GET THE 100AH MINI: gohobo.io/litimemini use code HOBOTECH [CANADIAN? gohobo.io/litimeca ] INVERTERS: hobotech.tv/amazon/#Inverters-Chargers [POLL: I did a manual count of the chop vs no chop comments and it's a virtual tie. Looks like I'm buying a saw...] PS - I been pronouncing the name wrong. It's supposed to be "LEE-Time"!
I think removing the battery top keeps the manufacturers from cheaping out on the assembly. I have seen other RUclipsrs criticize construction quality and the manufacturers made improvements on future releases, so yes, disassembly helps the consumer and should be included in your assessments. Thanks Tom for doing these tests, you and Jasonoid are really good at this.
I love that you give these batteries away to someone who will use them and appreciate them. I don’t need to see you cut them open there’s already so much waste in this world.
I agree. Do the testing and be honest about the results. Then give them to someone that can use them rather than destroying a battery for clicks and likes.
I don't agree. Cutting them open has really shown the types of build quality we are working with. Some of these "budget" batteries have had *very* poor build quality with sub-standard cells and we would have no idea without a break-down. A couple of reviewers cutting open their batteries could save 100's or even 1000's of us from buying some garbage. Donate the the cut-up battery and let someone have fun with it and put it back together.
I would say, don’t destroy a perfectly good battery, but that being said, I would be fascinated to see why this battery has such a compact profile with the same amp hours in such a small package. I would want to see how they did it, what corners they cut if any. As far as in general, what you do with your excess products I think you should give it away to your audience when you hit a particular milestones of your account or someone on your Patreon if you have one.
Just wanted to drop in and say that your promo code saved me $530 on a SunGoldPower solar kit that was already on sale - thanks so much for all you do!
Cutting them open has really shown the types of build quality we are working with. Some of these "budget" batteries have had *very* poor build quality with sub-standard cells and we would have no idea without a break-down. A couple of reviewers cutting open their batteries could save 100's or even 1000's of us from buying some garbage. Donate the the cut-up battery and let someone have fun with it and put it back together.
I have the older "big" version of this battery and my buddy just got this new Mini. We both built DIY power stations with them and saved like $700 compared to an all in one unit. Longer warranties and the ability to replace or upgrade modular parts is great.
I just finished my 11th home built power box... bolted to the floor in my old GMC camper van between the front seats. 300 amp hr Chins, 2000 watt Renogy inverter, 40 amp Renogy MPPT, BT-2 blue tooth, Renogy battery meter, 400 watts of panels on top, USB and 12 volt outlets, proper fuses. My friend's 8 month old Ecoflow in his motorhome went dead one morning. They sent him another within 2 weeks. I have all kinds of spare inverters, MPPT units, parts galore if anything fails. My friend uses his EcoFlow to power up electronic for music gigs and really depends on battery power.
I can see the point in cutting the top off to check the quality. I can also appreciate the fact that you donate them. Whatever you decide, will have no affect on the fact that I watch most all of your videos
I voted in the last poll to not chop the batteries up but in this case I support the decision to do a tear down because these LiTime minis are not the standard prismatic cells but pouch cells and I wanted to see the interior arrangement of pouches, BMS board etc. PS I have already purchased a mini and expect its arrival in 5 days. Thanks for asking your viewers.
You have the heart of a nomad. The community has a solid reputation of helping others in need. It reflects your heart and desire to help people with limited needs. When you are on BLM camping and obtain a way to harness energy from the sun, it is a life changer and makes life more manageable. You could make a follow up video with the people you have given them and see how the battery is holding up. It's too bad they cannot send you two for your research; one to open and the other to pay it forward.
As a side note, I really appreciate the reviews on this channel. You seem to tell it pretty much straight-up - if it's crap we know and if it's gold we know. Thanks!
I think chopping is important to keep the battery manufacturers honest and on their toes. I'd be glad to purchase one of your chopped up units to build an initial backup system for myself. Thanks for your great and informative videos!
Love the “Jaguar ” fuse box reference. As a diy guy, I’m a shade tree mechanic as well. Without a doubt the British Leyland electoral systems are a nightmare for me in the old days . Don’t chop them up. Most don’t even know what they’re looking at. I purposely didn’t buy my lipo4’s with the heating element. Wasn’t worth the extra cost as I do not charge at night and not that many days is it below freezing in my local. I just flip a switch to start or stop the charging.
