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@@pintswithaquinas If I may ask another question, how come PWA episodes aren't being uploaded to RUclips anymore? I know they didn't get many views, but it was the best way to share specific episodes with non-Catholic friends.
Seethi C I wanted this channel to be just for videos and not litter it with podcasts also. I see your point about sharing it with friends ... hmm. This could help: pintswithaquinas.libsyn.com
Part of that is because he did not criticize Fr. Martin directly or personally. He discussed why certain theologies being taught may be wrong. He did it from a place of love.
@@palmina77italiana Who cares about that movie? Btw, they said the same about Episode III back in the day, so much was cut that it wasn't much longer than the average SW movie.
@@palmina77italiana They're included in the novelization and that's one reason why it's better than the movies. The scenes were very important for the plot and it's a shame they deleted them. They should have deleted some Utapau and Kashyyyk scenes instead, because they didn't really advance the plot.
Thank you so much Matt! You brought me to tears because I believed the lie that I have nothing to offer on my RUclips Channel. I could relate so much!!! Thank you I was feeling so alone in the same lie asking God why have you asked me to do this ministry. What you said spoke to my heart and I need to remember that prayer you prayed!. Thank you and God bless you
A Catholic Mom's Life oh you’re beautiful, thanks for being vulnerable. In a world where everyone wants likes and shares, let’s speak the truth even when it’s NOT controversial :) bless you, sister. The Father will use both you and me, blunt instruments though we are.
Girl! Your channel has helped me out soooo much! I need to have good, solid Catholic SAHM's that I can go to on RUclips. You've led me to other great mama's. Please don't stop doing your channel!
"Invite the Lord into your shame", is the pearl of wisdom I take with myself from this all-too-short 3-hours chat with Father Mike to my prayers. Thank you.
Father Schmitz's brain must have like 11-gears. He is like a young race-car driver figuring out the most efficient shifting. You can see in his many pauses, the gears still spinning, then the thought comes, and he shifts from first to seventh gear. He's a Ferrari. Every gear has an impressive sound when it digs in. Those students in Minnesota are so lucky to have him as "Dad". Great show. I stayed up too late trying to watch to the end.
Congrat😊s. This is the most inventive assessment I've heard of how Fr. Mike's brain works and how a spectator can just about see him shifting gears from first to seventh gear.🤔 I'm just a little concerned, Matt is just a shade too anxious to place his own ego on the same shelf as Father Mike's IQ.🤔
Thank you Fr. Mike, for showing us how beautiful it is to follow God into the vocation He made for you and thank you, Matt, for such a respectful, beneficial, and Catholic interview. God is Great!
I know many people want a shorter or edited interview, however I love the length, your guests have so much to share, I honestly don't know what you could cut since there is information that could help everyone. If somebody wants a specific topic or shorter videos they can check ascension present, Fr Mike Schmitz podcasts or other short catholic video. My wife and I love your channel and the interviews because they are different and we get to learn so much. I honestly wouldn't like to shorten the interviews because this is what makes your interviews different and in my opinion better. Your interviews are authentic, different and truthful. In Christ
I agree. As much as I ENJOY watching this video with Matt and Fr. Schmidt but I think it’s a bit long. Although the content is great but people may want to watch other videos too and/or they may have other things to do but they also enjoy watching these videos. God bless them both. 😇
Great conversation! I’m getting tired of the militance of some Catholic RUclipsrs. I’ve unsubscribed from a couple. While I understand the anger within our church, more voices like Fr Schmitz’s are refreshing.
I absolutely agree. I was getting more and more angry and negative watching some of the very militant individuals who have a public apostolate. We 100% need more thoughtful, straight forward yet kind voices like Fr. Mike's!
My first thought was "let him speak" but then I realized how intelligent and well versed you are. So I really enjoyed this video because instead of a prequestioned interview, this was a genuine conversation between two really wise men.
I've really loved this conversation. It was just real, truthful and meaningful as well. Father Mike Schmitz is just an amazing priest. I really wish I met him in person one day. Thank you very much Matt Fradd for having amazing people on the show. God bless you!
Matt, I’m only coming across this episode many “Pints” later. You’ve come a long way since this episode on trying not to interrupt the guest. As you’d say “Praise the Lord!” The ADHD Matt deserves praise because it’s clearly a struggle. Way to go, Matt! Thank you for the work ❤️
I was in my 70’s before I realized that she had probably been deeply wounded during her childhood. That explained why she was a cold person. It took me years to forgive her. Once I did that, I experienced the Peace that passes all understanding.
Matt, I can so relate to feeling like a fraud. I spent nearly 40 years during my career waiting for someone to discover I am a fraud, that I don't know what I'm doing at work. I spent all those years in fear for nothing. Near the end my career I was very fortunate to have a new boss was not shy about expressing how good I truly was at my job. It was embarrassing when he said it to others. That is something I had never had before in my career. My boss being so honest with me made me realize that the actual fraudulent thing was to not accept how good I truly was at my work. Once I accepted with humility that God gave me the grace of being good at my job, I was freed from this feeling of being a fraud. So I totally get your self-doubt!
What a wonderful session with Fr Mike-you have articulated my greatest fear. I didn't know it was the source of my anxiety. I have been a catechist for 20 years and I was always afraid the children, adults or parish priest would find me to be a fraud. "Like I have anything to offer here". I keep trying to be smart enough, or holy enough...thinking I am a fraud. That prayer that Matt said hit me right between the eyes. It is a lie-I am capable of bringing something to the table. Because God has sent me to the table-called me to this ministry. God has kept the door open for me to this ministry. Thank you so much for this insightful conversation. May God continue to bless you and your family.
Whaaaat! My two favorite catholic speakers talking for 3 hours... YES PLEASE! This was awesome, guys! You both inspire me. :) p.s. Fr. Mike an introvert? No way!
The filial energy in that room... What a good video. Thanks Matt and Father Mike! As a spiritual child it warms the heart to see two great examples of what it means to be mature in the faith.
As a dancer for more than 26 years, the only person I was measuring my progress with was myself because my body is not exactly the ideal dancer's body so to measure myself against someone else was not helpful. I am glad to have had that kind of attitude presented to me by my teacher. He helped me be the best dancer I could be then. And can be again. :-) Against my own previous level. :-)
Matt, I mean this with love & respect, but there were moments in which I feel like you cut off Fr. Mike when he was mid-thought/sentence. I understand you were probably very excited to have him on (I would be too). But I think that if you work on letting the guests finish their thoughts, it would really elevate the quality of your show. Not to say that it isn’t good quality, but I see so much potential in you still. I probably noticed this because this is something **I** struggle with. Nonetheless, I really enjoy your show. In fact, you’ve been a big resource for me in my recent conversion. I came back to the Catholic faith in October of 2019, and I will be getting confirmed at the end of March in 2020. Keep up the great work! Update (March 2020): my confirmation has been pushed back because of the pandemic. However, I‘ve chosen St. Thomas Aquinas as my confirmation saint! 😎
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. (And yes, I also struggle not to do this.) And even if it is more a conversation than an interview - he's your guest. Let him finish his sentences.
Wow! What an incredible interview/show!!! I regret that I could only give one thumb up. I'd like to give it 10! As a father of 3 young children it was very spiritually edifying! Matt I'm always so impressed with how you address and approach issues within the Church such as wayward clergy and the current spirit. I tend to be more of the Voris and Dr. Marshall type, but in hearing your perspective it's great to take in another viewpoint that is perhaps more balanced. Initially I thought your viewpoint was to downplay the issues within the Church, but I now understand after this show that it is not the case! Fr. Schmitz is such an amazing blessing to the Church. Thank God for him! Matt thank you for all you do for souls and the Church! I will be definitely be watching your channel more closely going forward.
Father, what about starting an exercise app or channel that is focused on exercise, fitness, and prayer 😊! If it can be created to support the efforts of people of different levels of exercise that would be even cooler. It could be great to have guest trainer/teachers and to incorporate prayer to it since youre pretty busy. Would be so cool 😎
1 hour 30mins in... so true. I was reflecting on this today and I feel like the chaos inside the Catholic Church is having a huge effect on my faith personally... at times it feels like we are orphans.
ela, I try 'thinking' as well as having "faith" and I try to keep their inseparability and qualitative equality as, in uncertainty, belief. Mary's cousin, Elizabeth, is reported at RSV Luke 1:45 as: "Blessed is she who believed ... ". Best, Oliver Clark, age 75, anglo-catholic accredited catechist of roman catholic religion in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Brisbane Australia.
