Smallest Game Boy With Multiplayer Capability!

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024

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  • @baseduck
    @baseduck 2 года назад +43

    As a developer, the thumby really excites me - I’d love to make some kind of mini music sequencer! Also, the USB port could be used for all sorts of stuff… WiFi-enabled thumby, anyone?

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад +7

      Adding WiFi would be something!

    • @Yipper64
      @Yipper64 2 года назад +5

      One idea I just had was like a dock to let you use a slightly bigger controller. That would be cool, if you could just slot it in, to give up some smallness for actual comfortable controls. Maybe even make it have a flap with a magnifying glass like those gameboy peripherals.

    • @mastercpu2
      @mastercpu2 2 года назад

      @@Yipper64 I’d say a multi-function dock. It houses the WiFi (maybe for updates or downloading new apps) and Bluetooth (for controller support) and maybe even a video out…I know..it’s a novelty thing, and shouldn’t expect a ton out of it..still a neat little thing. 😀

  • @SoopaBee
    @SoopaBee 2 года назад +1

    I actually think a simple text-based adventure game might be kinda cool.

  • @Zorpa24
    @Zorpa24 2 года назад +4

    I'd love to see some screen savers that don't use too much power, so I can rock it on my keys

  • @JF743
    @JF743 2 года назад +18

    this thing is pretty neat, I was half expecting it to be able to run actual GameBoy games when you said the processor was a beast compared to the original console. from the games that are aready on there, I'd say a flappy bird clone would be a decent fit. Even tho it's not really a game, I could probably port Conway's Game of Life on there, but the canevas is so tiny I don't think it'd be worth it, I'd still try it most likely, it would be my 8th re-implementation I think.

    • @theblinkstykrab3106
      @theblinkstykrab3106 2 года назад +4

      Someone actually got gameboy games to *play* on the thumby. Emphasis on the word "play" and not "run". The games aren't actually being ran on the thumby, they're being emulated on a computer, scaled down, and sent to the thumby via OTG. It's hardly playable, but it's a pretty cool concept.

    • @JF743
      @JF743 2 года назад +1

      @@theblinkstykrab3106 oh wow, pretty neat still

    • @shanez1215
      @shanez1215 2 года назад

      @@theblinkstykrab3106 How do they play if the screen only has two colors though.

    • @BaconTopHat45
      @BaconTopHat45 2 года назад

      @@shanez1215 OG Game Boy was monochromatic too. Same as Thumby.

    • @-aexc-
      @-aexc- 2 года назад

      @@BaconTopHat45 monochrome and two colors arent the same. monochrome means it would have different shades

  • @christophermorin9036
    @christophermorin9036 2 года назад +2

    Come on, somebody 3d print a magnifier for this little guy lol!

  • @evertonc1448
    @evertonc1448 2 года назад +9

    Dang, I don't even develop games/emulator, but when you mentioned micropython and the online IDE it really made interested to develop something for this monstrosity.

  • @evilpaul2012
    @evilpaul2012 2 года назад +3

    Great video! I have a full set of the Tiny Arcade devices and there is just something cool about tiny versions that actually look pretty close to the real thing, even if hard to play. Would be cool if you could plug a controller into it, ridiculous but would be interesting to see. Lots of Gameboy demakes would be neat to see.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад +1

      That would actually be really great if you could connect a full-size controller 😅

  • @Amadeus42755
    @Amadeus42755 2 года назад +23

    Honestly, I want to see how many "demakes" of original DMG games we can get. I'd love to see a basic RPG Like Dragon warrior/Dragon Quest.
    Question though, is there a file size limit per game? as in are games limited to 4-8 kb or is it limited only by the amount of onboard storage?

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад +2

      Me too! There are a lot of creative folks out there who I’m sure can make some pretty cool stuff.
      That’s a great question, I’m not actually sure 😅

    • @Masonova1
      @Masonova1 2 года назад +10

      Hi! I'm one of the original engineers for the thing. There's no limit to specific filesizes, so long as they fit inside the 2 megabyte filesystem.

  • @manoftheleaf
    @manoftheleaf 2 года назад +5

    Thumby kinda reminds me of the old Digimon/Tamagotchi electronics. It's probably a great idea to develop a similar game since the Thumby has multiplayer.

