1300 Euro might be more expensive compared to the price of the S23 Ultra and iPhone 14 Pro Max in the USA, but 1300 euro is cheaper than both those phones in Europe. (At least my country) It is not really fair to make a price comparison with USA prices when the phone is not marketed and sold there. You should compare EU prices to other EU prices. Besides, you you have a world wide audience, so if you make a video regarding a phone that is just released in the EU and Asia, likely most people actually buying that phone will be from that region too, in which case it makes more sense to compare it to prices in that region anyway.
Good point! And for people outside US and Europe (I live in Brazil) this phone on max settings, 12Gb/512Gb, Is cheaper in conversion than a S23+ 256Gb, and even cheaper than an iPhone 12 pro! So very nice option
Don't compare EU Xiaomi prices to US Samsung and Apple prices, 13 Pro is considerably cheaper than both S23 Ultra and 14 Pro Max here. On top of that you can have the same privacy concerns with these 2 brands as they also give data to both China AND US depending where do you live.
As much as I appreciate how much they go through to focus on the US/USD pricing as someone that lives there, some additional attention should be paid to disclose pricing in other regions in cases like this
Exactly, did they forget that with the iphone 14 series, the prices were increased everywhere except US?! And also the 14 PM starts at 128GB, better compare the price of the 256GB model, and then talk!
Don't know where in the EU you are in but here in Bulgaria the Mi 13 Pro is more expensive than the S23 Ultra. On the topic of privacy - there is no doubt that Xiaomi is a bigger risk.
16:40 These prices are normal for flagships in the EU. For example: the 14 pro is starting at 1299, the pro max at 1499. The S23 Ultra is starting at 1399. So the Mi 13 Pro has a normal price for EU.
@@ash11636 I would say xiaomi I'd not known as a cheap brand anymore since they branched out into smart home, scooters etc. All their stuff is fantastic, even the lower priced things.
Leica is looked at as luxury items now, but keep in mind that they were the go-to cameras for photojournalists back in the day. Robert Capa documented the spanish civil war as well as WW2 with his Leica.
I always feel like it's so weird, if people all over the world talk about Leica. They have their HQ in a small city in Germany, 15 minutes from where my parents live. To me as a kid, it always felt like they were only successful locally. Boy, was I wrong...
At this point I no longer understand why with camera bumps *this big* manufacturers don't just double the battery size. It's not like they're losing on thickness anymore.
What i don't understand is how phones became this thick yet battery size isn't bigger. I mean look how thick that thing is? I see batteries inside bigger that what my old 2017 Mi Max 2 had and yet that phone had a bigger than 5000mah battery(i think it is 5300mah) and was going for days. What is happening? Isn't battery tech suppose to get better? Why are thick bigger batteries no bigger than 5000mah?
@@SIPEROTH simple, really. Consumers have already worked out a habit of charging daily. So all that's largely *required* of a battery is to survive a single day. And improvements over that don't result in significant sales boosts. This is pure, if educated, speculation though. This kinda defeats my own original point, which I guess I now have to admit was more of a sarcastic retort at a common argument for poor battery capacities rather than a genuine message. But nobody should really be concerned with what I think if the message checks out.
Who wants the phone to be heavier than a brick and generate more just to gain an extra 2 hours of battery life. Phones are well optimised now and charging speed already crazy. Less battery is the way to go. I'd say 4000 or 4500 is perfect
Batteries are dense and when they try to fit in more at today's technology the weight of the phone increases drastically 5-6 hours with a 20 min charging is a win imo
The IR blaster is good for controlling many things, like MI TV, or the majority of air conditioning / TV with IR receiver while using 3rd party IR remote control apps, especially if you can't find the remote controls anywhere.
right but the built-in Xiaomi remote app is not great, only good for power and volume buttons on my LG. it got better with another app on the Playstore, easily beats the remote of my TV
@@zodiacfml for sure. The app I use has a learning function, so I can use it for stuff like my speakers. It just copies the existing remotes signal, and is a bit of a pain to get set up, but it's come in handy a few times when you lose a remote, as long as you have it learned before you lose it.
ir blaster is absolutely my most missed feature from my old galaxy. its not that you'll use it all the time, its that when you need to use it you'll be so glad to have it. especially when you have to change the channel on a tv in a McDonalds so you dont have to see sean hannity's face.
@@trilexi Why? nobody uses APS-C eqv. for lenses. Even APS-C lenses are talked about in 35mm eqv. terms. Not to mention that APS-C isn't always the same as Canon has 1.6x crop while all others have 1.5x.
@@filipruml The 35mm eqv. has been a standard for a long time and since it is a real sensor size it's not going to change (unlike aps-c which has different size depending on the manufacturer)
@@bastienx8 Maybe I wasn't clear because I 100% agree with you. Since it's based on a film standard that's more than 100 years old it's not going anywhere. My point was that it makes no sense to use APS-C eqv. because it's not a one format.
Friendly reminder that barely used pixel 5s are less than 200. Phones have stagnated so hard, whatever you need was probably made a few years ago and is a fraction of the price. New is pointless these days
The only issue with old phones is the battery, my father just switched to a new phone just because the battery in his LG G7 stopped holding enough power to be usable. But to be fair, batteries can be replaced for much less money then buying a new phone. (usually)
@@LukaSauperl honesty, I used the pixel 5 as an example because its what I've done recently and the battery is almost perfect. If you find a low use phone, the batteries can be pretty good, and the 5 doesn't even have an especially big one to begin with. There are plenty of old phones with massive batteries that'd make ip for the difference in age.
I just went for the Xiaomi 12T pro a week ago, the price went down fast from 800 to just 400 in 3-4 months and it replaced my Huawei P30 pro after 4 years. The Camera is good and the 120W charging is pretty nice. For 400 it was a pretty good choice.
Please respect the difference between "square millimeters" and "millimeters squared". 34mm x 100mm is 3,400 square millimeters (mm²). You said 3,400 millimeters squared, which is 11,560,000 square millimeters.
Still rocking my Mi Mix 2 that I imported from China when it came out. Battery definitely starts to become weaker but I will use this phone until it completely dies.
I change mine to a Poco X3 Pro great phone, but nothing compares to the feeling of the Mi Mix 2 ceramics it's feel expensive and solid really missed that sensation
I still use my mi mix 2 since the year it was launched. accidentally soaked in water 2 times. last year I changed the battery with 3rd party brand. xiaomi/poco batteries are easy to find
Still using mi6 since it came out. If u want you could always replace your battery for like 20-30$ and add a year or two more life to your phone. Thats what I did.
Would be great to see a bloatware showdown of the latest phones given you can't totally remove them sometimes and there has been situations where even though you hide them they will still run in the background
With Xiaomi usually you can remove all extra apps except some Xiaomi apps like their gallery app for photos or their music app or the notes app and calculator and security app to clean your phone etc. Also of course the Google apps are also there and only few of them can be uninstalled like almost all phones with Android really. In the end when it comes to bloatware you can't point your finger at Xiaomi as inexplicitly many RUclips reviewers do unless you only like Pixel phones that only force Google apps and nothing else because Samsung that everyone is fine with has every bit as much or more that you can't uninstall etc. Samsung has more Samsung apps as well than Xiaomi has Xiaomi apps.
Personally, I loved the last design with the "leather" back and circle camera bump especially with the gold accent around the cameras. Big fan of that look.
Most of the wear and danger of charging lithium ion fast is heat - so wireless charging is probably about as bad as the fast charging (whatever gets it more hotterer for longer is worse).
The thing with the ropes isn't about being rugged, its just the camera strap style thats in vogue at the minute, not sure why cause when you've got a 2 kg weight on the end of it it really kinda hurts.