Over the years, I had 8 Triumph Spitfires and 6 of the GT-6 cars. Lucas sucked. When I needed a heater fan switch from the British Only wrecking yard, out of 10 cars, all would be missing the heater switch. Many other electrical parts were similar. I bought these cars cheap...2 things ALWAYS wrong....rear axle U-joints would fail and knock badly as you stopped and the tiny joke of a clutch disk would be worn out.
I'm thoroughly impressed with the compact size and current price of this product. Its weight is similar to typical 100amp LiFePO4 batteries, or a pound or two lighter in some instances. I own an RV and have been contemplating adding extra batteries, and this may be the perfect solution for me.
Really been looking to some of the smaller form factor/weight reviews. Power Queen has one as well. Would love to see tests on more of these. This weight and form factor really helps in the truck for camping.
The teardown does make or break my purchasing decision. I don't buy unless I know whats under them. I bought these minis because I saw the build quality of the pouch cells and that put me at ease. I think most people could still make use of these batteries if you used a chisel to pop the top off. I know some aren't so easy and require power tools for choppin
I agree that seeing the build quality helps keep manufacturers honest but it won't stop me from watching your videos. I like that you are letting other people use the items you review, why have it go to waste.
I would think if I was to recieve a battery with the top cut off, I could epoxy it back to greatness. I would say cutting to inspect bms and construction is worthy of effort.
Hey professor! I know I'm late to the party on giving advice for the disassembly of the batteries you review, but I think having a look inside of certain batteries could be useful. If it's a standard size, standard weight battery for it's ratings, it's likely to have standard prismatic Lifepo4 cells inside and probably one of the standard BMS units used in most of the drop in LiFePO4 batteries. It's only when something new or special comes in that opening it up to see how it works or what cells and BMS are being used that opening the top could give you and your viewers valuable information. You are always going to have the crowd that won't buy anything unless they see what exactly is being used inside the battery, and you could absolutely still do that on every battery without compromising the seal around the top of the battery. It will require extra work and a little extra investment on your part, but it wouldn't be difficult to do. To start, you need to stick the battery in a deep freezer for about 24 hours. This will make the silicone or glue used to seal the top of the battery very brittle. From there, you should be able to take something like a putty knife and a dead blow hammer, and break the seal around the top of the battery without damaging anything at all. Now you are inside the battery with no damage. To get it back together with a functional seal around the top again, you can refreeze the original sealant and scrape off what remains on the top and on the battery casing, which will allow you to cleanly reseal the battery to have it's original weather protection and water resistance. As a backup, you could always get a plastic welder and go around the top of the battery after resealing, and you will be guaranteed to have a water tight seal again. Honestly, the new sealant you choose to go around the top of the battery should be enough to make it waterproof again, but if you really want to make sure it's waterproof, the plastic welder would certainly finish the job and make it perfect.
Loving this thing, thank you! As an off-grid newbie I've only recently got up to speed on all things power stations and using batteries like these hasn't really come up during countless hours of browsing, which is criminal! Looks like the big name brands are making us spend more and think less.
Very very helpful to see the configuration inside. I've seen some reviews that point out problems that are not seen inside. Thank you for all your reviews they help very much. Winter coming soon and would love to purchase one of your batteries you've opened up would be a nice back up for my solar generator.
No need to chop because without Freeze protection I would not buy the product. I want to compliment you on getting higher amperage charging equipment. I suggested - you delivered ! ! Great Job. Cheers !
cut open with Hot soldering iron (solder Tip knife blade type work good for this) then glue back super glue or maybe PVC - depends on plastic type I like seeing what is inside - build quality -
Victron Smart Battery Sense is a great addition to a LiFePo battery with no low temp protection. It is a temperature sensor for your battery. It will also send your MPPT the terminal voltage for more accurate charging.
Thanks for sharing, great video! Lithium batteries are much lighter than traditional lead-acid batteries. But LiTime 100ah min battery is even lighter and smaller! This is my dream battery!
Hey Prof. Don't worry about Cutting open the battery. Others have done that, nothing special about doing that. And if you plan to donate it to someone else, no need for the waste.
I like seeing it chopped up to see the build quality. Maybe if you can find another person to link to who chops it then leave it whole, but if you can't then show the innards.