When I aspired for the monastic life when I was in my late twenties (before I studied medicine) the Liturgy of the Hours was the main attraction. Happily, the Lord knew this and, after I followed my vocation into medicine, He made it available to me through the parish I serve as a Proclaimer. His Psalms always seemed to be in sync with my daily rhythms, by His Grace, and even during spiritual dryness He speaks in the psalms and canticles to keep me going through the challenges of the day. :-)
God bless you both. Matt realize the platform you have my friend. Keep speaking the truth. God wants to make you a saint. I can see you have a kind heart which is rare is this world don't ever lose that.
Matt, as I watch your interviews and see more and more how the sincerity of your faith plays out in your life, in your family, and in your community, I am so deeply touched. It creates a whole new realm of possibilities for my own life. And how very endearing that you speak candidly about your struggles with imposter syndrome. You are indeed the real deal. Thank you.
I love the talk about fasting. I do extended intermittent fasting (a much more aggressive form of the intermittent fasting). I began it for weight loss and the health benefits. My routine (doctor approved because it is very aggressive) is a 1-2 day fast drinking only water or coffee, then eat a good clean meal, followed by a 3 day fast and a meal, 4 day fast and meal, then 5 day fast and a meal. If I still feel fine I do another 5 day fast, then one meal a day (OMAD) for a few weeks. Then I start again from the beginning. I lost 30 lbs the first month, 50 lbs in 3 months. Currently I have lost over 100 lbs and have 130 more to get to my goal weight of 150 lbs.
@@Peony25001 thank you, I have a long way to go still. When my brother passed I fell into the snare of emotional eating; it really pushed my progress back quite a bit. But I am back on the wagon, so to speak. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for me. OHM & OHF, pray for me. St. Elizabeth of the Trinity, pray for me. St. Jude, pray for me. 🙏🏼✝️🤎
“Our following the Lord influences how we view….” Yes! God’s influence changes our view of ourselves and others. We become less bitter, more kind, more generous…we become neighbors.
I started to watch this video and they're talking about EXODUS 90. Today at work 2 men came to eat at the restaurant where I work at and sit at the counter In Lakeview Chicago They did a prayer before eating. Their shirts Said; Live Different Asked about it. And sure indeed They were from EXODUS . 🔥✝️
Wow, that was terrific. I am a Lutheran woman who by watching other faith based videos discovered Father Mike. One can certainly be drawn to him at first by his personality, charm and current faith topics, but this interview helped me see that there is more to Father Mike than that. I appreciate the incite to him and a better understanding of the Catholic Faith.
I believe that in all families, there are both good and bad individuals. My Catholic faith is not defined by any particular priest but by my commitment to following Jesus and I am his follower.
That was a great show. Enjoyed hearing the wonderful conversation and advice from you both. Also great was what Father Mike Schmitz's mom said to him, "Don't forget who the star is." Thank, you and God bless.
I can totally relate to Fr. Mike at the beginning here. I started running for the first time in years and fasting most days of the week. It has been very interesting and fulfilling to deny myself and make myself uncomfortable sometimes. I think it has brought me closer with Christ for sure! not to mention the health benefits of course. I believe it was the Holy Spirit that convinced me to start this out of no where and I am so grateful for where it has brought me!
I love you priests, and you give me joy wherever I see you. When there is no sign by the way you choose to dress I think joy is been removed. It is humble and it has power like the purest light.
I was traveling with a heavy, guilty heart, and it gave me a surge of hope when I saw a priest in an airport. I asked him to pray with me and he asked if I wanted to make my confession. It was a beautifully healing experience that never would have happened if he hadn't been in his black clothes and Roman collar. I was and am so very grateful for our priests.
Question worth pondering is if worrying about the temporal divisions of people calling out others for their bad theology and leadership is as warranted as worrying about the eternal divisions potentially caused by leaders' bad theology and morals. Thanks for the show, Pints with Aquinas and for having Fr Schmitz on, you're good men.
What a great interview. Yes it was long but I was sewing as I was listening to it and the time few by and I got so much out of it. I have a notebook by my sewing machine that I write down stuff I want to remember about what I am making but now it is also a notebook with some thoughtful snippets of knowledge from this interview. Thank you so much.
I have to say I downloaded Hallow and wow! I feel it’s a must. No way you can ever say your too busy… in the car or while you fall asleep. It’s awesome ❤
I have borderline personality disorder and use dbt all the time, it was really cool to hear Fr. Mike mention DBT :) helpful for everyone! We all go through tough times and situations in life. The negative self talk is real!
You gentlemen are talking about fitness and doing less than others. I am soon going into a wheelchair because I am such a fall risk but if a neurodegenerative disease which will end my life, hopefully not for a few years. The physical activities I enjoyed are over BUT now I have something difficult to offer back to God. And I believe I have become, and continue to become, a more empathetic person.
I did develop at a very young age the habit of praying for salvation of souls etc, seeing my mother doing it. The habit of it stays with me till today. I have always been praying that all be saved.
Mary Pinakat the salvation of souls for the love and sake of God is one of if not the highest form of love, especially when it is at the cost of your own self
@@jackharwood3868 Yeah, that's what Jesus did and set an example for all to follow, even though our own prayers and sacrifices gain any power to save in and through Jesus's sacrifice of himself. For me the greatest value I find in praying for ALL people to be saved is that it moves me to look with compassion towards every sinner however bad. It prompts me to leave the judgement for God and him alone. I believe that as a Christian I owe it to Jesus to hold such a stand.
I praise God for both of you! He is working through you both to touch the lives of so many people. Thank you for allowing Him to work through you and saying yes to His Will!
I was convinced, to care for the dying.. because, spending time with my parents, and grandparents.. watching the doctors and nurses, caring for them.. and, in zero disrespect, I felt.. that I could do that better, and now.. I am so very glad I let a "superficial" reason, tip the choice..
So many AMAZING things to comment on in this interview. One comment I decided to make while still watching -- about Bishop Robert Barron. 1.) I am an adult convert to Catholicism. Once I turned to 'internet research' on the religion, Bishop Barron was one of my key introductions to the faith. 2.) One of my key struggles from childhood up was disbelief in / resistance to the idea of an eternal hell. 3.) Bishop (then Father) Barron gave me PERMISSION to keep that window open in my mind, which resolved that problem for me. 4.) Now more fully grown (well, still growing) in the Catholic faith, I can see and appreciate the arguments that *not* all men WILL be saved (and I even think there's something supremely loving about this, in God's respect for our free will, and also in the way that acknowledging this possibility helps us sufficiently come to grips with the true risk we ourselves face, to take the crucial actions which are necessary for our ultimate good, and that of others)... and at the same time I still think I _needed that window open at the beginning, to let myself relax and keep moving forward._ Or if I didn't objectively 'need' it, it certainly seems as if I needed it. For this reason, I will always be thankful to Bishop Barron, and I will not harangue the man on the topic. I believe he is performing a key 'porter' role, manning a gate through which (God willing) converts like myself are granted entrance to the eternal life of Christ. And once inside, I believe there are _other_ faithful children of God, performing _other_ roles (including enriching us, as we grow, with a deeper dive into the theology and lived practice of Christ's Church)... but as Matt said earlier in this video: different members of the family can be moving in different ways that are nonetheless valid, and performing an important role, even if we don't personally understand it because it's not the role we need someone to play for us right now. PS: IMPORTANT! I *don't* think you gentlemen made a mistake in talking about this, though. Again, as Matt said (and I believe the same): there are roles that different people are playing right now that are important, even if I'm not playing the exact same one. And I actually value you discussing this in a way that didn't necessarily let the Bishop's articulation of the idea off the hook. And then you deal with the Fr. Martin thing really well, too. Kudos, you two.