It's actually cheaper than the iPhone 14 Pro Max AND Samsung S23 Ultra. When you're comparing US prices to EU prices you need to add like ~23% to the US price, which makes iPhones and Samsungs quite a lot harder. Which is, I would *guess*, one of the reasons that the Samsung's A line of phones and many Chinese phones are more popular in EU then in US. Current price for Samsung S23 Ultra in Slovenia: 256GB, 8GB RAM = 1399 € Current price for iPhone 14 Pro Max in Slovenia: 128GB = 1422 €
Sadly prices aren't uniform in the EU. As an example: If I were to import the XM13Pro, I'd have to pay 19% import VAT + 10% customs tariff on the phone's value+import VAT combined. So this phone, as shown, from AliExpress, would cost me around 1650€ right now. And I'm pretty sure in Slovenia it's even worse due to the higher VAT. But let's say I wouldn't want to pay import taxes and just buy it locally at a Xiaomi store (why would you want to do that, considering that the XiaomiEU variants are usually shipped with less features on the software side). 1299€ is very much the same price of an iPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB here. /edit: I'm an idiot, 1299€ is the price of the iPhone 14 Pro (which would've made for a far better comparison anyway but I digress).
When I bought my 12S Ultra, it came with a super high quality umbrella, a water bottle in the shape of a camera lense, a rechargeable desk lamp, and some pins and such. Pretty nice bonus for a phone that was already competitively priced and even came with an actually-fast fast charger (67 wattst). Oh, and it came with a screen protector already installed, which is still on there today and doesn't have any bubbles or peels in it, and a phone case (that I don't use). Amazing value for a phone that, just the device itself, is already an amazing device. Xiaomi is awesome, not sure what point the video is going to explain why not to buy it, but forget that. This phone is amazing, much like the majority of mainline Xiaomi phones.
It's a shame you don't make it clear in the video that Xiaomi is obligated to share data with the Chinese government for devices sold in China, to Chinese citizens. This does not include devices sold outside the US. That's a pretty big exception.
@@哇-n8d I'm not sure what you're trying to say. My point is only that channels like this scare people away from Chinese products with misinformation, all because it's more entertaining and trendier to keep up the idea that there's some sinister conspiracy going on with all Chinese products. It's disingenuous, at best.
I trusted Xiaomi, for years I had Xiaomi phones, Xiaomi 9 lite, Xiaomi 10 pro, and finally I bought Xiaomi 13 pro, I was overjoyed. New phone, great parameters, 12 GB of RAM, 512 GB of internal memory and such a low price. Well, as it turns out, you get what you pay for. After a short period of use, the phone began to freeze. applications took three or four times longer to land than at the beginning, when I called someone, apparently I sounded like a robot and no one could understand me. After connecting wireless headphones, the sound was terribly low, you couldn't hear anything at maximum volume. The charger is supposedly 65 volts, which is pathetic, but I have a 32 volt charger that charged faster. I 100% advise against buying this model. the bubble is staring. I'd rather invest more money in a phone that meets the basic requirements.
What the hell did you do with you phone lmao. I bought the Xiaomi 13 pro during the day it was released in my country and inside the case itself there was the 120w charging brick and charging cable. I had recently purchased a new charging cable as the current one had worn out due to use. Like you mentioned about the charging i had noticed that the phone charges using the 67w charging cable, but using the 67w brick i will not get the 120w charging speed. Also using any other cables will give me very slow charging speeds even if it was connected to the 120w charging brick. It has been more than a year since i have been using this phone as my main and so far in terms of bugs i had only noticed a major bug where my screen had gotten stuck due to me using the multi tab to play two different apps and then switching off the screen which got the screen stuck and i had to restart the phone and it fixed itself. I have as of yet not noticed the apps loading slower than when i first used it. I play plenty of games and have been playing Genshin Impact on the daily ever since i had gotten this device and now i also downloaded Wuthering Waves and play both games, and even though i have two heavy games on my phone i have not seen any slowing issues or drop of frames when casually using the phone. frames only drop in the game when the phone heats up or when battery is low. Speaking on battery, that may be the only main issue i have seen with the phone. The charging is insanely fast, but of course using that charging speed for a whole year has taken a toll and the battery life has reduced for me. I also had noticed that when i connected my Bluetooth headphones to the phone the sound felt weirdly low, but after tweaking around the sound and the Dolby Atmos settings i was able to fix that issue. This was my first Xiaomi phone and honestly so far i have been loving my decision to purchase this phone in comparison to the flagships of Samsung or iPhone. To see you have faced this many issues with the phone makes me wonder what could have possibly been done with it to get such issues.
It's really funny seeing the concerns about privacy only happening on a Chinese Brand... Like... C'mon guys, do you alredy forgot abou Edward Snowden, the National Security Act and the NSA? I think that this reminder should be on every smartphone review...
The thing is you already give your data to the usa anyways by using google or amazon. So it is more of a question if you want to ALSO give it to china.
@@jaredanson oh yeah, one is controlled by old white guys who make wars with any country for nothing at all, and in the other is the Chinese people in command
Basically yes. You give up storage on the phone for some extra RAM that will be slower than the rest of the 12GB. Like on all of the other phones that have this feature you can just turn it off.
@æ thought so, but i remember emmc are not recommended to be used for swap. was it just dumb business decision or do we actually reach a point where it's fine to use emmc as swap
@@IzuShiTei It is mostly both, apps made by Chinese are BLOATED and requires a ton of ram to run and their apps are required to stay in background in order to receive notifications (they can't use FCM). So for phone companies, it is normal for them to introduce feature to "expand" memory size while hurting the longevity of the storages in order to urge for a faster replacement cycle.
They still just rarely talk about european prices. I should assume we do not represent most of their viewership, since they mostly talk about us pricing, not even canadian.
Galaxy S23 Ultra: £1249 Xiaomi 13 pro with the case and a super fast charger: £1099 (Mi points discount of up to £209.80 excluded) iPhone14 pro: £1099 No. The Xiaomi 13 pro is not more expensive than either everywhere.
I've had my iPhone 14 Pro for 5 months and kinda want to trade it in and switch back to android. Price comparison is quite the other way around in China, where top spec MI 13 pro cost you USD$800 and USD$1400 for the entry spec iPhone 14 Pro Max. I do enjoy the battery life of my iPhone, but the iOS just keep turning me off from time to time. Privacy is simply not a thing in our time and my country, doesn't really matter if I'm on MI or iPhone.
What is a reputable place online in China that I can buy the Xiaomi 13Pro? I also have a friend going to China later this summer. Any suggestions on which stores with a good price he can buy it for?
Just because it charges faster doesn't necessarily mean that it will wear down your battery THAT MUCH like some of you make it seem...more than likely the battery is split in two and has better thermal management compared to other phones. The thing that kills battery is overheating, and I can bet that doesn't stop you from using the phone in a hot day... Also why does those complains not appear in wireless charging? Appreciate the feature if it's well implemented and hope that it comes to other mainstream phones.
And yeah, like many others have said, 1300€ is about the same as the cheapest iPhone 14 Pro Max in Europe and Samsung S23 Ultra. Technically a little bit cheaper, since those two are a bit over 1300€ and the Xiaomi is a bit under. You can't do a euro -> USD conversion and then compare to US prices, everything's gonna be more expensive that way.
You can get the xiaomi 13 pro much cheaper than he suggested, Flossy Carter did a review on this phone,and showed you where you can get this for $799, I am in the UK and I have seen this phone got £799, so at these prices,ie £799 it's a great phone for that price.