I almost got 2 of these, but managed to find a 230 ah that took up a minimally smaller space and a higher capacity. With that being said, a pre-existing compartment, these would be the way to go for sure! Great video!
Can you ask the companies for a cut away photo for including in the videos? Then you can comment on components but still retain a good battery to give away.
@hobotech i really think you should give them to people that really need them you say you have so many you don't know what to do with them. I just found your channel i was searching for a way to use power tool batteries for some how storing energy im so confused on what i need though you're channel has been amazing i simply thought you could just batteries and panels not knowing about charge controller and everything else included. I didn't realize how much everything is it has blown my mind i cannot afford all these things tho i desperately need them to make my camper safe for my family. And have enough power to cook and shower and cool these insane temps in the summer here in Louisiana. Thank you for all the knowledge and yeah instead of wasting them there are families struggling times are hard seriously. Thanks again have a wonderful evening.
the only reason i might buy a 12v 50ah battery it is to expand my bluetti EB3A whour capacity. .But when i buy the bluetti AC200L imight buy the 12v 100ah with BMS intigrated for recharge purposes. with my small solar system maximum 400 watts panels. another good review hobotech most appreciated from up north Canada
These would be a great battery for replacing the Ryobi Riding lawn mower Lead Acid batteries (4 needed). I did it with the larger REDODO 100AH batteries but it was a really tight fit. (I would note these are slightly taller than the old 100ah design)
How they working for you? I've been consider just changing mine with a 48v server rack battery. So I don't have to worry about balancing the 4 independent batteries.
great review. I would you to pass the battery on to someone that can use one or need one. even a giveaway on you tube . There is others that rip them apart. great point. insulate the battery . so simple. can add a thermal switch and small 12V heater to insulated battery and can use in extreme cold. keep up the good work.
battery charging and discharging time testing is only accurate if the battery is fully back to room temperature after each test. The exterior case may show a slightly elevated temperature, however the internal temperatures on the cells will be significantly higher. Unless the battery has external thermocouple ports to read these temps, letting it sit for 5 min does next to nothing. It would need to sit for several hours for accurate time testing.
FYI, unless you’ve heard Li Time pronounce their name this way, I do believe this pronunciation is actually incorrect. Li (pronounced Lee) is the pinying spelling of the Chinese word 力 which means force. I’m an expat living in Taiwan. Just thought I’d offer that up. Love the channel. Learning a ton from these videos.
@@HOBOTECH OMG! Ok I'm freaking embarrassed. I was too busy taking notes and trying to keep up with you. I'll go remove my foot from my mouth now. Carry on...LOL!
You don't need to worry about chopping the top off. I like the torcher testing. If I have a request, could you do vibration testing? I use these batteries in a camper and a boat as a trolling motor. There is a lot of vibration, and I worry about the BMS being shaken to death.
There are enough batteries chopped up. If you want to see one, go back in the play list. You will find them. Give them away to your watchers. By the way, when are you going to be in Quartzsite? I could use a couple batteries, from LiTime. I love them. I haven’t had a problem with ours, and they get a beating. I built power boxes with them and I need to have a few more power boxes.
There have been differences in build construction from brand and even different models within the same brand in all these cheaper Lithium battery brands. Some people who are not technical don't care and will get burned on some purchases but I need to know whats inside. I think you can open most of these battery lids with a heat gun and the right pry tools and then reseal the top when your done.
Off the subject for today ….but why would the Ecoflow wave 2 ac cord keep popping it’s own …part of the cord …circuit breaker . Worked today new the first time but now will not stay in when plugged into the wall , even when I unplug it from the Eco flow wave 2 , just the cord plugged int the wall it still trips the circuit breaker on the plug of the cord . Thanks
I don't plan on doing any boondocking, just want to run some lights and the ice box when driving. What size battery do I need? Rv has a residential 20 cu/ft ice box. Great video.
Thank you for your review. I think it's great that you share the batteries with people who need them. I think the battery should stay intact so someone can benefit from it. As always, I like the information you share.
No, do not cut them open. It’s a waste for the environment. Most viewers wouldn’t care once they see the insides once or twice. Your format is perfect as it is. And it’s cool that you donate. Nice way to pay it forward.
