what makes you think GTA6 wont be 80 bucks at least? BO6 is 80 bucks. And it sold like hot cakes. Why would Rockstar look at that and go "naahh 60 bucks is fine"?
They didn't even include the U95 jammer pod? That was a major part of the upgrade because it contained both X band ECM and a very advanced RWR to enhance the built in one which is kind of bad. The reason for the Di upgrade was to make a viggen that was both deployable in a NATO context and which was a bridge to the new Gripen fighter for pilots.
@@Panocek Most player buy premium vehicles to either get to the vehicle they actually want to play, or to get to the latest meta stuff. Only a small portion will actually play more than a handful of the stuff they unlock.
Yeah, turned it down but it seems finicky. Before I was recording this it looked perfectly fine, but after a restart it looks deep fried. All the way down it looks fuzzy, anything else looks cartoonish lol
You also missed something, this guy doesn’t have data link, so if you shoot the aamram out of pit Bull range then it has to guide in with with the inertial reference unit
They have massacred its flight model. :/ My father was a Viggen pilot during the late '80s, '90s, and early '00s, so I have a special love for this aircraft. Sure, it's anecdotal, and it's been 20 years since he last flew the JA-37D, but he did say the energy bleed looks exaggerated. However, you would basically never pull fully on the stick constantly, as keyboard turning does in War Thunder.
Even worse right now since the AJS Viggen module is on sale for 29.99, so you can get either the Logi Extreme 3D Pro HOTAS or an Xbox controller and still come out with a few bucks for food/drink.
I think the biggest thing is really just BR the price yes is absurd but the plane and what it offers isn’t the worst. The BR is. How gaijin implements capabilities for certain planes and matchups is the problem. For air to have a comfortable BR range and not have compression where it’s at should be 14-15.0. But gaijin wants it players to suffer so they can buy things that make them feel capable.
Even if BR was to be increased, this viggen has to fight other Fox-3 slingers. It has to go against Flankers and F-16's. Literally every plane it faces, is better than it. In terms of FM. To spend $80 on a plane that is utterly useless when out of Fox-3 missiles, it beyond crazy. F-4E is gonna eat you alive. Missiles are avoidable, but that 20mm in the dogfight, where you lose all your speed after doing a 180°? Not at all. Maybe get it for $40 if you really want this plane.
@@cameronscheer5371 In a sustained turnfight (assume 1v1), an agile eagle phantom (F-4S for example) beats the Viggen, because gaijin ruined the Viggen flight model an update or so ago
this is the first update in my 8 years of slaving for the snail where i opened up WT, test flew the f117 night hawk tuah, then immediately alt+f4'd the game.
I love war thunder but their prices have always been out of wack only good deal is when premium goes almost half off.. why I have never bought any. Theyd make the players mad who payed full price if they lowered it. however what if they just issued refunds or gave in-game currency.
This is crazy. $80 for a plane that's not even in a sim? You could buy a DCS jet for $50 when it's on sale and $80 normally, and it has a full-functioning cockpit and is a actual simulator. I ain't buying that shi
i dont have it yet but ive seen people do decently well in SIM with this, outside of SIM i will not even try to play this when i research it. imagine being in f15e the best plane of update and getting teabagged by 1960's plane
the f16 for dcs (not on sale, where it actually is mostly on sale) is the same, also the dcs viggen is 60 dollars while not on sale and as of writing this its on 30 dollars
Im not sure if its just me but since the new update at the edges of models there seems to be some thin black outline. Kind of reminds me a TINY TINY bit of borderlands
this plane SUCKS my 120s like there's no tomorrow man, gaijin if you are reading this thank you so much for giving this to new players as canon fodder to my Harrier II
comedically i for some reason had closed captions on and it went oh hey gaijin added a new premium and its a vegan. Its 80 bucks... me... well that certainly doesnt seem right but you know gaijin has lost their marbles somewhere.
Ja37c viggen is the best one in BR to performance ratio, wouldn’t recommend flying that model above 11.3 The DF missles with rb24j’s paired with a great PD and IRST is terrific at punching things above its br but only if used as fighter/support aircraft. Dogfighting is fun for the first few turns but after that it’s just a rate fight to see who smashes into the deck first. But will hold speed well being extremely competitive for its br counterparts. Regardless good luck and fly safe!!