    • @aliyahpulido953
      @aliyahpulido953 Год назад +1

      The Tiny Circuits game library actually has a Digimon clone called Tiny Monster Trainer, which you can play in dual-player mode using 2 Thumby's and a link cable to connect them. That'll allow you to train your "Digimon" monster and then battle someone else's monster they trained on their own Thumby... If you wanted to!

  • @coolcoidoin4585
    @coolcoidoin4585 2 года назад +1

    I would like to see a platformer maybe like a mario game or where you continually move forward line geometry dash!

  • @DavidMarvin
    @DavidMarvin 2 года назад +2

    'Way back in October of 2021'
    I'm still waiting for a Kickstarter from 2015.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад

      Oh my goodness, is it still happening?

    • @DavidMarvin
      @DavidMarvin 2 года назад

      @@MachoNachoProductions Most likely not.
      All the money went up his nose and into hair transplants.

  • @Dust0Bomb
    @Dust0Bomb 2 года назад +2

    Great video as always Tito!
    A puzzle game like Wonderswans Gunpey could fit this device nicely :D

  • @ciroloschiavo2573
    @ciroloschiavo2573 2 года назад +1

    I'm following your stuff since I saw the Xbox Mod video, and since then I have been watched all of your videos! Love the way you talk about all the retro stuff you review, it's clear, simple and pleasant to watch. I can clearly see how much love and passion you put in every single console you make videos on. I rediscovered a true passion about the retro gaming itself, especially about the DMG. Keep on doing that, in the way you're doing it. Greetings from Italy, Tito! 🇮🇹🤙🏼

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад +1

      Thank you so much Ciro! Really appreciate it buddy 🙏! I’m so happy you’re enjoying the channel! Cheers!

    • @ciroloschiavo2573
      @ciroloschiavo2573 2 года назад

      @@MachoNachoProductions Thanks to you Tito! Can't wait to watch a new episode of Retro Renew! ✌🏻

  • @Metafaniel
    @Metafaniel 2 года назад

    This is by far the best Thumby review I've seen, good work. As someone else commented, I'm also excited because I'm a developer and I'd like to create my own game. I'd also would like to see other devs creating tools or some other apps to ease creating more games. I'd also want to be part of the gift dynamic. Greetings

  • @Avm371998
    @Avm371998 2 года назад +2

    I wish it was 10% bigger, had USB type C (on the top so it looks like the cartridge slot) and had a better build quality. In that case I wouldn't mind paying 50 bucks for it.

  • @Celosia117
    @Celosia117 2 года назад

    I see you’ve played Gris I’m glad people are trying it, it’s an amazingly beautiful game I’m in love with it. I’m a simple man I’d like to see good ol pong on it. I think it would work fairly well, support 2 players, and is easy for anyone to understand so it’s a solid pick for all. Look forward to seeing what the next videos about. Take care!

  • @diegosoriarios2536
    @diegosoriarios2536 2 года назад +2

    Thumby looks really interesting. As a developer I can think of many things that can be develop for using on it.

  • @Lilolordinaryme
    @Lilolordinaryme 2 года назад

    Just bought one last week, awesome!! I may need magnifying glass and a probe to play it but its such a fun novelty. Features galore

  • @natethebad
    @natethebad 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for another great video showcasing a quirky little piece of hardware. It was interesting to watch, and while I would probably only use something like this as a keychain novelty, I am excited to see what people come up with for it!

  • @DavisMakesGames
    @DavisMakesGames 2 года назад +2

    That's cool! I bought the gold kickstarter edition, haven't gotten mine yet so cool to see other reviews.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад +1

      Whoa, I didn’t know they made a gold one! Very cool!

    • @DavisMakesGames
      @DavisMakesGames 2 года назад +1

      @@MachoNachoProductions Yeah, I believe it was if you pledged over $30 on Kickstarter or something? Think it also had a little carrying case.

