This Ronson guy is downplaying the fact that rich political leaders and industry leaders find time to go attend these rituals makes me think he's very stupid, gullible or is a sell out. These people are in front of a massive statue all you can say is you think it's an owl sanctuary? And then you go and liken it to skull and bones as if that is a no big deal organisation... There is something unsettling about the whole thing and we all know politicians and business people take their time seriously so if you find that they are willing to spend time on these rituals/ceremonies then it is a big deal. Try meeting a politician for something you believe is important just for 30 mins that's when you'll understand what I'm saying.
Don't dismiss people's veiws like they do to Alex. Weather you agree or disagree YOU DON'T KNOW so don't cancel opinions you disagree with less you be as bad as the mainstream.
Actually, do whatever you want, I shouldn't try to cancel you either. But I disagree with you writing him off as false when no-one really knows, it's your right to indignantly portray your opinions as fact I guess. It's up to the reader to know the difference.
I'd just like to say, it's suspicious when you have someone that was at Bohemian Grove come out and say it wasn't creepy or weird. Sounds like someone trying to quell suspicion.
My parents fled to the USA from Iran in 1969 because the Shah tortured my father because my dad wanted to bring back democracy to Iran--Iranians elected their first democratically elected leader, Mohammad Mossadegh in 1951 and the USA overthrew him in a CIA operation named Operation Ajax. The US installed the Shah, who tortured and murdered Iranians who did not support his reign using CIA torture and manipulation techniques. When I found this out in my teenage years, after growing up in America believing that it was the best country in the world, I was overwhelmed. Ever since, I can't help but do my own research and investigation in anything that appears to be off. I think it's about thinking for oneself rather than letting the media, or anyone else, telling us what to believe. Great video, as usual!
my dad was a big conspiracy theorist watched all of Alex Jones, I grew up w/ his videos playing in the kitchen while he cooked (he's a great cook!) I thought it was all absolutely crazy.. 15 years later I sadly realized he was right, on just about everything. The truth is often stranger than fiction; ain't that the truth!
Right on just about everything? Is that why he regularly has to publicly apologize for false statements? He just calls everything a conspiracy and eventually something will stick. it's a simple and ancient tactic that plays on fools
Who said I listen to Alex Jones? I just remember the original Bohemian Grove film, and that Ronson's comment is not accurate. Oh, and for what it's worth, all this globalism stuff Jones talks about... is very real. Not into his style or presentation of the issue, but the issue itself, is legitimate.
Alex is more right than wrong and even when Alex did the broadcast with Joe he was able to back up much of what he was claiming. Not all, but much. Quit downplaying Alex Jones legitimacy.
Synopsis: Talk about how Alex Jones' and Infowars tell "outright lies"... while periodically stopping to state that we agree with Alex Jones on more than just a few points.
I feel like its one of those perfectionist mindsets where despite knowing an incredible amount of detail of a subject, you realize how much you don’t know and makes you feel less confident in that subject. It’s called the Dunning-Kruger Effect and yeah I see what you mean… whose to say he isn’t tryna play the audience lol
He didn’t write a book. He wrote an article. And proceeded to say he told them only what he knew, but that he didn’t know more than what he knew. I suppose you want people to act like they know everything even when they don’t
Watching that video, it's not surprising... Ronson was acting more like he was investigating Alex, digging into whether he wanted to do anything "dangerous" and privately asking his girlfriend about what she thinks of him, how he behaved toward her. It was kinda fucked.
In Jones' and Ronson's documentaries, Ronson doesn't go into Bohemian Grove, whereas now he's saying he was sitting there watching the ceremony and all the other celebrations
@@Randomuser2329 haven't yet read Them but have been meaning to. Does he say he goes into Bohemian Grove in that out of curiosity? It's just strange because in Secret Rulers of the World and Jones' own documentary, its only Jones and his producer who go in
PBD and more need to invite him on their podcasts because Alex Jones appears to have bitten off more than he could chew with the Sandy Hook thing. Instead of knowing when to turn off the conspiracy-peddling to generate revenue, he just kept going and going. Do you think it's a coincidence that he still shills the supplements that made him a laughingstock in the first place? He may have been heavily corrupt since the 90s.
The idea of just walking in the gate is like magic. Used to do journalism and it just takes a bit of guts to walk into some places like you are meant to be there.
This dude is really good at being manipulative. He basically repeats the exact information that would give you the exact interpretation that Alex Jones took from being at Bohemian Grove, but then acts like it's somehow different at the last second.
If Alex started calling out this guy it would be hilarious "He sits there with his little glasses like a demon talking in his cute, little, voice, SACRIFICING KIDS AT THE BOHEMIAN GROVE"
Clearly alex jones viewed the whole event through the lens of his conspiracy world view. And this guy just saw it as a male fraternity for rich weirdos
@@Dondrepad231odd, I only know from my own experiences that people usually remember what were said or did wrongly by a person and rarely give credit when that person turned out to be right eventually. That's how egoistic majority of the people are
@NeanderthalDogma he wouldn't have been sued for an absurd 2 billion and dragged through the streets if he was a fed. They're doing everything short of knocking him off to try and discredit/shut him up
theres no way to prove conspiracies about the elite because theyre gangsters, its not gonna be written in a letter or in the public eye, bet someone called him or told him in person
Maybe he just read more and more, spoke with literally 1,000s of people - including astrophysicists - and he's decided the moon landing is most likely real, and Sandy hook most likely happened.