Due to wireless charging being much less efficient=more heat than traditional charging wireless charging is still not very healthy for the battery either
Privacy is a good point, but HOW are you ok with sharing your data with Google ? It's essentially the same thing. Do you guys think that Google is free for real? It's free to use. They still collect your data, sell it, or serve you personalized ads based on your browsing history. And it's not just in google apps. You can search for shoes in Samsung Internet and when you jump to chrome again there we go with shoes ads. And i couldn't imagine Google ignoring US government requests for data either 🙄.
please "nubia z50 ultra" with 570$ price tag & only 8 apps which can't be uninstalled to be bloatfree, the only shortcoming is no wireless charging. for half of the price of 1promax and s23, you get flagsp killer phone lie decades ago. it has ir blaster as well and gaming vaporchambor with power consumption near to 6-7w for the soc
This isn't more expensive then the 14 pro max in my country, it isn't significantly cheaper but it definitely isn't more expensive. I've been using and loving the Mi 11 since it came out so I could see myself going Xiaomi again.
Im using a mi 11, i wanted to get a new one at the same price range and i was surprised to see phones getting released at the same price as the mi 11 but with worse specs :/
is your wifi module desoldered yet? Mi 11 has a hardware defect that the wifi module would be desoldered itself after a period of use (something like red ring of death of xbox 360), it is a design issue that can not be fixed. In China, Xiaomi offered a 3-years warranty after facing PR nightmare and public backlash, but I haven't heard that they offered the same period of warranty in other countries.
@@jcfawerd I have heard a lot of complaints about the wifi before, but I've had zero issues. I don't play games on my phone so it really never gets especially hot which means no desoldering probably.
It’s not supported in the U.S…so my question is if I buy this phone, how do I take pics and send it asap to my friends? Even if I use WhatsApp, I still need a phone number to use on the phone to connect with friends and family in order to send pics. I really want to use it as a camera, but convenience of sending pics right away while on vacation. I can always use public wifi as ways of transmission. Are there any apps that don’t need a phone number to send pics to friends?
@Carl Gunderson What less specifications? Apple A series chipset is more powerful while using less battery. Also you'll get more software updates and the vast majority of people don't give a damn about a bunch of software features that are mostly gimmics. Don't get me wrong, i'm not an Apple fan, i use a pixel, but you can''t deny that they have something very good going on. If i ever decide to spend over 1000 euros on a phone it's gonna be an Iphone because i know that it will age much better than this Xiaomi. I have an iPhone XS as a backup phone which was released in 2018 and it runs the latest version of ios 16 and will get ios 17 and more and it also runs perfectly smooth. Show me a single xiaomi released that year that runs android 13 officially, not custom rom.
@@S.G.199 You don't really need newer android versions and if you were using your XS for less than 5 years then those willing to spend more than the 1k$ on a phone will change their phones earlier.
This really is not a very good video. As other have mentioned, the pricing comparisons are wrong. Also, fast charging batteries that are made for fast charging really don't do that much damage, it's kind of a myth on most cases, and wireless charging is definitely not a better way to charge your phone at all. It's half as fast in this case, wastes 40% of energy to heat, and you can't use the phone when it's on the charging pad, and it's still attached to a wire.
No headphone jack though, even in 2023 it's still a must-have for me (I need it for my work). IR blasters are so good, I still keep my old LGV20 around just as a universal remote
@@adredy I teach group exercise classes at various gyms, the one commonality with them all is aux. I could use a usbc adapter but they are unreliable, and use a shitty DAC. My main phone is an LG V50S with a fantastic quad DAC and full hardware level EQ controls. It's also very handy for my car, where I leave an aux lead plugged in, and means I can still use the usbc for other things while playing music.
@@chrisogrady28 im not sure about aux in car get aux dongle :/ in this day im not sure if there is any god aux in phone last was iphone 15 years ago or old mp3 now not old ipod yes even ipod classic was crap :/ sony samsung old mp3 have good sound :/
This guy doesnt even care to research before hand, or at least do a quick search on the spot. camera placements? battery life? you should should know more about the product, thats the reason we are watching this shortcircuit
The price information is not serious. It comes from AliExpress and starts at a fantasy price of Euro 2,522 and shows Euro 1,261 after discount. The fine print says that it is the 256 GB version. I visited a Xiaomi flagship store in Bangkok today. The official price for the 12GB/512GB version is Euro 1,090 (including 7% VAT).
those apps with the blue dots are not installed, they're "recommended apps", aka ads. you can actually see the option to turn those off in the menu when Jake entered in the options.
I agree $1300 is too much but $940 for the Chinese 12+256gb version including tax and shipping is a pretty good price. To me it's better than s23+ which is $1000.
People from US or Canada should be aware about the pricing. Iphone 14 pro max usually STARTS at 1500 euroes in most EU countries. So here, Xiaomi 13 pro is not more expensive than iphones and others.
Hi, That is cheaper than an Iphone 14 Pro Max and Samsung Galaxy 23 Ultra in most countries in Europe. On standard prices, it is in Spain around 15 euro cheaper and around 200 cheaper than the Iphone 14 Pro Max. Additionally, the Mi 13 is 999 euro, vs. the 1209 of the S23plus and 1289 of the Iphone 14 Plus. So the last 2 minutes of the video would benefit from a reshoot, to amend pricing comments.
Great video, but about the price I live in Spain and the samsung s23 ultra 256gb costs 1400€ and the iPhone 14 Pro Max 256gb 1500€. So here is cheaper than the flagship phones. Anyways love this kind of content and LMG in general.
Smartphones have reached the point where every company is copying each other’s bits and put them on their phones. Hopefully we will see something innovative in 5 years time.
I wish a company that would release a phone with bezels, a hardened outer casing, a thick battery, expandable storage, and a headphone jack. That would be innovative almost excessively so by todays meager standards.
I've made the switch from Samsung to Xiaomi almost 4 years ago and I never looked back. Their phones are cheaper and do the same thing so I see nothing wrong with Xiaomi. Obviously it's Chinese but then again what tech isn't made in China lol.
Can we agree as a society to please, for the love of all that is holy, stop using nomenclature like WQHD+ when describing screen resolution? Please please please just say the resolution.
@@JoshuaG Samsung guarantees since last year for all new A and S class 4 major updates and 5 years auf security updates. At Xiaomi it varies and for the 13 Pro they only promise 3 major updates. While updates from Xiaomi often come a lot later than from Samsung.
An Iphone 14 Pro Max starts from 1489€ here in Italy, so this doesn't seem like a bad deal if you think that its price will drop significantly in the coming months
Sure Xiaomi might share your data but who's to say Samsung or Apple or Google or Microsoft or Sony or whatever tech company you want to support doesn't share your data? Lol so say that one company does it just because they've been caught doesn't mean all other tech companies don't do the same lol.
Indeed. I know with my OnePlus 11 they advertised 1600 charge cycles before going down to 80% battery health and that's with the 80w SuperVOOC charging. This phone shown in the video has the same tech in it but charges at 120w(assuming you use 220v). These phones can charge that quick because they moved some charge circuitry from the phone to the power brick and cable you have to use. Phones are very intelligent as well to dial down the charge speed when needed to not damage the battery.
@@craigpodsprojames2500 Those claims are basically 100% based on what these companies have said. I wouldn't trust them very much because it doesn't even make sense on the face of it. More watts equals more heat generation and excess heat. How does that equal a better longevity for a battery?
@@哇-n8d No it's because these super fast 80-120+ watt chargers are fairly new and we don't know how badly they will effect battery in the long term. A ton of these may need new batteries every year which will likely be expensive and niche as they use weird battery designs. All of the claims of them being ok is based off the info from the companies trying to sell them to you.
I dont understand the privacy issues.People use american software,OS es,websites that use american software that collect as much data as possible but when it comes to chinese phone then it is problem??Like pixel,I have never heard from a major tech review channel a privacy concern when it comes to pixel despite it is googles phone,a company that collects ur data and makes profit with ads.If u want to be secure use open source OS es,open source softwares,maybe virtual machines to contain data collecting apps. I am not sure this privacy concerns is genuine.If it is abt chinese goverment wanting the data not companies,well I dont think western companies secure their data from goverments either. I dont like my datas collected,profiled but as a person lives in a country with no free speech I am glad that my data isnt collected within borders.