I posted this on Brian Holdsworth's page the other day regarding hell, but it works here too: BTS 4 days ago (edited) @Brian Holdsworth Brian what I am saying is that I don't think there is anything a human can do that deserves eternal hellfire. ETERNAL. Trillions of years, then square that number. And if it is outside of time, then it's even worse than that. And does a casual "mortal" sinner (let's say, someone guilty of occasional, or even regular, lust) get the same punishment as a serial killer? Ultimately your approach sounds like binary thinking to me. Those are the only choices? A or B? What if a person is holy some of the time and selfish some of the time? What percentage breakdown gets one into heaven? What if a person lives a faithful life and then falters at the end, say in the last year? If it is truly a tally that occurs, do you realize that the line separating two basically good people sends one to hell and one to heaven because of possibly one further sin? Is god a cosmic bean counter? Sheesh, I hope not. Humans ARE selfish, all the time, all of us! We fight against it daily, of course. All of us. It is NOT a winnable battle in the long run. But we can do our best some of the time. Who does his best ALL the time? No one. I encourage to you read up on the history of the development of "hell" and you'll see that Jesus' concept of hell is not the same thing as the fiery abode of the devil. Heck, even the devil in the OT is not the same as the devil in the NT. Open your mind. Start reading both/many sides of the debate. That's what I do. I read the BEST of both sides to see what folks are saying. Try, for example, Sean Carrol's mindscape podcast episode about how hell was essentially "created": www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2019/05/27/episode-48-marq-de-villiers-on-hell-and-damnation/ As a catholic of some flavor (not sure where I am right now), I find hell really is an ineffectual concept. One cannot be morally good with constant threat of damnation hanging over one's shoulder, because the good acts are compelled, rather than done freely. I would argue a good deed done by a non-believer counts for more than a deed done under threat of hell. A believer can never have a pure motive if hell is in the equation. The good deed is not done freely.
@@TheRealShrike Lots to respond to there, and I have to run to work. But short answers for now, to maybe prompt you to continue following your own advice ("Open your mind... read up..."): I'm an adult convert to Catholicism who objected to 'hell' theology since young childhood, so I don't have any more reading on it to do. I reckon I'm substantially familiar with the range of positions, since I used to hold them. For me, 'opening my mind' ultimately has meant _coming to believe in hell._ Suggested resources: re: your last paragraph, CS Lewis refutes the point you raised (which is a reasonable enough question many of us explore as we develop our theological understanding) in an essay you can find by googling "CS Lewis mercenary desires". Other stuff, short answer: no, God is not a bean counter. Yes, in the end it is binary, because "Reconciled with God" and "Not-reconciled with God" really are the only two options in the end; nothing falls outside of those two categories. Anything not in one is, by definition, in the other. No, no number of mere 'good deeds' can get someone into heaven (we're all fallen since Adam and Eve): it is only accepting the free gift of Christ who reconciled us to Himself, which can reconcile us to the Heaven which our first parents lost. And it's accepting that free gift, _and persevering to the end_ (to the personal death of the individual) in that state of acceptance of the reconciliation God offers us, which is 'salvation'. The state we're in when we enter eternity, is the state we'll remain in for eternity. All that 'time' stuff in between is just for working out that state we'll be in at the very moment of death, and yes we can waffle back and forth on it for years (and our actions during those years CAN have consequences in eternity on our _degree_ of glory: we can make ourselves either greater saints, or worse lost souls), but it is our state at the crossover into death that decides the binary of Reconciled/Unreconciled. Now, as a requisite _part_ of being reconciled to Christ, we are called to participate in good works, joined to God's merciful and outpouring love, during the years available to us. Fruitful ground for longer conversation in here. Note: Catholics are permitted to believe that Christ can reconcile people to himself through ways unknown to us, if through no fault of their own they are not given the opportunity to be joined to Christ's visible body (the Church) on earth. So, humans living before Christ; humans living after Christ but in remote areas where Christ is not preached; people whose only experience of Christians is profound abuse (e.g. a child raped by the adult 'Christians' in his or her life, who goes on to never meet the actual Christ through actual Christians). But it's not bean counting. God knows the souls and character of each human person He's creating, and He gives them the free will (whether during the bulk of their life, or in the last split-second before death in a personal, direct revelation: it is not for us to know the details of the way God reveals Himself to each individual, so there's legitimate room for speculation within existing theological bounds, here), to _choose_ whether to be reconciled to Him or not. And then God respects our choice. Case in point, the angels. Some of them chose unity with God, and some of them chose disunity with God. And He respects their choice and allows them to 'be', forever, who they've chosen to be. Maybe one day God will create a race of creatures who ARE destined for eternal changeability, back and forth, etc, never eternally in hell or heaven, but constantly reincarnated or bouncing between states as they make their choices -- but He has specifically revealed to us that this is neither the destiny of angelic beings nor of human beings. We are both a type of created being whose will becomes 'fixed' after free will choices are made (for the angels, this is believed to have taken place virtually immediately after their creation: for humans, we typically have a lifetime to work through our choice before we make it, and can waffle for a while -- but eventually are fixed, and that point is called 'death'). The question is not: "Can I work myself into a lather of distress and outrage over some imaginary individual beyond myself, who I imagine may _not_ receive all the inputs they need to make an informed decision for/against unity with God?" It is for us to ask ourselves, and only ourselves, "Has God given ME the inputs necessary to make an informed decision for/against unity with God? Does my own conscience, properly formed, convict me against murder, lust, hatred of my brother, etc? Do I have to admit that deep down, I _do_ know the difference, from moment to moment, between a choice that is closer to goodness and a choice that is further from goodness? And that I am accountable for doing my genuine _best_ to move closer to what I sincerely believe is goodness?" God does know the pressures upon us, and also promised (and He cannot lie) that He doesn't allow more than we can bear. Which is also good to keep in mind about both ourselves and other people. God will always provide a 'way' for us, and we are accountable for whether we turn to Him and take that way, or whether we abandon the effort and pretend to think we have an excuse. The devil would like to divide us from Christ by provoking misled outrage on behalf of some vague group of people he'll claim 'God isn't giving a chance'. But there's no such thing as that. God gives everyone a true opportunity: He WANTS us all to be reconciled to Him. It doesn't take 'work' on our part, just a choice of the will to accept God's free offer to be united with Him. And the truth is just that intrinsic to that choice is that we _also_ have the choice of the will to NOT be united with Him. The choice isn't real if we can't 'really' choose either. So to enable the good choice, God must allow the bad choice. And we cannot be so arrogant as to claim that no human ever wilfully chooses to make the bad choice (not just a 'misinformed' choice: a bad choice). We certainly know many angels (MUCH more informed than most humans are) made that bad choice, freely.
@@tryforthesky2224 I appreciate the long response. I feel like you are just preaching the party line. That whole house of cards falls apart at believing in the existence of Adam and Eve. You believe in a literal Adam and Eve? An actual first couple living in an actual garden...when exactly? The evidence points against it. Should I just shut down my brain? Is god going to punish me for using my powers of reason? I fully expect god to reward my critical thinking. That's what I think Catholics should do. Use their intellects and explore these topics. Like Teilhard de Chardin did. Try to step OUTSIDE the faith and see if any of the objections have merit. I have read CS Lewis. Not a fan. I find him to be incredibly pompous. His Lunatic, Liar, Lord argument is beyond simplistic.
@@tryforthesky2224 One more thing...if we are to believe that Jesus has been represented fairly in the NT - and there is a fair amount of debate about the nature of the real Jesus - he was a rabble-rouser who was anti-authority, anti-hypocrite. I would think Jesus would lovingly entertain one of his children raising trouble with the Church hierarchy. I think it would make him smile. God has a sense of humor, you know.
@@TheRealShrike Hi BTS, yes, it sounds like you have a lot to work through. Indeed, when I was a child, I disbelieved in Adam and Eve being literal individuals. It is only after reviewing the evidence, as an adult, that I came to understand that this it is intellectually reasonable to believe that Adam and Eve were literal individuals. Definitely don't shut down your brain! Keep seeking truth: God (in Catholicism) promotes the fulness of all Truth. God Himself is the Author of Truth. I highly suggest you start reviewing content (either written or video format) from Catholic Answers! They have a RUclips channel here, or you can go to Catholic(dot)com and use the in-site search bar to browse by topic. You might want to start with investigating the legitimacy of believing that Adam and Eve were historical individuals?