Ronson is so Hell bent on having Rogan Speak about If Alex speaks with Trump, and that whole thing, I just love how Rogan just shuts it down with He's my friend- which is the definition to me of a true friend , you don't have to agree with the entirety of a human being to enjoy their company
9:19 I like that Jon Ronson is good-natured about this, but with all due respect to Joe Rogan, I think he's too soft on Alex Jones. I think AJ bit off more than he could chew with the Sandy Hook thing because he's so used to just letting crazy stuff fly right out of his mouth without having to face any direct accountability or consequences. Judging by how easily Ronson and co. snuck into the Grove, plus with how old the members/attendees are, my conclusion is that the members stopped caring about people sneaking in a long time ago because they enjoy the company. Then AJ screwed the pooch by smearing the Cremation of Care as a Luciferian-Satanic ritual by globalists. You can all think what you want, but the ritual is just a mock pagan ritual. Why? The attendees have been largely, if not entirely, Protestant, and the Grove became owned by wealthy men many decades ago. The club members are all old, rich men who live stressful lives who desperately want some semblance, no matter how temporary, to their glory days in college/university. The perfect way for them to stick it to the Man is a mock pagan ritual. PBD and many others need to have Ronson on their podcasts as a guests because the reality is that Alex Jones, David Icke, Mark "Dice" Shouldice, and so many others peddle conspiracies because that's what generates revenue, and the conspiracies are far more comforting than the truth: there are no shadowy elites controlling society from a tiny room because the world is controlled by the market. Even the more well-meaning guys like Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, et al will still peddle a facsimile of Jones's conspiracies because that's what generates revenue.
IzJoe I agree but joey is one of his best friends, can't blame him for wanting to share it with him, wish he had more people on at least tho. Duncan trussel was given 666 haha
Alex usually has some way of backing up his claims because if he didn't he knows the media would call him out. But yes Alex is very excited and passionate and entertaining to watch or listen to.
Did you not catch 9:19 ? Ronson says that Alex Jones knew that the Bohemian Grove was just a silly frat party, but he just couldn't tell his listeners that. AJ's been heavily corrupt since 2001, if not earlier.
Wow, you got me there. Your opinion is obviously more important than my own. How have I ever got through life without you? #sarcasm #OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
There is a huge difference betweena conspiracy and a 'conspiracy theory'. The latter is a speculation, the former is a reality. "Con" means with. "Spire" means to breathe. So conspire means to breath out - to plan an actual event with at least one other person in secrecy in order to gain an advantage over others.
Whoa Rogan, when you said 'Paranoia inducing", that just made me understand this in a different way. I've never felt paranoid from consumption, and I thought those were old personal experiences from the 70's, but they were probably people labeled paranoid from others when they experienced awakening to the forces at work in our world due to consumption.
All the hate for Jon Ronson are from people that have no idea what good journalism is. This is sad, Jon is a straight up good guy that doesn't spread bullshit
Think about it: the 4th dimension is time. And two years later Jon publicly thrashtalked Alex. Maybe Alex was just interdimensionally foreseeing things
This is my first time seeing this JRE! I read Jon Ronson’s book when I was a wee teen in the 90’s. That was the first time I had a glimpse beyond the veil! I remember there was different adventures with different people. The only one that stuck with me forever is Bohemian Grove cuz it was EXTRAORDINARILY WEIRD . When I saw the video a decade later I realized how CREEPY and UNSETTLING it truly is!
Well idk all too much about this due at the moment. But from watching this video, it seems to me like he's trying to pull a sweep everything under the carpet for the elites. Seems like a sketchy ass snake to me, I dont like him right off the bat.
He wouldn't even touch thr grove unless Alex Jones went in with him, and after they did, he's pretty much done nothing but slander Alex. Keep in mind that, while Alex will run into a story head first, his story about the gove, seems to be the one that's been most consistently retold over the years (along with whatever footage is supposedly out there.)
Isaiah I don’t think that where he was getting at, think he was trying to say that the answers to some questions will be so bad that’s it’d destroy every fabric of your being
"It is a cult if old rich people sit and watch a ritual about an owl!" Hundreds of thousands of Americans paint their faces and worship a guy throwing a pigs bladder at a giant fork every sunday.
@@jonanderson5137 wtf does it have it have to do with literal rituals being done in cloaks in secret in the forest? All of them rich elites who have also been tied to child trafficking and pedo rings. How does your brain even tie the two together the guy sounds like a moron lmao
He clowns Alex but he built his whole career around him. Joe Rogan doesn't agree with everything he does but at least he doesn't laugh behind his back and piggy back off his accomplishments. Nobody wold know this dudes name if it wasn't for AJ.