I'm still rocking my Xiaomi MI 10 Ultra. Yet to find a phone, iPhone 14 Pro, S23 Ultra etc... that comes close. I love that Xiaomi's full res camera option can be added to the shortcuts and that it doesn't AI the sh1t out of your images.
Lol bought the s23u coming from a note8pro and damn I'll go back to the remi until I've made a better choice, nothing is worth for this s23u since the note8pro was such a great deal for almost a tenth of the price of the Sammy.
Yeah man I don't know why people hate on Xiaomi, I m still rocking my mi10t for almost 3 yrs now, battery has gone down a bit, but the phone still performs like day 1. And the added bonus is mi account which no one tells you about.
The problem with Xiaomi getting up to that price point is normal consumers only trust 2 phone brands that is Samsung and iPhone so I don't think it's a good idea to try to compete with them, even here in my country after they announced the price people already have in mind that "at that price I'd rather go for iPhone"
i bought the mi 11 ultra for 1200€ when it came out, and here 2 gens later we have the PRO model for 1300€, im not gona buy an another xiaomi phone if they keep those prices, what is the 13 ultra gona cost , 1800€ ? prices are so fucking insane
I have been using 11T Pro 1,5 years now. For the price it is ok phone, but the thing that makes me pondering and switching to Samsung or iPhone is the how the software works and customer service. I mean, there is a lot of glitches and weird things going on, rigth from the start. Mostly it works, like 80% of the time.. The user interface is not as intuitive as with Samsung.. The customer service is not that good.. I tried to get help with my Vacuum Bot and first they did not reply at all and when I send ”a bit more bitter” email, they just gave me the same advice as you can find from the web and not answering for all my problems.. After I explained myself more, they said to get contact for the retailer.. But this is only my experience.. 😊 But if the interface and the weird glitches are still there the price is way too high..
Just started watching this video and before I watch anything, I'm commenting this : In India, this phone costs 80k rs. Samsung s23 ultra costs 125k rs. Title of this video says to not buy this phone and I COMPLETELY disagree because regardless of the video, after using this phone myself and after comparing it side by side to s23 ultra, I say that the title of this video is extremely bullshit and wrong and now I'll continue to watch the video. If i feel differently after watching this video, I'll do an edit. Edit : I don't feel any different. It costs 80k in India and Samsung s23 ultra costs 125k. Iphone 14 pro and pro max cost even more. I don't give a shit about other regions because just like this, the prices of Samsungs and apples is also extremely higher in India in comparison. I guess regional pricing should've been a part of this video.
I love this guy's vibe, he sounds calm, looks relaxed and goes straight to the point without making lame jokes like Riley. Different styles make this channel great!
I would prefer to see a review of the standard Xiaomi 13 (which is less money and will drop significantly ....). But at this price, if you are an android user, Samsung S23 series is a "safer" choice.
For me I'll be buying one of these because the Chinese version is 940 (including tax and shipping) for the 12+256gb model. Compare that to the s23+ which is $1000 which doesn't include a fast charger, tax or shipping and I'd much rather get this. Especially since to me while the 13 Pro is worse than s23 ultra it's definitely better than the s23+
You can tell this guy is a relatively new host because he didn't immediately start to compare that water bottle with the LTT one.
We're going to complain if they advertise too much, and you're damn right we're going to complain if they don't advertise enough!
Maybe he still doesnt know he cant talk about his salary
Bell is the main producer for the ShortCircuit channel
Can't compare when it isn't even in the same league 😤
- Bell
@@ShortCircuit Boom, roasted.
1300 Euro might be more expensive compared to the price of the S23 Ultra and iPhone 14 Pro Max in the USA, but 1300 euro is cheaper than both those phones in Europe. (At least my country)
It is not really fair to make a price comparison with USA prices when the phone is not marketed and sold there. You should compare EU prices to other EU prices.
Besides, you you have a world wide audience, so if you make a video regarding a phone that is just released in the EU and Asia, likely most people actually buying that phone will be from that region too, in which case it makes more sense to compare it to prices in that region anyway.
Also US don't show VAT, in the EU price it's included. You can substract ~20% of the price, then compare it to the iPhone...
@@EnricoBrandt Good point! That might explain the price difference then!
was looking for this comment, that was a really wrong comparison
Good point! And for people outside US and Europe (I live in Brazil) this phone on max settings, 12Gb/512Gb, Is cheaper in conversion than a S23+ 256Gb, and even cheaper than an iPhone 12 pro! So very nice option
Needs pin 😔📌
Don't compare EU Xiaomi prices to US Samsung and Apple prices, 13 Pro is considerably cheaper than both S23 Ultra and 14 Pro Max here. On top of that you can have the same privacy concerns with these 2 brands as they also give data to both China AND US depending where do you live.
As much as I appreciate how much they go through to focus on the US/USD pricing as someone that lives there, some additional attention should be paid to disclose pricing in other regions in cases like this
@@joeykeilholz925 price is ok my boss pay me nothing :D
Exactly, did they forget that with the iphone 14 series, the prices were increased everywhere except US?!
And also the 14 PM starts at 128GB, better compare the price of the 256GB model, and then talk!
@@sushimshah2896they didn’t, they aren’t in the US.
But 90% of the viewers are
Don't know where in the EU you are in but here in Bulgaria the Mi 13 Pro is more expensive than the S23 Ultra. On the topic of privacy - there is no doubt that Xiaomi is a bigger risk.
16:40 These prices are normal for flagships in the EU. For example: the 14 pro is starting at 1299, the pro max at 1499. The S23 Ultra is starting at 1399. So the Mi 13 Pro has a normal price for EU.
@@ash11636 yeah, when the price isn't the chinese phones greatest advantage anymore , then what's the point of buying chinese phones
@@ash11636 i just curious why you compare phone by manufacture instead what inside/hardware they use.
But don't forget that prices in the EU are including taxes and in the states without. Also EU typically has one more year of warranty
@@ash11636 well if flag ship its make sense its pricey, especially in eu.
@@ash11636 I would say xiaomi I'd not known as a cheap brand anymore since they branched out into smart home, scooters etc.
All their stuff is fantastic, even the lower priced things.
Leica is looked at as luxury items now, but keep in mind that they were the go-to cameras for photojournalists back in the day. Robert Capa documented the spanish civil war as well as WW2 with his Leica.
but at that time photojournalists was "luxury"
With such histories, no wonder why Leica is cool and luxurious now
Praktica was the communist equivalent
montblanc also sold cheap pens for elementary students and schools.... look where they are now... JEEBUS
I always feel like it's so weird, if people all over the world talk about Leica. They have their HQ in a small city in Germany, 15 minutes from where my parents live. To me as a kid, it always felt like they were only successful locally. Boy, was I wrong...
At this point I no longer understand why with camera bumps *this big* manufacturers don't just double the battery size. It's not like they're losing on thickness anymore.
What i don't understand is how phones became this thick yet battery size isn't bigger. I mean look how thick that thing is?
I see batteries inside bigger that what my old 2017 Mi Max 2 had and yet that phone had a bigger than 5000mah battery(i think it is 5300mah) and was going for days.
What is happening? Isn't battery tech suppose to get better? Why are thick bigger batteries no bigger than 5000mah?
@@SIPEROTH simple, really. Consumers have already worked out a habit of charging daily. So all that's largely *required* of a battery is to survive a single day. And improvements over that don't result in significant sales boosts. This is pure, if educated, speculation though.
This kinda defeats my own original point, which I guess I now have to admit was more of a sarcastic retort at a common argument for poor battery capacities rather than a genuine message. But nobody should really be concerned with what I think if the message checks out.
Who wants the phone to be heavier than a brick and generate more just to gain an extra 2 hours of battery life.