    • @izzieb
      @izzieb 2 года назад +1

      I also backed it and am waiting for a gold one plus an additional one in the DMG colours. I know they're a novelty, but I love the idea

  • @fluffycritter
    @fluffycritter 2 года назад +2

    I’d love to see an attempt at putting an FPS or flight sim on the Thumby, or maybe the world’s least visible visual novel.
    Thumbgeon looks like it’s probably a Thumby version of Rogue or Nethack.

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад

      Would have loved to have been able to give thumgeon a go but couldn’t quite grasp the gameplay

    • @fluffycritter
      @fluffycritter 2 года назад

      @@MachoNachoProductions Have you ever played Nethack? From the brief glance in the video it seemed like they were going for that sort of concept. And that's one of those games where either you love it (or at least get it) or you extremely don't. But at least having familiarity with Nethack might help to figure Thumgeon out. Not sure it'd be worth the effort though. :)

  • @JuicyJakeRepairs
    @JuicyJakeRepairs 2 года назад +1

    Tetris! I love how you basically need to play with chopsticks!

  • @PinkFreakCrystal
    @PinkFreakCrystal 2 года назад +4

    A neat game I'd like to see for the Thumby would be a really simplified RPG, maybe something like what the Pokewalker did back in HGSS!

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад

      I would love a nice simple rpg on it too

    • @walmarp
      @walmarp 4 месяца назад

      There’s a built in rogue clone

  • @Chrono_Dragoon
    @Chrono_Dragoon 2 года назад

    I'd like to see the classic card game "high-low" developed for the Thumby:
    - Starting with a standard deck of cards, you draw a card, then guess if the next card will be higher or lower. You get a point if you're right, game over if you're wrong, and no point if it's a tie (but no game over either). Aces would be low (i.e. equal to 1).
    - When you guess right, your current card is discarded, and the card just drawn is your next starting card to guess against.
    - Every time you clear a full deck of cards, the deck is shuffled and you go again, but this time you get another point per right answer in the next round: 2 points per right guess in round 2, 3 points per right guess in round 3, and so on.
    - It would be a simple, arcade-style high score challenge type of game.
    Controls would be simple:
    Up to guess Higher
    Down to guess Lower
    Either face button to pause
    Menus would be simple, too:
    Main menu: start/exit app
    Game Over menu: restart/exit app
    Pause menu: resume play/start over/exit app

  • @raulromero1251
    @raulromero1251 2 года назад +1

    This is pretty cool, I would like to see a Thumbs version of Missile Command or Pong.

  • @RetiredGamers
    @RetiredGamers 2 года назад +1

    An Alleyway type game would be a cool game I’d like to see made for the Thumby!

  • @AzureBlu10
    @AzureBlu10 2 года назад +1

    Super cute! I would like to see Tiny Rocket League and demakes of Super Mario sports games on the Thumby

  • @ratykat
    @ratykat 2 года назад

    Another great video, thanks Tito!
    I'd love to see a teeny tiny port of Mario, even if it was just the first iconic level. It'd be insanely small and near impossible to play but it'd be fun!

  • @Punmaster9001
    @Punmaster9001 2 года назад

    Even though I have notifications set to "ON" for "ALL" I still didn't get a notification for this channel for the last 3 weeks and had to look it up when remembering something random and it made me think of the channel

  • @Bravo_13
    @Bravo_13 2 года назад +1

    this is absolutely wonderful and unique.Thanks for sharing the review, I hope I'd get it :)

  • @astrumespanol
    @astrumespanol 2 года назад +1

    Flappy bird will be a great game, only one button

  • @hectorlucas_
    @hectorlucas_ 2 года назад

    Any type of demake of a popular DMG games would be so interesting. Seeing a super simple stripped down version of Pokémon would be so cool.

  • @koreyf
    @koreyf 2 года назад +2

    I'd love to see Mario clones on here. Old School side scrolling platforms are my origin story. ... Keep up the great work Tito

  • @vicentepelegrini8582
    @vicentepelegrini8582 2 года назад

    I'm impressed how this is able to exist in the first place, external connector, battery, screen, processor and memory... not to mention the thickness of the case that also occupies some internal space in there. About the game I want to see, maybe some racing game should be challenging from a technical point of view. Definitely doable, but certainly challenging to do something "playable" like these other games

  • @joaquim4296
    @joaquim4296 2 года назад +1

    Very Nice it would be awesome a port of DOOM will run on anything even on thunby, seriously it would be nicer if the audio was kind of high-pitched as a joke because of the tiny size lol

  • @aboveaveragebluesenjoyer9953
    @aboveaveragebluesenjoyer9953 2 года назад +1

    I’d love to see a doom port :), I’m in their discord and they are very active and many games are being developed at the moment!