Molech is NOT an owl god. Molech is a horned, bull headed god with a human body. The owl is likely from the Eleusinian mysteries (rape of Persephone) or possibly the owl of Athena.
@Ben Dover The problem with these sources that assert Moloch/Molech is depicted as an owl is that they are not academic. Secondly, I challenge anyone to produce a source of an owl Moloch that predates Alex Jones infiltration into the Bohemian Grove. Outside of the Torah (Old Testament), there really isn't too much information about Moloch. It's fair to say that even the most firm assertions regarding Moloch are rather shakey.
@Ben Dover The performance.at Bohemian Grove is esoteric theater. It's not a ritual as much as a performance. In today's church, children and adults will celebrate Christmas and Easter with a stage performance. It's a celebration, but it's a confusing celebration if the audience is completely unaware of the Christian mysteries- death and rebirth. Likewise, the most ancient, as well as the most important of all esoteric sects is the mystery of death and rebirth. Unless you have some understanding of these mysteries, the occult will remain veiled. What is seen in Bohemian Grove is theater that is most likely performed by an exclusive group (eg priests, initiates). The group crosses over one of the five rivers in the underworld. This is the home of Hades and, for a time, Persephone/Kore. Ascalaphus would be turned into an owl by Persephone (or Demeter depending on the text) for telling the gods on Persephone for eating pomegranate seeds. As an owl Ascalaphus became the familiar of Hades. The basic exoteric story is interesting on it's own. From this point you can work forward to Aleister Crowley and the Roman Catholic church or you can work backwards all the way to Osiris and Isis, and perhaps Nimrod. I have a modest library that is built from academic, (moatly) post graduate resources that span anthropology, comparative studies of (dead and alive) religions, western mysticism/NAM, black magick, Christian and comparative religion eschatology.
@Ben Dover The guys from Ancient Aliens are mystics that claim to channel people like Edgar Casey and a particular race of aliens. I find the vast majority of the "evidence" supporting the ancient alien narrative is nothing more than one logical fallacy after the other. The irony is that the whole camp that came after "Chariots On Fire" may say that the gods were actually aliens, but the reality is that they practice black magick. Today we call them demons and angels. Tomorrow they will call them something else. That's an Aleister Crowley ad lib from 100 years ago. Now read this: www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/mvpvyn/magickal-stories-lam I do believe that there was a pre Adamite race. Demonology requires pre Adamites. Biblical Demonology by Merrill Unger is a short and concise read. Anyway, just wanted to give you different things to consider rather than a misidentified owl statue. Enjoy the rabbit hole.
Calling Alex Jones crazy coming from the guy who takes fucking DMT sees shit trips out all the time and he even took Psilocybin c'mon guy big paid for groups try to shut Alex down and fuck up his home life for taking things out of context, researching things and having a different opinion on stuff and for actually proving stuff and when he's being wrong about some things they never let him live it down I love Alex Jones he's brave and he knows who he is and where he stands he's for God and he's not a wishy washy sellout who would throw his friends under the bus for not agreeing with an opinion or seeing things differently like Joe Rogan when he talks about Alex or Eddie
Trump should be on his knees blowing Alex Jones, Infowars got Trump ATLEAST 2 million votes he wouldn't have got if it wasn't for their support. Who else got Trump that many supporters?
Pizzagate News Are you a real channel or just the best troll ever? I mean everything I've seen on your channel is just the most inane blathering I've ever heard
The weed is 100% stronger, trust me. That’s not because I approve of it or anything, but the amount of people who actually enjoy weed now is much higher, as am I, and every story from an old person is about how bad the weed was back then. So as a self-proclaimed scientist, I must give my opinion that the weed today is indisputably better than it was 50 years ago. Thanks Obama/Soros
Jon Ronson has more balls than all of you put together. He's an Irish journalist who puts himself right into the thick of things. Find out more about him through Google, you should be impressed.
Imagine seeing that stuff and calling it bullshit. People like him are why they don't feel the need to be more secretive because they've trained the average person to call everything bullshit regardless of the evidence.
Moloch is in the Bible as a Cannonite God who takes child sacrafice in exchange for wisdom, wealth, power etc
Thats correct.
Yes he's a ancient God
Btw they are real these ancient God if it didnt work then why are children going missing why r they doing so much sacrifice
@@tarmarajohnson2659 Most Gods have acient roots. Also, imo if you're willing to sacrifice a child for selfish gains you're willing to do anything.
only one real God thus “moloch” is just the devil dont call it a god its the devil
how did Joe get stewie griffin on the podcast?
I died. xD
He promised him a death ray and a dildo
Bro I can’t unhear it
I was looking for this comment
This Ronson guy is downplaying the fact that rich political leaders and industry leaders find time to go attend these rituals makes me think he's very stupid, gullible or is a sell out.
These people are in front of a massive statue all you can say is you think it's an owl sanctuary?
And then you go and liken it to skull and bones as if that is a no big deal organisation...
There is something unsettling about the whole thing and we all know politicians and business people take their time seriously so if you find that they are willing to spend time on these rituals/ceremonies then it is a big deal.
