of a guy with a gun or just a spawner building. Even if they have different stats or mechanics. They are gonna see you as COPYING just for that ;-;
all of you actual rapscallions saying ''but BTD first'' when BTD has basically nothing in common with any roblox tower defense except that there are upgrades and you defend base from evil guys
@@HeavyOnMethenamine tf is you on about bruh, btd was NOT the first ever tower defense game 😂 it's just one of the older/popular ones. The oldest td game is actually "Rampart"
The amount of comments I see that say they copied is wild. Some fans just think that their favorite game invented people holding grenades or guns, it’s just sad
They did tho, they literally got every tower and decided to make original ones after they finished. The gameplay is still different but the concept of the towers is not.
Copying is fine when the owner already knows but does not care. But these people are just fighting each other for no reason for tds copying tdx even tho john doesnt care much. But plan3t does when tds copied before... (All he wanted was recognition atleast)
okay but with the armoured factory vs military base stuff you got to remember that military base was created first, and they officially leaked the rework first. don't even get me started on "oooh but they did the teaser 2 years ago" well with that logic, TDX copied because military base was released 5 years ago. ppl don't even take 10 seconds to learn the history of the 2 towers and they js look at one and say "yep that's a copy".
Yeah, and they would never do something and instantly show it to public, military base was probably done already before they leaked first image + off topic, john on livestream said that refractor and war machine towers are done but will come in around 2025 and we didn't get really much leaks about them, so we can't say that first leak date is when they started to work at that thing
Yeah, sadly the td game follow the second path is more popular rn. Like look at TTD and Anime Defense, they are more players than TDS and TDX who follow the first path.
@@PhatTran-nw9ri TTD is just because skibidi toilet is popular and all the kids are playing their game, and Anime Defenders is just filled with a bunch of afk bots gambling. TDS and TDX have much more loyal players and a fanbase that actually play the game because its fun, not because it is based off of their favorite tv show. If TTD changed their branding to something different rather than skbidi toilet but actually improved the game all around, it would actually KILL its whole fanbase because the fanbase is based off of skibidi toilet watchers. Or, if skibidi toilet ends after a while and the game has no more updates, the players will slowly but surely decline while TDS and TDX keep going up because TDS will constantly have updates since it's not based on something that would eventually end, and TDX is still a newly released game and has a bright future ahead of it to continue growing.
I think we can all agree that everything is awesome and everything is cool when you're part of a team. So TDS and TDX should collab, then we would be living our dream
The scenes from those movies that you picked were really well done, They clearly linked to the words you were saying. You clearly know how to analyse movies.
love the amount of lego movie clips also I think copying is good, It means your work is popular enough for other people to admire you not saying its good, but knowing people copy you is good
Inspired is one thing, copying is something else. Copying i feel like is just stealing it. If you use a similar idea thats fine if you change it, but if you just take it then that's my issue.
I remember the drone tower from the dead TD game. And then I saw a copy of it in TDX. That means they copied this game because drones weren't even invented yet.
Yes it is a bad thing. Below practically acts like the other games don’t exist, never giving any credit to them, this is mostly copying from tds, but even if you argue it’s inspiration they still should’ve given credit, but they don’t.
Dude I fucking love your videos style, honestly best TDX youtuber out there For the argument everything copying/inspiring each other but there is obvious differences HOWEVER too much doing that start getting attention of people's eyes
Tds main deal was the great events but today it is just reworking sim and when they copied tb they tried to overcome them by cheap diffirences while tdx added way more original things and collabed with tb
The thing about if tower battles wouldn’t exist does feel not true simply cause of the much more popular BTD series and how it would most likely give inspiration
TDX and TDS developers are just making same updates and release them at the same time to make community have WW3. and then they watch it happen. and they have fun.
