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  • @SusieQ3
    @SusieQ3 3 года назад +1275

    I dated a guy who, at the very beginning, insisted on setting healthy sexual boundaries. He saw me as a daughter and image bearer of God. Also, he treated me, and every woman he encountered every day with the utmost respect. I married him. Best decision of my life!

    • @MatachiMmeri
      @MatachiMmeri 3 года назад +45

      😫Lucky , where can I find someone like that?

    • @airikkalerofficial
      @airikkalerofficial 3 года назад +22

      Freaking amazing !! That's what I love to hear

    • @lukewoodard3189
      @lukewoodard3189 3 года назад +16

      That’s awesome 😎

    • @AK-kg1es
      @AK-kg1es 3 года назад +70

      @@MatachiMmeri pray to GOD, He will provide a man who will not insult you even when he’s angry because he has much more respect and love, a man who considers you as one of his best treasure from GOD, loves you and honours you, cares for you and respects you, doesn’t use you as a sexual object and doesn’t looks at other women, someone who’s perfect for you and just loves you right, but before he comes make sure you pray and put efforts that you will be a perfect wife, partner, lover, companion, best friend for him. In Jesus name

    • @MatachiMmeri
      @MatachiMmeri 3 года назад +7

      @@AK-kg1es Amen, thank you 😊

  • @cfrost87
    @cfrost87 3 года назад +763

    Modesty isn't just how we dress. It's also about what's going on in our hearts and minds and those things will be reflected in our behavior.

    • @NightOwl_-xk3nw
      @NightOwl_-xk3nw 3 года назад +32

      The sad part is most people aren't modest at all no more

    • @EclypseXx
      @EclypseXx 3 года назад +9

      @@NightOwl_-xk3nw amen, it’s true.

    • @barbaramoran8690
      @barbaramoran8690 3 года назад +10

      FASHION INDUSTRY MAKES GIRLS VULNERABLE CONVINCING GIRLS THAT THEY HAVE TO WEAR DEGRADING CLOTHES IN ORDER TO BE FASHIONABLE.NO ONE PRESSURES MEN TO WEAR UNCOMFORTABLE AND ACTUALLY UGLY CLOTHES.TO ME REALLY SHORT DRESSES ARE LIKE EXPECTING GIRLS TO WEAR CLOTHES LIKE BABY CLOTHES.CLOTHES ARE MEANT TO PROTECT THE BODY NOT EXPLOIT IT.

    • @NightOwl_-xk3nw
      @NightOwl_-xk3nw 3 года назад +1

      @@barbaramoran8690 I agree.

    • @NightOwl_-xk3nw
      @NightOwl_-xk3nw 3 года назад +2

      @@EclypseXx it so sad it has to be true. But that just means the end is almost here

  • @ShawnaSweets94
    @ShawnaSweets94 3 года назад +728

    I just want to personally say thank you. I used to cry ever night because my virginity was taken from me. It made me angry at christianity and I threw away the importance of staying pure because I thought I had already failed.

    • @cristianna_jasmyn
      @cristianna_jasmyn 3 года назад +73

      I'm so sorry that happened to you.

    • @YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr
      @YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamr 3 года назад +106

      no no no you didn't fail...your virginity being taken from you is not the same as you giving it away
      my virginity was stolen as well when i was younger and it was awful ..... believe me you didn't anything wrong when that happened....may The Lord heal you and bless you in Jesus name amen

    • @mur8255
      @mur8255 3 года назад +63

      you didn't fail,remember that most women Jesus saved weren't virgin, the arms of Jesus are open for you always!:)

    • @charlisepetersen9766
      @charlisepetersen9766 3 года назад +27

      God loves you, no matter what. ❤🥰

    • @rockstarburne
      @rockstarburne 3 года назад +8

      i understand the point he was tryna to make and I'm sorry for what happened to you. maybe i just haven't seen whats truly said out there but i don't believe that the people pressuring on purity would view you as less than when it was taken from you, you didn't choose to give it away. so i get some of the points hes saying i just dont beleive that thats what people truly think

  • @vickgomes6753
    @vickgomes6753 3 года назад +721

    Another thing that bothers me, in church when it comes to girls we don't talk about pornography and lust on that way. We assume that boys struggle with this, and to us, women, is simply keep our virginity. But purity is so much more than that. And it's horrible because when we don't talk about it, a girl that struggles with this kind of problem feels like trash because she feels like she is alone.
    We need to talk about that inside the church. The healing begin when we recognize our sin, and if someone feels that he/she is alone on this, they may never open up about it :/

    • @butdoyouknowjesus4121
      @butdoyouknowjesus4121 3 года назад +15

      Very true. ❤️

    • @supersassy9441
      @supersassy9441 3 года назад +68

      @@everythingsgonnabealright7924 see i would disagree with that. i don’t think boys are necessarily more sexual, it’s just guys are more open about it. you’d be surprised to see a lot of woman with porn addictions, some even more than guys. It’s just that girls get shamed for it and guys get kinda praised so woman tend to hide their sexual side more.

    • @everythingsgonnabealright7924
      @everythingsgonnabealright7924 3 года назад +6

      @@supersassy9441 I couldn't disagree more. It's been biologically proven men are more sexual than women and it's also basic common sense. You disagreeing with that is basically you saying dozens and probably hundreds of scientists/researchers are wrong, and you are right.

    • @supersassy9441
      @supersassy9441 3 года назад +41

      @@everythingsgonnabealright7924 you said porn is more of a guy problem which just isn’t true. when ppl say stuff like that it makes girls who struggle with it seem alone and isolated. so many girls struggle with it but it’s not accounted for bc like i said, girls hide it more and guys are more open about it. it’s a struggle for both guys and girls

    • @mannss42884
      @mannss42884 3 года назад +22

      @@everythingsgonnabealright7924 people don't just watch porn bc they are sexual beings... they watch porn bc they are lonely, it gets your dopamine rolling... then once it gets you hooked you keep watching bc it's easy. Women are becoming addicted at alarming rates. Why, bc we are human and our brains work the same when it comes to a drug...porn is a new drug/escape..

  • @gastonreboredo9408
    @gastonreboredo9408 3 года назад +276

    “I’m not concerned with being balanced, I’m concerned with being biblical” 🙏🏼

  • @shakirasunnybub
    @shakirasunnybub 3 года назад +138

    I didnt realize I had been affected by purity culture until I lost my virginity to my husband when we got married and still felt like I lost something and was no longer innocent 🤨. It took a while for me to finally convince myself that I wasn't doing anything wrong.

    • @deesott5123
      @deesott5123 2 года назад +5

      Wow!

    • @dolphina3794
      @dolphina3794 2 года назад +5

      Wow x2

    • @mobolajiade-aina8643
      @mobolajiade-aina8643 2 года назад +13

      That is messed up. Hope you're doing better now.

    • @browniebrownbqueen8871
      @browniebrownbqueen8871 2 года назад +9

      Thank you because I felt that way of if one day I loose my virginity to my husband I won't be pure , innocent and naive anymore,God bless you 🙏

    • @Jay_0605
      @Jay_0605 2 года назад +16

      Yeah unfortunately it is very common. I've heard a lot of women say this. But the Bible teaches God created it to be enjoyed by a man and a woman IN marriage.

  • @michaelekemp6679
    @michaelekemp6679 3 года назад +242

    I think something we don't acknowledge enough is intimacy with God. Intimacy with God is unlike any other form of intimacy and the more of it you have, that is to say, the closer you draw to God, the easier it becomes to apply His principles. Yes, some things you will have to consciously decide against and leave behind, but in my experience, when you build on your relationship with God, you tend to naturally, for example, dress more modestly, swear less, or even just have a greater disdain for worldly things. It is not always easy of course because we get tempted and fall into bad habits, but this deserves to be brought up; it is so encouraging to know that Jesus takes that heavy load from you so that you can strive to live a holy life.

    • @christinenulliah918
      @christinenulliah918 3 года назад +9

      I feel the same way 💕

    • @kamerondoherty6181
      @kamerondoherty6181 3 года назад +4

      True

    • @jezusova
      @jezusova 3 года назад +3

      amen!

    • @Omegha94zip
      @Omegha94zip 3 года назад +3

      Very well said! Amen!!!!