  • @techmatt97
    @techmatt97 2 года назад +3

    Beautiful,they made a dmg for ants

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад +1

      Haha, yep, they’re definitely small

    • @techmatt97
      @techmatt97 2 года назад

      @@MachoNachoProductions I enjoy all of your cool videos and your tutorials helped me make my own game boy color mods with a glow in dark shell and backlit lcd

  • @yourtime
    @yourtime 2 года назад +1

    Making some sort of IDE like scratch would be the challenge

  • @BeExcellent1
    @BeExcellent1 Год назад

    Truly my favourite thing about this is the scale and knowing how hard it is to design, redesign x10 and bring to production something like this, it makes my inner child happy! I hope they get a more square screen and USB-C instead of micro I'd buy a good few of them as pokemon keyrings for my kids, guarantee they'd never lose the keys again! 👍

  • @LolaliciousSmiley
    @LolaliciousSmiley 2 года назад

    Fun-fact: annelids are segmented worms.
    I want to see a minigame collection Warioware style. I think the limited capabilities of the thumby make it perfect for showcasing short, creative ideas.

  • @rickw9799
    @rickw9799 2 года назад

    This is pretty neat. It looks even smaller than the Pocket Sprite which is another fun little micro console you should take a look at!

  • @daaa57150
    @daaa57150 2 года назад +1

    The game I would like to see developed for this is an old prototype I made for the iPhone, a very simple rhythm game. If I win I may try, looks fun.

  • @PhilShepardLLC
    @PhilShepardLLC 2 года назад +1

    SuperImpulse sells a line of micro arcade cabinets called Tiny Arcade. I've collected the whole range and I've found that some of the older arcade games lend themselves really fairly well to these smaller consoles. I think ports of Pac-Man, Galaga, Space Invaders and Frogger could all work well for this type of control scheme. The only issue might be screen size.

  • @FATHUNTER16
    @FATHUNTER16 2 года назад

    This is a really cool piece of nostalgic looking technology. For something like this of this size, I think a simple game of Pong could be useful and kind of fun. Either way it's a cool piece of tech.

  • @vauger27240
    @vauger27240 2 года назад

    I haven't heard too much in depth info until now, but I really wonder if other USB capabilities will be added down the line, because just by itself this is a great way to work on tiny projects!

  • @GreatGatzB
    @GreatGatzB 2 года назад +1

    Tempted to buy two of these- I think I have that cable somewhere in my bin of horrors 😂

    • @MachoNachoProductions
      @MachoNachoProductions  2 года назад

      Haha, I have so many cables too and spent so much time looking for one but sadly I didn’t have one 😔

  • @ZzleEpyGameRzz
    @ZzleEpyGameRzz 2 года назад +1

    I guess what I mostly would like to see would be something like Metroid, Zelda and Mario

  • @vdwbjorn
    @vdwbjorn 2 года назад +1

    Tetris should be a fitting game for this device.

  • @trismvs
    @trismvs 2 года назад +1

    I'm wondering if there's some kind of work around with it being monochromatic such as flickering pixels at different intervals in order to achieve the appearance of different greys

  • @Lumalee
    @Lumalee 2 года назад +2

    I'd love to see a minimalist platformer like mario on it!

  • @ViewtifulSam
    @ViewtifulSam 2 года назад

    This right here is an awesome gadget! As a programmer myself, I'd love to play with it. With this being such a tiny device, I think that games that could really work are reaction-based ones with very simple controls like the dinosaur running one that comes preloaded. Maybe some classic Wario Ware microgames could be succesfully ported? Or even a simple rhythm game? I'm really curious for what the community comes up with!

  • @tiagotk2507
    @tiagotk2507 2 года назад +1

    I want to see a Zelda Link's Awakening for this pretty cute tiny little console.