Phones are well optimised now and charging speed already crazy. Less battery is the way to go. I'd say 4000 or 4500 is perfect
Yes they are and wait
Batteries are dense and when they try to fit in more at today's technology the weight of the phone increases drastically
5-6 hours with a 20 min charging is a win imo
The IR blaster is good for controlling many things, like MI TV, or the majority of air conditioning / TV with IR receiver while using 3rd party IR remote control apps, especially if you can't find the remote controls anywhere.
Was at a bar yesterday and hijacked one of the TVs because I didn't want to watch sports. IR blasters are amazing sometimes.
right but the built-in Xiaomi remote app is not great, only good for power and volume buttons on my LG. it got better with another app on the Playstore, easily beats the remote of my TV
@@zodiacfml for sure. The app I use has a learning function, so I can use it for stuff like my speakers. It just copies the existing remotes signal, and is a bit of a pain to get set up, but it's come in handy a few times when you lose a remote, as long as you have it learned before you lose it.
ir blaster is absolutely my most missed feature from my old galaxy. its not that you'll use it all the time, its that when you need to use it you'll be so glad to have it. especially when you have to change the channel on a tv in a McDonalds so you dont have to see sean hannity's face.
It helped me out of #### so many times!
9:58 kudos for saying "equivalent"! Most reviewers omit this crucial fact.
He should have added a APSC crop equivalent
@@trilexi Why? nobody uses APS-C eqv. for lenses. Even APS-C lenses are talked about in 35mm eqv. terms. Not to mention that APS-C isn't always the same as Canon has 1.6x crop while all others have 1.5x.
@@filipruml The 35mm eqv. has been a standard for a long time and since it is a real sensor size it's not going to change (unlike aps-c which has different size depending on the manufacturer)
@@bastienx8 Maybe I wasn't clear because I 100% agree with you. Since it's based on a film standard that's more than 100 years old it's not going anywhere.
My point was that it makes no sense to use APS-C eqv. because it's not a one format.
@@filipruml My bad I didn't read correctly, it makes more sense now
Friendly reminder that barely used pixel 5s are less than 200. Phones have stagnated so hard, whatever you need was probably made a few years ago and is a fraction of the price.
New is pointless these days
Word
The only issue with old phones is the battery, my father just switched to a new phone just because the battery in his LG G7 stopped holding enough power to be usable.
But to be fair, batteries can be replaced for much less money then buying a new phone. (usually)
@@LukaSauperl honesty, I used the pixel 5 as an example because its what I've done recently and the battery is almost perfect.
If you find a low use phone, the batteries can be pretty good, and the 5 doesn't even have an especially big one to begin with. There are plenty of old phones with massive batteries that'd make ip for the difference in age.
I have a pixel 5 and is an excellent phone.
I just went for the Xiaomi 12T pro a week ago, the price went down fast from 800 to just 400 in 3-4 months and it replaced my Huawei P30 pro after 4 years. The Camera is good and the 120W charging is pretty nice.
For 400 it was a pretty good choice.
Please respect the difference between "square millimeters" and "millimeters squared". 34mm x 100mm is 3,400 square millimeters (mm²). You said 3,400 millimeters squared, which is 11,560,000 square millimeters.
He's in line and has a point.
Still rocking my Mi Mix 2 that I imported from China when it came out. Battery definitely starts to become weaker but I will use this phone until it completely dies.
I change mine to a Poco X3 Pro great phone, but nothing compares to the feeling of the Mi Mix 2 ceramics it's feel expensive and solid really missed that sensation
battery degrade hard over these last 6 months but i had my mix 2s since day one
I still use my mi mix 2 since the year it was launched. accidentally soaked in water 2 times. last year I changed the battery with 3rd party brand. xiaomi/poco batteries are easy to find
You could always replace the battery, shouldn't be too pricey
Still using mi6 since it came out. If u want you could always replace your battery for like 20-30$ and add a year or two more life to your phone. Thats what I did.
Would be great to see a bloatware showdown of the latest phones given you can't totally remove them sometimes and there has been situations where even though you hide them they will still run in the background
With Xiaomi usually you can remove all extra apps except some Xiaomi apps like their gallery app for photos or their music app or the notes app and calculator and security app to clean your phone etc.
Also of course the Google apps are also there and only few of them can be uninstalled like almost all phones with Android really.
In the end when it comes to bloatware you can't point your finger at Xiaomi as inexplicitly many RUclips reviewers do unless you only like Pixel phones that only force Google apps and nothing else because Samsung that everyone is fine with has every bit as much or more that you can't uninstall etc. Samsung has more Samsung apps as well than Xiaomi has Xiaomi apps.
@@VaporSpriteyeah but they come back after a reboot.
@@DaleonM4 If something can come back after a reboot then it was never uninstalled, just hidden. It was still there in the background.
Uninstalling bloatware is just a process of 2 minutes. GitHub, Xda have tools
@@DaleonM4 no they don't
Personally, I loved the last design with the "leather" back and circle camera bump especially with the gold accent around the cameras. Big fan of that look.
Me too!!
Most of the wear and danger of charging lithium ion fast is heat - so wireless charging is probably about as bad as the fast charging (whatever gets it more hotterer for longer is worse).
The thing with the ropes isn't about being rugged, its just the camera strap style thats in vogue at the minute, not sure why cause when you've got a 2 kg weight on the end of it it really kinda hurts.
they wished to have a representation of the amount of money they spent in the form of physical pain.
I absolutely adore this man's voice, the low grumble with his clear tone and speech pattern are bliss on my ears
Wait... hes a man?? I really thought all the workers at LMG were girls😬
Was thinking the same thing. Delivery and tone are incredibly soothing.
It's actually cheaper than the iPhone 14 Pro Max AND Samsung S23 Ultra.
When you're comparing US prices to EU prices you need to add like ~23% to the US price, which makes iPhones and Samsungs quite a lot harder. Which is, I would *guess*, one of the reasons that the Samsung's A line of phones and many Chinese phones are more popular in EU then in US.
Current price for Samsung S23 Ultra in Slovenia:
256GB, 8GB RAM = 1399 €
Current price for iPhone 14 Pro Max in Slovenia:
128GB = 1422 €
Sadly prices aren't uniform in the EU.
As an example: If I were to import the XM13Pro, I'd have to pay 19% import VAT + 10% customs tariff on the phone's value+import VAT combined. So this phone, as shown, from AliExpress, would cost me around 1650€ right now. And I'm pretty sure in Slovenia it's even worse due to the higher VAT.
But let's say I wouldn't want to pay import taxes and just buy it locally at a Xiaomi store (why would you want to do that, considering that the XiaomiEU variants are usually shipped with less features on the software side). 1299€ is very much the same price of an iPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB here.
/edit: I'm an idiot, 1299€ is the price of the iPhone 14 Pro (which would've made for a far better comparison anyway but I digress).
When I bought my 12S Ultra, it came with a super high quality umbrella, a water bottle in the shape of a camera lense, a rechargeable desk lamp, and some pins and such.
Pretty nice bonus for a phone that was already competitively priced and even came with an actually-fast fast charger (67 wattst).
Oh, and it came with a screen protector already installed, which is still on there today and doesn't have any bubbles or peels in it, and a phone case (that I don't use).
Amazing value for a phone that, just the device itself, is already an amazing device.
Xiaomi is awesome, not sure what point the video is going to explain why not to buy it, but forget that. This phone is amazing, much like the majority of mainline Xiaomi phones.
It's a shame you don't make it clear in the video that Xiaomi is obligated to share data with the Chinese government for devices sold in China, to Chinese citizens.
This does not include devices sold outside the US.
That's a pretty big exception.
@@CaidicusProductionsI don’t what the difference, sharing it to us or china. Youre acting like other companies are saints.