    • @wake4082
      @wake4082 3 года назад

      *The idea of "modesty" is an absolute joke. God created us to be fully naked with NO SHAME and it was only when we started seeing the world through our eyes rather than through God's eyes that we started viewing our bodies as disgraceful. 99% of clothing has nothing to do with trying to be sexy, it's just the person wearing what makes them comfortable. Clothing doesn't influence evil actions, immoral character does.*

  • @deespence8629
    @deespence8629 3 года назад +128

    I find this purity culture so strange. I became a Christian as a young woman in the 1980’s. Purity wasn’t talked about..ie what you wear , how you act etc… I went to a large evangelical church and really enjoyed going to church and the singles ministry. Our emphasis was on drawing closer to God and discipleship. No one dressed inappropriately or acted inappropriately! We fellowshipped and learned about the Bible. I guess what I’m trying to say is if our focus is on the Lord then everything else falls into place.. such as modesty etc…

    • @EclypseXx
      @EclypseXx 3 года назад +12

      If only more Churches would do that, especially now

    • @deespence8629
      @deespence8629 3 года назад +4

      @@EclypseXx I agree

    • @user-vl7fm8ck2m
      @user-vl7fm8ck2m 3 года назад +1

      EXACTLY 💯

    • @darthvader5532
      @darthvader5532 2 года назад +1

      That applies to you, but not to people around you in public. Modesty wasn't just instituted for you, but for everyone you come into contact with.

    • @deespence8629
      @deespence8629 Год назад +1

      @Static I agree

  • @DylanMichaelToddMusic
    @DylanMichaelToddMusic 3 года назад +74

    I heard a powerful story once of a Pastor or Youth Leader giving the "Withered Rose/Used Car Example." They were basically saying whenever you have sex with more people you look like a withering Rose. And the phrase this teacher actually said was like this, "No one wants a withered, used up Rose." And someone in the congregation screamed back, "JESUS WANTS THE ROSE!"
    I had this same idea jammed into my head, that basically however much you have sinned sexually the less valuable you are. It has screwed me up and my thinking. As a young teenager, and young adult, I struggled heavily with Porn, and committing sexual sins with girlfriends. Those sins did really hurt my view of sexuality. But, Jesus is repairing and making right that view. I have come so far from who I once was. That "used car/withered rose" mentality made me believe I would never be sexually good enough for my wife, and I was "devalued" or "spoiled goods" for my sin. This thought process of purity culture has good intentions, but it is a horrible way to teach it. I think the example I gave should be a standard when teaching purity. You can state the good, holy goal of remaining Pure. But, just like every single one of us. We all need Jesus. We all have fallen short of the glory of God. In many ways we have all failed to sin. We are all in need of a Savior. Sexual Sin is NOT any more of a sin than other sins. Yes, I know the verse about it being a sin against your own body. But, the penalty is still the same. For the Wages of Sin is Death. But, thanks be to God for Christ Jesus who bore our sins and paid I debt. Your a beautiful person made in the image of God. And no matter if you have been steeped in sexual sin your whole life, or you are a thief, or you are crippled by addiction, or maybe you're a murderer like Paul. Remember this, "died for ALL your sins, he wants to meet you where you are. There is no Withered, and unwithered roses. We are all stained by our sins, and Christis our Savior to cleanse us. of that sin.
    Sorry for the long comment, This "Withered Rose" example really helped me understand Purity Culture, and I figured it would help someone else.

    • @christianwalls6175
      @christianwalls6175 3 года назад +4

      My youth pastor was even worse than that. He asked the boys and I in the group to hawk a lugi into a bucket and asked if any of us wanted to drink it and then compared women who had sex with other men to the bucket

    • @DylanMichaelToddMusic
      @DylanMichaelToddMusic 3 года назад +10

      Whoa, that’s brutal! Why couldn’t these youth Pastors not see that they are degrading someone who might be sexual broken. There are so many people who struggle with many sexual sins, and they practically are telling them they are worthless. Like NO Jesus wants each one of us regardless of our past. Crazy, I want to be sure in the future I approach these topics delicately with unbelievers.

    • @christianwalls6175
      @christianwalls6175 3 года назад +1

      @@DylanMichaelToddMusic it was disgusting and when I think about it now it truly disgusts me he could talk like that.

    • @DylanMichaelToddMusic
      @DylanMichaelToddMusic 3 года назад +2

      Yes, I understand that, sorry you had to go through that. But, at least now you know what Christ love certainly doesn’t look like and not to make that mistake. I’m sure many youth pastors had good intention but did not actually think through their metaphors through the Lense of Christ. Just shows how failed we are as humans.

    • @lindaeasley5606
      @lindaeasley5606 2 года назад +3

      @@christianwalls6175 That is the wrong way to view immoral women . Permiscuity is not a gender thing.Its a human problem.God loves everyone even if they are sinners and does not even view loose women in such low terminology .Jesus defended a prostitute against a mob who wanted to stone her to death.
      God doesn't want anyone 's fate to be the second death That's why Christ died on the Cross.We all must repent and turn to Christ

  • @_.tabitha
    @_.tabitha 3 года назад +133

    I am a victim of sexual assault and my mom said it was my fault . Thank you !

    • @SoybeanAK
      @SoybeanAK 2 года назад +27

      I'm so sorry. Sounds like you've come to terms but it doesn't change the hurt of having someone who should've modeled love for you, missing the mark so badly.

    • @_.tabitha
      @_.tabitha 2 года назад +10

      SoybeanAK Hey there ! I appreciate that . Thank you 😊

    • @marcellofunhouse1234
      @marcellofunhouse1234 2 года назад

      You sure your mom isn't a narccist?

    • @malgrosskreuz01
      @malgrosskreuz01 Год назад

      I am so sorry

    • @_.tabitha
      @_.tabitha Год назад

      Thanks for the love ❤️

  • @jacobmerrill7382
    @jacobmerrill7382 3 года назад +61

    What purity culture does to men is exactly what Adam set a precedent of within our spiritual nature. Instead of taking responsibility for our shortcomings as men, the blame has been shifted to women. I used to fall in line with the idea that women need to dress modestly because of guys being the way they are, but over time, God has softened my heart to see that the sole issue is not women dressing provocatively, but guys looking at women with lust. Yes, women dressing provocatively is something we should reject in the church. We should make that known, but the reasoning for it is not because men are "visual creatures." I can understand the argument that women should try to dress with modesty because we are to be set apart from the world. I can also see the argument that they need to dress modestly because it's disingenuous to live according to your flesh and proclaim to be a Christian. What I cannot see is telling women that they need to do it for men and men alone. Yes. Try not to cause a brother or sister to stumble, but how can you make sure that standard fits when every man is different? Some men may not care at all. Some men may need to gouge their eyes out cause everything they look at is turned perverse. It's too much pressure to put on someone, especially when a lot of them are not even trying to seduce men.
    At the end of the day, this issue stems from men not filling their roles correctly. Us men have a HUGE responsibility when it comes to being spiritual leaders within the church and within our own families. As men, we need to fight against rampant sex culture so that it does not corrupt our youth as to not pervert our young boys and girls. As men, we need to lead by example like Apostle Paul did with his churches ("Imitate me as I imitate Christ"). As men we need to take responsibility when we are in the wrong. This is one of those times. It's not a woman's fault that we lust over her. When we start shifting the blame on others in the body of Christ, it shows we are less spiritual leaders and more spiritual tyrants.
    What did Joseph do when tempted by the Potiphar's wife? He didn't turn around and go "Hey now, Mrs. Potiphar's wife. You need to dress more modestly, so I don't look at your body in a sexual way!" He ran from it. We must flee from sexual immorality and perversion. Well what does that mean? It means that when we are faced with lust, we must flee from the LUST, not the woman per se, (unless ofc she is actually trying to trap you and sexually manipulate you) and run to God for direction. An example in our modern lives is when dating. When guys get the urge to want to do sexual things with their girlfriend, they shouldn't hide from it or stop being around their significant other. Men should instead run to God for direction, in turn fleeing from the sexual perversion facing them.

    • @dolphina3794
      @dolphina3794 2 года назад +2

      I 💯% agree

    • @Stew91
      @Stew91 2 года назад +6

      @Jacob, I feel like the biggest problem with your argument, is that you're making this a completely on sided issue. Let me explain. Men need to learn how to control their ideas. However; if a woman is dressing immodestly, their heart is not right, and they need to get it right with God. *REGARDLESS* of if a man is not lusting, if a woman is dressing immodestly, they they are failing to live up to the standard that God wants them and elevating them. With the issue of modesty, this is NEVER talked about it's only "MEN SHOULDNT LUST", when people fail to forget that a woman has a responsibility to not dress proactively, *FOR THE SAKE OF PLEASING GOD*

    • @bipn_406
      @bipn_406 2 года назад +1

      @@Stew91 Amen! And Amen again!