I don't support modern TD games on Roblox as much anymore specifically because of the copying from other games being so blatantly obvious. Old TDS was great, it was a breath of fresh air after Planet hadn't updated TB as much as before. Now it took on it's own style and new mechanics, but that doesn't make up for the "copying" of other game mechanics. For example, TDS has taken several ideas from TDX and TB seemingly without credit. Now who knows, Below might be in contact with John or Planet, but that doesn't excuse the several ideas taken from each game without credit. Aside from the similarities, I believe all 3 of these games are in it's own league. Yes, I might have just dogged on TDS for it's blatant stealing of ideas, but at least they're trying to step away from the original game mechanics that had been taken from Planet at first (ex. rebalancing towers and reworking them to work differently to the TB counterpart). That's very respectable.
honestly both communities will go to war with each other over everything, heck the devs basically have to make every new piece of content radically different to avoid it i don't wanna sacrifice quality for originality
Quick question, if TDX and TDS were to Collab what would they even do? What skins, towers, enemies, Bosses, maps, and game modes would they add? What will both games do
theres a clear diffefence beetween copying and inspiration, copying is a 1 to 1 copy of the same thing while inspiration is making the concept of the thing u got inspired for but changing how it works, different from the original, tds is a 1 to 1 copy of tb and you cannot deny that, most of the stuff they have is taken from tb, theres nothing wrong with using their towers as long as they work differently and have a different design
Yo guys,did yall forget that john worked for tds? Like actually people arguing about 2 games that are the same genre,the creators legit ARE FRIENDS and SHARE UPDATES WITH EACH OTHER 😔
I think games copying each other can lead to newer / more polished versions of the those games. TDS (before tdx), was TB but more further polished, and in a more childish style to appeal to a larger audience, which also let it grow bigger and ultimately becoming the better game.
tbh, its more of a inspirantion over a copy one another. Tds nuke only dose 50 K dmg while Tdx dose umm inf I guess??? And also fun fact CTD had perk and "power ups" since 2020 while people where angry at tds copying tdx with power ups. They aren't even the same thing, its more of a concept. Tdx dosen't have attack buff perk or tds don't really have rappid airstrike perk, people just keep looking for a way to make war. That's what make us human so normal??? (Edit: holy crap we got someone who actualy respect CTD before gta5 !! Thank you so much for including it. It really means a lot for our community!!!!)
i love the commander tower (from tower battles)
Hi
Wasn't expecting you to be here
ok
john what the fuck
John please add more 2x events more often 🙏🙏🙏
The Fact that below and john are actually still friends and discuss updates together, while the communities fighting like it's ww3
tower battles. all I am gonna say
Same thing tds was also working on every thing since 2023
KHM... KHM
one thing you maybe didnt heard about
they deleted john statue from map he made and didnt done anythng else with it
john is troling in discord server about "one game who is ""inspiring"" from other games too much"
the only thing in TDS what remind about johnroblox is skin on militant and videos about TDS in john chanel
you sure they still a friends ?
@@glich_65what John statue
@@blizxard just john when maded one map left stone statue of his skin thats all
I can imagine john and below just looking down at both communities while smirking
5:44 I heard the Earthmovers warcry in my head as soon the words “war without reason“ came up, I believe i have ultrakill braintrot.
WAR WITHOUT REASON RAAAHHHHHH!!!! 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
ALARM BREAKCORE GO🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
BEEEP! BEEEEEP! BEEEEEEP!
1000-THR Earthmover said "War, a war without reason to continue" truly most ultrakill sigma moment P rank
Benjagaming
i remember someone saying patient 0 copied predator for having a cannon arm
well in that case predator copied the raider boss bc he also had an ability to kill ur tower /s
@@user-ds5co9pq4p copyrighting killing mechanic? Does that means the other game such as cod etc should ask them first? That's crazy copyrighting common idea
@@bendysama1728 it was meant to be sarcastic
nah eh
@@bendysama1728 FOOL IMAGINE NOT KNOWING THE MEANING OF SARCASM REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE INTERNET
I like how everyone think that the devs John were so friendly with all these years turned on him the second he made his own game, like I doubt there that much of vultures
Tower Battles has units... THIS MEANS THEY COPIED THE BATTLE CATS GUYS!!!!!!