I’ll back Matt’s commercial for Hallow. It’s the only app I’m willing to pay for. You can also get a free version but the full version is worth every cent!
Thank you so much Matt Fradd for this show and this interview. I discovered both you and Fr. Mike on RUclips when I gave up Facebook for lent. And I have been ministered to and learned so much from both of you. To see you two in the same place was heartwarming. I want to share that the Holy Spirit spoke very tenderly and very clearly to me as listened to this interview. It was at the point where you talked about renouncing accusations and announcing the truth about yourself and that you are not a fraud and do have gifts to share. So beautiful. There are things going on with me both personally and professionally that are very, very similar to what you shared. As I said the Lord spoke to me very lovingly and encouraged my heart when I heard your words. Thank you again for being His instrument! Please keep doing what you do!
Thank you for your videos! Especially sharing all what matters for growth development and formation and transformation of the spiritual, mental, physical and social life. As a single mom, it helps a whole lot to share these info with my two sons and youth/ just anyone whom I encounter. God bless you and all of us working to build the kingdom of God here on earth!
Guys, watching this today, 2012 turning point? It is also they year I converted. Two amazing guys, thank you for your courage and evangelization. God Bless You guys, in my prayers
Great conversation! I listened to it in its entirety. It was easy to follow and pleasant to listen to. I love that there was no derogatory commentary, judgement or scrutiny!😊 Father Schmitz is very gifted at explaining things in an interesting manner. Thank you!
Seconded! I know almost nothing about james Martin's stance, but the critique presented here boils down to "Fr. Martin is uneducated". We can see for ourself if that is true if Matt interviews him, and we can be better armored against falsehoods if we can see the coversation play itself out
Matt, am new subscriber to your show, and it this interview with Fr. Mike’s that signed me up. My husband took on the challenge of Fr. Mike’s Bible in a Year series and really committed - I am impressed and so happy. Matt, you did put Fr. Mike on the spot a few times but Fr. Mike was gracious enough and responded to your delicate questions about his brother priest and our current issues with our church with exactly what I expected - integrity and love. Felt your conversation was raw and honest. Thank you l!
Sooo interesting! "exceptionism"! I'd never heard this psych phenomenon described before, but it makes me think of when I was experiencing depression and anxiety as a young girl, and I truly thought that no one else experienced it, because I'd only heard it referred to as an "other" thing. When I finally told my best friend via a letter because I couldn't even speak it, I really thought it was something totally exceptional and the biggest thing I could possibly admit to someone. Now, of course, friends and I refer casually to the things we've all worked through before with therapists, etc. fulling understanding that it's a common experience to have. I love the way you both talk about it. It would have been so healing to hear "Alright. You think you're special? I bet 50% of people in the room experience that or have before!" Amen!!
Wow! What a wonderful, engaging & informative 3 hours that was! I loved hearing how his very first exposure to the Divine Liturgy called so strongly to Fr. Michael's heart. It was the same for us. We went once & never left... nearly 14 years ago now. Looking froward to seeing you both at Sr. Natalia's Life Profession in May! If you've never experienced one, Matt, you are in for a real treat... it is such a beautiful & powerfully moving ceremony! Peace!
Thank you for sharing that you now enjoy making a meal for yourself and eating it alone, in silence. My work also requires me to be with people and when I am with them I am really with them: focusing on what they are saying and helping them figure out a way to manage their challenges so alone time, with a meal I prepared myself is lovely.
I just unsubscribed after recent interviews with Michale Voris and Timothy Gordon, but I had to poke my head back in to watch the Fr. Michael Schmitz interview. He’s awesome! Inspired me to commit to intermittent fasting!
This conversation is just such a pleasure to watch. I'm watching it on my TV but I think I'll have to watch future shows on my laptop because I constantly pause, jump up and down on my sofa, and want to comment 'Yes! Totally! Right?' I also feel like hugging the two of you wonderful men who restore my faith in men in general. I loved the theme of 'us' vs 'us and them'. It is so true, and in this divided world we need this more than ever. We all have a cross, we are all in this together... I just adore how father Mike pauses himself, and then his thoughtful passionate words tumble out. A truly kind and compassionate soul. Matt, thank you for your faith and your work and these interviews. Having access to this in my life means so much. Patreon is my next stop!
I love the in-depth conversations. It’s refreshing to be able to sink deeply into several topics. It takes me a few sessions to get through one, but I look forward to my “Matt Fradd deep dive” time. Your guests are so wise; their knowledge is a gift. Thank you for making this space and time.
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3 hours and 8 minutes ... that's how long this interview is. You ready? Thanks for being here! Please help us spread the word by sharing on social media!
Hey Matt, why did you stop making videos for Ascension presents? It kind of stopped abruptly and without an explanation (unless I missed it).
Seethi C wanted to do my
own thing
@@pintswithaquinas Glad to hear it was a decision on your end! Wasn't sure if there was a falling out or something.
@@pintswithaquinas If I may ask another question, how come PWA episodes aren't being uploaded to RUclips anymore? I know they didn't get many views, but it was the best way to share specific episodes with non-Catholic friends.
Seethi C I wanted this channel to be just for videos and not litter it with podcasts also. I see your point about sharing it with friends ... hmm. This could help: pintswithaquinas.libsyn.com
What a great conversation. Father Mike is precisely the kind of priest the Catholic Church needs more of.
Father Mike revealed himself as a genuinely good dude. His just criticism of father Martin was the nicest criticism I've ever seen.
At what minute?
@@ignoflouk2307 every minute
A Catholic Priest is not a 'dude'. A word 'of' The World. Catholics are meant to live 'in' The World & not be 'of' The World. JESUS' WORDS.
@@josephinebcmpatrick9207 lol nice stretch
Part of that is because he did not criticize Fr. Martin directly or personally. He discussed why certain theologies being taught may be wrong. He did it from a place of love.
This conversation is a long as Avengers: End Game and I'm okay with that.
Back in my days, Lord of the Rings was the typical example for a long movie.
@@palmina77italiana Who cares about that movie?
Btw, they said the same about Episode III back in the day, so much was cut that it wasn't much longer than the average SW movie.
@@wilhufftarkin8543 Titanic was my era's long movie
@@palmina77italiana They're included in the novelization and that's one reason why it's better than the movies. The scenes were very important for the plot and it's a shame they deleted them. They should have deleted some Utapau and Kashyyyk scenes instead, because they didn't really advance the plot.
BTW this is about catholic faith not meme comments 😉
Thank you so much Matt! You brought me to tears because I believed the lie that I have nothing to offer on my RUclips Channel. I could relate so much!!! Thank you I was feeling so alone in the same lie asking God why have you asked me to do this ministry. What you said spoke to my heart and I need to remember that prayer you prayed!. Thank you and God bless you
A Catholic Mom's Life oh you’re beautiful, thanks for being vulnerable. In a world where everyone wants likes and shares, let’s speak the truth even when it’s NOT controversial :) bless you, sister. The Father will use both you and me, blunt instruments though we are.
I always watch your videos Catholic Mom, and they are really helpful 🙌🏼💗 Keep up the good work of God!
Thank you for all the encouragement💕
Girl! Your channel has helped me out soooo much! I need to have good, solid Catholic SAHM's that I can go to on RUclips. You've led me to other great mama's. Please don't stop doing your channel!
I love your channel dearly ❤ I'm still a college girl. But you taught me about NFP and how contraception isn't really an option. Thank you 💕
"Invite the Lord into your shame", is the pearl of wisdom I take with myself from this all-too-short 3-hours chat with Father Mike to my prayers. Thank you.
It’s so needed. Always exam your sin with God’s mercy.
Please pray that my kids will come back to the faith 🙏🏼
Father Schmitz's brain must have like 11-gears. He is like a young race-car driver figuring out the most efficient shifting. You can see in his many pauses, the gears still spinning, then the thought comes, and he shifts from first to seventh gear. He's a Ferrari. Every gear has an impressive sound when it digs in. Those students in Minnesota are so lucky to have him as "Dad". Great show. I stayed up too late trying to watch to the end.