@@哇-n8d I'm not sure what you're trying to say. My point is only that channels like this scare people away from Chinese products with misinformation, all because it's more entertaining and trendier to keep up the idea that there's some sinister conspiracy going on with all Chinese products.
It's disingenuous, at best.
@@哇-n8d True, but most companies aren't complicit/in bed with a country that's actively involved in the Uyghur genocide.
Data privacy does not exist on any major brand. Wether it comes from China or anywhere else. Whatever they say is just PR.
The leather case was just a phone version of the old school Leica carrying case. Love that this was missed 😂
I trusted Xiaomi, for years I had Xiaomi phones, Xiaomi 9 lite, Xiaomi 10 pro, and finally I bought Xiaomi 13 pro, I was overjoyed. New phone, great parameters, 12 GB of RAM, 512 GB of internal memory and such a low price. Well, as it turns out, you get what you pay for. After a short period of use, the phone began to freeze. applications took three or four times longer to land than at the beginning, when I called someone, apparently I sounded like a robot and no one could understand me. After connecting wireless headphones, the sound was terribly low, you couldn't hear anything at maximum volume. The charger is supposedly 65 volts, which is pathetic, but I have a 32 volt charger that charged faster. I 100% advise against buying this model. the bubble is staring. I'd rather invest more money in a phone that meets the basic requirements.
What the hell did you do with you phone lmao. I bought the Xiaomi 13 pro during the day it was released in my country and inside the case itself there was the 120w charging brick and charging cable. I had recently purchased a new charging cable as the current one had worn out due to use. Like you mentioned about the charging i had noticed that the phone charges using the 67w charging cable, but using the 67w brick i will not get the 120w charging speed. Also using any other cables will give me very slow charging speeds even if it was connected to the 120w charging brick.
It has been more than a year since i have been using this phone as my main and so far in terms of bugs i had only noticed a major bug where my screen had gotten stuck due to me using the multi tab to play two different apps and then switching off the screen which got the screen stuck and i had to restart the phone and it fixed itself. I have as of yet not noticed the apps loading slower than when i first used it. I play plenty of games and have been playing Genshin Impact on the daily ever since i had gotten this device and now i also downloaded Wuthering Waves and play both games, and even though i have two heavy games on my phone i have not seen any slowing issues or drop of frames when casually using the phone. frames only drop in the game when the phone heats up or when battery is low.
Speaking on battery, that may be the only main issue i have seen with the phone. The charging is insanely fast, but of course using that charging speed for a whole year has taken a toll and the battery life has reduced for me.
I also had noticed that when i connected my Bluetooth headphones to the phone the sound felt weirdly low, but after tweaking around the sound and the Dolby Atmos settings i was able to fix that issue.
This was my first Xiaomi phone and honestly so far i have been loving my decision to purchase this phone in comparison to the flagships of Samsung or iPhone. To see you have faced this many issues with the phone makes me wonder what could have possibly been done with it to get such issues.
It's really funny seeing the concerns about privacy only happening on a Chinese Brand... Like... C'mon guys, do you alredy forgot abou Edward Snowden, the National Security Act and the NSA? I think that this reminder should be on every smartphone review...
It's like the American government screeching to a stop to try to destroy tiktok while refusing to pass security laws.
The thing is you already give your data to the usa anyways by using google or amazon. So it is more of a question if you want to ALSO give it to china.
@@sunnycyberbum but this isn't talked on LTT... And this disclaimer only happens on Chinese products... It's really weird to me.
@@gabrielaraujo6381 b/c there is a massive difference between giving your data to the US or Canada vs the CCP, its really not hard to understand.
@@jaredanson oh yeah, one is controlled by old white guys who make wars with any country for nothing at all, and in the other is the Chinese people in command
Google already shares data with law enforcement. There's basically no difference between smartphone companies when it comes to privacy concerns imo
11:45 99.999% sure it will just use 120 or 240 fps at 1080p and use bad ai to turn it into 1920 fps
correct me if i'm wrong, but the +3 gigs on the ram, it's just swap right? swap partition in linux
Basically yes. You give up storage on the phone for some extra RAM that will be slower than the rest of the 12GB. Like on all of the other phones that have this feature you can just turn it off.
@æ thought so, but i remember emmc are not recommended to be used for swap. was it just dumb business decision or do we actually reach a point where it's fine to use emmc as swap
@@IzuShiTei It is mostly both, apps made by Chinese are BLOATED and requires a ton of ram to run and their apps are required to stay in background in order to receive notifications (they can't use FCM). So for phone companies, it is normal for them to introduce feature to "expand" memory size while hurting the longevity of the storages in order to urge for a faster replacement cycle.
iPhone 14 Pro Max is no less than 1500€ in Europe retail. So it's 200€ off at least here in Europe for Xiaomi 13 Pro.
They still just rarely talk about european prices. I should assume we do not represent most of their viewership, since they mostly talk about us pricing, not even canadian.
Galaxy S23 Ultra: £1249
Xiaomi 13 pro with the case and a super fast charger: £1099 (Mi points discount of up to £209.80 excluded)
iPhone14 pro: £1099
No. The Xiaomi 13 pro is not more expensive than either everywhere.
I've had my iPhone 14 Pro for 5 months and kinda want to trade it in and switch back to android. Price comparison is quite the other way around in China, where top spec MI 13 pro cost you USD$800 and USD$1400 for the entry spec iPhone 14 Pro Max. I do enjoy the battery life of my iPhone, but the iOS just keep turning me off from time to time. Privacy is simply not a thing in our time and my country, doesn't really matter if I'm on MI or iPhone.
Where do you live that the Xiaomi is only 800?
@@graysondaniels7301 I live in mainland China
@@graysondaniels7301 China Price:Xiaomi 13Pro 8+256GB =5399CNY=785USD
What is a reputable place online in China that I can buy the Xiaomi 13Pro? I also have a friend going to China later this summer. Any suggestions on which stores with a good price he can buy it for?
@@elliemagnus9731which store in Beijing will sell this phone at that price?
Every time tech reviewers talk about "send data to china" they convenient forget about prism, five eyes, NSA and what happened to Asange and Snowden.
Just because it charges faster doesn't necessarily mean that it will wear down your battery THAT MUCH like some of you make it seem...more than likely the battery is split in two and has better thermal management compared to other phones.
The thing that kills battery is overheating, and I can bet that doesn't stop you from using the phone in a hot day...
Also why does those complains not appear in wireless charging? Appreciate the feature if it's well implemented and hope that it comes to other mainstream phones.
Yeah the more impactful change one can make is not charging to full 100%. 70% is a huge difference
15:10 phone SoCs aren't Intel/AMD desktop chips. The start light throttling at 40-50°C and heavy throttling at 60°C
That switch between cameras in video mode was rough.
"This phone is great, but you shouldn't buy it"
... would be a better title
And yeah, like many others have said, 1300€ is about the same as the cheapest iPhone 14 Pro Max in Europe and Samsung S23 Ultra. Technically a little bit cheaper, since those two are a bit over 1300€ and the Xiaomi is a bit under. You can't do a euro -> USD conversion and then compare to US prices, everything's gonna be more expensive that way.
The issue is that EU has tax included.
Also, Xiaomi gives you a charger
You can get the xiaomi 13 pro much cheaper than he suggested, Flossy Carter did a review on this phone,and showed you where you can get this for $799, I am in the UK and I have seen this phone got £799, so at these prices,ie £799 it's a great phone for that price.
Due to wireless charging being much less efficient=more heat than traditional charging wireless charging is still not very healthy for the battery either
it's called punctuation, man.
Yea i need to work on that tbh
What's the point in showing off gift pack/media packaging when customers won't get it.
This needs to end.