  • @Grace-hw7zt
    @Grace-hw7zt 3 года назад +161

    I’m so glad I found this channel

    • @si_a_to2086
      @si_a_to2086 3 года назад

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    • @christinenulliah918
      @christinenulliah918 3 года назад +1

      Same 🙌🏽

    • @JoJoisSolo
      @JoJoisSolo 3 года назад +1

      Same :)

    • @ruvimbopasi6214
      @ruvimbopasi6214 3 года назад +3

      Me and you both, I've been over consuming senseless shorts😭 and im tired. I want more of this🤸🏾‍♀️

    • @kamerondoherty6181
      @kamerondoherty6181 3 года назад +4

      For me I think God showed us this channel but I am thankful for the amazing content

  • @dmp762
    @dmp762 3 года назад +157

    I grew up in church in the 90's and 00's.
    I never once heard a pastor say a man's lust was the woman's fault.
    And I always heard that sex before marriage is wrong regardless if you're a man or woman.

    • @user-vl7fm8ck2m
      @user-vl7fm8ck2m 3 года назад +14

      Same, my church never said any of that stuff...what church do these people be going at?💀

    • @user-vl7fm8ck2m
      @user-vl7fm8ck2m 3 года назад +1

      @Lee oh
      Ok👌🏾

    • @spilledsalt
      @spilledsalt 3 года назад +2

      However I have never been pulled aside by pastors to have a talk about this with but girls who are aren’t even dating have been.

    • @dericksmith2603
      @dericksmith2603 3 года назад +3

      @@spilledsalt I have. I was told by pastors to save my virginity for the marriage bed just as much as girls.

    • @Blazedasonic
      @Blazedasonic 2 года назад +4

      GOOD. You go to a great church

  • @T-She-Go
    @T-She-Go 3 года назад +160

    Don’t ✍️ be ✍️ concerned ✍️ about ✍️ being ✍️balanced, ✍️ be concerned ✍️ about being ✍️ BIBLICAL ✍️
    Thanks Isaac 🙌🏾

    • @marcellofunhouse1234
      @marcellofunhouse1234 2 года назад

      So its okay to hit a slave? Got it

    • @r.walker7986
      @r.walker7986 8 месяцев назад

      if only the bible was no so heavily tampered with by man...

    • @felobatirmoheb4884
      @felobatirmoheb4884 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@r.walker7986 If it was, sins wouldn't be clearly defined.

  • @chachamoon2831
    @chachamoon2831 3 года назад +153

    You have a face found in beautiful paintings, like classical ones. Sorry if that’s weird.

    • @gm836
      @gm836 3 года назад +51

      He looks like a man from the Bible itself.

    • @MHammonds18
      @MHammonds18 3 года назад +37

      facts lol, he looks straight out of the Roman empire.

    • @butdoyouknowjesus4121
      @butdoyouknowjesus4121 3 года назад +37

      lol to me he looks like what people think Jesus looks like, if that makes sense 🤓

    • @kisha4256
      @kisha4256 3 года назад +4

      @@butdoyouknowjesus4121 true.

    • @Astro_Mickey
      @Astro_Mickey 3 года назад +15

      @@MHammonds18 plot twist: he’s a time traveler from the time of Jesus

  • @celestetoliver9031
    @celestetoliver9031 3 года назад +80

    I remember being told that just about every guy was imagining me naked. I think it made me believe that I had to set that bar really low. Many Christian girls just think they have to settle for a guy who's allowing porn to rule constantly in his life, and a lot of similar teaching made me very distrustful of guys. This idea that guys can hardly help themselves, etc. So many Christian men seem to just see me as a good marriage opportunity instead of as a person. Unfortunately I, too, often feel like I'm evaluating every guy as a marriage opportunity instead of a person. I wish we'd learned (instead of purity culture but also instead of the sexual revolution culture) that sex isn't the best thing that'll happen in our lives. It's not the most important thing to revolve our identities around.
    In dating, gender identity, premarital abstinence, etc. it's so important to find our identity and our purpose in Christ. As a woman, I don't need to wait until I'm married to start my life and ministry. I am a Christian, and my abundant life is NOW. Would it be wonderful to have a great marriage and sex life? Absolutely. I'd have no complaints if that entered my life. But I can simultaneously recognize that sex and the pursuit of happiness can never trump the truth and contentment found in the Gospel of Christ.

    • @janen0ceros
      @janen0ceros 3 года назад +2

      You can't imagine how true this is. Its the truth and nothing less. Wow.

    • @las8883
      @las8883 3 года назад +13

      This is such a great comment and really speaks to how many Christians do idolize marriage and think that's when their life really starts when it's not true at all.

    • @rebeccajones651
      @rebeccajones651 2 года назад +2

      If I could give this comment 10 thumbs up I would. You are so absolutely correct!

    • @dragoni1873
      @dragoni1873 2 года назад +1

      Amen, could have not put it better

    • @madisoncarlson310
      @madisoncarlson310 2 года назад +2

      This comment is amazing

  • @gracel316
    @gracel316 2 года назад +26

    I once tried to have a conversation with my boss about the gospel, he took my interest on his salvation wrong and asked me out (he's was about 50 and I was about 25) I refused and I later got fired. What surprised me was that people on my church said it was my fault because I never should've talked to him in the first place and "it's not like he asked me to sleep with him". I never once talked to him about anything that wasn't related to the Bible or work and what he did was illegal yet I'm supposedly guilty for what he did.

    • @nathanielruegsegger6176
      @nathanielruegsegger6176 2 года назад +7

      you did the absolute right thing. we are here on earth as believers largely to share the Gospel, knowing we can be chastised or even martyred for it. sorry it happened that way, but what you did is quite respectable imo

    • @Landis_Grant
      @Landis_Grant Год назад +1

      Every interaction between a man and a woman has sexual tension which could lead to sex. That’s why Mike Pence said he has his wife present whenever he has to meet another woman.

  • @loveycat5474
    @loveycat5474 3 года назад +13

    The man who wrote "I kissed dating Goodbye" fallen from the faith. So much for staying pure.

  • @tpark9626
    @tpark9626 3 года назад +51

    Purity culture really made life difficult for me. It become so that purity became part of who I was and my worth. I couldn’t handle the switch from it being so very wrong to being good and expected after getting married. 13 years of marriage and 2 children later it still feels dirty and shameful.

    • @tilakmadichettitheappdeveloper
      @tilakmadichettitheappdeveloper 3 года назад

      so...u regret not having sex before ? (be honest, if you do ':p)

    • @MrsDazl
      @MrsDazl 3 года назад +7

      Can totally relate. I've heard many women say this same thing

    • @gbd-oq1rz
      @gbd-oq1rz 2 года назад

      Honor it but make it your everything

    • @r.walker7986
      @r.walker7986 8 месяцев назад

      This is the story for most people, it's becasue most of it is man-made and not really from God. Most of religion is embellishments and man-made, self serving additions that are more about establishing a culture that serves an powerstructure than actually communing with God. Its unfortunate to watch something that is supposed to bring peace bring so many strife and heartache. its best to establish your own relationship with God and be really careful about the "middlemen" ....

  • @kathryncook7193
    @kathryncook7193 3 года назад +39

    Purity is not something you lose, it's something you strive for. I also think women shouldn't be a stumbling block for our brothers in Christ by dressing extremely sexually. However I don't blame women for men's lust. There's responsibility on both sides.

    • @chemforumlachimie6754
      @chemforumlachimie6754 3 года назад

      This is not the TRUTH
      Paul said that if eating meat would cause others to sin, he would not eat meat while the world stands! He did not ignore the issue of others while focusing on God. I'm sorry but this teaching has a kind of appeal but it is not exactly what scripture teaches. Scripture places women responsible for dressing in such a manner as to limit the tendency of lusting in men. Paul did not say that those who fell into sin of going against their conscinces to eat meat were personally responsible, and so, for him, their sin wouldn't be his responsibility

    • @kathryncook7193
      @kathryncook7193 3 года назад +15

      @@chemforumlachimie6754 Like I said, women have an obligation to not be a stumbling block to men. Men have an obligation to not let their thoughts wander. If you are saying that men are not sinning when they hold last in their heart and that it is only women, that is not true either. I mention both. There is responsibility on both ends.

    • @20yrs_oldBlackGuy
      @20yrs_oldBlackGuy 2 года назад

      @@kathryncook7193 Women who dress immodestly should be incarcerated because the men that harrass them shouldn't have to take accountability for what ever they don't to them girls, I mean the girls were provocative stirring up my hormones and shi.

  • @mmartens3
    @mmartens3 3 года назад +22

    I am a woman who grew up in Christian culture during the purity movement. I never thought those things. Honestly, In my mind men and women were equal with the virginity issue. Also I was never taught that it was my responsibility to keep the boys pure. In my mind , how I dressed was an outward expression of my own morals and my commitment to my own purity. My purity was about my relationship with God not my relationship with boys. Also I was taught to dress modestly to protect myself from the men who have bad motivations. It’s so weird for me to hear this stuff about the purity culture because I didn’t experience it like that.