Try meeting a politician for something you believe is important just for 30 mins that's when you'll understand what I'm saying.
That's a great way to put it!
Don't dismiss people's veiws like they do to Alex. Weather you agree or disagree YOU DON'T KNOW so don't cancel opinions you disagree with less you be as bad as the mainstream.
Actually, do whatever you want, I shouldn't try to cancel you either. But I disagree with you writing him off as false when no-one really knows, it's your right to indignantly portray your opinions as fact I guess. It's up to the reader to know the difference.
I'd just like to say, it's suspicious when you have someone that was at Bohemian Grove come out and say it wasn't creepy or weird. Sounds like someone trying to quell suspicion.
we should kidnap him & see if he has a 666 in a raised brand in the small of his back. Pour holy water on him to too whilst you are vetting :)
I found it weird that he says he just drove up the driveway and gave a wave🤣🤣
The whole reason he went was he thought it would be weird and creepy and he went and dispelled some of the mystery and came off a bit lame.
Have you been to a Christian evangelical service? That’s way way creepier, I don’t see anybody going nuts about it...
You people won’t believe anything
This guy wipes his harddrive everytime someone knocks on his door.
Jon Ronson? What are you on?
too bad they can recover that
@@killakam123321 not if he uses hillary's cloth as it's magic.
Lmaoooooo bruh I read this as I was looking at him talk and I busted out laughing
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"I think its an owl sanctuary" lol
My parents fled to the USA from Iran in 1969 because the Shah tortured my father because my dad wanted to bring back democracy to Iran--Iranians elected their first democratically elected leader, Mohammad Mossadegh in 1951 and the USA overthrew him in a CIA operation named Operation Ajax. The US installed the Shah, who tortured and murdered Iranians who did not support his reign using CIA torture and manipulation techniques. When I found this out in my teenage years, after growing up in America believing that it was the best country in the world, I was overwhelmed. Ever since, I can't help but do my own research and investigation in anything that appears to be off. I think it's about thinking for oneself rather than letting the media, or anyone else, telling us what to believe. Great video, as usual!
america is the best country in the world. but every sun casts shadows no matter how bright
@@heftymagic4814 the USA is a decaying society
@@0x00-e2v i was wrong, the purpose of america was always to be a place of enslavement
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@@Amir-cl5wr I wish I could read what you wrote. Peace.
my dad was a big conspiracy theorist watched all of Alex Jones, I grew up w/ his videos playing in the kitchen while he cooked (he's a great cook!) I thought it was all absolutely crazy.. 15 years later I sadly realized he was right, on just about everything. The truth is often stranger than fiction; ain't that the truth!
Right on just about everything? Is that why he regularly has to publicly apologize for false statements? He just calls everything a conspiracy and eventually something will stick. it's a simple and ancient tactic that plays on fools
Sounds like you've a cool dad cooking up conspiracy theories. Just joking I love to cook and search for truth too.
Tracy Bartell Bro Alex supports Trump. Why? The man is not fit to be president.
ScreechingBlueHairFeminist well that didn’t age well
@@carolinecorma8n69 hahahahahahaha nice argument hunny
Alex Jones didn't say it was a real child, he said it was a mock sacrifice. Tbh, you cannot trust Jon Ronson, he only cares about his book deals.
Simon Elof Alex Jones spends over 1/3 of his airtime trying to sell you stupid shit from his store.
Ya you can sure trust Alex Jones, he's not in it for money or anything
Who said I listen to Alex Jones? I just remember the original Bohemian Grove film, and that Ronson's comment is not accurate.
Oh, and for what it's worth, all this globalism stuff Jones talks about... is very real. Not into his style or presentation of the issue, but the issue itself, is legitimate.
Alex Jones is just a Modern Day Televangelist getting rich off of fools and suckers.
Simon Elof Hogwash!
Alex is more right than wrong and even when Alex did the broadcast with Joe he was able to back up much of what he was claiming. Not all, but much. Quit downplaying Alex Jones legitimacy.
Alex Jones is a living MEME and a national treasure that we should keep alive as long as possible.
The man predicted Epsteins island man THATS crazy
A hero to society’s most mental people
A pure genius grifter
im no joke going to say a prophet. so many things that hes talked about has came became true
@@typhlosion4223 Wake up wake up
Then, slap whatever he's eating out of his hand..
Synopsis: Talk about how Alex Jones' and Infowars tell "outright lies"... while periodically stopping to state that we agree with Alex Jones on more than just a few points.
They're not mutually exclusive
Dude says he wrote a book about Alex and Trumps connection, only to say a minute later that he doesn’t know much about it. Sums up journalism in 2020.
I feel like its one of those perfectionist mindsets where despite knowing an incredible amount of detail of a subject, you realize how much you don’t know and makes you feel less confident in that subject.
It’s called the Dunning-Kruger Effect and yeah I see what you mean… whose to say he isn’t tryna play the audience lol
He knows enough to write a book about what he knows but he doesn't pretend to know more than he does. A shocking bit of modesty these days.