Perhaps you might call him Campagnolo! Lol take care god bless
Congrat😊s. This is the most inventive assessment I've heard of how Fr. Mike's brain works and how a spectator can just about see him shifting gears from first to seventh gear.🤔
I'm just a little concerned, Matt
is just a shade too anxious to place his own ego on the same shelf as Father Mike's IQ.🤔
we need more priests like Fr Mike Schmitz and Fr Goring.
These men bring me hope for the future of the church and it's teachings
Far right priests are going to destroy not build. Fr. Martin builds , Fr Schmitz destroys.
@@harpervalleypeeteeay9708 lol. You think they are far right? You gotta get out more.
@@harpervalleypeeteeay9708, what exactly do you think he builds?
@Nathaniel Jurewicz, since Fr. Mike teaches Theology of the Body, I think both him and Fr. Martin are fakes.
We pray for mores priests like them.
I love Fr. Mike so much! We need to pray for him because he is such a gift to the Church.
Let us pray for more young vocations, so we can have more young priests like Fr. Mike for all parts of the world, including our small island nations.
Fr. Mike is a great gift to the church, so are many priests. Let us pray for more priests.
What a great interview. Father Mike is full of compassion and humbleness concerning the shame that people carry around. 🙏
I appreciate priests who wear their priest collar.
Laura Agcaoili if only more wore a cassock!
Some don't?
Amen ❤🙏🙏🙏
The Archbishop here doesn’t like them to wear their collars,not good
@@mariemiller8740 oh really? Why is that? And where is here? I'm in shock, I've never heard of that before.
Fr. Mike. You have been instrumental in my return to the Church after 45 years.thank you. God Bless you, I'm praying for you.
Fr Mike made me fall in love with God. Such an inspiring personality. Thank you for this interview!
Thank you Fr. Mike, for showing us how beautiful it is to follow God into the vocation He made for you and thank you, Matt, for such a respectful, beneficial, and Catholic interview. God is Great!
Three epic Matt Fradd shows in a row! Kreeft, Gordon, and Fr. Schmitz!
Hallow has cleared the path in healing my life ✝️ the Hallow team are true gifts from God 🙏
8:32 Nothing is neutral to the soul. Wow. So good!!!
I know many people want a shorter or edited interview, however I love the length, your guests have so much to share, I honestly don't know what you could cut since there is information that could help everyone. If somebody wants a specific topic or shorter videos they can check ascension present, Fr Mike Schmitz podcasts or other short catholic video. My wife and I love your channel and the interviews because they are different and we get to learn so much. I honestly wouldn't like to shorten the interviews because this is what makes your interviews different and in my opinion better. Your interviews are authentic, different and truthful.
In Christ
I agree. As much as I ENJOY watching this video with Matt and Fr. Schmidt but I think it’s a bit long. Although the content is great but people may want to watch other videos too and/or they may have other things to do but they also enjoy watching these videos. God bless them both. 😇
I totally agree! I watched this interview over the course of 4 days, so it’s not like you have to sit down for 3hrs straight if you don’t want to.
I approached my campus pastor, Sunday, with a "This is weird, but I need to say it."
He was most gracious. I was very grateful.
This is the best kind of podcast: two friends whose conversation ranges from the shallowest to the deepest of things and ideas
Great conversation! I’m getting tired of the militance of some Catholic RUclipsrs. I’ve unsubscribed from a couple. While I understand the anger within our church, more voices like Fr Schmitz’s are refreshing.
Carolyn Fiore you might like tumblar house - they are glad men!
I absolutely agree. I was getting more and more angry and negative watching some of the very militant individuals who have a public apostolate. We 100% need more thoughtful, straight forward yet kind voices like Fr. Mike's!
My first thought was "let him speak" but then I realized how intelligent and well versed you are. So I really enjoyed this video because instead of a prequestioned interview, this was a genuine conversation between two really wise men.
Father Schmitz is so encouraging I love being Catholic.
Stumbled across this in October of 2023. What a gift!
I've really loved this conversation. It was just real, truthful and meaningful as well. Father Mike Schmitz is just an amazing priest. I really wish I met him in person one day. Thank you very much Matt Fradd for having amazing people on the show. God bless you!
Matt, I’m only coming across this episode many “Pints” later. You’ve come a long way since this episode on trying not to interrupt the guest. As you’d say “Praise the Lord!” The ADHD Matt deserves praise because it’s clearly a struggle. Way to go, Matt! Thank you for the work ❤️
I was in my 70’s before I realized that she had probably been deeply wounded during her childhood. That explained why she was a cold person. It took me years to forgive her. Once I did that, I experienced the Peace that passes all understanding.
watching this 4 years late, but just before Ash Wednesday, has helped me decide how I am fasting as part of my Lenten commitments :)).
Matt, I can so relate to feeling like a fraud. I spent nearly 40 years during my career waiting for someone to discover I am a fraud, that I don't know what I'm doing at work. I spent all those years in fear for nothing. Near the end my career I was very fortunate to have a new boss was not shy about expressing how good I truly was at my job. It was embarrassing when he said it to others. That is something I had never had before in my career. My boss being so honest with me made me realize that the actual fraudulent thing was to not accept how good I truly was at my work. Once I accepted with humility that God gave me the grace of being good at my job, I was freed from this feeling of being a fraud. So I totally get your self-doubt!
This is the third time I’ve listened to this interview. Great interview. Thank you.
The interview only gets better and better as it goes along. These are the conversations that need to be happening in our Church.
" Speak to me, oh Lord. Your servant is listening. " Dangerous prayer, but so very important.
Father Mike, thank you for bringing Matt back to Christ and his dialogue
What a wonderful session with Fr Mike-you have articulated my greatest fear. I didn't know it was the source of my anxiety. I have been a catechist for 20 years and I was always afraid the children, adults or parish priest would find me to be a fraud. "Like I have anything to offer here". I keep trying to be smart enough, or holy enough...thinking I am a fraud. That prayer that Matt said hit me right between the eyes. It is a lie-I am capable of bringing something to the table. Because God has sent me to the table-called me to this ministry. God has kept the door open for me to this ministry. Thank you so much for this insightful conversation. May God continue to bless you and your family.
I am humbled by Fr. Mike, and want to have meaningful conversations such as these. Excellent work!
Let us pray for more priests!
Whaaaat! My two favorite catholic speakers talking for 3 hours... YES PLEASE!
This was awesome, guys! You both inspire me. :)
p.s. Fr. Mike an introvert? No way!
The filial energy in that room... What a good video. Thanks Matt and Father Mike! As a spiritual child it warms the heart to see two great examples of what it means to be mature in the faith.
As a dancer for more than 26 years, the only person I was measuring my progress with was myself because my body is not exactly the ideal dancer's body so to measure myself against someone else was not helpful. I am glad to have had that kind of attitude presented to me by my teacher. He helped me be the best dancer I could be then. And can be again. :-) Against my own previous level. :-)
Wonderful
Interview.
Matt, I mean this with love & respect, but there were moments in which I feel like you cut off Fr. Mike when he was mid-thought/sentence. I understand you were probably very excited to have him on (I would be too). But I think that if you work on letting the guests finish their thoughts, it would really elevate the quality of your show. Not to say that it isn’t good quality, but I see so much potential in you still. I probably noticed this because this is something **I** struggle with.
Nonetheless, I really enjoy your show. In fact, you’ve been a big resource for me in my recent conversion. I came back to the Catholic faith in October of 2019, and I will be getting confirmed at the end of March in 2020. Keep up the great work!
Update (March 2020): my confirmation has been pushed back because of the pandemic. However, I‘ve chosen St. Thomas Aquinas as my confirmation saint! 😎
Please let Father finish his point or don’t invite him on your show God Bless you father Mike
🙏🙏🙏🙏from United Kingdom
To be fair, it was more of a conversation; less an interview. Good stuff.
It's more a conversation than a proper interview.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. (And yes, I also struggle not to do this.) And even if it is more a conversation than an interview - he's your guest. Let him finish his sentences.