TDS COPIED TOWER BATTLES CUZ THEY HAVE GUYS WITH GUNS IN THEIR GAME!!! (I know its a joke lol)
Hey, go play The Battle Bricks or something
@@TouchGrasslol777 right, not its inspiration! Jokes aside both games good
😡😡😡
wait. THEY HAVE WORDS SO THEY ARE ALL COPIED FROM THE DICTIONARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
The first couple minutes I had a heart attack
Same
I’ve seen way too many people complain about intermediate mode being a copy even if it was promised to us like a year ago
people keep complaining about one game copying the other when in the end they are gonna be playing both because they'll get bored of one after three matches
Along with all the others as well
The problem is not whether or not TDS copied, (they undoubtably did), it is the lack of credit that TDS gives to the original creators. John brushed over this a couple years ago in one of the videos he did regarding the debate. He mentioned that the tensions were high between Below and Plan3t because Plan3t simply wanted the recognition he deserved while Below refused to give credit.
Also the arguments that BTD is the first tower defense game and all other tower defense games need to bow down to it is absolutely ludicrous. With this same style of thinking, one could say Space Invaders (look it up) is the first tower defense game. Then you could argue that Rampart (look it up) is the first tower defense game. Then you could follow the timeline to Gem Tower Defense, then Flash Element TD; The list goes on and on all the way to modern day tower defense games such as TDX, TDS, and BTD6. There were plenty more games both before and after BTD so the argument that it was the first is 100% invalid.
agreed
Im glad theres actual other people recognizing issues properly
they need to pin this
The "This game was first people" are probably people who don't know what competition is. It allows us to get better things.
@@the2050th this isnt a competition the ''this game was first people'' are just dumb overall thinking a first game of a genre is original and rest is copies the only reason they think that way is because issues about tds copying tb and tdx though its overall a retarded mindset different games in same or similar genres can add unique takes new original content and so much about competition its not true at all considering the fact tds is overall the most popular td in roblox game that has a very active fanbase despite that game literally doesnt even have their own ideas most of the time they usually steal dirrectly steal its not inspiring its just slightly different keyword slightly the fact they also dont give any credits and overall ignore the issue completly proves they dont even care about it and expect it to be shrugged off eventually
Tds community when they forgot who John was:
tower defense after copying real life war but making the enemies underpowered
yea bloons TD 6 is not original and tdx and tds are not copying themselves BECAUSE they just may have similar ideas but seriously y'all yapping that they have same features and similar towers
@@CoolEggsWatch Bloons TD 6 is original, the series goes as far as 2006 when it was created. And Tower Defense is a Genre
Nah bloons td 6 is not orignal cause there was tower defense games before it
I'm not sure how related this is to the video, but I think it's worth pointing out that part of the reason TDS surpassed Tower Battles' popularity so easily, even with the blatant copying in the designs in the early days of TDS (which haven't strayed away extremely far), is because Planet hasn't really updated Tower Battles very often at all. People tend to jump on the "lazy" bandwagon when it comes to these sorts of developers for these games, but a handful of years ago planet mentioned the lack of updates/time for him to update being from a bunch of IRL stuff, at some point mentioning that he was double majoring engineering and psych at a university, and while time has passed since he brought that up (which makes me think he's finished with that now), I wouldn't put it past him to be focusing more on other personal stuff as well. He even mentioned that the success Tower Battles had was able to pay for his college tuition. (I think planet's also mentioned motivation being a big problem when it's come to updating tower battles, but I'm not 100% sure)
In fact, TDS copies, but now it takes existing things and does it in a different way, for example the mercenary base that has the same barracks system with several changes like the plane that brings the mercenaries, the riot that rushes and other things.
and you have to put it near the track for it to work and if you want the dmg buff, you have to put it in your main defense which can take up a lot of space but is still really good for mid-late game
I would call it inspiration but yeah
its called inspiration but yeah, good point
Ok guys if I add a sky to my game im copying!1!1
I'll be honest here, if you couldn't copy any ideas, then we would run out of games quickly
1:39 tdx didn’t come up with spawner towers, power up’s, the word intermediate, or towers that lay traps.
just wanna mention how they made the pursuit rework nearly identical to TDX's helicopter, going so far as to giving it 2 paths (very original idea i know)
This is probably the most based video ive seen in a minute
(Now lets watch the 9 year olds whine and complain about niche things for 39 minutes)
HIII I'M SUCH A BIG FAN!!