He didn’t write a book. He wrote an article. And proceeded to say he told them only what he knew, but that he didn’t know more than what he knew. I suppose you want people to act like they know everything even when they don’t
@@AliceYobby Like stories about pee tapes and Russian collusion? Christopher Steele was the last journalist.
@@AliceYobby lol this is a year old comment and ur still wrong. Dumb fuck.
This guy reminds me of Cicero from Skyrim...he could 100% be a cultist
Jon Ronson loves the Night Mother$
MFer is a clinger, huh?
jay yeffoc lol
Yeea
He reminds me of actual Cicero of Rome, a little weasel.
This guy is sketchy as hell. Alex had the right intuition about him.
Watching that video, it's not surprising... Ronson was acting more like he was investigating Alex, digging into whether he wanted to do anything "dangerous" and privately asking his girlfriend about what she thinks of him, how he behaved toward her. It was kinda fucked.
In Jones' and Ronson's documentaries, Ronson doesn't go into Bohemian Grove, whereas now he's saying he was sitting there watching the ceremony and all the other celebrations
@@Randomuser2329 haven't yet read Them but have been meaning to. Does he say he goes into Bohemian Grove in that out of curiosity? It's just strange because in Secret Rulers of the World and Jones' own documentary, its only Jones and his producer who go in
Sussss and he wrote men who stare at goats. Oh yeah. Susssss
@@tarkovsky3875 Is that true Ronson never actually went inside? It would make a lot of sense in hindsight. He definitely didn’t go in?
Jon Ronson is a legend. Read his books and you’ll see the madness that goes on 😀
PBD and more need to invite him on their podcasts because Alex Jones appears to have bitten off more than he could chew with the Sandy Hook thing. Instead of knowing when to turn off the conspiracy-peddling to generate revenue, he just kept going and going. Do you think it's a coincidence that he still shills the supplements that made him a laughingstock in the first place? He may have been heavily corrupt since the 90s.
The idea of just walking in the gate is like magic. Used to do journalism and it just takes a bit of guts to walk into some places like you are meant to be there.
It came out true
You gotta have balls to go in there. That piece Alex did with David Gergen looked a little bit staged.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to trespass in the Grove btw. That Alex Jones event was staged 100% Jon Ronson is British Intelligence btw. Rogan is CIA.
alex never said they killed a baby
The dingo ate the satanists baby
I've killed a couple if it makes you feel better.🤣
@Time Traveler • 63 years ago I was young and reckless...I've changed.🤐
You are barking up the wrong tree.
@1,000 Subscribers With Some Videos u rlly shouldn't, he's dangerous. Trust me. I know 😳
It is so weird that he gets into something so crazy and see the grove event but thinks its a wild idea that there are cameras inside of fake owls lol
Everyone laughs at Alex while everything he has said has been true. Just saying!!!
Everything? You shure about that?
@@watata1t it’s sure.
@@angb1429 sandy hook?
@@angb1429 his 9/11 bullshit,. He is wrong most of the fucking time, and making money on it
@@watata1t weird how mass shootings onky accrue durring gun control meetings
joe "alex has been my friend since 1998" rogan
This dude is really good at being manipulative. He basically repeats the exact information that would give you the exact interpretation that Alex Jones took from being at Bohemian Grove, but then acts like it's somehow different at the last second.
If Alex started calling out this guy it would be hilarious
"He sits there with his little glasses like a demon talking in his cute, little, voice, SACRIFICING KIDS AT THE BOHEMIAN GROVE"
Something is a little off about this guy though...
Alex wasent wrong for splitting ways with him at Bohemian Grove
HOLY FK ; BEST COMMENT I'VE SEEN IN AWHILE
@@llRandomHerollwhtz yo ig
Read Jon Ronson’s books you’ll get a better understanding of his genius
This individual has ulterior motives clearly. Definitely makes me question the validity of Joe.
Clearly alex jones viewed the whole event through the lens of his conspiracy world view. And this guy just saw it as a male fraternity for rich weirdos
This guy is a GREAT STORY TELLER!
The crazy thing is most of our leaders go there to except for Trump.
Bullshit, Trump has been associated with Epstein. No one has a clean slate here.
holy shit, i need a shower after seeing this guy.
When joe says that he has friends with conspiracy theories issues we know that he's talking about eddie
This guy reminds me of ben linus from lost
Ha that is a great shout
I love how Joe has improved his Trump impersonation over time.
I like how Joe was clueless to pervasive conspiracies conceived and maintained by feckless idiots. Horse paste Rogan vs Ivermectin Rogan
Alex continues to be proven right.
Its easy to be right when you say everythingnand anything and people remember only what you got right (somewhat)
@@Dondrepad231odd, I only know from my own experiences that people usually remember what were said or did wrongly by a person and rarely give credit when that person turned out to be right eventually. That's how egoistic majority of the people are
@@silentbliss7666 his fans obviously do the reverse . Everyone else remembers the things he got wrong so in that sense you are right.