Wow! What an incredible interview/show!!! I regret that I could only give one thumb up. I'd like to give it 10! As a father of 3 young children it was very spiritually edifying! Matt I'm always so impressed with how you address and approach issues within the Church such as wayward clergy and the current spirit. I tend to be more of the Voris and Dr. Marshall type, but in hearing your perspective it's great to take in another viewpoint that is perhaps more balanced. Initially I thought your viewpoint was to downplay the issues within the Church, but I now understand after this show that it is not the case!
Fr. Schmitz is such an amazing blessing to the Church. Thank God for him! Matt thank you for all you do for souls and the Church! I will be definitely be watching your channel more closely going forward.
I love Hallow. Doing the advent series ❤
Father, what about starting an exercise app or channel that is focused on exercise, fitness, and prayer 😊! If it can be created to support the efforts of people of different levels of exercise that would be even cooler. It could be great to have guest trainer/teachers and to incorporate prayer to it since youre pretty busy.
Would be so cool 😎
I am glad that you got this interview with Fr. Mike. We need to pray for our priests in this touch time. Thank you for sharing this. Good job, Matt!
1 hour 30mins in... so true. I was reflecting on this today and I feel like the chaos inside the Catholic Church is having a huge effect on my faith personally... at times it feels like we are orphans.
ela, I try 'thinking' as well as having "faith" and I try to keep their inseparability and qualitative equality as, in uncertainty, belief. Mary's cousin, Elizabeth, is reported at RSV Luke 1:45 as: "Blessed is she who believed ... ". Best, Oliver Clark, age 75, anglo-catholic accredited catechist of roman catholic religion in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Brisbane Australia.
When I aspired for the monastic life when I was in my late twenties (before I studied medicine) the Liturgy of the Hours was the main attraction. Happily, the Lord knew this and, after I followed my vocation into medicine, He made it available to me through the parish I serve as a Proclaimer. His Psalms always seemed to be in sync with my daily rhythms, by His Grace, and even during spiritual dryness He speaks in the psalms and canticles to keep me going through the challenges of the day. :-)
God bless you both. Matt realize the platform you have my friend. Keep speaking the truth. God wants to make you a saint. I can see you have a kind heart which is rare is this world don't ever lose that.
Matt, as I watch your interviews and see more and more how the sincerity of your faith plays out in your life, in your family, and in your community, I am so deeply touched. It creates a whole new realm of possibilities for my own life. And how very endearing that you speak candidly about your struggles with imposter syndrome. You are indeed the real deal. Thank you.
I love the talk about fasting. I do extended intermittent fasting (a much more aggressive form of the intermittent fasting). I began it for weight loss and the health benefits. My routine (doctor approved because it is very aggressive) is a 1-2 day fast drinking only water or coffee, then eat a good clean meal, followed by a 3 day fast and a meal, 4 day fast and meal, then 5 day fast and a meal. If I still feel fine I do another 5 day fast, then one meal a day (OMAD) for a few weeks. Then I start again from the beginning. I lost 30 lbs the first month, 50 lbs in 3 months. Currently I have lost over 100 lbs and have 130 more to get to my goal weight of 150 lbs.
That's impressive, I hope you have continued to meet your goal.
@@Peony25001 thank you, I have a long way to go still. When my brother passed I fell into the snare of emotional eating; it really pushed my progress back quite a bit. But I am back on the wagon, so to speak.
Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for me.
OHM & OHF, pray for me.
St. Elizabeth of the Trinity, pray for me.
St. Jude, pray for me.
🙏🏼✝️🤎
This is the quality content that keeps the world turning ✊🏼✊🏼
“Our following the Lord influences how we view….” Yes! God’s influence changes our view of ourselves and others. We become less bitter, more kind, more generous…we become neighbors.
I started to watch this video and they're talking about EXODUS 90.
Today at work 2 men came to eat at the restaurant where I work at and sit at the counter
In Lakeview Chicago
They did a prayer before eating.
Their shirts Said; Live Different
Asked about it. And sure indeed
They were from EXODUS .
🔥✝️
Wow, that was terrific. I am a Lutheran woman who by watching other faith based videos discovered Father Mike. One can certainly be drawn to him at first by his personality, charm and current faith topics, but this interview helped me see that there is more to Father Mike than that. I appreciate the incite to him and a better understanding of the Catholic Faith.
I believe that in all families, there are both good and bad individuals. My Catholic faith is not defined by any particular priest but by my commitment to following Jesus and I am his follower.
Fr. Mike is truly led by the Holy Spirit 😇 God Bless you Fr. Mike ✝️✝️✝️
when everywhere is chaos.. you guys make a difference... a HUGE difference.... and I thank you!
James Martin should just join the Anglican Church and stop trying to impose his personal views on us.
Yeah, he seems to stir up issues according to a personal agenda...
Anglican? He should join the "church" of satan. Sodomy is acceptable there.
We need to offer our prayers, daily rosary, fasts and ask God to return our priests and Catholics to the One True Church, the Catholic Faith.
That was a great show. Enjoyed hearing the wonderful conversation and advice from you both. Also great was what Father Mike Schmitz's mom said to him, "Don't forget who the star is." Thank, you and God bless.
What a beautiful and real conversation 🙏🏼🥰 thank you so much for everything you do Matt and Fr Mike! God bless 😊
Love Fr. Mike! Love that he wears his collar
collar means absolutely nothing. Cassock means it all.
I can totally relate to Fr. Mike at the beginning here. I started running for the first time in years and fasting most days of the week. It has been very interesting and fulfilling to deny myself and make myself uncomfortable sometimes. I think it has brought me closer with Christ for sure! not to mention the health benefits of course. I believe it was the Holy Spirit that convinced me to start this out of no where and I am so grateful for where it has brought me!
I am really enjoying this conversation. Fr. Mike is real.
Father Mike, thanks for being there in Christ for Matt. It’s one technique he needs to improve in Christ.🙏🏽
Father Mike God bless you we need priest like you.
I love you priests, and you give me joy wherever I see you. When there is no sign by the way you choose to dress I think joy is been removed. It is humble and it has power like the purest light.
I was traveling with a heavy, guilty heart, and it gave me a surge of hope when I saw a priest in an airport. I asked him to pray with me and he asked if I wanted to make my confession. It was a beautifully healing experience that never would have happened if he hadn't been in his black clothes and Roman collar. I was and am so very grateful for our priests.
Question worth pondering is if worrying about the temporal divisions of people calling out others for their bad theology and leadership is as warranted as worrying about the eternal divisions potentially caused by leaders' bad theology and morals. Thanks for the show, Pints with Aquinas and for having Fr Schmitz on, you're good men.
What a great interview. Yes it was long but I was sewing as I was listening to it and the time few by and I got so much out of it. I have a notebook by my sewing machine that I write down stuff I want to remember about what I am making but now it is also a notebook with some thoughtful snippets of knowledge from this interview. Thank you so much.
the Faithful Catholic is so "starved" for a spiritual Father these days.
I have to say I downloaded Hallow and wow! I feel it’s a must. No way you can ever say your too busy… in the car or while you fall asleep. It’s awesome ❤
Matt,
1) Never doubt your value to the online Catholic world. You’re a gift to the Church and to the world.
2) Please book Sr. Miriam!!!
I have borderline personality disorder and use dbt all the time, it was really cool to hear Fr. Mike mention DBT :) helpful for everyone! We all go through tough times and situations in life. The negative self talk is real!
You gentlemen are talking about fitness and doing less than others. I am soon going into a wheelchair because I am such a fall risk but if a neurodegenerative disease which will end my life, hopefully not for a few years. The physical activities I enjoyed are over BUT now I have something difficult to offer back to God. And I believe I have become, and continue to become, a more empathetic person.
BOOM!!! "Don't wait until Opening Day".
Thank you Matt & Fr Mike. Always learning and growing. God Bless.
You're the Joe Rogan of Catholic talk shows. Loved it! and you're Aussie to boot!!
Loved the discussion on agreements! I totally had a moment crying on my porch today hearing the lies... thank you for ministering to me! 🙏🏼💗
I did develop at a very young age the habit of praying for salvation of souls etc, seeing my mother doing it. The habit of it stays with me till today. I have always been praying that all be saved.
Mary Pinakat that is a holy thing - and you should never stop it.