    • @jesusislord1379
      @jesusislord1379 2 года назад +2

      I like that perspective a lot

    • @r.walker7986
      @r.walker7986 8 месяцев назад

      You simply didnt experience purity culture, most of it is just misogyny and built around the male ego and fragility..

  • @josephandino3049
    @josephandino3049 3 года назад +60

    This man deserve a show and millions of likes.

    • @si_a_to2086
      @si_a_to2086 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/3VW9mgZc0og/видео.html

  • @Ruth-zu1xl
    @Ruth-zu1xl 3 года назад +30

    First time someone acknowledged that purity is for men and for women alike in my life was when I entered the Catholic Church. We were talking about clothes very casually when this young guy went “yeah of course guys need to keep this in mind too, like just because you’re a guy doesn’t mean you can show up to church wearing speedos”. I have been laughing about that mental image ever since. Here they say that both genders should have their shoulders and knees covered, that’s considered appropriate wear. I think that’s fair! And I love that they acknowledge how men can tempt women too. I used to feel so sinful when no one in my Protestant church ever mentioned how women can feel those feelings too. Not even when I prompted that discussion, they’d want to handle it
    Also the thing with “having your purity taken from you”. One of the biggest reasons I left my Protestant church is because they never talked about that. In the Catholic Church they have to keep an open discussion about it now thanks to those huge scandals a few years ago. Honestly I was scared of the clergy at first because I thought they were all like those villains, but then I met our cardinal and I decided to be straightforward when he was already talking about purity, and ask “what about the purity of those kids? And people like them?”. What followed was the best moment of my life. He spoke so kindly and warmly about how great the suffering of victims is and how we must never blame them for what happened, rather to come together and try to help them in their recovery. He said that that is one of the most intimate thefts and deepest pains one can experience, and it’s one of the things that affect your relationship with God the most (esp in the case with those kids, having a parental figure or someone who represents Jesus himself doing that to you).
    I had similar experiences to those kids in the scandals and I always felt ashamed, but when I heard that Catholic priest, in such a high position (first cardinal ever of my region - I thought he’d be less down to earth), speak of it and say exactly what I’d needed to hear, I knew that I had found the place where I would heal.
    3 years now and I thank God every day that He led me here.
    Also sorry for the poor grammar I am not native :))

    • @RG-vn9kg
      @RG-vn9kg 3 года назад +1

      Salvation is by grave alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.
      For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.
      But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man unto whom the Lord imputeth righteousness without works
      Not according to works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Ghost.
      To be saved, you must
      1. Admit you are a sinner (Romans 3:10,23)
      2. Realize you deserve God's wrath because of your sin (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9, Romans 6:23)
      3. Believe Jesus died, was buried, and rose again from the dead to accomplish the salvation of sinners (1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 4:25, Romans 5:8)
      4. Repent of sin (change your mind about sin, salvation, and the savior) (Acts 17:30, Mark 1:15)
      5. Trust Jesus alone to save you from your sins (John 1:12, John 3:14-21, John 3:36, Ephesians 1:12-20, Romans 10:9-13, Matthew 1:24)

    • @ClockworkAnomaly
      @ClockworkAnomaly 3 года назад +3

      Glad to hear it! I am so happy for you ^^

    • @ClockworkAnomaly
      @ClockworkAnomaly 3 года назад +3

      @@RG-vn9kg I believe you are replying in an attempt to draw this woman away from catholicism. I may be wrong, and I love you. However I also believe of that is the case that you are misguided and have been taught falsely about what the Catholic church teaches on the matters about which you expressed. I would also lile to add that Martin Luther falsely added the word "alone" into his bible translation and this is the cause for this entire scandal and difference. The Bible never said that. Besides that, let me explain briefly- we believe that if you have true faith, your works will follow. Faith without works is dead- because what person can sin boldly every day and then claim he is of the Father? By Grace he trusts? He does not love the Father and the Father does not know him. God has infinite grace and this is a tender topic- but if you love God, you will do good. You will do bad as well and regret it. You will ask forgiveness. If you do bad knowlingly and without remorse, and claim to have Gods protection by grace- you are like a parasite of a friend. Do you expect Him to treat a parasite well? It is chaff. This is the reason for our teaching. You must not lose sight of the span of history- in the past there were many who claimed they could do anything they wanted and be justified. Killing, murder, rape, and simply by trust in Heaven they would be saved. No. You must. You MUST. Have repentance. Even if it is in your final breath it may be enough- but you should not trust yourself to a breath- rather you should entrust your whole life to Gods work on Earth.

    • @RG-vn9kg
      @RG-vn9kg 3 года назад +1

      @@ClockworkAnomaly Of course, saving faith is followed by good works (Ephesians 2:10, James 2:14-26, Romans 6, I can go on). The Church teaches that faith is not sufficient to save, that one needs both faith and works to be saved. Scripture is clear that to be saved, one must stop trusting in their righteousness and trust Jesus alone. (Romans 10:1-13, Romans 4:1-10, Ephesians 1:11-14, 1 Thessalonians 1:9). To share my personal testimony, I grew up Catholic, went to mass every Sunday, and still lived in sin (drank alcohol, watched sinful movies, cussed, you name it), but God saved me from sin at an old fashioned Baptist Church, and ever since I confessed and forsook those sins, and praise Jesus, I was forever changed. Catholicism didn't cleanse me of my sin, only Jesus blood could and did do that (1 John 1:7).
      I have a High Priest in Jesus to whom I can confess all my sin, and he intercedes for me (Hebrews 7:20-25). He advocates for me before God the Father (1 John 1:7-2:2). I do not need an earthly priest as my go-between, I can go before God's Holy Throne directly (Hebrews 4:14-16, Hebrews 10:17-22).
      In him I found all righteousness, redemption, godly desire to turn to him, holy hatred of sin, and joy.
      In Catholicism, I never understood what Calvary meant. Why Jesus died, what that means for us today. All I knew was "confess to a priest", "say 10 Hail mary's", "memorize these words" I did not know Jesus.
      Now, I found him, and that's all that matters. I hope you understand what I have tried to say. I don't think we're too different, but it must be said that only Jesus can save. I cannot earn my way to heaven, but I have received a free gift, and want to live in a way that pleases Jesus because I love him since he loved me (John 3:16-21, 1 John 4:7-10, 19, Galatians 2:19-21)
      I do love you too man, and will be praying for you, as I trust you will also do for me. I hope you see my heart in this, I don't hate you, but I love you enough to tell you what's what.

    • @ClockworkAnomaly
      @ClockworkAnomaly 3 года назад +1

      @Trinity Survival Systems the time of the lord is coming yes, and I hope you find love in your heart soon. All this hatred.... you are teaching false things. If you would like to learn the truth of the things you have said, I would love to converse with you. I will pray for you, that you may no longer be under the spirit of division and hate.

  • @Bunnyinthebasement
    @Bunnyinthebasement Год назад +3

    Regarding the myth that you’ve “failed” because you lost your virginity before marriage, I would point to Rahab, the harlot who helped the Hebrew spies escape Jericho.
    She became the mother of Boaz, the upright man who married Ruth. As such, Rahab was the great-great grandmother of King David and an ancestor of Jesus.
    Rahab’s virginity was long gone by the time she met Boaz’s father, Salmon, but even so, she raised a kind, generous son who later loved Ruth, a foreign widow in need, and Rahab was chosen to be in the genealogy of Jesus.
    If you lost your virginity before marriage - either through force or bad decisions - God can still transform your life and give you a wonderful spouse and family.

  • @kamerondoherty6181
    @kamerondoherty6181 3 года назад +25

    To be honest I never heard of purity culture but I think you handled the sexual purity topic well and just keep letting God use you in mighty ways

    • @user-vl7fm8ck2m
      @user-vl7fm8ck2m 3 года назад +5

      I never heard of purity culture until I downloaded tiktok, but I deleted it months ago. 😅

  • @bonniesookermany465
    @bonniesookermany465 3 года назад +34

    So much redemptive truth. Growing up Mennonite it w as much more extreme even than the purity culture. Sadly it takes too many years to unlearn some things and there are so many unhealthy ideas about what a relationship should look like.

  • @itsmeterri
    @itsmeterri 3 года назад +23

    Yes 👏👏👏 Amen Amen 🙏 I have had this exact conversation with my sister's. Very well said. 💕

  • @doni1460
    @doni1460 2 года назад +8

    "It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble." Rom 14:21
    The bible in almost every case teaches us to be mindful of others. In everything we do, we should be careful not to be the reason others stumble.