The F-15E shouldn't be anything more to worry about in the air, since it's the the original's chubbier brother Strike Eagle. On the ground though, worry.
This thing has a way better kit than the J8F and the sea harrier at the same br so idk which is better tbh. Plus it has way more countermeasures than the J8.
IF this was any other game or studio, the comunity would bomb the reviews and completele spam the studio, but WT comunity is used to this pricings probably already... One premium that costs more than AAA title game is insane and there is no justice for that since the same plane is already in the tech tree, only a different variant. Most funny thing about this is that if the plane cost all like 50% less I would actually buy a lot of them. But I wont support this BS. Last plane I bought was the F5 years ago when even the cost were nicer. F20 is my most favourite plane in the wolr, but man there are like kids playing this game as I once was x years ago that dont have 80€ or cant even justify the pricetag for like parents. I lvoe WT but hate the economy gaijin presents. And I hate that we are mad about it but we do nothing and still buy these. Even though this one rly sucks and is probably worth 30€ in THIS economy we have now. Shame on you gaijin
i think u dont play that much games, if you would know that theres a ton of games where you can buy stuff for $ but mostly you get only skins. And comparing that premium with AAA title Games didnt make sense, did you forget that Warthunder is full free game and has more content inside then most AAA ever would get? You even have the option to grind the same plane in the Tech Tree without spending any $. I dont realy understand the hate about those packages where u even get some Premium time + GE. You dont get any kind of advantage over other players mostly even disadvantage if you go by Joob´s opinion. I would rather have option to buy those kind of Packages then a skin for that price.
@@Fr33styLLeR I'm gonna be real with you dude, you're suffering from terminal War Thunder-itis, War Thunder does a few things better than AAA, but it's still bad, it doesn't get excused because other games are worse. OSRS is a game that has been going on for literal decades now and it is true that to play through the entire content, you have to have membership...but also it is very cheap, and let's be honest here, everyone pays for premium accounts in War Thunder because no one progresses higher than rank 5 without it at a reasonable pace, just because it's possible, doesn't mean it's doable. OSRS has a grind MUCH longer than War Thunder yet it is a THOUSAND times better, it feels better, you have way more fun, and it is generally a much better time, trust me, play that game, you'll find out that grinds that feel fun exists. Oh, and about your point about the packages, the point is that this is an $80 plane because Gaijin wants to siphon money from everyone, not because it's actually worth $80.
@@Fr33styLLeR Well, yes but no. A lot of planes are not accesible by tech tree and are locked to a premium (like the f20 i mentioned). And Im not saying to get rid of paid content and premiums, just saying the prices are comming up more expensive and its nor relating of the planes that you get for the more money you spend nowadays. If it continues we will have 100€ premium in a year. And I would rather pay for a skin that gives 0 advantage and is actually only a visual than not beeing able to play a "character" because its behind a paywall... And what u said about the games well... I think most of us would rather pay for a WHOLE GAME than picking one premium vehicle out of 50.
@@nattythepanda4692 I actually dont mind the WT grind too much. But I would welcome something like a 50% discount if you have all the planes In the tech tree you want to buy the premium. I have all US planes and I want to buy the tigershark just to play it,, not to grind and abuse multipliers. And since I get nothing out of the planem other than airframe and SL wich I dont care about, I really dont want to pay EIGHTY FKN dollars for that
do they like have no countermeasures or how does it work with these rockets i dont feel like readin 6 different wiki pages to learn a single thing for a game
The DCS AJS37 Viggen Module costs 59,99€, and I have about 2000 hours on that jet alone ( absolutely worth the purchase if you are into some a**-to-grass ground pounding). I have to confess though: I have a suprisingly good time with the tech tree variant, but I'm a Viggen Fanatic, The only thing that drives me nuts is the hilariously bad energy retention. I mean comeon Gaijin, one 180 and I'm basically 100% drained of my energy ? Seriously ?