@@jackharwood3868
Thank you.
Stay blessed.
Mary Pinakat the salvation of souls for the love and sake of God is one of if not the highest form of love, especially when it is at the cost of your own self
@@jackharwood3868
Yeah, that's what Jesus did and set an example for all to follow, even though our own prayers and sacrifices gain any power to save in and through Jesus's sacrifice of himself.
For me the greatest value I find in praying for ALL people to be saved is that it moves me to look with compassion towards every sinner however bad. It prompts me to leave the judgement for God and him alone. I believe that as a Christian I owe it to Jesus to hold such a stand.
I praise God for both of you! He is working through you both to touch the lives of so many people. Thank you for allowing Him to work through you and saying yes to His Will!
I was convinced, to care for the dying.. because, spending time with my parents, and grandparents.. watching the doctors and nurses, caring for them.. and, in zero disrespect, I felt.. that I could do that better, and now.. I am so very glad I let a "superficial" reason, tip the choice..
So many AMAZING things to comment on in this interview. One comment I decided to make while still watching -- about Bishop Robert Barron.
1.) I am an adult convert to Catholicism. Once I turned to 'internet research' on the religion, Bishop Barron was one of my key introductions to the faith.
2.) One of my key struggles from childhood up was disbelief in / resistance to the idea of an eternal hell.
3.) Bishop (then Father) Barron gave me PERMISSION to keep that window open in my mind, which resolved that problem for me.
4.) Now more fully grown (well, still growing) in the Catholic faith, I can see and appreciate the arguments that *not* all men WILL be saved (and I even think there's something supremely loving about this, in God's respect for our free will, and also in the way that acknowledging this possibility helps us sufficiently come to grips with the true risk we ourselves face, to take the crucial actions which are necessary for our ultimate good, and that of others)... and at the same time I still think I _needed that window open at the beginning, to let myself relax and keep moving forward._ Or if I didn't objectively 'need' it, it certainly seems as if I needed it.
For this reason, I will always be thankful to Bishop Barron, and I will not harangue the man on the topic. I believe he is performing a key 'porter' role, manning a gate through which (God willing) converts like myself are granted entrance to the eternal life of Christ. And once inside, I believe there are _other_ faithful children of God, performing _other_ roles (including enriching us, as we grow, with a deeper dive into the theology and lived practice of Christ's Church)... but as Matt said earlier in this video: different members of the family can be moving in different ways that are nonetheless valid, and performing an important role, even if we don't personally understand it because it's not the role we need someone to play for us right now.
PS: IMPORTANT! I *don't* think you gentlemen made a mistake in talking about this, though. Again, as Matt said (and I believe the same): there are roles that different people are playing right now that are important, even if I'm not playing the exact same one. And I actually value you discussing this in a way that didn't necessarily let the Bishop's articulation of the idea off the hook. And then you deal with the Fr. Martin thing really well, too. Kudos, you two.
I posted this on Brian Holdsworth's page the other day regarding hell, but it works here too:
BTS
4 days ago (edited)
@Brian Holdsworth Brian what I am saying is that I don't think there is anything a human can do that deserves eternal hellfire. ETERNAL. Trillions of years, then square that number. And if it is outside of time, then it's even worse than that. And does a casual "mortal" sinner (let's say, someone guilty of occasional, or even regular, lust) get the same punishment as a serial killer?
Ultimately your approach sounds like binary thinking to me. Those are the only choices? A or B? What if a person is holy some of the time and selfish some of the time? What percentage breakdown gets one into heaven? What if a person lives a faithful life and then falters at the end, say in the last year? If it is truly a tally that occurs, do you realize that the line separating two basically good people sends one to hell and one to heaven because of possibly one further sin? Is god a cosmic bean counter? Sheesh, I hope not.
Humans ARE selfish, all the time, all of us! We fight against it daily, of course. All of us. It is NOT a winnable battle in the long run. But we can do our best some of the time. Who does his best ALL the time? No one.
I encourage to you read up on the history of the development of "hell" and you'll see that Jesus' concept of hell is not the same thing as the fiery abode of the devil. Heck, even the devil in the OT is not the same as the devil in the NT. Open your mind. Start reading both/many sides of the debate. That's what I do. I read the BEST of both sides to see what folks are saying. Try, for example, Sean Carrol's mindscape podcast episode about how hell was essentially "created":
www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2019/05/27/episode-48-marq-de-villiers-on-hell-and-damnation/
As a catholic of some flavor (not sure where I am right now), I find hell really is an ineffectual concept. One cannot be morally good with constant threat of damnation hanging over one's shoulder, because the good acts are compelled, rather than done freely. I would argue a good deed done by a non-believer counts for more than a deed done under threat of hell. A believer can never have a pure motive if hell is in the equation. The good deed is not done freely.
@@TheRealShrike Lots to respond to there, and I have to run to work. But short answers for now, to maybe prompt you to continue following your own advice ("Open your mind... read up..."):
I'm an adult convert to Catholicism who objected to 'hell' theology since young childhood, so I don't have any more reading on it to do. I reckon I'm substantially familiar with the range of positions, since I used to hold them. For me, 'opening my mind' ultimately has meant _coming to believe in hell._
Suggested resources: re: your last paragraph, CS Lewis refutes the point you raised (which is a reasonable enough question many of us explore as we develop our theological understanding) in an essay you can find by googling "CS Lewis mercenary desires".
Other stuff, short answer: no, God is not a bean counter. Yes, in the end it is binary, because "Reconciled with God" and "Not-reconciled with God" really are the only two options in the end; nothing falls outside of those two categories. Anything not in one is, by definition, in the other. No, no number of mere 'good deeds' can get someone into heaven (we're all fallen since Adam and Eve): it is only accepting the free gift of Christ who reconciled us to Himself, which can reconcile us to the Heaven which our first parents lost. And it's accepting that free gift, _and persevering to the end_ (to the personal death of the individual) in that state of acceptance of the reconciliation God offers us, which is 'salvation'. The state we're in when we enter eternity, is the state we'll remain in for eternity. All that 'time' stuff in between is just for working out that state we'll be in at the very moment of death, and yes we can waffle back and forth on it for years (and our actions during those years CAN have consequences in eternity on our _degree_ of glory: we can make ourselves either greater saints, or worse lost souls), but it is our state at the crossover into death that decides the binary of Reconciled/Unreconciled. Now, as a requisite _part_ of being reconciled to Christ, we are called to participate in good works, joined to God's merciful and outpouring love, during the years available to us. Fruitful ground for longer conversation in here.
Note: Catholics are permitted to believe that Christ can reconcile people to himself through ways unknown to us, if through no fault of their own they are not given the opportunity to be joined to Christ's visible body (the Church) on earth. So, humans living before Christ; humans living after Christ but in remote areas where Christ is not preached; people whose only experience of Christians is profound abuse (e.g. a child raped by the adult 'Christians' in his or her life, who goes on to never meet the actual Christ through actual Christians). But it's not bean counting. God knows the souls and character of each human person He's creating, and He gives them the free will (whether during the bulk of their life, or in the last split-second before death in a personal, direct revelation: it is not for us to know the details of the way God reveals Himself to each individual, so there's legitimate room for speculation within existing theological bounds, here), to _choose_ whether to be reconciled to Him or not. And then God respects our choice.
Case in point, the angels. Some of them chose unity with God, and some of them chose disunity with God. And He respects their choice and allows them to 'be', forever, who they've chosen to be. Maybe one day God will create a race of creatures who ARE destined for eternal changeability, back and forth, etc, never eternally in hell or heaven, but constantly reincarnated or bouncing between states as they make their choices -- but He has specifically revealed to us that this is neither the destiny of angelic beings nor of human beings. We are both a type of created being whose will becomes 'fixed' after free will choices are made (for the angels, this is believed to have taken place virtually immediately after their creation: for humans, we typically have a lifetime to work through our choice before we make it, and can waffle for a while -- but eventually are fixed, and that point is called 'death').