  • @Musicalowl12
    @Musicalowl12 3 года назад +11

    This was perfectly explained! I’ve been waiting for someone to tackle purity culture without throwing out purity entirely.

  • @allmightynerd6041
    @allmightynerd6041 3 года назад +10

    Purity culture is what helped these churches get away with abuse 💔

    • @LaB567
      @LaB567 Год назад

      They’ll be held accountable

  • @aleighgrimes3624
    @aleighgrimes3624 3 года назад +28

    This is great! I hope girl defined and Paul and Morgan see this video as well!

    • @si_a_to2086
      @si_a_to2086 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/3VW9mgZc0og/видео.html

    • @marjorie5677
      @marjorie5677 3 года назад +5

      I like girl defined I agree with some and disagree with some of their videos

    • @si_a_to2086
      @si_a_to2086 3 года назад +1

      @@marjorie5677 I like them too, I have learned so many good things from them.

    • @marjorie5677
      @marjorie5677 3 года назад +6

      @@si_a_to2086 yeah but I disagree with some things of them they literally blame girls for being abused or sexually assaulted

    • @elmoworld850
      @elmoworld850 3 года назад

      @@marjorie5677 really? What video was that?

  • @faonisahuman7033
    @faonisahuman7033 3 года назад +13

    Thanks for making this video. As a man, I definitely need my perception of women to be repaired and take responsibility for that. It encouraged me in my own journey for healthy and biblical sexuality

  • @emmat7910
    @emmat7910 3 года назад +12

    How sad it is that God always wants us with Him, but we put people aside? Jesus accepts everyone who apologizes and repents. Why do we put people in the corner instead of helping them seeing the truth? That Jesus's love and light is endless He came for us to be forgiven ♥️🙏✝️🕊️

  • @slindilevidima4101
    @slindilevidima4101 3 года назад +9

    I know that I'm out of topic but this guys hair is flawless

  • @memastarful
    @memastarful 3 года назад +28

    I think us women have a responsibility to be aware of how to be responsible with our outer appearance and its affects influences

    • @chemforumlachimie6754
      @chemforumlachimie6754 3 года назад +4

      Thanks for saying the truth

    • @20yrs_oldBlackGuy
      @20yrs_oldBlackGuy 2 года назад +12

      Yes true but also rapists needs to learn to keep their zipper up too.

    • @hoopmania9912
      @hoopmania9912 2 года назад +6

      @@20yrs_oldBlackGuy both can be true at the same time. Each sex will be accountable for their own actions.

    • @20yrs_oldBlackGuy
      @20yrs_oldBlackGuy 2 года назад

      @@hoopmania9912 NO I change my mind, only the r victims should be held accountable you can't accuse men intoxicated or sober of rapc . They should get a slap on the wrist and b Scott free. Like what a great justice system does. Women got to understand men are either completely sober or intoxicated we as men can't control our secual urges either way. It doesn't matter what the women is wearing she can be a whole prude who's not showing skin it doesn't matter backed up by studies.

    • @20yrs_oldBlackGuy
      @20yrs_oldBlackGuy 2 года назад

      @@hoopmania9912 dude I'm trolling.

  • @mramirez5239
    @mramirez5239 3 года назад +5

    "I'm not concerned with being balanced, I'm concerned with being Biblical." 🔥🔥🔥 That's it!

  • @KiRetteCouture
    @KiRetteCouture 2 года назад +10

    Even the Bible acknowledged people's good looks. David, Sarah, Abigail etc. It's ok to find people attractive. Just connect it to them being in God's image. That will encourage respect.

  • @rachelpeters7046
    @rachelpeters7046 3 года назад +31

    Hey dude! Love your videos so much. Thank you so much for posting this; as a woman, I was raised in a very strict purity culture setting and feel that maybe if I was taught differently about how God loves us and sees sexuality and that my virginity doesn't determine my entire worth, then maybe I would have had a better understanding of how sexuality works, since I didn't end up waiting and fell into years of sexual immorality before God delivered me. Ultimately I am 100% responsible for my own sin so don't get it twisted, but I wish I could have seen my worth through God's lens and understood why He wanted us to be clothed in dignity and to be modest, while holding an equal standpoint among the sexes instead of a blatantly misogynistic one that leaves most of the responsibility and blame on the woman, but also teaches guys that they are nothing but a hormonal s*x machine and keeps them from talking to us girls.
    Editing tip: would you mind upping the volume for your videos? Your audio is a little quiet and I can't really hear you well even with my laptop speaker all the way up :)

  • @Danaelisefilms
    @Danaelisefilms 2 года назад +5

    I grew up w those messages. I didn’t kiss a man until I was nearly 25. 3 years into marriage, I went to a church that had the purity sex talk and cried in the parking lot bc we did some foreplay outside of marriage. I had been married to the only man I ever kissed. Then after 5 years of marriage, my husband I had waited for, left….despite my desperate attempts to keep us together. “Divorced”is such a harsh label and I have this fear that God won’t bless me if I were to remarry. I truly believed marriage was forever and that my partner believed the same.
    Another lie, is that if you mess up sexually, you can ruin or cancel the relationship w the person “God has for you.” Another lie is “God has one person just for you.” There is a lot of resentment toward purity culture lies. Its just so hard to reprogram yourself from that.

    • @katherinemoore3059
      @katherinemoore3059 Год назад

      I was married to my ex husband for 3 years. He never told me about his porn addiction when we were dating. Before we got married we did fool around a bit but I was still attractive to him even after marriage. After I found out about his addiction as a woman it just about destroyed me. Needless to say he chose porn over our marriage. If a man or woman has a spirit of lust or any other demonic spirit, it can jump from person to person. I started feeling really low about myself for a few years! At the age of 30 almost 31. I was 29 when the divorce was finalized. I was hurt but felt free. What people don't also talk about is what they are struggling with! It would save a man/woman from a lot of pain.

  • @roboking1020
    @roboking1020 3 года назад +6

    This video helped me out a lot. Honestly, the most direct interaction I've had with purity teaching was in one of my youth church services where they showed us a video about something called a purity ring. But even then, my church never pressed us with a lot of the lies talked about in this video. Still, I feel like for me, as a I grew older, these lies crept into my life through very indirect and subtle ways. Now that I'm watching this video, I'm starting to realize flaws in my thought life about this subject. Truly, this was something on my heart for the past week or so, and now I finally bump into this and it puts everything into prespective. Thanks for sharing brother. Keep up the good work.

  • @t_zlayen3386
    @t_zlayen3386 3 года назад +6

    VERSE OF THE DAY
    August 13
    Isaiah 33:2
    2 LORD, be gracious to us; we long for you. Be our strength every morning, our salvation in time of distress.

  • @emmat7910
    @emmat7910 3 года назад +9

    Watching this as an ex atheist and a half scottish/half greek orthodox ❤️

    • @mariaflaviaelesterioarella6827
      @mariaflaviaelesterioarella6827 3 года назад +2

      How did you became a Christian, Miss Emma? I just wanted to know...I love hearing other people's Testimony.
      (*´ω`*)

    • @amac6404
      @amac6404 2 года назад

      @@mariaflaviaelesterioarella6827 I know you didn't ask me but my name is Adam and I'm from Ireland. I was raised Christian and went to a Christian primary school. My dad works for our parish priest but when I was around 12/13 I started drifting away from Christianity and I started becoming interested in culture and I wanted to know more about celtic cultures, I called myself an atheist but I felt still connected to God so whenever I discovered celtic paganism it interested me but I was scared of it because I was thinking about whether hell and heaven were real and it worried me. Someone replied to my comment on tiktok and told me about so called "Christo- paganism" two words that should never go together. I got into it and ended up calling myself pagan. I started celebrating pagan festivals and it was so corrupting. One time my dog was really sick and I noticed that paganism is so faithless, I felt like I had no one to trust, I felt like the world didn't want to listen to me, but then I remembered the promises of God and that we can trust God. So I prayed to God and my prayer was answered but as my dog got better, I tried to move on. Situations where I realised I can trust God kept coming along and one time I realised this, I keep coming back to God whenever I feel I need Him. So this time I agreed with the fact I need to stay with Him. So I started my journey of Christianity and faith and now that I'm 15, somehow most of my classmates know I'm a believer in Christ 😁.
      I'd love to hear yours if you wouldn't mind telling me :D

  • @Aurora-rs9lj
    @Aurora-rs9lj 3 года назад +6

    I appreciate your very respectful, well thought out explanations. Thank you for making this!

  • @valorandstrength2829
    @valorandstrength2829 3 года назад +8

    Thank you so much for addressing this!