The colour science from Leica and the 75mm f2 portrait lens alone make this worth it
Privacy is a good point, but HOW are you ok with sharing your data with Google ? It's essentially the same thing. Do you guys think that Google is free for real? It's free to use. They still collect your data, sell it, or serve you personalized ads based on your browsing history. And it's not just in google apps. You can search for shoes in Samsung Internet and when you jump to chrome again there we go with shoes ads. And i couldn't imagine Google ignoring US government requests for data either 🙄.
All these megapixels and probably the 12mp pixel 6a still beats it
please "nubia z50 ultra" with 570$ price tag & only 8 apps which can't be uninstalled to be bloatfree, the only shortcoming is no wireless charging. for half of the price of 1promax and s23, you get flagsp killer phone lie decades ago. it has ir blaster as well and gaming vaporchambor with power consumption near to 6-7w for the soc
This isn't more expensive then the 14 pro max in my country, it isn't significantly cheaper but it definitely isn't more expensive. I've been using and loving the Mi 11 since it came out so I could see myself going Xiaomi again.
Im using a mi 11, i wanted to get a new one at the same price range and i was surprised to see phones getting released at the same price as the mi 11 but with worse specs :/
is your wifi module desoldered yet? Mi 11 has a hardware defect that the wifi module would be desoldered itself after a period of use (something like red ring of death of xbox 360), it is a design issue that can not be fixed. In China, Xiaomi offered a 3-years warranty after facing PR nightmare and public backlash, but I haven't heard that they offered the same period of warranty in other countries.
@@jcfawerd I have heard a lot of complaints about the wifi before, but I've had zero issues.
I don't play games on my phone so it really never gets especially hot which means no desoldering probably.
1080p front facing video on a 2023 flagship smartphone still doesn't make sense to me
I doubt the heat from wireless charging losses makes it better for the battery even if lower total power
Umm... Iphone pro max 256gb in Europe is 1600€. Even the 128gb is 1469€.
I am shocked about the price, since in China, Xiaomi 13pro is ¥5800 which is about $790😂not €1200
It’s not supported in the U.S…so my question is if I buy this phone, how do I take pics and send it asap to my friends? Even if I use WhatsApp, I still need a phone number to use on the phone to connect with friends and family in order to send pics. I really want to use it as a camera, but convenience of sending pics right away while on vacation. I can always use public wifi as ways of transmission. Are there any apps that don’t need a phone number to send pics to friends?
Really like this guy. The voice is so smooth, pls more of him as a host
30fps for the video recording? You should've recorded 4k 60 bro.
Sweet Christmas, I might as well wait for the iPhone 15 Pro at that price.
@Carl Gunderson What less specifications? Apple A series chipset is more powerful while using less battery.
Also you'll get more software updates and the vast majority of people don't give a damn about a bunch of software features that are mostly gimmics.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not an Apple fan, i use a pixel, but you can''t deny that they have something very good going on. If i ever decide to spend over 1000 euros on a phone it's gonna be an Iphone because i know that it will age much better than this Xiaomi.
I have an iPhone XS as a backup phone which was released in 2018 and it runs the latest version of ios 16 and will get ios 17 and more and it also runs perfectly smooth. Show me a single xiaomi released that year that runs android 13 officially, not custom rom.
@@S.G.199 You don't really need newer android versions and if you were using your XS for less than 5 years then those willing to spend more than the 1k$ on a phone will change their phones earlier.
This really is not a very good video. As other have mentioned, the pricing comparisons are wrong. Also, fast charging batteries that are made for fast charging really don't do that much damage, it's kind of a myth on most cases, and wireless charging is definitely not a better way to charge your phone at all. It's half as fast in this case, wastes 40% of energy to heat, and you can't use the phone when it's on the charging pad, and it's still attached to a wire.
Bell nailed the bread weight and told the audience that they're beautiful as they are really made my day
Couldn't this guy/channel have rehearsed this video just a tiny bit? Like knowing where which camera on the back is located? Cmon man....
No headphone jack though, even in 2023 it's still a must-have for me (I need it for my work).
IR blasters are so good, I still keep my old LGV20 around just as a universal remote
for what ? i you need jack get sony mp3 player :D
@@adredy I teach group exercise classes at various gyms, the one commonality with them all is aux. I could use a usbc adapter but they are unreliable, and use a shitty DAC. My main phone is an LG V50S with a fantastic quad DAC and full hardware level EQ controls.
It's also very handy for my car, where I leave an aux lead plugged in, and means I can still use the usbc for other things while playing music.
@@adredy car audio is still king with a headphone jack tbh
@@chrisogrady28 im not sure about aux in car get aux dongle :/ in this day im not sure if there is any god aux in phone last was iphone 15 years ago or old mp3 now not old ipod yes even ipod classic was crap :/ sony samsung old mp3 have good sound :/
Still rocking v50
This guy doesnt even care to research before hand, or at least do a quick search on the spot. camera placements? battery life? you should should know more about the product, thats the reason we are watching this shortcircuit
He does have a really nice voice and he doesn't over exaggerate about stuff . Great job .
It was so sad to her the drawbacks since i went to an authorized reseller to have my earbuds warrantied and saw it😢
Jake as a Host is awesome. Felt comfortable watching him and a kind of "fresh wind" for ShortCircuit :)
@Devwardhan_Kothari Jake Bellavance is his full name but yeah usually called Bell.
The price information is not serious. It comes from AliExpress and starts at a fantasy price of Euro 2,522 and shows Euro 1,261 after discount. The fine print says that it is the 256 GB version. I visited a Xiaomi flagship store in Bangkok today. The official price for the 12GB/512GB version is Euro 1,090 (including 7% VAT).
Not sure if he's new or just new to me, but I like his calm review style, but engaging enough to keep me interested
Pleasea keep in mind this was not a review, he said as much at the end of the video
those apps with the blue dots are not installed, they're "recommended apps", aka ads. you can actually see the option to turn those off in the menu when Jake entered in the options.
ir blaster but no aux jack, wack
Companies refusing to hear consumer demand.
I'm actually surprised there's no cable in the box, unless you guys forgot about it.
Yeah i refuse to believe there is no cable in the box. As it's kinda difficult to find a cable that does more than 100w.
1300?!! Xiaomi you crazy.
I agree $1300 is too much but $940 for the Chinese 12+256gb version including tax and shipping is a pretty good price. To me it's better than s23+ which is $1000.
Can we keep the little potted plant on frame from now on?
Protip: Get the Redmi 12 Explorer Edition for an awesome price and awesome features
210w is too much
No
Charging speed is subjective...
For my opinion the sweet spot is around 65w-80w
People from US or Canada should be aware about the pricing. Iphone 14 pro max usually STARTS at 1500 euroes in most EU countries. So here, Xiaomi 13 pro is not more expensive than iphones and others.
Privacy is a joke nowadays. There's not a single company that doesn't share data.
I doubt that the cable didn't come in the box. Maybe you didn't look good enough?
The price is just not right!
Xiaomi speakers sound better imo. Less processed. I would be interested to see what the settings are.
The top down view on the new deskpad is amazing
It's available now for under $300 and is available in the US, and yes, that is new. $1300 I wonder how long that price lasted?
Man knows his bread 🍞
Hi,
That is cheaper than an Iphone 14 Pro Max and Samsung Galaxy 23 Ultra in most countries in Europe. On standard prices, it is in Spain around 15 euro cheaper and around 200 cheaper than the Iphone 14 Pro Max.
Additionally, the Mi 13 is 999 euro, vs. the 1209 of the S23plus and 1289 of the Iphone 14 Plus.
So the last 2 minutes of the video would benefit from a reshoot, to amend pricing comments.
How many back doors does it have?
Great video, but about the price I live in Spain and the samsung s23 ultra 256gb costs 1400€ and the iPhone 14 Pro Max 256gb 1500€. So here is cheaper than the flagship phones. Anyways love this kind of content and LMG in general.
Smartphones have reached the point where every company is copying each other’s bits and put them on their phones. Hopefully we will see something innovative in 5 years time.