@@rrounderr ❤❤❤ love yours too
The fact the video is actually 7 minutes
This "copying" thing is a really dumb idea, i am also making a TD game and taking inspirations from other games (Ultrakill mostly), people just hate a lot of the competition like TDS and TDX even tho we all know that the BTD franchise is the beggining of the popularity of the TD genre.
I agree with you, people are gonna be so mad at you just for taking an idea of a guy with a gun or just a spawner building. Even if they have different stats or mechanics. They are gonna see you as COPYING just for that ;-;
all of you actual rapscallions saying ''but BTD first'' when BTD has basically nothing in common with any roblox tower defense except that there are upgrades and you defend base from evil guys
take ONE look at warden from TDS and compare it to enforcer from tower battles
@@MaoZedowner bruh btd was the first ever tower defense game,without it,the concept of tower defense wouldn't exist
@@HeavyOnMethenamine tf is you on about bruh, btd was NOT the first ever tower defense game 😂 it's just one of the older/popular ones. The oldest td game is actually "Rampart"
John roblox and below: eating popcorn while watching the chaos of the tdx vs tds war
The amount of comments I see that say they copied is wild. Some fans just think that their favorite game invented people holding grenades or guns, it’s just sad
They did tho, they literally got every tower and decided to make original ones after they finished. The gameplay is still different but the concept of the towers is not.
People seriously thought a td game that came out on november 2023 invented consumables (tdx), that has existed WAY before that
@@isabelcastillo514 they think that cuz they were released around the same time
@@isabelcastillo514 example being btd6
@@Thetornadoexpert yup
Copying is fine when the owner already knows but does not care. But these people are just fighting each other for no reason for tds copying tdx even tho john doesnt care much. But plan3t does when tds copied before... (All he wanted was recognition atleast)
Man, I just love this video because of the lego clips, brings me a lot of memories...
without copying, making something new is a mess, and mess gives you problems
Good example: Hardcore mode at release 🙂
5:42 ULTRAKILL MENTIONED RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
judgement?
BEEEEEENNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNN
oh god here comes the ultrakill sleeper agents
oh wait, im one :)
PREPARE THYSELF
@@TheLethal THY END IS NOW
no is the big machine fight music name, “war without reason”
im glad ctd is getting a bit of praise and recognition
fr same
4:07 - 5:41 genuinely amazing and well-written segment. Y’all desperately need to hear this
okay but with the armoured factory vs military base stuff you got to remember that military base was created first, and they officially leaked the rework first. don't even get me started on "oooh but they did the teaser 2 years ago" well with that logic, TDX copied because military base was released 5 years ago. ppl don't even take 10 seconds to learn the history of the 2 towers and they js look at one and say "yep that's a copy".
Yeah, and they would never do something and instantly show it to public, military base was probably done already before they leaked first image + off topic, john on livestream said that refractor and war machine towers are done but will come in around 2025 and we didn't get really much leaks about them, so we can't say that first leak date is when they started to work at that thing
People forget patrol from Tower Battles
@@JerryZhang-j8z what about real life world 1 tank
5:43 ultrakill caught in Remi's video
The end brooooo
if the tower didnt battle, we wouldn't have a tower battles
Beautiful editing remi, also congrats on 7k!
Thanks Dino!
Love u dino
Theres 3 types of td games:
- 1. Inspire and make something great
- 2. MILK THE SH OUT OF A POPULAR THING
- 3. Copy something but with a twist
Ttd is the second one
You forgot the gambling in the second one
Yeah, sadly the td game follow the second path is more popular rn. Like look at TTD and Anime Defense, they are more players than TDS and TDX who follow the first path.
@@PhatTran-nw9ri TTD is just because skibidi toilet is popular and all the kids are playing their game, and Anime Defenders is just filled with a bunch of afk bots gambling. TDS and TDX have much more loyal players and a fanbase that actually play the game because its fun, not because it is based off of their favorite tv show. If TTD changed their branding to something different rather than skbidi toilet but actually improved the game all around, it would actually KILL its whole fanbase because the fanbase is based off of skibidi toilet watchers. Or, if skibidi toilet ends after a while and the game has no more updates, the players will slowly but surely decline while TDS and TDX keep going up because TDS will constantly have updates since it's not based on something that would eventually end, and TDX is still a newly released game and has a bright future ahead of it to continue growing.