    • @si_a_to2086
      @si_a_to2086 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Hwp9J0xdfZM/видео.html

  • @isaiahomarihill8736
    @isaiahomarihill8736 3 года назад +2

    Yo when he said, that all that sexual baggage is left at the cross. And all things are made new. That hit hard.

  • @sarlandobriseno3894
    @sarlandobriseno3894 3 года назад +11

    Yeah I was ra|>ed when I was very very very very young also s3xually harassed. However, I only think of me having been with one man and that makes me feel good because I only chose to be with one man who I’m married to. I do think men need to learn how to control their attractions to women. I also think women need to dress appropriately. What’s appropriate? Well, you don’t show off your private areas and go without a bra. If the way you’re dressing looks like you’re purposely trying to have men lust after you then yeah it’s inappropriate. I am glad that you’re letting everyone know that it’s not just women who should be doing the right thing. I mean women practice from a young age to be appropriate, to learn how to deal with our hormones and our unstable emotions. Boys should be taught the same thing at a young age too not just women.

    • @Blazedasonic
      @Blazedasonic 2 года назад

      I love this. Responsibility on both parties. Both are equally important.

    • @20yrs_oldBlackGuy
      @20yrs_oldBlackGuy 2 года назад +1

      People be shaming men's dick size too!!!!

    • @celiasleigh2805
      @celiasleigh2805 2 года назад

      I don't think there's anything wrong with not wearing a bra unless possibly youre doing a lot of sports. Bras didn't even exist until fairly recently.

  • @ErickaJ954
    @ErickaJ954 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for speaking on this sir! I love you even more for this lol. God bless you!

  • @tessie4698
    @tessie4698 3 года назад +3

    I praise the Lord for the sober minded talk on this subject ♡ and I really pray the church will start having these conversations!!!

  • @jenniferlisow2901
    @jenniferlisow2901 3 года назад +4

    Thank you for taking the time to debunk some of these myths. It should be encouraged to have open & honest conversations regarding purity among both men & women as followers of Christ. I believe churches should take your lead on this issue and continue to explore it further.

  • @jeffenriquez9929
    @jeffenriquez9929 Год назад +1

    Your channel is so refreshing. Most Pastors talk more about their stories than they do the scriptures. It’s really nice to see someone focus on the scriptures especially on real issues.

  • @JosiahVaughan
    @JosiahVaughan 3 месяца назад

    "I'm not concerned with being balanced, I'm concerned with being biblical" What a profound statement, I wish all debates made this the centerpiece of the discussion.

  • @bereketyonas6939
    @bereketyonas6939 3 года назад +22

    Jesus loves you and thank you so much.

  • @wildm1104
    @wildm1104 3 года назад +3

    The most clever speech about clothes in church 👏🏼 “What God wants you to wear?; Focus on God, not on your clothes “

    • @chemforumlachimie6754
      @chemforumlachimie6754 3 года назад

      This is not the TRUTH
      Paul said that if eating meat would cause others to sin, he would not eat meat while the world stands! He did not ignore the issue of others while focusing on God. I'm sorry but this teaching has a kind of appeal but it is not exactly what scripture teaches. Scripture places women responsible for dressing in such a manner as to limit the tendency of lusting in men. Paul did not say that those who fell into sin of going against their conscinces to eat meat were personally responsible, and so, for him, their sin wouldn't be his responsibility

    • @wildm1104
      @wildm1104 3 года назад

      @@chemforumlachimie6754 In this speech people focused more on clothes , and some churches are really saying : “ appearance saves”

  • @MH-uh3hw
    @MH-uh3hw 3 года назад +4

    Where I disagree is that women and men should consider causing their brothers and sisters to stumble at what they wear.

    • @Angismit
      @Angismit 3 года назад +2

      No one can cause you to sin in that way. You are pulled away by YOUR OWN LUSTS. James 1:14

    • @MH-uh3hw
      @MH-uh3hw 3 года назад +1

      @@Angismit you can be both be pulled away by your own lust and another can cause you to stumble as well. 1 Timothy 2 calls women to be modest as well as Titus and 1 Peter. The Greek word used is shamefastedness and means that women would be ashamed to wear anything that could cause another brother to stumble. Women are to not to dress provocatively and of-course men should not lust regardless. But please stop this nonsense that sisters should consider their brothers in Christ when they dress and men should consider their sisters as well.

    • @IWonder474
      @IWonder474 2 года назад

      Jesus said if your eye causes you to sin rip it out. He defended us in this matter.

  • @ElizaPancito
    @ElizaPancito 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for making this video. I believe it is time to considerate our preconceptions about purity, and seek the TRUTH according to the scriptures.

    • @chemforumlachimie6754
      @chemforumlachimie6754 3 года назад

      This is not the TRUTH
      Paul said that if eating meat would cause others to sin, he would not eat meat while the world stands! He did not ignore the issue of others while focusing on God. I'm sorry but this teaching has a kind of appeal but it is not exactly what scripture teaches. Scripture places women responsible for dressing in such a manner as to limit the tendency of lusting in men. Paul did not say that those who fell into sin of going against their conscinces to eat meat were personally responsible, and so, for him, their sin wouldn't be his responsibility

  • @wushupants
    @wushupants 3 года назад +12

    *"If you're not for sale, don't advertise"*
    These issues are both sexes' fault. Men should exercise self-control and ask God to transform their hearts as you said, but girls should also not seek to attract, especially if she's waiting for THE man that God has for her and made her for.
    You have to realize that girls caused *ANGELS* to fall... so they should certainly be more aware of how attractive they can be and approach it with wisdom. Putting away our earthly desires (to show off our beauty or enhance our looks) while we're on earth for a few decades is _nothing_ compared to showcasing God's beauty in Heaven with no restrictions and it won't be sinful.
    "We're better off living hell on earth (suffering, ridicule, etc.) and going to Heaven than living heaven on earth and going to hell"

    • @Blazedasonic
      @Blazedasonic 2 года назад +3

      I can get behind this as a woman. Both are responsible.

    • @CreationForeverMinistries
      @CreationForeverMinistries 2 года назад +6

      Both men and women should exercise self-control and both men and women should not seek to attract.

  • @Shadow-hu8dy
    @Shadow-hu8dy 3 года назад +4

    I think that purity is more important than Virginity while they both have alot of the same things purity is more than just virginity it is a heart issue cause some people made mistakes with their virginity and I believe that if they have God he can give them back their purity which is more like a promise

  • @sleppynoggin8808
    @sleppynoggin8808 2 года назад +3

    When i first came back to Christ my biggest shame was that i wasnt a virgin, now i kind of forget that i am not a virgin it doesnt matter to me now Christ has made me new :)

  • @Nikitaxo24
    @Nikitaxo24 2 года назад +1

    Sadly I grew up in a non Christian home and had difficulties with sex and relationships. Baptisted at 23 seventh day adventist church. I moved away from Christianity due to idol of relationships with men. I have been walking with the lord 1 year now. I praise God. I never knew my self worth before thinking it was tied to relationships, romantic dating relationships. Great topic to discuss.

  • @tanya5362
    @tanya5362 2 года назад +1

    "I'm not concerned with being balanced, I'm concerned with being biblical" , Yesss!!

  • @Johnson.O.Odiase
    @Johnson.O.Odiase 2 года назад +2

    So much wisdom in one video!! If only I watched this earlier. GOD BLESS YOU SIR

  • @kvsartist8245
    @kvsartist8245 2 года назад +8

    I can personally attest to the "torture chamber" feeling. I've really spent so much time trying to avoid even looking at women, thinking I would be on my way to sinning, not realizing that the bigger call is to actually work on how I see women and how I relate to them. I really pray for all the young men and women out there who have become prisoners of these lies. I pray The Lord can deliver them from these things and show them the design He would like their sexuality to follow. I pray god redeems us from this fallen way of thinking, because it really leads to deterioration of the Image God has given us.

  • @ZeeroDubs
    @ZeeroDubs 3 года назад +6

    Blaming "Purity Culture" for whatever sin you fall into is just as bad as men blaming women for their own lust issues... which, incidentally, I have never heard someone actually do. 🤔

    • @valariousv7697
      @valariousv7697 3 года назад +3

      being an inclination to sin is a grave sin. you can deny it, but seduction is a thing. this is just one more reason to avoid the protestant heretics; they don't know spiritual things.