The question is not: "Can I work myself into a lather of distress and outrage over some imaginary individual beyond myself, who I imagine may _not_ receive all the inputs they need to make an informed decision for/against unity with God?" It is for us to ask ourselves, and only ourselves, "Has God given ME the inputs necessary to make an informed decision for/against unity with God? Does my own conscience, properly formed, convict me against murder, lust, hatred of my brother, etc? Do I have to admit that deep down, I _do_ know the difference, from moment to moment, between a choice that is closer to goodness and a choice that is further from goodness? And that I am accountable for doing my genuine _best_ to move closer to what I sincerely believe is goodness?" God does know the pressures upon us, and also promised (and He cannot lie) that He doesn't allow more than we can bear. Which is also good to keep in mind about both ourselves and other people. God will always provide a 'way' for us, and we are accountable for whether we turn to Him and take that way, or whether we abandon the effort and pretend to think we have an excuse.
The devil would like to divide us from Christ by provoking misled outrage on behalf of some vague group of people he'll claim 'God isn't giving a chance'. But there's no such thing as that. God gives everyone a true opportunity: He WANTS us all to be reconciled to Him. It doesn't take 'work' on our part, just a choice of the will to accept God's free offer to be united with Him. And the truth is just that intrinsic to that choice is that we _also_ have the choice of the will to NOT be united with Him. The choice isn't real if we can't 'really' choose either. So to enable the good choice, God must allow the bad choice. And we cannot be so arrogant as to claim that no human ever wilfully chooses to make the bad choice (not just a 'misinformed' choice: a bad choice). We certainly know many angels (MUCH more informed than most humans are) made that bad choice, freely.
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I appreciate the long response. I feel like you are just preaching the party line.
That whole house of cards falls apart at believing in the existence of Adam and Eve. You believe in a literal Adam and Eve? An actual first couple living in an actual garden...when exactly? The evidence points against it. Should I just shut down my brain? Is god going to punish me for using my powers of reason? I fully expect god to reward my critical thinking.
That's what I think Catholics should do. Use their intellects and explore these topics. Like Teilhard de Chardin did. Try to step OUTSIDE the faith and see if any of the objections have merit.
I have read CS Lewis. Not a fan. I find him to be incredibly pompous. His Lunatic, Liar, Lord argument is beyond simplistic.
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One more thing...if we are to believe that Jesus has been represented fairly in the NT - and there is a fair amount of debate about the nature of the real Jesus - he was a rabble-rouser who was anti-authority, anti-hypocrite. I would think Jesus would lovingly entertain one of his children raising trouble with the Church hierarchy. I think it would make him smile. God has a sense of humor, you know.
@@TheRealShrike Hi BTS, yes, it sounds like you have a lot to work through. Indeed, when I was a child, I disbelieved in Adam and Eve being literal individuals. It is only after reviewing the evidence, as an adult, that I came to understand that this it is intellectually reasonable to believe that Adam and Eve were literal individuals.
Definitely don't shut down your brain! Keep seeking truth: God (in Catholicism) promotes the fulness of all Truth. God Himself is the Author of Truth.
I highly suggest you start reviewing content (either written or video format) from Catholic Answers! They have a RUclips channel here, or you can go to Catholic(dot)com and use the in-site search bar to browse by topic. You might want to start with investigating the legitimacy of believing that Adam and Eve were historical individuals?
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Thank you so much Matt Fradd for this show and this interview. I discovered both you and Fr. Mike on RUclips when I gave up Facebook for lent. And I have been ministered to and learned so much from both of you. To see you two in the same place was heartwarming. I want to share that the Holy Spirit spoke very tenderly and very clearly to me as listened to this interview. It was at the point where you talked about renouncing accusations and announcing the truth about yourself and that you are not a fraud and do have gifts to share. So beautiful. There are things going on with me both personally and professionally that are very, very similar to what you shared. As I said the Lord spoke to me very lovingly and encouraged my heart when I heard your words. Thank you again for being His instrument! Please keep doing what you do!
Thank you for your videos! Especially sharing all what matters for growth development and formation and transformation of the spiritual, mental, physical and social life. As a single mom, it helps a whole lot to share these info with my two sons and youth/ just anyone whom I encounter. God bless you and all of us working to build the kingdom of God here on earth!
This is gold guys! Thank you! I have watched just about 50 mins and I've had a smile on my face for 95% of the time. God bless and good night!
Guys, watching this today, 2012 turning point? It is also they year I converted. Two amazing guys, thank you for your courage and evangelization. God Bless You guys, in my prayers
Great conversation! I listened to it in its entirety. It was easy to follow and pleasant to listen to. I love that there was no derogatory commentary, judgement or scrutiny!😊 Father Schmitz is very gifted at explaining things in an interesting manner. Thank you!
I’d honestly love to see Matt Fradd have Fr. James Martin for a discussion.
Seconded! I know almost nothing about james Martin's stance, but the critique presented here boils down to "Fr. Martin is uneducated". We can see for ourself if that is true if Matt interviews him, and we can be better armored against falsehoods if we can see the coversation play itself out
Matt, am new subscriber to your show, and it this interview with Fr. Mike’s that signed me up. My husband took on the challenge of Fr. Mike’s Bible in a Year series and really committed - I am impressed and so happy. Matt, you did put Fr. Mike on the spot a few times but Fr. Mike was gracious enough and responded to your delicate questions about his brother priest and our current issues with our church with exactly what I expected - integrity and love. Felt your conversation was raw and honest. Thank you l!
When you can tell a priest "has it". Father Mike is a blessing.
Sooo interesting! "exceptionism"! I'd never heard this psych phenomenon described before, but it makes me think of when I was experiencing depression and anxiety as a young girl, and I truly thought that no one else experienced it, because I'd only heard it referred to as an "other" thing. When I finally told my best friend via a letter because I couldn't even speak it, I really thought it was something totally exceptional and the biggest thing I could possibly admit to someone. Now, of course, friends and I refer casually to the things we've all worked through before with therapists, etc. fulling understanding that it's a common experience to have. I love the way you both talk about it. It would have been so healing to hear "Alright. You think you're special? I bet 50% of people in the room experience that or have before!" Amen!!
Wow! What a wonderful, engaging & informative 3 hours that was! I loved hearing how his very first exposure to the Divine Liturgy called so strongly to Fr. Michael's heart. It was the same for us. We went once & never left... nearly 14 years ago now. Looking froward to seeing you both at Sr. Natalia's Life Profession in May! If you've never experienced one, Matt, you are in for a real treat... it is such a beautiful & powerfully moving ceremony! Peace!
Thank you for sharing that you now enjoy making a meal for yourself and eating it alone, in silence. My work also requires me to be with people and when I am with them I am really with them: focusing on what they are saying and helping them figure out a way to manage their challenges so alone time, with a meal I prepared myself is lovely.
4 yrs later. God bless both of you ✝️
I just unsubscribed after recent interviews with Michale Voris and Timothy Gordon, but I had to poke my head back in to watch the Fr. Michael Schmitz interview. He’s awesome! Inspired me to commit to intermittent fasting!
Jose Rodriguez thanks for poking your head back in!
I’m having to work all day a lot this week, but I’ve been watching this on breaks and during any free time I have.
Thank you for this! Much love💛
This conversation is just such a pleasure to watch. I'm watching it on my TV but I think I'll have to watch future shows on my laptop because I constantly pause, jump up and down on my sofa, and want to comment 'Yes! Totally! Right?' I also feel like hugging the two of you wonderful men who restore my faith in men in general. I loved the theme of 'us' vs 'us and them'. It is so true, and in this divided world we need this more than ever. We all have a cross, we are all in this together... I just adore how father Mike pauses himself, and then his thoughtful passionate words tumble out. A truly kind and compassionate soul. Matt, thank you for your faith and your work and these interviews. Having access to this in my life means so much. Patreon is my next stop!
It's so great to hear things you've concluded on your own be validated by someone who knows what he's talking about.
I love the in-depth conversations. It’s refreshing to be able to sink deeply into several topics. It takes me a few sessions to get through one, but I look forward to my “Matt Fradd deep dive” time. Your guests are so wise; their knowledge is a gift. Thank you for making this space and time.
Love you Matt Fradd! Thanks for hosting Fr. S. BRING ON FATHER MARTIN and interview him.
That did not seem like 3 hours that went by very quickly. And wow, was that fantastic? Two of my favorite people!!!!!