Next year, $100+ premium F-22
A rank 7 prem costs 70$ a rank 8 prem cost 80$ and the f22 is probably going to be a rank 9 so yeah
Nah Gaijin will release YF-23 and T-50 for 100$😂😂😂
@mangosuppe8706 $100 each.
In fact make it like the F-89B and D, so you gotta pay for both to get the interesting one
YF-22
15.3
"I'm not going to judge you"
*judges you*
rightfully
"we got a premium AMRAAM plane in War thunder before GTA 6 that's more expensive then GTA 6"
It would never happen they said
Snail has lost it for years now. Its just you realize it now.
@Buggs_FKU I realized they lost their marbles since the IS6 was hot shit
what makes you think GTA6 wont be 80 bucks at least? BO6 is 80 bucks. And it sold like hot cakes. Why would Rockstar look at that and go "naahh 60 bucks is fine"?
They didn't even include the U95 jammer pod?
That was a major part of the upgrade because it contained both X band ECM and a very advanced RWR to enhance the built in one which is kind of bad.
The reason for the Di upgrade was to make a viggen that was both deployable in a NATO context and which was a bridge to the new Gripen fighter for pilots.
I can literally get a full fidelity DCS module for the exact same price gaijin is on meth
But can you get entire tech tree worth of vehicles with your DCS module, or are you stuck with single aircraft till the end of time?
@@Panocek Most player buy premium vehicles to either get to the vehicle they actually want to play, or to get to the latest meta stuff. Only a small portion will actually play more than a handful of the stuff they unlock.
@@Panocek fluoride consumer mindset
@@Rayjacker Handful of vehicles is still more than still being stuck with one.
@@KiloShock There was an attempt to be smart on your part, not very successful though.
Bro has the DLSS sharpeness cranked up all the way.
MY EYES
it look crazy like manga or something but i like it a lot
Yeah, turned it down but it seems finicky.
Before I was recording this it looked perfectly fine, but after a restart it looks deep fried. All the way down it looks fuzzy, anything else looks cartoonish lol
I thought I was seeing things thank god its not just me
If you belly land too fast your plane catches fire and eventually explodes...
for $80 you can get a basic flight stick and the Viggen in DCS which has full fidelity... unreal
List of things you could get for $80:
Headset
Desk
Office chair
Wardrobe
Any game now a days as a standard edition
New controller
The cherry on top: It doesn't have Datalink. The IRL version did have datalink.
lmao
Is the fm not accurate and underperforming?
@@Duality.12 Can't say, because i don't have it.
@@Duality.12I think it quite evidently is underperforming, but seemingly no top tier jet is performing “realistically”
for whatever reason gaijin doesn't like giving the viggen it's actual irl properties
You also missed something, this guy doesn’t have data link, so if you shoot the aamram out of pit Bull range then it has to guide in with with the inertial reference unit
its kinda insane they did this when the viggen irl did have data link
@@ProudOneit’s Swedish, of course they are going to fuck it over in some way
They have massacred its flight model. :/ My father was a Viggen pilot during the late '80s, '90s, and early '00s, so I have a special love for this aircraft. Sure, it's anecdotal, and it's been 20 years since he last flew the JA-37D, but he did say the energy bleed looks exaggerated. However, you would basically never pull fully on the stick constantly, as keyboard turning does in War Thunder.
the fact that it has no datalink so you have to launch your fox 3 missiles at less then 16km löl
What does not having a datalink have to do with the plane not being able to fire further than 16km??
that poor friendly AI mig15 getting smashed by an amraam
-13k SL: (you get about that much from 2 kills).
13k is a bit hard for killing 1 AI
Can’t wait for IAI F-4-2000 super phantom to come as a premium for 100 dollars
What makes it super
Being $100 obviously
@ F-15’s engines
@@gavinwesley5679it’s still just a phantom 💀
@@thatoneguy1741 you don't what a F15 engine would do to a phantom
I mean, you can get a full fidelity DCS module for 80$
Even worse right now since the AJS Viggen module is on sale for 29.99, so you can get either the Logi Extreme 3D Pro HOTAS or an Xbox controller and still come out with a few bucks for food/drink.
can you play it in war thunder?