  • @filiphovland2462
    @filiphovland2462 2 года назад +1

    My father was raised in a biblical culture really similar to an extreme version of purity culture. His shame was so heavy that I fear he will never return to God. But I pray that my heart will be with him, so that he ends up where our Father in heaven has planned for him

  • @noelharris5294
    @noelharris5294 3 года назад +3

    Saying that virginity is your most valuable gift is like saying the most valuable thing about you is your sexuality. Another thing is that traditionally in the church your virginity was more than physical. If your only experience with sex is assault then according to the traditions of the Church you are still a virgin since it was without your consent. Your mind and heart weren't in the experience, only your body. Think of all of the female martyrs who were r*ped during the tortures they endured before dying for Jesus but the Church still calls them virgin saints.

  • @mystdragon8530
    @mystdragon8530 3 года назад +2

    He actually didn’t address the virginity aspect at all. He deflected the actual conversation away from it. So this is a very important question especially in a culture that tries to promote sex like it’s a recreational activity. What is the significance of each persons virginity? How important is it? And yes you should address the effect of if it is forcefully taken or even by promiscuity.

  • @nocx4592
    @nocx4592 3 года назад +11

    I get that this video is about being against the overly legalistic side, and I do appreciate it, but I think some specific counter points need to be made lest some people take everything as an excuse to shirk their own responsibilities. Maybe just not in the video itself. Just remember as you read this comment that this is meant to be complimentary, not a rebuttal.
    I don't think David is saying that we should count virginity as basically just repentance since the last time you committed sexual immorality instead of never, because the Bible does talk about virginity as a lifelong thing. But rather he's saying that we should be less concerned about whether or not we still have our virginity, and more concerned with that God will forgive us if we repent and trying to live holy now. Also we think of virginity as only about girls, when the Bible doesn't limit sexual purity to one half of the population(I think we may get this impression because the Bible specifically talks to men about their daughters on this issue).
    Yes, it does say that HE(the man that looketh with lust upon a woman) commits adultery in HIS heart, but it also says "with HER". The verse is rebuking both people. (yes, this still applies with the genders reversed)
    Yes, there's a difference between attraction and lust. I once heard it put like this: "It's okay to dress to be attractive, it's not okay to dress to attract(to yourself)"
    I was expecting this comment to be longer, but David did a pretty good job of not leaving ditches open.

  • @debiedongijena6977
    @debiedongijena6977 3 года назад +4

    Thank you so much for addressing this.ao helpful...and I also think that its better for children living with or still under their parents or guardians have to obey their parents even in purity culture because trying to reason with them in this topic will just lead to an endless battle...( I've learnt this from personal experience) then when they are now independent they can choose their own path cox obedience to parents is obedience to God and is very important too..

    • @si_a_to2086
      @si_a_to2086 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Hwp9J0xdfZM/видео.html

  • @taylorcamille5493
    @taylorcamille5493 3 года назад +3

    I heard someone say once that how you dress is your own personal commercial and I think that's a great way to look at it. A lot of times, women don't know what they are communicating to men by how they dress so when they dress provocatively and say that they're dressing for themselves, (exercising their right to dress how they want), it's gonna attract guys who dont want the best for you.. the same as getting cut in the ocean. You're gonna attract sharks. Not to say that all men are sharks because they're not but that's who's attention you're attracting. I think there is a safety component involved and it's important to not highlight yourself in that way, to those who are determined to only see you for your body.

    • @ccrow3355
      @ccrow3355 3 года назад +2

      That would be called taking personal responsibility. People want to play victim when they do things that help make themselves a victim. Its like if I told you I could sell you a car with air bags or a car with no air bags. You buy the one with no air bags then complain when the other person rear ends you and you smash your face on the steering wheel. Ya it was the other persons fault but you could have prevented your face getting smashed into the steering wheel through your own choices.

    • @taylorcamille5493
      @taylorcamille5493 3 года назад +1

      @@ccrow3355 I like that analogy.

    • @jasonlee1727
      @jasonlee1727 2 года назад

      Women know exactly what they are communicating. They don't always want to admit it, but they know.

    • @taylorcamille5493
      @taylorcamille5493 2 года назад

      @@jasonlee1727 Not always. Especially not when they're young. Women and men think differently so women usually are more aware of how they come off to other women but they usually only know a shadow of how men think of them. For example, a woman might get dressed and think that she looks hot and a man might think she looks like she's desperate for attention. But the woman won't ever see it that way, or know that anyone is thinking that.

  • @beccag6467
    @beccag6467 3 года назад +2

    Great video man! You brought clarity to my confusion around this topic.

  • @josephusansah2065
    @josephusansah2065 3 года назад +3

    Man, this video is very helpful. Thanks a lot man🙌

  • @papierflieger9110
    @papierflieger9110 Год назад +2

    Trigger warning: mental illness, OCD
    Because of this culture I kept my distance to men until my mid/late twenties, since I didn’t want to sin.😬
    And it got me OCD. For example I wasn’t allowed to have hair longer than shoulder lengths to not seduce men with my long hair🤪
    I’m 27 today and I’ve overcome most of the lies that my mental illness has told me for such a long time.😊 with the help of God, therapy and medicine💪❤

    • @KimberlyLovesJesus-
      @KimberlyLovesJesus- 11 месяцев назад +1

      So happy for you. It’s actually called religious ocd. I watch Mark Dejesus and a ton of believers have a distorted view of God and don’t even realize it, which causes harm

  • @justinkase1360
    @justinkase1360 2 года назад +2

    First of all, rape is simply not relevant when discussing virginity. A woman who was raped is just as innocent as a woman who is a virgin. This is about morality, NOT some physical state of being a virgin. That said, women who are not virgins by choice ARE less valuable to men that value sexual morality....like Christian men, but not only them. However, we live in a very fallen world and it's just not common to marry a virgin anymore. Even girls who are raised Christian are VERY unlikely to be a virgin when they marry or even meet a future husband. Yes, this should sadden us. Yes, this is a big deal. It should not be minimized nor exaggerated. It's not the end of the world. Anyway, the same also applies to guys, there is no separate standard.
    Another slight issue I have is that IT IS women who largely have to reject male sexual attention....it's not sexist to point this out and that doesn't mean that we don't think guys should learn to be better. We happen to share the world with secular people so it's not only Christian men women have to be concerned with. Also, it's just acknowledging the differences between men and women that lead to the common-sense view that it's men who chase and women that reject. This is just a fact, it's how we are made and it's intentional.
    I appreciate what you are trying to do and agree for the most part, but I just thought these things were relevant.

  • @jasminegold6890
    @jasminegold6890 Год назад

    You have no idea how much this has helped me. Other Christians RUclipsrs who talk about modesty tend to be very confused lol. I love this, thank you

  • @dmmusicstudios7413
    @dmmusicstudios7413 Год назад

    Just found your stuff man. I was skeptical at the title of the video because I believe people react against “purity culture” in a way that isn’t very genuine. However, this was such a well thought and articulated video. Beautiful message.

  • @theologytherapist
    @theologytherapist Год назад

    I think you're right that for being a place that talks so much about grace, redemption, forgiveness and joy, there's a lot of harm being done when someone doesn't meet the cultural standards. And I really appreciate the fact that you're saying how it isn't a girl's fault if someone is experiencing lust for her!! That's a big one...

  • @precious_muse
    @precious_muse 3 месяца назад

    So this is one I’m a little confused about. When I was in high school, my mother once came to Bible class with these delicious-looking brownies, fluffy and with what looked like powdered sugar on top. She passed them out to us, but when we bit into them, they were so gross, like biting into flour. Then she passed out some other brownies that didn’t look as appealing but tasted delicious. She used this teach us that sex is meant for marriage, and sex outside of marriage may look appealing but it’s like brownies without sugar. The lesson I took from that is if one married, sex is really, really good.
    Now, I’m in my forties and still single, and I told my mother that I feel lonely because of all the things I can’t have. Her response is that the truth is sex isn’t good for a woman. It’s great for the guy, but it leaves the woman feeling used. This seems to completely contradict what she taught me in that Bible lesson; it’s like she’s saying now that brownies taste like mud regardless of marital status. Is it because of how taboo we’ve made sex? Is it because on the honeymoon neither one of us know what we’re doing? Sex is a gift from God, and how can a gift from God be bad to either party?

  • @voidedspace5510
    @voidedspace5510 2 года назад +2

    Nofap and no phyiscal contact whatsoever. Molested at 10 y/o, finally got to experience my first normal relationship because of Christ Jesus. I do pray for a wife. I ask for your prayers concerning this.

  • @katiabirdibarra3946
    @katiabirdibarra3946 Год назад

    Wow, amen!
    This is sooo true. Even today (sadly) 2yrs after this video, sexual purity is still preached at church!
    And honestly it can be soooo frustrating as a young christian to be under unnecessary pressure!
    Thanks for this biblical worldview !

  • @Diamond-pg4kc
    @Diamond-pg4kc 3 года назад +1

    I love how in nearly every video that's longer than a minute long, you manage to put the gospel somewhere in it.