Hes a fed he is using partial truth as a weapon
@NeanderthalDogma he wouldn't have been sued for an absurd 2 billion and dragged through the streets if he was a fed. They're doing everything short of knocking him off to try and discredit/shut him up
This guys got a ride from his wife's boyfriend to Joe's place.
This dude sounds like stewie 😂😂😂
Joe used to be a huge conspiracy theorists how much money did it take to main stream JRE?
bet they threatened him
Oh yeah true, he was into conspiracy theories;I think he just doesn't worry about it and really busy most of the time.
hes his own boss as well as being ufc's bitch that's it.... id like some proof but you don't have any.
theres no way to prove conspiracies about the elite because theyre gangsters, its not gonna be written in a letter or in the public eye, bet someone called him or told him in person
Maybe he just read more and more, spoke with literally 1,000s of people - including astrophysicists - and he's decided the moon landing is most likely real, and Sandy hook most likely happened.
Hes not doing a very good job covering it up by attempting to ridicule it
Ronson is so Hell bent on having Rogan Speak about If Alex speaks with Trump, and that whole thing, I just love how Rogan just shuts it down with He's my friend- which is the definition to me of a true friend , you don't have to agree with the entirety of a human being to enjoy their company
I feel like his name should be Ron Jonson.
9:19 I like that Jon Ronson is good-natured about this, but with all due respect to Joe Rogan, I think he's too soft on Alex Jones. I think AJ bit off more than he could chew with the Sandy Hook thing because he's so used to just letting crazy stuff fly right out of his mouth without having to face any direct accountability or consequences. Judging by how easily Ronson and co. snuck into the Grove, plus with how old the members/attendees are, my conclusion is that the members stopped caring about people sneaking in a long time ago because they enjoy the company. Then AJ screwed the pooch by smearing the Cremation of Care as a Luciferian-Satanic ritual by globalists.
You can all think what you want, but the ritual is just a mock pagan ritual. Why? The attendees have been largely, if not entirely, Protestant, and the Grove became owned by wealthy men many decades ago. The club members are all old, rich men who live stressful lives who desperately want some semblance, no matter how temporary, to their glory days in college/university. The perfect way for them to stick it to the Man is a mock pagan ritual.
PBD and many others need to have Ronson on their podcasts as a guests because the reality is that Alex Jones, David Icke, Mark "Dice" Shouldice, and so many others peddle conspiracies because that's what generates revenue, and the conspiracies are far more comforting than the truth: there are no shadowy elites controlling society from a tiny room because the world is controlled by the market. Even the more well-meaning guys like Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, et al will still peddle a facsimile of Jones's conspiracies because that's what generates revenue.
No one else’s skin crawling after watching this guy?
Why?
Because he’s a weasel
This is so fun to watch now, Joes position on the media, conspiracy theories has changed so much 😂
What do you mean
@@kalithechamp1412 He's got worse, more like eddie
It's an effigy of a human they are burning.... Not just a bundle of sticks. Symbolism is everything to these people.
@timwins31 Moloch.
@timwins31 Giant Idol with various forms (bull, Cronos+others) with a fiery basin that they threw babies into. Bohemian owl is very similar.
5 more episodes and your at 1000 congratulations.
Joey diaz tom segura good guests but a bit of a let down for 1000
IzJoe ikr wtf
IzJoe i was hoping for chapelle :(
IzJoe seriously? there are so many more people he could have on that would have been way better. 😕
IzJoe I agree but joey is one of his best friends, can't blame him for wanting to share it with him, wish he had more people on at least tho. Duncan trussel was given 666 haha
Alex usually has some way of backing up his claims because if he didn't he knows the media would call him out. But yes Alex is very excited and passionate and entertaining to watch or listen to.
He is on Odysee it's another platform like RUclips.
I really do like Alex. He seems like a good guy. I hope everything works out for him.
He’s the cutest boy 👦
Did you not catch 9:19 ? Ronson says that Alex Jones knew that the Bohemian Grove was just a silly frat party, but he just couldn't tell his listeners that. AJ's been heavily corrupt since 2001, if not earlier.
I love the videos and documentaries including what Jon is talking about here, and they're still easy to find.
@Peter G Where?
I love Alex Jones for theater and for news that MSM does not cover
They cover it once and Alex notices and keeps track of the stories. His claims don't become true, they just become acknowledged reality.
I love Alex Jones! No one is right all the time, but he isn't a liar as you both accused him of being, which is more than I can say for the MSM.
He's a liar, you're obviously an idiot.
Wow, you got me there. Your opinion is obviously more important than my own. How have I ever got through life without you? #sarcasm #OpinionsAreLikeAssholes
There is a huge difference betweena conspiracy and a 'conspiracy theory'. The latter is a speculation, the former is a reality.
"Con" means with.
"Spire" means to breathe.
So conspire means to breath out - to plan an actual event with at least one other person in secrecy in order to gain an advantage over others.
This episode right here is the clip/episode that got me into watching Rogan.
That guy never snuck in. At least what I’ve seen it was Alex and Hanson that went in he did the episode secret rulers of the world episode.
Ummm yes he did. He even talked with Alex about it afterwards. You weirdo. There is video of them both there.