I wish a company that would release a phone with bezels, a hardened outer casing, a thick battery, expandable storage, and a headphone jack. That would be innovative almost excessively so by todays meager standards.
I've made the switch from Samsung to Xiaomi almost 4 years ago and I never looked back. Their phones are cheaper and do the same thing so I see nothing wrong with Xiaomi. Obviously it's Chinese but then again what tech isn't made in China lol.
Xiaomi has amazing budget phones but no way I ever would pay that much for a Xiaomi.
Can we agree as a society to please, for the love of all that is holy, stop using nomenclature like WQHD+ when describing screen resolution? Please please please just say the resolution.
Especially with hole punches and stuff it gets weird.
I see a third big problem. It's so expensive, although the software updates are worse than Samsung...
how is it worse than samsung ? i already got 4 security patch updates and 1 major OS upgrade on my Redmi Note 11 👍
@@JoshuaG Samsung guarantees since last year for all new A and S class 4 major updates and 5 years auf security updates. At Xiaomi it varies and for the 13 Pro they only promise 3 major updates. While updates from Xiaomi often come a lot later than from Samsung.
So we completely forgot Snowden and the NSA thing, right? Hypocritical.
when you realize in India its around 850$ with offers and all
Xiaomi is not meant for the flagship space it seems
An Iphone 14 Pro Max starts from 1489€ here in Italy, so this doesn't seem like a bad deal if you think that its price will drop significantly in the coming months
1,2k for a xiami is crazy
Get a pixel 6a for less than half of it
@@pvc8749 pixel 6a? come on, 60hz screen is a joke nowadays
@@hans-petermaier9000 Pixel 6 the pixel 6 that is currently 400 euros
Sure Xiaomi might share your data but who's to say Samsung or Apple or Google or Microsoft or Sony or whatever tech company you want to support doesn't share your data? Lol so say that one company does it just because they've been caught doesn't mean all other tech companies don't do the same lol.
The video looked kind of choppy. Is that how it actually looks on the phone, or did it just come out like that on the video?
auto fps is turned on thats why it goes to slow shutter mode.
It's only bad for the battery if the battery gets hot. Otherwise, have at it!
Indeed. I know with my OnePlus 11 they advertised 1600 charge cycles before going down to 80% battery health and that's with the 80w SuperVOOC charging. This phone shown in the video has the same tech in it but charges at 120w(assuming you use 220v). These phones can charge that quick because they moved some charge circuitry from the phone to the power brick and cable you have to use. Phones are very intelligent as well to dial down the charge speed when needed to not damage the battery.
The 50W wireless is probably worse for the battery than the 120W wired. I'm not an expert though
i think people are just hating it because Apple isn’t doing it, apple means true facts.
@@craigpodsprojames2500 Those claims are basically 100% based on what these companies have said. I wouldn't trust them very much because it doesn't even make sense on the face of it. More watts equals more heat generation and excess heat. How does that equal a better longevity for a battery?
@@哇-n8d No it's because these super fast 80-120+ watt chargers are fairly new and we don't know how badly they will effect battery in the long term. A ton of these may need new batteries every year which will likely be expensive and niche as they use weird battery designs.
All of the claims of them being ok is based off the info from the companies trying to sell them to you.
I dont understand the privacy issues.People use american software,OS es,websites that use american software that collect as much data as possible but when it comes to chinese phone then it is problem??Like pixel,I have never heard from a major tech review channel a privacy concern when it comes to pixel despite it is googles phone,a company that collects ur data and makes profit with ads.If u want to be secure use open source OS es,open source softwares,maybe virtual machines to contain data collecting apps. I am not sure this privacy concerns is genuine.If it is abt chinese goverment wanting the data not companies,well I dont think western companies secure their data from goverments either.
I dont like my datas collected,profiled but as a person lives in a country with no free speech I am glad that my data isnt collected within borders.
how long has the Wan show desk mat been a thing? I love the subdued colors compared to the usual northern lights that is usually shown
They announced it on wan show sometime within the last month I think
Early last year? i assume u meant late?
I'm still rocking my Xiaomi MI 10 Ultra. Yet to find a phone, iPhone 14 Pro, S23 Ultra etc... that comes close. I love that Xiaomi's full res camera option can be added to the shortcuts and that it doesn't AI the sh1t out of your images.
Did you import one to your own country or did you travel to China to get one?
Lol bought the s23u coming from a note8pro and damn I'll go back to the remi until I've made a better choice, nothing is worth for this s23u since the note8pro was such a great deal for almost a tenth of the price of the Sammy.
@@anetizen6404 Import. Giztop.
Yeah man I don't know why people hate on Xiaomi, I m still rocking my mi10t for almost 3 yrs now, battery has gone down a bit, but the phone still performs like day 1. And the added bonus is mi account which no one tells you about.
@@metisa0034 Seriously, my Mi 10 Ultra takes sharper images at 5X (48MP) than the S23 Ultra does at 1X (50MP)
Does the camera switch during recording 60fps videos? (both 4k and 1080p)
can you set shutter speed for 60min ? :/ who knows
The problem with Xiaomi getting up to that price point is normal consumers only trust 2 phone brands that is Samsung and iPhone so I don't think it's a good idea to try to compete with them, even here in my country after they announced the price people already have in mind that "at that price I'd rather go for iPhone"
In my country people consider Xiaomi as an equal competitor so they def have opportunity. Unless they are part of fanbase of another brand.
i bought the mi 11 ultra for 1200€ when it came out, and here 2 gens later we have the PRO model for 1300€, im not gona buy an another xiaomi phone if they keep those prices, what is the 13 ultra gona cost , 1800€ ?
prices are so fucking insane
*The "GIFT" are not included, they are only for RUclipsrs.
big thumbs up for expressing concern about privacy... that should be part of any phone reveal/review
I could charge my Thinkpad T480 with that charger. Man, what a time to be alive
I have been using 11T Pro 1,5 years now. For the price it is ok phone, but the thing that makes me pondering and switching to Samsung or iPhone is the how the software works and customer service. I mean, there is a lot of glitches and weird things going on, rigth from the start. Mostly it works, like 80% of the time.. The user interface is not as intuitive as with Samsung.. The customer service is not that good.. I tried to get help with my Vacuum Bot and first they did not reply at all and when I send ”a bit more bitter” email, they just gave me the same advice as you can find from the web and not answering for all my problems.. After I explained myself more, they said to get contact for the retailer.. But this is only my experience.. 😊
But if the interface and the weird glitches are still there the price is way too high..
Just started watching this video and before I watch anything, I'm commenting this : In India, this phone costs 80k rs. Samsung s23 ultra costs 125k rs.
Title of this video says to not buy this phone and I COMPLETELY disagree because regardless of the video, after using this phone myself and after comparing it side by side to s23 ultra, I say that the title of this video is extremely bullshit and wrong and now I'll continue to watch the video. If i feel differently after watching this video, I'll do an edit.
Edit : I don't feel any different. It costs 80k in India and Samsung s23 ultra costs 125k. Iphone 14 pro and pro max cost even more. I don't give a shit about other regions because just like this, the prices of Samsungs and apples is also extremely higher in India in comparison. I guess regional pricing should've been a part of this video.
I love this guy's vibe, he sounds calm, looks relaxed and goes straight to the point without making lame jokes like Riley.
Different styles make this channel great!
I would prefer to see a review of the standard Xiaomi 13 (which is less money and will drop significantly ....). But at this price, if you are an android user, Samsung S23 series is a "safer" choice.
For me I'll be buying one of these because the Chinese version is 940 (including tax and shipping) for the 12+256gb model. Compare that to the s23+ which is $1000 which doesn't include a fast charger, tax or shipping and I'd much rather get this. Especially since to me while the 13 Pro is worse than s23 ultra it's definitely better than the s23+