Funny enough the JA37D in general is supposed to have an HMD and its radars signal was slightly imrpoved for AMRAAM
I think the biggest thing is really just BR the price yes is absurd but the plane and what it offers isn’t the worst. The BR is. How gaijin implements capabilities for certain planes and matchups is the problem. For air to have a comfortable BR range and not have compression where it’s at should be 14-15.0. But gaijin wants it players to suffer so they can buy things that make them feel capable.
Even if BR was to be increased, this viggen has to fight other Fox-3 slingers. It has to go against Flankers and F-16's.
Literally every plane it faces, is better than it. In terms of FM.
To spend $80 on a plane that is utterly useless when out of Fox-3 missiles, it beyond crazy. F-4E is gonna eat you alive.
Missiles are avoidable, but that 20mm in the dogfight, where you lose all your speed after doing a 180°? Not at all.
Maybe get it for $40 if you really want this plane.
@@Kumyaror for free in the tech tree…
Last time gaijin gives you a test drive 😂😂🤣
They didn't lose it, they never had it to begin with.
$80 bucks for a worse F-4F
From the recent nerfs to the viggen, an agile eagle phantom can outturn it.
@ my point still stands
@@jackgamer6307lmfao what the hell are you talking about
@@cameronscheer5371 In a sustained turnfight (assume 1v1), an agile eagle phantom (F-4S for example) beats the Viggen, because gaijin ruined the Viggen flight model an update or so ago
@@jackgamer6307 Neh, dont think så
I’m certain they will sell the F 14D as premium for the same price either this next update or early next year
It would've been a decent plane if they didn't butcher the Viggen's flight model so bad.
If anything it needed a slight buff.
Viggen was designed to fly low over the water, it has special radar to see the terrain.
calling it right now, premium f18 hornet 90 bucks...
I can easily see snail try to fish the wallet warriors for that much maybe even more?
F18A as premium, F18C as TT so they can copy paste all the ones that come out, I can just smell it.
this is the first update in my 8 years of slaving for the snail where i opened up WT, test flew the f117 night hawk tuah, then immediately alt+f4'd the game.
No data link, no good RCS, meh radar ,meh/bad airframe
Just buy the j35xs for grinding the swede tech tree
If you want fox 3 gold the jf-17
5:30 Chat😭
“im gonna touch you”
“thats the spirit!”
“can I be touched too please 😢”
@@TinyPotato_Chip i don't think he said touched😂
@@Viggenenjoyer 😭
I was just coming to the comments to point that out lmao
the Swedish air tech tree isn't even large especially at the higher tiers. i dont really see the need of a premium lol
brother turn down your sharpness it looks like a cartoon
shit looks like borderlands dawg
@@averies23 😂
It’s also in one of the small tech trees it’s not like the $80 premium is in the US or something
Gaijin is not crazy, the people who actually spend the money are the crazy. They fund gaijin's behavior and pricing
I love war thunder but their prices have always been out of wack only good deal is when premium goes almost half off.. why I have never bought any. Theyd make the players mad who payed full price if they lowered it. however what if they just issued refunds or gave in-game currency.
it's not all bad, now you don't have to grind out the swedish tech tree up to the viggen to test drive a viggen and use the funny backwards thrust
This thing is gonna be a team killing machine with no datalink
The in game chat at 5:42 lol!!
Can't wait for the YF-22/YF-23 premium packs in 2026!
$80 for one plane is fucked. Absolutely ridiculous.
Honestly you know how many mcchickens I could get for $80
'I'm not going to judge you'
Don't worry, I will
This is crazy. $80 for a plane that's not even in a sim? You could buy a DCS jet for $50 when it's on sale and $80 normally, and it has a full-functioning cockpit and is a actual simulator. I ain't buying that shi
Even on sale this aircraft wouldn't be close to worth it
@@casualspawnpeeking3680 yeh ikr
Gaijin making you pay the same amount as DCS when DCS is literally a combat flight sim lol insane
I'm just sad that then nerfed the viggen's flight model into the ground, so even though its a delta wing a slatted f4 can out turn it. Just stupid
"if your a broke boy just say so" - gaijin, pokimaine
Whatever post processing filter is used hurts my eyes. Somehow makes the missles a bit easier to see though
i dont have it yet but ive seen people do decently well in SIM with this, outside of SIM i will not even try to play this when i research it. imagine being in f15e the best plane of update and getting teabagged by 1960's plane
guarantee those people are waiting to fly it out on days where 13.0 is the top BR so they can lob fox3s at fkn phantoms and sht
Viggen entered service in 1972 and the F15 in 1976.