I go to your website because you do complete testing. What are the cells? What changes gave the ability to go smaller? Pouches? What brand? Connections?
Some bright person could really sell a well designed temperature based 12v 150 amp relay that is packaged as an 'inline' device which can simply be attached between any battery and the charging source. This general purpose relay is not difficult in concept, but sourcing the components and putting them into a robust dustproof and water resistant package would take a little work.
Please review power needs for vehicle based, mostly 12v/120 appliances vs household appliances. Also, how to build install a portable system for vehicle use that can disconnect from vehicle grounding and then hook-up to home based panels and grounding. Thanks
I like your testing process, as it provides us real world info we need to know before buying. I say, no need to do a ‘tear down’. It is nice to know but think most people just want to know price/performance. My opinion; refrain from doing a tear down and donate excess equipment. Happy end users are the best for vendor’s sales.
I don't need you to tear it apart. I was wondering, could you somehow water cool it to take some of that heat away? Maybe submerge it to just below the top? Or set it against a glass fish tank? Just to get th a t heat away.
I would say no to chopping up good batteries just to look inside. Now if the battery suddenly goes on a rampage then it should be cut open to see what we might expect to happen to our batteries. I am wondering though about using two of these mini's in series for extended service on a four wheeled handicapped scooter for my wife. I have just the right amount of space to replace the two 12V X 35A SLA batteries that are on the scooter, but like your poll I have gotten both pros and cons feedback on using LiFePO4 vs lead/acid batteries. Any thoughts or suggestions ???
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[POLL: I did a manual count of the chop vs no chop comments and it's a virtual tie. Looks like I'm buying a saw...]
PS - I been pronouncing the name wrong. It's supposed to be "LEE-Time"!
Hi HOBO. How much can your discount code reduce the price?
Don't cut the top off.
Waste of time to chop it...
You are already giving people what they need to know in the review. If they want to get all teched out, see what someone else(Will)is doing with it.
you dont have to cut the top off the battery you can leave that to others .BTW i have seen inside that battery it is well put together.
I think removing the battery top keeps the manufacturers from cheaping out on the assembly. I have seen other RUclipsrs criticize construction quality and the manufacturers made improvements on future releases, so yes, disassembly helps the consumer and should be included in your assessments. Thanks Tom for doing these tests, you and Jasonoid are really good at this.
they probably make the first ones good then start to slack off when all the reviews are done.
Keep opening them. It can provide important insights into the build quality and keeps manufactures honest.
Only if he orders one himself and not if they send him one to test. They could send him one to review that’s modified so they get a good review.
Agreed. Need to verify class A cells and internal hardware used in manufacture.
I love that you give these batteries away to someone who will use them and appreciate them. I don’t need to see you cut them open there’s already so much waste in this world.
I agree. Do the testing and be honest about the results. Then give them to someone that can use them rather than destroying a battery for clicks and likes.
I don't agree. Cutting them open has really shown the types of build quality we are working with. Some of these "budget" batteries have had *very* poor build quality with sub-standard cells and we would have no idea without a break-down. A couple of reviewers cutting open their batteries could save 100's or even 1000's of us from buying some garbage. Donate the the cut-up battery and let someone have fun with it and put it back together.
I would say, don’t destroy a perfectly good battery, but that being said, I would be fascinated to see why this battery has such a compact profile with the same amp hours in such a small package. I would want to see how they did it, what corners they cut if any. As far as in general, what you do with your excess products I think you should give it away to your audience when you hit a particular milestones of your account or someone on your Patreon if you have one.
Totally agree. Don’t cut open. Donate. Thank you!
Cut it open, then plastic weld when you are done. Plastic welding is not hard, I have done it plenty of times.
Just wanted to drop in and say that your promo code saved me $530 on a SunGoldPower solar kit that was already on sale - thanks so much for all you do!
Love seeing the inside connections. Seems to have so many companys with terrible construction. It can make a difference long term
Cutting them open has really shown the types of build quality we are working with. Some of these "budget" batteries have had *very* poor build quality with sub-standard cells and we would have no idea without a break-down. A couple of reviewers cutting open their batteries could save 100's or even 1000's of us from buying some garbage. Donate the the cut-up battery and let someone have fun with it and put it back together.