  • @valeria.8983
    @valeria.8983 2 года назад

    i was thinking about this the other day. i was super confused on what to think about these lies but this video helped me so much so thank you!!

  • @bctalicorn809
    @bctalicorn809 Год назад +1

    I was told that lust happens at the second look or when you prolong your gaze, and I stand by that. Because it gives you an idea of where your heart lies. When you involuntarily check someone out at first (because depending on how they dress, it can create immediate interest), immediately look away and don't go for that second look. That's keeping your eyes clean. It takes discipline, but it's definitely doable.
    All that said, it is SOOOOOO much easier to not have lust when they aren't showing off "the goods" by wearing skin-tight clothes and low-cut tops/not wearing one. Especially if you are talking to someone and their neckline is so low its almost a belly line, it is indescribably difficult to resist when it's in your peripheral vision.And this goes for guys as well as girls.
    The Bible says not to be a stumbling block for your brother, and seeing as how lust is a very difficult thing to fight against, I think Jesus would want us to cover up and wear better fitting clothes more than we realize. Although it is very possible to see people as more than objects, in fact it comes second nature to true born again Christians, dressing more like the world doesn't do your brother or sister any favors, especially since the media we are surrounded with is so hyper-sexualized in today's culture and it keeps our minds on lustful desires.
    That's my take. Modesty is a two-way street between you and God, and lust is a two-way street for the looker and the person being looked at. I'm NOT excusing people who act on lust, they are 100% responsible for their actions, but for me, trying my hardest to keep my eyes clean and respectful, it just gets so exhausting. I spend most of my time staring at the ground when I'm not around modest people lol

  • @linasilva7365
    @linasilva7365 3 года назад +1

    My local church teaches that women should only wear skirts, show off shoulders, wear something above the knees… etc, I only wear skirts when I’m at church but when I’m out I wear my pants bc I don’t feel comfortable with skirts, my pants are more modest than certain skirts I see there.🙁

    • @585Courtney
      @585Courtney 3 года назад +2

      I agree I feel pants (jeans, ect) are more modest .

  • @jedihoff
    @jedihoff 3 года назад +4

    I wish I heard this 20 years ago

    • @MrsDazl
      @MrsDazl 3 года назад

      👏🏾👏🏾

  • @NaMiYummy
    @NaMiYummy 2 года назад +1

    I once heard the older men at church telling young men to becareful of women because they tempt men. So they began to Point out the younger women some not even out of high school as a list of who to be aware of being tempted by.. at the same time the women have no idea these things are being said about them. In my opinion the men already decided in their hearts who is attractive and who is not. It was incredibly insulting pointing women out saying things like becareful never to be left alone with them because she would definitely get you to have sex with her. The older men already set the standard of what is lustful and sinful.. so just being in the same room as a women who they find attractive is sinful.. Some of the women were serving at church and they have to be in the same room or vicinity as these men. So what about the older women do they not count? The women in their 30's, 40's and 50's. God made Women to be attractive there is a difference between an attractive women who men lust for that's not her fault and a women who is trying to attract men to sin. Women should not be seen only by men in the church as sin period.

  • @ZeeroDubs
    @ZeeroDubs 3 года назад +3

    Purity gets a bad rap and I don't understand it at all. I came from what people call "purity culture" and I NEVER blamed women for my own shortcomings. I did, however, save myself for marriage. As did my wife.

  • @leviwilliams9601
    @leviwilliams9601 3 года назад +10

    No one is sexually pure, before of a holy God. We are all guilty of sin. We are called to follow God, because we love him and his law. God changed us, so we could follow him and be apart of his kingdom. Period. God be praised. ( Edit... As humans you will lust, you live in an imperfect body... Lean on you savior.)

    • @EclypseXx
      @EclypseXx 3 года назад

      Thank you! Amen!

  • @fvardona
    @fvardona 3 года назад +3

    Another thing that boggles my mind is the doctrine that sex for pleasure inside a marriage is an immoral sin alongside contraceptives. The ridiculousness of this statement lies that nowhere in the bible do we have a verse saying so, and worst for this doctrine is that in 1 Corinthians 7 we actually have Paul saying this:
    1Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

    • @ccrow3355
      @ccrow3355 3 года назад +1

      the way i understand it is we can do whatever we want in the bed room with our spouse as long as it glorifies God. So that would remove anything that causes humiliation, hurts someone, is non concentual, brings in outsiders, things like that. I dont see how contraceptives would be a bad thing. It prevents unwanted pregnancy which leads to bad things like abortions (there are christians that get abortions) and not taking care of children and things like that. So I dont see how having sex for pleasure responsibly and with the Glory of God in mind as a bad thing.

    • @20yrs_oldBlackGuy
      @20yrs_oldBlackGuy 2 года назад

      @@ccrow3355 Intimacy for pleasure is ok

  • @corneliasander4302
    @corneliasander4302 Год назад

    I like what you said in the end. Its not about finding the balance. But its about finding whats biblical!

  • @josephlockwood2380
    @josephlockwood2380 2 года назад +1

    dude love your stuff, finally subscribed ,can you do more on mental health/intrusive thoughts.

  • @trss8674
    @trss8674 2 года назад

    In the book Meekness and Quietness (which is the second half of the Bible verse usually used to encourage women to dress modestly), it points out that in Exodus 33:4,5 the Israelites wore ornaments and only removed them because they were in rebellion at that time.

  • @tell-me-a-story-
    @tell-me-a-story- Год назад +2

    Okay, I actually think purity culture is pretty good, I think it should just apply equally to men.
    That is, we need MORE purity, not less.

  • @jpmcpinning4255
    @jpmcpinning4255 3 года назад +3

    I just love that I found your channel!! I plan to watch a few more episodes and then share you with my kids!!!
    I was raised SDA and my best friend was raised in a Christian homeschool family in the early stages of the purity movement, mid to late 90s. Anyways we have disagreed about what our daughters wear. My daughter is very curvy and with body image issues she feels more comfortable in tighter fitting clothes that show her fitness instead of baggy clothes that make her look heavy.
    My friends daughters are more childlike figures and she has them wear baggy clothes to not cause boys to stumble. Anyways I have two sons and one daughter and that message kind of bothered me. I thought my boys have to constantly reject forward young women wanting to entice them into pre marital sex and yet these you g women are looking at every young man as a threat. It couldn’t be farther from the truth in my house!!
    Anyways I just really appreciate this video and the possibility that it may give some a little different thought train to ponder over !!
    Keep up the good work!!

  • @DuckFanDane
    @DuckFanDane 26 дней назад

    I agree, saving yourself for marriage and being a virgin when you are married, does not guarantee that you will have a healthy relationship. It’s the highest probability that you will especially if you are worrying about other things in someone’s personality instead of if they are really good in bed, which is something, that tends to get in the way if you are having a girlfriend that you are sleeping with and everything. Statistics are pretty clear on the lower body count. The better chance you have of having a lasting marriage, which ultimately means they are probably the happiest and healthiest because there’s data on that too. the marriages that work out the most are both people being virgins on their wedding night, but nothing is a guarantee

  • @rebeccajones651
    @rebeccajones651 2 года назад

    Thank you Isaac. I can only praise God for the work you are doing through your channel. We really need to search the Scripture about all of this. So often we just regurgitate what purity culture has fed us rather than looking into the Bible for answers ourselves. If I am blessed to be married and have children one day I will be sure to come back to this video because I don’t want my daughter to believe the lies of either purity culture or the sexual revolution, and I want my son to learn how to respect and interact with women. I hope that people can continue to have an open dialogue about both men and women’s roles when it comes to modesty.

  • @Tylerstrodtman
    @Tylerstrodtman 2 года назад +1

    How hilarious that we would tell girls directly (or indirectly) that boys are predators and that at least eventually they will be the leaders of the church and their families. Great video, everyone is responsible for their own sin, we ought to be mindful to not tempt one another out of love for each other and Ann understanding that others struggle in ways that we don’t, and quit blaming and demonizing each other.

  • @LouisaWatt
    @LouisaWatt 3 года назад +2

    Luckily I grew up in Australia and we watched that particular train wreck from a distance, but I always thought purity culture was kinda insulting to both genders. Like, men are not hapless victims of their own libidos and women are not responsible for other people’s thoughts.

  • @luisawebster
    @luisawebster 3 года назад +1

    Wow this is so good! Thank you for this video! :)

  • @Philx.v
    @Philx.v 3 года назад +16

    What book do you recommend on this topic?

  • @DaveWaves
    @DaveWaves 2 года назад +2

    Purity culture is 90% correct. There are a few things that go too far but other than that it’s completely biblical