@@Hadgerzeven then, you just get gang banged by f16s while trying to get off the runway
Banger vid!
Man I hope the Kfir that carries the derbys doesn’t come as premium, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it does since we got this thing.
Rarely get to be this early to a joob upload :D
why was the premium in an cartoony ink style
bro has borderlands amount of sharpness on
The most honest, well-being of a war thunder youtuber here.
I love when joob posts
1:21 why does the plane look like it came from borderlands universe? that same drawing style.
Bro got the Borderlands in Post FX
the f16 for dcs (not on sale, where it actually is mostly on sale) is the same, also the dcs viggen is 60 dollars while not on sale and as of writing this its on 30 dollars
For anyone who wants to play a viggen, play the ja37c or ja37d, not the heap of shit that is the ja37dl
I have all 3. The 37C is my favorite by far
First I didn't get what plane it was and just heard "God damn it's a vegan"
Can’t wait to buy the Su-47 premium for $150
you know its bad when the 1st thing in a videos description is a 3% discount 😭
Meanwhile poor non fox 3 have to fight for their lives (
Im not sure if its just me but since the new update at the edges of models there seems to be some thin black outline. Kind of reminds me a TINY TINY bit of borderlands
Next thing you know, gaijin will uptier it against stuff it struggles to contend with all because “it’s turns really well” or just “DeCoMpReSsIoN”
Love the ending.
Now they have to add Amraams to the Tigershark, theres no excuse not to.
gaijin has lost it a long time
5:13 holy pucker factor
this plane SUCKS my 120s like there's no tomorrow man, gaijin if you are reading this thank you so much for giving this to new players as canon fodder to my Harrier II
take me back to 2016 when the game had some soul left
comedically i for some reason had closed captions on and it went oh hey gaijin added a new premium and its a vegan. Its 80 bucks... me... well that certainly doesnt seem right but you know gaijin has lost their marbles somewhere.
I bought the J35XS for 50% off...there is no way I'd pay $80 for that. The draken will get me there eventually, just gotta be patient
Oh that exacly plane flew in my home town Luleå base f21
Me personally it has been an amazing aircraft at 13.0 Air Sim. Simulator justifies it. It is very good at doing mid range dog fights
I would just CONSIDER buying a top tier premium if it was like... 20 bucks
Ja37c viggen is the best one in BR to performance ratio, wouldn’t recommend flying that model above 11.3
The DF missles with rb24j’s paired with a great PD and IRST is terrific at punching things above its br but only if used as fighter/support aircraft. Dogfighting is fun for the first few turns but after that it’s just a rate fight to see who smashes into the deck first. But will hold speed well being extremely competitive for its br counterparts.
Regardless good luck and fly safe!!
How is this 13.0 when the tornado with amraams is 13.7?!
we all knew this would happen
Basically all of the 12.7-13.3 planes arent totally un-flyable... but its close.
The F-15E shouldn't be anything more to worry about in the air, since it's the the original's chubbier brother Strike Eagle. On the ground though, worry.
This thing has a way better kit than the J8F and the sea harrier at the same br so idk which is better tbh. Plus it has way more countermeasures than the J8.
5:42 bro in chat is not happy
5:06 OMFG THATS ME
200$ su 75 checkmate
5:42 so we're not going to talk about chat?
2:57 it would be funny if they chamged the AIs into civillian airliners
brøther ...