I have the older "big" version of this battery and my buddy just got this new Mini. We both built DIY power stations with them and saved like $700 compared to an all in one unit. Longer warranties and the ability to replace or upgrade modular parts is great.
I just finished my 11th home built power box... bolted to the floor in my old GMC camper van between the front seats.
300 amp hr Chins, 2000 watt Renogy inverter, 40 amp Renogy MPPT, BT-2 blue tooth, Renogy battery meter, 400 watts of panels on top, USB and 12 volt outlets, proper fuses. My friend's 8 month old Ecoflow in his motorhome went dead one morning. They sent him another within 2 weeks. I have all kinds of spare inverters, MPPT units, parts galore if anything fails. My friend uses his EcoFlow to power up electronic for music gigs and really depends on battery power.
Hey Braden, since it's been a few more months...have you guys noticed any difference between the two batteries, as far as performance?
I bought one. Works great. My first project it’s a house battery for my Jeep wrangler to run my fridge.
I can see the point in cutting the top off to check the quality. I can also appreciate the fact that you donate them. Whatever you decide, will have no affect on the fact that I watch most all of your videos
I voted in the last poll to not chop the batteries up but in this case I support the decision to do a tear down because these LiTime minis are not the standard prismatic cells but pouch cells and I wanted to see the interior arrangement of pouches, BMS board etc. PS I have already purchased a mini and expect its arrival in 5 days. Thanks for asking your viewers.
How is it doing?
I do like the teardowns, they are great for seeing the actual build quality
You have the heart of a nomad. The community has a solid reputation of helping others in need. It reflects your heart and desire to help people with limited needs. When you are on BLM camping and obtain a way to harness energy from the sun, it is a life changer and makes life more manageable. You could make a follow up video with the people you have given them and see how the battery is holding up. It's too bad they cannot send you two for your research; one to open and the other to pay it forward.
Another great video, thank you. No need to chop the top off - if I really need to see that (and I don’t) Will Prose will likely do so at some point.
Cut it open, then plastic weld when you are done. Plastic welding is not hard, I have done it plenty of times.
As a side note, I really appreciate the reviews on this channel. You seem to tell it pretty much straight-up - if it's crap we know and if it's gold we know. Thanks!
I think chopping is important to keep the battery manufacturers honest and on their toes. I'd be glad to purchase one of your chopped up units to build an initial backup system for myself. Thanks for your great and informative videos!
Yes I want to see the tear down before I decide to buy. Especially on a new model / form factor. Thanks!
Love the “Jaguar ” fuse box reference. As a diy guy, I’m a shade tree mechanic as well. Without a doubt the British Leyland electoral systems are a nightmare for me in the old days . Don’t chop them up. Most don’t even know what they’re looking at. I purposely didn’t buy my lipo4’s with the heating element. Wasn’t worth the extra cost as I do not charge at night and not that many days is it below freezing in my local. I just flip a switch to start or stop the charging.
Over the years, I had 8 Triumph Spitfires and 6 of the GT-6 cars. Lucas sucked. When I needed a heater fan switch from the British Only wrecking yard, out of 10 cars, all would be missing the heater switch. Many other electrical parts were similar. I bought these cars cheap...2 things ALWAYS wrong....rear axle U-joints would fail and knock badly as you stopped and the tiny joke of a clutch disk would be worn out.
I'm thoroughly impressed with the compact size and current price of this product. Its weight is similar to typical 100amp LiFePO4 batteries, or a pound or two lighter in some instances. I own an RV and have been contemplating adding extra batteries, and this may be the perfect solution for me.
Really been looking to some of the smaller form factor/weight reviews. Power Queen has one as well. Would love to see tests on more of these. This weight and form factor really helps in the truck for camping.
Yes, I'd like to see the insides of the battery, especially when it's something different or unusual, like this mini format.
This is very educational and basically tells us to buy the bigger one so it dont over heat.
The teardown does make or break my purchasing decision. I don't buy unless I know whats under them. I bought these minis because I saw the build quality of the pouch cells and that put me at ease.
I think most people could still make use of these batteries if you used a chisel to pop the top off. I know some aren't so easy and require power tools for choppin
I love the analog clock with the DC power test fast forwarded. Gives it a mission impossible vibe!
I agree that seeing the build quality helps keep manufacturers honest but it won't stop me from watching your videos. I like that you are letting other people use the items you review, why have it go to waste.