  • @spud3856
    @spud3856 2 года назад +2

    I think a great game for this device would be Galaga, it’s my favorite classic retro game and would be perfect for the Thumby

  • @stephenshelottiii3272
    @stephenshelottiii3272 2 года назад +1

    Can’t wait to get Tomb Raider Demake on this!!

  • @dthree5694
    @dthree5694 2 года назад

    That's a pretty awsome tiny device, im excited in wich applications people code for it. And would also be excited, to code some own applications for that tiny thing (:

  • @Woode2nd
    @Woode2nd 2 года назад +1

    A fun game I would like to see is a dungeon crawler like Binding of Issac. Going through rooms with enemies and collecting new items sounds neat for a small device

  • @AnotherFreakingDude
    @AnotherFreakingDude 2 года назад

    i would love to see some kind of platformer run on this, also a handyboy adaptation for this would be hilarious.

  • @JavierChaparroM
    @JavierChaparroM 2 года назад +1

    What an amazing device! Haha I would love to see something like the original super Mario bros there!!

  • @flowalter
    @flowalter 2 года назад +2

    As a Pokémon fan, i'd love to see a demake of the first ones, i'm pretty sure the system could handle some more recent entries of the licence, but i'm not quite sure how it would display the sprites

  • @TheSlothFilms
    @TheSlothFilms 2 года назад

    Would love to see a side scrolling jumping platform game sort of like pitfall or akin to temple runner. Such a cool desktop gadget to have displayed

  • @tempestthesloth3177
    @tempestthesloth3177 2 года назад

    I’m definitely gonna have to grab one or two of these to mess around with! A port of a Pokémon game on the thumby would make a fun challenge.

  • @carson4533
    @carson4533 2 года назад

    How amazing! Would love to see a pet care game like tamagotchi on it!

  • @apokefaleart8918
    @apokefaleart8918 2 года назад

    That looks like a great chance for a simple Final Fantasy port or something other round based RPG kind of game.
    Great video, by the way Tito.

  • @AustinTroth
    @AustinTroth 2 года назад

    this is way smaller than I would've expected. We need a Metroid on it for posterity

  • @Drangkoor
    @Drangkoor 2 года назад

    So ready for a full thumby rpg that I will have to play under a magnifying glass, haha

  • @mythrshp3867
    @mythrshp3867 2 года назад

    Galaga.
    If Asteroids can look that fluid, a shoot-'em-up would be fan-freakin-tastic.

  • @ThaddeusMcKnight1
    @ThaddeusMcKnight1 2 года назад +1

    Would be cool to have a Pong clone. Then you could have multiplayer Pong with a friend using that USB cable.

  • @OlGregDraws
    @OlGregDraws 2 года назад +2

    Would love to see a side-scrolling plane shooter game like in the arcades back in the day. Or a knock-off of Frogger

  • @liamd1070
    @liamd1070 2 года назад +1

    I would like to see a side scrolling game. Something simple enough that you don’t need a magnifying glass to see the details in the game. Just enough detail to play the game.

  • @kajvanderster
    @kajvanderster 2 года назад +2

    As someone who just started learning micropython, this get me all excited to dive into this marvelous piece of hardware. Can't wait for someone to port Doom for it :D. Also games like pong, space invaders or those get to the other side games. HYPED

  • @SlingshotGamer
    @SlingshotGamer 2 года назад +1

    Great video. They need to create like an AirTag device. I will so misplace and lose this device lol . I would like to see games like Temple Run on it

  • @fungalcoffee
    @fungalcoffee 2 года назад +2

    I'm curious if someone makes a pokemon clone, it sounds like a fun challenge to play through on a system that small.