5:43 heard an alarm immediately
I think we can all agree that everything is awesome and everything is cool when you're part of a team. So TDS and TDX should collab, then we would be living our dream
EVERYTHING IS AWESOMEE!!!
@@rrounderr EVERYTHING IS COOL
That would be peak tower defense
@@the2050thWHEN YOUR PART OF THE TEAM
Would rather have any event other than collab with tds
THIS IS HOW IT WAS MEANT TO HAVE ENDED.
A WAR WITHOUT REASON.
i luv ultrakill :3
You opened my eyes bro thanks
The scenes from those movies that you picked were really well done, They clearly linked to the words you were saying. You clearly know how to analyse movies.
TB is like the grandfather of the category, and the modern games are the children of the family
BTD: am I a joke to you?
(I KNOW YOU MEAN TB IS THE GRANDFATHER OF ALL ROBLOX TD GAMES, DONT YOU WORRY MATE)
you shouldnt have compared this with pepsi and coke, they are legit the same thing, couldve done something like coke and sprite or smth
Had to include my goat BenDenn 🙏
And in the end.. it was all the War Without a reason..
war without reason -song made by ultrakill
My urge to argue is boiling inside of me but, I can acccept this video. Thank you 😌
John and below are friends, and also competitors
And the community only sees the second part
Yeah. That's how stupid they are sadly
From "is copying a bad thing" to "wich game has more children"
love the amount of lego movie clips
also I think copying is good, It means your work is popular enough for other people to admire you
not saying its good, but knowing people copy you is good
Inspired is one thing, copying is something else. Copying i feel like is just stealing it. If you use a similar idea thats fine if you change it, but if you just take it then that's my issue.
I remember the drone tower from the dead TD game. And then I saw a copy of it in TDX. That means they copied this game because drones weren't even invented yet.
cant wait for this to get seen by nearly all the tds communities but then throw it away and continue arguing
the fact that Below and John watching their communitys literally fighting like if its WW3
The last 20 seconds traumatized me
Really like the use of the lego movie clips for this video
Yes it is a bad thing. Below practically acts like the other games don’t exist, never giving any credit to them, this is mostly copying from tds, but even if you argue it’s inspiration they still should’ve given credit, but they don’t.
Finally a new video hopefully its good
Dude I fucking love your videos style, honestly best TDX youtuber out there
For the argument everything copying/inspiring each other but there is obvious differences HOWEVER too much doing that start getting attention of people's eyes
5:42
TDS x TDX players: Hmm maybe its true war without reason?
Ultrakill fans: NO WAY, IT'S THAT ULTRAKILL REFERENCE?!
im watching this 7 minuites after the video was made
Love ur ost taste man goated video👍
I've never even heard the marketing towards children argument that was such a jumpscare lol
Tds main deal was the great events but today it is just reworking sim and when they copied tb they tried to overcome them by cheap diffirences while tdx added way more original things and collabed with tb
Whenever I see TDS and TDX do something similar, I just think a collab is happening in a year or smth- WAIT 2024 IS ALMOST OVER?!?!
The thing about if tower battles wouldn’t exist does feel not true simply cause of the much more popular BTD series and how it would most likely give inspiration
Congratulations on 7k subscribers, you deserve it, now beat wave 200 in endless😈
5:42 war without what?!
Well done video though ;)
You aren't just the chef, you ARE the kitchen!
TDX and TDS developers are just making same updates and release them at the same time to make community have WW3. and then they watch it happen. and they have fun.