These mini form factors are going to be very popular.
I would think if I was to recieve a battery with the top cut off, I could epoxy it back to greatness. I would say cutting to inspect bms and construction is worthy of effort.
Hey professor! I know I'm late to the party on giving advice for the disassembly of the batteries you review, but I think having a look inside of certain batteries could be useful. If it's a standard size, standard weight battery for it's ratings, it's likely to have standard prismatic Lifepo4 cells inside and probably one of the standard BMS units used in most of the drop in LiFePO4 batteries. It's only when something new or special comes in that opening it up to see how it works or what cells and BMS are being used that opening the top could give you and your viewers valuable information. You are always going to have the crowd that won't buy anything unless they see what exactly is being used inside the battery, and you could absolutely still do that on every battery without compromising the seal around the top of the battery. It will require extra work and a little extra investment on your part, but it wouldn't be difficult to do. To start, you need to stick the battery in a deep freezer for about 24 hours. This will make the silicone or glue used to seal the top of the battery very brittle. From there, you should be able to take something like a putty knife and a dead blow hammer, and break the seal around the top of the battery without damaging anything at all. Now you are inside the battery with no damage. To get it back together with a functional seal around the top again, you can refreeze the original sealant and scrape off what remains on the top and on the battery casing, which will allow you to cleanly reseal the battery to have it's original weather protection and water resistance. As a backup, you could always get a plastic welder and go around the top of the battery after resealing, and you will be guaranteed to have a water tight seal again. Honestly, the new sealant you choose to go around the top of the battery should be enough to make it waterproof again, but if you really want to make sure it's waterproof, the plastic welder would certainly finish the job and make it perfect.
You are so good at opening em up,,,makes me question if you are swaping out the innards and returning them for refund?🤔 haha
Cutting open is the only way to see the build quality. I’d say it’s just as important as the rest of the testing
DEAR PROFESSOR HOBO.... CONTINUE TO DONATE....THATS A GREAT WAY TO PAY IT FORWARD 👍❤️🙏🙏🙏
DONT CHOP💥 We have all seen dozens of these opened up and we know that they're built pretty good these days, we take your word for it, i will buy it!
There are plenty of people cutting these open on youtube. I am perfectly happy with your reviews. Give them to someone who could use them.
Thanks!
I think it would be great to give them away, but seeing the guts and quality of construction is very valuable.
Loving this thing, thank you! As an off-grid newbie I've only recently got up to speed on all things power stations and using batteries like these hasn't really come up during countless hours of browsing, which is criminal! Looks like the big name brands are making us spend more and think less.
Very very helpful to see the configuration inside. I've seen some reviews that point out problems that are not seen inside. Thank you for all your reviews they help very much. Winter coming soon and would love to purchase one of your batteries you've opened up would be a nice back up for my solar generator.
No need to chop because without Freeze protection I would not buy the product. I want to compliment you on getting higher amperage charging equipment. I suggested - you delivered ! ! Great Job. Cheers !
cut open with Hot soldering iron (solder Tip knife blade type work good for this) then glue back super glue or maybe PVC - depends on plastic type
I like seeing what is inside - build quality -
You have the best in depth product video hands down. Thank you professor Hobo!
Yes, I’d need to see the inside’s especially because the BMS kicks in pretty late and I’d want to know what’s causing the hot spot inside and why.
Yeh.. show us the guts of the battery !! Words = words... Right ??!
HoboTech rocks !! Thank you for the video !!
Leave it alone and donate it! Love the video 😊
Victron Smart Battery Sense is a great addition to a LiFePo battery with no low temp protection. It is a temperature sensor for your battery. It will also send your MPPT the terminal voltage for more accurate charging.
Thanks for sharing, great video! Lithium batteries are much lighter than traditional lead-acid batteries. But LiTime 100ah min battery is even lighter and smaller! This is my dream battery!
Hey Prof. Don't worry about Cutting open the battery. Others have done that, nothing special about doing that. And if you plan to donate it to someone else, no need for the waste.
I like seeing it chopped up to see the build quality. Maybe if you can find another person to link to who chops it then leave it whole, but if you can't then show the innards.
Cutting open is important as I strip them for the cells and need to see type and if they are welded or bolted
I almost got 2 of these, but managed to find a 230 ah that took up a minimally smaller space and a higher capacity. With that being said, a pre-existing compartment, these would be the way to go for sure! Great video!