You guys realize how crazy expensive its going be when the YF23 comes in as a premium 😭
IF this was any other game or studio, the comunity would bomb the reviews and completele spam the studio, but WT comunity is used to this pricings probably already... One premium that costs more than AAA title game is insane and there is no justice for that since the same plane is already in the tech tree, only a different variant. Most funny thing about this is that if the plane cost all like 50% less I would actually buy a lot of them. But I wont support this BS. Last plane I bought was the F5 years ago when even the cost were nicer. F20 is my most favourite plane in the wolr, but man there are like kids playing this game as I once was x years ago that dont have 80€ or cant even justify the pricetag for like parents. I lvoe WT but hate the economy gaijin presents. And I hate that we are mad about it but we do nothing and still buy these. Even though this one rly sucks and is probably worth 30€ in THIS economy we have now. Shame on you gaijin
And bruh that RWR looks diabolical
i think u dont play that much games, if you would know that theres a ton of games where you can buy stuff for $ but mostly you get only skins. And comparing that premium with AAA title Games didnt make sense, did you forget that Warthunder is full free game and has more content inside then most AAA ever would get? You even have the option to grind the same plane in the Tech Tree without spending any $. I dont realy understand the hate about those packages where u even get some Premium time + GE. You dont get any kind of advantage over other players mostly even disadvantage if you go by Joob´s opinion. I would rather have option to buy those kind of Packages then a skin for that price.
@@Fr33styLLeR I'm gonna be real with you dude, you're suffering from terminal War Thunder-itis, War Thunder does a few things better than AAA, but it's still bad, it doesn't get excused because other games are worse.
OSRS is a game that has been going on for literal decades now and it is true that to play through the entire content, you have to have membership...but also it is very cheap, and let's be honest here, everyone pays for premium accounts in War Thunder because no one progresses higher than rank 5 without it at a reasonable pace, just because it's possible, doesn't mean it's doable.
OSRS has a grind MUCH longer than War Thunder yet it is a THOUSAND times better, it feels better, you have way more fun, and it is generally a much better time, trust me, play that game, you'll find out that grinds that feel fun exists.
Oh, and about your point about the packages, the point is that this is an $80 plane because Gaijin wants to siphon money from everyone, not because it's actually worth $80.
@@Fr33styLLeR Well, yes but no. A lot of planes are not accesible by tech tree and are locked to a premium (like the f20 i mentioned). And Im not saying to get rid of paid content and premiums, just saying the prices are comming up more expensive and its nor relating of the planes that you get for the more money you spend nowadays. If it continues we will have 100€ premium in a year. And I would rather pay for a skin that gives 0 advantage and is actually only a visual than not beeing able to play a "character" because its behind a paywall... And what u said about the games well... I think most of us would rather pay for a WHOLE GAME than picking one premium vehicle out of 50.
@@nattythepanda4692 I actually dont mind the WT grind too much. But I would welcome something like a 50% discount if you have all the planes In the tech tree you want to buy the premium. I have all US planes and I want to buy the tigershark just to play it,, not to grind and abuse multipliers. And since I get nothing out of the planem other than airframe and SL wich I dont care about, I really dont want to pay EIGHTY FKN dollars for that
13.0 is crazy for AMRAAM
Yooo. New viewer here. Love it! Your keyboard sounds sooo good mannn. What is it?
do they like have no countermeasures or how does it work with these rockets i dont feel like readin 6 different wiki pages to learn a single thing for a game
The DCS AJS37 Viggen Module costs 59,99€, and I have about 2000 hours on that jet alone ( absolutely worth the purchase if you are into some a**-to-grass ground pounding). I have to confess though: I have a suprisingly good time with the tech tree variant, but I'm a Viggen Fanatic, The only thing that drives me nuts is the hilariously bad energy retention. I mean comeon Gaijin, one 180 and I'm basically 100% drained of my energy ? Seriously ?
Tbh I think this is a decent plane for top tier GRB if you intend to run anti-CAS, and don’t have the Gripen or the MiG-21Bis.
Pay to lose 😂😂😂
In canada its 110$, but Im assuming it might go down by christmass or January of 2025
It will not, it'll take at least until the Christmas of next year for the price to go down.
I only noticed now u came back with the “Joob” name 🙏🏼
You can literally have the Viggen in DCS for half that price
5:44 the chat bro thats crazy
lol whats with the empire of the rising sun in swedish colours tail art?
Gaijin is fiending for money
That graphics are way too "sharp" idk how its called in english...
reminder that 80$ is equivalent to 365d of premium
Hey Joob how long did it take you to get through props to jets?