Whoa Rogan, when you said 'Paranoia inducing", that just made me understand this in a different way. I've never felt paranoid from consumption, and I thought those were old personal experiences from the 70's, but they were probably people labeled paranoid from others when they experienced awakening to the forces at work in our world due to consumption.
Till today, I don’t understand how Alex Jones is still alive
Bc hes working w em
@@HumilityListens if he’s working with them why would they ban him on all social media platforms?
I seen Alex do a impression of this dude and it’s actually spot on 😂
I don’t mean this in a demeaning way but holy crap Jon looks like John Lennon. Lol
All the hate for Jon Ronson are from people that have no idea what good journalism is. This is sad, Jon is a straight up good guy that doesn't spread bullshit
Think about it: the 4th dimension is time. And two years later Jon publicly thrashtalked Alex. Maybe Alex was just interdimensionally foreseeing things
Joe Rogans impression of Alex Jones is spot on
Plot Twist: Alex is the true Conspiratorial Ring Leader of the Bohemian Club!
nah but it would be funny though XD
In the very beginning it sounds like he's not even speaking english
"I have friends with this issue."
That's one way to avoid saying Eddie Bravo.
This is my first time seeing this JRE! I read Jon Ronson’s book when I was a wee teen in the 90’s. That was the first time I had a glimpse beyond the veil! I remember there was different adventures with different people. The only one that stuck with me forever is Bohemian Grove cuz it was EXTRAORDINARILY WEIRD . When I saw the video a decade later I realized how CREEPY and UNSETTLING it truly is!
look its dr schekelberg!
joe 'alex jones said theres child slaves on mars (even though a guest on his show said it and he didnt agree)' rogan
Holy shit this is the guy that wrote the men who stare at goats that movie was hilarious as a child
Why is Jon so adamant on dogging Alex any chance he can?
Well idk all too much about this due at the moment. But from watching this video, it seems to me like he's trying to pull a sweep everything under the carpet for the elites. Seems like a sketchy ass snake to me, I dont like him right off the bat.
He wouldn't even touch thr grove unless Alex Jones went in with him, and after they did, he's pretty much done nothing but slander Alex.
Keep in mind that, while Alex will run into a story head first, his story about the gove, seems to be the one that's been most consistently retold over the years (along with whatever footage is supposedly out there.)
Threatened and protecting evil
It's dangerous to question everything
Jonoliver it's dangerous to accept all answers
Isaiah I don’t think that where he was getting at, think he was trying to say that the answers to some questions will be so bad that’s it’d destroy every fabric of your being
"It is a cult if old rich people sit and watch a ritual about an owl!"
Hundreds of thousands of Americans paint their faces and worship a guy throwing a pigs bladder at a giant fork every sunday.
What does this even mean?
@@masonsuarez7096 football?
@@jonanderson5137 wtf does it have it have to do with literal rituals being done in cloaks in secret in the forest? All of them rich elites who have also been tied to child trafficking and pedo rings. How does your brain even tie the two together the guy sounds like a moron lmao
This guy looks like a younger Roger Stone lmao. He even has the glasses
Harry potter likes bun length dogs...
Yeah, I'm not gonna trust somebody who looks like a Bond villain says about a place where children are most likely sacrificed on the regular, chief.
I know Jon from This American LIfe, he's a frequent contributor; very interesting dude, great documentaries.
11:40 You do understand. You just can't point it out, Or you lose your fame too.
He clowns Alex but he built his whole career around him. Joe Rogan doesn't agree with everything he does but at least he doesn't laugh behind his back and piggy back off his accomplishments. Nobody wold know this dudes name if it wasn't for AJ.
Pretty sure Jon wrote about Alex back in the 90's before he was a well know person?
If I hear how many years Joe's been friends with Alex again..
my dad was initiated into bein a higher up freemason,,,,,he died of heart attack a week later. my uncle said the initiation was intense....wtf???
The movie Skulls was kinda good. It's about weird groups like this
I know Joe doesn't, but to say nothing is a conspiracy is as crazy as saying everything is a conspiracy.
Alex's biggest probs comes from having to fill 8+hous of airtime. his reporting used to be more rock solid when just doing 3hrs on shortwave.
An Owl Santuary? This dude sounds way more crazy than Alex Jones.
I don't really care if there is a black/white/etc. Santa, but In reality: Santa Claus was based on the legends of St. Nicholas from Turkey.
I wouldn't let that guy near my kids
1MNUTZ First you would actually need to get near a woman before any talk of kids.
wow 75hoya, 8 lines of text with not a single period, exclamation mark, or comma. you are a genius of undiscovered depth.
You're an idiot.
so what guy would you "let around your kids"?
Jake Farron Merlin definitely not you that's for damn sure
Molech is NOT an owl god. Molech is a horned, bull headed god with a human body. The owl is likely from the Eleusinian mysteries (rape of Persephone) or possibly the owl of Athena.
@Ben Dover No it has not. Citation please.