I sure appreciate the videos and IMHO there's information enough throughout all the tests.
I don't really care for how they look inside.
Yes!!!! Thank you for the intro fx.
The batteries that you open are still good for diy projects like pelican or Gerry can ammo can builds I'd like them
please use/get a thermal camera, the temp gun can easily overlook really hot spots
Can you ask the companies for a cut away photo for including in the videos? Then you can comment on components but still retain a good battery to give away.
That sounds like an awesome idea!
I have a concern that the "smaller" case sized units have packet cells that I hear are not as robust as the prismatic cells.
Seems the battery case and internal structure keeps the pouch cells compressed for longevity
@@wallacegrommet9343 The pouch/packet cells do not have gas relief valves. Keeping them compressed adds to their problem.
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@hobotech i really think you should give them to people that really need them you say you have so many you don't know what to do with them. I just found your channel i was searching for a way to use power tool batteries for some how storing energy im so confused on what i need though you're channel has been amazing i simply thought you could just batteries and panels not knowing about charge controller and everything else included. I didn't realize how much everything is it has blown my mind i cannot afford all these things tho i desperately need them to make my camper safe for my family. And have enough power to cook and shower and cool these insane temps in the summer here in Louisiana. Thank you for all the knowledge and yeah instead of wasting them there are families struggling times are hard seriously. Thanks again have a wonderful evening.
the only reason i might buy a 12v 50ah battery it is to expand my bluetti EB3A whour capacity. .But when i buy the bluetti AC200L imight buy the 12v 100ah with BMS intigrated for recharge purposes. with my small solar system maximum 400 watts panels. another good review hobotech most appreciated from up north Canada
Please donate the batteries. People like me and my family really need them to survive. Thank you for the awesome information
No chop. Make a friend who could make good use of it. Thanks for sharing
Great video as always Professor!
These would be a great battery for replacing the Ryobi Riding lawn mower Lead Acid batteries (4 needed). I did it with the larger REDODO 100AH batteries but it was a really tight fit. (I would note these are slightly taller than the old 100ah design)
How they working for you? I've been consider just changing mine with a 48v server rack battery. So I don't have to worry about balancing the 4 independent batteries.
great review. I would you to pass the battery on to someone that can use one or need one. even a giveaway on you tube . There is others that rip them apart. great point. insulate the battery . so simple. can add a thermal switch and small 12V heater to insulated battery and can use in extreme cold. keep up the good work.
battery charging and discharging time testing is only accurate if the battery is fully back to room temperature after each test. The exterior case may show a slightly elevated temperature, however the internal temperatures on the cells will be significantly higher. Unless the battery has external thermocouple ports to read these temps, letting it sit for 5 min does next to nothing. It would need to sit for several hours for accurate time testing.
i like the chopped top videos, It lets one know how well the battery might last long term. i like to know the quality of whats in there.
Just bought one! The website displayed a $20 discount, but I was thrilled to find that using the HOBOTECH code actually gave me a $25 discount.
I would love to have it a battery HOBOTECH..If I had the chance..I would at min pay for shipping...Much love for all the great videos Tech!!
FYI, unless you’ve heard Li Time pronounce their name this way, I do believe this pronunciation is actually incorrect. Li (pronounced Lee) is the pinying spelling of the Chinese word 力 which means force. I’m an expat living in Taiwan. Just thought I’d offer that up. Love the channel. Learning a ton from these videos.
Guess you didn't read the description or see my pinned comment ...
@@HOBOTECH OMG! Ok I'm freaking embarrassed. I was too busy taking notes and trying to keep up with you. I'll go remove my foot from my mouth now. Carry on...LOL!
You don't need to worry about chopping the top off. I like the torcher testing. If I have a request, could you do vibration testing? I use these batteries in a camper and a boat as a trolling motor. There is a lot of vibration, and I worry about the BMS being shaken to death.
These are designed for off road use and are as vibration resistant as an AGM.
Thank you very much great video and great comparison with the full-size battery!
Great review once again. Best on the Tube!
I bought this battery and the Li Time box it goes in. Waiting on the box and have 2 , 100 watt solar panels for it with controller .
I like the old clock. Nice touch!
