I have the sense we are in the presence of a great being whose work will profoundly affect both philosophy and spirituality for coming generations. That we have such conversations so readily available is really amazing. The two conversations with Iain hosted by Adhisthana are among the very best I've watched. Thank you so much.
Such an evocative and daring space to fall and be coerced into, with a concurrent measure of wisdom and wonder, embracing such insightful and raw analogies that most conversations in the post modern culture are deemed as not worth having. This has been a torrent of beautifully presented digestible paradoxes and is bloated with a sensitivity that is a rare commodity. Thank you. Love and peace to all. X 🙏
Super impressed, you dared not only going down this path but also mastered this tricky territory with brilliance, broadest wisdom and a big heart. Thank you so much.
If there’s a huge explosion in space and nothing to slow the expanding matter, when is the explosion ‘over?’ In this way, how are we not the Big Bang? :)
My favorite teachings are not those I always agree with but those that make me think. I always appreciate Lian exceptionally and tend to agree with him 100 percent In the case of this video not only I agree but I'm thinking and discovering Thank you thank you thank you
If we were ever able to put into words the mystery of existence, then we’d have no use for it anymore. Mystery and surprise are what we desire, and the story that situation generates. Nihilists have it “all figured out,” and I feel sorry for them I wish they’d stop ruining things, and it’s our job to tell a better story. The hesitance at having a chapter about the sacred is evidence of our cultural nihilism. We must be the change. Just start feeling every sensation before you label it as an emotion. Feel everything. You’ll be surprised how enamored you become with life. It’s the receptivity Eckhart is talking about. Feel everything, but don’t label. Sure, physical pain might overcome you, but everything else you can handle… they’re just buzzes in your body. And the time spent focusing on sensation and not thinking with words - that’s just as valuable. And it means you never chastise yourself for feeling anything. And then you’ll likely act your best, your most calm, your most generous and wise, because you’ll not be spooling in thought and neuroses.
Wonderful discussion of Panentheism and what makes it different to, and irreconcilable with, pantheism. The Panentheist principle is simply expressed: God is both "here" (immanent) and "more than here" (transcendent). ALL the world is contained in God, God contains the world, is present all through the world, and at the same time also embraces or surrounds the world. That's Pan EN theism.
I do not agree that evil has some kind of substantial reality. Evil, it seems to me, is the absence of good in a certain context. It is impossible to will evil qua evil. We always will it under the aspect of the good. As Milton's Satan says: evil be thou my good. If one wills destruction, for example, it is always because one thinks that things are better if x or y are destroyed, even if that is the whole cosmos.
Essence of all Everything and nothing at the same time By way of Paradox Meister … Transcending the tension of opposites. Depends on state of consciousness
What you mentioned is the true religion. Islam is maybe the most clear in his theology, but all the religion at their pinnacle are explaining the same thing. And each religion will have followers that don’t understand that pinnacle and their are indeed misguided by idolatry
We are truly blessed to have such people in our world.
my very being rejoices and calms when individuals truly listen to one another respectfully🎉🎉Thank you for this conversation
I have the sense we are in the presence of a great being whose work will profoundly affect both philosophy and spirituality for coming generations. That we have such conversations so readily available is really amazing. The two conversations with Iain hosted by Adhisthana are among the very best I've watched. Thank you so much.
Such an evocative and daring space to fall and be coerced into, with a concurrent measure of wisdom and wonder, embracing such insightful and raw analogies that most conversations in the post modern culture are deemed as not worth having. This has been a torrent of beautifully presented digestible paradoxes and is bloated with a sensitivity that is a rare commodity. Thank you. Love and peace to all. X 🙏
Super impressed, you dared not only going down this path but also mastered this tricky territory with brilliance, broadest wisdom and a big heart. Thank you so much.
Another discovery of learning with an openness of engagement of listening.
Thank you both.
Thank you for offering us this wisdom!
This conversation is a supreme gift to us all. Thank you!
I very, very much look forward to watching this!
Wonderful, I feel blessed.
Panentheism yes. ❤️🔥🙏🏻 Love the dipole stuff. It’s a definite key to understanding. Thank you so much. 🥰 Love this.
If there’s a huge explosion in space and nothing to slow the expanding matter, when is the explosion ‘over?’
In this way, how are we not the Big Bang? :)
Gravity may well turn out to be a dipolar electrical force.
Not loud enough, soundwise. Wonderful people and content.
My favorite teachings are not those I always agree with but those that make me think.
I always appreciate Lian exceptionally and tend to agree with him 100 percent
In the case of this video not only I agree but I'm thinking and discovering
Thank you thank you thank you
Marvelous!
Tha colud of unknowing .. I read this slim book which had a lasting erffect.
Thankyou. I am a better person for having watched this, and I'll be back.
The cloud of unknowing
I hope Iain might have his work made into an audiobook at some point. As the extracts from his book and the discussion were enthralling.
💜Elvis - the wonder of you... A love song for ALL 🌻🐦😊
It’s all so intellectually , I’m not feeling a knowing from the heart , to me it’s all coming across as so wordy and dry , with out feelings🌅🙏🏼
If we were ever able to put into words the mystery of existence, then we’d have no use for it anymore. Mystery and surprise are what we desire, and the story that situation generates. Nihilists have it “all figured out,” and I feel sorry for them I wish they’d stop ruining things, and it’s our job to tell a better story. The hesitance at having a chapter about the sacred is evidence of our cultural nihilism. We must be the change. Just start feeling every sensation before you label it as an emotion. Feel everything. You’ll be surprised how enamored you become with life. It’s the receptivity Eckhart is talking about. Feel everything, but don’t label. Sure, physical pain might overcome you, but everything else you can handle… they’re just buzzes in your body. And the time spent focusing on sensation and not thinking with words - that’s just as valuable. And it means you never chastise yourself for feeling anything. And then you’ll likely act your best, your most calm, your most generous and wise, because you’ll not be spooling in thought and neuroses.
Wonderful discussion of Panentheism and what makes it different to, and irreconcilable with, pantheism.
The Panentheist principle is simply expressed:
God is both "here" (immanent) and "more than here" (transcendent). ALL the world is contained in God, God contains the world, is present all through the world, and at the same time also embraces or surrounds the world.
That's Pan EN theism.
Strong socks
I do not agree that evil has some kind of substantial reality. Evil, it seems to me, is the absence of good in a certain context. It is impossible to will evil qua evil. We always will it under the aspect of the good. As Milton's Satan says: evil be thou my good. If one wills destruction, for example, it is always because one thinks that things are better if x or y are destroyed, even if that is the whole cosmos.
Made me think of the resistance involved in Jacob wrestling with God's angel all night that would take him to higher ground.
Essence of all
Everything and nothing at the same time
By way of Paradox
Meister …
Transcending the tension of opposites.
Depends on state of consciousness
I’d become a Mcgilchristian if I didn’t know he would chastise me for missing the point.
Divine shouldn't be a dirty word.
Beyond the intellect.
David Hawkins Power vs Force.
Paul Levy
Robert Falconer
Are we not supposed to be
Cadres of Sacred Red-Sac 🤔🙏
What you mentioned is the true religion. Islam is maybe the most clear in his theology, but all the religion at their pinnacle are explaining the same thing. And each religion will have followers that don’t understand that pinnacle and their are indeed misguided by idolatry
By a series of negation
Princess of Bucking ham
Can an atheist have a sense of the sacred?
Yes. I think as sacred all things essential for life to exist e.g. clean water, air/oxygen, fertile soil.
not sure but one can definitely have a sense of awe and wonder
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