  • @-aexc-
    @-aexc- 2 года назад +5

    idk, it feels like clickbait to call it the smallest gameboy when it doesnt run gameboy games

    • @FlameTheGoober
      @FlameTheGoober 8 месяцев назад

      I mean, somebody DID run Pokemon on it. (Sorry for the necro)

  • @ButtholioTheGreat
    @ButtholioTheGreat 2 года назад +1

    Thumby + Doom needs to happen

  • @galloisgarcon
    @galloisgarcon 2 года назад +2

    This is so much fun. I’d love to see a ‘micromachines’ clone! A micro racer on a micro gameboy 🙌 it’s going to be a hard one to play for sure 😝

    • @galloisgarcon
      @galloisgarcon 2 года назад

      It would be a good one to make use of the link cable too

  • @mastercpu2
    @mastercpu2 2 года назад

    As always, great video. I’d like to see the old Atari Game Adventure..it might be hard without a color screen though or maybe Tanks this would be cool too if the link cable comes into play for two players. lol

  • @NerdMerchant
    @NerdMerchant 2 года назад

    Great video, a simplified side scrolling platformer would probably work well and seems appropriate for it.

  • @perpetualcollapse
    @perpetualcollapse 2 года назад +1

    Understandable, have a nice day.

  • @ProcessID
    @ProcessID 2 года назад +1

    I'd love to try my hand at porting an old bsd game to this, like trek; I'll have to go check out the ide!

  • @Fat_Halpert
    @Fat_Halpert 2 года назад +1

    A de-make of Pac-Man would be pretty neat on this thing

  • @9ElevenGamer
    @9ElevenGamer 2 года назад +1

    A game for it, ummm, a Revenge of Gator Pinball style game!

  • @shadowschneetheotakugamer
    @shadowschneetheotakugamer 2 года назад

    A game involving more than one or two systems would be interesting.

  • @fredrick8691
    @fredrick8691 2 года назад

    I want one if this little guys. It's adorable! I def would Iike some sort of platformers done for it.

  • @Cool_Retro
    @Cool_Retro 2 года назад

    Nice review. Interesting mini handheld. I would like see a Mario, Metroif or Zelda game developed or ported.

  • @EpsilonDelta1
    @EpsilonDelta1 2 года назад +1

    I can see the original Doom on the Thumby lol

  • @No1BRC
    @No1BRC 2 года назад +2

    This is just truly amazing😂 Thinking of playability I think something like Kwirk would be great as you don't have to be quick in that game. Surely a problem with that size 😁

  • @RetroOrion
    @RetroOrion 2 года назад +2

    Obviously needs a pac-man clone! And I can see a lot of older DOS games being re-made and ported to this system too!

  • @TheOneangrybadger
    @TheOneangrybadger 2 года назад +1

    I would love to see a breakout or defender type game. I think both would work well and be fun.

  • @victorstk
    @victorstk 2 года назад

    Well for a game that i was expecting for it was some tank battle minigames, every cheap minigame has those.

  • @Humdr
    @Humdr 2 года назад +1

    I'm thinking someone could made a USB Micro button attachment to add Start and Select. Or give a full mini button layout (but still larger).
    Like you bet someone you can beat their score in TinyBlocks and hand it to someone then for your turn you plug in larger buttons. 😆

  • @ItsSoDane
    @ItsSoDane 2 года назад +1

    I like to see a little platformer game made for the console. Maybe a bunny!

  • @JoeyV104
    @JoeyV104 2 года назад +1

    It would be cool to get a flappy bird clone on this little bad boy

  • @phgodts
    @phgodts 2 года назад +1

    Definitively a JRPG would be great for it

  • @soul334
    @soul334 2 года назад

    I would love to port my chunk intercept game onto this system, with the minimal button inputs it uses it would be the ideal platform.

  • @royallblood
    @royallblood 2 года назад

    If a pregnancy test can run Doom, I'm sure the thumby can handle Solitaire or even Frogger hahah

  • @Hamburgerdad
    @Hamburgerdad 2 года назад +2

    Very interesting design. Seems more like a novelty than anything, but I'd like to see what they can do with it nonetheless!
    The games all seem to fit the console well. Maybe something like Picross would work well?

  • @brooklyn11218
    @brooklyn11218 2 года назад

    I'd love to see how a game similar to shadowgate could work on the Thumby's tiny screen. Especially since it would involve text.

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson 2 года назад +1

    I already have 1 as I backed the kickstarter but my SO would love to see centipede on it. 😄

  • @StarZPWN
    @StarZPWN 2 года назад +1

    For sure I would love to see a Tetris clone!

  • @tomangel1279
    @tomangel1279 2 года назад +1

    The game I want them to add to the thumby is Minecraft. I shared and liked