There are enough batteries chopped up. If you want to see one, go back in the play list. You will find them. Give them away to your watchers. By the way, when are you going to be in Quartzsite? I could use a couple batteries, from LiTime. I love them. I haven’t had a problem with ours, and they get a beating. I built power boxes with them and I need to have a few more power boxes.
Thanks for another informative video. Chopping of the battery is not necessary. Five year warranty either way.
There have been differences in build construction from brand and even different models within the same brand in all these cheaper Lithium battery brands. Some people who are not technical don't care and will get burned on some purchases but I need to know whats inside. I think you can open most of these battery lids with a heat gun and the right pry tools and then reseal the top when your done.
I'm all about the Hobotech! 💪
There is a video of them tsking one apart somewhere i ran across. Wish i had the link
Well if you put it back together after you chop the top off I need two of them
👍 I remember way back then submarine surplus batteries were cheap. You buy the lot next door for your battery backups.... lol
I need to see the build quality/ cells inside to make.a purchasing decision.
I would say don’t cut into it or any of them. Much better to pass them on to those that are in need. 👍
Cut it open, then plastic weld when you are done. Plastic welding is not hard, I have done it plenty of times.
Tom I am a big believer in helping others don’t destroy the batteries is my vote.
Off the subject for today ….but why would the Ecoflow wave 2 ac cord keep popping it’s own …part of the cord …circuit breaker . Worked today new the first time but now will not stay in when plugged into the wall , even when I unplug it from the Eco flow wave 2 , just the cord plugged int the wall it still trips the circuit breaker on the plug of the cord . Thanks
I don't plan on doing any boondocking, just want to run some lights and the ice box when driving. What size battery do I need? Rv has a residential 20 cu/ft ice box. Great video.
Don't worry about cutting the top off. I trust the tests.
Give them away! Big plus to your channel!
yes take that top off and let's see what is made of and how they are constructed
Thank you for your review. I think it's great that you share the batteries with people who need them. I think the battery should stay intact so someone can benefit from it. As always, I like the information you share.
What would happen if I took 6 of these and put it in series? I need it for a 72v application and I'll love this style of battery
No, do not cut them open. It’s a waste for the environment. Most viewers wouldn’t care once they see the insides once or twice. Your format is perfect as it is. And it’s cool that you donate. Nice way to pay it forward.
I go to your website because you do complete testing. What are the cells? What changes gave the ability to go smaller? Pouches? What brand? Connections?
Some bright person could really sell a well designed temperature based 12v 150 amp relay that is packaged as an 'inline' device which can simply be attached between any battery and the charging source. This general purpose relay is not difficult in concept, but sourcing the components and putting them into a robust dustproof and water resistant package would take a little work.
Great video as always. No need to cut it open to find out how it's made. There are several people out there who already do it
It is nice to know about quality of components, as well as assembly, but maybe open up one of each battery brand.
Please review power needs for vehicle based, mostly 12v/120 appliances vs household appliances. Also, how to build install a portable system for vehicle use that can disconnect from vehicle grounding and then hook-up to home based panels and grounding. Thanks
I like your testing process, as it provides us real world info we need to know before buying. I say, no need to do a ‘tear down’. It is nice to know but think most people just want to know price/performance.
My opinion; refrain from doing a tear down and donate excess equipment. Happy end users are the best for vendor’s sales.
I Agee, do not destroy and donate it. About to buy a few myself with your code. Thanks again for the product review.
The reccomended charge Amp is 20A. Can I charge at 50A frequently. Will 50A also damage the battery? 20A to charge for 5hours is just too slow for me.
It has 100A BMS which means you can charge at 100A...
Super review! Thank you.
I don't need you to tear it apart. I was wondering, could you somehow water cool it to take some of that heat away? Maybe submerge it to just below the top? Or set it against a glass fish tank? Just to get th a t heat away.
I would say no to chopping up good batteries just to look inside. Now if the battery suddenly goes on a rampage then it should be cut open to see what we might expect to happen to our batteries. I am wondering though about using two of these mini's in series for extended service on a four wheeled handicapped scooter for my wife. I have just the right amount of space to replace the two 12V X 35A SLA batteries that are on the scooter, but like your poll I have gotten both pros and cons feedback on using LiFePO4 vs lead/acid batteries. Any thoughts or suggestions ???