I don't support modern TD games on Roblox as much anymore specifically because of the copying from other games being so blatantly obvious. Old TDS was great, it was a breath of fresh air after Planet hadn't updated TB as much as before. Now it took on it's own style and new mechanics, but that doesn't make up for the "copying" of other game mechanics. For example, TDS has taken several ideas from TDX and TB seemingly without credit. Now who knows, Below might be in contact with John or Planet, but that doesn't excuse the several ideas taken from each game without credit. Aside from the similarities, I believe all 3 of these games are in it's own league. Yes, I might have just dogged on TDS for it's blatant stealing of ideas, but at least they're trying to step away from the original game mechanics that had been taken from Planet at first (ex. rebalancing towers and reworking them to work differently to the TB counterpart). That's very respectable.
i cant believe jack in the box copied remi
man i sure do hope that mr freeze guy does not come here and spam all the comments with "tdx bad tds Good" like let people like what they like man
Bonus chapter was crazy
Although tower battles is the grandfather of tower defense games on Roblox everyone can agree that BTD pioneered tower defense game as a whole
Btd 6 is still the most unique tower defense
Btd5
Nah bro anime td pioneered it frrrr
BTD has close to nothing in common with tower battles
For you people I’m talking about the bloons tower defense games as a whole
I love how paradoxum and John are friendly and the fanbases r starting a war 🤣
as they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
5:43 IS THAT ULTRAKILL REFRENCE!1!1!1!1!1!1!
Doomspire defense getting recognition lets go
truly
anyway, I want a TD game that have breakcore as they OST
honestly both communities will go to war with each other over everything, heck the devs basically have to make every new piece of content radically different to avoid it i don't wanna sacrifice quality for originality
i more of see it as tower battles gave the idea, tds expanded and popularized it and caused its genre to flourish
Ah yes, people yapping about TDX and TDS.
Quick question, if TDX and TDS were to Collab what would they even do? What skins, towers, enemies, Bosses, maps, and game modes would they add? What will both games do
@@bruh_nke5533 mayb minigunner and juggernaut 😅
What about Calamity x Void Reaver?
Both of them would be sick to see in collab.
I WILL ALWAYS WATCH YOUR VIDEOS
Remi on his documentary arc
he finally posted!!
WAR WITHOUT REASONN?? DID BRO JUST REFERENCE ULTRAKILL
theres a clear diffefence beetween copying and inspiration, copying is a 1 to 1 copy of the same thing while inspiration is making the concept of the thing u got inspired for but changing how it works, different from the original, tds is a 1 to 1 copy of tb and you cannot deny that, most of the stuff they have is taken from tb, theres nothing wrong with using their towers as long as they work differently and have a different design
its not a 1 to 1 copy well its similar but the towers have different gimmick
i love how its actually 7 minutes
For the last part of the video, the simplest answer is, who has been around for longer to build a bigger playerbase?😊
5:42 A WAR WITHOUT WHAT NOW????
The fact it ends on 7 minutes
I can’t focus cause the assassination classroom music in the background is making me tear up
Someone finally got it 🙏😭
@@rrounderr last episode is depressing
Its also worth mentioning that TB took alot from BTD as well.
Yo guys,did yall forget that john worked for tds? Like actually people arguing about 2 games that are the same genre,the creators legit ARE FRIENDS and SHARE UPDATES WITH EACH OTHER 😔
No way the first coherent voice I heard in the intro was MrGnome, the person who got therapy for being attracted to anime girls.
btw if no tds that means john will never get the idea of tdx
I think games copying each other can lead to newer / more polished versions of the those games. TDS (before tdx), was TB but more further polished, and in a more childish style to appeal to a larger audience, which also let it grow bigger and ultimately becoming the better game.
tbh, its more of a inspirantion over a copy one another. Tds nuke only dose 50 K dmg while Tdx dose umm inf I guess??? And also fun fact CTD had perk and "power ups" since 2020 while people where angry at tds copying tdx with power ups. They aren't even the same thing, its more of a concept.
Tdx dosen't have attack buff perk or tds don't really have rappid airstrike perk, people just keep looking for a way to make war. That's what make us human so normal??? (Edit: holy crap we got someone who actualy respect CTD before gta5 !! Thank you so much for including it. It really means a lot for our community!!!!)
Remi, tds was make for a school thing not to get better than tb but "someone" help tds to grow
tds didnt take inspiration from tdx's barracks cause theres an admin tower called army base that was released about 4 years ago idk
it wasn't worked on they we're focussing on something different
why such videos spread quite a lot, and it is impossible to stop this dispute 😢