@Ben Dover The problem with these sources that assert Moloch/Molech is depicted as an owl is that they are not academic. Secondly, I challenge anyone to produce a source of an owl Moloch that predates Alex Jones infiltration into the Bohemian Grove.
Outside of the Torah (Old Testament), there really isn't too much information about Moloch. It's fair to say that even the most firm assertions regarding Moloch are rather shakey.
@Ben Dover The performance.at Bohemian Grove is esoteric theater. It's not a ritual as much as a performance. In today's church, children and adults will celebrate Christmas and Easter with a stage performance. It's a celebration, but it's a confusing celebration if the audience is completely unaware of the Christian mysteries- death and rebirth. Likewise, the most ancient, as well as the most important of all esoteric sects is the mystery of death and rebirth. Unless you have some understanding of these mysteries, the occult will remain veiled. What is seen in Bohemian Grove is theater that is most likely performed by an exclusive group (eg priests, initiates). The group crosses over one of the five rivers in the underworld. This is the home of Hades and, for a time, Persephone/Kore. Ascalaphus would be turned into an owl by Persephone (or Demeter depending on the text) for telling the gods on Persephone for eating pomegranate seeds. As an owl Ascalaphus became the familiar of Hades. The basic exoteric story is interesting on it's own. From this point you can work forward to Aleister Crowley and the Roman Catholic church or you can work backwards all the way to Osiris and Isis, and perhaps Nimrod.
I have a modest library that is built from academic, (moatly) post graduate resources that span anthropology, comparative studies of (dead and alive) religions, western mysticism/NAM, black magick, Christian and comparative religion eschatology.
@Ben Dover The guys from Ancient Aliens are mystics that claim to channel people like Edgar Casey and a particular race of aliens. I find the vast majority of the "evidence" supporting the ancient alien narrative is nothing more than one logical fallacy after the other. The irony is that the whole camp that came after "Chariots On Fire" may say that the gods were actually aliens, but the reality is that they practice black magick.
Today we call them demons and angels. Tomorrow they will call them something else.
That's an Aleister Crowley ad lib from 100 years ago.
Now read this:
www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/mvpvyn/magickal-stories-lam
I do believe that there was a pre Adamite race. Demonology requires pre Adamites. Biblical Demonology by Merrill Unger is a short and concise read.
Anyway, just wanted to give you different things to consider rather than a misidentified owl statue.
Enjoy the rabbit hole.
Hey. At least were talking about Alex Jones.
Calling Alex Jones crazy coming from the guy who takes fucking DMT sees shit trips out all the time and he even took Psilocybin c'mon guy big paid for groups try to shut Alex down and fuck up his home life for taking things out of context, researching things and having a different opinion on stuff and for actually proving stuff and when he's being wrong about some things they never let him live it down I love Alex Jones he's brave and he knows who he is and where he stands he's for God and he's not a wishy washy sellout who would throw his friends under the bus for not agreeing with an opinion or seeing things differently like Joe Rogan when he talks about Alex or Eddie
Trump should be on his knees blowing Alex Jones, Infowars got Trump ATLEAST 2 million votes he wouldn't have got if it wasn't for their support. Who else got Trump that many supporters?
Exaggeration is always BAD when you CLAIM to being communicating TRUTH. NO matter who it comes from.
More or less Bohemian Grove seems to be something like a Burning-Man festival of another scene? "You gonna
Real or fake its still disturbing.
They don't think child sacrifice goes on at Bohemian Grove? HAHAHA
Pizzagate News
Are you a real channel or just the best troll ever?
I mean everything I've seen on your channel is just the most inane blathering I've ever heard
They preform ancient dick magic on the kids, it prevents wrinkles.
banned is this where all the foreskins go?
Pizzagate News child sacrifice is good we need more of it
HAHAHA? Where's any evidence?
This guy Jon is a propagandist. He is Not shooting straight and I don't trust him!
Wyd only 300 likes this a great show👍👍👍👍👍
But isn’t Santa Claus based off like European folklore so I imagine he would be a fair skinned man
No way it’s a owl sanctuary that’s just way too convenient
Yeah just an owl sanctuary with signs nailed into the trees that have Latin writing and a skull on it lol
Y’all are a hoot!
This guy gives me “intelligence” vibes.
The weed is 100% stronger, trust me. That’s not because I approve of it or anything, but the amount of people who actually enjoy weed now is much higher, as am I, and every story from an old person is about how bad the weed was back then. So as a self-proclaimed scientist, I must give my opinion that the weed today is indisputably better than it was 50 years ago. Thanks Obama/Soros
The Court of Owls is real where is Batman YO!!!!
Jon Ronson has more balls than all of you put together. He's an Irish journalist who puts himself right into the thick of things. Find out more about him through Google, you should be impressed.
Mark Mazer agree ;) don’t mind this guy at all
He's Welsh you silly sausage
Hahaha, find out through Google! 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine seeing that stuff and calling it bullshit. People like him are why they don't feel the need to be more secretive because they've trained the average person to call everything bullshit regardless of the evidence.
Exactly alex joe ron are all working w the feds
Molech was a god that people sacrificed babies to in ancient times.